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data-mw-comment-end="h--2013-02-18T11:49:00.000Z"></span></span><div class="boilerplate metadata afd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color: #F3F9FF; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-18T11:49:00.000Z"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this page.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result was <b>speedy keep</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SK#1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SK">WP:SK#1</a> (nomination withdrawn). Per comments here, I'll tag the article with a suggestion to merge to <a href="/wiki/Uplift_Universe" title="Uplift Universe">Uplift Universe</a>. (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Non-administrators_closing_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Non-administrator closure.</a>) <small><a href="/wiki/User:Northamerica1000" title="User:Northamerica1000">Northamerica1000</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Northamerica1000" title="User talk:Northamerica1000">(talk)</a></sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-18T11:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-18T11:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-18T11:49:00.000Z"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Jophur" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jophur-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jophur-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Jophur" class="mw-redirect" title="Jophur">Jophur</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jophur-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Jophur"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><span id="Jophur"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Jophur" class="mw-redirect" title="Jophur"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z-Jophur"></span>Jophur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Jophur" title="Special:EditPage/Jophur">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:Jophur" title="Talk:Jophur">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Jophur" title="Special:PageHistory/Jophur">history</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a href="/wiki/Special:ProtectPage/Jophur" title="Special:ProtectPage/Jophur">protect</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletePage/Jophur" title="Special:DeletePage/Jophur">delete</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Jophur&limit=999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jophur&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Jophur">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=Jophur&project=en.wikipedia.org">views</a>)</span> – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2013_February_11#Jophur" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 February 11">View log</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur">Stats</a></span>)</dd> <dd>(<span class="plainlinks"><i>Find sources:</i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Jophur%22">Google</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Jophur%22+-wikipedia">books</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Jophur%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1">news</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Jophur%22">scholar</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22Jophur%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org">free images</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22Jophur%22">WP refs</a>) <b>·</b> <span title="Free English newspaper sources" style="border-bottom: 1px dotted;"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources">FENS</a></span> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22Jophur%22&acc=on&wc=on">JSTOR</a> <b>·</b> <span title="The Wikipedia Library" style="border-bottom: 1px dotted;"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22Jophur%22">TWL</a></span></span>)</dd></dl> <p>This topic about a fictional extraterrestrial race appears to fail <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a>. Searches in Google Books and News archive have only provided sources with passing mentions, rather than significant coverage. <small><span style="font-family:arial;"><a href="/wiki/User:Northamerica1000" title="User:Northamerica1000">Northamerica1000</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Northamerica1000" title="User talk:Northamerica1000">(talk)</a></sup></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z-Jophur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z-Jophur"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z-Jophur"></span> </p> <dl><dd><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LlamaAl-2013-02-11T18:12:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Note: This debate has been included in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Fictional_elements" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Fictional elements">list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:LlamaAl" title="User:LlamaAl">LlamaAl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LlamaAl" title="User talk:LlamaAl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-LlamaAl-2013-02-11T18:12:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LlamaAl-2013-02-11T18:12:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LlamaAl-2013-02-11T18:12:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chairboy-2013-02-11T21:23:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> - 8,000 matches for 'jophur brin' (to limit to on-subject matches) to Google search. If not notable, recommend converting to an appropriate redirect. - <a href="/wiki/User:Chairboy" title="User:Chairboy">C<small>HAIRBOY</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chairboy" title="User talk:Chairboy">☎</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Chairboy-2013-02-11T21:23:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chairboy-2013-02-11T21:23:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chairboy-2013-02-11T21:23:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> given the above, no evidence that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEFORE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEFORE">WP:BEFORE</a> was followed. Contra the above, if not independently notable, it should be upmerged into <a href="/wiki/Uplift_universe" class="mw-redirect" title="Uplift universe">Uplift universe</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jclemens" title="User:Jclemens">Jclemens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jclemens" title="User talk:Jclemens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:06, 12 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - Please feel free to provide any links to reliable sources that provide significant coverage about this topic herein in this discussion. I always search for sources about a topic prior to any nomination for deletion. While <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEFORE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEFORE">WP:BEFORE</a> is not mandatory, it's functional and righteous to implement for the sake of the encyclopedia. <small><span style="font-family:arial;"><a href="/wiki/User:Northamerica1000" title="User:Northamerica1000">Northamerica1000</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Northamerica1000" title="User talk:Northamerica1000">(talk)</a></sup></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z-Jclemens-2013-02-12T03:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T05:53:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z"></span>You said you found nothing worthwhile. The above editor notes 8,000 potentially relevant references. Nothing personal, but when one person says "I searched and found nothing" and another says "There's sources out there", odds are pretty prevalent that the latter editor is correct. My above statement was not particularly well worded, and I admit that it gives the impression that you did nothing, rather than just not digging deep enough. Still, you nominated a clearly verifiable fictional element with a good merge target for deletion rather than seeking a merger, which is preferred by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ATD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ATD">WP:ATD</a>. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Jclemens" title="User:Jclemens">Jclemens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jclemens" title="User talk:Jclemens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T05:53:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T05:53:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jclemens-2013-02-12T05:53:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-12T05:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DavidHobby-2013-02-12T04:34:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Keep.</b> It's certainly more notable than many existing articles. In any event, it should not be deleted outright. A redirect to a related page would be in order. <a href="/wiki/User:DavidHobby" title="User:DavidHobby">DavidHobby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DavidHobby" title="User talk:DavidHobby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-DavidHobby-2013-02-12T04:34:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DavidHobby-2013-02-12T04:34:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DavidHobby-2013-02-12T04:34:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nerlost-2013-02-18T08:40:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Keep.</b> I wanted to find the novel by Brin with the aliens that had waxy rings - I couldn't remember the name. If not an article in their own right, move to <a href="/wiki/Uplift_Universe" title="Uplift Universe">Uplift Universe</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nerlost" title="User:Nerlost">Nerlost</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nerlost" title="User talk:Nerlost">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jophur#c-Nerlost-2013-02-18T08:40:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:40, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nerlost-2013-02-18T08:40:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nerlost-2013-02-18T08:40:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2013-02-11T10:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). 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