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No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>Moved to <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a></b> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Amakuru-2017-11-22T10:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:44, 22 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2017-11-22T10:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2017-11-22T10:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknowns" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknowns"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017"></span>Tomb of the Unknowns</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tomb_of_the_Unknowns_(United_States)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tomb of the Unknowns (United States) (page does not exist)">Tomb of the Unknowns (United States)</a> – The name does not uniquely identify U.S. monument <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/141.131.2.3" title="Special:Contributions/141.131.2.3">141.131.2.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:141.131.2.3" title="User talk:141.131.2.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 13 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017-1"></span>The title "Tomb of the Unknowns" is not an official title of the U.S. monument and there are various monuments around the world that are variously referred to as <i>Tomb of the Unknowns</i>, <i>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</i>, <i>Tomb of the Unknown Warrior</i>, etc. Implying that this title somehow uniquely identifies the U.S. monument or that the U.S. monument is somehow more significant than the others IMHO is rather conceited. I think making the specific locale clear in the article title is appropriate. </p><p>There already exists a link <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tomb_of_the_Unknowns_(United_States)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tomb of the Unknowns (United States) (page does not exist)">Tomb of the Unknowns (United States)</a> so the content here can just be moved there. Then the this article can become a link to <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</a> which is a generic article for all of the momuments around the world. </p><p>-- MC <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/141.131.2.3" title="Special:Contributions/141.131.2.3">141.131.2.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:141.131.2.3" title="User talk:141.131.2.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 13 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_13_November_2017-1"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Netoholic-2017-11-13T17:37:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Definitely needs a move, as "Tomb of the <i>Unknown Soldier</i>" is far more in use and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Explore/Tomb-of-the-Unknown-Soldier">official</a> than "Tomb of the <i>Unknowns</i>" when referring to this specific site. <b>move to <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a></b> as more specific, as there are other unknown soldier tombs within the US. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier?from=Tomb+of+the+Unknown+Soldier&to=Tomb+of+the+Unknown+Soldierz&namespace=0">Several similar sites</a> use city identification, and that's appropriate for a large country like the US. Prevents future conflicts for the name. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Netoholic" title="User:Netoholic">Netoholic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Netoholic" title="User talk:Netoholic">@</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Netoholic-2017-11-13T17:37:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 13 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Netoholic-2017-11-13T17:37:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Netoholic-2017-11-13T17:37:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2017-11-13T19:51:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>move to <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a></b> as per more reliable third party sources <a href="/wiki/User:In_ictu_oculi" title="User:In ictu oculi">In ictu oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:In_ictu_oculi" title="User talk:In ictu oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-In_ictu_oculi-2017-11-13T19:51:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2017-11-13T19:51:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-In_ictu_oculi-2017-11-13T19:51:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.51.45.76-2017-11-15T04:13:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Alternate</b> move to <i><a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a></i>; and then repoint the current title to <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.51.45.76" title="Special:Contributions/70.51.45.76">70.51.45.76</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.51.45.76" title="User talk:70.51.45.76">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-70.51.45.76-2017-11-15T04:13:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:13, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.51.45.76-2017-11-15T04:13:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.51.45.76-2017-11-15T04:13:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2017-11-15T15:58:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>SIRIS (the Smithsonian) has <i>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</i> so <b>Move to</b> <i><a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a></i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Carptrash-2017-11-15T15:58:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2017-11-15T15:58:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2017-11-15T15:58:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. No evidence that the name "Tomb of the Unknowns" is common for any other monument besides this one, so disambiguation is unnecessary. The list of tombs is already linked in a hat note.--<a href="/wiki/User:Cuchullain" title="User:Cuchullain">Cúchullain</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cuchullain" title="User talk:Cuchullain"><sup>t</sup></a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cuchullain" title="Special:Contributions/Cuchullain"><small>c</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z"></span>Comment</i> - I'll just state an opinion. This strikes me as a dubious argument because</li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ol><li>The name <i>Tomb of the Unknowns</i> is hardly common usage (I had not heard of it until I saw this article). The Arlington monument is virtually universally known as the <i>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</i>.</li> <li>The names <i>Tomb of the Unknowns</i> and <i>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</i> are obviously extremely similar. Arguing that these two slightly different variants could not be very easily confused I do not think makes much sense. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/141.131.2.3" title="Special:Contributions/141.131.2.3">141.131.2.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:141.131.2.3#top" title="User talk:141.131.2.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2017-11-20T16:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></li></ol> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cuchullain-2017-11-21T16:28:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z"></span>The idea that "Tomb of the Unknowns" is... unknown is false on its face.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tomb+of+the+Unknowns%22&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbu6qJitDXAhWELSYKHVUGBk8Q_AUIECgB&biw=1833&bih=860">[1]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tomb+of+the+Unknowns%22&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-1N6KitDXAhXCOCYKHWjFALIQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1833&bih=860&dpr=1">[2]</a> The two phrases are also sufficiently different per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SMALLDETAILS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SMALLDETAILS">WP:SMALLDETAILS</a> - one includes an entire additional word. It may be the case that "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier" is more commonly used, but "Tomb of the Unknowns" is well established enough to serve as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION">WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION</a>. It's also worth pointing out that the Tomb of the Unknowns includes several additional burials beyond the original "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier" from WWI.--<a href="/wiki/User:Cuchullain" title="User:Cuchullain">Cúchullain</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cuchullain" title="User talk:Cuchullain"><sup>t</sup></a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cuchullain" title="Special:Contributions/Cuchullain"><small>c</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Cuchullain-2017-11-21T16:28:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cuchullain-2017-11-21T16:28:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cuchullain-2017-11-21T16:28:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-21T15:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Signaleer-2017-11-21T13:27:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> It appears that Canada officially refers to their unknown soldier site as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/art-monuments/monuments/tomb-unknown-soldier.html">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier</a>. By in large, most countries do not specifically refer to their physical sites as Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. I will also note that within the United States: <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Revolutionary_War_Soldier" title="Tomb of the Unknown Revolutionary War Soldier">Tomb of the Unknown Revolutionary War Soldier</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_of_the_American_Revolution" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier of the American Revolution">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier of the American Revolution</a>, <a href="/wiki/Civil_War_Unknowns_Monument" title="Civil War Unknowns Monument">Civil War Unknowns Monument</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Confederate_Soldier" title="Tomb of the Unknown Confederate Soldier">Tomb of the Unknown Confederate Soldier</a> these locations are not officially called: Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. -<a href="/wiki/User:Signaleer" title="User:Signaleer">Signaleer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Signaleer" title="User talk:Signaleer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Signaleer-2017-11-21T13:27:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Signaleer-2017-11-21T13:27:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Signaleer-2017-11-21T13:27:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Move to <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a>.</b> The current name seems to be both uncommon and unofficial, not quite a Wikipedia invention but no more suitable than that as an article title. I note that there's a history at that name which is not significant in terms of copyleft licensing, but worth noting the reverted cut-and-paste move <i>17:20, 19 November 2017 2605:6000:ec16:c000:cdde:a37a:f23b:4b85 (talk | block) . . (42,305 bytes) (+42,271) . . (Article move to new name, per consensus)</i>. I have no idea where that claimed consensus is documented, and am skeptical, but I've <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2605:6000:EC16:C000:CDDE:A37A:F23B:4B85&diff=811437408&oldid=811120909">posted a heads-up</a> to the IP concerned. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrewa" title="User:Andrewa">Andrewa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrewa" title="User talk:Andrewa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z-141.131.2.3-2017-11-13T16:36:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrewa-2017-11-22T09:08:00.000Z-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z"></span>It appears that the claimed consensus was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknowns&diff=811120431&oldid=810586533">this out of process close of this very RM</a>, which was subsequently reverted along with the cut-and-paste move. I missed that somehow. No change of !vote. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrewa" title="User:Andrewa">Andrewa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrewa" title="User talk:Andrewa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Andrewa-2017-11-22T09:08:00.000Z-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 22 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrewa-2017-11-22T09:08:00.000Z-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrewa-2017-11-22T09:08:00.000Z-Andrewa-2017-11-21T16:33:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Selecting_the_Unknown" data-mw-thread-id="h-Selecting_the_Unknown-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Selecting_the_Unknown-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z"></span>Selecting the Unknown<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Selecting_the_Unknown-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Selecting the Unknown"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z-Selecting_the_Unknown"></span>This question was raised in a discussion online, and I didn't have a solid answer. Do we know how the authorities are certain the Unknown was indeed an American? I assume they selected someone whose location or equipment showed him as undeniably American, but I don't <i>know,</i> and a cursory search hasn't found anything. Perhaps some Wikipedian who's better-read on the subject than I can add that? </p><p><span style="font-family:serif; color: green">*<a href="/wiki/User:Septegram" title="User:Septegram">Septegram</a>*<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Septegram" title="User talk:Septegram">Talk</a>*<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Septegram" title="Special:Contributions/Septegram">Contributions</a>*</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z-Selecting_the_Unknown" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z-Selecting_the_Unknown"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z-Selecting_the_Unknown"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Septegram" title="User:Septegram">Septegram</a>:</span>The answer is in Robert Poole's book, <i>On Hallowed Ground: The Story of Arlington National Cemetery</i> (referenced <a href="#Vietnam_unknown's_medal">above</a>). I can't get you the exact page number tonight, but I'll try over the course of the next few days. <a href="/wiki/User:Bob305" title="User:Bob305">Bob305</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bob305" title="User talk:Bob305">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-28T15:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks; I think it would be great information to have in the article.</dd> <dd><span style="font-family:serif; color: green">*<a href="/wiki/User:Septegram" title="User:Septegram">Septegram</a>*<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Septegram" title="User talk:Septegram">Talk</a>*<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Septegram" title="Special:Contributions/Septegram">Contributions</a>*</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 29 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z-Bob305-2021-04-28T21:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bob305-2021-04-29T20:50:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Septegram" title="User:Septegram">Septegram</a>:</span>Pages 149–152 detail the selection of the body. There were unknown American dead in <a href="/wiki/Aisne-Marne_American_Cemetery_and_Memorial" title="Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial">Aisne-Marne</a>, <a href="/wiki/Meuse-Argonne_American_Cemetery" title="Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery">Meuse-Argonne</a>, <a href="/wiki/Somme_American_Cemetery_and_Memorial" title="Somme American Cemetery and Memorial">Somme</a>, and <a href="/wiki/St._Mihiel_American_Cemetery_and_Memorial" title="St. Mihiel American Cemetery and Memorial">St. Mihiel</a>. One unkown body was selected from each, and then through several "shufflings" of the caskets, one was selected. The remaining 3 were shuffled again and returned to Meuse-Argonne for burial. To specifically answer your question, page 149 indicates that "the War Department ... issu[ed] orders for the Quartermaster Corps to find an unknown solider [<i>sic</i>] who was a combat fatality, buried in France, positively known to be American". The footnote to the overall process indicates Poole took his information from a memo in <a href="/wiki/NARA" class="mw-redirect" title="NARA">NARA</a> files written to the Army chief of staff. <a href="/wiki/User:Bob305" title="User:Bob305">Bob305</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bob305" title="User talk:Bob305">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Bob305-2021-04-29T20:50:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 29 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bob305-2021-04-29T20:50:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bob305-2021-04-29T20:50:00.000Z-Septegram-2021-04-29T14:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown" data-mw-thread-id="h-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown-20230924170800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown-20230924170800"></span>Selecting the Unknown - section The Vietnam Unknown<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown-20230924170800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Selecting the Unknown - section The Vietnam Unknown"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cloptonson-20230924170800-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown"></span>Any information as to how the remains were selected and from where they were obtained? It is conspiciously absent from that section unlike those from WWI, WWII and Korea.<a href="/wiki/User:Cloptonson" title="User:Cloptonson">Cloptonson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cloptonson" title="User talk:Cloptonson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Cloptonson-20230924170800-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 24 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cloptonson-20230924170800-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cloptonson-20230924170800-Selecting_the_Unknown_-_section_The_Vietnam_Unknown"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_27_March_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_27_March_2024-20240327092600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_27_March_2024-20240327092600"></span>Requested move 27 March 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_27_March_2024-20240327092600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Requested move 27 March 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ModernDayTrilobite-20240508142700-Requested_move_27_March_2024"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a> after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>moved.</b> Although opponents raised sound points about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONCISION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONCISION">WP:CONCISION</a> and potential <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERPRECISION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERPRECISION">WP:OVERPRECISION</a>, the discussion as a whole appears to have reached a consensus that the proposed title's increased <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRECISION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRECISION">WP:PRECISION</a> is meaningful rather than unnecessary, and that the improvement in clarity would be sufficient to outweigh the concerns. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Closure_by_a_page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">closed by non-admin page mover</a>)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:ModernDayTrilobite" title="User:ModernDayTrilobite">ModernDayTrilobite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ModernDayTrilobite" title="User talk:ModernDayTrilobite">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ModernDayTrilobite" title="Special:Contributions/ModernDayTrilobite">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-ModernDayTrilobite-20240508142700-Requested_move_27_March_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ModernDayTrilobite-20240508142700-Requested_move_27_March_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ModernDayTrilobite-20240508142700-Requested_move_27_March_2024"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington)" class="mw-redirect" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PK-WIKI-20240327092600-Requested_move_27_March_2024"></span>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington)</a> → <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)</a> – The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is a memorial within <a href="/wiki/Arlington_National_Cemetery" title="Arlington National Cemetery">Arlington National Cemetery</a>, not a distinct location in <a href="/wiki/Arlington_County,_Virginia" title="Arlington County, Virginia">Arlington County, Virginia</a>. The disambiguation should refer to the specific and very well known cemetery complex of which the tomb is a part, not the wider census-designated place. This is like disambiguating with <a href="/w/index.php?title=West_Wing_(Washington,_D.C.)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="West Wing (Washington, D.C.) (page does not exist)">West Wing (Washington, D.C.)</a> rather than <a href="/wiki/West_Wing_(White_House)" class="mw-redirect" title="West Wing (White House)">West Wing (White House)</a>. Or <a href="/w/index.php?title=Matterhorn_(Anaheim)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Matterhorn (Anaheim) (page does not exist)">Matterhorn (Anaheim)</a> rather than <a href="/wiki/Matterhorn_(Disneyland)" class="mw-redirect" title="Matterhorn (Disneyland)">Matterhorn (Disneyland)</a>. "<a href="/wiki/Arlington" class="mw-disambig" title="Arlington">Arlington</a>" is also itself ambiguous, most notably between <a href="/wiki/Arlington,_Texas" title="Arlington, Texas">Arlington, Texas</a> and <a href="/wiki/Arlington,_Virginia" class="mw-redirect" title="Arlington, Virginia">Arlington, Virginia</a>. Our <a href="/wiki/Arlington,_Virginia" class="mw-redirect" title="Arlington, Virginia">Arlington, Virginia</a> article even then redirects to <a href="/wiki/Arlington_County,_Virginia" title="Arlington County, Virginia">Arlington County, Virginia</a>. Muddled and ambiguous. <a href="/wiki/User:PK-WIKI" title="User:PK-WIKI">PK-WIKI</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PK-WIKI" title="User talk:PK-WIKI">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-PK-WIKI-20240327092600-Requested_move_27_March_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PK-WIKI-20240327092600-Requested_move_27_March_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PK-WIKI-20240327092600-Requested_move_27_March_2024"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randy_Kryn-20240327140100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Support</b> per nomination. This tomb is directly tied to the cemetery by historical significance and included sites and features. <a href="/wiki/User:Randy_Kryn" title="User:Randy Kryn">Randy Kryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randy_Kryn" title="User talk:Randy Kryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Randy_Kryn-20240327140100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randy_Kryn-20240327140100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randy_Kryn-20240327140100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skynxnex-20240403173900-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Comment</b> the cemetery is fairly commonly referred to as just "Arlington" as well so it's possible that was the intention of the title. I think having the more specific disambiguator is fine, however, given the overlap with other Arlingtons, although the least specific disambiguator possible is normally preferable and based on the other tombs in <a href="/wiki/Category:Tombs_of_Unknown_Soldiers" title="Category:Tombs of Unknown Soldiers">Category:Tombs of Unknown Soldiers</a> <b>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington, Virginia)</b> may be a better choice. <a href="/wiki/User:Skynxnex" title="User:Skynxnex">Skynxnex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skynxnex" title="User talk:Skynxnex">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Skynxnex-20240403173900-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skynxnex-20240403173900-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skynxnex-20240403173900-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wbm1058-20240404112500-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Support</b> per nomination. Note that I've restored the <a href="#Requested_move_13_November_2017">previous move discussion from the archive</a>. <b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tomb_of_the_Unknowns&redirect=no">Tomb of the Unknowns</a></span></b> remains a redirect to this article, and some <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Tomb_of_the_Unknowns&namespace=0&limit=250">179 articles</a> still link to the previous title. I think it's reasonable to keep this as a primary redirect similar to the also ambiguous <a href="/wiki/The_Unknown_Warrior" title="The Unknown Warrior">The Unknown Warrior</a> which is primary for the UK. However, per <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tomb+of+the+Unknown+Soldier%2CTomb+of+the+Unknowns&year_start=1910&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3">the Ngram</a>, this term only came into common usage in the 1950s after a WWII soldier was added, and has never been close to being the most commonly-used term. Most members of <a href="/wiki/Category:Tombs_of_Unknown_Soldiers" title="Category:Tombs of Unknown Soldiers">Category:Tombs of Unknown Soldiers</a> use disambiguation by country, but <a href="/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier#United_States" title="Tomb of the Unknown Soldier">Tomb of the Unknown Soldier#United States</a> shows how that's not practical, or by major (capital) city, but (Washington) isn't practical because, while the tomb is located in the Washington metro area, it is not in Washington, D.C. proper. – <a href="/wiki/User:Wbm1058" title="User:Wbm1058">wbm1058</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wbm1058" title="User talk:Wbm1058">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Wbm1058-20240404112500-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wbm1058-20240404112500-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wbm1058-20240404112500-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-20240404153100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Oppose</b>. The disambiguator only needs to be sufficiently precise to disambiguate against other similar articles, it is not part of the title itself. As such, "Arlington" is plenty long enough, as there aren't any other Tombs of the Unknown Soldier in any other Arlingtons on the planet. Anyone searching for this article will immediately <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECOGNIZE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECOGNIZE">WP:RECOGNIZE</a> it when they see the word "Arlington" in the title, and further disambiguation is both clunky and entirely unnecessary. — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Amakuru-20240404153100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-20240404153100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-20240404153100-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfhutson-20240404183600-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Oppose</b> per Amakuru and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONCISE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONCISE">WP:CONCISE</a>. "Arlington" is the most obvious and concise way to disambiguate it, whether one means the cemetery or county. --</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jfhutson" title="User:Jfhutson">Jfhutson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfhutson" title="User talk:Jfhutson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-Jfhutson-20240404183600-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfhutson-20240404183600-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfhutson-20240404183600-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BD2412-20240410185300-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Support</b>, to avoid confusion. Readers may well not know that <a href="/wiki/Arlington_National_Cemetery" title="Arlington National Cemetery">Arlington National Cemetery</a> is located in <a href="/wiki/Arlington,_Virginia" class="mw-redirect" title="Arlington, Virginia">Arlington, Virginia</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>BD2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-BD2412-20240410185300-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BD2412-20240410185300-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BD2412-20240410185300-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnandaBliss-20240430144700-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span>Support</b>, being in the Arlington National Cemetery is much more important than the fact that it is in Arlington, Virginia. While people colloquially refer to the cemetery as "Arlington," that shouldn't be used in official names of Wikipedia articles. <a href="/wiki/User:AnandaBliss" title="User:AnandaBliss">AnandaBliss</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnandaBliss" title="User talk:AnandaBliss">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tomb_of_the_Unknown_Soldier_(Arlington_National_Cemetery)#c-AnandaBliss-20240430144700-PK-WIKI-20240327092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnandaBliss-20240430144700-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnandaBliss-20240430144700-PK-WIKI-20240327092600"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. 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