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As it prepares to declare independence from Serbia all that the world’s newest country needs is an anthem, a flag, a constitution, a legal code, international recognition and a truce with its angry neighbour, amid continued fears of violence. </p><p> Some of the essentials are nearly in place while the others will take years and may never be achieved. One thing is certain: there will be a small but significant name change on the map when the province of Kosovo breaks away from Serbian rule and becomes the Republic of Kosova, the title used by the ethnic Albanians who make up 90 per cent of the population. </p><p> “We call Kosovo Kosova. It is the name that has existed here for centuries,” said Fadil Hysa, an adviser to the Prime Minister. “It was always Kosova among the Albanians. It will be the Republic of Kosova.” </p><p> Kosovo has been under UN protection since the war of 1999 when Nato bombed Belgrade to prevent Serbian ethnic cleansing. It is expected to declare independence on February 17. </p><!--#include file="m63-article-related-attachements.html"--><p> Russia will never recognise Kosovo as long as Serbia objects to the loss of the southern province it regards as the cradle of the Serb nation. This will leave the new country in international legal limbo, even with the approval of the US and most of Europe. </p><p> Kosovo’s constitution is being written with help from US advisers. The Museum of London has advised on the materials to use to best preserve it and the declaration of independence for posterity. But the simple process of finding a flag for this new Balkan territory shows how difficult the transition to statehood will be. All over Kosovo the flag that flies is that of Albania — the two-headed black eagle on a red background. It was carried by the Kosovan Liberation Army into battle against the Serbs in 1998-99. Much to the annoyance of most of its population, the Government has heeded a UN call to find a new design that will not be offensive to the 200,000 Serbs who live in enclaves dotted around Kosovo, some heavily fortified with razor wire and guarded by Nato troops. An international competition brought 997 proposals from as far away as New Zealand and the US including seven from Serbia. </p><p> Pristina is traversed by Bill Clinton Boulevard and has a replica Statue of Liberty, so it was no surprise that one of the proposals featured the eagle in the corner of US-style red and white horizontal stripes. It was rejected because of the Albanian connection. </p><p> Three designs are still in the running, awaiting a decision of the Kosovan parliament. The Times understands that two of these are based on a black, white and red tricolour, one of which features a spiral in the centre representing a Bronze Age symbol from the Dardanian Kingdom which held sway in the 4th century BC. The other design is understood to be a map of Kosovo surrounded by five yellow stars on a blue background. </p><p> The first two bring together colours from the Albanian tradition (black and red) and the Serbian (blue, white and red) while the third recalls the EU’s ring of gold stars on blue — highlighting Kosovo’s desire to join Western Europe. Kosovo will also adopt a coat of arms, probably featuring the country’s most prized archaeological artefact, a 6,000-year-old terracotta figurine. Arber Hadri, director of Pristina’s museum, said: “The Goddess on the Throne is a symbol of the heritage and cultural identity of Kosovo. It is a symbol that is acceptable for all the communities in Kosova because it does not have an ethnic background.” </p><p> Mr Hadri is pushing for the Dardanian spiral to be included on the new flag. “The spiral is a symbol of the rotating sun, like life. You cannot change the cultural identity of the people. But it is better to have totally new symbols for a totally new state.” </p><p> Meanwhile, even though it does not yet know the national anthem, the Kosovo Philharmonic is busy rehearsing Beethoven’s Ode to Joy. </p><p><b>— </b>Several thousand people rallied in Belgrade yesterday to urge leaders to press on with Serbia’s integration into the European Union regardless of what happens to Kosovo. The demonstration was organised by student associations in protest at the refusal of Vojislav Kostunica, the nationalist Prime Minister, to sign an accord last week with the European bloc. Carrying blue EU balloons and pro-European banners, the students braved chilly winds and chanted “Down with Kostunica”. 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//--></script><noscript><ul><li class="have-your-say"><a class="link-666" href="#comments-form">Have your say</a></li></ul></noscript></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="grey-line"></div><div class="padding-top-5-bottom-4 padding-left-right-10"><p class="small padding-bottom-5">Northen part of Kosovo (about 15% of territory) must be separated from Kosovo and joined with Serbia.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Rolandas Tucas, Vilnius, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">The Yanks are so good at harming the Serbs. The Yanks were not thinking about independance or human rights, and the fact is they are destroying the former Yogoslavia. Kosovo is just a tool of USA.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Alan, Durham, UK</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">It's about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito's Yugoslavia & Milloshevic's Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD. They have always been a minority and 'the story' of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Adrian, USA, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><div id="comments-4-to-n" class=""><script type="text/javascript"><!-- // Hide comments-4-to-n because there is no " access-text" in the classname of comments-form. fShowHideElement('comments-4-to-n'); //--></script><p class="small padding-bottom-5">CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!! It's about time kosovo was set free.they deserve their freedom after what they'ev been through. i dont care if anyone thinks im silly for sayin it but i know how hard its been. <br/><br/>i know some people from there and i couldn't have asked for such nice friends.love the new flag and they also deserve to have alot of support for the coming future im behind them the whole way!!!!</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">jemma, chesham, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">KOSOVO IS SERBIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Lovke, Bor, Serbia</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">First of all the flag is beautiful as it really represents the true people of Kosovo. We have to keep in mind that people of Kosovo are albanians and we can't forget that, serbs or other ethnic minorities have migrated to Kosovo, and Kosovo can't or don't have to represent them in their national Hymn or Flag as it wouldn't be appropriate or make sens to it's true people. <br/>Important to migrants is their human rights, freedom and to be treated equaly with albanians (true people) of Kosovo and they should have it but no more than that. <br/>More than 90% of people of Kosovo are albanians and they own and deserve their country so their Hymn and Flag.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Rolandas Tucas, Vilnius, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div> <p class="small padding-bottom-5">fredom to the people, and if someone doesent agree let he try to live under tirany and than support Serbia, easy to talk from outside where you were safe you should lived in tirany and than you had the right to comment </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Florim, skopje, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">I AM VERYYYY HAPPPYYY for KOSOVA's Independance!! Its about time!! all you haters need to relax im pretty sure if your country was at war for a long time for there independance you would want independace too... ALSO when Kosova becomes independant believe me we are veryyyy wealthy in oil and other resources that we could trade... WATCH KOSOVA end up becoming the riched country in EUROPE!!!! GOOOOO KOSOVA!!!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Veronica, New York, United States</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">I agree with some of the previous posts. We're setting a very bad and dangerous precedent. International law is being ignored and we're giving in to both terrorism and staunch lack of dialogue. Other cases will sprout all around the world, taking advantage of this immature unllateral decision. </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Iker, Spain, Spain</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">It is funny. Sooner or later Texas, New Mexico or Arisona will be overwhelmed with lations that proclame their independence under mexican flag. Did you think abou this future? Right, I forgot none will bomb Washington <br/>EU position is absolutely stupid in here. On one hand they do not want Turkey in EU and find tons of reasons for that but on the other hand they create a huge islamic country in hystorically christian Europe? What do they do that albanians in Europe? Pimps, drug dealing. Economy? Basim, what a hell are you doing in Malmo, Sweden, if albanian economy is so flourishing that everyone dreams to deal with famous albanian firms (do you know any by chanse)? <br/>That is absolutely short-vision position - US and EU just wants to be good for rich oil muslims for serbian's count. I can understand US supporting growth of islamic country in Europe - they are far and yesterday they made europians trips to US more difficult (reason? because they adopted too many radical muslims), but EU!!</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Dick, Amsterdam, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Cyprus, Russia, Bulgaria, Spain and Canada, these are not the only countries that exist you know, there is approximatly 100 countries that will recognize Kosova, I'm pretty sure that we will trade with them. <br/><br/>However many of those countries you mentioned will sooner or later trade with Kosova aswell. Its in their economical intrests. <br/></p><div class="padding-top-5"></div> <p class="small color-666">Besim, Malmoe, Sweden</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">the first flag is designed by a friend of mine, but personally i have grown to like the third one with the circle representing the rotation of the sun = existence, I like that flag, I understand the love of the flag of Albania, but that flag will remain a national flag for all albanians whereever they are, but this new flag is a flag of a newborn country, GOD bless, long live in peace with its angry neihgbours</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">fratko, Prishtina, KOSOVA</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">I'm happy Kosova is finally becoming independent. I'm disgusted by some of the comments on this page. I do not understand how some of you who are not Serbian actually say that we don't deserve independence, all I can say is that you should read about what really happened in Kosova, and not just in 98-99, read about the history. <br/><br/>I live in Canada, and I am ashamed at the stupidity of the some of the political people here who belive that, because Kosova is getting its independence this will allow Quebec to get its independence also. This is a stupid argument because no one has gone into Quebec from the other provinces to start an ethnic cleansing of the Quebecios. <br/><br/>Anyway, what Canada things really doesn't matter, we have the support of the EU and the UN, and I do not think they are stupid, and they have all the needed information to make a just judgment over the situation. <br/><br/>Kosova needs it's indepence, just as Slovakia, Croatia, Macedonia, Bosnia, and Montenegro all got their independen</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Petrit, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">To be good neighbours, as is the case between Serbs and Albanians alike, it is considered good fate. One doesn't choose a neighbour.... one only learns (the hard way if necessary) how to live in peace, so people can prosper.... <br/>Let the Serbs be reminded that Albanians have fought ever since 1918, when Kosova was given unjustly to Yugoslavia not to Serbia (happy then ? there is no legal treaty to ever recognise Kosova as part of Serbia, only Yugoslavia). Albanians are the native people of Europe and there can be no mistake, civilised or not, they have to rule themselvs. <br/><br/>Be real buddys.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Erjon, Tirana, Albania</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">The land wasn't stolen.. the border of Serbia was opened in 1947 to Albanians who were looking to run away from their strong Communist system. Over the course of sixty years, the Albanian population grew into the majority and demanded independence. And even if Kosovo does get independence, what then? Poorest country in Europe? They won't be able to survive economically. Eventually, America's need for them will run out and they'll be left with nothing but extreme poverty. Who would want to trade with Kosovo? Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Cyprus, Russia, Bulgaria, Spain and Canada all oppose Kosovo independence, and Eag, you are indeed correct to voice your opinion about Western hubris. There will be consequences that echo to every continent.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Schonya, Toronto, Ontario</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">From what I can see on these comments some people here aren't really happy about Kosova's Indipendence, but I want to let them know that this is the will of 95% of Kosova's population. Don't you know any Maths guys??!!</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Faton, Llap, The Republic of Kosova</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">F.A.O Albanian People <br/><br/>My brothers and sisters I cant wait to celebrate the Independence of Kosovo. We should stay united and support one another no matter what religion gender or colour we belong to. God Bless you all. </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Ilir Shaqiri, Lewisham London, England</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">With regards to the flag. I believe it is unfair to have a flag that does not represent something albanian. We have to have something albanian so we could love it and respect it.We have identity this is not an artificial state.IT's a natural one. <br/>We need to have our identity represented in our flag.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Armend, Ferizaj, Kosovo</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">this is Kosova, a place to live, for everyone. I am born and I am still in Kosova, like any body else with a lot of etnicall groups. you must ask your self. Does any one need to be independent from serbia? Yes, of corse it is and the only country who deserve to be independent from this serbian vampires is Kosova. So be careful Europe if you just wait so long there will be blood, there will be war. We must be independent, we fight, we gave everything we had to be sovran on this country. The history has proved that we are from centurys here, and we are the owners of this side of Europe, and the serbs are just some nation which came from Rusia. <br/>I hope and I am sure that the final decison of being independent will come soon. <br/><br/>Long live Kosova Republic, Long live Albanians <br/><br/>God bless Kosova, EU, USA and everyone who helpd us </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Blerim, Rahovec/Kosova, Kosova</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">'Rrofte Kosova e Pavarur' - Long live independent Kosova <br/><br/>That is all that matters. We are FREE! </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Ed ILLIRIA, London, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">"Happy Together" by the Leningrad Cowboys, and a nice smiley yellow face with green eyes and smile for the flag.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">J. Voland, Caen, France</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">i dont like any of the three flags, they represent nothing why should we have something in the flag to represent serbs they are only 5% of population of Kosova, there are also turks living in there does it mean we have to stick a kebab roll in it as well now? or roma,bosnian, croat symbol? <br/><br/>thisi s ridiculouse... anyway for me there is only on flag and i thing everyone can see that. </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">fatos, London/Prishtina, Uk/ Rep. of Kosova</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">Well, the flas will have to be something to symbolize the state and not the nation. these two concepts are oftenly mixed up by the people who do not live in Balkans therfore they do not understand that the Kosovo flas will not be a national flag but a state flag. The national flag will remain as long as we (the kosovo people) remain albanians by nationality. This is why nationality and citizenship are not the same. The national flag and state flag are not the same and that is all. Fore example I will respect this new flag and yea have a passport with it but in the other hand I will also be proud to ba albanian and use national (with black eagle in red field) flag. That is the flag of mine and I can not change it. This is not matter of a decision to change something...it is like your politicians make a decision to convert you to another religion? would it be acceptable? I dont think so...this is why the national flag will still remain the same among kosovo ethinc albanians. </p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Abi, Pristina, Kosovo</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">I cannot believe that the world is blind to see that this is the 1st step in a Greater Albania. <br/><br/>Who are kosovo Albanians? They are illegal immigrants who bolstered the numbers to become a majority and now want independance! What a joke they are making of the UN and US. <br/><br/>Serbian people were driven out of their homes during WW2 so they became a minority. <br/><br/>Serbia protected US airmen after being taken down by AXIS forces and 100's of thousands of serbian people lost their lives so that Europe is what it is now, a free and democratic society.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">Sasha, Cronulla, Australia</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">IT is the Albanian flag and albanian anthem. Kosovo is part of the Great Albania state. Next on the firing line is Macedonia. It will be another terrorism success story supported by NATO.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">bobby, Sydney, </p><div class="padding-top-10"></div> <p class="small padding-bottom-5">I hope the flag stays the same! We have it in our home, our clothing, and even our daughters jewlery. This is the only flag our children and us have ever known. This is the flag we wore to fight for our country, changing it would be.......no words to describe.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">saim, st. louis, missouri</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">Typical American / British ideology...Stolen you say, Julian. and what have the American and English Stolen over the centuries...Lots. I am British but have left the nation I once loved because of such government decisions. <br/><br/>The 'west' really needs to stop interferring with the rest of the world and concentrate on returning normality to its own nations.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">D.J.Jones, Kuwait City, Kuwait</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">Thy are all ALBANIANS.And i think it should be the albanian flag .It is being returned back that's all.Th land was stolen by Serbia just like their cousins did with th so called soviet union(i mean the russians)</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">julian, worcestr, USA</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">This really is the most aisne action imaginable. Talk about deliberately poking a stick into the Russian Bear's eye. It is the height of hubris for us in the West to assume there will be no consequences.</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">eag, maritimes, Canada</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">thank you for cheering kosova, one day we will be cheered by russians and i hope all serbs if they survive to that day make sure do do what needs to be</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">j, london, uk</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">ask solana ,klinton and bush to make anthem they can sing as well +blair and &</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">j, london, uk</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div><p class="small padding-bottom-5">down to eu and usa</p><div class="padding-top-5"></div><p class="small color-666">k moss, bangor, bangor</p><div class="padding-top-10"></div></div><div id="read-all-comments-container"></div></div></div><script type="text/javascript"><!-- sReadAllComments = 'Read all 32 comments'; 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