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while Tom’s face looks fine<br /> Then they announce Jon the winner and he says he’s taking a break or maybe retiring<br /> <br /> This is what GSP did to Johnny Hendricks although Jon has had two close scenarios like this with the Gus and Reyes fights<br /> <br /> GSP lost a fight, somehow won it, and then left the sport lol <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> that was before even screwing over the middleweights (but we didn’t wanna see GSP fight Yoel anyway right?) <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>GSP won that 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class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452105" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452105">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Did GSP get as much heat as Jones for hand-picking Bisping, promising to not retire, and then ducking entire MW division?<br /> <br /> Or is it just bias against Jones for refusing Aspinall?<br /> <br /> Did Sherdog treat GSP with same energy? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>GSP planned on returning and was going to fight at MW or WW. It was partly dependent on which champ Dana was going to allow to fight him. Whittaker being hurt means GSP was a plug in. He didn't avoid and then cherry pick as much as Jones did, but GSP got tons of criticism for it and it still remains one of the biggest claims of cherry-picking out there. GSP won the belt from the actual champion. He immediately came out and said that gaining weight was very difficult, revealed he suffered from a legitimate medical condition, and vacated the belt a month later.<br /> <br /> So yeah, he did the job much better than Jones is doing it, and yes, he was still greatly criticized for all of that<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 607519" data-quote="koa pomaikai" data-source="post: 174452214" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452214" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452214">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> He promised he wouldn’t retire and would defend. Jones didn’t hold anything up. Tom got his Interim belt.<br /> <br /> GSP got the title shot because he promised Dana he’d defend, didn’t do it and then wanted a shot against Khabib lol. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Prior to the fight, he said he has to defend, but he said it was also always in his plan to maybe challenge for the WW title again, and possibly even drop to LW for a fight there.<br /> <br /> The decision on leaving MW was basically made for him when he could not keep the weight up to stay there because of his condition, so yeah, dropping down in weight and speculating on a Khabib fight would be understandable in that situation<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 607519" data-quote="koa pomaikai" data-source="post: 174452304" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452304" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452304">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Jones might not he humble or that respectful but he defended against everyone until the tail end of his career, just like GSP. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Which is irrelevant to the premise of your thread, considering it's about the new divisions they fought in.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 607519" data-quote="koa pomaikai" data-source="post: 174452304" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452304" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452304">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> GSP also ruined the MW division arguably worse than jones, by sniping Bisping and then immediately hightailing it after he promised not to run. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>"Ruined" is a bit dramatic, don't you think? Because of Mike's earlier injury, Rob was the interim champ already by this time. And when GSP vacated, Mike had not just lost to GSP, but also to Gastelum and retired later, so he was never getting back into the cage. Rob already beat Romero, so he was going to fight Rockhold, who was the champ before Mike, but Rob got injured and they had to do Romero vs Rockhold in the meantime and Rob fought the winner when he was ready. 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It's ducking if you are the champ and decide to fight a 42 year old that hasn't won a fight in 4 years instead of the interim champion who has 1 title defense. I mean let's be fair, GSP did the same shit but at least he had the decency to leave after and not hold the division hostage for years.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452475/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" 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class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452390">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> GSP feared every contender at MW aside from Bisping. If Khabib had been trying to fight GSP at 185 for the MW belt, GSP ain’t vacating shit and will be calling for that legacy fight while holding the belt.<br /> <br /> <b><span style="font-size: 26px">The belt is a marketing ploy at the end. Who cares if we have 2 champs.</span></b><br /> <br /> And I’m not using GSP’s fear of fighting as a negative, if anything his willingness to confront that fear has been impressive (GSP openly admits to being afraid of fights). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> This tells me you are no serious.<br /> I am sure every single fighter in the UFC would disagree with you.<br /> If there is no belt to win why even bother to fight..<br /> <br /> Again, GSP VACATED the belt. He never held up the division, there were never 2 active champs.<br /> <br /> <br /> Since you dont think belts and championship fights matters, I will end the konvo here.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="4" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452545/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>Sycho Sid</bdi>, <bdi>Mohawk Banditó</bdi>, <bdi>Lee Danger</bdi> and 1 other person</a> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="CombatCyborg" data-content="post-174452555" id="js-post-174452555" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/174452555/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-174452555"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/combatcyborg.132428/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/combatcyborg.132428/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/combatcyborg.132428/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="132428" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="https://sherdog-data.community.forum/avatars/m/132/132428.jpg?1726201595" srcset="https://sherdog-data.community.forum/avatars/l/132/132428.jpg?1726201595 2x" alt="CombatCyborg" class="avatar-u132428-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/combatcyborg.132428/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="132428" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span class="username--style2" itemprop="name">CombatCyborg</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Red Belt</h5> <div class="userBanner userBanner userBanner--primary message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle"><span class="userBanner-before"></span><strong>@red</strong><span class="userBanner-after"></span></div> </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Joined</dt> <dd>Jun 13, 2007</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Messages</dt> <dd>7,725</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Reaction score</dt> <dd>1,130</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452555" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-12-02T23:41:22-0800" data-time="1733211682" data-date-string="Dec 2, 2024" data-time-string="11:41 PM" title="Dec 2, 2024 at 11:41 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Yesterday at 11:41 PM</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452555" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/174452555/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452555" rel="nofollow"> #49 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-174452555" data-lb-caption-desc="CombatCyborg · Dec 2, 2024 at 11:41 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">GSP disappointed a lot of fans when he started to never finish fights. I think Dan Hardy was when it sunk in that he's playing it safe. <br /> <br /> Personally I don't blame him for not fighting Anderson, but Hendricks was a robbery and Bisping was a cherry pick. Yeah he got his fair share of roasting.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="joy2day" data-content="post-174452563" id="js-post-174452563" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/174452563/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-174452563"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/joy2day.607844/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/joy2day.607844/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/joy2day.607844/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="607844" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="https://sherdog-data.community.forum/avatars/m/607/607844.jpg?1722790519" srcset="https://sherdog-data.community.forum/avatars/l/607/607844.jpg?1722790519 2x" alt="joy2day" class="avatar-u607844-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/joy2day.607844/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="607844" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span class="username--style2" itemprop="name">joy2day</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Blue Belt</h5> <div class="userBanner userBanner userBanner--primary message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle"><span class="userBanner-before"></span><strong>@Blue</strong><span class="userBanner-after"></span></div> </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Joined</dt> <dd>Aug 4, 2024</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Messages</dt> <dd>602</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Reaction score</dt> <dd>1,196</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452563" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-12-02T23:48:03-0800" data-time="1733212083" data-date-string="Dec 2, 2024" data-time-string="11:48 PM" title="Dec 2, 2024 at 11:48 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Yesterday at 11:48 PM</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452563" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/174452563/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452563" rel="nofollow"> #50 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-174452563" data-lb-caption-desc="joy2day · Dec 2, 2024 at 11:48 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 517689" data-quote="FlyingDeathKick" data-source="post: 174452475" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452475" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452475">FlyingDeathKick said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> GSP did the same shit </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not really. GSP fought the champion, not some old irrelevant has-been.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452563/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>Lee Danger</bdi></a> </div> <div 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class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-174452593" data-lb-caption-desc="Mohawk Banditó · Dec 3, 2024 at 12:04 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 607519" data-quote="koa pomaikai" data-source="post: 174452311" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452311" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452311">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don’t think Jones is getting heat because he won’t retire, he’s getting heat because he isn’t fighting Aspinall. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Well, you think wrong<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 607519" data-quote="koa pomaikai" data-source="post: 174452311" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452311" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452311">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> People want to see Jones get KOed, jones retiring doesn’t fuel that desire. No one is actively foaming at the mouth to see some young strong MW kill GSP (my bias on the situation) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>People were complaining out the ass for fan darling Rob to get his shot and, as was mentioned several times, called GSP out for it<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 607519" data-quote="koa pomaikai" data-source="post: 174452412" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452412" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452412">koa pomaikai said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Being quick to vacate the belt is not a legitimate reason. Nope.<br /> <br /> His situation is in a lot of ways worse than Jones. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Keep stamping your feet, I'm sure the fit you're throwing will convince somebody</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="nonoob" data-content="post-174452607" id="js-post-174452607" 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href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452607" rel="nofollow"> #53 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-174452607" data-lb-caption-desc="nonoob · Dec 3, 2024 at 12:17 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 525411" data-quote="TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle" data-source="post: 174452126" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452126" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452126">TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> He got criticism but not anywhere near as much because he didn't stick around holding up the division for years by sitting at home with the belt and making BS defenses while shamelessly ducking obvious contenders because they "don't add anything to his legacy" and "haven't done anything". </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes TMLT, Big Difference - "HW Jones" is a total $hit stain the ufc brass allowed Dana to screw fans and degrade the sport.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small 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href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452657" rel="nofollow"> #54 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-174452657" data-lb-caption-desc="blaseblase · Dec 3, 2024 at 12:54 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">GSP immediately gave up the title and didn't hold it hostage. Jones is clinging to the title and cherry picking fights. He wouldn't be getting as much hate if he had relinquished the title.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452657/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>Lee Danger</bdi> and <bdi>Mohawk 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class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=174452563" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-174452563">joy2day said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not really. GSP fought the champion, not some old irrelevant has-been. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I mean who ever thought Bisping would be champ tho? He was always called a gatekeeper and only got the title shot because Weidman got injured. Not taking anything away from the win, it was a great win but GSP only took the chance because it was Bisping. Had the champ been Silva, Rockhold, Weidman, Souza, Romero etc... GSP would have stayed retired. <br /> <br /> So how is it Similar to Jones? Well I'm not referring to the Stipe fight when I say it's Similar, I mean the Gane fight. However with Ngannou Gone, Gane was the #1 guy in the division but Bisping was never the best in his division, in fact there were always several better than him. Bisping was ranked #4 when he fought Rockhold the second time and had he fought anybody else ranked above him he would have lost, would have lost to some ranked below him too. Rockhold's overconfidence mixed with weak chin and bad defense led to Bisping being able to catch him but he's not the better fighter and was never anywhere close to being the best in his division. <br /> <br /> Another way it's similar to Gane is the stylostic matchup, Bisping had been taken down and controlled by several fighters before and on the feet, while being good he doesn't have crazy power and in that Jones made a similar choice. Gane is a great striker but lacks power and got outwrestled by Ngannou. Jones would not have taken the fight had it been against Aspinall, Bkayeds or Ngannou, just like GSP wouldn't fight Romero, Rockhold, Souza, Weidman etc..</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452718/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>Doctor Grudge</bdi></a> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="fortheo" data-content="post-174452730" id="js-post-174452730" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/174452730/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-174452730"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/fortheo.300669/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/fortheo.300669/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/fortheo.300669/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="300669" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="https://sherdog-data.community.forum/avatars/m/300/300669.jpg?1705103285" srcset="https://sherdog-data.community.forum/avatars/l/300/300669.jpg?1705103285 2x" alt="fortheo" class="avatar-u300669-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/fortheo.300669/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="300669" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span class="username--style31" itemprop="name">fortheo</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Plutonium Belt</h5> <div class="userBanner userBanner userBanner--primary message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle"><span class="userBanner-before"></span><strong>@plutonium</strong><span class="userBanner-after"></span></div> </div> <div class="message-userExtras"> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Joined</dt> <dd>Nov 2, 2010</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Messages</dt> <dd>53,371</dd> </dl> <dl class="pairs pairs--justified"> <dt>Reaction score</dt> <dd>49,597</dd> </dl> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452730" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-12-03T01:57:01-0800" data-time="1733219821" data-date-string="Dec 3, 2024" data-time-string="1:57 AM" title="Dec 3, 2024 at 1:57 AM" itemprop="datePublished">Today at 1:57 AM</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452730" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/174452730/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/post-174452730" rel="nofollow"> #56 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-174452730" data-lb-caption-desc="fortheo · Dec 3, 2024 at 1:57 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">GSP got a ton of shit, and his situation wasn't as bad because 1. 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Testing positive for Turinabol is <br /> Underground steroids are extremely potent</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452738/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>Lee Danger</bdi> and <bdi>Bear Faced Liar</bdi></a> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="Vehap1" data-content="post-174452742" id="js-post-174452742" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/174452742/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/did-gsp-get-heat-like-jon-jones-for-ducking-entire-mw-division.4347257/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-174452742"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/vehap1.474883/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://forums.sherdog.com/members/vehap1.474883/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/vehap1.474883/" class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="474883" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" style="background-color: #6699cc; 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Jones didn’t hold anything up. Tom got his Interim belt.<br /> <br /> GSP got the title shot because he promised Dana he’d defend, didn’t do it and then wanted a shot against Khabib lol. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>And Jon is not asking for a fight Vs MW kickboxer? Jon fought old MWs all of his career xD</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> </ul> <span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> <a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/174452742/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>BEATDOWNS</bdi> and <bdi>Lee Danger</bdi></a> </div> <div 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Jon fought old MWs all of his career xD </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Those MWs make up the majority of the best 205ers of all time. 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