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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chile" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chile">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Chile</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Chile</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Chile</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Chile</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-high"><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Chile_articles" title="Category:High-importance Chile articles">High</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>High-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chile/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Chile/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259570071"><table class="tmbox tmbox-notice mw-collapsible innercollapse wpb wpb-table"><tbody><tr class="wpb-header"><td class="wpb-header-icon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_UNESCO.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_UNESCO.svg/35px-Flag_of_UNESCO.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="23" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_UNESCO.svg/53px-Flag_of_UNESCO.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_UNESCO.svg/70px-Flag_of_UNESCO.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></td><td class="wpb-header-combined"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_World_Heritage_Sites" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject World Heritage Sites">World Heritage Sites</a> </td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_UNESCO.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_UNESCO.svg/80px-Flag_of_UNESCO.svg.png" decoding="async" width="80" height="53" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_UNESCO.svg/120px-Flag_of_UNESCO.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_UNESCO.svg/160px-Flag_of_UNESCO.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_World_Heritage_Sites" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject World Heritage Sites">WikiProject World Heritage Sites</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/World_Heritage_Sites" class="mw-redirect" title="World Heritage Sites">World Heritage Sites</a> on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_World_Heritage_Sites" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World Heritage Sites">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">World Heritage Sites</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject World Heritage Sites</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject World Heritage Sites</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">World Heritage Sites</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-unknown"><a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_World_Heritage_Sites_articles" title="Category:Unknown-importance World Heritage Sites articles">???</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has not yet received a rating on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_World_Heritage_Sites/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject World Heritage Sites/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Move_of_this_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Move_of_this_page-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Move_of_this_page-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span>Move of this page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Move_of_this_page-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Move of this page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z-Move_of_this_page"></span>I happened on this and got confused by all of the redirects and such. I'm going to recommend that the following moves be made to eliminate a lot of unnecessary redirects. </p> <ol><li>Move <a href="/wiki/Valpara%C3%ADso" title="Valparaíso">Valparaíso</a> --> <a href="/wiki/Valpara%C3%ADso,_Chile" class="mw-redirect" title="Valparaíso, Chile">Valparaíso, Chile</a> This is the name most often used as a redirect along with <a href="/wiki/Valpara%C3%ADso,_Chile" class="mw-redirect" title="Valparaíso, Chile">Valparaíso, Chile</a> this appears to be the logical move since most articles reference it with Chile in the link. And since that is the proper name and the common usage it seems to make sense.</li> <li>Move <a href="/wiki/Valparaiso_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Valparaiso (disambiguation)">Valparaiso (disambiguation)</a> to Valparaiso</li> <li>Cleanup all of the redirects</li></ol> <p>Comments? <a href="/wiki/User:Vegaswikian" title="User:Vegaswikian">Vegaswikian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z-Move_of_this_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 18 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z-Move_of_this_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z-Move_of_this_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span>Respectfully disagree. The major world city down in Chile should get the un-disambiguated location, with the others linked to the dab-page. Compare with <a href="/wiki/San_Francisco" title="San Francisco">San Francisco</a> and <a href="/wiki/San_Francisco_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="San Francisco (disambiguation)">San Francisco (disambiguation)</a>, <a href="/wiki/London" title="London">London</a> and <a href="/wiki/London_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="London (disambiguation)">London (disambiguation)</a>, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Hajor" title="User:Hajor">–<i>Hajor</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 18 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T00:03:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z"></span>Except <a href="/wiki/San_Francisco" title="San Francisco">San Francisco</a> redirects to <a href="/wiki/San_Francisco,_California" class="mw-redirect" title="San Francisco, California">San Francisco, California</a> and the same is true for many major cities in the Americas. If you look at the links to this page you will see that most of them are from the redirects with Chile in the title. So that seems to be the more common name that people use for this city. People know where places like London are, but it is not likely they know where Valparaíso is. My guess would have been Italy. <a href="/wiki/User:Vegaswikian" title="User:Vegaswikian">Vegaswikian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T00:03:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T00:03:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T00:03:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-18T23:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span>It's mostly true for cities in the USA and Canada, not for major cities in the rest of the Americas (<a href="/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn" title="Medellín">Medellín</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tegucigalpa" title="Tegucigalpa">Tegucigalpa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Acapulco" title="Acapulco">Acapulco</a>, <a href="/wiki/Salvador,_Brazil" class="mw-redirect" title="Salvador, Brazil">Salvador</a>, <a href="/wiki/Santa_Cruz_de_la_Sierra" title="Santa Cruz de la Sierra">Santa Cruz de la Sierra</a>). Can I suggest a listing on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">WP:RM</a>, get a broader set of opinions? <a href="/wiki/User:Hajor" title="User:Hajor">–<i>Hajor</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T05:11:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z"></span>I voted against that since I thought that discussing it here could explain why it might not be a wise move. Placing the request on that page kind of rules out a simple question and answer session. If the page stays, then someone will need to cleanup those redirects over time. I wonder if the right direction is to move the article to <a href="/wiki/Valpara%C3%ADso,_Chile" class="mw-redirect" title="Valparaíso, Chile">Valparaíso, Chile</a> and leave a redirect at <a href="/wiki/Valpara%C3%ADso" title="Valparaíso">Valparaíso</a>, assuming that anything needs to be done. <a href="/wiki/User:Vegaswikian" title="User:Vegaswikian">Vegaswikian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T05:11:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T05:11:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T05:11:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T03:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span>I still think <a href="/wiki/Valpara%C3%ADso" title="Valparaíso">Valparaíso</a> is the correct location, per the convention used for other cities in the same part of the world (indeed, just about all the world except those few countries where "City Name comma Subnational Entity") is used as a form of pre-emptive disambiguation). Also, as a major city (3rd biggest in the country; global fame going back a couple of centuries -- port of call for just about every ship rounding the Horn in pre-Canal days), this article is the primary topic for this title, and so deserves this location, as explained on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Page_naming" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Page_naming</a>. If we can agree on that, I'd be more than happy to fix the redirects. <a href="/wiki/User:Hajor" title="User:Hajor">–<i>Hajor</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T18:51:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z"></span>I kind of expected that would be the case. I guess the redirects will need to be fixed. Thanks all for the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Vegaswikian" title="User:Vegaswikian">Vegaswikian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T18:51:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T18:51:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T18:51:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T14:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span>Sure. Interesting dialogue (and, as such, could probably have benefited from other voices -- no one else has this on their watchlist?), and a good outcome. I'll have a look at those redirs now. <a href="/wiki/User:Hajor" title="User:Hajor">–<i>Hajor</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T22:48:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z"></span>I suspect that it is not on a lot of watch lists. Many people add a pointer for all of the ships that stopped here when it was a major resupply point. However they probably have no real interest and don't follow the page. Interest seems a tad sparse in a lot of articles these days. I'm trying to establish an airlines project and I'm still the only one really using it even though others seem to be interested in airlines. Maybe this wiki has gotten too large? <a href="/wiki/User:Vegaswikian" title="User:Vegaswikian">Vegaswikian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T22:48:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T22:48:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vegaswikian-2005-07-19T22:48:00.000Z-Hajor-2005-07-19T22:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hajor-2005-07-20T06:16:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span>Insane</i> number of U.S. warships, and not much else. Maybe you're right. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Hajor" title="User:Hajor">–<i>Hajor</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Hajor-2005-07-20T06:16:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:16, 20 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hajor-2005-07-20T06:16:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hajor-2005-07-20T06:16:00.000Z-Vegaswikian-2005-07-18T22:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p>destiny </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Novia_del_Pacífico" data-mw-thread-id="h-Novia_del_Pacífico-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z"><span id="Novia_del_Pac.C3.ADfico"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Novia_del_Pacífico-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z"></span>Novia del Pacífico<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Novia_del_Pacífico-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Novia del Pacífico"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-200.89.48.49-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z-Novia_del_Pacífico"></span>The accurate translation of "novia del pacífico" to english would be "ocean's bride" not "sweethart". Besides that, some mention should be made to the recent butane pipe accident that occurred this year and damaged the city's most traditional area.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:200.89.48.49&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:200.89.48.49 (page does not exist)">200.89.48.49</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-200.89.48.49-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z-Novia_del_Pacífico" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-200.89.48.49-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z-Novia_del_Pacífico"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-200.89.48.49-2007-05-05T20:53:00.000Z-Novia_del_Pacífico"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Logo_on_the_bottom_of_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Logo_on_the_bottom_of_page"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Logo_on_the_bottom_of_page"></span>Logo on the bottom of page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Logo_on_the_bottom_of_page"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Logo on the bottom of page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I think something should be done about the race logo at the bottom of the page, it is mis-formatted and covers the "see also" section of the page. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data" data-mw-thread-id="h-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z"></span>There is something insanely wrong with the climate data<span data-mw-comment-end="h-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: There is something insanely wrong with the climate data"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data"></span>I think that the annual climate variation data are meant to be in degrees farenheit, but have incorrectly been listed as degrees celsius. Otherwise, temperatures in Valparaíso would exceed 111 degrees celsius in the summer - a temperature that would surely kill the entire population and boil any standing water. This can't be right... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.230.75.213" title="Special:Contributions/71.230.75.213">71.230.75.213</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.230.75.213&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.230.75.213 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z-There_is_something_insanely_wrong_with_the_climate_data"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-2010-08-06T02:57:00.000Z-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z"></span>The first figure in the climate chart is the rainfall in millimetres, and the second two are the maximum and minimum temperatures, respectively. Also, Valparaíso is in the southern hemisphere, so July is the middle of winter there. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color:green;">87</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Graham87-2010-08-06T02:57:00.000Z-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-2010-08-06T02:57:00.000Z-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-2010-08-06T02:57:00.000Z-71.230.75.213-2010-07-11T17:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Importance_of_railways_to_the_city" data-mw-thread-id="h-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Importance of railways to the city<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Importance of railways to the city"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city"></span>Hello, I quickly read the article from here and there, and I noticed that there is no mention, or at least I did not notice, about railways. I had understood that railways have been of great importance to the city, its development, growth and econonomy I presume during the 19th and 20th century. There was or still is a railway extending from <a href="/wiki/Buenos_Aires" title="Buenos Aires">Buenos Aires</a>, Argentina to this very city - Valparaiso was or is the other end of the railway on the Pacific Ocean. This is the <a href="/wiki/Transandine_railway" class="mw-redirect" title="Transandine railway">Transandine railway</a>. I suppose, that it became economically profitable, less expensive, to use railways than transportion via the Magellan Strait by ships at some point. Maybe trains were really the preferred mode of transportation, because ships were small in the late 1800s and in the beginning of 1900s, also the distance was shorter by train. I wish someone could incorporate the railway aspect to the history and economy sections of the article, because Valparaiso is not just a major port, but a major terminal or start point of a major railway (or at least was in history). --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.157.12.243" title="Special:Contributions/91.157.12.243">91.157.12.243</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:91.157.12.243&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:91.157.12.243 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z-Importance_of_railways_to_the_city"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-17T07:04:00.000Z-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z"></span>If someone wants to research the history, I just got a thought that the ships used at that time were probably <a href="/wiki/Sailing_ship" title="Sailing ship">sailing ships</a>, because <a href="/wiki/Steamboat" title="Steamboat">steamboats</a> were a recent invention that did not catch on everywhere in a sudden - especially ocean-going steamboats took time to develop. It might have been so, that sailing ships were used to navigate the Magellan strait well into the 1900s and if this was the case, then railways were competitive and preferred. --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.157.12.243" title="Special:Contributions/91.157.12.243">91.157.12.243</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:91.157.12.243&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:91.157.12.243 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-17T07:04:00.000Z-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-17T07:04:00.000Z-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-91.157.12.243-2012-09-17T07:04:00.000Z-91.157.12.243-2012-09-16T06:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Air_quality?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Air_quality?-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z"><span id="Air_quality.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Air_quality?-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Air quality?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Air_quality?-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Air quality?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ocdcntx-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z-Air_quality?"></span>How is the air quality? How polluting is the transit? In the winter, do people directly burn coal or wood in stoves? How are the homes heated? How is power generated? Are there any green energy sources? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ocdcntx&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ocdcntx (page does not exist)">Ocdcntx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ocdcntx" title="User talk:Ocdcntx">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ocdcntx" title="Special:Contributions/Ocdcntx">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso#c-Ocdcntx-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z-Air_quality?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ocdcntx-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z-Air_quality?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ocdcntx-2015-04-29T22:41:00.000Z-Air_quality?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barrio_Puerto" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barrio_Puerto-2017-06-10T01:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barrio_Puerto-2017-06-10T01:24:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Barrio_Puerto" title="Barrio Puerto">Barrio Puerto</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barrio_Puerto-2017-06-10T01:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valpara%C3%ADso&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Barrio Puerto"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaroleHenson-2017-06-10T01:24:00.000Z-Barrio_Puerto"></span>A new article was created, Barrio Puerto, and I am trying to find some information in English about it. 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