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अट्दैनन् । यिनै असन्तुष्टिहरू हुन् ।</p><p><br><b>अर्को पक्षले नेकपा सचिवालयले निर्णय गर्ने क्षमता गुमायो, त्यसकारण विघटन गरौँ भन्न थालेका छन् नि ?</b></p><p><br>भावना पवित्र नभएकाले जे पनि भन्ने भए । त्यसो भए पार्टी नै विघटन गर्दा भइहाल्यो । </p><p><br><b>तपाईंका मान्छेहरू त स्थायी समिति नै विघटन गरौँ पनि भन्न थालेका छन् त ?</b></p><p><br>त्यसो भए, सचिवालय र स्थायी समिति पनि विघटन गरौँ । दुइटा अध्यक्षले पार्टी एकता गरेको हो । उहाँहरूले नै चलाउनुहुन्छ । काम छैन अनि विवाद गरेर बसेका छन् ।</p><p><br><b>सचिवालयकै कारण स्थायी समिति भूमिकाविहीन भएको त सत्य हो नि ?</b></p><p><br>३–४ महिनाअघि बैठक बसेकै थियो । कसरी भूमिकाविहीन भन्नु । विश्वभर कोरोनाको यत्रो महामारी छ । एकाध महिना ढिला हुँदा धर्ती पल्टियो भन्ने केही छैन ।</p><p><br><b>धुम्बाराहीमा भेला भएर आफैँ एजेन्डा तयार गर्नु अराजकता हो ?</b></p><p><br>पार्टी अनुशासनको कुरा बैठक बसेपछि उठ्छ । त्यहाँ राख्नुपर्छ । अरूले पार्टीको संस्थागत निर्णय मानेन भनेर विधिको कुरा गर्नेले आफूले अनुशासन कति पालना गरेको छु, कति संस्थागत निर्णय गरेको छु भनेर हेर्नु पर्दैन ? संसारभरका प्रतिक्रियावादीहरूले ओली नेतृत्वको सरकार बनेपछि पचाएका छैनन् । पश्चिमा र छिमेकका पनि नेपाल क्रीडास्थल हो । सबैले अस्थिरता निम्त्याएर देशलाई संकटमा लैजान चाहन्छन् । यो कुरा यत्रो आरोहअवरोह पार गरेर आएका स्थायी समितिका साथीहरू र नेताहरूले नबुझेजस्तो लाग्छ । ठीक छ, पार्टीमा समस्या छ भने हामीले समाधान गर्नैपर्छ । यसरी त हुँदैन नि ।</p><p><br><b>तपाईंले नेकपाका असन्तुष्ट स्थायी समिति सदस्यहरू जानेर/नजानेर अन्य प्रभावमा परे भन्न खोज्नुभएको हो ?</b></p><p><br>त्यसरी त किन भनौँ र ? तर उहाँहरूको क्रियाकलाप जे छ, त्यो अहिलेको समग्र सरकारसँग मतलब छैन ।</p></p> </section><section class="story-section section"><div class="also-read-block pt-4 my-5"><div class="row no-gutters"><div class="col-md-2"><p class="lead font-weight-bold">यो पनि पढ्नुस</p></div><div class="col-md-10"><article class="article-image pop-news-block mb-4 p-4 position-relative bg-secondary clearfix"><div class="image image-sm image-sm-85 float-sm-left mr-3"><figure><a 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? तर धेरै कोठे बैठक भए ।</p><p><br><b>प्रधानमन्त्री ओली किन ब्याक भए त २० वैशाखको सहमतिबाट ?</b></p><p><br>कसले भन्छन्, केपी ओली ब्याक भएको ? जसलाई एजेन्डा तयार गर्न जिम्मा दिइएको हो, उसलै तयार नगरेपछि ओलीलाई किन दोष ? बैठकको विषयवस्तु के हो, त्यो पहिला प्रस्ट हुनु पर्दैन ?</p><p><br><b>स्थायी समितिको एजेन्डा तय गर्न खोज्दा दुई अध्यक्षको कुरा नमिलेको त हो नि ?</b></p><p><br>कसले भन्छ, दुई अध्यक्षको कुरा मिलेन भनेर ? भन्नेहरूले भन्दै गर्छन् ।</p><p><br><b>एक पद, एक जिम्मेवारी त पार्टी विधानकै कुरा हो । त्यति मान्न ओलीलाई किन यति गाह्रो ?</b></p><p><br>त्यो कहाँ हुन्छ ? हाम्रा धेरै नेताहरू दोहोरोतेहोरो पदमा छन् । केपी ओलीको मात्रै होइन । त्यसो भए, पार्टीको जिम्मा पनि लिने अनि सांसद पनि हुने भन्ने हुन्छ ? दुईमध्ये एक मात्रै हो भने, कि सांसद छाड्नुपर्यो कि पार्टीको जिम्मेवारी छाड्नुपर्यो । त्यसमा तयार हो ? यो सब बकम्फुसे कुरा हो । </p></p> </section><div class="link-tags pt-2 pb-3"><ul class="m-0 p-0"><li><a href="/tag/ncp">नेकपा</a></li><li><a href="/tag/kpoli">केपी 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