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</li> <li id="toc-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>Infobox (Vila dels USA; Volcan)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Help_translation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Help_translation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>Help translation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Help_translation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-How_to_say" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#How_to_say"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tolosan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tolosan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Tolosan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Tolosan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Luishonés/Frontonés" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Luishonés/Frontonés"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Luishonés/Frontonés</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Luishonés/Frontonés-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Demonims_americans" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Demonims_americans"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Demonims americans</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Demonims_americans-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Cossí se ditz...? / How to say...?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gentilici_de_Boise" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gentilici_de_Boise"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Gentilici de Boise</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Gentilici_de_Boise-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Borough" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Borough"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Borough</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Borough-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Grand_Canyon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Grand_Canyon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Grand Canyon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Grand_Canyon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Annulacion_Lengadòc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Annulacion_Lengadòc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Annulacion Lengadòc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Annulacion_Lengadòc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aquitània_e_Guiana" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aquitània_e_Guiana"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Aquitània e Guiana</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Aquitània_e_Guiana-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Traduccion del tèxte del site</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Nom vernacular d'Araucaria heterophylla</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Lo tèrme "fog drip"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Frontinhas,_etc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Frontinhas,_etc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Frontinhas, etc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Frontinhas,_etc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Traduccions_californianas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Traduccions_californianas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Traduccions californianas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Traduccions_californianas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Entre Arpitània e Occitània... (Comunas del Dalfinat sul wiki arpitan)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-San_Gregorio" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#San_Gregorio"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>San Gregorio</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-San_Gregorio-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Yankee_Doodle" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Yankee_Doodle"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Yankee Doodle</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Yankee_Doodle-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Mesa a jorn de las comunas...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Commune_Updates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Commune_Updates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Commune Updates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Commune_Updates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Redaccion_comunas_occitanas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Redaccion comunas occitanas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-chat_en_occitan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#chat_en_occitan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>chat en occitan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-chat_en_occitan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Toponims de la Charanta Lemosina</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Autafaia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Autafaia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Autafaia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Autafaia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Qualques_detalhs_tecnics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Qualques detalhs tecnics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Correccions-AWB" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Correccions-AWB"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Correccions-AWB</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Correccions-AWB-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Iniciativas_personalas_?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Iniciativas_personalas_?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Iniciativas personalas ?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Iniciativas_personalas_?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Internacionala_Progressista" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Internacionala_Progressista"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Internacionala Progressista</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Internacionala_Progressista-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Règlas_d'accentuacion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Règlas_d'accentuacion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Règlas d'accentuacion</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Règlas_d'accentuacion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Luriec_e_la_lista..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Luriec_e_la_lista..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Luriec e la lista...</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Luriec_e_la_lista...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Genres e articles trobadorencs</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Universal_Code_of_Conduct" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Universal_Code_of_Conduct"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Universal Code of Conduct</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Universal_Code_of_Conduct-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-We_sent_you_an_e-mail" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#We_sent_you_an_e-mail"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>We sent you an e-mail</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Rejoignez d’autres membres de la communauté Occitane</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hi_Brennod" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hi_Brennod"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Hi Brennod</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Hi_Brennod-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Junh" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Junh"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Junh</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Junh-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Veir" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Veir"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Veir</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Veir-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Engolmés_en_Dordonha" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Engolmés_en_Dordonha"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Engolmés en Dordonha</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Engolmés_en_Dordonha-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hello/Adieu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hello/Adieu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Hello/Adieu</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Hello/Adieu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Clen" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Clen"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Clen</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Clen-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Paul,_Pau_e_Pal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Paul, Pau e Pal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Toponimia dels païses occitans</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Nom de « Sent Antèma »</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toponimia_de_Cantal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toponimia_de_Cantal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Toponimia de Cantal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Toponimia_de_Cantal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-lemosin_ancian" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#lemosin_ancian"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>lemosin ancian</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-lemosin_ancian-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Adiu_Bren" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Adiu_Bren"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Adiu Bren</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Adiu_Bren-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Maçanas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Maçanas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Maçanas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Maçanas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Farilhon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Farilhon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Farilhon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Farilhon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Irai_&_Anc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Irai_&_Anc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Irai & Anc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Irai_&_Anc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Usès" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Usès"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Usès</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Usès-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Voltona_e_Vau_Seror"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Voltona e Vau Seror</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-St_Maurici" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#St_Maurici"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>St Maurici</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-St_Maurici-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Empúrias" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Empúrias"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Empúrias</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Empúrias-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ménigoute" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ménigoute"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>Ménigoute</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Ménigoute-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Farilhon2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Farilhon2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Farilhon2</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Farilhon2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hello" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hello"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Hello</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Hello-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Lesinhan de la Ceba</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Estatal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Estatal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Estatal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Estatal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Beunas_/_Bèunos" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Beunas_/_Bèunos"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Beunas / Bèunos</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Beunas_/_Bèunos-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toponimia_forestièra" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toponimia_forestièra"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>Toponimia forestièra</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Toponimia_forestièra-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mohet_>_Moët" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mohet_>_Moët"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Mohet > Moët</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Mohet_>_Moët-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Trabalhs inedits / No personal research</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comentari</span> <ul id="toc-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Cònsol ≠ Cònse; Emb ≠ Embé</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nom_de_Lòdi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nom_de_Lòdi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Nom de Lòdi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Nom_de_Lòdi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Montmorenci_paroxiton" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Montmorenci_paroxiton"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Montmorenci paroxiton</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Montmorenci_paroxiton-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-La_Gàrdia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#La_Gàrdia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>La Gàrdia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-La_Gàrdia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Minusculas per los noms de monedas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comentaris</span> <ul id="toc-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div class="mw-content-container"> <main id="content" class="mw-body"> <header class="mw-body-header vector-page-titlebar"> <nav aria-label="Somari" class="vector-toc-landmark"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-titlebar-toc vector-button-flush-left" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Commuta la taula de continguts." > <label id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-label" for="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-listBullet mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-listBullet"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Commuta la taula de continguts.</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> </div> </div> </div> </nav> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Discussion Utilizaire</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Briantin de Montrei</span></h1> <div id="p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown mw-portlet mw-portlet-lang mw-portlet-lang-icon-only" > <input type="checkbox" id="p-lang-btn-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox mw-interlanguage-selector-empty" aria-label="Aquest article només existeix en aquesta llengua. 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Pasmens, siáu pas segur de la scientificitat d'aqueu tèrme car la nocion d'activitat es generalament liada a l'occuréncia d'una erupcion durant lei 10 000 ans passats. Segon aquela definicion, lo mont Hood (darriera erupcion dins lo corrent dau sègle XIX) es donc actiu. Es qu'avètz una fònt scientifica que precisa aqueu tèrme ? Dins lo cas contrari, pensi que fau tornar venir a la version « volcan actiu ». Coralament, --<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Nicolas_Eynaud" title="Utilizaire:Nicolas Eynaud">Nicolas Eynaud</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Nicolas_Eynaud" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Nicolas Eynaud">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Nicolas_Eynaud-2019-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Volcan_«_potencialament_actiu_»" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">7 març de 2019 a 13.24 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nicolas_Eynaud-2019-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Volcan_«_potencialament_actiu_»"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nicolas_Eynaud-2019-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Volcan_«_potencialament_actiu_»"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z"><span id="Infobox_.28Vila_dels_USA.3B_Volcan.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z"></span>Infobox (Vila dels USA; Volcan)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=2" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Infobox (Vila dels USA; Volcan)"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)"></span>Adieusiatz. Mercé pel trabalh que fasètz aquí e per vòstre interés per la lenga occitana. Soi pas un especialista de las infobóstias que de còps que i a fan servir un lengatge pron complèxe, mas tre qu'aurai un pauc de temps liure ensajarai de veire se pòdi apondre aquelas modificacions. Coralament.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 març de 2019 a 12.41 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-03-13T12:41:00.000Z-Infobox_(Vila_dels_USA;_Volcan)"></span> </p><p>NB: Avètz cambiat lo títol de l'article <a href="/wiki/Lista_de_las_municipalitats_de_Calif%C3%B2rnia" title="Lista de las municipalitats de Califòrnia">Lista de las municipalitats de Califòrnia</a> en <a href="/wiki/Lista_dels_municipis_de_Calif%C3%B2rnia" class="mw-redirect" title="Lista dels municipis de Califòrnia">Lista dels municipis de Califòrnia</a>. Cal saupre que <i>municipi</i> es un mot del sosdialècte <a href="/wiki/Aran%C3%A9s" class="mw-redirect" title="Aranés">gascon aranés</a>. S'escrivètz en lengadocian, cal far servir lo mot <i>municipalitat</i>. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_translation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_translation-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_translation-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z"></span>Help translation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_translation-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=3" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Help translation"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricou31-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z-Help_translation"></span>I'm glad if i can help you, depending on the context but it could give something like: "From top to right" > Del naut en bas, "Half Moon Bay" > baia en mièja luna <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Ricou31" title="Utilizaire:Ricou31">Ricou31</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Ricou31" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Ricou31">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Ricou31-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z-Help_translation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 abril de 2019 a 18.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricou31-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z-Help_translation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricou31-2019-04-13T18:33:00.000Z-Help_translation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_to_say" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_say-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_to_say-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z"></span>How to say<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_to_say-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=4" title="Edita el codi de la secció: How to say"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z-How_to_say"></span>Hi/adieu. Personalitats que visquèron a... es una bona traduccion \ is a good translation. You can say too / Podes dire tanben: </p> <ul><li>Personalitats ligadas amb la vila</li> <li>Personalitats famosas</li> <li>Personalitats celèbras</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z-How_to_say" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15 abril de 2019 a 13.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z-How_to_say"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-04-15T13:07:00.000Z-How_to_say"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ço_/_contrarotlar" data-mw-thread-id="h-ço_/_contrarotlar-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z"><span id=".C3.A7o_.2F_contrarotlar"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ço_/_contrarotlar-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z"></span>ço / contrarotlar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ço_/_contrarotlar-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=5" title="Edita el codi de la secció: ço / contrarotlar"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z-ço_/_contrarotlar"></span>1/ çò is a preposition (variant cò) </p> <ul><li>a çò de / en çò de (like the french <i>chez</i>)</li></ul> <p>ex: </p> <pre> Vau a çò meu/mieu I am going home. (literally, “I am going to mine.”) </pre> <p>at, in (any specified location) </p> <pre> en çò mieu ― at my house (literally, “at mine”) en çò sieu— at his house (literally, “at his”) en çò de Guilhèm — at Guilhèm’s </pre> <pre> çò meu : what belongs to me çò nòstre : what belongs to us çò melhor : the best çò bèl / çò grand: the big çò polit : the pretty </pre> <ul><li>çò que : what (like french <i>ce que</i>)</li></ul> <p>ex </p> <pre>çò qu'es segur: what is certain </pre> <p><br/> 2/contrarotlar : to check or to control </p><p><br/> 3/For you this link of an occitan grammar in english: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Occitan/Grammar/index.html">[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z-ço_/_contrarotlar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 abril de 2019 a 11.43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z-ço_/_contrarotlar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-04-17T11:43:00.000Z-ço_/_contrarotlar"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="farallón/faralló/faraglione" data-mw-thread-id="h-farallón/faralló/faraglione-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z"><span id="farall.C3.B3n.2Ffarall.C3.B3.2Ffaraglione"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-farallón/faralló/faraglione-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z"></span>farallón/faralló/faraglione<span data-mw-comment-end="h-farallón/faralló/faraglione-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=6" title="Edita el codi de la secció: farallón/faralló/faraglione"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z-farallón/faralló/faraglione"></span>Adieusiatz. Après una brèva recerca pensi pas qu'existisca en occitan un mot equivalent. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z-farallón/faralló/faraglione" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 abril de 2019 a 19.23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z-farallón/faralló/faraglione"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z-farallón/faralló/faraglione"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-23T10:51:00.000Z-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z"></span>Podem pas crear un mot non atestat en occitan a partir d'un mot catalan. Pensi que la solucion melhora seriá la traduccion "esperon d'erosion marina".<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-04-23T10:51:00.000Z-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 abril de 2019 a 10.51 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-23T10:51:00.000Z-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-04-23T10:51:00.000Z-Jiròni-2019-04-20T19:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tolosan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tolosan-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tolosan-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Tolosan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tolosan-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=7" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Tolosan"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z-Tolosan"></span>Adieu. T'ai trobat aquela mapa en format PDF aquí: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=pays+toulousain">[2]</a>, a pays toulousain-CAUE; Los limits d'aqueles parçans son pas totjorn fòrça precises, d'unas comunas coma <a href="/wiki/Riumas" title="Riumas">Riumas</a> o <a href="/wiki/Sent_Lis" title="Sent Lis">Sent Lis</a> semblan d'èsser segon las fonts, a l'encòp en <a href="/wiki/Sav%C3%A9s" title="Savés">Savés</a> e en <a href="/wiki/Tolosan" title="Tolosan">Tolosan</a>. Ai tanben completat l'article <a href="/wiki/Tolosan" title="Tolosan">Tolosan</a> d'après aquelas informacions. Coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z-Tolosan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 abril de 2019 a 19.31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z-Tolosan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-04-27T19:31:00.000Z-Tolosan"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Luishonés/Frontonés" data-mw-thread-id="h-Luishonés/Frontonés-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z"><span id="Luishon.C3.A9s.2FFronton.C3.A9s"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Luishonés/Frontonés-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z"></span>Luishonés/Frontonés<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Luishonés/Frontonés-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=8" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Luishonés/Frontonés"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z-Luishonés/Frontonés"></span> Adieu. D'après aquela mapa, sembla que lo Luishonés (region a l'entorn de Banhèra de Luishon) faga partit del <a href="/wiki/Comenge" title="Comenge">Comenge</a> </p><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fichi%C3%A8r:Carte_du_Comminges.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Carte_du_Comminges.svg/200px-Carte_du_Comminges.svg.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="185" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Carte_du_Comminges.svg/300px-Carte_du_Comminges.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Carte_du_Comminges.svg/400px-Carte_du_Comminges.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="840" data-file-height="777"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> L'article francés Comminges <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comminges">[3]</a> confirma que Banhèra de Luishon es en Comenge. </p><p>Pe çò qu'es del Frontonés pensi que nos podem fisar a l'aira de la Comunautat de comuna del frontonés, aquí <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communaut%C3%A9_de_communes_du_Frontonnais">[4]</a>. Coralament.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z-Luishonés/Frontonés" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 mai de 2019 a 12.03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z-Luishonés/Frontonés"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-05-01T12:03:00.000Z-Luishonés/Frontonés"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Demonims_americans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Demonims_americans-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Demonims_americans-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z"></span>Demonims americans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Demonims_americans-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=9" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Demonims americans"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z-Demonims_americans"></span>Adieu, There are many ways to form demonyms in Occitan. First of all, a general rule: demonyms NEVER take an initial uppercase. The people from <i>Occitània</i> are <i>occitanas</i> and <i>occitans</i> (and speak <i>occitan</i> without uppercase either). </p> <ul><li>NW of Occitania: the placename IS the demonym (but change according to feminine and number). People from Nontronh (Nontron) are <i>nontronhas</i> and <i>nontronhs</i>.</li> <li>Elsewhere, many suffixes are in use. <ul><li>-òl, òla, -òls, -òlas: Masamet, masametòl; Paulinet, paulinetòl...</li> <li>-és, -esa, -és (or -eses), -esas: Agen, agenés; Sarlat, sarladés; Albi, albigés</li> <li>-èu, -èa, -èus, -èas: Euròpa, europèu</li> <li>-enc, -enca: lei Bauç, baucenc; Arle, arlatenc (latin Arelate)</li> <li>-art, -arda/-arta: Niça, niçart</li> <li>-in, -ina: Pau, paulin</li> <li>-an, -ana: Ais, sestian (Aix en Provence, in latin Aquae Sextiae, sestian comes from Sextiae)</li> <li>-at, -ata: Auvèrnhe, auvernhat</li> <li>-às, -assa: Roergue, roergàs</li> <li>-al (var. -au), -ala (var. -au): Grècia, gregau (provençal)</li></ul></li></ul> <p>My recommendation is to add any suffix, and if the result is always looking/sounding odd, to use the NW solution (use the place name as demonym). For instance, I'd use: los "los Angeles", los ciscans or los friscans (San Francisco), los sandiegos, los sacramentos, los fresnos, los seattles, los austinés/eses/los austins, los oklahomés/eses, los californians/californencs, los oregonés/oregoneses (analogy with Aragon), los dacotencs (Dakota, analogy with Canada/canadenc), los verginencs (the adjective already exists for Virgin Mary related things), los floridencs, los loïsianés/eses, los alabameses... --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z-Demonims_americans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 mai de 2019 a 09.04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z-Demonims_americans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2019-05-12T09:04:00.000Z-Demonims_americans"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z"><span id="Coss.C3.AD_se_ditz....3F_.2F_How_to_say....3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z"></span>Cossí se ditz...? / How to say...?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=10" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Cossí se ditz...? / How to say...?"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?"></span>Adieu! weekday = jorn obrat <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 mai de 2019 a 11.00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-05-29T11:00:00.000Z-Cossí_se_ditz...?_/_How_to_say...?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gentilici_de_Boise" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gentilici_de_Boise"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gentilici_de_Boise"></span>Gentilici de Boise<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gentilici_de_Boise"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=11" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Gentilici de Boise"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Adieu. Boisenc o boisés sonan l'un coma l'autre plan en occitan, mas coma son pas atestats per l'usatge, lo melhor seriá benlèu de far figurar las doas formas en metent una * après, <i>boisenc</i>* o <i>boisés</i>* ; es un biais de senhalar al lector que son de formas supausadas. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) 12 de junh de de 2019 a 17.55 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Borough" data-mw-thread-id="h-Borough"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Borough"></span>Borough<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Borough"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=12" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Borough"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi BrennodAloisi. It was just a speeling mistake! Thank you.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) 23 de junh de de 2019 a 12.45 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Grand_Canyon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Grand_Canyon-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Grand_Canyon-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Grand Canyon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Grand_Canyon-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=13" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Grand Canyon"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z-Grand_Canyon"></span>Adieu BrennodAloisi. Es ieu qu'aviái escrit los articles <a href="/wiki/Grand_Canyon" class="mw-redirect" title="Grand Canyon">Grand Canyon</a> e <a href="/wiki/Colorado_(riu)" class="mw-redirect" title="Colorado (riu)">Colorado (riu)</a>. Pasmens existís sul diccionari gascon Per Noste una adaptacion del mot en occitan "canhòn" <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.locongres.org/fr/applications/dicodoc-fr/dicodoc-recherche?type=fr-oc&dic%5B%5D=BASIC&dic%5B%5D=RBVD&dic%5B%5D=ALPC&dic%5B%5D=ATAU&dic%5B%5D=PROV&dic%5B%5D=PNST&dic%5B%5D=OMLH&dic%5B%5D=LAUS&dic%5B%5D=LAGA&dic%5B%5D=LEMO&q=canyon&q2=&submit=Rechercher">[5]</a> que ieu coneissiái pas. Doncas sabi pas tròp cossí t'aconselhar aquí, las doas ortografias son possiblas e siás liure d'escriure coma t'agradaràs una o l'autra . Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z-Grand_Canyon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 julhet de 2019 a 11.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z-Grand_Canyon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-07-17T11:46:00.000Z-Grand_Canyon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Annulacion_Lengadòc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Annulacion_Lengadòc-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z"><span id="Annulacion_Lengad.C3.B2c"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Annulacion_Lengadòc-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z"></span>Annulacion Lengadòc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Annulacion_Lengadòc-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=14" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Annulacion Lengadòc"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z-Annulacion_Lengadòc"></span>Adieu, BrennodAloisi. Ai supausat que, probable, aviatz pas previsualizat. Lo drapèu es enòrme e ocupa la mitat de la pagina ! Ara, se vos agrada atal... mès pensavi qu'èra una error involontària. Excusatz. </p><p>English with Google translate : I assumed you had not previewed, probably. The flag is huge and occupies half of the page. That said, if you liked it like that ... but I thought it was an unintentional mistake. Sorry. </p><p>Coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z-Annulacion_Lengadòc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 julhet de 2019 a 07.55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z-Annulacion_Lengadòc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z-Annulacion_Lengadòc"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T08:20:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z"></span>Auriái degut vos avertir abans ! Excusatz encara. I should have warned you before. Sorry again.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T08:20:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 julhet de 2019 a 08.20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T08:20:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T08:20:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-07-18T07:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aquitània_e_Guiana" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aquitània_e_Guiana-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z"><span id="Aquit.C3.A0nia_e_Guiana"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aquitània_e_Guiana-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Aquitània e Guiana<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aquitània_e_Guiana-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=15" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Aquitània e Guiana"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana"></span>Adieu. Dins l'istòria del Reialme de França, la region se nomenèt a de reng, Aquitània, <a href="/wiki/Ducat_d%27Aquit%C3%A0nia" title="Ducat d'Aquitània">Ducat d'Aquitània</a>, <a href="/wiki/Guiana" title="Guiana">Guiana</a>. Benlèu seriá plan de desvolopar l'article en tot lo tornar plaçar dins lo contèxte istoric per far lo ligam amb los autres articles. Encara de trabalh! <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 julhet de 2019 a 18.09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-07-19T18:09:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-07-28T11:47:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana"></span>A, non, quora disi per "per far lo ligam", vòli pas dire far una redireccion, mas desvolopar lo tèxte de l'article especialament d'un biais istoric. T'aconselhi de veire l'article en francés Royaume de France<a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royaume_de_France">[6]</a> ont i a plusors mapas que permeton de veire l'existéncia d'Aquitània dins la cronologia istorica. En resumit, pensi que cal gardar l'article e lo desvolopar, mas pas far de redireccion. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>)</dd></dl> <p>ÑB: Sorry to speak to you only en occitan, but my english is very basic </p> <dl><dd>Google trad:</dd></dl> <p>No, what do I say for "linking", I do not want to say a redirect, but to develop the item's article, especially in a historical way. You are advised to see the article in French Royaume de France [6] where are maps that allow you to see the existence of Aquitania in the historical chronology. In summary, I think you have to save the article and develop it, but do not redirect it. </p> <dl><dd>Adieu. Ai ensajat de melhorar un pauc ton introduccion de l'article Aquitània, mas demòra encara fòrça trabalh de desvolopament.</dd> <dd>I tried to develop a bit of your introduction to the article Aquitaine, but there is still a lot of work of devellopement</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-07-28T11:47:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28 julhet de 2019 a 11.47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-07-28T11:47:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-07-28T11:47:00.000Z-Aquitània_e_Guiana"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site" data-mw-thread-id="h-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z"><span id="Traduccion_del_t.C3.A8xte_del_site"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z"></span>Traduccion del tèxte del site<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=16" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Traduccion del tèxte del site"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site"></span>Adieu. Pensi que l'interfàcia de Wikipèdia es accessibla unicament als administrators, te cal benlèu demandar a Nicolas Eynaud o JF Blanc. Per las parts en catalan, cresi que son traduchas automaticament per Wikimedia que lo sistèma sap pas destriar catalan e occitan. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 agost de 2019 a 13.54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-08-04T13:54:00.000Z-Traduccion_del_tèxte_del_site"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z"><span id="Nom_vernacular_d.27Araucaria_heterophylla"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z"></span>Nom vernacular d'Araucaria heterophylla<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=17" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Nom vernacular d'Araucaria heterophylla"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla"></span>Adieu. Pensi que i a pas de nom vernacular en occitan per aquela espècia pauc comuna, Pin de Norfolk o Auraucaria de Norfolk me semblan de bonas solucions.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 agost de 2019 a 17.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-08-16T17:46:00.000Z-Nom_vernacular_d'Araucaria_heterophylla"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z"><span id="Lo_t.C3.A8rme_.22fog_drip.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z"></span>Lo tèrme "fog drip"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=18" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Lo tèrme "fog drip""><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip""></span>Hi, occitan translation for fog drip is "esgotament de nebla". <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 agost de 2019 a 10.56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-08-17T10:56:00.000Z-Lo_tèrme_"fog_drip""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Frontinhas,_etc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Frontinhas,_etc-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z"><span id="Frontinhas.2C_etc"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Frontinhas,_etc-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z"></span>Frontinhas, etc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Frontinhas,_etc-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=19" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Frontinhas, etc"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z-Frontinhas,_etc"></span>Bonjorn. D'après çò qu'ai legit i auriá un « Frontinhas e Bavartés ». Dejà, aquò fariá dos parçans/ païses/encontradas. Problèma : qu'es aquò lo Bavartés ? Fòra de doás o tres fonts militantas, i a pas res. Ai cercat « Bavartois, Bavartés » en francés. Res ! Los occitanistas an una tissa, qu'es de definir a cada còp un parçan/un país/ una encontrada. Solament, lo problèma es que los critèris son nombroses e contradictòris. Veni d'acabar un article sul diocèsi de Comenge. Solament n'i a dos, Comenges : 1) la diocèsi de Comenge (sègle V-sègle XVIII) que compren una partida, sonque una partida del sud de la Nauta Garona (Hauta Garona en gascon), en gròs l'arrondiment de Sent Gaudenç, e lo sud-èst dels Nauts Pirenèus (Vath d'Aura per exemple); 2) lo comtat de Comenge, annexat en 1453 per la França, que supausi contunhat per l'eleccion de Comenge, qu'a pas la meteissa localizacion (sa capitala, Murèth, es pas dins la diocèsi). Dins un cas, una definicion religiosa, mès que correspond tanben a un pòble de l'Antiquitat, los <i>Convenae</i> (en latin); dins l'autre, una definicion feudala e (ancianament) administrativa. Me sembla que la primièra a mai de pés, pr'amor de sa longa continuïtat istorica, mès dins la practica, que far de la partida comtala, que demorariá sense apertenéncia, fòra de la Gasconha ? Parlem de l'Agenés, una nocion clara, en principi : la <i>civitas</i> dels Nitiobròges, contunhada per la diocèsi d'Agen. Solament, en 1317, lo papa ne faguèt doás diocèsis : la d'Agen, au nòrd de Garona, la de Condòm, al sud de Garona. Cal contunhar a plaçar la partida sud dins l'Agenés, o pas ? Personalament, diriá que si, quitament se sabi qu'a Condòm, en 1789-1790, los borgeses del país demandèron a èsser dins lo Gers (lo departament d'Aush) e non pas dins l'Òut e Garona, lo departament d'Agen (aicí, per l'Agenés, s'agís pas d'un parçan, segur). Mès vòli pas impausar ma causida a degun... Aquela mapa de las encontradas es un exemple de manca de rigor : o barreja tot, definicions etnico-religiosas, lingüisticas, de geografia fisica, de geografia umana (la tombada o zòna d'influéncia d'una vila, quitament de nocions viticòlas, coma lo Frontonés, las Gravas), províncias, nocions administrativas ancianas o modèrnas, etc. E tot aquò, de segur, a de limits diferents. Doncas, se cal causir, ven completament arbitrari. Justament, dins un Infobox, val mai evitar las causidas arbitràrias. Sense comptar ambe las dificultats de delimitacion d'aquelas unitats : tot lo monde accèpta la nocion de Volvèstre, mès degun es capable de dire ont s'arrèsta. Pel Savés, es mai o mens lo meteis problèma. Ai pas parlat de las micro-regions, coma aquel <i>Frontinhas e Bavartés</i>, o lo Seron o Seronés, zòna de transicion entre gascon e lengadocian e sense consisténcia istorica fòra d'aquò (mès i aviá lo canton de La Bastida de Seron). Encara aquelas micro-regions pòdon aver una existéncia istorica, coma lo Barçanés, lo país de Brana (mès cossí lo delimitar ?). Se pòt far (o pas) de cada canton, definit arbitràriament entre 1790 e 1801, un pichon país : los jornals parlan de l'Issigeacois (lo canton d'Issigeac = Sijac), del Duraquois (lo canton de Duràs), etc. Quand dintram dins aquela question, tombam dins lo difús, l'inconsistent, l'arbitrari, las interpretacions personalas (las confusions personalas, coma l'afar d'aquel contributor que placèt, per una rason inconeguda, Montespan e Gantias dins lo Coserans), etc. Aquí perqué cal la pus granda prudéncia dins aquelas questions. De còps, val mai daissar voida la casa <i>parçan</i> dins l'Infobox que de far creire que sabèm quand sabèm pas. Se malfisar de las fonts militantas occitanistas, de las classificacions anterioras dins Wikipèdia.oc, etc. Coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z-Frontinhas,_etc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 agost de 2019 a 12.13 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z-Frontinhas,_etc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-08-22T12:13:00.000Z-Frontinhas,_etc"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Traduccions_californianas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Traduccions_californianas-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Traduccions_californianas-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Traduccions californianas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Traduccions_californianas-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=20" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Traduccions californianas"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z-Traduccions_californianas"></span>Hi/Adieu. Per <i>San Francisco Bay Area</i>: L`Airal de la Baia de San Francisco sembla corrècte, sabent que <i>Metropolitan Area</i> se pòt traduire per Airal metropolitan, o zona metropolitana, o aira urbana o aglomeracion urbana. </p><p>Per çò qu'es de <i>Marin Headlands</i>, existís un mot en occitan pron emplegat dins la toponimia per designar un promotòri arredondit, qu'es "morre". Trobem per exemple "Lo Morre blanc" prèp de <a href="/wiki/Mesa" title="Mesa">Mesa</a> o "Lo Morre Negre" en <a href="/wiki/Leberon" title="Leberon">Leberon</a>. Doncas una possibilitat seriá benlèu "Los Morres marins". Una autra possibilitat es de daissar <i>Marin Headlands</i> en anglés coma o fa la wiki en francés.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z-Traduccions_californianas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 setembre de 2019 a 14.58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z-Traduccions_californianas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-09-01T14:58:00.000Z-Traduccions_californianas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z"><span id="Entre_Arpit.C3.A0nia_e_Occit.C3.A0nia..._.28Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z"></span>Entre Arpitània e Occitània... (Comunas del Dalfinat sul wiki arpitan)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=21" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Entre Arpitània e Occitània... (Comunas del Dalfinat sul wiki arpitan)"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)"></span>Good morning. I think everybody make progress when he agree there is a category "I do'nt know". But you can see for these villages the assert "o est pletout na comena arpetana nan pas occitana coment deséve Gaston Tuaillon". I do'nt know what is "pletout" but I understand <i> it's an arpetan municipality, not an occitan one</i>. Pèire Bèc write in "La langue occitane<i>, p. 9 "elle [boundary] passe entre Tain et Saint-Vallier~</i>; sure, he write also <i>entre Chabeuil et Bourg-de-Péage</i> (and others people assume that Bourg-de-Péage, Romans, etc, are occitan towns). These villages are, in the general opinion, arpetans (arpitans ?). Sure they may have transition features, but... Please do'nt change. An other punt : in Agenese municipalities, you change <i>puègs</i> en <i>puèges</i>; but in the local lengadocian this plural does not exist. Perhaps you see the contributor who write this and if this people is able to write in good occitan. Kind regards. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3 setembre de 2019 a 07.06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-09-03T07:06:00.000Z-Entre_Arpitània_e_Occitània..._(Comunas_del_Dalfinat_sul_wiki_arpitan)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="San_Gregorio" data-mw-thread-id="h-San_Gregorio-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-San_Gregorio-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z"></span>San Gregorio<span data-mw-comment-end="h-San_Gregorio-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=22" title="Edita el codi de la secció: San Gregorio"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z-San_Gregorio"></span>Adieu BrennodAloisi. Te faguèri la correccion de la seccion Istòria de San Gregoria. Amicalament.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z-San_Gregorio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 setembre de 2019 a 11.31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z-San_Gregorio"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-09-21T11:31:00.000Z-San_Gregorio"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yankee_Doodle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yankee_Doodle-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yankee_Doodle-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z"></span>Yankee Doodle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yankee_Doodle-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=23" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Yankee Doodle"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z-Yankee_Doodle"></span>Adieu BrennodAloisi, ai acabat la verificacion de Yankee Doodle. Amicalament.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z-Yankee_Doodle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 octobre de 2019 a 11.34 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z-Yankee_Doodle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2019-10-01T11:34:00.000Z-Yankee_Doodle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas...-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas...-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z"></span>Mesa a jorn de las comunas...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas...-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=24" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Mesa a jorn de las comunas..."><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..."></span>Adiu, BrennodAloisi. I think you had a good idea when you made the Occitània (Region) model and I also use it. You are right in indicating the old administrative regions, especially because they were more consistent than the new ones. The main problem is the model of the demographics graph that only works automatically for a short period, which stops in 2010 and contains an error: I suppose a municipality that has 260 inhabitants in 1962 and 250 in 1968. Automatically, the model gives it 240 inhabitants in 1962 (but if it has 250 inhabitants in 1962 and 260 in 1968, the model gives the true populations). It would take an excellent computer scientist to improve that. Should the introduction be homogeneous for all municipalities? I do not think so. I give you the example of the Agenais and Périgord, which respectively come from the people of the Nitiobroges and the diocese of Agen, on the one hand, from the Petrocori people and the diocese of Périgueux, on the other hand. In 1317, the pope divided the diocese of Agen into the diocese of Agen, for the north of the Garonne and into the diocese of Condom, to the south. He did the same with the diocese of Périgueux, divided into the diocese of Périgueux and the diocese of Sarlat. The difference ? there remains everywhere a consciousness of being of Périgord, even in the old diocese of Sarlat. On the other hand, the notion of Agenais is almost forgotten. Personally, I hesitate to write that a village near Condom is an Agenese municipality; but if someone wrote it, I let it. Another question: should we always write that X is a Occitan municipality? There is already the model of Infobox vila occitana, which works well except for the suppressed communes (it is better to use then the model Comuna de França). In certain regions, for scientifically acceptable reasons (Gascon) or not (Auvergne, Provence), some people refuse the notion of Occitania for their territory. We are an encyclopedia, not a militant site (but we have the right to be nationalists or not, for ourselves). So, I think it is not useless to multiply in the same article the words "Occitan", "Occitan", etc. We write in Occitan in classical writing, which they refuse. It's enough ! Translated with Google, with some corrections. Coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 octobre de 2019 a 11.54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-10-02T11:54:00.000Z-Mesa_a_jorn_de_las_comunas..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commune_Updates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commune_Updates-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commune_Updates-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z"></span>Commune Updates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commune_Updates-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=25" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Commune Updates"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xophe84-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"></span>Hi Bren, Life/work is a bit hectic here so I wouldn't be able to give a lot of time but I'm sure I could help a bit. I'd be most interested in covering an area with which I have a family connection. That would be Aude and the Occitan-speaking part of Pyrénées-Orientales then moving up to Tarn and Haute-Garonne, if that isn't too much. Just let me know exactly what needs doing. As for the spelling and grammar, I mostly go to locongres.org. I started off with panoccitan.org but found its dictionary a little eccentric in its choice of translations. I still sometimes use it for conjugations but Verbix mostly does the job. Other than that I use Apertium but, like all machine translators, the results require checking and editing. I hope I'm getting better but I always appreciate others putting me right. Any other useful resources you know of would also be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris (Xophe is short for Christophe). <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Xophe84" title="Utilizaire:Xophe84">Xophe84</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Xophe84" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Xophe84">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Xophe84-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z-Commune_Updates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 octobre de 2019 a 15.49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xophe84-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xophe84-2019-10-04T15:49:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T13:33:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"></span>Hi. I'm getting through <i>Fenolhedés</i>. Thank you for the corrections. Hope everything else I've been doing is OK. I initially tried to update the population data but couldn't figure out how to do it so I'm just leaving that. I've been updating the mayoral history too but I just had a question about this. Under the <i>Administracion</i> section most, but not all, list the most recent mayor at the top, whereas the french wiki does it the other way around. I just wondered what your thoughts on this are. I have no preference except that it would be better if we were consistent. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Xophe84" title="Utilizaire:Xophe84">Xophe84</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Xophe84" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Xophe84">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T13:33:00.000Z-Commune_Updates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 octobre de 2019 a 13.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T13:33:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T13:33:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T19:36:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"></span>Thanks for the info and corrections. The de/'d mixed up was a silly mistake to miss. I was just swapping out the templates and not paying attention to the grammar. I'll go back over what I've done now. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Xophe84" title="Utilizaire:Xophe84">Xophe84</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Xophe84" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Xophe84">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T19:36:00.000Z-Commune_Updates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 octobre de 2019 a 19.36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T19:36:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xophe84-2019-10-10T19:36:00.000Z-Commune_Updates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redaccion_comunas_occitanas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z"></span>Redaccion comunas occitanas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=26" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Redaccion comunas occitanas"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas"></span>Adiu BrennodAloisi. Lo doble d'aquel messatge serà mandat a J.F Blanc e a Jiròni. Veni de modificar <a href="/wiki/Sent_Pau_dei_F%C3%B2nts" title="Sent Pau dei Fònts">Sent Pau dei Fònts</a>, un article que se meritariá benlèu un autre nom, mès aquò son de figas d'un autre panièr. Aquela modificacion a per ieu un aspècte experimental e te demandi de la legir per veire s'ès d'acòrdi o pas. Me sembla que Wikipèdia es un site informatiu, pas un site militant e qu'es pas necessari de mençonar 4 o 5 còps qu'una comuna es occitana. Precisament, ambe'l modèl <i>vila occitana</i> puslèu que <i>Comuna de França</i>, la nacionalitat es donada e i a pas besonh d'i tornar. Me sembla tanben que la quantitat e la qualitat de l'informacion son mai importants que lo formalisme e tanben que la marca personala (sèm pas de gats mascles que pissan per marcar lor territòri). Semblariá que d'unes contributors, que contribuïsson pas gaire en realitat per çò qu'es de l'informacion, serián pas d'acòrdi ambe aquela darrèra idèia e que çò que compta per eles es d'impausar a nòstra Wp una sintaxi de lor invencion. Personalament, soi responsable d'una innovacion formala, se se pòt dire atal : indicar l'anciana region e tanben l'ancian canton e generalament en letras pichonas. Mès aquí, i a una utilitat practica : en mai de l'aspècte istoric, las ancianas regions d'abans Hollande avián una coëréncia que las novèlas an pas e los ancians cantons rurals avián sovent una realitat administrativa : per exemple, i aviá çò mai sovent una gendarmariá dins lo canton d'abans 2015, sense parlar del fait que sovent lo caplòc aviá una foncion comerciala per l'ensemble del canton. Doncas, lo costat practic èra çò que comptava, non pas l'enveja d'expausar mon <i>ego</i>. En dintrant dins los detalhs, dins l'introduccion, escriure (Daquòs en <a href="/wiki/Franc%C3%A9s" title="Francés">francés</a>) me sembla pro e (oficialament en <a href="/wiki/Franc%C3%A9s" title="Francés">francés</a> Daquòs) pòrta pas d'informacion. Aquò a eventualament un sens pel País Valencian, perqué los municipis an quora lo nom oficial en catalan, quora lo nom en castelhan, quora lo nom al còp dins la lenga nacionala e dins la lenga de l'estat. Explicar las règlas que precisan la nominacion oficiala de las comunas (o autras entitats) dins l'article <a href="/wiki/Comuna_francesa" title="Comuna francesa">Comuna francesa</a> (que malurosament a disparegut), aquò rai. Soi pas segur que se pòsca far un modèl rigide e preestablit de redaccion dels articles, mès en tot cas deu pas èsser la decision d'un contributor. Aquí. I auriá benlèu mai de detalhs a aprigondir. Me diràs benlèu çò que ne pensas. Coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3 novembre de 2019 a 18.11 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z-Redaccion_comunas_occitanas"></span> </p> <ul><li><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-27T21:23:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z"></span>EXPERIÉNCIAS E PRACTICAS</b>. Adiu, BrennodAloisi. 1. <b>Lo problèma del grafic demografia</b>. Es pas totalament automatic, a la diferéncia del grafic francés. S'arrèsta en 2009. I a una error sistematica per la populacion de 1962, quand es superiora a la de 1968, un automatisme la fa inferiora de la meteissa quantitat (quand es pas corregit manualament) : ex 1962, 120 abitants en realitat, 1968, 100 abitants, lo sistèma plaça 80 abitants per 1962. Rapèl : quand lo grafic marcha pas, escriure una linha de mai ambe |max= (donada mai importanta). Probable qu'avèm pas un informatician de nivèl sufisent per tal d'o reglar tot dins lo modèl. Una solucion provisòria : plaçar en bas del grafic la darrèra populacion coneguda. S'utilizam encara lo modèl dins las annadas 20, benlèu ne caldrà plaçar 2. Mès cada contributor farà a son biais. 2. <b>Tablèu dels cònsols</b>. Se malfisar del mes d'eleccion que copiam sovent sus Wp.fr. De còps escrivon març sistematicament, quitament en 1995 que l'eleccion se faguèt en junh e en 1945 e 1953 que se faguèt en mai. Problèma per 2014 : los torns èran lo 23 e lo 30 de març, doncas a la fin del mes. Coma l'eleccion del cònsol se fa lo divendres o lo dimenge que sièc l'eleccion, depend de la preséncia o pas d'un segond torn. Quand i a pas de segond torn, lo cònsol es (normalament) elegit en març (lo 28 o lo 30), quand n'i a un, es elegit en abrièl. E i a de cases particulars de comunas sense lista (o sense lista completa) <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lections_municipales_fran%C3%A7aises_de_2014#Communes_sans_candidats">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lections_municipales_fran%C3%A7aises_de_2014#Communes_sans_candidats</a> . Benlèu que per 2014 val mai precisar pas lo mes s'avèm pas d'informacions. Cal far una linha per mandat ? De còps avèm la lista completa dempuèi 1789 (o abans). Seriá alongar encara lo tablèu. Sèm una enciclopèdia, çò important es de saber de quora a quora Sr Daquòs foguèt cònsol. Mas cadun farà a son biais. 3. <b>Rubrica véser tanben</b>. Boulaur, qu'es del Gers, escriviá "véser". Un contributor a la tissa de botar "vejatz". Aquò rai, tant val un imperatiu coma un infinitiu. Lo problèma es que vejatz es un imperatiu puslèu pauc espandit. Me pensi que val mai gardar l'infinitiu. En gròs, se ditz véser en Gasconha orientala e en lengadocian meridional, véder en Gasconha occidentala e pirenenca, veire endacòm mai. Se sabètz pas, val mai daissar. 4. <b>Infobox</b>. Sus l'infobox, l'òrdre qu'apareisserà es per defaut, depend pas de l'òrdre qu'avètz utilizat. Personalament, fau sovent un blòt administratiu, ambe l'intercom a la seguida. Aquò permet de far de copiats-pegats dins d'airals omogenèus. Mas es pas brica una preconizacion, es un afar practic. Atencion : sovent l'arrondiment cambièt en 2017 per s'adaptar a las intercomunalitats. Cal verificar. 5. <b>Presentacion dels paragrafes</b>. Escriviam, per exemple, ==Geografia==. I a una tissa que s'es espandida sus las Wikipedias, es de corregir en == Geografia == ambe 2 espacis. Practicament, lo resultat es identic, doncas es un afar de monde que farián un trabalh pus util en contribuïssent vertadièrament. Me reconeissi lo dret de tornar a ==Geografia==. Vòli pas encoratjar los contributors a pèrdre temps... 6. <b>Las rubricas sense contengut</b>. Coma sabètz, sèm pas pro per emplenar totas las rubricas <i> Luòcs e monuments, Personalitats ligadas amb la comuna, Veire tanben, Ligams extèrnes</i>, etc. Mès aquò es pas pro ridicul per d'unes, n'ajustan d'autras rubricas voidas : ensenhament, economia, toponimia, etc, qu'an pas enveja d'emplenar e que seràn benlèu pas emplenadas dins 30 ans. Quand vesi aquò, rau, a las escobilhas. Mès... faretz coma voldretz. 7. <b>L'ostal de comuna de Daquòs</b>. Dins la comuna de Daquòs, n'i a que creson informatiu d'ajustar dins la descripcion de l'imatge : Ostal de comuna (o comuna, o maison comuna) DE DAQUOS. Çaquelà, normalament n'i a pas qu'un, doncas es una precision inutila. Meteis tractament. I a pièger : quand i a la glèisa, dins una comuna formada de 2 ancianas comunas o parròquias, per exemple Brostajota e Manjarabas, t'escrivon seriosament "La glèisa de Brostajotas e Manjarabas". Solament, es la glèisa de Brostajotas o la de Manjarabas ? Es una question que los tafura pas. E çaquelà es sovent aisit d'aver la responsa sus lo web. 8. <b>Exemple del departament de la Droma</b>. Soi pas contra totas las innovacions (soi per respectar lo trabalh dels davancièrs), n'i a que pòdon aver un sens. Per exemple, dins l'intro, escrivi "una comuna dau Daufinat occitan", perqué justament i a un Daufinat arpitan, puslèu que "una comuna occitana dau Daufinat" (pel Vivarés sabi pas totjorn ont se ditz "delh" e ont se ditz autrament, doncas cambii pas ren). Boti Portal de Daufinat e Portal d'Occitània, al centre sus doás linhas, puslèu qu'a esquèrra. Mès se sètz pas d'acòrdi, contunharai pas. 9. <b>Vostra ajuda es benvenguda, etc</b>. Aquel convit a emplir las rubricas aviá benlèu un sens fa 10 o 15 ans. Ara, tot lo monde sap que se pòt contribuïr a Wp. Me demandi s'aquò sèrv a quicòm, a part a solinhar qu'avèm pas la capacitat de far lo trabalh. 10. <b>lo 24 d'octobre DE 1929</b>. Normalament se ditz lo 24 d'octobre, lo 13 de mai, lo 14 de julhet, etc. Dins la gramatica d'Alibèrt, aprenguèri que caliá metre tanben lo <i>de</i> a l'annada. Es quicòm qu'ai pas mai ausit, fòra del mitan occitanista, mès benlèu qu'aquò existís dins la lenga vertadièra. Lo problèma es qu'es pas dins la gramatica de Josèp Salvat, qu'es nascut pr'aquò encara mai prèp de la Catalonha ! Me demandi s'aquela preconizacion d'Alibèrt es vertadièrament dins la lenga parlada e ont. Pel moment, pensi pas necessari d'utilizar aquel torn, mès ai benlèu pas rason. Me dirètz. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-27T21:23:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 novembre de 2019 a 21.23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-27T21:23:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-27T21:23:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2019-11-03T18:11:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="chat_en_occitan" data-mw-thread-id="h-chat_en_occitan-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-chat_en_occitan-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z"></span>chat en occitan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-chat_en_occitan-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=27" title="Edita el codi de la secció: chat en occitan"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z-chat_en_occitan"></span>Adieu BrennodAloisi. Pòdes titolar ta lista: "Lista dels forums en occitan sus internet", per exemple e la categorizar a la seccion internet dins los Mèdias occitans. Pensi que lo fait que siás sòci dels forums en question es pas un problèma, del moment que ne fas pas la publicitat, e que respectes los criteris de redactions de Wikipèdia. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z-chat_en_occitan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 febrièr de 2020 a 19.51 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z-chat_en_occitan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2020-02-01T19:51:00.000Z-chat_en_occitan"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z"></span>Toponims de la Charanta Lemosina<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=28" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Toponims de la Charanta Lemosina"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"></span>Adiu, Brennod Aloisi. Escrives fòrt plan en occitan. Comenci pel primièr cas. Sabiái pas que i aviá d'occitan sus Openstreetmap. E per <a href="/wiki/Aussac-Vadalle" class="mw-redirect" title="Aussac-Vadalle">Aussac-Vadalle</a>, se n'i a, es qu'un fat e fòl, un caluc (a mad), i a apondut lo resultat de son imaginacion. The Vandals !!! It's a fake new. Sus la mapa de Cassini (cal cercar la comuna a son nom oficial) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/donnees/carte-de-cassini">https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/donnees/carte-de-cassini</a> , Vadalle es escrit <i>Valade</i>, nom d'origina occitana. Se vesètz la mapa de Tortolon e Bringuier (segonda mitat del sègle XIX) <a class="external free" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Tourtoulon.jpg">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Tourtoulon.jpg</a> , Aussac es un vilatge francofòne (que parlava santongés a l'epòca). Vertat es que Vadalle es un pauc pus a l'èst e benlèu que, a l'epòca, de partidas de la comuna parlavan encara un occitan degradat. Ara, es mai qu'improbable o i cal anar per o saber. Per la fòrma del nom, un contributor, inspirat per lo Sant Esperit, Allah, whisky, LSD, the Grand Manitó, etc, s'amusèt a l'occitanizar lo 21 de decembre. I a pas cap de rason de supausar que la comuna es occitana (cal escriure | carta=fr dins l'infobox). Per <a href="/wiki/Le_Vieux-C%C3%A9rier" title="Le Vieux-Cérier">Le Vieux-Cérier</a>, me sembla que lo nom es estat occitanizat per traduccion, urosament en daissant un « benlèu ». Cèrtas, la mapa de Cassini pòrta <i>Vielcerier</i> (sense article, o cal precisar). Que cal far ? I anar o daissar la situacion coma es. Cossí que siá, es curiós qu'un arbre pichon coma un cerièr aja donat son nom a un lòc, çò qu'es una rason de mai d'èsser prudent. Per <b>Romasiera (e) Loberc</b>, es un usatge occitanista, quand i a dos vilatges o doás ancianas comunas, o parròquias, dins una comuna, de metre un <b>e</b> de separacion. Mas es pas brica segur que siá un usatge locau (çò mai sovent es lo contrari). Que far ? Me sembla que la referéncia donada es pas que l'opinion personala de qualqu'un, aquò vòl dire qu'es pas çò qu'apelam una referéncia. <a href="/wiki/Vieux-Ruffec" title="Vieux-Ruffec">Vieux-Ruffec</a>. Aquí es tot simple. Es una comuna francesa, es pas una vila coneguda coma <a href="/wiki/Ven%C3%A8cia" title="Venècia">Venècia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Par%C3%ADs" class="mw-redirect" title="París">París</a> o Espira (Speyer, Germany), l'usatge es de daissar lo nom francés tal coma es (do'nt translate). Perhaps, the occitan people near this commune have a special name in occitan, but <b>you do'nt know that</b>. So, you must be careful and you let the French name. I am sad when I find that some people forget that Wp is an encyclopaedia, not a blog for fun. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 febrièr de 2020 a 11.51 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z"></span>Open street Map es pas una institucion. Ditz çò que sos contributors li fan dire, de vertats o d'asenadas. Per Romasieras (e) Loberc, sai pas çò que cal far. Solament quand GeoOccitània ajustèt son e, i aviá dejà la referéncia ABANS : « <b>Romasieras Loberc</b><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> » (version del 19 de decembre). Donc, d'intercalar un <b>e</b> (version del 22 de decembre) en gardant la referéncia, aquò s'apèla una extorsion de referéncia. E probable que se'n chautava, lo tipe, que compreniá quitament pas lo problèma... <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 febrièr de 2020 a 22.37 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T11:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z"></span>Plan mercés per la licçon d'anglés. Sabiái que fasiái una fauta, mas... A part aquò, la pagina de Confolentés, es Jan Urroz, un òme que coneis la lenga. Per las consonantas mudas en finalas de nom, coma coneis pas la gramatica istorica, pòt far d'errors. Per Confolenç, i a un t en latin, mas en occitan dona pas un t, quitament si lo país es lo Confolentés; la grafia francesa <i>Confolens</i> es foneticament justa. Me pensi que cal escriure Confolenç. Mas aquò rai, lo problèma de bdtopoc.org, Openstreetmap, GeoOccitània, etc, ven pas de Jan Urroz. Lo primièr problèma es dins las regions ont Bénédicte Boyrie-Fénié a trabalhat. Respèctan estrictament sas preconizacions, quitament quand son purament personalas (Flaiac per Bodin de Bòrregard o simplament Bòrregard, perqué i aviá un Flayac a costat sus la mapa de Cassini), quitament quand aplica una grafia dissidenta (Castèl Mauron per Castèlmauron) quitament quand coneissiá pas la fòrma actuala, que l'a pas cercada e qu'a una soleta pichona fòrma anciana del sègle XIII. Aquí d'exemples dins mon país : Margueron per Margairon, Landeroat per Landerroat, Senta Radegonda per Senta Rigonda, Camp Long per Cablong, Las Lòtjas per Las Luèvias (e en francés se ditz Les Lèves çaquelà !), etc. Una autra tissa de Boyrie-Fénié es de restablir las fòrmas etimologicas teoricas quitament quand coneis las fòrmas autenticas : Senta Eulàlia (foneticament impossible !) per Senta Aulaia, etc, etc. Aquò vòl pas dire qu'es pas una persona sabenta en toponimia, non... Sap plan de causas en toponimia, en latin, etc. Ne sabi pas la mitat... A tanben un nivèl de distraccion extraordinari. Per Sent Martin Petit, dona una explicacion dins un paragrafe; dins lo paragrafe seguent, inventa una teoria curiosa coma se sabiá pas çò que veniá d'escriure... Atal ! Un autre problèma de bdtopoc, donc de monde de l'IEO, es lor abséncia de seriós scientific : inventan de fòrmas sense i anar tot simplament per veire cossí se ditz. Sufiriá çaquelà de 10 personas intelligentas, 15 jorns per an sus 5 ans, per far 99% del trabalh, sus l'ensemble de l'Occitània. Un darrèr problèma, complementari del precedent, es lor immensa incompeténcia. A partir d'una fòrma de 1200 o 1300, que sabon pas interpretar, imaginan una fòrma actuala. Ex : per Anzac, una fòrma latina Anticiaco pòt pas donar Anticiac. La fòrma latina es en realitat una latinizacion, donc una interpretacion, d'un nom que se prononciava probablament Anzac o Anzat a l'epòca. Per Chouvigny, nom francés, qu'es un equivalent de Calvinhac en lengadocian, tròban una atestacion de 1375, <i>Chalvinhet</i>. Mas dejà al sègle XIV la primièra sillaba èra en Cho-. Per la finala, se sap pas, en Borbonés e dins lo nòrd de l'Auvèrnhe, quina es la part de la francizacion, de l'interpretacion e de l'evolucion fonetica vertadièra dins lo tractament grafic del sufixe <i>-ac</i>. Ara, un vilatge s'escriu en <i>-y</i>, un autre a costat en <i>-at</i>, un autre encara en <i>-é</i>, benlèu per una meteissa prononciacion occitana (o, çò que complica encara l'afar, d'un polimorfisme estranh : per Vichel en francés, un observator a notat <i>Vitsa</i> (accent sus la segonda sillaba), <i>Vitsey</i>, <i>Vitsé</i>). Solament nòstres ases s'imaginan que <i>Chalvinhet</i> es lo nom occitan, perqué, un còp, un sol còp, un escriba l'escriguèt atal... Aquí. Se cal malfisar de tot çò qu'es escrit, mai que mai en occitan. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 febrièr de 2020 a 12.15 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-26T22:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z"></span>Adieu, BrennodAloisi. Un panèl fa pas totjorn pròva. Coneissi un panèl <i>Brassac</i> per <i>Braçac</i>, un panèl en lengadocian per un vilatge gascon (ambe una fonetica inadaptada). Mès aqueste còp avèm al mens una atestacion (d'un document que cal prene pr'aquò ambe precaucion) : <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://communes-oc.cg24.fr/cantons/beaumont-du-perigord/BEAUMONT-DU-PERIGORD.htm">http://communes-oc.cg24.fr/cantons/beaumont-du-perigord/BEAUMONT-DU-PERIGORD.htm</a> . Sabètz tornar nommar un article ? Siquenon, o pòdi far. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28 febrièr de 2020 a 10.42 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-27T12:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z"></span>Aviái legit sense far atencion. Segur que i a una fauta sul panèl. D'autre part, lo nom oficial èra simplament <i>Beaumont</i> abans 2001 e lo lòc venguèt <i>B-de-Périgord</i>, siá per de rasons toristicas, siá per evitar de confusions ambe'ls autres <i>Beaumont</i>, que son nombroses. L'usatge local en occitan es plan probablament <i>Bèlmont</i> e l'enregistrament oral sul site de las comunas del Perigòrd tòca per son artificialitat e sa manca de natural. L'autor de l'article s'es pensat que valiá mai daissar lo nom sense un determinant recent e pas socializat en occitan. Val mai, donc, daissar lo títol coma es, contràriament a çò qu'aviái pensat. Cossí que siá, mercés per vòstra vigilància. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 febrièr de 2020 a 00.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-28T10:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T01:31:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z"></span>Soi pas administrator tanpauc e encara mens informatician ! L'error es dins las datas de las contribucions, empacha pas de comprene pr'aquò. Ne podètz parlar a Joan Francés Blanc se volètz. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T01:31:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 febrièr de 2020 a 01.31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T01:31:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T01:31:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-02-29T00:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-04T09:44:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"></span>Adieu, BrennodAloisi. La question de La Ròcha Focaud e de Mòrtamar. Es pas çò meteis. Se disi La Ròcha, sense apondi, escrivi l'article e lo nom separats. Es una règla generala. La Ròcha, es una "ròca" al sens medieval, que mescla la nocion de <i>puèg</i> e la de <i>fortalesa</i>. Mas es pas una <i>ròcafocaud</i>, nocion desprovesida de sens, es simplament la "ròca" del sénher Focaud, un nòble. E a l'epòca, se disiá sense preposicion. Se Joan Pèire Sivadon a (per exemple) una Ford Focus, es pas una Ford Focussivadon, es una Ford Focus coma las autras. Fòra d'un cas semblable, ambe article, la règla es de separar pas lo nom e lo determinant (adjectiu plaçat abans, coma <i>Bèlcastèl</i>, <i>Bèthpug</i>, plaçat après, coma <i>Montclar</i>, <i>Montvalent</i>, nom de persona, coma <i>Montflanquin</i>, <i>Pugmiclan</i> = Pug + Miquèl + sufixe -an, etc). Après, i a de toponimistas coma Lavalada, Boyrie-Fénié, qu'an pres l'usatge de separar lo nom del determinant e qu'escrivon <i>Mont Auriòl</i>, <i>Mòrta Mar</i> (ambe adjectiu), <i>Castèl Mauron</i>, <i>Mont Polhan</i> (ambe nom de persona sufixat o pas). E encara B. Boyrie-Fénié fa d'excepcions per o complicar tot. Dins lo libre de Bénédicte Boyrie-Fénié <i>Dictionnaire Toponymique des Communes Lot et Garonne</i> (lo dialècte es lo lengadocian o lo gascon), sabi que i agèt un conflicte entre l'IEO local e B. Boyrie-Fénié; per conciliacion, lo nom segon las règlas graficas (sense separacion) o contra las règlas (ambe separacion) son juxtapausats. Vesi pas per quina rason fonetica i auriá una règla particulara pel lemosin sus aquela question. I pòt aver de règlas particularas per un dialècte. Per exemple, dins los mots acabats per -n mut, i a sovent reculament de l'accent : <i>Sanctus Africanus</i> > occitan medieval <i>Sant African</i> > occitan actual <i>Sant Africa</i>, o <i>Asilhan</i> > <i>Asilha</i> (noms lengadocians). Mas es pas regular, <i>Talairan</i> es pas vengut <i>*Talaira</i>, <i>Verasan</i> es pas vengut <i>*Verasa</i>. La règla, qu'es fonologica, es d'escriure segon çò que se pronóncia perqué siquenon lo lector poiriá pas devinhar. En lemosin, l'irregularitat de l'accentuacion es pus generala e per exemple per s'i adaptar s'escriu <i>Moissídan</i> [muj'ʃidɔ] (e çaquelà <i>Sent Gençan</i> malgrat lo francés <i>Saint-Gence</i> que fa pensar que aquí tanben l'accent a reculat...). E i a benlèu de detalhs que m'escapan. La diferéncia, per tornar a nòstre afar, es que i a pas cap de rason lingüistica per separar lo nom e lo determinant dins los toponimes lemosins e per far autrament qu'en lengadocian, qu'en gascon, etc. <i>Mòrta Mar</i> me sembla una grafia separatista. E, per d'autras rasons, dins lo Creissent, <i>*La Sotrane</i> per <i>La Sostrana</i> (quitament en francés i a la Communauté de communes du Pays Sostranien !), <i>*Vile Favart</i> (o <i>*Vilefavart</i>) per <i>*Vilafavart</i>, l'*ecòle per l'escòla, me semblan tant anormals e separatistas coma serián <i>*Toloso</i> per <i>Tolosa</i>, <i>*Baione</i> per <i>Baiona</i>, etc. Ara, disi "me sembla", ai pas consultat d'autoritat superiora sus aquels afars. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-04T09:44:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 març de 2020 a 09.44 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-04T09:44:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-04T09:44:00.000Z-Toponims_de_la_Charanta_Lemosina"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Autafaia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autafaia-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Autafaia-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z"></span>Autafaia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Autafaia-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=29" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Autafaia"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erunberri-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z-Autafaia"></span>Adieu, BrennodAloisi. Mercés per ton message. En efècte, as rason; lo toponim corrècte sembla d'èsser <a href="/wiki/Autafaia" title="Autafaia">Autafaia</a>. Mas etimologias èran de fantasiás. Coralament, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Erunberri" title="Utilizaire:Erunberri">Erunberri</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Erunberri" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Erunberri">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Erunberri-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z-Autafaia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 març de 2020 a 10.40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erunberri-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z-Autafaia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erunberri-2020-03-08T10:40:00.000Z-Autafaia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Qualques_detalhs_tecnics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Qualques detalhs tecnics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=30" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Qualques detalhs tecnics"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics"></span>Adiu, BrennodAloisi. Me sembla qu'as una competéncia tecnica excellenta. Solament, de còps i a de consequéncias a considerar quand fas un càmbiament. Primièrament, ambe l'infobox vila occitana, la darrèra populacion oficiala s'escriu automaticament (ara, es la populacion de 2017). Ambe l'infobox Comuna de França, la populacion indicada es (e demorarà) la de 2013. Pòdes verificar ambe <a href="/wiki/Autafaia" title="Autafaia">Autafaia</a>. Pr'aquò, per de rasons tecnicas, l'infobox Comuna de França es plan adaptat a las ancianas comunas. Segondament, quand botas un document (mapa, fotografia...) a esquèrra, pòt arribar qu'empache de legir completament un tablèu, coma lo dels cònsols. Verifica encara ambe Autafaia. Dins aquel cas, val mai lo plaçar al centre (center, centre). Après, la question del tablèu dels cònsols. Sovent escrives <i>Elegit actual</i> e lo lector vei "en cors". Lo problèma es que un cònsol qu'acabèt son darrèr mandat en 2014, per exemple, serà encara supausat en cors en 2024, perqué sèm pas pro nombroses per actualizar lo tablèu. Al revèrs, se qualque contributor passa en 2024 e que veja escrita una fin de mandat en 2014, saurà que cal, siá cambiar la data de fin de mandat, siá plaçar lo o los novèls elegits dempuèi 2014. Enfin, mas aquò es una opinion personala, me pensi que val mai suprimir pas la darrèra linha que pòrta simplament la fin del cònsol precedent. Permet de far pus simplament un copiat-pegat per escriure una linha novèla, quand i a un cònsol novèl. En mai d'aquò, sense rapòrt ambe tas modificacions, quand i a pas de blason (escut...), val mai escriure pas "cap", perqué siquenon lo mot "Armas" s'escriu automaticament, quitament quand i a pas res. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 març de 2020 a 12.25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z-Qualques_detalhs_tecnics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-24T03:03:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Per l'afar del tablèu dels cònsols que se vesiá pas completament sus l'ecran (per exemple a Autafaia dins la version del 8 de març), ai comprés ! Depen de la resolucion de l'ecran. Soi vièlh e coma ai un ordinator fixe, ai los uèlhs tròp luènh de l'ecran, en tot cas pus luènh que quand legissi un libre. Aquò fa que pòdi pas utilizar las meteissas lunetas e soi obligat d'aumentar lo zoom a 133% per poder veire e trabalhar coma cal. Amb una tala resolucion, la partida dreta del tablèu dispareis. En realitat, doncas, lo problèma veniá de ieu. La question de l'infobox vila occitana. Foguèt inventada en 2013 o abans, mas èra pauc utilizada. Gos Groc, que vòl metre lo mot <i>occitan</i> pertot, comencèt a la generalizar. Per justificar de suprimir lo Portal Occitània, la categoria comuna d'Occitània, la mencion <i>es una comuna occitana</i>, etc que plaçava dins totes los articles, li diguèri que n'i aviá pro ambe la mencion de l'infobox. Dins ma practica, acceptar l'infobox vila occitana èra donc una solucion de conciliacion. Coma l'infobox vila occitana èra vengut plan majoritari, J.F. Blanc se contentèt d'aquela infobox per l'actualizacion de la populacion annada per annada. Probable que li costèt plan de trabalh e de pena e sai pas s'aurà enveja d'i tornar per l'autra infobox. Lo problèma del <i>cap</i> se pausa per los escuts, pas pels logòs (e en mai d'aquò, cresi que l'afichatge del logò es impossible). Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-24T03:03:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 març de 2020 a 03.03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-24T03:03:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-24T03:03:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-03-23T12:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Correccions-AWB" data-mw-thread-id="h-Correccions-AWB-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Correccions-AWB-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z"></span>Correccions-AWB<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Correccions-AWB-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=31" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Correccions-AWB"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z-Correccions-AWB"></span>Adieu BrennodAloisi , esperi que vas plan. Vesi que passas fòrça temps per corregir de caractèrs unicòde dins de passatge eissits del traductor automatic Apertium dins los articles de las comunas. Se me pòdi permetre de t'aconselhar, aqueles passatge sortits d'Apertium son dins un lengatge catastrofic, ni en occitan ni en francés, mas sovent dins una mescladissa dels dos! Pensi qu'es inutil de perdre son temps amb aquò, tant val mai suprimir simplament aqueles passatges eissits d'una temptativa malurosa d'un contributor que uèi a daissat Wikipèdia. Amicalament.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z-Correccions-AWB" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 abril de 2020 a 19.42 (UTC)</a> Benlèu es possible de far una supression automatizada amb AWB?<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z-Correccions-AWB"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2020-04-21T19:42:00.000Z-Correccions-AWB"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Iniciativas_personalas_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Iniciativas_personalas_?-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z"><span id="Iniciativas_personalas_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Iniciativas_personalas_?-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z"></span>Iniciativas personalas ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Iniciativas_personalas_?-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=32" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Iniciativas personalas ?"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z-Iniciativas_personalas_?"></span>Adiu BrennodAloisi. Ai vist ton trabalh recent en Cruesa e en Nauta Vinhana. Segur qu'ès un excellent tecnician, capable d'utilizar AWB. Dins una comuna ont passavi per azard o ai suprimit tot en pensant qu'èra de... qualqu'un mai. Solament, per de càmbiaments d'una tala importància, dins de questions de fòrma e non pas de contengut enciclopedic, seriá benlèu plan de consultar d'autras personas. Quauques detalhs : en respectant la realitat, que sèm dins l'estat francés, nos fa pas plaser d'o solinhar; escrivèm per exemple [region francesa|region]; e tu nos metes un Portal de las Comunas de França, que reservàvem a las comunas francesas pròpriament ditas. Autre detalh, far un sos-paragrafe Intercomunalitat, qu'es inutil tant que i a pas res dedins. Personalament, soi capable de me plegar a una disciplina collectiva, quand es collectiva; se soi pas d'acòrdi, o disi francament, aquò rai. Seriá benlèu una bona idèa de demandar a d'autres çò que ne pensas abans de modificar la fòrma dels articles, per exemple a un administrator. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z-Iniciativas_personalas_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14 mai de 2020 a 06.50 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z-Iniciativas_personalas_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z-Iniciativas_personalas_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z"></span>Adiu, BrennodAloisi. As plan fait de consultar qualqu'un. Un detalh (trobat a Manòc) : en lemosin, lo vèrbe es surplombar e pas susplombar (font diccionari Lavalade francés-occitan). Per l'eretièr del latin SUPER, SUPRA, lo lemosin coneis sus e sur. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 mai de 2020 a 10.54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-14T06:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T17:08:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z"></span>Coneissiái pas aquel diccionari, mès ara l'ai trobat en linha. Aquò rai... <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T17:08:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 mai de 2020 a 17.08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T17:08:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T17:08:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2020-05-17T10:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Internacionala_Progressista" data-mw-thread-id="h-Internacionala_Progressista-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Internacionala_Progressista-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z"></span>Internacionala Progressista<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Internacionala_Progressista-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=33" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Internacionala Progressista"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z-Internacionala_Progressista"></span>Adiu BrennodAloisi, Aquò's fait!<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z-Internacionala_Progressista" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 mai de 2020 a 10.54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z-Internacionala_Progressista"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2020-05-25T10:54:00.000Z-Internacionala_Progressista"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Règlas_d'accentuacion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Règlas_d'accentuacion"><span id="R.C3.A8glas_d.27accentuacion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Règlas_d'accentuacion"></span>Règlas d'accentuacion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Règlas_d'accentuacion"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=34" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Règlas d'accentuacion"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Bonjorn, BrennodAloisi. M'a calgut cambiar ta grafia per <a href="/wiki/Autafaia" title="Autafaia">Autafaia</a> que non correspondiá pas a l'ortografia en usatge. Se prenes un lòc coma Autaf<b>a</b>ja, i a pas besonh d'accent grafic per saber ont es l'accent tonic. Per la varianta Autaf<b>a</b>ia, i a pas de càmbiament : i dins lo contèxte jòga lo ròtle de consonanta (es un iòd). Sus aquel detalh grafic, i a pas agut de contestacions dempuèi Alibèrt : tot lo monde es d'acòrdi entre los que se sèrvon de la grafia classica. Se cal malfisar de las iniciativas graficas de Bénédicte Boyrie-Fénié que coneis mal las règlas graficas o las refusa. En Òut e Garona, lo monde de l'IEO departamental l'an contarotlada, mès en Dordonha sembla ben qu'an pas poscut e malurosament a espandit totas sas fantasiás. Remarcaràs tanben que (per un còp) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://openstreetmap-oc.org/">https://openstreetmap-oc.org/</a> s'es pas daissat enganar. Plan coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) 16 de junh de de 2020 a 00.28 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Luriec_e_la_lista..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Luriec_e_la_lista..."><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Luriec_e_la_lista..."></span>Luriec e la lista...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Luriec_e_la_lista..."></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=35" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Luriec e la lista..."><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Adieu BrennodAloisi. Ai trobat qualques autres noms de luòcs qu'ai apondut dins la seccion correspondenta (ai renomenat lo paragraf en luòcs dits o masatges). Benlèu que n'ai deslembrat qualqu'uns que la lista es longassa! Fas un brave trabalh amb las infobox de las comunas, bon coratge! <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) 20 de junh de de 2020 a 11.56 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs"></span>Genres e articles trobadorencs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Genres_e_articles_trobadorencs"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=36" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Genres e articles trobadorencs"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Adieu BrennodAloisi. Pensi que val mai gardar la grafia anciana <a href="/wiki/Canso" class="mw-redirect" title="Canso">Canso</a> per lo genre trobadorenc, e servar la grafia modèrna <a href="/wiki/Can%C3%A7on" title="Cançon">cançon</a> per tot lo rèsta. Veni de far qualques pichonas modificacions dins los articles concernits. Coralament. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) 24 de junh de de 2020 a 11.09 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Universal_Code_of_Conduct" data-mw-thread-id="h-Universal_Code_of_Conduct-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Universal_Code_of_Conduct-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z"></span>Universal Code of Conduct<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Universal_Code_of_Conduct-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=37" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Universal Code of Conduct"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Holder-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z-Universal_Code_of_Conduct"></span>Hi BrennodAloisi </p><p>I was asked by Wikimedia Foundation to promote this call for participation on the planned Universal Code of Conduct. </p><p>Best regards --<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Holder" title="Utilizaire:Holder">Holder</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Holder" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Holder">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Holder-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z-Universal_Code_of_Conduct" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 agost de 2020 a 03.59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Holder-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z-Universal_Code_of_Conduct"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Holder-2020-08-13T03:59:00.000Z-Universal_Code_of_Conduct"></span> </p><p><i>Pendant plus de 19 ans, les Wikimédiens et Wikimédiennes ont travaillé ensemble pour bâtir la plus vaste ressource de connaissance libre de l’humanité. Durant cette période, nous somme passés d’un petit groupe de contributeurs à une communauté de rédacteurs, de développeurs, d’affiliés, de lecteurs, de donateurs et de partenaires.</i> </p><p><i>Cependant, nous réalisons que rester fidèle à notre objectif, celui qui est exprimé dans notre vision d’«imaginer une monde dans lequel chaque être humain peut librement partager et contribuer à la somme de tous les savoirs», nous avons encore beaucoup de travail à faire.</i> </p><p><i>Par moments, nos contributeurs et contributrices, de même que nos projets eux-mêmes, ont souffert d’un manque de normes qui non seulement nous unissent entre nous mais qui permettent de créer collaborativement un environnement où la connaissance libre peut être partagée sans crainte. Afin de nous rapprocher de cet objectif, nous devons nous assurer que toutes les personnes qui souhaitent contribuer de manière constructive sur nos plateformes se sentent à l'aise et encouragées à nous rejoindre. Nous avons besoin de normes qui peuvent aider à créer un environnement constructif et inclusif qui encourage le partage des connaissances libres.</i> </p><p><i>Au fil du temps, plusieurs échanges ont souligné la nécessité d’avoir un ensemble règles de conduite s’appliquant de manière universelle aux différentes communautés, et enfin, le Conseil de la Fondation Wikimedia a rendu publique une déclaration, promulguant de nouvelles normes pour lutter contre le harcèlement et promouvoir l'inclusivité au sein des projets.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces">[7]</a></i> Le Code universel de conduite constituera un minimum de règles s’appliquant à tous les projet Wikimédia, et à nous tous, salarié(e)s et bénévoles, aux quatre coins du monde, et aura un impact sur notre travail et nos groupes, nos membres et nos projets. Il est important que nous participions tous et exprimions nos idées sur ce Code, sa nature, ce que qu’il devrait prendre en compte ou non; comment il pourrait faire croître, freiner ou aider nos groupes. </p><p><i>C’est le moment d’en parler. Votre communauté fait partie du mouvement Wikimédia et votre voix compte. Pour qu’elle soit entendue, vous êtes invités à en savoir un peu plus sur le Code de conduite universel <a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct">[8]</a> et à exprimer par écrit vos idées et réactions sur la page de discussion <a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Universal_Code_of_Conduct">[9]</a>. 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Par ailleurs, dans le cas où la page sur metawiki ne serait pas encore traduite dans la langue de votre projet, veuillez noter que vous êtes encouragés à répondre dans la langue de votre choix même s’il s’agit d’un fil de discussion initié en anglais sur le code de conduite universel.</i> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_sent_you_an_e-mail" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z"></span>We sent you an e-mail<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=38" title="Edita el codi de la secció: We sent you an e-mail"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail"></span>Hello Briantin de Montrei, </p><p>Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org. </p><p>You can <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/20479077" class="extiw" title="m:Special:Diff/20479077">see my explanation here</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Utilizaire:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:MediaWiki_message_delivery&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussion Utilizaire:MediaWiki message delivery (la pagina existís pas)">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 setembre de 2020 a 18.53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:53:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane"><span id="Rejoignez_d.E2.80.99autres_membres_de_la_communaut.C3.A9_Occitane"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane"></span>Rejoignez d’autres membres de la communauté Occitane<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rejoignez_d’autres_membres_de_la_communauté_Occitane"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=39" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Rejoignez d’autres membres de la communauté Occitane"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><br/>Bonjour à toutes et à tous. Pour celles et ceux qui n’ont encore jamais entendu parlé de moi, c’est normal. De fait , je viens tout récemment d’intégrer wiki media France en tant que volontaire, très heureux de pouvoir venir en aide aux projets en rapport avec la diversité linguistique. </p><p><br/>Naturellement, accroître la visibilité de l’Occitan et le nombre de contributions qui sont faits dans cette langue sur les outils développés par wiki media est l’une de nos priorités. Nous espérons ainsi soutenir et accompagner toute personne qui donne de son temps pour contribuer d’une façon ou d’une autre sur ces outils. </p><p><br/>Dans cette optique là, une première mise en contact entre vous et moi nous serait pas de refus. Si vous êtes d’accord sur le principe d’une rencontre, alors je pense qu’elle nous sera primordiale pour engager notre collaboration sur la voie que vous souhaitez lui voir prendre. Ce serai l’occasion pour moi de prendre connaissance des besoins de la communauté Occitane dans les projets de conservation de la langue et plus généralement d’énoncer quelques directives qui nous seront utiles pour la suite. Aussi, nous pourrons voir quels sont les projets qui restent à discuter avant d’être lancés, comme la mise en place de pages d’aides en Occitan sur Wikipedia et Lingua libre. </p><p><br/>A cet effet, voici un lien vers un sondage où vous pourrez y faire figurer vos préférences en termes de disponibilités. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://framadate.org/3lrrBNpbUBqLSzve">[11]</a> </p><p><br/>Merci d’avance pour votre réponse, <br/>Mercé ! </p><p><br/>Bien cordialement, <br/>Nicolas Lopez de Silanes, chargé de projet diversité linguistique </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi_Brennod" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi_Brennod"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi_Brennod"></span>Hi Brennod<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi_Brennod"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=40" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Hi Brennod"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><br/>Thank you for your answer. I am glad you did so because you raised very important questions and for that reason it is necessary I clarify some things out. </p><p><br/>Let's first start with the format of the meeting. The idea is to have a reunion with some of the members of the Occitan community working on Wikipedia and the Wikitionnary. I still need to think about whether the meeting will be a video conference or a casual voice call reunion, but that will depend on the software we use. The purpose of this meeting is for everyone to get to know each other and starting from there gradually moving on to discuss ideas about projects and how to corerct the bugs. It would be nice if we ended the reunion with a broad idea of the direction we want to see things go and a draft of future projects we would like to implement. For that reason, as you correctly undelined it previously, this meeting would be the first of many that will unfold as we start touching ground and discussing more in depth some of the projects we have in mind, but alos the resolution of those defautls you were pointing at. </p><p><br/>In terms of scheduling, I have changed the survey so that it's no longer three hours but two that figure in it. This is a time slot to maximize respondents'choice, so of course the meeting doesn't have to be two hours long. You will be free to arrive and leave the meeting at your convenience according to your availability during those two hours.The time slots are in CET, so I guess that is UCT+1. </p><p><br/>Regarding the French language barrier some people have, I still need to see in which language(s) the meeting would be held, i.e. whether it would be in French only or in English or half and half. That will depend on the language the respondents are most fluent in. In any case, as you suggested, there will be a written record of the meeting both in French and English so that we are all on the same page. </p><p><br/>Hoping I made myself clear enough, do not hesistate to write me about any other concerns and doubts you might have, <br/>Sincirely, </p><p><br/>Nicolas Lopez de Silanes, lingustic diversity project manager, Wikimédia France </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Junh" data-mw-thread-id="h-Junh-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Junh-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Junh<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Junh-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=41" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Junh"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z-Junh"></span>Hello, I have just edited the special pages. Let me know if it is ok now. Regards, --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z-Junh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 octobre de 2020 a 20.31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z-Junh"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2020-10-27T20:31:00.000Z-Junh"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Veir" data-mw-thread-id="h-Veir-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Veir-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z"></span>Veir<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Veir-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=42" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Veir"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z-Veir"></span>Hello, Brennod. Cresi ben que se ditz "veir" dins aquels lòcs un pauc nordics. Solament, soi pas capable de me sovenir ont ai trobat aquò per te fornir la pròva ! A prepaus, de còps as botat "Engolmés" en mai de "Perigòrd" dins l'infobox de qualques comunas de Dordonha. Pòt èsser justificat dins dos o tres cases : per exemple, una comuna de l'ancian <a href="/wiki/Canton_de_Vertelhac" title="Canton de Vertelhac">canton de Vertelhac</a> qu'a una partida de son territòri, dempuèi 1790, en Engolmés; o una autra del meteis canton que tot en demorant dins la diocèsi de Periguers, passèt administrativament en Engolmés. Mès dins los autres cases, ai pas trobada la justificacion e ai suprimit "Engolmés". Espèri d'aver agut rason... Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z-Veir" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 decembre de 2020 a 02.57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z-Veir"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2020-12-17T02:57:00.000Z-Veir"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Engolmés_en_Dordonha" data-mw-thread-id="h-Engolmés_en_Dordonha-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z"><span id="Engolm.C3.A9s_en_Dordonha"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Engolmés_en_Dordonha-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z"></span>Engolmés en Dordonha<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Engolmés_en_Dordonha-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=43" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Engolmés en Dordonha"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z-Engolmés_en_Dordonha"></span>Bona annada, Brennod e excusatz-me. En realitat, la mapa en question es una mapa dels governaments, donc de l'administracion civila, mas caldriá conéisser las diocèsis, que representan teoricament las frontièras dels pòbles galleses o autres. Per exemple, consideram que la region de Senta Fe la Granda es en Agenés, perqué èra dins la diocèsi d'Agen; mas èra, a la fin de l'Ancian Regime, dins la senescauciá de Liborna (Liborna es en Bordalés), çò qu'explica benlèu que passèt dins lo departament de Gironda en 1790. Ai benlèu corregit a tòrt vòstras contribucions. De còr e d'òc.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z-Engolmés_en_Dordonha" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 genièr de 2021 a 20.49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z-Engolmés_en_Dordonha"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-01-20T20:49:00.000Z-Engolmés_en_Dordonha"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello/Adieu" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello/Adieu-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"><span id="Hello.2FAdieu"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello/Adieu-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Hello/Adieu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello/Adieu-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=44" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Hello/Adieu"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Hello/Adieu"></span>Adieu! Nos coneissèm pas mas vesi que fas un bon trabalh per aicí. Òsca! Espèri que tot vos va plan a tu e totes los tieus. Te desiri una bona annada 2021 plan granada e acompanhada. T'escrivi qu'anam celebrar pro lèu lo 20en anniversari de la Wikipèdia catalana e me fariá plaser que poguèsses participar a l'iniciativa que capitanegi. S'agís de recuperar de vidèos (d'un maximum de 15 segondas) en anglés e i podriás parlar de ton interès per l'occitan (o mai las autras lengas) que s'acaben per "bon aniversari" e/o "per molts anys" en catalan. La tematica es liura. Se t'interèssa, e me fariá plaser de comptar sus tu, te donarai mai d'entresenhas lèu. Bona continuacion e bona dimenjada, a lèu! Una abraçada! Claudi/<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Capsot" title="Utilizaire:Capsot">Capsot</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Capsot" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Capsot">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Hello/Adieu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 febrièr de 2021 a 17.17 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Hello/Adieu"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Hello/Adieu"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Capsot-2021-02-13T14:50:00.000Z-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Hello, thanks for your message and willingness to help! :) The video, that has to be filmed horizontally, should be sent to: viquipedia@wikimedia.cat. It would be great to have it around Feb. 15th but you can send it a few days later if you are busy! Don't worry! Thanks again for your work, you are doing a great job. Take real care and have a great weekend! See you! De còr e d'òc, Claudi/<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Capsot" title="Utilizaire:Capsot">Capsot</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Capsot" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Capsot">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Capsot-2021-02-13T14:50:00.000Z-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 febrièr de 2021 a 14.50 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Capsot-2021-02-13T14:50:00.000Z-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Capsot-2021-02-13T14:50:00.000Z-Capsot-2021-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Clen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clen-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clen-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"></span>Clen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clen-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=45" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Clen"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z-Clen"></span>Adiu Brenno, me soi permés aquel cambiament, mance es la forma lemosina trobada al diccionari del Congrés <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://locongres.org/oc/aplicacions/dicodoc-oc/dicodoc-recerca?option=com_dicodoc&view=search&Itemid=168&type=fr-oc&dic%5B%5D=BASIC&dic%5B%5D=RBVD&dic%5B%5D=ALPC&dic%5B%5D=ATAU&dic%5B%5D=PROV&dic%5B%5D=PNST&dic%5B%5D=OMLH&dic%5B%5D=LAUS&dic%5B%5D=LAGA&dic%5B%5D=LEMO&q=gauche&q2=&submit=Cercar">[12]</a>. Sabi que gaucha es fòrça emplegat, mas es just l'adaptacion del francés <i>gauche</i>. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z-Clen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 març de 2021 a 19.45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z-Clen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z-Clen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:09:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"></span>Voliái pas parlar d'un fauta de genre, mas as rason las doas formas son possiblas en lemosin.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:09:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 març de 2021 a 20.09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:09:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:09:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:15:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"></span>En lengadocian, dins la lenga parlada, fòrça monde fan servir gaucha en luòc d'esquèrra, çò que me faguèt creire qu'èra çò meme en lemosin!<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:15:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 març de 2021 a 20.15 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:15:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2021-03-20T20:15:00.000Z-Jiròni-2021-03-20T19:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Paul,_Pau_e_Pal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z"><span id="Paul.2C_Pau_e_Pal"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z"></span>Paul, Pau e Pal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=46" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Paul, Pau e Pal"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal"></span>OK. Mercés Brennod. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 març de 2021 a 11.29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2021-03-24T11:29:00.000Z-Paul,_Pau_e_Pal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z"><span id="Toponimia_dels_pa.C3.AFses_occitans"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Toponimia dels païses occitans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=47" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Toponimia dels païses occitans"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans"></span>Adissiatz, BrennodAloisi. Ai lo libre dels Féniés, mas ara me sembla qu'a mal vielhit : tròp de « preindoeuropèu », que en realitat es pas que de celtic, tròp de noms de personas tirats de Negre, que sovent a tòrt contra Dauzat. Pels noms que demandatz, Palladuc, Ris, La Monnerie-le Montel, Arconsat, Escoutoux son absents, mas son sovent dins lo Dauzat e Rostaing. Per Santa Agata e Sant Flor, las comunas de Var e de Cantal (respectivament) son citadas (mas i a pas de problèma etimologic, benlèu un problèma de prononciacion). Per Puy-Guillaume, cresi que la fòrma auvernhata de <i>Guillaume</i> es plan prèpa de la fòrma francesa (*Guilhaume ?). Atencion a l'IEO, quand sabon pas, inventan. Vos respondrai detalhadament quand aurai léser o escriurai dirèctament çò qu'ai trobat dins los articles correspondents. Amistats.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 abril de 2021 a 21.57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z-Toponimia_dels_païses_occitans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-06-17T04:46:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour, BrennodAloisi. Ai rencontrat de maissants e soi obligat d'arrestar Wp. Amistats.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-06-17T04:46:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 junh de 2021 a 04.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-06-17T04:46:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-06-17T04:46:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-08T21:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z"><span id="Nom_de_.C2.AB_Sent_Ant.C3.A8ma_.C2.BB"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z"></span>Nom de « Sent Antèma »<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=48" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Nom de « Sent Antèma »"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»"></span>Bonjour, BrennodAloisi. TopOc (etc) es un organisme de l'IEO conegut per sa capacitat a inventar tot çò que sap pas. Ai pas cap de donadas sus la question. Sovent una prononciacion [-ə] correspond al Puèi Domat a un -a o a un -e. Mès, probablament qu'avètz rason : aquela grafia es estranha. Coneissi plan lo Cantal mès pas tant lo Puèi Domat; cal dire tanben que la lenga es en mai maissant estat en Puèi Domat. Cossí trobar d'informacions ? Benlèu vos podètz adreiçar a <a class="external free" href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Vida_Nova">https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Vida_Nova</a> (ancian Aavitus). Es un òme que sosten la grafia de Piare Bonaud e benlèu que Bonaud e son discípol Karl-Heinz Reichel an estudiat los noms de lòcs del departament. Ne pòdi pas dire mai. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 abril de 2021 a 19.55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-04-23T19:55:00.000Z-Nom_de_«_Sent_Antèma_»"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toponimia_de_Cantal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toponimia_de_Cantal-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toponimia_de_Cantal-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Toponimia de Cantal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toponimia_de_Cantal-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=49" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Toponimia de Cantal"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z-Toponimia_de_Cantal"></span>Bon ser, BrennodAloisi. Ai de pena a respondre ambe precision. Probable qu'a l'origina i aviá <i>Vesian</i> (nom de persona), <i>d'en Vesian</i> (en : formula de salutacion a un nòble, que ven del latin <i>dominus</i>). Aquò rai, mas per la fòrma grafica caldriá conéisser la prononciacion, aquò vòl dire : i anar. Personalament coneissi la partida auvernhassa de Cantal (e es pas acabat !), pas tròp la partida de dialècte lengadocian. En gaitant las fòrmas ancianas, ai l'impression que i a agut un reculament d'accent : <i>Vesian</i> > <i>Vesia</i> (cf. Sant African > Sant Africa). Seriá donc impossible d'escriure <i>*Vesian</i>. Autra question : la formula <i>en</i> s'es conservada o pas ? Darrèra question : i a de fòrmas escritas curiosas coma <i>Veghe</i>, <i>Meghe</i>, <i>Megio</i>, etc. Tornam donc a la necessitat d'ausir la prononciacion. Abans la pandemia, passavi una setmana cada prima e cada davalada a cercar la prononciacion dels noms de comuna. Dempuèi un an, ai pas poscut. E la qualitat de mos ausidors baissa... Enfin ! Conclusion : cambiar pas res al títol. Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z-Toponimia_de_Cantal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 mai de 2021 a 20.03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z-Toponimia_de_Cantal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z-Toponimia_de_Cantal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-06T10:43:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"></span>S'adreçar a la municipalitat es una bona iniciativa. Davalada es un sinonime d'automne (fòrma sabenta), auton o autom segon Joan Penent (evolucion regulara d'automnus, ambe -n articulada), tardor (mot catalan e d'Arièja), agòr o abòr (Gasconha), etc. Primavera d'hivern, expression catalana analogica de primavera = prima, es mai o mens arcaïc. Aquí tot çò que sabi dels sinonimes d'autumn dins las lengas occitanoromanicas ! Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-06T10:43:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 mai de 2021 a 10.43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-06T10:43:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-06T10:43:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-22T07:19:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Adissiatz, BrennodAloisi. Çò que disètz es una bona idèa. Solament, coneissi pas los aparelhs d'enregistrament actuals. Dins lo passat, aviái un magnetofòn de cassetas qu'enregistrava, ara fonciona pas mai. En mai d'aquò, non sauriá pas transferir lo resultat sus Wikipèdia. Soi andicapat mental ! Amistats. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">Sivadon 1949</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sivadon_1949" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sivadon 1949">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-22T07:19:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 mai de 2021 a 07.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-22T07:19:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-22T07:19:00.000Z-Sivadon_1949-2021-05-05T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="lemosin_ancian" data-mw-thread-id="h-lemosin_ancian"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-lemosin_ancian"></span>lemosin ancian<span data-mw-comment-end="h-lemosin_ancian"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=50" title="Edita el codi de la secció: lemosin ancian"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Adieu, Es complicat que las fonts son de mal trobar. Me sembla que val mai aver dos articles: </p> <ul><li>occitan peitavin: l'occitan que se parla(va) en Peitau (Rechoart/Rochechouart per exemple es istoricament en Peitau - <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poitou#/media/Fichier:Carte_du_Poitou.svg">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poitou#/media/Fichier:Carte_du_Poitou.svg</a> -e s'i parla enquera)</li> <li>lemosin ancian: l'estat ancian dau lemosin</li></ul> <p>Parlarai pas daus limits entre lemosin ancian e gascon ancian en Sentonja ;) Coralament, JF </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adiu_Bren" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adiu_Bren-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adiu_Bren-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z"></span>Adiu Bren<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adiu_Bren-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=51" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Adiu Bren"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z-Adiu_Bren"></span>Òc ben, l'article es fòrça interessant, especialament per me per la descobèrta dels dos trobadors Rainaut de Pons e Jaufré de Pons. Per çò qu'es dels limits dialectals, m'interessa, mas soi pas segur d'aver un nivèl sufisent per t'ajudar, sém aquí sus una zona lingüistica de maitas influéncias, peitavin, sentongés, lemosin, gascon. Per la lenga de l'article, pensi que podèm far servir lo gascon bordalés, gascon geograficament pus pròche (e ja influenciat pel lemosin). Amistats .<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z-Adiu_Bren" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 junh de 2021 a 11.44 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z-Adiu_Bren"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2021-06-18T11:44:00.000Z-Adiu_Bren"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maçanas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maçanas-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z"><span id="Ma.C3.A7anas"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maçanas-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z"></span>Maçanas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maçanas-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=52" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Maçanas"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z-Maçanas"></span>Hello, I'm just browsing the changes. Maçanas should even be Marçanas if we go back to the etymology. The "r" is assimilated to the following "s". We have the same case for Marçals (French Massals) in Tarn? Best regards, --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z-Maçanas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 julhet de 2021 a 07.30 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z-Maçanas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-07-29T07:30:00.000Z-Maçanas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Farilhon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Farilhon-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Farilhon-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z"></span>Farilhon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Farilhon-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=53" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Farilhon"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z-Farilhon"></span>Adieu Bren. Felicitacions per la tròba de <b>farilhon</b>, mot que me fas descobrir, ben plaçat entre sos equivalent catalan e italian. En cercant ai trobat una atestacion dins lo diccionari en linha de Reinat Toscano, qu'ai apondut dins l'article. Amistat.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z-Farilhon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30 julhet de 2021 a 11.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z-Farilhon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2021-07-30T11:33:00.000Z-Farilhon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Irai_&_Anc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Irai_&_Anc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z"><span id="Irai_.26_Anc"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Irai_&_Anc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Irai & Anc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Irai_&_Anc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=54" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Irai & Anc"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z-Irai_&_Anc"></span>Adieu l'amic, òc per Irai e Aent (pas d'h en occitan...) Amistat, --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z-Irai_&_Anc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15 agost de 2021 a 06.25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z-Irai_&_Anc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-08-15T06:25:00.000Z-Irai_&_Anc"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Usès" data-mw-thread-id="h-Usès-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z"><span id="Us.C3.A8s"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Usès-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z"></span>Usès<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Usès-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=55" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Usès"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z-Usès"></span>Adieu l'amic. I a d'errors etimologicas que son dintradas dins l'usança, e que val mai servar: besson per beçon, messorga per meçorga, Usès per Usèç. Amistat, --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z-Usès" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 setembre de 2021 a 18.06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z-Usès"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-06T18:06:00.000Z-Usès"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Voltona_e_Vau_Seror" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z"></span>Voltona e Vau Seror<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=56" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Voltona e Vau Seror"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror"></span>Adiu l'amic, òc ben s'avèm las atestacions mai ancianas en v, cal servar las v. Foneticament, deviá èstre /β/ qu'existís pas en francés, que trantalha entre b e v per transcriure aquò. Los noms d'aiga (de rius...) pòrtan pas l'article en occitan comun (Voltona, pas *la Voltona) mas coneissi pas l'usatge en lemosin. Coralament, --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15 setembre de 2021 a 05.21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-15T05:21:00.000Z-Voltona_e_Vau_Seror"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="St_Maurici" data-mw-thread-id="h-St_Maurici-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-St_Maurici-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z"></span>St Maurici<span data-mw-comment-end="h-St_Maurici-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=57" title="Edita el codi de la secció: St Maurici"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z-St_Maurici"></span>Adieu l'amic. Folgierosa me sembla encara melhor que Folgerosa. Amistat. --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z-St_Maurici" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28 setembre de 2021 a 12.34 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z-St_Maurici"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-09-28T12:34:00.000Z-St_Maurici"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Empúrias" data-mw-thread-id="h-Empúrias-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z"><span id="Emp.C3.BArias"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Empúrias-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z"></span>Empúrias<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Empúrias-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=58" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Empúrias"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z-Empúrias"></span>Adiu, escriure Empúrias es la sola grafia valedoira (/em'pyrjɔs/ e pas /empu'rijɔs/). Soi pas segur que los articles de <i>Sapiéncia</i> siagan passats (reviewed). Lo redactor es catalan e lo coneissi un pauc que passèri un temps sos tèxtes dins <i>A Vòste</i>. Amistat. --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z-Empúrias" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 octobre de 2021 a 05.24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z-Empúrias"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-10-04T05:24:00.000Z-Empúrias"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ménigoute" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ménigoute-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z"><span id="M.C3.A9nigoute"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ménigoute-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Ménigoute<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ménigoute-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=59" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Ménigoute"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z-Ménigoute"></span>Adiu, me pensi qu'es puslèu Manhigosta. "in" e quitament "yn" son d'ancianas grafias per "nh" (cf francés juin vs. occitan junh...) --— <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z-Ménigoute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 novembre de 2021 a 14.03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z-Ménigoute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2021-11-26T14:03:00.000Z-Ménigoute"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Farilhon2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Farilhon2-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Farilhon2-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z"></span>Farilhon2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Farilhon2-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=60" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Farilhon2"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z-Farilhon2"></span>Adieu Bren! Per informacion i a un article dins lo <a href="/wiki/Jornalet" title="Jornalet">Jornalet</a> que fa mencion de ton trabalh de recerca sus <a href="/wiki/Farilhon" class="mw-redirect" title="Farilhon">farilhon</a>. De legir aquí <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://opinion.jornalet.com/lenga/blog/4071/lei-farilhons">[13]</a> . Amistats . <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z-Farilhon2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 febrièr de 2022 a 12.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z-Farilhon2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-2022-02-08T12:46:00.000Z-Farilhon2"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BrennodAloisi-2022-02-08T18:28:00.000Z-Farilhon2"></span>Aquò's genial! Mercés! <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi">BrennodAloisi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussion Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-BrennodAloisi-2022-02-08T18:28:00.000Z-Farilhon2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 febrièr de 2022 a 18.28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BrennodAloisi-2022-02-08T18:28:00.000Z-Farilhon2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BrennodAloisi-2022-02-08T18:28:00.000Z-Farilhon2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=61" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Hello"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viera_iran-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z-Hello"></span>please save the <a href="/wiki/FC_Nassaji_Mazandaran" title="FC Nassaji Mazandaran">FC Nassaji Mazandaran</a> article and link it to the wiki data item. Thank <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utilizaire:Viera_iran&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utilizaire:Viera iran (la pagina existís pas)">Viera iran</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Viera_iran&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Viera iran (la pagina existís pas)">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Viera_iran-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 mai de 2022 a 20.23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viera_iran-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z-Hello"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viera_iran-2022-05-02T20:23:00.000Z-Hello"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z"></span>Lesinhan de la Ceba<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=62" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Lesinhan de la Ceba"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba"></span>Adieu l'amic, In Occitan, such a juxtaposition "Placename Attribute" requires a "de" (a "del XXX" if followed by "Lo XXX", a "de la XXX" if followed by "La XXX"). Could you please revert? Best regards, — <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 junh de 2022 a 11.38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z-Lesinhan_de_la_Ceba"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BrennodAloisi-2022-06-20T12:07:00.000Z-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z"></span>L'ai revertit. I wonder when the colloquial Occitan from the sources took the irregular form? <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi">BrennodAloisi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussion Utilizaire:BrennodAloisi">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-BrennodAloisi-2022-06-20T12:07:00.000Z-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 junh de 2022 a 12.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BrennodAloisi-2022-06-20T12:07:00.000Z-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BrennodAloisi-2022-06-20T12:07:00.000Z-Jfblanc-2022-06-20T11:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Estatal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Estatal-20221011210400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Estatal-20221011210400"></span>Estatal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Estatal-20221011210400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=63" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Estatal"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-20221011210400-Estatal"></span>Adieu Bren. Estatal s'emplega pas en occitan, es un mot catalan. L'occitan dirà puslèu "pargue d'Estat". Coralament.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-20221011210400-Estatal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11 octobre de 2022 a 21.04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-20221011210400-Estatal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-20221011210400-Estatal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jiròni-20221013104900-Jiròni-20221011210400"></span>Òc-ben Bren, d'acòrd, mercé per las recercas.<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Utilizaire:Jiròni">Jiròni</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jir%C3%B2ni" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jiròni">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jiròni-20221013104900-Jiròni-20221011210400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 octobre de 2022 a 10.49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jiròni-20221013104900-Jiròni-20221011210400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jiròni-20221013104900-Jiròni-20221011210400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Beunas_/_Bèunos" data-mw-thread-id="h-Beunas_/_Bèunos-20221026095400"><span id="Beunas_.2F_B.C3.A8unos"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Beunas_/_Bèunos-20221026095400"></span>Beunas / Bèunos<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Beunas_/_Bèunos-20221026095400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=64" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Beunas / Bèunos"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-20221026095400-Beunas_/_Bèunos"></span>Adiu, en provençal se marca pas la dobertura de l'e dabans una nasala, çò qu'explica las diferéncias de grafia: ProuvÈnço vs. ProvEnça, BÈunos vs. BEunas. ;) — <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-20221026095400-Beunas_/_Bèunos" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 octobre de 2022 a 09.54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-20221026095400-Beunas_/_Bèunos"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-20221026095400-Beunas_/_Bèunos"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toponimia_forestièra" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toponimia_forestièra-20221121084300"><span id="Toponimia_foresti.C3.A8ra"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toponimia_forestièra-20221121084300"></span>Toponimia forestièra<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toponimia_forestièra-20221121084300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=65" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Toponimia forestièra"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-20221121084300-Toponimia_forestièra"></span>Adieu l'amic, vesi que siás a "updatejar" las paginas de comunas francesas. Emai se se traduson pas, los noms devon seguir la toponimia occitana en tirant los junhents. (Occitan typography does not use hyphens in placenames). <a href="/wiki/Grez-sur-Loing" title="Grez-sur-Loing">Grez-sur-Loing</a> pòt èsser Grez sur Loing o Grez de Loing. <a href="/wiki/Jouy-Mauvoisin" class="mw-redirect" title="Jouy-Mauvoisin">Jouy-Mauvoisin</a> pòt èsser Jouy Mauvoisin o Jouy de Mauvoisin (proprietat dels senhors de Mauvoisin). — <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-20221121084300-Toponimia_forestièra" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 novembre de 2022 a 08.43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-20221121084300-Toponimia_forestièra"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-20221121084300-Toponimia_forestièra"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20221122104900-Jfblanc-20221121084300"></span>Adieu lo Joan,</dd> <dd>You're right about losing the hyphens, and I'd like to help.</dd> <dd>However, the number of communes with hyphenated names is too great to do alone, particularly when AutoWikiBrowser doesn't rename articles (to my knowledge) and Wikipedia only lets me rename a dozen or so articles before it stops me ("accion limitada") for a couple minutes to avoid spam. If there were some kind of bot or group effort to work on this, it'd go a lot faster. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20221122104900-Jfblanc-20221121084300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 novembre de 2022 a 10.49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20221122104900-Jfblanc-20221121084300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20221122104900-Jfblanc-20221121084300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mohet_>_Moët" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mohet_>_Moët-20221129141900"><span id="Mohet_.3E_Mo.C3.ABt"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mohet_>_Moët-20221129141900"></span>Mohet > Moët<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mohet_>_Moët-20221129141900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=66" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Mohet > Moët"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfblanc-20221129141900-Mohet_>_Moët"></span>Veire lo títol. As rason que l'h s'escriu pas (levat en gascon ;) ). Coralament. — <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Joan Francés Blanc</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">me´n parlar</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Jfblanc-20221129141900-Mohet_>_Moët" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 novembre de 2022 a 14.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfblanc-20221129141900-Mohet_>_Moët"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfblanc-20221129141900-Mohet_>_Moët"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research-20230409185500"><span id="Trabalhs_inedits_.2F_No_personal_research"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research-20230409185500"></span>Trabalhs inedits / No personal research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research-20230409185500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=67" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Trabalhs inedits / No personal research"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sovenhic-20230409185500-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research"></span>Bon ser, vos suggerissi de legir la seguida de la discussion aicí: <a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Jfblanc#Conflicte_d'edicions_/_Question_d'estandards_wikipedics" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc">Discussion Utilizaire:Jfblanc#Conflicte d'edicions / Question d'estandards wikipedics</a>. Coralament. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utilizaire:Sovenhic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utilizaire:Sovenhic (la pagina existís pas)">Sovenhic</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sovenhic" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sovenhic">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sovenhic-20230409185500-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 abril de 2023 a 18.55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sovenhic-20230409185500-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sovenhic-20230409185500-Trabalhs_inedits_/_No_personal_research"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Patz e serenitat. Me carpinhi pas, ai aplicat los principis universals de Wikipèdia (o me podètz pas reprochar) e ai indicat que refusi d'intrar dins una guèrra d'edicion. Anem, la vida es bèla, aqueste diluns de Pascas es radiós, lo cèl es linde e val lo còp de se passejar. Sovenhic (d) 10 abril de 2023 a 08.45 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé-20240212153500"><span id="C.C3.B2nsol_.E2.89.A0_C.C3.B2nse.3B_Emb_.E2.89.A0_Emb.C3.A9"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé-20240212153500"></span>Cònsol ≠ Cònse; Emb ≠ Embé<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé-20240212153500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=68" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Cònsol ≠ Cònse; Emb ≠ Embé"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lhanars-20240212153500-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé"></span>Adiu, Avètz introduit dins d'unes articles de fautas d'ortografia redondantas. Petita remarca, segon de trabalhs recents, cal preferir las fòrmas referencialas de «cònsol» per «cònse» e «emb» per «embé». Coralament, -- <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Lhanars" title="Utilizaire:Lhanars">Lhanars</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Lhanars" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Lhanars">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Lhanars-20240212153500-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 febrièr de 2024 a 15.35 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lhanars-20240212153500-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lhanars-20240212153500-Cònsol_≠_Cònse;_Emb_≠_Embé"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000-Lhanars-20240212153500"></span>Son de fòrmas localas recercadas; "cònsol" es un lengadocianisme. "Cònse" dins totes los diccionaris dau vivaroaupenc; "embé" dins lo diccionari de Faure (ont i a mantuns fòrmas localas), e a Diá sus lo CartoDialect (Cartas 345B, 568B, 581, 864 - Transcripcions <i>embé de, embé ieu</i>, etc.)</dd> <dd>Coralament, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000-Lhanars-20240212153500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 febrièr de 2024 a 23.10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000-Lhanars-20240212153500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000-Lhanars-20240212153500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lhanars-20240213093300-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000"></span>Adiu, non es un localisme. Cal arrestar d'utilizar los ultraoccitanismes que non son pas forçament un exemple de la lenga [locala] ─puslèu siètz un occitanofòn natiu? De segur, dins la carta lingüistica es clarament especificat que la Wikipèdia es escrita segon las Preconizacions del CLO. Vaquí un article molt interessant qu'explica la situacion: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jornalet.com/opinion/17913/consol">https://www.jornalet.com/opinion/17913/consol</a>. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Lhanars" title="Utilizaire:Lhanars">Lhanars</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Lhanars" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Lhanars">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Lhanars-20240213093300-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 febrièr de 2024 a 09.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lhanars-20240213093300-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lhanars-20240213093300-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240212231000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200-Lhanars-20240213093300"></span>Avètz rason de metre la forma "cònsol"; anarai annular mas edicions en "cònse". Sus "embé", Sumien escrich que "embe" sens lo signe diacritic pòt èsser escrich per descriure un parlar amb la terminason en en -e. Remplaçarai "embé" amb "embe".</dd> <dd>Pertocant l'estatut de locutor natiu, pas cap de nosautres es originari de Daufinat. Se podètz trobar de tèxtes me mostrant que lo Diés modèrn utiliza "amb" o "emb", suprimirai lo -e, mas se Sumien o permet e qu'aquò correspond a las autras fonts, vesi pas de rason de suprimir lo -e, just lo signe diacritic aquí dessús. Mercé de me tenir responsable. <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200-Lhanars-20240213093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 febrièr de 2024 a 10.12 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200-Lhanars-20240213093300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200-Lhanars-20240213093300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lhanars-20240213110100-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200"></span>La fòrma embe es acceptable mas sens lo diacritic (cf. CLO). La «e» de sosten se pòt metre de façon comparabla al provençal quand es entre de las consonantas (per exempe, <i>lo daufinat em<b>b</b>e <b>l</b>os autres dialèctes</i>). <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Lhanars" title="Utilizaire:Lhanars">Lhanars</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Lhanars" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Lhanars">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Lhanars-20240213110100-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 febrièr de 2024 a 11.01 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lhanars-20240213110100-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lhanars-20240213110100-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240213101200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nom_de_Lòdi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nom_de_Lòdi-20240224231400"><span id="Nom_de_L.C3.B2di"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nom_de_Lòdi-20240224231400"></span>Nom de Lòdi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nom_de_Lòdi-20240224231400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=69" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Nom de Lòdi"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400-Nom_de_Lòdi"></span>Adishatz, </p><p>Avetz d'atestacions per lo nom Lòdi en occitan? Èi pas l'intencion de renomenar la pagina de nòu, la vòsta causida me sembla bona, mes vorrí saber s'es sonque una causida </p><p>Cordiaument, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">ΟυώρντΑρτ</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Discussion Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">d</a>) <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">ΟυώρντΑρτ</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Discussion Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400-Nom_de_Lòdi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 febrièr de 2024 a 23.14 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400-Nom_de_Lòdi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400-Nom_de_Lòdi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240225004800-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400"></span>Òc - Fach! I a d'atestacions mistralencas jos la grafia "Lòdi", e es l'origina del quartièr marselhés de Lòdi. Lo Lòdi marselhés es atestada en mistralenc <i>Lòdi</i>, e en classic idem. Ai apondut mas fonts a la pagina.</dd> <dd>Amistats,</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240225004800-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 febrièr de 2024 a 00.48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240225004800-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240225004800-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240224231400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Montmorenci_paroxiton" data-mw-thread-id="h-Montmorenci_paroxiton-20240413224700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Montmorenci_paroxiton-20240413224700"></span>Montmorenci paroxiton<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Montmorenci_paroxiton-20240413224700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=70" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Montmorenci paroxiton"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700-Montmorenci_paroxiton"></span>Adishatz Perqué lo nom occitan de Montmorency seré paroxiton? es totjorn estat un oxiton en francés, vist que ven d'un -acum. Es un problèma quand prenem coma hont l'ortografia medievala, que notava pas l'accent Cordiaument, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">ΟυώρντΑρτ</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Discussion Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700-Montmorenci_paroxiton" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 abril de 2024 a 22.47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700-Montmorenci_paroxiton"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700-Montmorenci_paroxiton"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:%CE%9F%CF%85%CF%8E%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84" title="Utilizaire:ΟυώρντΑρτ">ΟυώρντΑρτ</a> Adieu,</dd></dl> <p>Las doas grafias alibertinas son modèrnas, de paraulas de cançons del sègle XX. Malgrat aquò, avètz probablament rason en pensant que la prononciacion es "Montmorencí", en comparason als autres toponimes franceses (Anecí, Chamberí, etc.). Anirai escotar las prononciacions dins las cançons e corregir los articles se devon èsser en -í... </p> <dl><dd>Coralament, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14 abril de 2024 a 00.55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500-ΟυώρντΑρτ-20240413224700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414040000-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500"></span>Òc, i a d'atestacions en -í. Ai cambiat los noms. Mercé plan ^^</dd> <dd>Coralament, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414040000-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14 abril de 2024 a 04.00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414040000-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414040000-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240414005500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="La_Gàrdia" data-mw-thread-id="h-La_Gàrdia-20240624112400"><span id="La_G.C3.A0rdia"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-La_Gàrdia-20240624112400"></span>La Gàrdia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-La_Gàrdia-20240624112400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=71" title="Edita el codi de la secció: La Gàrdia"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sovenhic-20240624112400-La_Gàrdia"></span>Dins l'article sus <a href="/wiki/La_G%C3%A0rdia" title="La Gàrdia">la Gàrdia</a>, ai degut eliminar la forma erronèa <i>*La G<b>a</b>rdia</i> qu'avètz inserida <a class="external autonumber" href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=La_Gàrdia&diff=next&oldid=2280277">[14]</a>. La sola forma corrècta es ben <i>la G<b>à</b>rdia</i>. La forma erronèa <i>*La G<b>a</b>rdia</i>, e mai s'es atestada, s'explica simplament per una negligéncia ortografica que ven de las gents qu'an pas aprés las règlas dels accents escriches. Coralament. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utilizaire:Sovenhic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utilizaire:Sovenhic (la pagina existís pas)">Sovenhic</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sovenhic" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sovenhic">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sovenhic-20240624112400-La_Gàrdia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 junh de 2024 a 11.24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sovenhic-20240624112400-La_Gàrdia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sovenhic-20240624112400-La_Gàrdia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240624113800-Sovenhic-20240624112400"></span>Interessant; mercés! <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240624113800-Sovenhic-20240624112400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 junh de 2024 a 11.38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240624113800-Sovenhic-20240624112400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240624113800-Sovenhic-20240624112400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas-20240723082100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas-20240723082100"></span>Minusculas per los noms de monedas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas-20240723082100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&action=edit&section=72" title="Edita el codi de la secció: Minusculas per los noms de monedas"><span>Modificar lo còdi</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sovenhic-20240723082100-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas"></span>Mercé per vòstre trabalh sus las monedas. Me permeti de suggerir qu'un nom de moneda comença per una minuscula: "un èuro, un dolar, una liura, un eusko" (s'escriu pas "un Èuro, un Dolar, una Liura, un Eusko"). Coralament. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utilizaire:Sovenhic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utilizaire:Sovenhic (la pagina existís pas)">Sovenhic</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Sovenhic" title="Discussion Utilizaire:Sovenhic">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Sovenhic-20240723082100-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 julhet de 2024 a 08.21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sovenhic-20240723082100-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sovenhic-20240723082100-Minusculas_per_los_noms_de_monedas"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240724232600-Sovenhic-20240723082100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=Utilizaire:Sovenhic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utilizaire:Sovenhic (la pagina existís pas)">Sovenhic</a> Fach, mercés! Soi un pauc susprés que las monedas ancianas sián tan complicadas que son! Cèrtas monedas carolingianas son gaireben universalas (sòu, denièr, liura...); mas i a tanben de monedas regionalas (vaqueta, florin, guilhòt, sanchet, dardena, galabin...), e puèi las monedas savoiardas e ibericas. Preferissi l'èuro... 😅</dd> <dd>Coralament, <a href="/wiki/Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei" title="Utilizaire:Briantin de Montrei">Briantin de Montrei</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">d</a>) <a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei#c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240724232600-Sovenhic-20240723082100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 julhet de 2024 a 23.26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240724232600-Sovenhic-20240723082100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respon</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Briantin_de_Montrei-20240724232600-Sovenhic-20240723082100"></span></dd></dl> <ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2450626">.mw-parser-output span.default a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Lock_icon_blue.gif")center right no-repeat!important;padding-right:17px!important}.mw-parser-output span.abonament a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")center right no-repeat!important;padding-right:17px!important}.mw-parser-output span.liure a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")center right no-repeat!important;padding-right:17px!important}.mw-parser-output span.limitat a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")center right no-repeat!important;padding-right:17px!important}.mw-parser-output span.pdf a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif/15px-Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif")center right no-repeat!important;padding-right:17px!important}</style><span class="citation noarchive" style="font-style:normal" id="CITEREF">.</span></span> </li> </ol>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Recuperada de « <a dir="ltr" href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&oldid=2444160">https://oc.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Utilizaire:Briantin_de_Montrei&oldid=2444160</a> »</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Aquela pagina es estada modificada pel darrièr còp lo 24 julhet de 2024 a 23.26.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright"><span style="white-space: normal"><a href="/wiki/Wikip%C3%A8dia:Drech_d%27autor" title="Wikipèdia:Drech d'autor">Drech d'autor</a> : Los tèxtes son disponibles jos <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.fr">licéncia Creative Commons paternitat pertatge a l’identic</a> ; d’autras condicions se pòdon aplicar. 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