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class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Dari Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="subpages">< <bdi dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa)">Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa)</a></bdi> | <bdi dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa)/Arsip">Arsip</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="id" dir="ltr"><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z"><span id="Abreviasi.2C_akronim.2C_dan_singkatan"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z"></span>Abreviasi, akronim, dan singkatan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&action=edit&section=1" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Abreviasi, akronim, dan singkatan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan"></span>Saya mau bertanya mengenai artikel <a href="/wiki/Abreviasi" class="mw-redirect" title="Abreviasi">Abreviasi</a> dan <a href="/wiki/Singkatan" title="Singkatan">Singkatan</a>. Saya tidak menemukan persamaan artikel <a href="/wiki/Singkatan" title="Singkatan">Singkatan</a> dengan artikel di Wikipedia Inggris. Artikel yang paling <b>sesuai</b> menurut saya adalah <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbreviation">Abbreviation</a> dan <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym_and_initialism">Acronym</a>, tetapi kedua-duanya sudah dibuatkan artikelnya di WBI yaitu <a href="/wiki/Abreviasi" class="mw-redirect" title="Abreviasi">Abreviasi</a> dan <a href="/wiki/Akronim" title="Akronim">Akronim</a>. Awalnya saya mau memberi templat <b>gabung</b>, tetapi setelah saya cek di google, saya menemukan artikel <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://kelaskata.blogspot.com/2012/01/abreviasi.html">ini</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://kbbi.web.id/abreviasi">ini</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://kbbi.web.id/akronim">ini</a>, dan <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://kbbi.web.id/singkat">ini</a>. Jika artikel pertama memang benar (lihat Bab 2 nomor 1 dan2), seharusnya <a href="/wiki/Abreviasi" class="mw-redirect" title="Abreviasi">Abreviasi</a> merupakan bentuk yang umum, sementara <a href="/wiki/Singkatan" title="Singkatan">Singkatan</a> dan <a href="/wiki/Akronim" title="Akronim">Akronim</a> memiliki bentuk kerja yang sama (yaitu menggunakan huruf awal di tiap kata) tetapi hasilnya berbeda (akronim bisa dieja -IKIP, singkatan tidak bisa -SPBU). Jika demikian, berarti ketiga istilah tersebut tidak merujuk pada hal yang sama, tetapi apa padanan untuk <a href="/wiki/Singkatan" title="Singkatan">Singkatan</a> dalam bahasa Inggrisnya? </p><p>Namun, menurut bagian <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym#Comparing_a_few_examples_of_each_type">ini</a>, yang disebut Acronym dalam bahasa Inggris bisa merujuk pada singkatan yang bisa dieja maupun yang tidak bisa dieja, contoh: NATO dan BBC keduanya termasuk acronym. Untuk masalah ini sebaiknya bagaimana? Seingat saya, EYD menjelaskan kalau akronim dan singkatan memang berbeda. Mohon bantuan informasinya, sehingga nanti bisa diputuskan apa sebaiknya <a href="/wiki/Singkatan" title="Singkatan">Singkatan</a> dan <a href="/wiki/Akronim" title="Akronim">Akronim</a> digabungkan, atau dibuatkan sub-artikel mengenai <i>singkatan</i> di artikel Acronym pada Wiki Inggris. Terima kasih <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/25px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/38px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/50px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pengguna:Okkisafire">Okkisafire</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Okkisafire">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 Mei 2014 09.03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z-Abreviasi,_akronim,_dan_singkatan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z"></span>Contoh di Wikipedia Inggris sudah jelas. Dan dari contoh di KBBI, saya melihat bahwa singkatan itu dapat mengacu ke <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/acronym" class="extiw" title="en:acronym">akronim</a> dan <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/contraction_(grammar)" class="extiw" title="en:contraction (grammar)">kontraksi</a>. Menurut saya, singkatan dapat menjadi <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umbrella_term" class="extiw" title="wiktionary:umbrella term"><i>umbrella term</i></a> bagi abreviasi, akronim, dan kontraksi. Tapi perlu dicatat bahwa ini sekadar opini. Saya belum mendapati sumber untuk ini. <span style="white-space:nowrap">-- <b><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:M._Adiputra" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:M. Adiputra"><font face="Tahoma" color="#808000">Adiputra</font></a></b> <b><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:M._Adiputra" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:M. Adiputra"><font color="blue"><span class="Unicode">बिचर</span></font></a></b> --</span> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 Mei 2014 01.45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-05T09:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z"></span>Kalau membandingkan artikel <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pedoman_penulisan_singkatan_dan_akronim" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Pedoman penulisan singkatan dan akronim">Wikipedia:Pedoman penulisan singkatan dan akronim</a> dengan versi <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Abbreviations" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations">Inggrisnya</a>, singkatan diterjemahkan langsung dari <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Abbreviation" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Abbreviation">Abbreviation</a>. Juga ada sumber <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://eyddalamlayar.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/singkatan-dan-akronim/">ini</a> (bdk. dengan <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://aingkumaha.blogspot.in/2008/04/singkatan-dan-akronim-pelajaran-bahasa.html">ini</a>). Mungkin artikel <a href="/wiki/Singkatan" title="Singkatan">Singkatan</a> bisa digabungkan dengan <a href="/wiki/Abreviasi" class="mw-redirect" title="Abreviasi">Abreviasi</a>? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pengguna:Okkisafire">Okkisafire</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Okkisafire">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 Mei 2014 02.51 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z-M._Adiputra-2014-05-06T01:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z"></span>Mohon tanggapannya supaya bisa segera saya perbaiki, daripada kalau dibiarkan berlarut-larut, PR-nya WBI tambah lama tambah banyak bertumpuk2. Sepertinya WBI butuh banyak staf ahli yang khusus menangani masalah2 tertentu sesuai keahlian masing2. Dalam kasus ini misalnya, dibutuhkan staf ahli bahasa Indonesia. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pengguna:Okkisafire">Okkisafire</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Okkisafire">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Mei 2014 05.05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Okkisafire-2014-05-06T02:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd>Staf? :) <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#772277;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">komunikasi</a>｣</small></sup> 14.51, 31 Mei 2014 (WIB)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="en:briefs" data-mw-thread-id="h-en:briefs-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-en:briefs-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/briefs" class="extiw" title="en:briefs">en:briefs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-en:briefs-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&action=edit&section=2" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: en:briefs"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z-en:briefs"></span>Sebaikya celana <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/briefs" class="extiw" title="en:briefs">en:briefs</a></i> diterjemahkan sebagai apa ya? Thx <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tutuy_Silalahidut" title="Pengguna:Tutuy Silalahidut">Tutuy Silalahidut</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Tutuy_Silalahidut" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Tutuy Silalahidut">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z-en:briefs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 Mei 2014 07.14 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z-en:briefs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z-en:briefs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z"></span>Terjemahan google nggak membantu. Tapi kalau saya sendiri, biasanya menyebut model <i>briefs</i> sebagai "celana dalam". Wiki Melayu juga belum menerjemahkan artikel ini, terkadang judul terjemahan mereka bisa dijadikan patokan. Kalau saya sih berpendapat judulnya tetap "Briefs" atau "Celana dalam briefs". <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pengguna:Okkisafire">Okkisafire</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Okkisafire">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Mei 2014 05.05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-08T07:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>Bahasa gaul dan slang<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&action=edit&section=3" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Bahasa gaul dan slang"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang"></span>Kedua artikel tersebut sudah <a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan:Slang#Diskusi_usulan_penggabungan" class="mw-redirect" title="Pembicaraan:Slang">diusulkan untuk digabung</a> sejak tahun 2012, tetapi tidak ada penentuan artikel mana yang diusulkan untuk dijadikan artikel utamanya. Saya pribadi lebih cenderung menggunakan artikel <a href="/wiki/Slang" class="mw-disambig" title="Slang">Slang</a> sebagai artikel utama dengan alasan: 1. lebih familiar di telinga; 2. karena pengertian "slang" sendiri adalah bukan "bahasa formal", ada baiknya khusus artikel ini judul yang dipilih adalah judul yang bukan bahasa formal. Tapi tentu saja saya lebih menyukai "pemilihan suara" untuk menentukan artikel mana yang dijadikan artikel utama. </p><p>Untuk "<i>Category:Slang</i>" ternyata sudah ada versi WBI-nya yaitu "Kategori:Bahasa gaul". Jujur saja, awalnya saya tidak paham kalau yang dimaksud dengan "bahasa gaul" disini itu adalah "slang". Saya sampai membuat "Kategori:Slang", tapi tidak bisa dipautkan dengan "<i>Category:Slang</i>" karena sudah terpaut dengan "Kategori:Bahasa gaul". Sekali lagi saya tegaskan: pengetahuan saya yang sempit ini tentu saja tidak bisa dijadikan patokan. Mohon tanggapannya supaya bisa langsung saya perbaiki. Terima kasih. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pengguna:Okkisafire">Okkisafire</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Okkisafire">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Mei 2014 05.05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:05:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:07:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang"></span>Tambahan: jika nantinya yang dipilih adalah "Slang", akan ada banyak perubahan yang harus dilakukan, karena banyak artikel WBI yang menggunakan judul "Bahasa gaul". <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pengguna:Okkisafire">Okkisafire</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Okkisafire" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Okkisafire">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:07:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Mei 2014 05.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:07:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Okkisafire-2014-05-09T05:07:00.000Z-Bahasa_gaul_dan_slang"></span> </p><p><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Selesai</b></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Homonim" data-mw-thread-id="h-Homonim-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Homonim-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z"></span>Homonim<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Homonim-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&action=edit&section=4" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Homonim"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sersan_Mayor_Kururu-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z-Homonim"></span>Dengan ini mengusulkan agar istilah <i>disambiguasi</i> yang tersebar di WBI diganti dengan <i>homonim</i>. Kata <i>ambigu</i> dan bentuk terikat <i>dis-</i> ada di KBBI, tetapi <i>ambiguasi</i> tidak ada. <span style="-moz-border-radius: 5px; border: solid 2px #228B22; background-color: #FFFFFF; color=#1E90FF"><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Sersan_Mayor_Kururu" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:Sersan Mayor Kururu"><b> Sersan </b></a> | <a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Sersan_Mayor_Kururu" class="mw-redirect" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Sersan Mayor Kururu">Lapor!</a> </span> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Sersan_Mayor_Kururu-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z-Homonim" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Mei 2014 20.36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sersan_Mayor_Kururu-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z-Homonim"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sersan_Mayor_Kururu-2014-05-09T20:36:00.000Z-Homonim"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Disambiguasi adalah bentukan baru yang tidak menyalahi kaidah bahasa. Banyak kata-kata bentukan baru yang memang belum masuk KBBI, karena itu KBBI dalam hal ini tidak bisa jadi tolok ukur, terutama untuk istilah-istilah teknologi. Untuk perbandingan, kata "disambiguasi" sudah masuk dalam "<cite class="citation book"><a href="/wiki/Harimurti_Kridalaksana" title="Harimurti Kridalaksana">Harimurti Kridalaksana</a> (2008). <i>Kamus Linguistik</i> (edisi ke-4). Jakarta: <a href="/wiki/Gramedia_Pustaka_Utama" title="Gramedia Pustaka Utama">Gramedia Pustaka Utama</a>. <a href="/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number" class="mw-redirect" title="International Standard Book Number">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Istimewa:Sumber_buku/978-979-22-3570-8" title="Istimewa:Sumber buku/978-979-22-3570-8">978-979-22-3570-8</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Kamus+Linguistik&rft.place=Jakarta&rft.edition=4&rft.pub=Gramedia+Pustaka+Utama&rft.date=2008&rft.isbn=978-979-22-3570-8&rft.au=Harimurti+Kridalaksana&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fid.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia%3AWarung+Kopi+%28Bahasa%29%2FArsip%2FMei+2014" class="Z3988"><span style="display:none;"> </span></span>". Kalau <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Februari_2009" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa)/Arsip/Februari 2009">5 tahun lalu</a> saya masih memilih homonim, tapi sekarang WBI sudah lebih dari 10 tahun menggunakan istilah tersebut, dan sudah menjadi tradisi, jadi saya tidak sepakat kalau diganti. Lihat pula istilah linguistik <a href="/wiki/Disambiguasi_makna" title="Disambiguasi makna">Disambiguasi makna</a>, yang tidak mungkin dibahasakan menjadi <a href="/w/index.php?title=Homonim_makna&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Homonim makna (halaman belum tersedia)">Homonim makna</a> <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#222222;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">rembuk</a>｣</small></sup> 14.19, 31 Mei 2014 (WIB) <dl><dd>Dalam hal disambiguasi nama, misalnya <a href="/wiki/Kategori:Disambiguasi_nama" title="Kategori:Disambiguasi nama">Disambiguasi nama</a>, itu bukan <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/homonim" class="extiw" title="wikt:homonim">homonim</a>, karena homonim hanya mempermasalahkan "kata yang sama lafal dan ejaannya", bukan tentang nama. Bahkan nama-nama di dalam halaman disambiguasi tidak harus selalu homonim, karena homonim otomatis menuntut homograf dan homofon, sementara dalam nama, <a href="/wiki/Aleksander_(disambiguasi)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Aleksander (disambiguasi)">Aleksander</a>, misalnya, dapat berdisambiguasi dengan nama-nama yang tidak homograf maupun homofon. Selain nama (orang dan tempat), halaman disambiguasi juga berkutat dengan disambiguasi singkatan, lagi-lagi di luar definisi <a href="/wiki/Homonim" title="Homonim">homonim</a>, oleh sebab itu menurut hemat saya penggunaan kata disambiguasi sudah tepat, dan penggunaan kata homonim adalah tidak tepat. <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#444444;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">runding</a>｣</small></sup> 14.49, 31 Mei 2014 (WIB)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="terjemahan" data-mw-thread-id="h-terjemahan-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-terjemahan-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z"></span>terjemahan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-terjemahan-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&action=edit&section=5" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: terjemahan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z-terjemahan"></span>sebaiknya kalimat dibawah inidi terjemahkan bagaimana baiknya ya: For the Jews of the time, circumcision was not as much a spiritual act as it was a physical sign of their <a href="/w/index.php?title=Covenant_(biblical)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Covenant (biblical) (halaman belum tersedia)">covenant</a> with God, and a prerequisite for the fulfillment of the commandment to produce offspring. Thx <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tutuy_Silalahidut" title="Pengguna:Tutuy Silalahidut">Tutuy Silalahidut</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Tutuy_Silalahidut" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Tutuy Silalahidut">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z-terjemahan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 Mei 2014 03.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z-terjemahan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z-terjemahan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hysocc-2014-05-10T04:09:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z"></span>"Bagi umat Yahudi di masa itu, sunat bukanlah perbuatan yang bersifat spiritual, melainkan sebuah tanda fisik ketaatan terhadap Tuhan, dan merupakan prasyarat yang harus dipenuhi untuk beranak pinak." -- <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hysocc" title="Pengguna:Hysocc"><font face="segoe script">Hysocc</font></a><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Hysocc" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Hysocc"><font face="segoe script">, Let's talk</font></a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Hysocc-2014-05-10T04:09:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 Mei 2014 04.09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hysocc-2014-05-10T04:09:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hysocc-2014-05-10T04:09:00.000Z-Tutuy_Silalahidut-2014-05-10T03:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mi-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mi-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z"></span>Mi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mi-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&action=edit&section=6" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Mi"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z-Mi"></span>Saya menemukan ada beberapa penamaan judul artikel yang menurut saya salah karena tidak sesuai dengan kaidah KBBI dan juga <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pedoman_penamaan" title="Wikipedia:Pedoman penamaan">Wikipedia:Pedoman penamaan</a>. Ini adalah contohnya: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Mie_Aceh" class="mw-redirect" title="Mie Aceh">Mie Aceh</a> --> <a href="/wiki/Mi_aceh" title="Mi aceh">Mi aceh</a>, karena dalam kaidah KBBI, seharusnya mi, bukan mie dan juga karena aceh pada Mie Aceh merupakan kata jenis mi, bukan merupakan letak geografi, maka penulisan yang benar adalah aceh, bukan Aceh.</li></ul> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Mie_Celor" class="mw-redirect" title="Mie Celor">Mie Celor</a> --> <a href="/wiki/Mi_celor" title="Mi celor">Mi celor</a>, karena dalam kaidah KBBI, seharusnya mi, bukan mie dan karena celor bukanlah kata yang perlu dikapitalisasi, maka penulisan celor haruslah menggunakan huruf kecil.</li></ul> <p>Saya ingin mendiskusikannya di sini sebelum mengambil tindakan. Terima kasih. <font color="green"><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hanamanteo" title="Pengguna:Hanamanteo">Hanamanteo</a></font> <a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Hanamanteo" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Hanamanteo"><font color="blue"><sup>Halaman pembicaraan saya</sup></font></a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z-Mi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11 Mei 2014 07.18 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z-Mi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z-Mi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gombang-2014-05-29T20:13:00.000Z-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z"></span>Maaf baru lihat. Langsung pindahkan saja sih. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Gombang" title="Pengguna:Gombang">Gombang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Gombang" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Gombang">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014#c-Gombang-2014-05-29T20:13:00.000Z-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 Mei 2014 20.13 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gombang-2014-05-29T20:13:00.000Z-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gombang-2014-05-29T20:13:00.000Z-Hanamanteo-2014-05-11T07:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Diperoleh dari "<a dir="ltr" href="https://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&oldid=12462896">https://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)/Arsip/Mei_2014&oldid=12462896</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Halaman ini terakhir diubah pada 10 Februari 2017, pukul 07.09.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Teks tersedia di bawah <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en">Lisensi Atribusi-BerbagiSerupa Creative Commons</a>; ketentuan tambahan mungkin berlaku. 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