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topic <a href="#Issues">Issues</a></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><p><small>Former discussions are available at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying/Flow" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Replying/Flow">Talk:Talk pages project/Replying/Flow</a>.</small> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LittleGun-20240310131300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Complete_signature_required-20240310131300","replies":["c-LittleGun-20240310131300-Complete_signature_required"],"text":"Complete signature required","linkableTitle":"Complete signature required"}--><h2 id="Complete_signature_required" data-mw-thread-id="h-Complete_signature_required-20240310131300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Complete_signature_required-20240310131300"></span>Complete signature required<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Complete_signature_required-20240310131300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tacsipacsi-20240310204900-LittleGun-20240310131300">8 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LittleGun-20240310131300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Complete_signature_required-20240310131300","replies":["c-LittleGun-20240310131300-Complete_signature_required"],"text":"Complete signature required","linkableTitle":"Complete signature required"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LittleGun-20240310131300-Complete_signature_required"></span>This has probably been aked before, but I do not know how to search among the topics: </p><p>When answering using "Edit source", and manually signing, the reply-link is only added if four tilde is used. If three tilde or five tilde is used the signature will lack time stamp or only be time stamp respectively. </p><p>Is this on purpose? There must be very few scenarios where three or five tilde is not also an attempt to be a signature, and never as final letters. <a href="/wiki/User:LittleGun" title="User:LittleGun">LittleGun</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LittleGun" title="User talk:LittleGun">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-LittleGun-20240310131300-Complete_signature_required" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LittleGun-20240310131300-Complete_signature_required"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LittleGun-20240310131300-Complete_signature_required"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20240310204900-LittleGun-20240310131300"></span>The whole data structure is based on the assumption that every comment has an author and a date. If only three tildes were used, it’s impossible to determine the date reliably; if five tildes were used, it’s impossible to determine the author reliably (remember that comments don’t stay forever where they were placed, they may be moved, archived etc., so using the page history is not reliable). Placing {{<a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Template:unsigned" title="Special:MyLanguage/Template:unsigned">Unsigned</a><span style="display:none"><a href="/wiki/Template:Unsigned" title="Template:Unsigned"> </a></span>}} after a such comment (with both author and timestamp filled) will make the reply link appear, which can be used to fix these incomplete signatures. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Tacsipacsi-20240310204900-LittleGun-20240310131300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20240310204900-LittleGun-20240310131300"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20240310204900-LittleGun-20240310131300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EnTerbury-20240404152200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ping_or_no_ping?-20240404152200","replies":["c-EnTerbury-20240404152200-Ping_or_no_ping?"],"text":"Ping or no ping?","linkableTitle":"Ping or no ping?"}--><h2 id="Ping_or_no_ping?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ping_or_no_ping?-20240404152200"><span id="Ping_or_no_ping.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ping_or_no_ping?-20240404152200"></span>Ping or no ping?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ping_or_no_ping?-20240404152200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jdforrester_(WMF)-20240404155200-EnTerbury-20240404152200">7 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EnTerbury-20240404152200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ping_or_no_ping?-20240404152200","replies":["c-EnTerbury-20240404152200-Ping_or_no_ping?"],"text":"Ping or no ping?","linkableTitle":"Ping or no ping?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EnTerbury-20240404152200-Ping_or_no_ping?"></span>Source: Using the automatic dropdown from typing "@" results in "@[[User:User|User]" being shown, from what I understand, manually typing this wouldn't result in a ping, so I think it's confusing. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EnTerbury&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EnTerbury (page does not exist)">EnTerbury</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EnTerbury&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:EnTerbury (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-EnTerbury-20240404152200-Ping_or_no_ping?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EnTerbury-20240404152200-Ping_or_no_ping?"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EnTerbury-20240404152200-Ping_or_no_ping?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jdforrester_(WMF)-20240404155200-EnTerbury-20240404152200"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EnTerbury&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EnTerbury (page does not exist)">EnTerbury</a>: It will result in a ping, I believe; this edit should be an example of that. <a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester_(WMF)" title="User:Jdforrester (WMF)">Jdforrester (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester_(WMF)" title="User talk:Jdforrester (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Jdforrester_(WMF)-20240404155200-EnTerbury-20240404152200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jdforrester_(WMF)-20240404155200-EnTerbury-20240404152200"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jdforrester_(WMF)-20240404155200-EnTerbury-20240404152200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-77.164.32.65-20240501074100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Leaving_the_browser-20240501074100","replies":["c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser"],"text":"Leaving the browser","linkableTitle":"Leaving the browser"}--><h2 id="Leaving_the_browser" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leaving_the_browser-20240501074100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leaving_the_browser-20240501074100"></span>Leaving the browser<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leaving_the_browser-20240501074100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser">6 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-77.164.32.65-20240501074100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Leaving_the_browser-20240501074100","replies":["c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser"],"text":"Leaving the browser","linkableTitle":"Leaving the browser"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser"></span>Hello, I use the Firefox browser and have the following problem in de.WP. When I double click on a word in order to create a link, then the browser asks me if I want to stay on the page or leave it loosing the content that I have entered. Thanks to the browser, I don't just leave the page (unintentionally) but can click on "stay on this page". - I have just noticed that this happens to me on de.WP, but not here on the mediawiki.org-wiki. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.164.32.65" title="Special:Contributions/77.164.32.65">77.164.32.65</a> <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 1 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-77.164.32.65-20240501074100-Leaving_the_browser"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Card_Zero-20240613182400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unwanted_nowiki_tags-20240613182400","replies":["c-Card_Zero-20240613182400-Unwanted_nowiki_tags"],"text":"Unwanted nowiki tags","linkableTitle":"Unwanted nowiki tags"}--><h2 id="Unwanted_nowiki_tags" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unwanted_nowiki_tags-20240613182400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unwanted_nowiki_tags-20240613182400"></span>Unwanted nowiki tags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unwanted_nowiki_tags-20240613182400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-TheDJ-20240613195700-Card_Zero-20240613182400">5 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Card_Zero-20240613182400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unwanted_nowiki_tags-20240613182400","replies":["c-Card_Zero-20240613182400-Unwanted_nowiki_tags"],"text":"Unwanted nowiki tags","linkableTitle":"Unwanted nowiki tags"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Card_Zero-20240613182400-Unwanted_nowiki_tags"></span>Something that happens very often: I paste an external URL into square brackets and add text for the link, and the reply gizmo silently wraps the whole thing in nowiki tags, which is evident in the preview but not in the source, despite being in "source" mode. There's a noticeable pause while it does the necessary malicious processing to cause this unwanted effect. Cutting and repasting makes no difference, it's still nowiki'd, like invisible tags came with it. What does work is to delete the link, tab away in the browser, copy the URL again, tab back, ''allow the edit to reload'' (seems crucial) and paste the link all over again: with luck, I won't get nowiki tags the second time. Edit: the apparent quote marks in that sentence were supposed to be italics, but they got nowiki'd! It's happening again! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Card_Zero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Card Zero (page does not exist)">Card Zero</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Card_Zero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Card Zero (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Card_Zero-20240613182400-Unwanted_nowiki_tags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Card_Zero-20240613182400-Unwanted_nowiki_tags"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Card_Zero-20240613182400-Unwanted_nowiki_tags"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDJ-20240613195700-Card_Zero-20240613182400"></span>Which browser, how did you copy the link ? Are you copying a link from an article, or from the browser url, or by right clicking a link and choosing copy ? etc etc. —<a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ (Not WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-TheDJ-20240613195700-Card_Zero-20240613182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDJ-20240613195700-Card_Zero-20240613182400"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDJ-20240613195700-Card_Zero-20240613182400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Smasongarrison-20240922155300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reply_formatting-20240922155300","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20240922155300-Reply_formatting"],"text":"Reply formatting","linkableTitle":"Reply formatting"}--><h2 id="Reply_formatting" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reply_formatting-20240922155300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reply_formatting-20240922155300"></span>Reply formatting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reply_formatting-20240922155300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Nardog-20240923030500-Smasongarrison-20240922155300">2 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Smasongarrison-20240922155300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reply_formatting-20240922155300","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20240922155300-Reply_formatting"],"text":"Reply formatting","linkableTitle":"Reply formatting"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20240922155300-Reply_formatting"></span>Would it be possible to tweak how indenting is handled? The current format breaks how indenting is handled on CFD. See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_22&diff=prev&oldid=1247052662">[1]</a> for a recent example of how my reply doesn't align with the typical formatting. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Smasongarrison&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Smasongarrison (page does not exist)">Smasongarrison</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Smasongarrison&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Smasongarrison (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Smasongarrison-20240922155300-Reply_formatting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20240922155300-Reply_formatting"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20240922155300-Reply_formatting"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nardog-20240923030500-Smasongarrison-20240922155300"></span>Currently no. This is tracked as <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259865" class="extiw" title="phab:T259865">phab:T259865</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nardog&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nardog (page does not exist)">Nardog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Nardog-20240923030500-Smasongarrison-20240922155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nardog-20240923030500-Smasongarrison-20240922155300"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nardog-20240923030500-Smasongarrison-20240922155300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Prototyperspective-20240924222300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Issues-20240924222300","replies":["c-Prototyperspective-20240924222300-Issues"],"text":"Issues","linkableTitle":"Issues"}--><h2 id="Issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Issues-20240924222300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Issues-20240924222300"></span>Issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Issues-20240924222300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Prototyperspective-20241026173200-Prototyperspective-20240924222300">1 month ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Prototyperspective-20240924222300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Issues-20240924222300","replies":["c-Prototyperspective-20240924222300-Issues"],"text":"Issues","linkableTitle":"Issues"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prototyperspective-20240924222300-Issues"></span>I don't know if it's better to report this directly only on phabricator or <a href="/wiki/Help_talk:DiscussionTools" title="Help talk:DiscussionTools">here</a> or whether this is already tracked (if so this could be archived): </p> <ul><li>When somebody screwed up intendation, ie with the source editor added a reply without intendation (same layer as original post), then it puts the reply above that comment that misses intendation when using the Reply tool instead of putting it at the bottom. I hope it's clear what I mean. It should put the reply in the correct layer at the bottom and maybe it could even fix the intendation of other comments.</li> <li>The reply button is missing in empty sections. I'm not entirely sure what I meant with that or which problem I had where the button was missing but I think e.g. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categorization_requests" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Categorization requests">here</a> there should also be a reply button in those sections that only have a header so one can use the Reply tool for replying instead of the source editor.</li> <li>It would probably be great if you could add a button to mark a section as solved to the options (see <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Section_resolved" class="extiw" title="c:Template:Section resolved">c:Template:Section resolved</a>).</li> <li>People often if not usually use a bullet point in deletion discussions. With the reply tool it moves the signature to a new line. Please enable that the signature can also be put into the same line somehow. Example solution: if a comment only has one bullet point but not multiple it should not add a newline at the end.</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Prototyperspective&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Prototyperspective (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Prototyperspective-20240924222300-Issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prototyperspective-20240924222300-Issues"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prototyperspective-20240924222300-Issues"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prototyperspective-20241026173200-Prototyperspective-20240924222300"></span>Also included the request for a mark as solved button in <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Wishes/Do_not_fully_archive_unsolved_issues_on_Talk_pages" class="extiw" title="meta:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Do not fully archive unsolved issues on Talk pages">meta:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Do not fully archive unsolved issues on Talk pages</a>. There's further issues (I'll add some below). If there's no phab issues for these I intend to submit code issues there later since I hope this could be moved from beta to become the default way people reply on talk pages with few exceptions. <ul><li>When using <gallery> it shows correctly in the preview but screws it up when publishing due to the intendation. See e.g. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/949550947" class="extiw" title="c:Special:Diff/949550947">c:Special:Diff/949550947</a>.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Prototyperspective&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Prototyperspective (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Prototyperspective-20241026173200-Prototyperspective-20240924222300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prototyperspective-20241026173200-Prototyperspective-20240924222300"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prototyperspective-20241026173200-Prototyperspective-20240924222300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bluetpp-20240928094700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button-20240928094700","replies":["c-Bluetpp-20240928094700-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button"],"text":"Inconsistency of the Reply button","linkableTitle":"Inconsistency of the Reply button"}--><h2 id="Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button" data-mw-thread-id="h-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button-20240928094700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button-20240928094700"></span>Inconsistency of the Reply button<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button-20240928094700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tacsipacsi-20240928204600-Bluetpp-20240928094700">1 month ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bluetpp-20240928094700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button-20240928094700","replies":["c-Bluetpp-20240928094700-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button"],"text":"Inconsistency of the Reply button","linkableTitle":"Inconsistency of the Reply button"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bluetpp-20240928094700-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button"></span>In the Discussion Namespace, the Reply button is a bold blue "Reply", but in the Wikipedia Namespace (for example <a class="external text" href="https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn/N%C3%A2ng_c%E1%BA%A5p_b%E1%BB%99_h%C6%B0%E1%BB%9Bng_d%E1%BA%ABn_%22H%C3%ACnh_%E1%BA%A3nh_c%E1%BB%A7a_ng%C3%A0y%22">this page</a>) the button becomes [ reply ]. A member in the Vietnamese community wants to ask about the reason of this inconsistency and wonder if we can make them the same button. Thank you very much. <a href="/wiki/User:Bluetpp" title="User:Bluetpp">Bluetpp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluetpp" title="User talk:Bluetpp">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Bluetpp-20240928094700-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bluetpp-20240928094700-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bluetpp-20240928094700-Inconsistency_of_the_Reply_button"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20240928204600-Bluetpp-20240928094700"></span>The technical reason is that the bold button is part of the so-called <a href="/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability" title="Talk pages project/Usability">usability improvements</a>, and usability improvements are enabled in non-talk namespaces (including the Wikipedia namespace) only if either <code>__NEWSECTIONLINK__</code> or <code>__ARCHIVEDTALK__</code> is present on the page (or both, but that doesn’t make much sense) – the mere presence of a comment doesn’t enable them. (Notice that <a href="https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn" class="extiw" title="vi:Wikipedia:Thảo luận">vi:Wikipedia:Thảo luận</a>, which is also in the Wikipedia namespace, but <em>does</em> have <code>__NEWSECTIONLINK__</code>, has the bold buttons.) I don’t know why it works this way, but maybe because signatures can also appear in policies and guidelines as examples? Also, it would likely be mostly uncontroversial to make the buttons bold everywhere by default, but the different styling of the headings and the lack of metadata (number of comments, last comment etc.) would remain. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Tacsipacsi-20240928204600-Bluetpp-20240928094700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20240928204600-Bluetpp-20240928094700"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20240928204600-Bluetpp-20240928094700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Feedback_on_reply_interface-20241002052000","replies":["c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface"],"text":"Feedback on reply interface","linkableTitle":"Feedback on reply interface"}--><h2 id="Feedback_on_reply_interface" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_on_reply_interface-20241002052000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_on_reply_interface-20241002052000"></span>Feedback on reply interface<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_on_reply_interface-20241002052000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface">1 month ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Feedback_on_reply_interface-20241002052000","replies":["c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface"],"text":"Feedback on reply interface","linkableTitle":"Feedback on reply interface"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface"></span>There's a bit too much going on with the reply widget for experienced editors. </p> <ul><li>I wish there was a preference to only use the source editor and not display the headerWrapper.</li> <li>I don't think the advanced toggle is necessary, or at least I wish the toggle could be disabled to always leave the advanced controls open. It takes up vertical space and pushes the edit summary box downwards, making it more likely that it's below the visible area of the screen.</li> <li>I wish there was a master preference agreeing to CC licensing so I don't need to see the notice for the ten-thousandth time. The notice also takes up vertical space.</li> <li>I found the "Preview" ::before text unnecessary, but I get that it's probably generally necessary.</li> <li>The borders for the preview and advanced sections should probably be the same, something a bit less bright, but not too bright (in dark mode).</li></ul> <p>To summarize: </p> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-css mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">ext-discussiontools-ui-replyWidget-headerWrapper</span><span class="o">,</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">span</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">ext-discussiontools-ui-replyWidget-advancedToggle</span><span class="o">,</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">ext-discussiontools-ui-replyWidget-actionsWrapper</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="p">{</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="k">display</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="kc">none</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="p">}</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">ext-discussiontools-ui-replyWidget-preview</span><span class="p">::</span><span class="nd">before</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="p">{</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="k">content</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="s2">""</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="p">}</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">ext-discussiontools-ui-replyWidget-preview</span><span class="o">,</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">ext-discussiontools-ui-replyWidget-advanced</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="p">{</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="k">border</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="mi">1</span><span class="kt">px</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="kc">solid</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nf">var</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="nv">--border-color-base</span><span class="p">)</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="cp">!important</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="p">}</span> </pre></div> <p>Thanks for all of the work on the interface. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Daniel_Quinlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Daniel Quinlan (page does not exist)">Daniel Quinlan</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Daniel_Quinlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Daniel Quinlan (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241002052000-Feedback_on_reply_interface"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-How_can_the_\"rich_formatting\"_popup_be_disabled?-20241003055000","replies":["c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_\"rich_formatting\"_popup_be_disabled?"],"text":"How can the \"rich formatting\" popup be disabled?","linkableTitle":"How can the \"rich formatting\" popup be disabled?"}--><h2 id="How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?-20241003055000"><span id="How_can_the_.22rich_formatting.22_popup_be_disabled.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?-20241003055000"></span>How can the "rich formatting" popup be disabled?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?-20241003055000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?">1 month ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-How_can_the_\"rich_formatting\"_popup_be_disabled?-20241003055000","replies":["c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_\"rich_formatting\"_popup_be_disabled?"],"text":"How can the \"rich formatting\" popup be disabled?","linkableTitle":"How can the \"rich formatting\" popup be disabled?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?"></span>I'm in the source editor and editing a template. I clearly don't want "rich formatting". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://imgur.com/nvz11VU">This is the popup in question</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Daniel_Quinlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Daniel Quinlan (page does not exist)">Daniel Quinlan</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Daniel_Quinlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Daniel Quinlan (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Replying#c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:50, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241003055000-How_can_the_"rich_formatting"_popup_be_disabled?"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐9b97dcdf7‐r6xzk Cached time: 20241125221357 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.014 seconds CPU time usage: 0.058 seconds Real time usage: 0.084 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 149/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 560/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 226/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 2/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 2359/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.003/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 663133/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 28.793 1 -total 100.00% 28.793 1 Template:Tl 83.33% 23.992 1 Template:Ll 65.56% 18.876 2 Template:Translatable 48.72% 14.028 1 Template:Pagelang 5.14% 1.480 1 Template:)) 4.96% 1.428 1 Template:(( --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key mediawikiwiki:pcache:idhash:1911247-0!canonical and timestamp 20241125221357 and revision id 6813103. 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