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Use the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal" title="Wikidata:Property proposal">current page</a>, even to continue an old discussion. </td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#BBC_Genome_identifier">1 BBC Genome identifier</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#listed_in">2 listed in</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#MalaCards_ID">3 MalaCards ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#natural_product_of_taxon">4 natural product of taxon</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#code_Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Nacional">5 code Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_Register_ID">6 Slovene Cultural Heritage Register ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#official_blog">7 official blog</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Pleiades_identifier">8 Pleiades identifier</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Municipality_code_of_Brazil">9 Municipality code of Brazil</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Desa_code_of_Indonesia">10 Desa code of Indonesia</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#latest_preview_version">11 latest preview version</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Pokémon_type">12 Pokémon type</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#number_of_injured">13 number of injured</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#number_of_casualties">14 number of casualties</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#defendant">15 defendant</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#prosecutor">16 prosecutor</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#defender">17 defender</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#judge">18 judge</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#charge">19 charge</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#penalty">20 penalty</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_designation">21 Slovene Cultural Heritage designation</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#consecrator">22 consecrator</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#deepest_point">23 deepest point</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Cambridge_Alumni_Database_ID">24 Cambridge Alumni Database ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#code_Inventari_del_Patrimoni_Arquitectònic_de_Catalunya">25 code Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Esperantist_number">26 Esperantist number</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#BBC_Your_Paintings_venue_identifier">27 BBC Your Paintings venue identifier</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#number_of_cases">28 number of cases</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#biosafety_level">29 biosafety level</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#natural_reservoir">30 natural reservoir</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#natural_reservoir_of">31 natural reservoir of</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#function_domain_Q192439_/_input_set_Template:Q1756942_of_a_relation_or_a_partial_function_/_codomain_/_output_set">32 function domain Q192439 / input set Template:Q1756942 of a relation or a partial function / codomain / output set</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Dialnet_author_/_Dialnet_book_/_Dialnet_journal_/_Dialnet_article">33 Dialnet author / Dialnet book / Dialnet journal / Dialnet article</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#IRC">34 IRC</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#CLARA">35 CLARA</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#SIREN_code">36 SIREN code</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#BBC_Things_identifer">37 BBC Things identifer</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#squad_number">38 squad number</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#date_of_official_opening">39 date of official opening</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#plaintiff">40 plaintiff</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#detail_map">41 detail map</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#drives_on_the">42 drives on the</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#MarineTraffic_Ship_ID">43 MarineTraffic Ship ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#MarineTraffic_Port_ID">44 MarineTraffic Port ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#has_melody">45 has melody</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-46"><a href="#Thai_cultural_heritage_ID">46 Thai cultural heritage ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#SIL_code">47 SIL code</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#Equivalent_property">48 Equivalent property</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#Subject_item">49 Subject item</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#Formatter_URL_/_/_/_URL_di_formattazione">50 Formatter URL / / / URL di formattazione</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#China_vitae_person's_ID">51 China vitae person's ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-52"><a href="#Hermann–Mauguin_notation">52 Hermann–Mauguin notation</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-53"><a href="#religious_name">53 religious name</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-54"><a href="#Baptism_date">54 Baptism date</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-55"><a href="#undercarriage">55 undercarriage</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-56"><a href="#working_title">56 working title</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-57"><a href="#Pendant_of">57 Pendant of</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-58"><a href="#Curator">58 Curator</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-59"><a href="#port">59 port</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-60"><a href="#acquisition_transaction">60 acquisition transaction</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-61"><a href="#departure_transaction">61 departure transaction</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-62"><a href="#mandatory_qualifier">62 mandatory qualifier</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-63"><a href="#subproperty_of">63 subproperty of</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-64"><a href="#see_also">64 see also</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-65"><a href="#AniDB_identifier">65 AniDB identifier</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-66"><a href="#BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier">66 BBC Your Paintings artwork identifier</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-67"><a href="#DOI_Prefix">67 DOI Prefix</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-68"><a href="#Alexa_rank">68 Alexa rank</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-69"><a href="#Total_valid_votes">69 Total valid votes</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-70"><a href="#well-known_inhabitant">70 well-known inhabitant</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-71"><a href="#Pinyin_transliteration">71 Pinyin transliteration</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-72"><a href="#Steam_ID">72 Steam ID</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-73"><a href="#unveiled_date">73 unveiled date</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-74"><a href="#art_identifier_for_artworks_from_Inventario_1890_for_the_Florentine_museums">74 art identifier for artworks from Inventario 1890 for the Florentine museums</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-75"><a href="#beats_per_minute">75 beats per minute</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-76"><a href="#id_Metacritic_film">76 id Metacritic film</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-77"><a href="#id_Metacritic_television">77 id Metacritic television</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-78"><a href="#id_Metacritic_video_game">78 id Metacritic video game</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-79"><a href="#id_Metacritic_album">79 id Metacritic album</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-80"><a href="#subtitle">80 subtitle</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-81"><a href="#Sächsische_Biografie">81 Sächsische Biografie</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="BBC_Genome_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-BBC_Genome_identifier-2014-10-16T07:22:00.000Z">BBC Genome identifier</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2262253935">.mw-parser-output .property-navibox{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);border:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);outline:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);padding:4px}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:right;margin:0}body.rtl .mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li{display:inline;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:after{display:inline;content:" – "}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:last-child:after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main{overflow-x:auto}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox table{display:table;overflow-x:visible}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main tr{vertical-align:text-top}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="ltr"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-right:1em;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="rtl"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-left:1em;text-align:right}@media(max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{display:flex;flex-direction:column-reverse}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>td,.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>th{display:block}}</style><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1573" title="Property:P1573">BBC Genome ID</a> (P1573) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1573" title="Property talk:P1573">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Identifier for a single episode/ programme in the BBC Genome database of Radio Times programme listings, <a href="/wiki/Q18289539" title="Q18289539">BBC Genome (Q18289539)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>none yet, but used in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wp:Template:BBC_Genome_prog" class="extiw" title="en:wp:Template:BBC Genome prog">en:wp:Template:BBC Genome prog</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>BBC Television and radio programmes</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>strings</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7732049" title="Q7732049">The End (Q7732049)</a> = 80e68eee3d7d4965b02ec5d443ef2fd4 (from the URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/80e68eee3d7d4965b02ec5d443ef2fd4">http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/80e68eee3d7d4965b02ec5d443ef2fd4</a> )</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>tbc</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/">http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> The BBC have <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/Genome-The-Radio-Times-Archive-is-now-live">just launched</a> their <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/">Genome</a> database of all their broadcast programmes, based on listings in the Radio Times. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-16T07:22:00.000Z-BBC_Genome_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support But I would change the name to "BBC Radio Genome identifier", otherwise it seems to have something to do with genomes.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T09:48:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-16T07:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:48, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>These identifiers are not just for radio programmes. I don't see any realistic possibility of harm from such a misunderstanding. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-18T10:57:00.000Z-Micru-2014-10-18T09:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support clearly useful. If anyone wishes to educate me, I'm curious whether this also falls under <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control</a> or not. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Linksvayer" title="User:Mike Linksvayer">Mike Linksvayer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Linksvayer" title="User talk:Mike Linksvayer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mike_Linksvayer-2014-10-18T20:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-16T07:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I can't see a statement of scope on that page. Strictly, Genome is not an Authority Control service; practically its IDs can function in that way, though semantically, they refer to a listing entry, not a programme. <a href="/wiki/Q17361898" title="Q17361898">BBC programme ID (Q17361898)</a> (see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Programme_Identifier" class="extiw" title="en:BBC Programme Identifier">en:BBC Programme Identifier</a>) performs that function better, but for a much smaller (post 2007, mainly) set of BBC programmes. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-19T00:01:00.000Z-Mike_Linksvayer-2014-10-18T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Linksvayer" title="User:Mike Linksvayer"><bdi>Mike Linksvayer</bdi></a>:--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-21T16:53:00.000Z-BBC_Genome_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="listed_in" data-mw-thread-id="h-listed_in-2014-08-12T13:26:00.000Z">listed in</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>identifies lists for items, inverse of <a href="/wiki/Property:P360" title="Property:P360">is a list of (P360)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>items that are real lists-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>any item that is not itself a list</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>items that are real lists</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q17308006" title="Q17308006">island of Japan</a> => listed in=> <a href="/wiki/Q1125331" title="Q1125331">list of islands of Japan</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Externe Referenzen, Listenartikel in der Wikipedia (entweder Infobox oder Quelle)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Führen Bots oder Helferlein irgendwelche Tätigkeiten mit dieser Eigenschaft aus oder sollten sie solche Tätigkeiten ausführen? (etwa in dem sie andere Eigenschaften auf Konsistenz überprüfen, Daten sammeln etc.)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Motivation. We need this property to link items to their lists.<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-08-12T13:26:00.000Z-listed_in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Question: I fail to see why we need to link items to lists. And I fail to see the purpose of items such as <a href="/wiki/Q17308006" title="Q17308006">island of Japan (Q17308006)</a> in the example. The items for any Japanese island, can just have statements declaring them to be 1) Japanese, and 2) islands, so why should they need <a href="/wiki/Q17308006" title="Q17308006">island of Japan (Q17308006)</a>? Please explain, regards <a href="/wiki/User:Dipsacus_fullonum" title="User:Dipsacus fullonum">Dipsacus fullonum</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dipsacus_fullonum" title="User talk:Dipsacus fullonum">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Dipsacus_fullonum-2014-08-15T23:40:00.000Z-Oursana-2014-08-12T13:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/> Not done Lack of support and probably redundant with queries.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T08:53:00.000Z-listed_in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="MalaCards_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-MalaCards_ID-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z">MalaCards ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1583" title="Property:P1583">MalaCards ID</a> (P1583) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1583" title="Property talk:P1583">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Identifier in the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://malacards.org/">Malacards database of diseases</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>string (other health conditions?)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><code class="nowrap" style="">|MalaCard=</code>, just added to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_disease" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox disease">en:Template:Infobox disease</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Diseases</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Slugs from existing MalaCards URLs</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q190564" title="Q190564">Huntington's disease (Q190564)</a> => huntingtons_disease (resolves to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://malacards.org/card/huntingtons_disease">http://malacards.org/card/huntingtons_disease</a> )</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>tbc</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://malacards.org/">http://malacards.org/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Molecular_and_Cellular_Biology/Proposals#MalaCards_-_www.malacards.org" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology/Proposals">discussion at en.WP</a>. Alternative property name could be "MalaCard". <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z-MalaCards_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jmh649" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jmh649">Doc James</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry">Bluerasberry</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gambo7" title="User:Gambo7">Gambo7</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrux" title="User:Andrux">Andrux</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pavel_Du%C5%A1ek" title="User:Pavel Dušek">Pavel Dušek</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jtuom" title="User:Jtuom">User:Jtuom</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cmungall" title="User:Cmungall">Chris Mungall</a> <a href="/wiki/User:ChristianKl" title="User:ChristianKl">ChristianKl</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gstupp" title="User:Gstupp">Gstupp</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Sintakso" title="User:Sintakso">Sintakso</a> <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="User:علاء">علاء</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Adert" title="User:Adert">Adert</a> <a href="/wiki/User:CFCF" title="User:CFCF">CFCF</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jtuom" title="User:Jtuom">Jtuom</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Drchriswilliams" title="User:Drchriswilliams">Drchriswilliams</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Okkn" title="User:Okkn">Okkn</a> <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU">CAPTAIN RAJU</a> <a href="/wiki/User:LeadSongDog" title="User:LeadSongDog">LeadSongDog</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Marsupium" title="User:Marsupium">Marsupium</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain" title="User:Netha Hussain">Netha Hussain</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Abhijeet_Safai" title="User:Abhijeet Safai">Abhijeet Safai</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Seppi333" title="User:Seppi333">Seppi333</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Esh77" title="User:Esh77">Shani Evenstein</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Csisc" title="User:Csisc">Csisc</a> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a> <a href="/wiki/User:ZI_Jony" title="User:ZI Jony">ZI Jony</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Antoine2711" title="User:Antoine2711">Antoine2711</a> <a href="/wiki/User:JustScienceJS" title="User:JustScienceJS">JustScienceJS</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Scossin" title="User:Scossin">Scossin</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josegustavomartins&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josegustavomartins (page does not exist)">Josegustavomartins</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Zeromonk" title="User:Zeromonk">Zeromonk</a> <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kasyap" title="User:Kasyap">Kasyap</a> <a href="/wiki/User:JMagalh%C3%A3es" title="User:JMagalhães">JMagalhães</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ameer_Fauri" title="User:Ameer Fauri">Ameer Fauri</a> <a href="/wiki/User:CorraleH" title="User:CorraleH">CorraleH</a> </div><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Medicine/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Medicine/Participants">participants of WikiProject Medicine</a> -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-27T16:31:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I support the property and the inclusion in Wikidata, but the inclusion in the disease-infobox on en-wiki is, and the same goes for all those cryptic identifiers, a sub-optimal usage of infoboxes. 99 % of readers will not read those codes, nor follow the links to the sites, which are usually intended to be consumed by experts. In my opinion the infobox should give basic information to basic questions a reader might have: "how can I get this disease?", "how do I know I have it?", "is it treatable?". Even if we simplify, what is a very complex multi-variate system, we can still offer a quick overview and link to the sections within the text, where we can place all the statistic information and the "and, or, if else" information. I would rather have some over-simplified information and guide the reader to the appropriate section than these codes which probably lead many people to give up reading the information in the first place. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-27T16:31:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>That's not really relevant here, but thanks for your support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T18:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-27T16:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I support the property as the data linked to clearly looks valuable. However, I do have some reservations based on their licensing.. "If you are not an academic non-profit institution, in order to access and use MalaCards, you must obtain a license by paying applicable licensing fees". – <bdi lang="en">The preceding <a href="/wiki/Q4663253" title="Q4663253">unsigned</a> comment was added by <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User:Genewiki123" title="User:Genewiki123">Genewiki123</a></bdi> (<bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Genewiki123" title="User talk:Genewiki123">talk</a></bdi> • <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Genewiki123" title="Special:Contributions/Genewiki123">contribs</a></bdi>).</bdi> <dl><dd>I'll put that to them, but like many website ToU's they're unenforceable legalistic bullshit ("these ToU shall constitute a legally binding agreement between you and YEDA"). Not to worry, as all we'd be storing is, effectively, URLs. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T18:48:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I support the addition of the property in Wikidata, their data look quite comprehensive, as long as there is no issue with the licensing. What I'd like to discuss more is what should be in the infoboxes of Wikipedia, as <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> mentioned above. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">Emitraka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emitraka-2014-10-28T02:30:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 28 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, precisely per Tobias1984. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-10-28T11:45:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Genewiki123" title="User:Genewiki123"><bdi>Genewiki123</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw"><bdi>Emw</bdi></a>: --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-28T19:02:00.000Z-MalaCards_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 28 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="natural_product_of_taxon" data-mw-thread-id="h-natural_product_of_taxon-2014-08-17T12:31:00.000Z">natural product of taxon</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1582" title="Property:P1582">natural product of taxon</a> (P1582) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1582" title="Property talk:P1582">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>links a natural product with its source (animal, plant, fungal, algal, etc)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>all</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>all</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q17329207" title="Q17329207">Zinfandel wine (Q17329207)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q204433" title="Q204433">Zinfandel (Q204433)</a> ; <a href="/wiki/Q188774" title="Q188774">ambergris (Q188774)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q81214" title="Q81214">sperm whale (Q81214)</a> ; <a href="/wiki/Q12190" title="Q12190">penicillin (Q12190)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q843136" title="Q843136">Penicillium (Q843136)</a> ; <a href="/wiki/Q818405" title="Q818405">linseed oil (Q818405)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q45108" title="Q45108">Linum usitatissimum (Q45108)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> This property will be used to separate the plant from the fruit it produces. In cases like wine making, it makes no sense to say that the wine is made out of the plant, but out of the fruit. The inverse property (fruit of) is also needed. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-08-17T12:31:00.000Z-natural_product_of_taxon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment - I think that "fruit of" would be the better property as most properties go this direction (e.g. part of, subclass of). We don't really need the inverse property because it is a simple query. Just to be critical we should also consider making a qualifier to "part of" which could be named "part concerned --> fruit". Also: how well is "fruit" defined in Biology? -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-08-17T12:39:00.000Z-Micru-2014-08-17T12:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/15px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/> <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Taxonomy/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Taxonomy/Participants">WikiProject Taxonomy</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Taxonomy" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Taxonomy">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-08-17T12:39:00.000Z-Micru-2014-08-17T12:31:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>perhaps better "product of". It is not just fruits, but also seeds, leaves, roots, wood, etc. It is possible for one plant to yield more than one product (flax gives oil and fiber). And fruits are well definied in biology but this does not match with the culinary definition (tomatos are fruits biologically, but a vegetable culinary; strawberries are fruits culinary, but not biologically, etc). Also, the same may apply to animals; should there be two properties or just one? - <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya">Brya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brya" title="User talk:Brya">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Brya-2014-08-17T13:03:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-08-17T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 17 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya"><bdi>Brya</bdi></a>: I have realized that we have the property <a href="/wiki/Property:P1056" title="Property:P1056">product, material, or service produced or provided (P1056)</a> but only for manufacturing, I think it could be generalized. As for this one I have changed the label to "product of" which is generic enough to cover all cases. What do you think?--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-08-22T13:05:00.000Z-Brya-2014-08-17T13:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya"><bdi>Brya</bdi></a>: seems useful for all kind of processes. we almoest could have a input/output property pairs, for maths I'll suggest a function range / function domain property pair. <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-TomT0m-2014-08-22T13:52:00.000Z-Micru-2014-08-22T13:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Good. I would like it to be limited to products of living things. That is big enough. Generalizing it more may lead to unforeseen complications. - <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya">Brya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brya" title="User talk:Brya">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Brya-2014-08-22T17:30:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-08-17T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 22 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya"><bdi>Brya</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>: With the current name this property will be used in a lot of places. But after a few months we might be able to see patterns in the data and will be able to split it into different properties (Or we might see that we don't have any problems. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-08-24T09:29:00.000Z-Brya-2014-08-22T17:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya"><bdi>Brya</bdi></a>: What do you think of calling it "raw product of" without limitation to living organisms? That way we'd avoid unintended uses, or we could create two properties at once, the other one being "manufactured product of". One of the examples reads <a href="/wiki/Q17329207" title="Q17329207">Zinfandel wine (Q17329207)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q204433" title="Q204433">Zinfandel (Q204433)</a>, and that is actually a manufactured product since it requires a human-staged process.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-08-24T11:50:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-08-24T09:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>: I don't like the look of "raw product of", and was thinking of either "natural product of" or "product of taxon"? - <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya">Brya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brya" title="User talk:Brya">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Brya-2014-08-24T14:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-08-17T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 24 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya"><bdi>Brya</bdi></a>: Changed the label to "natural product of taxon". If there are no objections, I will create it in a couple of days.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-19T10:17:00.000Z-Brya-2014-08-24T14:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>OK. - <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya">Brya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brya" title="User talk:Brya">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Brya-2014-10-19T10:20:00.000Z-Micru-2014-10-19T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T14:52:00.000Z-Micru-2014-08-17T12:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - belatedly. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T22:04:00.000Z-Micru-2014-08-17T12:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done @<a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya"><bdi>Brya</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><bdi>AmaryllisGardener</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>:.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-28T18:45:00.000Z-natural_product_of_taxon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Good, this is progress. - <a href="/wiki/User:Brya" title="User:Brya">Brya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brya" title="User talk:Brya">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Brya-2014-10-29T06:39:00.000Z-Micru-2014-10-28T18:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:39, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="code_Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Nacional" data-mw-thread-id="h-code_Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Nacional-2014-10-27T19:59:00.000Z">code Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1586" title="Property:P1586">Catalan object of cultural interest ID</a> (P1586) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1586" title="Property talk:P1586">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Cultural property identifier for <a href="/wiki/Q1019352" title="Q1019352">Cultural Asset of National Interest (Q1019352)</a> in Catalonia</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1019352" title="Q1019352">Cultural Asset of National Interest</a> (Q1019352)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>field "identificador" in <a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Infotaula_patrimoni_cultural" class="extiw" title="ca:Plantilla:Infotaula patrimoni cultural">ca:Plantilla:Infotaula patrimoni cultural</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>places: cultural properties in Catalonia</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>monuments</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q48435" title="Q48435">Sagrada Família (Q48435)</a> -> 53-MH (register number)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>up to 4 numbers, dash, two letters</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Wiki_Loves_Monuments" class="extiw" title="ca:Portal:Wiki Loves Monuments">ca:Portal:Wiki Loves Monuments</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:KRLS" title="User:KRLS">KRLS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KRLS" title="User talk:KRLS">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> It would be used to store WLM data that at the moment is not on Wikidata. <a href="/wiki/User:KRLS" title="User:KRLS">KRLS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KRLS" title="User talk:KRLS">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-KRLS-2014-10-27T19:59:00.000Z-code_Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Nacional" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - but please populate Q1019352. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T21:15:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-27T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-30T21:39:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-27T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Davidpar" title="User:Davidpar">Davidpar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidpar" title="User talk:Davidpar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Davidpar-2014-10-31T15:14:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-27T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T16:56:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-27T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_Register_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_Register_ID-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z">Slovene Cultural Heritage Register ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1587" title="Property:P1587">Slovene Cultural Heritage Register ID</a> (P1587) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1587" title="Property talk:P1587">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>reference number in the Slovene Immobile Cultural Heritage Register (RKD)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q12794452" title="Q12794452">cultural monument of Slovenia</a> (Q12794452)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"refšt" in <a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infopolje_RKD" class="extiw" title="sl:Template:Infopolje RKD">sl:Template:Infopolje RKD</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>various types of buildings, monuments, objects, landscapes, settlements etc.; too many to list specifically</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>1-5 digits not preceded by 0</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2075156" title="Q2075156">Ljubljana Castle (Q2075156)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://giskd2s.situla.org/rkd/Opis.asp?Esd=340">340</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://rkd.situla.org/">http://rkd.situla.org/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>a bot might extract the value <code>refšt = x</code> from linked articles with <a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infopolje_RKD" class="extiw" title="sl:Template:Infopolje RKD">sl:Template:Infopolje RKD</a>, if somebody's willing to program it. Some 600 have already been entered in articles manually.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo">Yerpo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yerpo" title="User talk:Yerpo">Eh?</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> See above for motivation. This one could also be useful to track subjects of an eventual Wiki Loves Monuments competition (not organized in the country yet because the lack of FOP is a problem, but it should be overcome some day). — <a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo">Yerpo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yerpo" title="User talk:Yerpo">Eh?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z-Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_Register_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support But datatype has to be string. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-29T19:11:00.000Z-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>You're right, I fixed the proposal. — <a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo">Yerpo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yerpo" title="User talk:Yerpo">Eh?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Yerpo-2014-10-29T19:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-29T19:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T16:59:00.000Z-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="official_blog" data-mw-thread-id="h-official_blog-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z">official blog</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1581" title="Property:P1581">official blog URL</a> (P1581) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1581" title="Property talk:P1581">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>url to the blog of this person or organization</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>URL or Item-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Official_blog" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Official blog">en:Template:Official blog</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons, businesses</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>URL or Item</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>example: <a href="/wiki/Q630446" title="Q630446">John Green (Q630446)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com/">[1]</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q35525" title="Q35525">White House (Q35525)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog">[2]</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Q18198625" title="Q18198625">Gil Garduño (Q18198625)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q17492673" title="Q17492673">Gil's Thrilling (And Filling) Blog (Q17492673)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Perhaps a bot could search a URL for its feed, for Tumblr and Wordpress this would be simple to set up.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:DunDunDunt" title="User:DunDunDunt">DunDunDunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DunDunDunt" title="User talk:DunDunDunt">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> This would be genuinely helpful for modern authors, musicians, and maybe even corporations that maintain blogs seperate from their official websites. <a href="/wiki/User:DunDunDunt" title="User:DunDunDunt">DunDunDunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DunDunDunt" title="User talk:DunDunDunt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-DunDunDunt-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z-official_blog" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T10:30:00.000Z-DunDunDunt-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T14:45:00.000Z-DunDunDunt-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support sounds sensible--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2014-10-26T08:08:00.000Z-DunDunDunt-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>Why not use 'Official website', with a qualifier? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-25T19:42:00.000Z-DunDunDunt-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>official blog and official website are a little bit different entities. Also maintaining, adding, using and etc. different properties is more simple, this is importaint for popular properties like this. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2014-10-27T18:40:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-25T19:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Thank you. I understand the differences, but you haven't said convincingly why we need separate properties, rather than the 'qualifier' solution I proposed. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-27T21:18:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2014-10-27T18:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2014-10-27T18:40:00.000Z-DunDunDunt-2014-10-08T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done @<a href="/wiki/User:DunDunDunt" title="User:DunDunDunt"><bdi>DunDunDunt</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><bdi>AmaryllisGardener</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)"><bdi>Ivan A. Krestinin</bdi></a>: --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-28T18:40:00.000Z-official_blog" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 28 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Pleiades_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pleiades_identifier-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z">Pleiades identifier</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1584" title="Property:P1584">Pleiades ID</a> (P1584) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1584" title="Property talk:P1584">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The Pleiades identifier for a place</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2221906" title="Q2221906">geographic location (Q2221906)</a> (place)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>all existing Pleiades identifiers for places</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3267409" class="mw-redirect" title="Q3267409">Luna (Q3267409)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/403235">403235</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q1136193" title="Q1136193">Gortyn (Q1136193)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/589796">589796</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://pleiades.stoa.org/">http://pleiades.stoa.org/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Steko" title="User:Steko">Steko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steko" title="User talk:Steko">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Pleiades is "a community-built gazetteer and graph of ancient places" collecting more than 34,000 places of the Ancient world (mostly Greek-Roman but expanding to other regions and periods). Each place is given a unique URI. Resources available for each place include geographic locations, names and references. In some cases DBPedia/Wikipedia are linked as references, facilitating the semi-automated addition of data here. As of now an experimental alignment with GeoNames has been tried <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ryanfb/pleiades-plus">https://github.com/ryanfb/pleiades-plus</a> . Either the full URI or the numeric ID could be used as property value. As the author of this proposal I also disclose that I am a contributor and reviewer of Pleiades. <a href="/wiki/User:Steko" title="User:Steko">Steko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steko" title="User talk:Steko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Steko-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z-Pleiades_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>For similar indices we have used the 'string' datatype to just store the code number rather than storing the full 'URI'. A little automagic is then used to turn this into a 'URI'. That way a change in the make-up of the URI can be accommodated without having to change every instance. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-08-28T05:24:00.000Z-Steko-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 28 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yes, that makes sense, even though Pleiades URIs are meant to be "cool URIs" that won't change, they aren't really special compared to e.g. VIAF ones. Feel free to edit the proposal as you see fit - especially for the datatype and example usage. Thank you for your feedback.--<a href="/wiki/User:Steko" title="User:Steko">Steko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steko" title="User talk:Steko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Steko-2014-09-01T15:33:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-08-28T05:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>I have changed the dataype. The example is still using URLs to be more clear.--<a href="/wiki/User:Steko" title="User:Steko">Steko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steko" title="User talk:Steko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Steko-2014-09-03T16:43:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-08-28T05:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-21T07:25:00.000Z-Steko-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Eurodyne" title="User:Eurodyne">Eurodyne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eurodyne" title="User talk:Eurodyne">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Eurodyne-2014-10-29T19:57:00.000Z-Steko-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-29T20:30:00.000Z-Steko-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Steko" title="User:Steko"><bdi>Steko</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Eurodyne" title="User:Eurodyne"><bdi>Eurodyne</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec">Jakob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jakec" title="User talk:Jakec">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jakec-2014-10-30T19:24:00.000Z-Steko-2014-08-19T13:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Municipality_code_of_Brazil" data-mw-thread-id="h-Municipality_code_of_Brazil-2014-07-10T01:11:00.000Z">Municipality code of Brazil</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1585" title="Property:P1585">Brazilian municipality code</a> (P1585) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1585" title="Property talk:P1585">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Brazilian municipality code (IBGE)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>unknown, not yet implemented</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3184121" title="Q3184121">municipality of Brazil (Q3184121)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Art der verlinkten Objekte (Q-Vorlage oder Text), eine Liste der möglichen Werte oder ein Wertebereich, Muster für Strings etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a class="external free" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrel%C3%A2ndia">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrel%C3%A2ndia</a> (provisional, bottom infobox)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>(Beispiel: eine siebenstellige Zahl kann mit dem <a href="/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/17" title="Special:AbuseFilter/17">Missbrauchsfilter 17</a> überprüft werden)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>complete list: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.lgncontabil.com.br/icms/Tabela-Codigo-de-Municipio-do-IBGE.pdf">http://www.lgncontabil.com.br/icms/Tabela-Codigo-de-Municipio-do-IBGE.pdf</a> - search formula IBGE: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ibge.gov.br/home/geociencias/areaterritorial/area.shtm">http://www.ibge.gov.br/home/geociencias/areaterritorial/area.shtm</a> -</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>none</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emeritus" title="User:Emeritus">Emeritus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emeritus" title="User talk:Emeritus">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Das IBGE, Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (Q268072), hat sämtlichen municípios, vergleichbar unseren Gemeinden (Q3184121) als territoriale Verwaltungseinheit eines brasilianischen Bundesstaates, einen eindeutigen 7-stelligen Code vergeben, beginnend mit der 2-stelligen Bundesstaatnummer. Es handelt sich um 5.570 municípios. Unter diesen Codierungen sind sämtliche statistische Angaben zu einer Gemeinde in den Datenbanken des IBGE abrufbar, diese Seiten werden mit den Ortsartikeln verlinkt. Die Verankerung (parameter) in den Infoboxen (in der de:WP zu brasilianischen Orten ist vorgesehen - neue erweiterte Infobox), ebenso wird sie bereits bei Ortsartikel in der pt:WP unsichtbar erfasst, aber wird z.B. in Q14407124 noch nicht angezeigt (dortiger Änderungsantrag in der pt:WP ist ebenfalls notwendig). Vergleichbar sind: P771 Schweiz, P911 Südafrika, P964 Österreich. Do not confuse with (Q17294166) for Portugal. Motivation? Like to bring some life into <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Country_subdivision_task_force/Brazil" title="Wikidata:Country subdivision task force/Brazil">Wikidata:Country subdivision task force/Brazil</a>, step one. <a href="/wiki/User:Emeritus" title="User:Emeritus">Emeritus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emeritus" title="User talk:Emeritus">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emeritus-2014-07-10T01:11:00.000Z-Municipality_code_of_Brazil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 10 July 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T09:12:00.000Z-Emeritus-2014-07-10T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pasleim-2014-10-26T17:46:00.000Z-Emeritus-2014-07-10T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment The datatype should be string instead of number. --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pasleim-2014-10-26T17:48:00.000Z-Emeritus-2014-07-10T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Emeritus" title="User:Emeritus"><bdi>Emeritus</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim"><bdi>Pasleim</bdi></a>: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as a string. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec">Jakob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jakec" title="User talk:Jakec">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jakec-2014-10-30T19:28:00.000Z-Emeritus-2014-07-10T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Desa_code_of_Indonesia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Desa_code_of_Indonesia-2014-09-04T09:37:00.000Z">Desa code of Indonesia</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1588" title="Property:P1588">Statistics Indonesia area code</a> (P1588) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1588" title="Property talk:P1588">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Code of an Indonesia adminstrative unit</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>nl.wikipedia: 'Infobox plaats in Indonesië' code desa</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2225692" title="Q2225692">fourth-level administrative division in Indonesia (Q2225692)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number (based on concatenating Provinceid xx, Regency yy, Districtid zzz, VillageId within district, qqq). Code for Villages thus contains 10 digits.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>See infobox in <a class="external free" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carangsari">https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carangsari</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.bps.go.id/">http://www.bps.go.id/</a> (Statistics Indonesia)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>none</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Michiel1972" title="User:Michiel1972">Michiel1972</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> A desa is an administrative village in Indonesia. Each entity has a code desa used in statistics. masin use is for villages, although property can also be used for indicating regency or subdistrict (shorter number). A string is used instead of number (because code of a subdistrict starts with 0, e.g. 030). <a href="/wiki/User:Michiel1972" title="User:Michiel1972">Michiel1972</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michiel1972" title="User talk:Michiel1972">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Michiel1972-2014-09-04T09:37:00.000Z-Desa_code_of_Indonesia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 4 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T09:12:00.000Z-Michiel1972-2014-09-04T09:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pasleim-2014-10-26T17:51:00.000Z-Michiel1972-2014-09-04T09:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T17:10:00.000Z-Michiel1972-2014-09-04T09:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="latest_preview_version" data-mw-thread-id="h-latest_preview_version-2014-07-12T12:05:00.000Z">latest preview version</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>latest preview version of software or game</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q49740" title="Q49740">Minecraft (Q49740)</a> <a href="/wiki/Q1386527" title="Q1386527">FAR Manager (Q1386527)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q698" title="Q698">Firefox (Q698)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q777" title="Q777">Google Chrome (Q777)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>text, Q</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td>MISSING</td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td>MISSING</td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td>MISSING</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dimon4ezzz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dimon4ezzz (page does not exist)">Dimon4ezzz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dimon4ezzz" title="User talk:Dimon4ezzz">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Мотивация <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dimon4ezzz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dimon4ezzz (page does not exist)">Dimon4ezzz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dimon4ezzz" title="User talk:Dimon4ezzz">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Dimon4ezzz-2014-07-12T12:05:00.000Z-latest_preview_version" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 12 July 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose. We have <a href="/wiki/Property:P348" title="Property:P348">software version identifier (P348)</a>, it could be renamed to "last version" with qualificator <a href="/wiki/Property:P642" title="Property:P642">of (P642)</a> related to stable version (by default) or to <a href="/wiki/Q14946400" class="mw-redirect" title="Q14946400">beta version (Q14946400)</a> for beta versions. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Vlsergey" title="User:Vlsergey">Vlsergey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vlsergey" title="User talk:Vlsergey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Vlsergey-2014-07-21T07:52:00.000Z-Dimon4ezzz-2014-07-12T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/> Not done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T17:16:00.000Z-Dimon4ezzz-2014-07-12T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Pokémon_type" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pokémon_type-2014-09-25T08:57:00.000Z">Pokémon type</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Pokémon elemental characteristic</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any Pokémon</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Normal, fire, water, grass, electric, ice, fighting, poison, ground, flying, psychic, bug, rock, ghost, dragon, dark, steel and fairy (potentially also shadow and ???). Each entries will be create if the property is approved. No more than two values by Pokémon.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><<a href="/wiki/Q847571" title="Q847571">Bulbasaur</a>> Pokémon type <grass></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>in-game informations from the Pokémon games</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>Ju gatsu mikka</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> I would like to make Pokémon items as complete as possible with as many data as needed to. <a href="/wiki/User:Ju_gatsu_mikka" title="User:Ju gatsu mikka">Ju gatsu mikka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ju_gatsu_mikka" title="User talk:Ju gatsu mikka">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ju_gatsu_mikka-2014-09-25T08:57:00.000Z-Pokémon_type" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose "Type" properties are discouraged. Use <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of (P279)</a> to build the ontology. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-09-29T15:27:00.000Z-Ju_gatsu_mikka-2014-09-25T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose per Tobias. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-09-29T16:02:00.000Z-Ju_gatsu_mikka-2014-09-25T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/> Not done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T17:17:00.000Z-Ju_gatsu_mikka-2014-09-25T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="number_of_injured" data-mw-thread-id="h-number_of_injured-2014-09-28T14:26:00.000Z">number of injured</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>number of people who were non-fatally injured in this event</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>'total_fatalties' in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox aircraft occurrence">Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence</a>. Possible to scrape values from the semi-structured parameters 'casualties1', 'casualties2', 'casualties3' in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_military_conflict" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox military conflict">Template:Infobox_military_conflict</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1656682" title="Q1656682">event (Q1656682)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>non-negative numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q223288" title="Q223288">Tenerife airport disaster (Q223288)</a> number of injured 61</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>See 'infobox parameter' values above. Also other non-structured data supported by reliable sources.</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>See 'infobox parameter' values above.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Like <a href="/wiki/Property:P1120" title="Property:P1120">number of deaths (P1120)</a>, this property would be used to track basic data about the human cost of accidents, natural disasters, military conflicts and other events. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-09-28T14:26:00.000Z-number_of_injured" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 28 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Could be useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:Eurodyne" title="User:Eurodyne">Eurodyne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eurodyne" title="User talk:Eurodyne">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Eurodyne-2014-10-07T14:12:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Strong support highly important property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec">Jakob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jakec" title="User talk:Jakec">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jakec-2014-10-11T21:58:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><s><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:00:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></s></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment @<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec"><bdi>Jakec</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Eurodyne" title="User:Eurodyne"><bdi>Eurodyne</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw"><bdi>Emw</bdi></a>: Waiiit a minute... <a href="/wiki/Property:P1339" title="Property:P1339">number of injured (P1339)</a>, created in June, by Jakob. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:06:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="number_of_casualties" data-mw-thread-id="h-number_of_casualties-2014-09-28T14:38:00.000Z">number of casualties</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1590" title="Property:P1590">number of casualties</a> (P1590) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1590" title="Property talk:P1590">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>number of people dead or injured because of this event. Used when precise data on number of deaths and number of injured is unavailable.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>'casualties' in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_earthquake" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox earthquake">Template:Infobox_earthquake</a>, likely others</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1190554" title="Q1190554">occurrence (Q1190554)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>non-negative numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q130754" title="Q130754">2004 Indian Ocean earthquake (Q130754)</a> number of casualties 280,000</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>See 'infobox parameter' value above. Also non-structured data from reliable sources.</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>See 'infobox parameter' value above.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> In disasters, it is often unclear how many of those adversely affected are dead and how many are injured. In such cases the term "casualty" is used. This property would be used in cases where data for <a href="/wiki/Property:P1120" title="Property:P1120">number of deaths (P1120)</a> and number of casualties (see proposal above) are unavailable. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-09-28T14:38:00.000Z-number_of_casualties" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Eurodyne" title="User:Eurodyne">Eurodyne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eurodyne" title="User talk:Eurodyne">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Eurodyne-2014-10-17T00:24:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 17 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:03:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:25:00.000Z-Emw-2014-09-28T14:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="defendant" data-mw-thread-id="h-defendant-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z">defendant</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1591" title="Property:P1591">defendant</a> (P1591) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1591" title="Property talk:P1591">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>person accused, at a trial</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>person, organisation-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>person, organisation</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18327521" title="Q18327521">Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q126462" title="Q126462">Thomas Paine (Q126462)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> One of a series of related proposals. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-defendant" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:10:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:19:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:32:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="prosecutor" data-mw-thread-id="h-prosecutor-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z">prosecutor</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1592" title="Property:P1592">prosecutor</a> (P1592) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1592" title="Property talk:P1592">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>person representing the prosecuting authority, at a trial</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>person-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>person, organisation</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18327521" title="Q18327521">Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q7526038" title="Q7526038">Sir Archibald Macdonald, 1st Baronet (Q7526038)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> One of a series of related proposals. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-prosecutor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:10:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:19:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="defender" data-mw-thread-id="h-defender-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z">defender</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1593" title="Property:P1593">defender</a> (P1593) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1593" title="Property talk:P1593">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Person representing the defendant, at a trial</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>person-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>person, organisation</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18327521" title="Q18327521">Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q332672" title="Q332672">Thomas Erskine, 1st Baron Erskine (Q332672)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> One of a series of related proposals. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-defender" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:10:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:19:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:39:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="judge" data-mw-thread-id="h-judge-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z">judge</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1594" title="Property:P1594">judge</a> (P1594) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1594" title="Property talk:P1594">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Judge, magistrate or equivalent, presiding at a trial</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>person-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18327521" title="Q18327521">Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q6662537" title="Q6662537">Lloyd Kenyon, 1st Baron Kenyon (Q6662537)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> One of a series of related proposals. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-judge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:10:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:19:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:41:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="charge" data-mw-thread-id="h-charge-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z">charge</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1595" title="Property:P1595">charge</a> (P1595) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1595" title="Property talk:P1595">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Offence with which someone is charged, at a trial</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>type of offence-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>crimes; civil ofences</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18327521" title="Q18327521">Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q7445335" title="Q7445335">seditious libel (Q7445335)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> One of a series of related proposals. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-charge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:10:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:19:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:42:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="penalty" data-mw-thread-id="h-penalty-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z">penalty</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1596" title="Property:P1596">penalty</a> (P1596) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1596" title="Property talk:P1596">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>penalty passed, at a trial</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>type of penalty-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>e.g. death, jail, fine, probation (or "no value" if acquitted)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3306581" title="Q3306581">trial of Saddam Hussein (Q3306581)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q8454" title="Q8454">capital punishment (Q8454)</a> (may be qualified by method e.g. <a href="/wiki/Q175111" title="Q175111">hanging (Q175111)</a>; or on other types by amount of money or time)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> One of a series of related proposals. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-penalty" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:10:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. This will need qualifiers. 'Fine' will need a qualifier with the amount. 'Probation' will need a duration. 'Imprisonment' will need qualifiers for 'sentence duration', 'time served', 'release date', 'place of imprisonment'. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:19:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:34:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:44:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-20T11:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_designation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_designation-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z">Slovene Cultural Heritage designation</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P1597&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P1597 (page does not exist)">no label</a> (P1597) (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P1597&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P1597 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>type of cultural heritage as designated by the Slovene Cultural Heritage Registry (RKD)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"razglasitev_rkd_tip" in <a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infopolje_RKD" class="extiw" title="sl:Template:Infopolje RKD">sl:Template:Infopolje RKD</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>various types of buildings, monuments, objects, landscapes, settlements, events etc.; too many to list specifically</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18398453" title="Q18398453">Register of the Intangible Cultural Heritage in Slovenia (Q18398453)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q12799435" title="Q12799435">movable cultural heritage of Slovenia (Q12799435)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q18363603" title="Q18363603">monument of national significance (Q18363603)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q18363639" title="Q18363639">monument of local significance (Q18363639)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2075156" title="Q2075156">Ljubljana Castle (Q2075156)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q18363639" title="Q18363639">monument of local significance (Q18363639)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://rkd.situla.org/">[3]</a> (both types of immobile heritage), <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.mk.gov.si/si/storitve/razvidi_evidence_in_registri/register_zive_kulturne_dediscine/seznam_registriranih_enot_zive_kulturne_dediscine/">[4]</a> (intangible heritage)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>The property will be mass-added to existing items using Magnus Manske's AutoList2 (there's a comprehensive categorization in place locally at :slwiki)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo">Yerpo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yerpo" title="User talk:Yerpo">Eh?</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> An official designation of cultural heritage (structures, events) by the Slovene government, would be useful to track existing/missing articles about cultural heritage. See also the request below. — <a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo">Yerpo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yerpo" title="User talk:Yerpo">Eh?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z-Slovene_Cultural_Heritage_designation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support If you like you could add the information about Slovenia in the table at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Cultural_heritage" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Cultural heritage">Wikidata:WikiProject Cultural heritage</a>. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-29T19:40:00.000Z-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>That table is meant for countries with existing WLM database entries, no? The thing is, we tried to get the raw dataset for monuments from the authorities a few years ago, but they wouldn't release it because some objects aren't in a "presentable" state. We got a subset of 2000 objects, but that one we aren't allowed to share with a third party. So we are limited to making individual queries in the web search engine to retrieve IDs and designations. — <a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo">Yerpo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yerpo" title="User talk:Yerpo">Eh?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Yerpo-2014-10-30T14:27:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-29T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Yerpo" title="User:Yerpo"><bdi>Yerpo</bdi></a>: I understand. We will just have to work with what we got. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T19:41:00.000Z-Yerpo-2014-10-30T14:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2014-11-01T14:39:00.000Z-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:48:00.000Z-Yerpo-2014-10-29T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="consecrator" data-mw-thread-id="h-consecrator-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z">consecrator</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1598" title="Property:P1598">consecrator</a> (P1598) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1598" title="Property talk:P1598">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>bishop who presided as consecrator or co-consecrator of this bishop</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"consecrated_by" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobox_Christian_leader" class="extiw" title="en:Infobox Christian leader">en:Infobox Christian leader</a> (and "consecrated" for the date)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a>: <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> or subclass</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a>: <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> or subclass</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><div> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q450675" title="Q450675">Pope Francis (Q450675)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q604515" title="Q604515">Antonio Quarracino (Q604515)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q7485441" title="Q7485441">Ubaldo Calabresi (Q7485441)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q983902" title="Q983902">Emilio Ogñénovich (Q983902)</a>: The current Pope is a legitimate bishop because those three earlier bishops consecrated him in 1992.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q15734379" title="Q15734379">Fabio Fabene (Q15734379)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q450675" title="Q450675">Pope Francis (Q450675)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q44842" title="Q44842">Giovanni Battista Re (Q44842)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q1870209" title="Q1870209">Lorenzo Baldisseri (Q1870209)</a>: This official was consecrated directly in 2014 by the current Pope.</li></ul></li></ul></div></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/">http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/</a> is a well-known source: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1047" title="Property:P1047">Catholic Hierarchy person ID (P1047)</a> is authority control for that site.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Closeapple" title="User:Closeapple">Closeapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Closeapple" title="User talk:Closeapple">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> In many parts of the <a href="/wiki/Q34651" title="Q34651">Christian Church (Q34651)</a>, the legitimacy of each <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> is tied to <a href="/wiki/Q49482" title="Q49482">apostolic succession (Q49482)</a>: the chain by which each <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> received his new <a href="/wiki/Q662862" title="Q662862">holy orders (Q662862)</a> from an existing <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a>, in a line putatively back to an <a href="/wiki/Q43412" title="Q43412">apostle (Q43412)</a>. Not all Christian denominations practice this, but it's very important for <a href="/wiki/Q9592" title="Q9592">Catholic Church (Q9592)</a> and some others. This property's parameter is called the <a href="/wiki/Q4231232" title="Q4231232">consecrator and co-consecrator (Q4231232)</a> of the item: one or more earlier <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> by which this item received legitimacy as a new <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a>. Each item that is a <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> (or subclass) should have multiple of this property, each with an earlier <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> (or subclass) as the parameter. This is because, even though only one <a href="/wiki/Q4231232" title="Q4231232">consecrator and co-consecrator (Q4231232)</a> is necessary, the <a href="/wiki/Q49482" title="Q49482">apostolic succession (Q49482)</a> is so important that usually there are 2 or 3 "principal" people performing the act: the main <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> performing the ceremony is the "principal consecrator"; another 1 or 2 assist with the ceremony and are called "principal co-consecrators"; the presence of these at the ceremony is well-documented, so that even if the principal consecrator is somehow invalid, the principal co-consecrators cause the ceremony to be valid. Apparently, there are often many other of <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> at the ceremony, who are simply called "co-consecrators" and are less-documented. This property is not the same as <a href="/wiki/Property:P748" title="Property:P748">appointed by (P748)</a>. A person must first achieve the personal status of <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a>: the people responsible for that act are named by this parameter; and those people must already have the status of <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a>. The new <a href="/wiki/Q29182" title="Q29182">bishop (Q29182)</a> then is assigned to one or more of <a href="/wiki/Q2902010" class="mw-redirect" title="Q2902010">episcopal see (Q2902010)</a>; in the <a href="/wiki/Q15924454" class="mw-redirect" title="Q15924454">Catholic Church (Q15924454)</a>, for example, the <a href="/wiki/Property:P748" title="Property:P748">appointed by (P748)</a> for each assignment is almost always a <a href="/wiki/Q19546" title="Q19546">pope (Q19546)</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Closeapple" title="User:Closeapple">Closeapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Closeapple" title="User talk:Closeapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Closeapple-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z-consecrator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-10-27T17:28:00.000Z-Closeapple-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gymel" title="User:Gymel">Gymel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gymel" title="User talk:Gymel">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Gymel-2014-10-27T23:52:00.000Z-Closeapple-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T22:49:00.000Z-Closeapple-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2014-11-01T15:06:00.000Z-Closeapple-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T17:51:00.000Z-Closeapple-2014-10-25T00:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="deepest_point" data-mw-thread-id="h-deepest_point-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z">deepest point</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1589" title="Property:P1589">lowest point</a> (P1589) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1589" title="Property talk:P1589">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>point with lowest elevation in the country, region, city or area</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"lowest" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Geobox/legend#Fields" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Geobox/legend">en:Template:Geobox/legend#Fields</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>place</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>placenames</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2" title="Q2">Earth (Q2)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q459173" title="Q459173">Challenger Deep (Q459173)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Info199" title="User:Info199">Info199</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Info199" title="User talk:Info199">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="/wiki/User:Info199" title="User:Info199">Info199</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Info199" title="User talk:Info199">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z-deepest_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 13 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T09:19:00.000Z-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T14:56:00.000Z-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose In my opinion this is a query and not a property. We have a lot of notable geographic items that can have the property "elevation". Finding the lowest or highest is a simple query. The lowest and highest point of any country will always be notable and we can create items for them if they are missing. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-26T17:24:00.000Z-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> in some cases the lowest point is only notable for being the lowest point so I think a separate property is useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T21:15:00.000Z-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>: I think stating this properties is also fine. But the problem with that approach is, that the second highest/lowest point is also notable and then the third highest/lowest. In that case it would be better to just have "notable point" with a qualifier to describe the notability? In any case this property has enough support so I will create it. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T21:41:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T22:20:00.000Z-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Info199" title="User:Info199"><bdi>Info199</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><bdi>AmaryllisGardener</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>: -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T22:21:00.000Z-Info199-2014-10-13T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Cambridge_Alumni_Database_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cambridge_Alumni_Database_ID-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z">Cambridge Alumni Database ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1599" title="Property:P1599">Cambridge Alumni Database ID</a> (P1599) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1599" title="Property talk:P1599">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ID in the Cambridge Alumni Database/Alumni Cantabrigienses (ACAD)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>eight-character alphanumeric string</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q936766" title="Q936766">Thomas Parker, 1st Earl of Macclesfield (Q936766)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?sur=&suro=c&fir=&firo=c&cit=&cito=c&c=all&tex=%22PRKR685T%22&sye=&eye=&col=all&maxcount=50">PRKR685T</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>external database/Wikipedia articles</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Gray" title="User:Andrew Gray">Andrew Gray</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Gray" title="User talk:Andrew Gray">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Alumni_Cantabrigienses" class="extiw" title="w:en:Alumni Cantabrigienses">Alumni Cantabrigienses</a> is a ten-volume directory listing all known students of the University of Cambridge up to 1900, with around 130,000 entries. The University Library at Cambridge has supported an online version of this ("ACAD", at venn.lib.cam.ac.uk) which has assigned an identifier to every entry and allows a static URL to be generated (see, eg, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?sur=&suro=c&fir=&firo=c&cit=&cito=c&c=all&tex=%22PRKR685T%22&sye=&eye=&col=all&maxcount=50">PRKR685T</a>). There are currently around 5000 links to ACAD on enwiki. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Gray" title="User:Andrew Gray">Andrew Gray</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Gray" title="User talk:Andrew Gray">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Andrew_Gray-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z-Cambridge_Alumni_Database_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>This would be useful to have. It can be noted that many Oxford graduates are also included, where their degrees were recognised by Cambridge, something quite common in past centuries. So for British history the site is a substantial resource including notable people. <a href="/wiki/User:Charles_Matthews" title="User:Charles Matthews">Charles Matthews</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Charles_Matthews" title="User talk:Charles Matthews">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Charles_Matthews-2014-09-18T11:03:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-19T00:05:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Mushroom" title="User:Mushroom">Mushroom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushroom" title="User talk:Mushroom">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mushroom-2014-10-26T11:53:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Fabian_Tompsett_(WMUK)" title="User:Fabian Tompsett (WMUK)">Fabian Tompsett (WMUK)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabian_Tompsett_(WMUK)" title="User talk:Fabian Tompsett (WMUK)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Fabian_Tompsett_(WMUK)-2014-11-05T19:42:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T16:45:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2014-09-15T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="code_Inventari_del_Patrimoni_Arquitectònic_de_Catalunya" data-mw-thread-id="h-code_Inventari_del_Patrimoni_Arquitectònic_de_Catalunya-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z">code Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1600" title="Property:P1600">Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya code</a> (P1600) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1600" title="Property talk:P1600">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Architectural property identifier for <a href="/wiki/Q1393661" title="Q1393661">Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya (Q1393661)</a> in Catalonia</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1019352" title="Q1019352">Cultural Asset of National Interest</a> (Q1019352)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>field "identificador" in <a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Infotaula_patrimoni_cultural" class="extiw" title="ca:Plantilla:Infotaula patrimoni cultural">ca:Plantilla:Infotaula patrimoni cultural</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>places: cultural properties in Catalonia</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>monuments</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18006527" title="Q18006527">Safareigs d'Abrera (Q18006527)</a> -> 18097 (register number)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>up to 5 numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Wiki_Loves_Monuments" class="extiw" title="ca:Portal:Wiki Loves Monuments">ca:Portal:Wiki Loves Monuments</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:KRLS_Bot" title="User:KRLS Bot">User:KRLS Bot</a> could import IDs from Catalan Wikipedia</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:KRLS" title="User:KRLS">KRLS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KRLS" title="User talk:KRLS">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> It would be used to store WLM data that at the moment is not on Wikidata. <a href="/wiki/User:KRLS" title="User:KRLS">KRLS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KRLS" title="User talk:KRLS">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-KRLS-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z-code_Inventari_del_Patrimoni_Arquitectònic_de_Catalunya" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:KRLS" title="User:KRLS"><bdi>KRLS</bdi></a>: We can probably save the identifier without the "IPAC-" prefix? -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T16:41:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: Changed. "IPAC" prefix is not necessary.--<a href="/wiki/User:KRLS" title="User:KRLS">KRLS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KRLS" title="User talk:KRLS">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-KRLS-2014-11-03T19:05:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Kippelboy" title="User:Kippelboy">Kippelboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kippelboy" title="User talk:Kippelboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Kippelboy-2014-11-03T11:48:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Davidpar" title="User:Davidpar">Davidpar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidpar" title="User talk:Davidpar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Davidpar-2014-11-03T21:49:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T16:49:00.000Z-KRLS-2014-10-31T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Esperantist_number" data-mw-thread-id="h-Esperantist_number-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z">Esperantist number</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1601" title="Property:P1601">Esperantist ID</a> (P1601) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1601" title="Property talk:P1601">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ID number of the person in <a href="/wiki/Q12344666" title="Q12344666">the address book</a> of early <a href="/wiki/Q860918" title="Q860918">Esperantists</a>, published by <a href="/wiki/Q11758" title="Q11758">L. L. Zamenhof</a> as a series between 1889 a 1909 and containing data about some 22,000 pioneer speakers and promoters of <a href="/wiki/Q143" title="Q143">Esperanto</a> (the person would subscribe themselves e.g. "John Doe, Esperantist number 123")</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q12344666" title="Q12344666">Adresaro de la personoj kiuj ellernis la lingvon "Esperanto"</a> (Q12344666)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"adresaro" in <a href="https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Cablono:Informkesto_esperantisto" class="extiw" title="eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto esperantisto">eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto esperantisto</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>a number of 1 to 5 digits, optionally followed by a lower case letter (starting from "b", to disambiguate accidental multiple use of the same number)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18413" title="Q18413">Louis de Beaufront (Q18413)</a> => "1028", <a href="/wiki/Q12608" title="Q12608">Hector Hodler (Q12608)</a> => "7116"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>can be checked to match the regular expression [1-9][0-9]{0,4}[b-z]?</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>original address books from 1889–1909, reprinted in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/843138530">Ludovikologia dokumentaro. 9 (ludovikaj adresaroj 1 (1889-1902))</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/843138536">Ludovikologia dokumentaro. 10 (ludovikaj adresaroj 2 (1903-1909)).</a>, some of them scanned at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://data.onb.ac.at/rec/AC04207512">Austrian National Library</a>, processed as text and gradually being imported into <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/eo:Adresaro_de_la_personoj_kiuj_ellernis_la_lingvon_%22Esperanto%22" class="extiw" title="s:eo:Adresaro de la personoj kiuj ellernis la lingvon "Esperanto"">s:eo:Adresaro de la personoj kiuj ellernis la lingvon "Esperanto"</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>I am running a research project exploring the history of the <a href="/wiki/Q384764" title="Q384764">Esperanto movement</a> (described e.g. in the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.interlinguistik-gil.de/wb/media/beihefte/17/Blahus_189-193.pdf">Society for Interlinguistics proceedings</a>) which has digitized all the data using OCR, proofreading, geotagging and various heuristics. The resulting database is being put <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/eo:Adresaro_de_la_personoj_kiuj_ellernis_la_lingvon_%22Esperanto%22" class="extiw" title="s:eo:Adresaro de la personoj kiuj ellernis la lingvon "Esperanto"">on Esperanto Wikisource</a> and volunteers will be invited to help finding records concerning notable people and matching them with the correspondent Wikidata items.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Blahma" title="User:Blahma">Blahma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blahma" title="User talk:Blahma">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> This proposal follows a discussion on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Seeking_feedback_for_planned_edits_related_to_my_project" title="Wikidata:Project chat">Project chat</a> in which I described my work on making this resource available on Wikisource as part of a scientific project. <a href="/wiki/User:Jura1" title="User:Jura1">One participant</a> of the discussion encouraged me to propose a new property. <a href="/wiki/Q12344666" title="Q12344666">The address book</a>, issued over a period of 21 years, contains data about some 22,000 early <a href="/wiki/Q860918" title="Q860918">Esperantists</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0a&datum=1892&page=28&size=45">see sample page</a>). First analyses suggest that approximately 8 % of them are notable (at least on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/eo:" class="extiw" title="w:eo:">Esperanto Wikipedia</a> and the Wikipedia in the person's mother tongue). This should eventually yield some 1750 uses of this property on Wikidata and lead to easier infobox data sharing across languages. A script could link the individual records in the digitized version of the address book on Wikisource to the corresponding Wikidata items. <a href="/wiki/User:Blahma" title="User:Blahma">Blahma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blahma" title="User talk:Blahma">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z-Esperantist_number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support assuming the number is stable across the editions. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-11-03T08:03:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>The number is stable indeed. Every person got listed only once and each part of the series added new people but did not modify the previous lists. All subsequent reprints (that I work with) are merely photocopies of the original lists. Publications on the history of Esperanto tend to mention the person's number as a proof of his/her activity at certain time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Blahma" title="User:Blahma">Blahma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blahma" title="User talk:Blahma">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Blahma-2014-11-03T14:55:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-03T20:21:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Tout à fait utile pour les rubriques sur des espérantistes et cela constituera un levier pour l'utilisation du wikidata. --<a href="/wiki/User:Pinof" title="User:Pinof">Pinof</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pinof" title="User talk:Pinof">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pinof-2014-11-04T07:56:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Sound reasonably and useful, Blahma in general know what he is doing. --<a href="/wiki/User:KuboF" class="mw-redirect" title="User:KuboF">KuboF</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuboF" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:KuboF">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-KuboF-2014-11-04T20:36:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Eminently sensible. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-04T23:28:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 4 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T16:51:00.000Z-Blahma-2014-11-03T01:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="BBC_Your_Paintings_venue_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-BBC_Your_Paintings_venue_identifier-2014-10-17T18:53:00.000Z">BBC Your Paintings venue identifier</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1602" title="Property:P1602">Art UK venue ID</a> (P1602) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1602" title="Property talk:P1602">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>An authority control identifier for art collections, per <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Your_paintings#Your_Paintings" class="extiw" title="en:BBC Your paintings">en:BBC Your paintings#Your Paintings</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:YourPaintings_GLAM" class="extiw" title="en:Template:YourPaintings GLAM">en:Template:YourPaintings GLAM</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q18324985" title="Q18324985">Template:Art UK venue (Q18324985)</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Organisations or buildings</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>generic string, usually lowercase, no spaces</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q12403" title="Q12403">Royal Birmingham Society of Artists (Q12403)</a> => royal-birmingham-society-of-artists-4793 (resolves to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/galleries/locations/royal-birmingham-society-of-artists-4793">http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/galleries/locations/royal-birmingham-society-of-artists-4793</a> )</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/galleries">http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/galleries</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Possible</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> We already have <a href="/wiki/Property:P1367" title="Property:P1367">Art UK artist ID (P1367)</a> for artists. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-17T18:53:00.000Z-BBC_Your_Paintings_venue_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-18T09:21:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-17T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - <a href="/wiki/User:PKM" title="User:PKM">PKM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PKM" title="User talk:PKM">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-PKM-2014-10-27T22:02:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-17T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-11-05T22:09:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-17T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T18:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-17T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="number_of_cases" data-mw-thread-id="h-number_of_cases-2014-10-31T03:24:00.000Z">number of cases</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1603" title="Property:P1603">number of cases</a> (P1603) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1603" title="Property talk:P1603">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the cumulative number of confirmed, probable and suspected occurrences</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>None. Values often shoehorned into 'casualties1' and 'casualties2' in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_event" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox event">Template:Infobox_event</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3241045" title="Q3241045">disease outbreak (Q3241045)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Non-negative integers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q15989108" title="Q15989108">Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)</a> number of cases 13,703 <a href="/wiki/Property:P585" title="Property:P585">point in time (P585)</a> October 25, 2014</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Health institutes, e.g. World Health Organization, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Number of cases is a basic epidemiological measurement of disease occurrence. Together with <a href="/wiki/Property:P1120" title="Property:P1120">number of deaths (P1120)</a>, it helps quantify the burden of outbreaks. As seen in e.g. the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/137376/1/roadmapsitrep_29Oct2014_eng.pdf?ua=1">Ebola Response Roadmap Situation Report</a>, the World Health Organization defines number of cases as the sum of the number of confirmed, suspected and probable cases. Data on disease outbreaks is often at different level of geography. For example in the 2014 Ebola outbreak, there is notable coverage in both the region of West Africa and also at the national level, e.g. Liberia. This also occurred in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic" class="extiw" title="en:2009 flu pandemic">2009 flu pandemic</a>. Because <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Development_plan#Simple_queries" title="Wikidata:Development plan">qualifiers will not be queryable</a> in the foreseeable future, and to encourage creation of new items where applicable, it would be best to have 'number of cases' appear as a ground-triple in a specific item, and not as a qualifier in the general item. For example: As ground-triple (recommended): <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q15989108" title="Q15989108">Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>number of cases 13,703 <a href="/wiki/Property:P585" title="Property:P585">point in time (P585)</a> October 25, 2014</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Property:P1120" title="Property:P1120">number of deaths (P1120)</a> 4,922</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) (P527)</a> <a href="/wiki/Q18208679" title="Q18208679">2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia (Q18208679)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q18208679" title="Q18208679">2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia (Q18208679)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>number of cases 6,253</dd> <dd>number of deaths 2,704</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of (P361)</a> <a href="/wiki/Q15989108" title="Q15989108">Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> As qualifier (not recommended): <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q15989108" title="Q15989108">Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>number of cases 13,703 <a href="/wiki/Property:P585" title="Property:P585">point in time (P585)</a> October 25, 2014</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Property:P1120" title="Property:P1120">number of deaths (P1120)</a> 4,922</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) (P527)</a> <a href="/wiki/Q18208679" title="Q18208679">2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia (Q18208679)</a> <dl><dd>number of cases 6,253</dd> <dd>number of deaths 2,704</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> Feedback welcome! 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-10-31T04:24:00.000Z-number_of_cases" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jmh649" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jmh649">Doc James</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry">Bluerasberry</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gambo7" title="User:Gambo7">Gambo7</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrux" title="User:Andrux">Andrux</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pavel_Du%C5%A1ek" title="User:Pavel Dušek">Pavel Dušek</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" 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Medicine</a> -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T20:32:00.000Z-number_of_cases" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Repinging: I don't think the first ping went through the system. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T20:34:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T20:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>)</dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">Emitraka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emitraka-2014-11-03T14:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T20:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T18:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-31T20:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="biosafety_level" data-mw-thread-id="h-biosafety_level-2014-10-31T13:00:00.000Z">biosafety level</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1604" title="Property:P1604">biosafety level</a> (P1604) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1604" title="Property talk:P1604">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>level of the biocontainment precautions required to isolate dangerous biological agents</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>None yet.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7239" title="Q7239">organism (Q7239)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>any instance of <a href="/wiki/Q898943" title="Q898943">biosafety level (Q898943)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q595158" title="Q595158">methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (Q595158)</a> biosafety level <a href="/wiki/Q18396535" title="Q18396535">biosafety level 2 (Q18396535)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Union directive</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> Of interest for pathogenic organisms. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-10-31T13:00:00.000Z-biosafety_level" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mvolz" title="User talk:Mvolz">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mvolz-2014-10-31T23:16:00.000Z-Emw-2014-10-31T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T23:25:00.000Z-Emw-2014-10-31T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T18:14:00.000Z-Emw-2014-10-31T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="natural_reservoir" data-mw-thread-id="h-natural_reservoir-2014-10-31T23:16:00.000Z">natural reservoir</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1605" title="Property:P1605">has natural reservoir</a> (P1605) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1605" title="Property talk:P1605">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Host species for the pathogen in which it is endemic.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>None yet.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7239" title="Q7239">organism (Q7239)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7239" title="Q7239">organism (Q7239)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q5331908" title="Q5331908">Ebolavirus (Q5331908)</a> natural reservoir <a href="/wiki/Q185230" title="Q185230">Pteropodidae (Q185230)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mvolz" title="User talk:Mvolz">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mvolz-2014-10-31T23:16:00.000Z-natural_reservoir" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> For pathogenic organisms. I.e. Ebola -> fruit bat, West nile virus -> mosquitoes, mers-cov -> camels. <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mvolz" title="User talk:Mvolz">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mvolz-2014-10-31T23:16:00.000Z-natural_reservoir-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a>, good idea. What do you think of changing the proposed label to "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_reservoir" class="extiw" title="en:Natural reservoir">natural reservoir</a>"? That seems to be the conventional label used in virology for this concept. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-01T12:56:00.000Z-Mvolz-2014-10-31T23:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>A few more things!: <ul><li>Could we clarify in the description that pathogens can multiple natural reservoirs, e.g. "bubonic plague has natural reservoir marmots, black rats, prairie dogs, chipmunks and squirrels" per <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_reservoir#Examples" class="extiw" title="en:Natural reservoir">Natural_reservoir#Examples</a>?</li></ul> <dl><dd>Done! <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mvolz" title="User talk:Mvolz">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mvolz-2014-11-01T17:53:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-01T12:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>How about having an inverse property 'natural reservoir of' for this and tacking on 'has' to the front of the this property? This would be useful for users browsing around in a linked data UI who stumble upon, e.g. fruit bat, to learn it's a natural reservoir for Ebola. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T23:25:00.000Z-Mvolz-2014-10-31T23:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> Why not use <a href="/wiki/Q221673" title="Q221673">host organism (Q221673)</a>? Anopheles gambiae is a host for Plasmodium falciparum. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">Emitraka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emitraka-2014-11-03T14:28:00.000Z-natural_reservoir" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T18:19:00.000Z-Emitraka-2014-11-03T14:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="natural_reservoir_of" data-mw-thread-id="h-natural_reservoir_of-2014-11-01T13:24:00.000Z">natural reservoir of</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1606" title="Property:P1606">natural reservoir of</a> (P1606) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1606" title="Property talk:P1606">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>pathogen of which this species is a long-term host</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>None yet.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7239" title="Q7239">organism (Q7239)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7239" title="Q7239">organism (Q7239)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q185230" title="Q185230">Pteropodidae (Q185230)</a> natural reservoir of <a href="/wiki/Q5331908" title="Q5331908">Ebolavirus (Q5331908)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> In addition to seeing that, for example, fruit bats are a natural reservoir for Ebola on the page for Ebola, it'd be convenient to also see that information on the page for fruit bats. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-01T13:24:00.000Z-natural_reservoir_of" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T23:25:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-01T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T18:22:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-01T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="function_domain_Q192439_/_input_set_Template:Q1756942_of_a_relation_or_a_partial_function_/_codomain_/_output_set" data-mw-thread-id="h-function_domain_Q192439_/_input_set_Template:Q1756942_of_a_relation_or_a_partial-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z">function domain Q192439 / input set <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Q1756942&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Q1756942 (page does not exist)">Template:Q1756942</a> of a relation or a partial function / codomain / output set</h3></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P1571" title="Property:P1571">Property:P1571</a> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1568" title="Property:P1568">definition domain</a> (P1568) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1568" title="Property talk:P1568">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>relations to link definition domains <a href="/wiki/Q192439" title="Q192439">domain of a function (Q192439)</a>  <a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q192439&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a> <a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q192439&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a> of functions or partial function and relations ; (domain/codomain are for the subsets of the input/set where a (partial) function always a value , input / output sets are for any relation.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>domain and codomain : <a href="/wiki/Q370502" title="Q370502">mapping (Q370502)</a> / <a href="/wiki/Q11348" title="Q11348">function (Q11348)</a> / <a href="/wiki/Q1948412" title="Q1948412">morphism (Q1948412)</a> (?) / <a href="/wiki/Q1948412" title="Q1948412">morphism (Q1948412)</a> ; input set / output set : <a href="/wiki/Q130901" title="Q130901">binary relation (Q130901)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q36161" title="Q36161">set (Q36161)</a> / <a href="/wiki/Q217594" title="Q217594">class (Q217594)</a> (?) / <a href="/wiki/Q1948412" title="Q1948412">morphism (Q1948412)</a> (?) in <a href="/wiki/Q217413" title="Q217413">category theory (Q217413)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;">⟨ <a href="/wiki/Q3075175" title="Q3075175">square function (Q3075175)</a> ⟩ domain <a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:domain" title="Special:Search/Property:domain">Search</a> ⟨ <a href="/wiki/Q12916" title="Q12916">real number (Q12916)</a> ⟩</div> ; <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;">⟨ <a href="/wiki/Q3075175" title="Q3075175">square function (Q3075175)</a> ⟩ range <a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:range" title="Special:Search/Property:range">Search</a> ⟨ <a href="/wiki/Q12916" title="Q12916">real number (Q12916)</a> > 0 ⟩</div> (don't have any partial function item yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>) </td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> There is a lot of mathematical functions and so on articles. <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-TomT0m-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z-function_domain_Q192439_/_input_set_Template:Q1756942_of_a_relation_or_a_partial" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 22 August 2014 (UTC)</a> }} <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Maybe it would be better to call it domain and codomain of a mapping, it would also apply to functors. Some people use the word "function" only for number-valued functions and "mapping" in other cases, for example there are <a href="/wiki/Q987226" title="Q987226">rational mapping (Q987226)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Q41237" title="Q41237">rational function (Q41237)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danneks" title="User:Danneks">Danneks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danneks" title="User talk:Danneks">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Danneks-2014-08-23T05:05:00.000Z-TomT0m-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Yes, terminology issues can be complex :/ (I lost myself in Wikipedia writing this proposal ^^) (not to mention idiosyncrasys). I tend to agree we should have a scope as big as possible for properties and to split them only for good reasons. Still can't decide if it is useful to have two distinct pairs of properties. I guess we must be careful not to introduce ambiguities. <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-TomT0m-2014-08-23T11:11:00.000Z-Danneks-2014-08-23T05:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 23 August 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Technically speaking, we have several distinct concepts here. I'm not sure that we need "domain of a functor" property right now, since we don't have many such items, and terminology of domains is not much used. For most of morphisms, it will be enough to specify category to which this morphism belongs (and "part of" applies perfectly here). So we only need domain and codomain of a function; we can write in description "(co)domain of a mapping between sets" to avoid ambiguity. <a href="/wiki/User:Danneks" title="User:Danneks">Danneks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danneks" title="User talk:Danneks">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Danneks-2014-08-23T14:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2014-08-23T11:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. I would use only "domain" and "codomain" for clarity and simplicity. <a href="/wiki/User:Cuvwb" title="User:Cuvwb">Cuvwb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cuvwb" title="User talk:Cuvwb">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Cuvwb-2014-10-12T19:07:00.000Z-TomT0m-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Danneks" title="User:Danneks"><bdi>Danneks</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Cuvwb" title="User:Cuvwb"><bdi>Cuvwb</bdi></a>: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec">Jakob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jakec" title="User talk:Jakec">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jakec-2014-10-18T18:42:00.000Z-TomT0m-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec"><bdi>Jakec</bdi></a>: Thank you, but what about domains? <a href="/wiki/User:Danneks" title="User:Danneks">Danneks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danneks" title="User talk:Danneks">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Danneks-2014-10-18T20:31:00.000Z-Jakec-2014-10-18T18:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec"><bdi>Jakec</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Danneks" title="User:Danneks"><bdi>Danneks</bdi></a>:. I think this was (implicitly) proposing 2 propoerties. I have changed the label of <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P1568" class="extiw" title="fr:P1568">fr:P1568</a> to domain and created <a href="/wiki/Property:P1571" title="Property:P1571">codomain (P1571)</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-10-19T09:03:00.000Z-TomT0m-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>:, shouldn't the French label be "<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ensemble_de_d%C3%A9finition" class="extiw" title="fr:ensemble de définition">fr:ensemble de définition</a>" rather than "<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ensemble_de_d%C3%A9part" class="extiw" title="fr:ensemble de départ">fr:ensemble de départ</a>" ?--<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-10-19T09:03:00.000Z-TomT0m-2014-08-22T15:47:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Dialnet_author_/_Dialnet_book_/_Dialnet_journal_/_Dialnet_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dialnet_author_/_Dialnet_book_/_Dialnet_journal_/_Dialnet_article-2014-09-07T01:33:00.000Z">Dialnet author / Dialnet book / Dialnet journal / Dialnet article</h3></div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P1607" title="Property:P1607">Property:P1607</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P1608" title="Property:P1608">Property:P1608</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P1609" title="Property:P1609">Property:P1609</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P1610" title="Property:P1610">Property:P1610</a> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3025975" title="Q3025975">Dialnet (Q3025975)</a> es un portal de difusión de la producción científica hispana que inició su funcionamiento en el año 2001 especializado en ciencias humanas y sociales. (es) – (Please translate this into English.)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Dialnet" class="extiw" title="es:Plantilla:Dialnet">es:Plantilla:Dialnet</a> (only authors)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q215627" title="Q215627">person (Q215627)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q386724" title="Q386724">work (Q386724)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q5949894" title="Q5949894">J. G. Cobo Borda (Q5949894)</a> = <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/autor?codigo=3073901">autor 3073901</a> => 3073901</li> <li>Historia de Oviedo (Gijón 1978) = <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/libro?codigo=50710">libro 50710</a> => 50710</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q17519325" title="Q17519325">Arquitectura (Q17519325)</a> = <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/revista?codigo=8911">revista 8911</a> => 8911</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q17519401" title="Q17519401">Necrología de D. José López Sallaberry (Q17519401)</a> = <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=3635829">articulo 3635829</a> => 3635829</li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dialnet.unirioja.es">dialnet.unirioja.es</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Akron_stevens" title="User:Akron stevens">Akron stevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akron_stevens" title="User talk:Akron stevens">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> @<a href="/wiki/User:Totemkin" title="User:Totemkin"><bdi>Totemkin</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:HombreDHojalata" title="User:HombreDHojalata"><bdi>HombreDHojalata</bdi></a>: Use by Totemkin and other Spanish editors. --<a href="/wiki/User:Akron_stevens" title="User:Akron stevens">Akron stevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akron_stevens" title="User talk:Akron stevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Akron_stevens-2014-09-07T01:33:00.000Z-Dialnet_author_/_Dialnet_book_/_Dialnet_journal_/_Dialnet_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 7 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment ¡Discúlpame por no commentar en español! Dialnet and BNE Authorities <a href="/wiki/Property:P950" title="Property:P950">National Library of Spain ID (P950)</a> seem to have mutual knowledge about their respective identiifers: Dialnet links to VIAF using the BNE identifier, and the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://catalogo.bne.es/uhtbin/authoritybrowse.cgi?action=display&authority_id=XX1142396">BNE authority view</a> under "Obras" proves a link to Dialnet using the Dialnet codigo. It might be more useful to implement separate properties for authors (under "Authority control", cf. <a href="/wiki/Template:Authority_control_properties" title="Template:Authority control properties">Template:Authority control properties</a>), journals (comparable to <a href="/wiki/Property:P236" title="Property:P236">ISSN (P236)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P1042" title="Property:P1042">ZDB ID (P1042)</a> - those don't seem to be kept together at some place yet) and articles. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gymel" title="User:Gymel">Gymel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gymel" title="User talk:Gymel">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Gymel-2014-09-07T12:48:00.000Z-Akron_stevens-2014-09-07T01:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Hi! Great idea! I agree with Gymel the best approach would be separated properties for "autor", "artículo" y "revista"... for example: "Identificador de autor en Dialnet" (Dialnet author identifier), "Identificador de artículo en Dialnet" (Dialnet article identifier), "Identificador de revista en Dialnet" (Dialnet magazine identifier). If not... we would have a single property named "Dialnet" in which we would have to add something like articulo?codigo=2234765 with articles, autor?codigo=307390100 with articles, etc. Weird. I don't know if (with a future development of Wikidata) we would be able to do this with a single property, through statements kinda "código Dialnet = 307390100" and qualifiers in the mold of "type=article", "type=magazine",... but I think it's science fiction right now. Cheers! —<a href="/wiki/User:Totemkin" title="User:Totemkin">Totemkin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Totemkin" title="User talk:Totemkin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Totemkin-2014-09-07T14:02:00.000Z-Gymel-2014-09-07T12:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Totemkin" title="User:Totemkin"><bdi>Totemkin</bdi></a>:, how will this new property work with the template <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/es:Plantilla:Dialnet" class="extiw" title="w:es:Plantilla:Dialnet">w:es:Plantilla:Dialnet</a>? It is not quite elaborated (and only deals with persons). Best regards [07:34, 9. Sep. 2014‎ <a href="/wiki/User:Discasto" title="User:Discasto">Discasto</a>] <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Uhmmm. @<a href="/wiki/User:Discasto" title="User:Discasto"><bdi>Discasto</bdi></a>: Pues viéndolo así, desde la distancia, no veo mucha interacción posible a estas alturas del proyecto. Estas propiedades estarán, por ahora, enfocadas exclusivamente a Wikidata. Una vez se produzca la preconizada interacción Wikidata-Wikipedia (si algún día lo hace.. hehe) pues Wikipedia podrá usar estos datos. En concreto los de "Dialnet autor" podrían mostrarse automáticamente por ejemplo en una barra de "Authority control" junto con los VIAF's, ISNI's, etcéteras en los artículos respectivos de cada autor, con lo que todo el código de estas plantillas comenzaría a ser redundante. Ahora bien, esto hoy día está muy lejos (además las Wikipedia no confían lo suficiente en Wikidata para mostrar nuestra información de aquí). Ni siquiera hemos conseguido plantearnos centralizar los enlaces a las categorías de Commons solamente a través de Wikidata (básicamente hoy día se siguen mostrando a través del {{commonscat}}), así que todavía queda tiempo. Poniéndonos en plan constructivo, la única interacción posible en estos momentos se me ocurre que sería simplemente el importar datos desde esta plantilla en Wikipedia a Wikidata. Para ello haría falta alguien puesto en bots. (también se podría modificar la plantilla para que poniendo simplemente algo como {{Dialnet}} esta "chupara" el código desde Wikidata) Un saludo. (sorry for the Spanish)<a href="/wiki/User:Totemkin" title="User:Totemkin">Totemkin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Totemkin" title="User talk:Totemkin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Totemkin-2014-09-10T21:03:00.000Z-Totemkin-2014-09-07T14:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gymel" title="User:Gymel"><bdi>Gymel</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Totemkin" title="User:Totemkin"><bdi>Totemkin</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Discasto" title="User:Discasto"><bdi>Discasto</bdi></a>: You're right. I've now separated the different types of identifiers. So we need three properties: Dialnet authors, Dialnet journals and Dialnet works (mostly articles but also books). --<a href="/wiki/User:Akron_stevens" title="User:Akron stevens">Akron stevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akron_stevens" title="User talk:Akron stevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Akron_stevens-2014-09-10T20:42:00.000Z-Totemkin-2014-09-10T21:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>That's correct, there's also books! <a href="/wiki/User:Totemkin" title="User:Totemkin">Totemkin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Totemkin" title="User talk:Totemkin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Totemkin-2014-09-10T21:03:00.000Z-Akron_stevens-2014-09-10T20:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>... and they have their own identifiers: So we need four properties. --<a href="/wiki/User:Akron_stevens" title="User:Akron stevens">Akron stevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akron_stevens" title="User talk:Akron stevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Akron_stevens-2014-09-11T01:24:00.000Z-Totemkin-2014-09-10T21:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Actually above I had not noticed that one needs different URLs to access the notices of the individual kinds. So, definitely, distinct wikidata properties should be implemented. I'm quite in favor of the proposal for autores (classical "authority control" and there is existing data from the template on es:WP - oops: less than 50 inclusions) and revistas (Dialnet often lists individual volumes and provides their tables of contents for its 9000+ journals - that's impressive), however I'm not so sure about the individual listings for libros and articulos: They might be handy as "reference" as proposed and the articulos are cross-linked to the revistas, but especially for libros I don't see any advantage in comparison to taking more rich and detailed e.g. BNE notices as "reference" (nobody has proposed that yet, maybe only because it does not seem technically possible). Thus perhaps we should discuss four different proposals with their pro's and con's? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gymel" title="User:Gymel">Gymel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gymel" title="User talk:Gymel">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Gymel-2014-09-11T10:23:00.000Z-Akron_stevens-2014-09-10T20:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Likely - like Gymel says - the book id is in this case less important, but imho we should add all four properties together and leave the decision which are the major Dialnet properties to the users. We don't know how Dialnet will develop (maybe books will be more important later). Beside we did the same in other cases. For example: We have added all 6 MusicBrainz IDs and it works well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Kolja21-2014-09-11T23:54:00.000Z-Gymel-2014-09-11T10:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support 4 properties though this should probably be on the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control">Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control</a> page. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T22:13:00.000Z-Akron_stevens-2014-09-07T01:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-07T18:30:00.000Z-Akron_stevens-2014-09-07T01:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="IRC" data-mw-thread-id="h-IRC-2014-10-30T16:51:00.000Z">IRC</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1613" title="Property:P1613">IRC channel URL</a> (P1613) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1613" title="Property talk:P1613">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q73" title="Q73">IRC network</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q73" title="Q73">Q73</a>) it is using.</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7397" title="Q7397">software</a> (Q7397)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>URL (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:Types/URL)-invalid">http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:Types/URL)-invalid</a> datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>channel (ie. #libreoffice-dev for IRC development, #libreoffice for IRC general, and another one for IRC help)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Q templates</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>text</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q10135" title="Q10135">LibreOffice (Q10135)</a> → <a href="/wiki/Q300885" title="Q300885">freenode (Q300885)</a> (→ <code>#libreoffice-dev</code>)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>URL must use <code>irc:</code> scheme</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>external reference (the Free Software Directory for example)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>In later improvements, the string of an item will have to match the relevant channel name, but without being too exclusive.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Genium" title="User:Genium">genium</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Genium" title="User talk:Genium"><big><big>⟨✉⟩</big></big></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> (IRC is more relevant than <a href="/wiki/Property:P553" title="Property:P553">Property:P553</a> for free software. see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://directory.fsf.org/">http://directory.fsf.org/</a> to see what I mean. I would love to add such entries as I do there.) <a href="/wiki/User:Genium" title="User:Genium">genium</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Genium" title="User talk:Genium"><big><big>⟨✉⟩</big></big></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Genium-2014-10-30T16:51:00.000Z-IRC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-30T18:02:00.000Z-Genium-2014-10-30T16:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Danrok-2014-10-31T00:29:00.000Z-Genium-2014-10-30T16:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd></dl> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/15px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/> <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-30T18:02:00.000Z-IRC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>We still have to wait for the datatype. See bug report. <div style="float:right; clear:right; border:1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-radius:2px; background-color:var(--background-color-neutral, #eaecf0); color:inherit; font-size:85%; text-align:center; padding:0.5em; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:12em;" class="plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Bugzilla" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Bugzilla">Bugzilla</a> <a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72924" class="extiw" title="bugzilla:72924">Bug 72924</a> </div> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-03T21:31:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-30T18:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-17T09:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-30T18:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="CLARA" data-mw-thread-id="h-CLARA-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z">CLARA</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1615" title="Property:P1615">CLARA-ID</a> (P1615) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1615" title="Property talk:P1615">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Database about women visual artists</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>string (numeric)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Female artists</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>numeric</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q6781930" title="Q6781930">María Brito (Q6781930)</a> => 942 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://clara.nmwa.org/index.php?g=entity_detail&entity_id=942">http://clara.nmwa.org/index.php?g=entity_detail&entity_id=942</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>/^\d+$/</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://clara.nmwa.org/">http://clara.nmwa.org/</a> - see <a href="/wiki/Q18558540" title="Q18558540">CLARA (Q18558540)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Mapping via <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/?">Mix'n'match</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske" title="User:Magnus Manske">Magnus Manske</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnus_Manske" title="User talk:Magnus Manske">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Requested on Mix'n'match by GLAM community. <a href="/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske" title="User:Magnus Manske">Magnus Manske</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnus_Manske" title="User talk:Magnus Manske">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Magnus_Manske-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z-CLARA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-19T10:07:00.000Z-Magnus_Manske-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jane023-2014-11-19T10:21:00.000Z-Magnus_Manske-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support But should we just store the entity ID value ("942" in the example given) as a string? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-19T14:48:00.000Z-Magnus_Manske-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support and updated the proposal to remove possible confusion about what we're going to store. I'm quite sure <a href="/wiki/User:Missvain" title="User:Missvain">Sarah</a> will be pleased with this property too. <a href="/wiki/User:Multichill" title="User:Multichill">Multichill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Multichill" title="User talk:Multichill">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Multichill-2014-11-21T19:38:00.000Z-Magnus_Manske-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T21:47:00.000Z-Magnus_Manske-2014-11-19T10:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="SIREN_code" data-mw-thread-id="h-SIREN_code-2014-11-10T21:34:00.000Z">SIREN code</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1616" title="Property:P1616">SIREN number</a> (P1616) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1616" title="Property talk:P1616">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>unique string identifying companies and administrations based in France</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q15817081" title="Q15817081">SIREN</a> (Q15817081)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>subclasses of organization</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>9-digit string</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td> <dl><dd><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q456" title="Q456">Lyon (Q456)</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.infogreffe.fr/societes/entreprise-societe/216901231-commune-de-lyon-21690123100011.html?afficherretour=true">216 901 231</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q504998" title="Q504998">LVMH (Q504998)</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.infogreffe.fr/societes/entreprise-societe/775670417-lvmh-moet-hennessy-louis-vuitton-750171B050740000.html?typeProduitOnglet=EXTRAIT&afficherretour=false">775 670 417</a></li></ul></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.infogreffe.fr">https://www.infogreffe.fr</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Verdy_p" title="User:Verdy p">user:Verdy p</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> All French organisations and administrations have a legal identifier known as "numéro SIREN". (this is mandatory for having a legal identity, for any commercial billings, for ownning bank accounts, for requesting public subsidies; all billing forms MUST display it). It is needed to create unique identifiers for many territorial collectivities and it is more precise than the "code INSEE" (for example used for communes but for various usages including the municipality itself, or any resident in that commune, or any other orgnisation or administration located in that area). Basically it is NOT a geographical identifier (even if it may be assigned to entities defined geographically). Communes, prefectures, subprefectures, groupments of communes (EPCI), all have this identifier. Associated communes (within a commune) also have their distinctive Insee number and SIREN (because they manage their own "état-civil", even if they don't have a deliberating council and are not autonomous financially). Its format is 9 digits (including the last "check digit" computed with the Luhn algorithm). Normally, all public administrations have a SIREN number starting by 2: <ul><li>For a commune in the French Metropole, its format is usually "21dd0nnnk" where dd is the department number (20 for both departements of Corsica), nnn is the commune number (the last three digits from its Insee code), and k is the Luhn check digit.</li> <li>For a commune in the French Overseas, its format is usually "219ddnnnk", where 9dd is the departement number (971 or higher), and "nnn" is also the last three digits of its Insee code (i.e. the last digit of he departement number repeated, and the two digits of the commune number)</li> <li>For any EPCI (groups of communes, including non-autonomous syndicates, and the new metropoles), its format is usually "240nnnnnk" (they are allocated sequentially without reference to a departement number. The SIREN code is the only valid unique identifier : Insee does not allocate a separate geographic code for them (like for national administrative subdivisions: regions, departement, arrondissement, commune) simply because EPCIs can span communes from several regions or departements. Note: for administrations competent within the same departement or same region (same Insee code) there are several SIREN numbers : one for the local council, a separate one for prefectures/subprefecture, possibly others for academies, or offices of tourism controled by a municipality (but the SIREN may encompass establishements or public properties located outside the territory of the public authority).</li></ul> I request a new property similiar to the "code commune INSEE" for "numéro SIREN". It will be especially useful for EPCIs, but could be assigned to communes, departements, regions (for their local councils), prefectures and subprefectures. And of course for companies and associations. Note: <dl><dd>The SIRET is an extension of the SIREN, but for geographic-specific establishments of the registered organisation. All organisations have a SIRET, assigned sequentially within the scope of their SIREN. The SIRET is made with the 9 digits of the SIREN, plus the 5 digits of a "NIC" number for the establishment (a number from 0001 to 7999, 0000 is reserved as a filler for data meant to cover the whole organisation without distinguishing its establishements, followed by a check digit), for a total of 14 digits (including the last check digit computed on the 14 digits of the whole SIRET with the Luhn algorithm).</dd> <dd>I don't think we need SIRET numbers in data, but it's possible that we could reuse the same property, taking either 9 or 14 digits (SIREN or SIRET).</dd> <dd>The "European VAT number" for organisations in France is made of a prefix ("FR" followed by 2 digits) and the 9 digits of the SIREN (there's a basic check algorithm which apparently uses a modulo 97 algorithm in the 2 digits of the prefix, but the format varies between European countries, so if needed it could be another separate property. It could be a substitute for the French SIREN, but only if we can confirm that the EU VAT number will keep this format in France so that we can safely extract the SIREN from it.</dd></dl> <a href="/wiki/User:Verdy_p" title="User:Verdy p">Verdy p</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Verdy_p" title="User talk:Verdy p">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Verdy_p-2014-11-10T21:34:00.000Z-SIREN_code" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 10 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Could you clarify "It could be a substitute for the French SIREN, but only if we can confirm that the EU VAT number will keep this format in France so that we can safely extract the SIREN from it.". You mean it's not acceptable to print the FR prefix? --<a href="/wiki/User:Dereckson" title="User:Dereckson">Dereckson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dereckson" title="User talk:Dereckson">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Dereckson-2014-11-11T00:00:00.000Z-Verdy_p-2014-11-10T21:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. It appears that it can indeed be inferred from the VAT number, but it works both ways. Country-specific properties like SIREN seems to ne more convenient than the VAT number, because their format is more standardized which makes automated checks simpler. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-11-20T06:43:00.000Z-Verdy_p-2014-11-10T21:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 20 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Verdy_p" title="User:Verdy p"><bdi>Verdy p</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Dereckson" title="User:Dereckson"><bdi>Dereckson</bdi></a>: property created as <a href="/wiki/Property:P1616" title="Property:P1616">P:P1616</a> . ---<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-11-22T07:57:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-11-20T06:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 22 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="BBC_Things_identifer" data-mw-thread-id="h-BBC_Things_identifer-2014-10-21T19:57:00.000Z">BBC Things identifer</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1617" title="Property:P1617">BBC Things ID</a> (P1617) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1617" title="Property talk:P1617">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Identifier in the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/things/">BBC Things database</a> (see <a href="/wiki/Q18336371" title="Q18336371">BBC Things (Q18336371)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18336371" title="Q18336371">BBC Things</a> (Q18336371)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>n/a</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>All</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>strings</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q17034697" title="Q17034697">Torbay Council (Q17034697)</a> => 30ee594c-4e1f-4580-9f08-fd8179e6ec19 (resolves to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/things/30ee594c-4e1f-4580-9f08-fd8179e6ec19">http://www.bbc.co.uk/things/30ee594c-4e1f-4580-9f08-fd8179e6ec19</a> )</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/things/">http://www.bbc.co.uk/things/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Possible</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <s>I will ask the BBC for reciprocal links.</s> (Update: Already includes reciprocal links; see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/things/ddabf049-3cbe-4c83-a37f-94076caded7c">http://www.bbc.co.uk/things/ddabf049-3cbe-4c83-a37f-94076caded7c</a> ) <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T19:57:00.000Z-BBC_Things_identifer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Wow, the link gives „Torbay Council is an organisation” back. Thats a lot of usefull information. <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose --<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Succu-2014-10-21T20:04:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>It also gives aliases, and other systems' identifiers. Did you examine any other items? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T21:35:00.000Z-Succu-2014-10-21T20:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/18px-Symbol_wait.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/27px-Symbol_wait.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/36px-Symbol_wait.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Wait I see that this database is still beta. Wouldn't it be better to wait until they officially release it? The structure of the identifiers might still change and it would just cause a lot of work. In general we have so much other work piling up, that something like this seems rather like a low priority. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-21T20:18:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>No; it's functional and available, and the identifiers (and URLs) will persist. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T21:35:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-21T20:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Checking your link I got a popup: „Let us know what you think”. I think, we don't need this, as a mentioned before. --<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Succu-2014-10-21T21:43:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>The popup is a user-satisfaction survey, similar to those used by a number of sites to which we link. It has no bearing on this proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T21:48:00.000Z-Succu-2014-10-21T21:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose I saw value in other BBC identifiers, but not in this one. Maybe in the future.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2014-10-21T22:00:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)"><bdi>Micru</bdi></a>: What leads you to suppose that this type of identifier has no value? Why is the timing an issue? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-21T22:20:00.000Z-Micru-2014-10-21T22:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I see no reason why this cannot be added now. Should the identifiers ever change (and given that they are UUIDs, I don't see that happening) this property can always be renamed "BBC Things Beta ID". Adding it will allow data input to commence now, rather than delay it without good reason. <a href="/wiki/User:Nickshanks" title="User:Nickshanks">Nickshanks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nickshanks" title="User talk:Nickshanks">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Nickshanks-2014-10-24T21:02:00.000Z-BBC_Things_identifer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nickshanks" title="User:Nickshanks">Nickshanks</a>: I see no real argument of yours. But again: What information we get regarding references etc. supporting a beta solution? --<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Succu-2014-10-24T21:14:00.000Z-Nickshanks-2014-10-24T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a>: I wasn't trying to present an argument, just stating my support. To back up my claim, I do not believe the identifiers will change because they (http URIs used to identify each concept) have been used behind the scenes at the BBC for several years. Only now are they publicly dereferencable. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/posts/Opening-up-the-BBCs-Linked-Data">[5]</a>, and the comment at foot of <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://standards.data.gov.uk/proposal/persistent-resolvable-identifiers-proposal">[6]</a> for some background. <a href="/wiki/User:Nickshanks" title="User:Nickshanks">Nickshanks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nickshanks" title="User talk:Nickshanks">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Nickshanks-2014-10-24T23:09:00.000Z-Succu-2014-10-24T21:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T20:38:00.000Z-Nickshanks-2014-10-24T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support per <a href="/wiki/User:Nickshanks" title="User:Nickshanks">Nickshanks</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-02T13:42:00.000Z-Nickshanks-2014-10-24T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:17:00.000Z-Nickshanks-2014-10-24T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="squad_number" data-mw-thread-id="h-squad_number-2014-11-11T02:29:00.000Z">squad number</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1618" title="Property:P1618">sport number</a> (P1618) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1618" title="Property talk:P1618">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>number worn on a player's uniform</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q599003" title="Q599003">uniform number</a> (Q599003)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"clubnumber" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_football_biography" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox football biography">en:template:infobox football biography</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>persons</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q104454" title="Q104454">Mario Götze (Q104454)</a> => 19</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Used in infoboxes. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-11T02:29:00.000Z-squad_number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support But is this a number-datatype? We won't be doing any calculations with it; We don't need floating points; Some sports have leading 0 on their jerseys. I think string-datatype would be more appropriate and just as easy to check constraints for. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-13T16:25:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-11T02:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Also, there are teams that have used both 0 (zero) and 00 (double zero), even if they used single digits for 1 to 9. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=319696">"Double-zero (00) on sports jerseys—why?"</a> (general discussion); <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://ultimatemets.com/uninumbers.php">All-Time Numerical Roster</a> for the New York Mets; <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/numbers.cgi?number=00">NBA & ABA Players Who Wore Uniform Number 00</a> vs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/numbers.cgi?number=0">NBA & ABA Players Who Wore Uniform Number 0</a> (and also 3 vs. 03, 7 vs. 07, 9 vs. 09, which only happened in the 1950s). --<a href="/wiki/User:Closeapple" title="User:Closeapple">Closeapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Closeapple" title="User talk:Closeapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Closeapple-2014-11-13T17:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-13T16:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Changed to string. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-13T18:11:00.000Z-Closeapple-2014-11-13T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-11-19T18:01:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-11T02:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:24:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-11T02:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="date_of_official_opening" data-mw-thread-id="h-date_of_official_opening-2014-10-14T03:49:00.000Z">date of official opening</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1619" title="Property:P1619">date of official opening</a> (P1619) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1619" title="Property talk:P1619">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>date an event, museum, theater etc. officially opened</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>item</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>date</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q456994" title="Q456994">Museum für Moderne Kunst (Q456994)</a> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Property:P571" title="Property:P571">inception (P571)</a> => 1981</li> <li>(ten years later) opened to the public => 1991</li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:P1433-2014" title="User:P1433-2014">P1433-2014</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:P1433-2014" title="User talk:P1433-2014">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Needed in addition to <a href="/wiki/Property:P542" title="Property:P542">officially opened by (P542)</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:P1433-2014" title="User:P1433-2014">P1433-2014</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:P1433-2014" title="User talk:P1433-2014">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-P1433-2014-2014-10-14T03:49:00.000Z-date_of_official_opening" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 14 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Could be useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Eurodyne" title="User:Eurodyne">Eurodyne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eurodyne" title="User talk:Eurodyne">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Eurodyne-2014-10-17T00:28:00.000Z-P1433-2014-2014-10-14T03:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-10-21T15:07:00.000Z-P1433-2014-2014-10-14T03:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> (<img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Wouldn't <a href="/wiki/Property:P793" title="Property:P793">significant event (P793)</a> be used for this? <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:08:00.000Z-date_of_official_opening" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. I've changed the proposed label from 'officially opened in' to 'date of official opening' to clarify that the range of the property is a time, not a place. <a href="/wiki/Property:P793" title="Property:P793">significant event (P793)</a> requires qualifiers, which will not be queryable in the foreseeable future. It also isn't as conducive to a controlled vocabulary as simple properties, which is a drawback. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:34:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T15:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="plaintiff" data-mw-thread-id="h-plaintiff-2014-11-03T13:22:00.000Z">plaintiff</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1620" title="Property:P1620">plaintiff</a> (P1620) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1620" title="Property talk:P1620">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the party who initiates a lawsuit</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Trials, courts martial</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>person, organisation</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18327521" title="Q18327521">Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q6063" title="Q6063">Government of the United Kingdom (Q6063)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Called "plaintiff" in Australia, Hong Kong, Canada, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and the United States, "claimant" in England and Wales, and "pursuer" in Scotland, the plaintiff is the party who initiates a lawsuit. It's a basic term in law that makes sense to consider in the same batch as "defendant", etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-03T13:22:00.000Z-plaintiff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">Amaryllis</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias</a>, could you please vote or comment? This proposed property would be in line with <a href="/wiki/Property:P1591" title="Property:P1591">defendant (P1591)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1592" title="Property:P1592">prosecutor (P1592)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1593" title="Property:P1593">defender (P1593)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P1594" title="Property:P1594">judge (P1594)</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-16T19:31:00.000Z-plaintiff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 16 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-16T19:36:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-16T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - obvious addition to the set. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-16T21:17:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-16T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:39:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-16T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="detail_map" data-mw-thread-id="h-detail_map-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z">detail map</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1621" title="Property:P1621">detail map</a> (P1621) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1621" title="Property talk:P1621">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>a map containing details about the entire location</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#commonsMedia" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Commons media file</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>province, region, district within a country/state etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>existing media on commons</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1460" title="Q1460">Sicily (Q1460)</a> => <a href="/wiki/File:Provinces_of_Sicily_map.png" title="File:Provinces of Sicily map.png">file:Provinces_of_Sicily_map.png</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Bemoeial" title="User:Bemoeial">Bemoeial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bemoeial" title="User talk:Bemoeial">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Motivation Property 'locator map image' is sometimes used to contain a detail map of the province/district/region instead of the location within surrounding country. Both are useful but should not be interchanged. A correct 'locator map' for Sicily is <a href="/wiki/File:Sicily_in_Italy.svg" title="File:Sicily in Italy.svg">file:Sicily_in_Italy.svg</a> whereas <a href="/wiki/File:Provinces_of_Sicily_map.png" title="File:Provinces of Sicily map.png">file:Provinces_of_Sicily_map.png</a> might be a 'detail map' for Sicily <a href="/wiki/User:Bemoeial" title="User:Bemoeial">Bemoeial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bemoeial" title="User talk:Bemoeial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Bemoeial-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z-detail_map" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T21:07:00.000Z-Bemoeial-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-11-05T22:13:00.000Z-Bemoeial-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-11-18T18:46:00.000Z-Bemoeial-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 18 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support May be usefull for battle map or a building plan. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Fralambert-2014-11-19T01:55:00.000Z-Bemoeial-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:46:00.000Z-Bemoeial-2014-10-20T19:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="drives_on_the" data-mw-thread-id="h-drives_on_the-2014-11-09T00:15:00.000Z">drives on the</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1622" title="Property:P1622">driving side</a> (P1622) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1622" title="Property talk:P1622">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the direction that cars drive in a given country</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q220656" title="Q220656">right- and left-hand traffic</a> (Q220656)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"drives_on" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_country" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox country">en:template:Infobox country</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>countries</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q14565198" class="mw-redirect" title="Q14565198">left (Q14565198)</a> or <a href="/wiki/Q14565199" title="Q14565199">right (Q14565199)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q145" title="Q145">United Kingdom (Q145)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q14565198" class="mw-redirect" title="Q14565198">left (Q14565198)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> This property's importance is evident in being in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobox_country" class="extiw" title="en:Infobox country">en:Infobox country</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-09T00:15:00.000Z-drives_on_the" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 9 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support How are we going to handle trains? Austria for example has right driving for roads, but for multiple train tracks it depends on the route. Separate property for trains? <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-09T00:20:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-09T00:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 9 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Separate property, I guess. Trains run, they don't drive. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-11T15:40:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-09T00:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-11-19T18:00:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-09T00:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:50:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-09T00:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="MarineTraffic_Ship_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-MarineTraffic_Ship_ID-2014-06-28T21:05:00.000Z">MarineTraffic Ship ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P1623&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P1623 (page does not exist)">no label</a> (P1623) (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P1623&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P1623 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ship identification number assigned by the MarineTraffic database (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/">http://www.marinetraffic.com/</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18518862" title="Q18518862">MarineTraffic</a> (Q18518862)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>ships, boats and other marine vessels, ports</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>per MarineTraffic assigned ID number: <code>ships/\d{9}</code></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q191888" title="Q191888">Queen Mary 2 (Q191888)</a> => MarineTraffic ID => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/310627000">310627000</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/">http://www.marinetraffic.com/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Possible; esp if MarineTraffic will share data; reciprocal links <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>URL for ships: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/$1">http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/$1</a></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> These links provide live mapping to last known position, declared destination, etc. - see example, above. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:05:00.000Z-MarineTraffic_Ship_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 28 June 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Indeed useful, but make it a simple string, like other such properties; indicate in "robot and gadget jobs" that the hyperlink is to be supplied by <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js">AuthorityControl gadget</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/$1">http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/$1</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-06-29T02:14:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment - Should be string if it is an ID. Why not use one property for ports and ships? There is no ambiguity if you also query if it is p31 "ship" or "port"? -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-07-19T19:39:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - I have combined the Ship and Port ID properties into one, and changed the data type to string. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:23:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 9 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment @<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner"><bdi>Joshbaumgartner</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>: not sure this was a good move - ships and ports have different formats, different URL... -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-09T15:54:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I agree with Laddo; these should be separate. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-11T11:24:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-09T15:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support In the current form. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-11T18:37:00.000Z-MarineTraffic_Ship_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:55:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-11T18:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="MarineTraffic_Port_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-MarineTraffic_Port_ID-2014-06-28T21:19:00.000Z">MarineTraffic Port ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1624" title="Property:P1624">MarineTraffic Port ID</a> (P1624) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1624" title="Property talk:P1624">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>port identification number assigned by the MarineTraffic database (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/">http://www.marinetraffic.com/</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18518862" title="Q18518862">MarineTraffic</a> (Q18518862)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>n/a</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Ports, docks and harbours</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>per MarineTraffic assigned ID number: <code>ports/[1-9]\d{0,4}</code></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>sample items that would use that property, with proposed values; example: <a href="/wiki/Q7232468" title="Q7232468">Portsmouth Harbour (Q7232468)</a> => MarineTraffic ID => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/107">107</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/">http://www.marinetraffic.com/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Possible; esp if MarineTraffic will share data; reciprocal links <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>URL for ports: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/$1">http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/$1</a></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> These links provide live lists of recent arivals, birthed vessels, etc. - see example, above. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:19:00.000Z-MarineTraffic_Port_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 28 June 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Similarly, please make it a text string (e.g. "107") and indicate in "robot and gadget jobs" that the hyperlink is to be supplied by <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js">AuthorityControl gadget</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/$1">http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/$1</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-06-29T02:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/> Not done Proposal merged into MarineTraffic ID property proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-06-28T21:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 9 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I object to these proposals being merged; the URL pattern for each type is different and the numbers may not be unique between types. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-11T11:27:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support In this form. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-11T18:34:00.000Z-MarineTraffic_Port_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T11:56:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-11T18:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="has_melody" data-mw-thread-id="h-has_melody-2014-10-31T21:54:00.000Z">has melody</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1625" title="Property:P1625">has melody</a> (P1625) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1625" title="Property talk:P1625">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>This work has the melody of the following work:</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q170412" title="Q170412">melody</a> (Q170412)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>musical works</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>all</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1058356" title="Q1058356">Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star (Q1058356)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q18336185" title="Q18336185">Ah! vous dirais-je, Maman (Q18336185)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mvolz" title="User talk:Mvolz">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Add aliases "To the tune of" and "TTTO". <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T21:54:00.000Z-has_melody" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-16T03:45:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T21:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 16 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T12:01:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T21:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Thai_cultural_heritage_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thai_cultural_heritage_ID-2014-10-17T19:16:00.000Z">Thai cultural heritage ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1626" title="Property:P1626">Thai cultural heritage ID</a> (P1626) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1626" title="Property talk:P1626">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>identifier for cultural heritage properties in Thailand</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q16438244" title="Q16438244">registered Thai historic site (Q16438244)</a> (will be <a href="/wiki/Property:P1435" title="Property:P1435">heritage designation (P1435)</a> instead of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> later)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>7 digit numbers, with leading zeros</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q16862605" title="Q16862605">Wat Phatthanaram (Q16862605)</a> 0005123</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Lists in <a href="https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%88:%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B7%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%93%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%96%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B6%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A3" class="extiw" title="th:หมวดหมู่:รายชื่อโบราณสถานที่ขึ้นทะเบียนโดยกรมศิลปากร">th:หมวดหมู่:รายชื่อโบราณสถานที่ขึ้นทะเบียนโดยกรมศิลปากร</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Will adapt <a href="/wiki/User:TambonBot" title="User:TambonBot">User:TambonBot</a> myself</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ahoerstemeier" title="User:Ahoerstemeier">Ahoerstemeier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahoerstemeier" title="User talk:Ahoerstemeier">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Unique identifier for Thai heritage sites, i.e. sites registered by the <a href="/wiki/Q1416884" title="Q1416884">Fine Arts Department (Q1416884)</a>. Complete list of this sites compiled by the Thai Wikipedia as part of their local WLM contest, this ID will make them identifiable easier and also allow to link with the Fine Arts Department website - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.gis.finearts.go.th/fad50/fad/display_data.aspx?id=0005123">http://www.gis.finearts.go.th/fad50/fad/display_data.aspx?id=0005123</a> is the official page for ID 0005123 (<a href="/wiki/Q16862605" title="Q16862605">Wat Phatthanaram (Q16862605)</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Ahoerstemeier" title="User:Ahoerstemeier">Ahoerstemeier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahoerstemeier" title="User talk:Ahoerstemeier">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ahoerstemeier-2014-10-17T19:16:00.000Z-Thai_cultural_heritage_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 17 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T13:52:00.000Z-Ahoerstemeier-2014-10-17T19:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-19T15:06:00.000Z-Ahoerstemeier-2014-10-17T19:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-11-19T15:10:00.000Z-Ahoerstemeier-2014-10-17T19:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T12:07:00.000Z-Ahoerstemeier-2014-10-17T19:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="SIL_code" data-mw-thread-id="h-SIL_code-2014-10-17T16:54:00.000Z">SIL code</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1627" title="Property:P1627">Ethnologue.com language code</a> (P1627) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1627" title="Property talk:P1627">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIL_International" class="extiw" title="en:SIL International">en:SIL International</a> language code</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"sil" in <a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:J%C4%99zyk_infobox" class="extiw" title="pl:Szablon:Język infobox">pl:Szablon:Język infobox</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>languages</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>3 lower letters</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q809" title="Q809">Polish (Q809)</a> => "pol"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ethnologue.com/codes/download-code-tables">http://www.ethnologue.com/codes/download-code-tables</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Malarz_pl" title="User:Malarz pl">Malarz pl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malarz_pl" title="User talk:Malarz pl">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="User:Paweł Ziemian">Paweł Ziemian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="User talk:Paweł Ziemian">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paweł_Ziemian-2014-10-17T16:54:00.000Z-SIL_code" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-02T13:49:00.000Z-Paweł_Ziemian-2014-10-17T16:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T12:12:00.000Z-Paweł_Ziemian-2014-10-17T16:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Equivalent_property" data-mw-thread-id="h-Equivalent_property-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z">Equivalent property</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1628" title="Property:P1628">equivalent property</a> (P1628) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1628" title="Property talk:P1628">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Equivalent property in other ontologies.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#url" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">URL</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>WD Property - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Hyperlinks with semantics matching that of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#equivalentProperty-def">owl:equivalentProperty</a> .</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> equivalent property of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_type">rdf:type</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Property:P460" title="Property:P460">said to be the same as (P460)</a> equivalent property of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def">owl:sameAs</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of (P279)</a> equivalent property of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_subclassof">rdfs:subClassOf</a></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>No</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Equivalent_property" title="Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/10">Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Equivalent property</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Originally requested by <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">User:Filceolaire</a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Equivalent_property" title="Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/10">Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Equivalent property</a>: "links to equivalent properties in other ontologies." -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z-Equivalent_property" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dt>Original discussion (Oct 2013)</dt> <dd> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support It would allow us to do automatic mapping. It's similar to owl:sameAs. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z-Equivalent_property" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 9 October 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment. Since we're talking about properties, we should call this 'equivalent property' and have its semantics match those of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#equivalentProperty-def">owl:equivalentProperty</a>. ('Same as' should match <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def">owl:sameAs</a> and thus apply only to individuals, i.e. items that have 'instance of' claims.) As with other property properties here, I would support storing 'equivalent property' claims only if the semantics matched those of owl:equivalentProperty. A <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Same_as" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic">'same as' property proposal</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic&oldid=77723097#Same_as">permlink</a>) recently garnered significant discussion from Wikidata developers and Semantic Web researchers. A relevant excerpt:</dd> <dd><blockquote class="templatequote"><div class="Bug6200">The property owl:sameAs is used to say that two things are exactly equal. One could also say that sameAs declares two identifiers to be synonymous. So anything that was said for the one identifier could also be said for the other. In particular, this means that both things have the same properties. It is a very strong statement of absolute and unlimited identity.</div><div class="templatequotecite">—<a href="/wiki/User:Markus_Kr%C3%B6tzsch" title="User:Markus Krötzsch">Markus Krötzsch</a></div></blockquote></dd> <dd>Even though Markus isn't referring to this specific property, I have a hunch that he would issue similar cautions about this property. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2013-10-14T15:56:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Per my comment immediately above, I've changed the name of this proposed metadata field from 'Same as' to 'Equivalent property'. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2013-10-19T13:19:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 19 October 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Conditional support I would support storing 'equivalent property' claims only if the semantics matched those of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#equivalentProperty-def">owl:equivalentProperty</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2013-10-19T13:19:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 19 October 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dt>More discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-13T17:19:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-11-15T21:27:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-26T12:30:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-10-09T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Subject_item" data-mw-thread-id="h-Subject_item-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z">Subject item</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1629" title="Property:P1629">Wikidata item of this property</a> (P1629) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1629" title="Property talk:P1629">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>item corresponding exactly to the concept represented by the property, if applicable.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><code class="nowrap" style="">|Equivalent item=</code> in Wikidata's <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Property_documentation" title="Template:Property documentation">Property documentation</a>}}</code></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>WD Property - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any item</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P22" title="Property:P22">father (P22)</a> ==> <a href="/wiki/Q7565" title="Q7565">father (Q7565)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Initially from subject item of <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Property_documentation" title="Template:Property documentation">Property documentation</a>}}</code> on the talk page of each property</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Initial creation to be performed by bots</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z-Subject_item" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Necessary to replace field subject item of <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Property_documentation" title="Template:Property documentation">Property documentation</a>}}</code>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z-Subject_item-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-15T15:49:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-11-15T21:26:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-26T12:26:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 26 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Formatter_URL_/_/_/_URL_di_formattazione" data-mw-thread-id="h-Formatter_URL_/_/_/_URL_di_formattazione-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z">Formatter URL / / / URL di formattazione</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL</a> (P1630) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1630" title="Property talk:P1630">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>a URL-like string, such as "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://viaf.org/viaf/$1/">http://viaf.org/viaf/$1/</a>", from which "$1" can be automatically replaced with the effective property value on items</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>no</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Properties with a StringType that needs "formatting"</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>a URL-like string with "$1" in place of the effective property value</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P214" title="Property:P214">Property:VIAF</a> → "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://viaf.org/viaf/$1/">http://viaf.org/viaf/$1/</a>"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>no</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Tools#AuthorityControl.js" title="Wikidata:Tools">AuthorityControl.js</a> could use this property, instead of internal settings, to format a property value on items' pages</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z-Formatter_URL_/_/_/_URL_di_formattazione" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support This would be great for all sorts of string/number properties to make them IRI-like. For example in biology and genetics, it is useful to know that the gene <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclin-dependent_kinase_2" class="extiw" title="en:Cyclin-dependent kinase 2">CDK2</a> has the Entrez Gene ID of 1017. Although that identifier is useful to know for many contexts, it is also good to note that <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/1017/">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/1017/</a> is the link where that identifier is defined. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Su" title="User talk:Andrew Su">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Andrew_Su-2013-03-14T18:55:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Espeso-2013-03-15T06:06:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I have to say I do not see how it is supposed to work. From what I see, that should be a property of a property (here a property of p214), but we do not have that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2013-03-15T09:04:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Not yet! --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-15T09:07:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-15T09:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>But is there any hint that the development team has plans for that ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2013-03-15T09:28:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-15T09:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I don't think it's very different from having properties on items; ask someone! --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-15T09:30:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-15T09:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I thought you meant that the item pages like <a href="/wiki/Q54919" title="Q54919">Q54919</a> (VIAF), would contain this statement. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Espeso-2013-03-15T14:21:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-15T09:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose We have now the reference structure so we can directly use the whole URL as a reference link. If the idea is just to create a link I thinkthat will transform wikidata in a links directory. Perhaps I don't see the utility but if you give an example that would be clearer. Right now for viaf we have a property so no need to create a new property just to have the link: you can put the link as a reference. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:12:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I conceived this property to replace the internal 'database' in <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js</a>, to provide a standard and <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Wikibase">Wikibase</a>-level way to build links from claims; if this can be achieved differently, or it is not technically possible, or the community does not want it, I can smoothly withdraw this proposal. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-08-02T22:34:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>Snipre: Web sites do sometimes change the way they format urls. This function means we only need to change one property when this happens and every link is back working again. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2013-08-20T20:53:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support As long as it can be added to property pages.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Micru-2013-08-17T22:10:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Add to the Q items for that corresponds to the Authority file property for now even if we don't yet know how to make this work to automatically convert authority file IDs into web addresses. Having this info in an editable form will be important the next time some website changes their url format. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2013-08-18T22:56:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 18 August 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>It would be neat to use this on the property page. I'm not sure I agree that we should do Filceolaire's suggestion—it could seep out into the wild as any site with a URL of any sort might end up with it, even when that was not the intention or desired use, and I'm pretty sure that would be bad. --<a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Izno-2013-09-17T03:29:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I think the merge of all AuthorityControl-properties in combination with the use of this in the item would do fine, as soon as the other problems are solved! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lavallen" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lavallen">Lavallen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lavallen" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lavallen">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Lavallen-2013-09-17T05:54:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I also suggested this as a way to clean up the dozens of Database ID's that are being created - could use <Apple> database ID <"APL1">{for database: FruitPedia} and then <FruitPedia> formatter URL <"www.f.com/fruit?$1">. Otherwise the problem we are going to have is hundreds of properties for marginally notable properties. <a href="/wiki/User:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Macadamia1472">Macadamia1472</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Macadamia1472">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Macadamia1472-2013-10-16T09:38:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-13T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="China_vitae_person's_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-China_vitae_person's_ID-2014-11-19T06:47:00.000Z">China vitae person's ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1631" title="Property:P1631">China Vitae person ID</a> (P1631) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1631" title="Property talk:P1631">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Person's ID on chinavitae.com</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>people</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>numeric strings</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q15031" title="Q15031">Xi Jinping (Q15031)</a> -> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.chinavitae.com/biography/303">303</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>référence externe, article de liste de Wikipédia (soit infobox, soit source)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> The website contains data about Chinese officials, mostly about the functions they hold. Data come mostly from Chinese-gouvernment affliated institutions <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.chinavitae.com/aboutus.php">[7]</a>, which may not be among the most reliable sources on political matters, but for this type of information, this seems to make sense in most cases. It appears to be the most comprehensive English-language source on the topic. <a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-11-19T06:47:00.000Z-China_vitae_person's_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-19T15:04:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-11-19T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>:: done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1631" title="Property:P1631">P:P1631</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-11-29T11:49:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-19T15:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 29 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Hermann–Mauguin_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hermann–Mauguin_notation-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z">Hermann–Mauguin notation</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1632" title="Property:P1632">Hermann-Mauguin notation</a> (P1632) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1632" title="Property talk:P1632">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Hermann–Mauguin notation of the mineral's symmetry element (short form)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q903232" title="Q903232">Hermann–Mauguin notation</a> (Q903232)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"Kristallklasse" (Crystal class) in <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Mineral" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Mineral">de:Vorlage:Infobox Mineral</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7946" title="Q7946">mineral (Q7946)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>32: <pre>1 1 2 m 2/m 222 mm2 mmm 4 4 4/m 422 4mm 42m 4/mmm 3 3 32 3m 3m 6 6 6/m 622 6mm 6m2 6/mmm 23 m3 432 43m </pre> m3m</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q171917" title="Q171917">calcite (Q171917)</a> => 3m</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z-Hermann–Mauguin_notation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Question: Should there be an item for each of the 32 possible values? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-13T09:56:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>: We have already created the 32 items representing the point groups. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2014-11-13T12:59:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-13T09:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Do you mean, for example, <a href="/wiki/Q503601" title="Q503601">tetragonal crystal system (Q503601)</a>? That seems to have no relation to <a href="/wiki/Q903232" title="Q903232">Hermann–Mauguin notation (Q903232)</a>, but is a subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q895901" title="Q895901">crystal structure (Q895901)</a> and instance of <a href="/wiki/Q898786" title="Q898786">crystal system (Q898786)</a>. Where can I find all 32 items? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-13T13:31:00.000Z-Snipre-2014-11-13T12:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>: This is a handy list: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Mineralogy/Crystallography" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/Crystallography">Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/Crystallography</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-13T16:02:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-13T13:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Indeed it is, thank you - but I was looking for a discrete list of 32, as a "subclass of" something, or using "what links here". <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-13T21:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-13T16:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support @<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre"><bdi>Kopiersperre</bdi></a>: This property should be a string property used in the 32 items describing the point groups. See <a href="/wiki/Property:P589" title="Property:P589">point group (P589)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2014-11-13T12:59:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I changed datatype to string. Does anyone know if we can do all the symbols with the string property? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-13T15:59:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o"><bdi>Chris.urs-o</bdi></a>: Can you still look over this proposal and see if it will work? The space groups will need lower case numbers. Do you think that is manageable? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:16:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support We have <a href="/wiki/Q899720" title="Q899720">point group (Q899720)</a>, I think that it is the same. Wikidata is young, we have problems with the units: Mohs hardness has to be written as 1.5±1 instead of 1½-2½. The idea was to get the space group of the crystallographic solved minerals. And add crystal system and point group with a bot. Almost 5,000 minerals, added manually. I think that there is no CC-0 database available. The point group could be converted in Hermann–Mauguin notation, before adding it to the infobox. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Chris.urs-o-2014-11-22T10:24:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o"><bdi>Chris.urs-o</bdi></a>: First I was confused, but now I know what you mean. The example says that the minerals should get the notation, which I also think is a bad idea. I think only the crystallographic groups should get the Hermann–Mauguin statements, and the minerals can link to those groups via the existing properties. The "International Tables For Crystallography" were apparently published in 1935. Are those values still under copyright? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-22T11:05:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2014-11-22T10:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 22 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I don't know really (I was talking about bot requests). But this is notation, unit, glossary. You can't express yourself without this convention. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Chris.urs-o-2014-11-22T12:20:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-22T11:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 22 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-29T14:54:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 29 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="religious_name" data-mw-thread-id="h-religious_name-2014-11-18T22:43:00.000Z">religious name</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1635" title="Property:P1635">religious name</a> (P1635) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1635" title="Property talk:P1635">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>name taken upon joining a religious community</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1417657" title="Q1417657">religious name</a> (Q1417657)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#monolingualtext" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Monolingual text</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>string</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q434579" title="Q434579">Théodore Guérin (Q434579)</a> => Sister St. Theodore, Mother Theodore</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q4751905" title="Q4751905">Anastasie Brown (Q4751905)</a> => Sister Anastasie, Mother Anastasie</li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Nuns, brothers and other religious folk take a particular name when they enter their specific community. There's no real way I can tell to indicate this right now. It's more specific than an alias and more in line with birth name (monolingual). (I think I did this wrong the first time I tried to ask for this property.) :) <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-11-18T22:43:00.000Z-religious_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:43, 18 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-20T01:42:00.000Z-Sweet_kate-2014-11-18T22:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:42, 20 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support but not sure about the datatype. For instance, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilarion_(Ohienko)" class="extiw" title="en:Hilarion (Ohienko)">en:Hilarion (Ohienko)</a>, <a href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%86%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD_(%D0%9E%D0%B3%D1%96%D1%94%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE)" class="extiw" title="uk:Іларіон (Огієнко)">uk:Іларіон (Огієнко)</a>, <a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwan_Ohijenko" class="extiw" title="pl:Iwan Ohijenko">pl:Iwan Ohijenko</a> show different language variants of the same religious name Hilarion/Іларіон/Iłarion. This should be consistent with properties like <a href="/wiki/Property:P735" title="Property:P735">given name</a> and should be either all of datatype Item (like it is now) or Multilingual text (I support this more because of some problems with Item - see <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P735#Mess" title="Property talk:P735">here</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Names#first_name_property_should_be_Multilingual_text.2C_but_not_Item" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Names">here</a>) --<a href="/wiki/User:DixonD" title="User:DixonD">DixonD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DixonD" title="User talk:DixonD">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-DixonD-2014-11-20T08:18:00.000Z-Sweet_kate-2014-11-18T22:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I agree. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-20T13:04:00.000Z-DixonD-2014-11-20T08:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yep. Of the two I prefer Multilingual text. I'm new to Wikidata but not to data in general and it didn't take me long to recognize the given name/Item problems referenced by <a href="/wiki/User:DixonD" title="User:DixonD">DixonD</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Emw-2014-11-20T13:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support — <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ayack-2014-11-20T08:52:00.000Z-Sweet_kate-2014-11-18T22:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 20 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done — <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ayack-2014-12-01T07:59:00.000Z-religious_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:59, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I believe there was clear consensus not to make it monolingual text. Now more mess is introduced when some name properties are items, some are supposed to be multilingual texts, and this one is monolingual text. --<a href="/wiki/User:DixonD" title="User:DixonD">DixonD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DixonD" title="User talk:DixonD">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-DixonD-2014-12-03T05:37:00.000Z-Ayack-2014-12-01T07:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 3 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>That confused me too. Can it be switched to multilingual? <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-12-03T18:02:00.000Z-DixonD-2014-12-03T05:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I wonder if it can also be used for pen name or art name?--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2014-12-03T23:20:00.000Z-religious_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>It seems <a href="/wiki/Property:P742" title="Property:P742">pseudonym (P742)</a> would be more appropriate for that use. <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-12-04T15:33:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2014-12-03T23:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Baptism_date" data-mw-thread-id="h-Baptism_date-2014-11-30T18:39:00.000Z">Baptism date</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1636" title="Property:P1636">date of baptism</a> (P1636) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1636" title="Property talk:P1636">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Date a person was baptised</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><code class="nowrap" style="">|baptism=</code> in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:infobox_person" class="extiw" title="en:Template:infobox person">en:Template:infobox person</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>People</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Dates (possibly times)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q255" title="Q255">Ludwig van Beethoven (Q255)</a> => 17 December 1770</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Wikipedia</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Particularly useful for people from the period in Europe when baptism, not birth date, was recorded in church registers. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T18:39:00.000Z-Baptism_date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 30 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support usefull property.--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2014-11-30T18:45:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T18:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Like that fellow Shakespeare. Very useful property. - <a href="/wiki/User:PKM" title="User:PKM">PKM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PKM" title="User talk:PKM">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-PKM-2014-12-01T00:02:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T18:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-12-01T00:35:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T18:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="undercarriage" data-mw-thread-id="h-undercarriage-2014-11-09T10:11:00.000Z">undercarriage</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1637" title="Property:P1637">undercarriage</a> (P1637) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1637" title="Property talk:P1637">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>type of aircraft landing gear the item is equipped with</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q263421" title="Q263421">undercarriage</a> (Q263421)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q11436" title="Q11436">aircraft (Q11436)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Subclasses of <a href="/wiki/Q263421" title="Q263421">undercarriage (Q263421)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q244479" title="Q244479">Cessna 172 Skyhawk (Q244479)</a> -> undercarriage -> <a href="/wiki/Q2874353" title="Q2874353">tricycle gear (Q2874353)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Useful specific information for aircraft. Part of the basic description of an aircraft design. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:11:00.000Z-undercarriage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 9 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-12T18:21:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-11-26T15:33:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 26 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-12-02T04:20:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-09T10:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 2 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="working_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-working_title-2014-10-27T23:03:00.000Z">working title</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1638" title="Property:P1638">working title</a> (P1638) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1638" title="Property talk:P1638">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Working title, sometimes called a production title, is the temporary name of a product or project used during its development</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1170216" title="Q1170216">working title</a> (Q1170216)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#monolingualtext" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Monolingual text</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"working_title" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_book" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox book">en:template:infobox book</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>filmmaking, television production, novel, video game, or music album</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>all</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q181803" title="Q181803">Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (Q181803)</a> => Return of the Jedi (note that it was later released as Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_title" class="extiw" title="en:Working title">en:Working title</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezonansowy" title="User talk:Rezonansowy">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Would be very useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezonansowy" title="User talk:Rezonansowy">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Rezonansowy-2014-10-27T23:03:00.000Z-working_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 27 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a> Can you complete the example by adding the working title of 'Animal Farm'? Also for the proposal below. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T22:03:00.000Z-Rezonansowy-2014-10-27T23:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>:I changed it a little. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezonansowy" title="User talk:Rezonansowy">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Rezonansowy-2014-11-03T15:51:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-10-31T22:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> @<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>: Would you support this? --(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezonansowy" title="User talk:Rezonansowy">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Rezonansowy-2014-11-15T11:33:00.000Z-working_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a>: I think there are better examples than this one. The movie was released with the title Return of the Jedi so it is more than a working title. We already have a lot of name properties but I can see that this one could be useful so I will <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support but i think the datatype should be monolingual text not string. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-15T15:03:00.000Z-Rezonansowy-2014-11-15T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>OK, I'm not an expert in this :) Monolingual text would be better <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>: Could you support? --<a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezonansowy" title="User talk:Rezonansowy">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Rezonansowy-2014-12-02T17:38:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-11-15T15:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 2 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-16T03:47:00.000Z-Rezonansowy-2014-11-15T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-11-24T22:38:00.000Z-Rezonansowy-2014-11-15T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment @<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><bdi>Harmonia Amanda</bdi></a>: We have 3 supporters plus me onn this request. Can we proceed this? --<a href="/wiki/User:Rezonansowy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rezonansowy">Rezonansowy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezonansowy" title="User talk:Rezonansowy">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Rezonansowy-2014-12-05T10:04:00.000Z-Rezonansowy-2014-11-15T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 5 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2014-12-05T13:55:00.000Z-Rezonansowy-2014-12-05T10:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 5 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Pendant_of" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pendant_of-2014-11-17T05:29:00.000Z">Pendant of</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1639" title="Property:P1639">pendant of</a> (P1639) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1639" title="Property talk:P1639">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>term for a pair of opposing artworks, such as wedding portraits, commissioned together, but not always</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q591644" title="Q591644">pendant</a> (Q591644)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>(item)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>creative work, Painting, sculpture</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>item...</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><ul class="gallery mw-gallery-packed"> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 186.66666666667px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 184.66666666667px;"><a href="/wiki/File:Frans_Hals_038.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Stephanus Geeraerdts Alderman in Haarlem (Q17644055)"><img alt="Stephanus Geeraerdts Alderman in Haarlem (Q17644055)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Frans_Hals_038.jpg/277px-Frans_Hals_038.jpg" decoding="async" width="185" height="250" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Frans_Hals_038.jpg/417px-Frans_Hals_038.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Frans_Hals_038.jpg/555px-Frans_Hals_038.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2024" data-file-height="2734"/></a></div> <div class="gallerytext"><a href="/wiki/Q17644055" title="Q17644055">Stephanus Geeraerdts Alderman in Haarlem (Q17644055)</a></div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 189.33333333333px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 187.33333333333px;"><a href="/wiki/File:Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Portrait of Isabella Coymans (Q17644271)"><img alt="Portrait of Isabella Coymans (Q17644271)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg/281px-Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg" decoding="async" width="188" height="250" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg/422px-Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg/562px-Frans_Hals_-_Portrait_d%27Isabella_Coymans.jpg 2x" data-file-width="749" data-file-height="1000"/></a></div> <div class="gallerytext"><a href="/wiki/Q17644271" title="Q17644271">Portrait of Isabella Coymans (Q17644271)</a></div> </li> </ul></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> I would like to indicate this for paintings, but the concept also exists for other objects such as sculpted plaques or delft vases or silver boxes - note that sometimes the wife had her portrait done by another painter (especially when she was a second wife and the first male pendant got re-used). For usage of this concept on Commons, see <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Pendant_of" class="extiw" title="c:Template:Pendant of">c:Template:Pendant of</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jane023-2014-11-17T05:29:00.000Z-Pendant_of" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, appears to be needed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-11-21T07:10:00.000Z-Jane023-2014-11-17T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, very useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinster" title="User:Spinster">Spinster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinster" title="User talk:Spinster">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Spinster-2014-11-21T10:34:00.000Z-Jane023-2014-11-17T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support but please expand the description, not only wedding portraits--<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-11-21T12:35:00.000Z-Jane023-2014-11-17T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Pyb" title="User:Pyb">Pyb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyb" title="User talk:Pyb">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pyb-2014-12-08T15:00:00.000Z-Jane023-2014-11-17T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 8 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Curator" data-mw-thread-id="h-Curator-2013-05-30T08:50:00.000Z">Curator</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1640" title="Property:P1640">curator</a> (P1640) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1640" title="Property talk:P1640">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>mettre la description en anglais ici, par exemple la même que celle de la documentation de l'infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_Exposition" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Infobox Exposition">fr:Modèle:Infobox Exposition</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>museums, collections, exhibitions</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Q5</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">User:Zolo</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jane023-2013-05-30T08:50:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Vincent_Steenberg" title="User:Vincent Steenberg">User:Vincent Steenberg</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kippelboy" title="User:Kippelboy">User:Kippelboy</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Shonagon" title="User:Shonagon">User:Shonagon</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Marsupium" title="User:Marsupium">Marsupium</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marsupium" title="User talk:Marsupium">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Marsupium-2013-10-18T13:46:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:GautierPoupeau" title="User:GautierPoupeau">GautierPoupeau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GautierPoupeau" title="User talk:GautierPoupeau">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-GautierPoupeau-2014-01-09T16:55:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Multichill" title="User:Multichill">Multichill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Multichill" title="User talk:Multichill">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Multichill-2014-07-08T19:13:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Susannaanas" title="User:Susannaanas">Susannaanas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Susannaanas" title="User talk:Susannaanas">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Susannaanas-2014-08-12T11:32:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)</a> I want to synchronize the handling of maps with this initiative <a href="/wiki/User:Mushroom" title="User:Mushroom">Mushroom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushroom" title="User talk:Mushroom">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mushroom-2014-08-24T00:10:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jheald" title="User:Jheald">Jheald</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jheald" title="User talk:Jheald">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jheald-2014-09-09T17:09:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spinster" title="User:Spinster">Spinster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinster" title="User talk:Spinster">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Spinster-2014-09-12T15:16:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:PKM" title="User:PKM">PKM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PKM" title="User talk:PKM">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-PKM-2014-10-08T21:16:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-01-07T17:12:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 7 January 2015‎ (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Sic19" title="User:Sic19">Sic19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sic19" title="User talk:Sic19">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sic19-2016-02-19T21:12:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Wittylama" title="User:Wittylama">Wittylama</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wittylama" title="User talk:Wittylama">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Wittylama-2017-02-22T13:13:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Armineaghayan" title="User:Armineaghayan">Armineaghayan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Armineaghayan" title="User talk:Armineaghayan">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Armineaghayan-2017-03-10T08:40:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Musedata102" title="User:Musedata102">Musedata102</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Musedata102" title="User talk:Musedata102">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Musedata102-2019-11-26T20:27:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 26 November 2019 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Hannolans" title="User:Hannolans">Hannolans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hannolans" title="User talk:Hannolans">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Hannolans-2017-04-16T18:36:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 16 April 2017 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martingggg" title="User:Martingggg">User:Martingggg</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Zeroth" title="User:Zeroth">Zeroth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zeroth" title="User talk:Zeroth">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zeroth-2018-06-04T02:21:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:7samurais&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:7samurais (page does not exist)">User:7samurais</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mrtngrsbch" title="User:Mrtngrsbch">User:mrtngrsbch</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Buccalon" title="User:Buccalon">User:Buccalon</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Infopetal" title="User:Infopetal">Infopetal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infopetal" title="User talk:Infopetal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Infopetal-2019-08-09T17:54:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Karinanw" title="User:Karinanw">Karinanw</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Karinanw&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Karinanw (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Karinanw-2020-03-24T16:38:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 24 March 2020‎ (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ahc84" title="User:Ahc84">Ahc84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahc84" title="User talk:Ahc84">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ahc84-2020-08-26T17:38:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:BeatrixBelibaste" title="User:BeatrixBelibaste">User:BeatrixBelibaste</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Valeriummaximum" title="User:Valeriummaximum">Valeriummaximum</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Bitofdust" title="User:Bitofdust">Bitofdust</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bitofdust" title="User talk:Bitofdust">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Bitofdust-2021-03-26T22:52:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mathieu_Kappler" title="User:Mathieu Kappler">Mathieu Kappler</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Zblace" title="User:Zblace">Zblace</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zblace" title="User talk:Zblace">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zblace-2021-12-24T07:22:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2022-05-17T13:16:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ham_II" title="User:Ham II">Ham II</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ham_II" title="User talk:Ham II">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Ham_II-20240125083000-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:DaxServer" title="User:DaxServer">DaxServer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaxServer" title="User talk:DaxServer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-DaxServer-20240524160000-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ebakogianni" title="User:Ebakogianni">User:Ebakogianni</a> :Bold <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.122.184.227" title="Special:Contributions/62.122.184.227">62.122.184.227</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-62.122.184.227-20241007110400-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a></div><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts/Participants">participants of WikiProject Visual arts</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-11-21T07:08:00.000Z-Curator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Good idea! <a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jane023-2014-11-21T08:51:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-11-21T07:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Yes, I would use this quite often when describing exhibitions. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinster" title="User:Spinster">Spinster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinster" title="User talk:Spinster">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Spinster-2014-11-21T10:52:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-11-21T07:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-11-21T12:36:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-11-21T07:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2014-11-30T13:47:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-11-21T07:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 30 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="port" data-mw-thread-id="h-port-2014-09-29T18:45:00.000Z">port</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1641" title="Property:P1641">port</a> (P1641) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1641" title="Property talk:P1641">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>number of communication endpoint in TCP or UDP protocol</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Port</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q132364" title="Q132364">communication protocol (Q132364)</a> (communication protocol)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>0 <= port <= 65535</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q160453" title="Q160453">Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (Q160453)</a> → 25</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers" class="extiw" title="en:List of TCP and UDP port numbers">en:List of TCP and UDP port numbers</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:DrSauron" title="User:DrSauron">DrSauron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrSauron" title="User talk:DrSauron">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Most protocols at the application level of ISO/OSI model have internet socket port assigned to it by IANA (official) on non-official port used by convention. <a href="/wiki/User:DrSauron" title="User:DrSauron">DrSauron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrSauron" title="User talk:DrSauron">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-DrSauron-2014-09-29T18:45:00.000Z-port" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</a> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Opensofias" title="User:Opensofias">Opensofias</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Arthur_Rubin" title="User:Arthur Rubin">Arthur Rubin</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cuvwb" title="User:Cuvwb">Cuvwb</a> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Physikerwelt" title="User:Physikerwelt">Physikerwelt</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Lymantria" title="User:Lymantria">Lymantria</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Bigbossfarin" title="User:Bigbossfarin">Bigbossfarin</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">Infovarius</a> <a href="/wiki/User:He7d3r" title="User:He7d3r">Helder</a> <a href="/wiki/User:PhilMINT" title="User:PhilMINT">PhilMINT</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Malore" title="User:Malore">Malore</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Lore.mazza51" title="User:Lore.mazza51">Lore.mazza51</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Wikisaurus" title="User:Wikisaurus">Wikisaurus</a> <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a> <a href="/wiki/User:The-erinaceous-one" title="User:The-erinaceous-one">The-erinaceous-one</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Haansn08" title="User:Haansn08">Haansn08</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Xenmorpha" title="User:Xenmorpha">Xenmorpha</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jsamwrites" title="User:Jsamwrites">John Samuel</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jeremydover" title="User:Jeremydover">Jeremy Dover</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Toni_001" title="User:Toni 001">Toni 001</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Bocardodarapti" title="User:Bocardodarapti">Bocardodarapti</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Duckmather" title="User:Duckmather">Duckmather</a> <a href="/wiki/User:HTinC23" title="User:HTinC23">HTinC23</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Fgnievinski" title="User:Fgnievinski">fgnievinski</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pdehaye" title="User:Pdehaye">Paul-Olivier Dehaye</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Uniwah" title="User:Uniwah">uni</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Dexxor" title="User:Dexxor">Dexxor</a> <a href="/wiki/User:%E6%85%88%E5%B1%85" class="mw-redirect" title="User:慈居">慈居</a></div><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Mathematics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Mathematics/Participants">participants of WikiProject Mathematics</a> -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-19T11:04:00.000Z-port" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Looks good to me. -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-19T11:04:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-10-19T11:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/15px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/> <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead. Pinged wrong project before -<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-10-19T11:09:00.000Z-port" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 19 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Sounds like a good proposal. Also added some translations from Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Robin_van_der_Vliet" title="User:Robin van der Vliet">Robin van der Vliet</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robin_van_der_Vliet" title="User talk:Robin van der Vliet">(talk)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Robin_van_der_Vliet" title="Special:Contributions/Robin van der Vliet">(contribs)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Robin_van_der_Vliet-2014-11-04T00:25:00.000Z-port" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 4 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="acquisition_transaction" data-mw-thread-id="h-acquisition_transaction-2014-11-08T04:11:00.000Z">acquisition transaction</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1642" title="Property:P1642">acquisition transaction</a> (P1642) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1642" title="Property talk:P1642">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>how the player was aquired; qualifier for P54 (member of sports team)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18515440" title="Q18515440">sports transaction</a> (Q18515440)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>professional sports players</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>items within the class <a href="/wiki/Q18515440" title="Q18515440">sports transaction (Q18515440)</a> (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Q3246603" title="Q3246603">trade (Q3246603)</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q10558905" title="Q10558905">Kat Williamson (Q10558905)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54">member of sports team (P54)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Q1446672" title="Q1446672">Portland Thorns FC (Q1446672)</a> -- acquisition transaction -- <a href="/wiki/Q3246603" title="Q3246603">trade (Q3246603)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Key information to detail how players are moved, particularly in sports such as baseball where understanding the front office side of the team's activity is important to a full understanding of the team's workings. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-08T04:11:00.000Z-acquisition_transaction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 8 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-08T04:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="departure_transaction" data-mw-thread-id="h-departure_transaction-2014-11-08T04:39:00.000Z">departure transaction</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1643" title="Property:P1643">departure transaction</a> (P1643) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1643" title="Property talk:P1643">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>how the player was released or transferred from the roster; qualifier for P54 (member of sports team)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18515440" title="Q18515440">sports transaction</a> (Q18515440)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>professional sports players</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>items within the class <a href="/wiki/Q18515440" title="Q18515440">sports transaction (Q18515440)</a> (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Q3246603" title="Q3246603">trade (Q3246603)</a> or <a href="/wiki/Q5264402" title="Q5264402">designated for assignment (Q5264402)</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q10558905" title="Q10558905">Kat Williamson (Q10558905)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54">member of sports team (P54)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Q2117747" title="Q2117747">Western New York Flash (Q2117747)</a> -- departure transaction -- <a href="/wiki/Q3246603" title="Q3246603">trade (Q3246603)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Key information to detail how players are moved, particularly in sports such as baseball where understanding the front office side of the team's activity is important to a full understanding of the team's workings. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-08T04:39:00.000Z-departure_transaction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 8 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Joshbaumgartner-2014-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2014-11-08T04:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="mandatory_qualifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-mandatory_qualifier-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z">mandatory qualifier</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P1646&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P1646 (page does not exist)">no label</a> (P1646) (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P1646&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P1646 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><a href="/wiki/Help:Qualifiers" title="Help:Qualifiers">Qualifier(s)</a> that must be associated to <a href="/wiki/Help:Statements/en" title="Help:Statements/en">statements</a> using this property.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-property" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18616576" title="Q18616576">Wikidata property (Q18616576)</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any <a href="/wiki/Q18616576" title="Q18616576">Wikidata property (Q18616576)</a> allowed to be used as qualifier</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P39" title="Property:P39">position held (P39)</a> mandatory qualifiers <a href="/wiki/Property:P642" title="Property:P642">of (P642)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P580" title="Property:P580">start time (P580)</a> (see <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P39" title="Property talk:P39">Property talk:P39</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Can be initially based on <code>{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Constraint:Qualifier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Constraint:Qualifier (page does not exist)">Constraint:Qualifier</a>}}</code></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z-mandatory_qualifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Such a property would be the basis for constraining the use of qualifiers. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z-mandatory_qualifier-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-15T15:45:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-11-15T21:29:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-26T12:30:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-11-26T15:39:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2014-12-12T19:12:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 12 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate"><bdi>Sweet kate</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre"><bdi>Snipre</bdi></a>: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-12-18T12:52:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 18 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="subproperty_of" data-mw-thread-id="h-subproperty_of-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z">subproperty of</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1647" title="Property:P1647">subproperty of</a> (P1647) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1647" title="Property talk:P1647">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>all resources related by this property are also related that property. Implements <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_subpropertyof">rdfs:subPropertyOf</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-property" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18616576" title="Q18616576">Wikidata property (Q18616576)</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Other <a href="/wiki/Q18616576" title="Q18616576">Wikidata property (Q18616576)</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Property:P463" title="Property:P463">member of (P463)</a> subproperty of <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of (P361)</a> (member of is the non-transitive subproperty of part of)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Property:P1448" title="Property:P1448">official name (P1448)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P742" title="Property:P742">pseudonym (P742)</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P743&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P743 (page does not exist)">P743 (P743)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1559" title="Property:P1559">name in native language (P1559)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1477" title="Property:P1477">birth name (P1477)</a> subproperties of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Q%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Q????? (page does not exist)">Name</a></li> <li>Note: it is not valid to declare subproperties of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> (rdf:type), <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of (P279)</a> (rdfs:subClassOf) or any other property mapped to a built-in property of RDF, RDFS or OWL. See discussion.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>No</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Subproperty" title="Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/10">Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Subproperty</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Originally requested by <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">User:Filceolaire</a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Subproperty" title="Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/10">Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Subproperty</a>: "Useful for identifying properties which are semantically the same as other properties e.g. <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P132&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P132 (page does not exist)">P132 (P132)</a>. Also matches rdfs:subPropertyOf." -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z-subproperty_of" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Another example. <a href="/wiki/Property:P1448" title="Property:P1448">official name (P1448)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P742" title="Property:P742">pseudonym (P742)</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P743&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P743 (page does not exist)">P743 (P743)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1559" title="Property:P1559">name in native language (P1559)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P1477" title="Property:P1477">birth name (P1477)</a> are subproperties of Name (here Name is a property we have not created yet). At some stage in the future we should be able to do a search on "Name" including subproperties, as described in rdfs:subPropertyOf, and this will search statements with any of these properties. This will help resolve the disputes between having many specific properties and having fewer general properties. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-13T17:09:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-13T17:49:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 13 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-11-15T21:23:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tpt-2014-11-27T16:59:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><s><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose</s> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Conditional support. (Updated per <a href="#Updated_subproperty_of_proposal">comment</a> below.) I would support this proposal if statements such as "subproperty of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a>" and "subproperty of <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of (P279)</a>" were prohibited, or at least put on hold pending <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/How_to_classify_items:_lots_of_specific_type_properties_or_a_few_generic_ones%3F" title="Wikidata:Requests for comment/How to classify items: lots of specific type properties or a few generic ones?">a revived RFC</a>. Subproperties of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of (P279)</a> are a bad idea for several reasons.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>First, instance of and subclass of have the semantics of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_type">rdf:type</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_subclassof">rdfs:subClassOf</a>, two pieces of built-in vocabulary in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-primer/#What_is_OWL_2.3F">OWL 2 DL</a>. So subproperties of instance of and subclass of are invalid in the reference ontology language of the Semantic Web. They would make Wikidata's ontology undecidable, and decrease our querying capabilities.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>There should be one -- and only one -- obvious way to specify the type of an instance. Having a multitude of domain-specific "type" subproperties would promote an anti-pattern: using <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> as a catch-all property to make any statement under the sun that makes sense when connected with the phrase "is a". This in turn leads to an a impoverished vocabulary where claims like "capital of: Germany" and "mode of birth: vivipary" are replaced by a few bloated properties that make claims like "instance of: federal capital" and "subclass of: viviparous organism". Most Wikidatans who have weighed in on this subject at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#type_of_administrative_territorial_entity_.28P132.29" title="Wikidata:Properties for deletion">Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#type_of_administrative_territorial_entity_.28P132.29</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion&oldid=179182105#type_of_administrative_territorial_entity_.28P132.29">permalink</a>) agree that domain-specific properties of instance of should be avoided.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Having a single "type" property would foster another best practice in Wikidata: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3104413/#S9">asserted monohierarchy</a>. In other words, there should be only one explicit normal or preferred <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> per item. An entity can implicitly satisfy many, many P31 claims (and be part of what is called an "inferred polyhierarchy"), but it is easier to manage and scale ontologies when things each have a single asserted class. We see this already in our fairly successful ontology of people -- instead of saying "instance of: female", "instance of: fashion designer", etc., we say "instance of: human", "sex or gender: female", "occupation: fashion designer". A similar approach can be applied throughout the rest of Wikidata, making our data more normalized and easier for humans to maintain and navigate.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>In summary, subproperty of would be great for many normal properties, but we should not use it in ways that break Semantic Web compatibility and promote ontology anti-patterns. Simply removing the "<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P132&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P132 (page does not exist)">P132 (P132)</a> subproperty of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a>" example from the proposal template and putting such statements on hold pending a revived RFC would switch my vote to "Support". <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-12-06T22:23:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment. <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">Laddo</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a>, I have changed the proposed property's description from "Property that is semantically the same as this one" to a syntactical rearrangement the W3C definition of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_subpropertyof">rdfs:subPropertyOf</a>: "all resources related by this property are also related that property". The former definition was incorrect; "semantically the same" means "the same", but that is clearly not what this property is for.</li></ul> <dl><dd>Also, given the lack of response to my previous comment, I have removed the example "<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P132&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P132 (page does not exist)">P132 (P132)</a> subproperty of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a>" from the template. P132 (type of administrative territorial entity) is slated for deletion, and, as explained in my previous comment, there are fundamental W3C compatibility and design issues with declaring subproperties of P31, i.e. rdf:type. We should use subproperty of in a way that maintains clear, straightforward compatibility with OWL 2 DL, the reference ontology language of the Semantic Web, and also does not encourage ontology engineering anti-patterns. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-12-19T04:45:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw"><bdi>Emw</bdi></a>: Fine with me too; the concept of "resource" is a bit too technical to me, I would prefer something easier to understand like "characteristics". Alternately, please provide a hyperlink to a clear definition of that word in this context. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-12-19T22:18:00.000Z-Emw-2014-12-19T04:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support the new definition. Thanks a lot <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> for your work of "implementation" of RDF standards in Wikidata property system. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tpt-2014-12-19T08:31:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>"all resources related by this property are also related that property" is ungrammatical and makes no sense. Furthermore, the "sub" prefix implies a hierarchical relation which is not apparent in the new definition. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-12-20T12:33:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="see_also" data-mw-thread-id="h-see_also-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z">see also</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1659" title="Property:P1659">related property</a> (P1659) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1659" title="Property talk:P1659">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>used to indicate an item or property that might provide additional information about the subject. Implements <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_seealso">rdfs:seeAlso</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-property" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18616576" title="Q18616576">Wikidata property (Q18616576)</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Other <a href="/wiki/Q18616576" title="Q18616576">Wikidata property (Q18616576)</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property" title="Wikidata:Glossary">Wikidata:Glossary#Property</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P22" title="Property:P22">father (P22)</a> See also <a href="/wiki/Property:P25" title="Property:P25">mother (P25)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P40" title="Property:P40">child (P40)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1038" title="Property:P1038">relative (P1038)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Often stated in field description of <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Property_documentation" title="Template:Property documentation">Property documentation</a>}}</code> on the talk page of each property</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>No</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z-see_also" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Would better document related properties, rather than leaving that to field description of <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Property_documentation" title="Template:Property documentation">Property documentation</a>}}</code> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z-see_also-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-15T15:57:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-11-15T21:37:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 15 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-26T12:30:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose If another property can be used we have a problem : data can be stored in different ways so impossible to query them in an unique way. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2014-12-12T19:16:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 12 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>see <a href="/wiki/Property:P460" title="Property:P460">said to be the same as (P460)</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-12-17T11:53:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment: <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">Laddo</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a>, per comments from Snipre and Oursana and a desire to use properties as defined by Semantic Web standards, I have changed the proposed property's description from "other property that could be used as replacement or complement for this one" to an extremely close paraphrasing of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_seealso">rdfs:seeAlso</a>: "used to indicate an item or property that might provide additional information about the subject". For the sake of interoperability with the rest of the Semantic Web it is essential that we use W3C definitions for properties that overlap with those in the standards. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-12-19T02:57:00.000Z-Laddo-2014-11-12T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw"><bdi>Emw</bdi></a>: <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I love it -- <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo">chat ;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Laddo-2014-12-19T22:23:00.000Z-Emw-2014-12-19T02:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>OK by me. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-12-20T12:36:00.000Z-Emw-2014-12-19T02:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 20 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support also for me it is ok. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Paperoastro-2014-12-21T12:07:00.000Z-Emw-2014-12-19T02:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 21 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="AniDB_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-AniDB_identifier-2014-12-08T17:35:00.000Z">AniDB identifier</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P1688&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P1688 (page does not exist)">no label</a> (P1688) (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P1688&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P1688 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>code number assigned to the subject on <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anidb.net">http://anidb.net</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:Extref-anime" class="extiw" title="uk:Шаблон:Extref-anime">uk:Шаблон:Extref-anime</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:Extref-anime" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Extref-anime">ru:Шаблон:Extref-anime</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:Extref-people" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Extref-people">ru:Шаблон:Extref-people</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:Extref-company" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Extref-company">ru:Шаблон:Extref-company</a> anidbid</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1107" title="Q1107">anime (Q1107)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q5" title="Q5">human (Q5)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q43229" title="Q43229">organization (Q43229)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q95074" title="Q95074">fictional character (Q95074)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td> (anime|creator|character)\/\d+ </td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q858387" title="Q858387">Serial Experiments Lain (Q858387)</a> => anime/99 => <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=99">http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=99</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Q834328" title="Q834328">Gainax (Q834328)</a> => creator/718 => <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718">http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Q6918065" title="Q6918065">Motoko Kusanagi (Q6918065)</a> => character/1582 => <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=1582">http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=1582</a></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>link autogeneration by a gadget</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:4th-otaku" title="User:4th-otaku">4th-otaku</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4th-otaku" title="User talk:4th-otaku">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dt>Discussion</dt> One of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ru:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D0%B1_%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5_%D0%B8_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5#Внешние_ссылки" class="extiw" title="w:ru:Википедия:Статьи об аниме и манге">main anime databases</a> recognized by ru-wiki Anime and manga project; also referred to by Ukrainian Wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/User:4th-otaku" title="User:4th-otaku">4th-otaku</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4th-otaku" title="User talk:4th-otaku">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-4th-otaku-2014-12-08T17:35:00.000Z-AniDB_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 8 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-12-08T18:47:00.000Z-4th-otaku-2014-12-08T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yakiv_Gluck&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yakiv Gluck (page does not exist)">Yakiv Gluck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yakiv_Gluck" title="User talk:Yakiv Gluck">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Yakiv_Gluck-2014-12-17T13:52:00.000Z-4th-otaku-2014-12-08T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/User:4th-otaku" title="User:4th-otaku"><bdi>4th-otaku</bdi></a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yakiv_Gluck&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yakiv Gluck (page does not exist)"><bdi>Yakiv Gluck</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec">Jakob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jakec" title="User talk:Jakec">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jakec-2015-01-01T01:24:00.000Z-4th-otaku-2014-12-08T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 1 January 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier-2014-12-21T14:43:00.000Z">BBC Your Paintings artwork identifier</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1679" title="Property:P1679">Art UK artwork ID</a> (P1679) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1679" title="Property talk:P1679">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>authority control identifier for artworks (publicly owned oil paintings in the UK)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Artworks. Currently oil paintings; may in future be extended to sculptures</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>generic string, usually lowercase, no spaces</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1206860" title="Q1206860">Bacchus and Ariadne (Q1206860)</a> => "<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/bacchus-and-ariadne-114356">bacchus-and-ariadne-114356</a>"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/">http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>It may be possible to automatically match images on Commons against images in the Your Paintings collection -- eg using the new <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://commonsmachinery.se/2014/12/introducing-elog-io/">Elog.io</a> tool for exact copies. A group at the University of Oxford also has impressive tools for non-quite exact matches (eg different images or printings of the same picture), as well as the whole of the Your Paintings image database</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Jheald" title="User:Jheald">Jheald</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jheald" title="User talk:Jheald">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> We're increasingly creating items in large numbers for notable paintings -- eg all the paintings in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam, or the Frans Hals museum in Haarlem. For paintings from GLAMs in the UK, a useful authority control identifier would be the artwork code from the Your Paintings website, an online catalogue to all the publicly owned oil paintings in the UK. We already have properties <a href="/wiki/Property:P1367" title="Property:P1367">Art UK artist ID (P1367)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P1602" title="Property:P1602">Art UK venue ID (P1602)</a> for painters and institutions on this website; it makes sense to have an identifier for the artworks too. As well as showing an image, the YP website sometimes has links to further information on particular works, either on the owning institution's website, or eg the UK <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.vads.ac.uk/collections/NIRP/intro.html">National Inventory of Continental European paintings</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jheald" title="User:Jheald">Jheald</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jheald" title="User talk:Jheald">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jheald-2014-12-21T14:43:00.000Z-BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-12-21T14:46:00.000Z-BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 21 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-12-23T20:58:00.000Z-BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Please see next proposal,--<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-12-24T00:32:00.000Z-BBC_Your_Paintings_artwork_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="DOI_Prefix" data-mw-thread-id="h-DOI_Prefix">DOI Prefix</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1662" title="Property:P1662">DOI prefix</a> (P1662) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1662" title="Property talk:P1662">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Unique identifier specific to a <a href="/wiki/Q25670" title="Q25670">digital object identifier (Q25670)</a> registrant, AKA DOIP; see <a class="external free" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?about">http://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?about</a></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18340367" title="Q18340367">DOI prefix</a> (Q18340367)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><s>number</s> string-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>tbc</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Academic publishers// libraries</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Valid DOIPs</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q905549" title="Q905549">Royal Society of Chemistry (Q905549)</a> => 10.1021</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>"10", followed by one or more instances of ["." followed by a positive integer]</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>DOIs</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Possible</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Alexa_rank" data-mw-thread-id="h-Alexa_rank-2014-10-23T21:53:00.000Z">Alexa rank</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1661" title="Property:P1661">Alexa rank</a> (P1661) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1661" title="Property talk:P1661">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The website's current Alexa ranking</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q230051" title="Q230051">Alexa Internet</a> (Q230051)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>alexa</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Organization</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Positive numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q373" title="Q373">Wikivoyage (Q373)</a> -> 20,477</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.alexa.com/">http://www.alexa.com/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Liuxinyu970226" title="User:Liuxinyu970226">Liuxinyu970226</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liuxinyu970226" title="User talk:Liuxinyu970226">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> There's a number of website infoboxes which need the Alexa fields, as well as other Properties for non free contents, thus I'm nah problem to submit this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Liuxinyu970226" title="User:Liuxinyu970226">Liuxinyu970226</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liuxinyu970226" title="User talk:Liuxinyu970226">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Liuxinyu970226-2014-11-17T02:28:00.000Z-Alexa_rank" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Comment I'm pretty sure Alexa's ranks aren't free data, but if they were, I'd support this. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-17T02:44:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2014-11-17T02:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:44, 17 November 2014 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. Alexa ranks are very widely used in Wikipedia infoboxes already, so presumably the Wikimedia community would not consider the use proposed here to be a copyright issue. This property would be useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-12-09T03:26:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2014-11-17T02:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> See also <a class="external free" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?doip=10.1039">http://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?doip=10.1039</a> (which may also be used as a reverse lookup tool, by modifying the final parameter). <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-23T21:53:00.000Z-Alexa_rank" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I like the idea but don't think it would work as proposed, since DOI prefixes are actually <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.doi.org/doi_handbook/2_Numbering.html#2.2.2">a bit more complicated</a>: the registrant identifier in the case of <a href="/wiki/Q905549" title="Q905549">Royal Society of Chemistry (Q905549)</a> would actually be "1021", not "10.1021". The "10" in front is called the directory, and I think I have seen DOIs with other numbers in front, but I am not sure how to find any right now, or whether these were typos. Furthermore, registrants like <a href="/wiki/Q746413" title="Q746413">Elsevier BV (Q746413)</a> (who keep buying other publishing houses) get to operate an additional registrant identifier each time they buy another registrant. As for filtering, the registrant ID might have more than four digits (not sure here), and subdivisions are allowed. Having said all that, I would find it useful to list - on the Wikidata item for a given DOI registrant - all the DOI prefixes they are currently operating, and to adjust that information upon merger or acquisition, and doing that - as suggested - with the complete prefix rather than the registrant identifier per se would seem more natural to me because that is what people are familiar with. Last but not least, there are <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.doi.org/RA_Coverage.html">multiple DOI registration agencies</a>, and I am not sure to what extent their practices differ with respect to DOI prefixes. --<a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User talk:Daniel Mietchen">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Daniel_Mietchen-2014-10-23T23:56:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-23T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 23 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> Useful points, thank you. The linked documents suggests that "10" is the only directory code in use at present. In the example given above, we could just store "1021", or we could continue as proposed, and also store, say, "11.1021" as a second value for the property, should that ever be used. The Source MetaData WikiProject does not exist. Please correct the name. Anyone else have a view? [Aside: perhaps the WMF could be a DOI registrant, and give DOIs in the form 10.NNNN.Qnnnnn, or, say, 10.NNNN.en:609232908 for <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_King_of_Rome&oldid=609232908">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_King_of_Rome&oldid=609232908</a> ] <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-24T14:18:00.000Z-Alexa_rank" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Seems to me as proposed (entire prefix) is both more familar and resilient (shoud we ever discover directory numbers other than 10) than a registrant code property. Filtering does need to account for subdivisions, an arbitrary number of them IIUC. Edited filter informed by discussion on <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27910/finding-a-doi-in-a-document-or-page">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27910/finding-a-doi-in-a-document-or-page</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Linksvayer" title="User:Mike Linksvayer">Mike Linksvayer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Linksvayer" title="User talk:Mike Linksvayer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Mike_Linksvayer-2014-10-24T20:22:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-24T14:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Thank you. I note that the page to which you link has some regexes, which may be useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-24T20:30:00.000Z-Mike_Linksvayer-2014-10-24T20:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>While the indicator is a number adding and comparing and ranking these numbers doesn't seem to have any meaning so I would suggest the datatype should be string. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-11-01T17:56:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-10-24T14:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Agreed; changed. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-01T19:52:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2014-11-01T17:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Total_valid_votes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Total_valid_votes-2014-12-20T16:03:00.000Z">Total valid votes</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1697" title="Property:P1697">total valid votes</a> (P1697) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1697" title="Property talk:P1697">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Vote count for the elections without invalid votes</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q40231" title="Q40231">public election (Q40231)</a> or <a href="/wiki/Q43109" title="Q43109">referendum (Q43109)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Natural number</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q82241" title="Q82241">2012 South Korean presidential election (Q82241)</a> → 30,594,621</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Data shall be imported from National Election Committee</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Robots can check whether the sum of votes for all candidates equals to this value.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Kwj2772" title="User:Kwj2772">Kwj2772</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwj2772" title="User talk:Kwj2772">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> With this property and <a href="/wiki/Property:P1111" title="Property:P1111">votes received (P1111)</a>, we can get a ratio of votes the each candidate received. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwj2772" title="User:Kwj2772">Kwj2772</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwj2772" title="User talk:Kwj2772">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Kwj2772-2014-12-20T16:03:00.000Z-Total_valid_votes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="well-known_inhabitant" data-mw-thread-id="h-well-known_inhabitant-2015-01-09T01:45:00.000Z">well-known inhabitant</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the most notorious inhabitant of a house</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>élément-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"résidents" on <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le_Infobox_Maison" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle Infobox Maison">fr:Modèle Infobox Maison</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Inverse of <a href="/wiki/Property:P551" title="Property:P551">residence (P551)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3278734" title="Q3278734">Maison Gabrielle-Roy (Q3278734)</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q294999" title="Q294999">Gabrielle Roy (Q294999)</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Following a discussion in <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Projet:Monuments_historiques#(idée_à_la_con_?_:_)_Garde-fous_intégrés_?" class="extiw" title="fr:Discussion Projet:Monuments historiques">fr:Discussion Projet:Monuments historiques#(idée à la con ? : ) Garde-fous intégrés ?</a>. It will be usefull to have a property about the most notorious peoples who lived in a house. This property will be the inverse of <a href="/wiki/Property:P551" title="Property:P551">residence (P551)</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Fralambert-2015-01-09T01:45:00.000Z-well-known_inhabitant" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Finally I realised the property already existed with <a href="/wiki/Property:P466" title="Property:P466">occupant (P466)</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Fralambert-2015-01-09T13:51:00.000Z-Fralambert-2015-01-09T01:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 9 January 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Pinyin_transliteration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pinyin_transliteration-2014-12-16T15:50:00.000Z">Pinyin transliteration</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1721" title="Property:P1721">Hanyu Pinyin transliteration</a> (P1721) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1721" title="Property talk:P1721">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>name bestowed upon a person at adulthood</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q42222" title="Q42222">pinyin</a> (Q42222)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Q5</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li>I put it here as it is needed for most immediately as a qualifier of the properties proposed above.</li> <li>Roman transliteration is not always computable from the Chinese characters alone, so it seems necessary to have one, and pinyin is the most widely used system. Conversion from pinyin to other systems is pretty straighforward, so that transliteration in other systems do not appear to be needed.</li> <li>In the real world, tones are usually ("Mao Zedong" rather than "Máo Zédōng") but as tones can be useful they should be included whenever possible (in the Wikiverse, it appears that when there are no tones it is somehow not considered pinyin). --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2014-12-16T15:50:00.000Z-Pinyin_transliteration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>Can you please give some examples? On the other hand, why is this property limited to names of a person. If this property is usefull, it should be useable for all chinese names and terms, including names of places, work titles ...--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2015-02-03T14:08:00.000Z-Zolo-2014-12-16T15:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88"><bdi>Giftzwerg 88</bdi></a>: I put it here, because it was complementary to the properties proposals above, but yes, it could be used as a qualifier in any monolingual-text statement with lang=zh. I added a pointer at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic">Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2015-02-16T13:19:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2015-02-03T14:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 16 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Strong support if used as a generic property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2015-02-16T13:30:00.000Z-Pinyin_transliteration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 16 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo"><bdi>Zolo</bdi></a>: When I read the article about Pinyin (in Swedish of course) I see that they talk about 3 different kinds of Pinyin. I have earlier opposed transliteration-properties since a transliteration from for example Russian -> Swedish looks different from a Russian -> English-transliteration and also looks different to a Ukrainian -> Swedish-transliteration. I know less of Asian languages than I know about East European, so my Q here is if Pinyin have the same problems? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Innocent_bystander" title="User:Innocent bystander">Innocent bystander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Innocent_bystander" title="User talk:Innocent bystander">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Innocent_bystander-2015-02-16T15:13:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2015-02-16T13:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 16 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Innocent_bystander" title="User:Innocent bystander"><bdi>Innocent bystander</bdi></a>: The name "pinyin" has been used for several Chinese->Roman transliteration systems but what I mean here is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin" class="extiw" title="en:Pinyin">hanyu pinyin</a>. It is officially designed to be used in any language. In some languages, like German, other systems are still commonly, and for Taiwan related topics, things are a bit confuse, but all in all pinyin is now by far the most widely used system.</dd> <dd>Note that it is easy to convert from pinyin to another transliteration system, while it is very complicated to machine-transliterate Chinese characters to an alphabet-based system with 100% reliability.</dd> <dd>Afaik as I know has been used a Chinese-language string can be transliterated to hanyu pinyin in just one way except that: <ul><li>sometimes accents are used to show the tones, and sometimes tones are not indicated (as mentioned above, I think we can solve that by always showing tones)</li> <li>white spaces seem to be sometimes arbitrary (there is no space between Chinese characters), but that does not seem to be a major issue. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2015-02-16T16:13:00.000Z-Innocent_bystander-2015-02-16T15:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 16 February 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Then I <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> stödjer -- <a href="/wiki/User:Innocent_bystander" title="User:Innocent bystander">Innocent bystander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Innocent_bystander" title="User talk:Innocent bystander">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Innocent_bystander-2015-02-16T16:21:00.000Z-Zolo-2015-02-16T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 16 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88"><bdi>Giftzwerg 88</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Innocent_bystander" title="User:Innocent bystander"><bdi>Innocent bystander</bdi></a>:: done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P1721" title="Property:P1721">Hanyu Pinyin transliteration (P1721)</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Zolo-2015-02-18T07:43:00.000Z-Zolo-2015-02-16T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Steam_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Steam_ID-2015-02-19T07:41:00.000Z">Steam ID</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1733" title="Property:P1733">Steam application ID</a> (P1733) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1733" title="Property talk:P1733">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>identification number for Steam</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q337535" title="Q337535">Steam</a> (Q337535)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Video games and applications</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Numbers (positive integers)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q382108" title="Q382108">Team Fortress 2 (Q382108)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://store.steampowered.com/app/440">440</a>; <a href="/wiki/Q17452" title="Q17452">Grand Theft Auto V (Q17452)</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://store.steampowered.com/app/271590">271590</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://store.steampowered.com/app/$1/l</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C">George</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:George.Edward.C">Talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C">Contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C" title="Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C">CentralAuth</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Log/George.Edward.C">Log</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> Discussion Steam has thousands of PC games available, so thus would be a useful resource as a property. Would use formatter URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://store.steampowered.com/app/$1">http://store.steampowered.com/app/$1</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C">George</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:George.Edward.C">Talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C">Contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C" title="Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C">CentralAuth</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Log/George.Edward.C">Log</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-George.Edward.C-2015-02-19T07:41:00.000Z-Steam_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 19 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C"><bdi>George.Edward.C</bdi></a>: Please provide an example. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-19T13:13:00.000Z-George.Edward.C-2015-02-19T07:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 19 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Sure (was on mobile at the time). --<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C">George</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:George.Edward.C">Talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C">Contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C" title="Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C">CentralAuth</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Log/George.Edward.C">Log</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-George.Edward.C-2015-02-19T16:44:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-19T13:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> @<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C"><bdi>George.Edward.C</bdi></a>: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P1733" title="Property:P1733">Steam application ID (P1733)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T21:14:00.000Z-Steam_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="unveiled_date" data-mw-thread-id="h-unveiled_date-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z">unveiled date</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Date of unveiling ceremony</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>artworks, plaques, (others?)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>date, or date-and time</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18586139" title="Q18586139">John F. Kennedy Memorial (Q18586139)</a> => 15 May 1965</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Currently often held as <a href="/wiki/Property:P580" title="Property:P580">start time (P580)</a>, which is ambiguous at best, and often false. Lots of examples in Wikipedia article text. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z-unveiled_date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Filceolaire-2014-12-02T19:32:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-12-09T02:25:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Shouldn't this be the same as the property <a href="/wiki/Property:P577" title="Property:P577">publication date (P577)</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Bensin" title="User:Bensin">Bensin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bensin" title="User talk:Bensin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Bensin-2014-12-09T20:27:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>No. As statue can be erected weeks or months before an official unveiling ceremony is held. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2014-12-09T20:36:00.000Z-Bensin-2014-12-09T20:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose <a href="/wiki/Property:P1656" title="Property:P1656">unveiled by (P1656)</a> is an action and I think we should just use "point in time" as a qualifier for that action. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Tobias1984-2014-12-21T12:29:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 21 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose Use <a href="/wiki/Property:P793" title="Property:P793">significant event (P793)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2014-12-23T12:06:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 23 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose Agree with <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a>. Then use <a href="/wiki/Property:P1656" title="Property:P1656">unveiled by (P1656)</a> as a qualifier of that if applicable. (Since we would not always have info to fill <a href="/wiki/Property:P1656" title="Property:P1656">unveiled by (P1656)</a>, the solution @<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: proposes wouldn't always be doable.) <a href="/wiki/User:Sweet_kate" title="User:Sweet kate">Sweet kate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sweet_kate" title="User talk:Sweet kate">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Sweet_kate-2014-12-23T21:03:00.000Z-Snipre-2014-12-23T12:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose use <a href="/wiki/Property:P793" title="Property:P793">significant event (P793)</a> with qualifiers --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pasleim-2015-01-21T19:31:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>Consensus to not create outweighs consensus to create. Closing as <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/> unsuccessful. --<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C">George</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:George.Edward.C">Talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C">Contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C" title="Special:CentralAuth/George.Edward.C">CentralAuth</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Log/George.Edward.C">Log</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-George.Edward.C-2015-02-15T18:48:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2014-11-30T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="art_identifier_for_artworks_from_Inventario_1890_for_the_Florentine_museums" data-mw-thread-id="h-art_identifier_for_artworks_from_Inventario_1890_for_the_Florentine_museums-2014-12-24T01:01:00.000Z">art identifier for artworks from Inventario 1890 for the Florentine museums</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1726" title="Property:P1726">Florentine musea Inventario 1890 ID</a> (P1726) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1726" title="Property talk:P1726">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>identifier for artworks from the main inventar of the Florentine musea</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Artworks.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>generic string</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q15974334" title="Q15974334">Charity (Q15974334)</a> => "<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/inv1890/scheda.asp?position=1&ninv=2157">Charity by Salviati</a>" 2157</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>(Beispiel: eine siebenstellige Zahl kann mit dem <a href="/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/17" title="Special:AbuseFilter/17">Missbrauchsfilter 17</a> überprüft werden)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/inv1890/">http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/inv1890/</a>; e.g. search soggetto : Cristo or author: Salviati</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Führen Bots oder Helferlein irgendwelche Tätigkeiten mit dieser Eigenschaft aus oder sollten sie solche Tätigkeiten ausführen? (etwa in dem sie andere Eigenschaften auf Konsistenz überprüfen, Daten sammeln etc.)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Motivation see above; see<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Oursana-2014-12-24T01:01:00.000Z-art_identifier_for_artworks_from_Inventario_1890_for_the_Florentine_museums" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-ValterVB-2014-12-24T07:48:00.000Z-Oursana-2014-12-24T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 24 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jura1-2015-02-07T13:24:00.000Z-Oursana-2014-12-24T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jane023-2015-02-18T17:51:00.000Z-Oursana-2014-12-24T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 18 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P1726" title="Property:P1726">Florentine musea Inventario 1890 ID (P1726)</a>. @<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana"><bdi>Oursana</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB"><bdi>ValterVB</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Jura1" title="User:Jura1"><bdi>Jura1</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023"><bdi>Jane023</bdi></a>:. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-26T16:30:00.000Z-art_identifier_for_artworks_from_Inventario_1890_for_the_Florentine_museums" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="beats_per_minute" data-mw-thread-id="h-beats_per_minute-2014-11-01T03:59:00.000Z">beats per minute</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1725" title="Property:P1725">beats per minute</a> (P1725) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1725" title="Property talk:P1725">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>beats per minute of a song, etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>songs</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q15891138" title="Q15891138">Fancy (Q15891138)</a> => 95</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Wikipedia</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> Very useful info on a song, IMO <a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-01T03:59:00.000Z-beats_per_minute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 1 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Emw-2014-11-16T03:41:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-01T03:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, but I would recommend changing the property to "tempo" and use beats per minute as the unit. This means that the datatype would also change to number with units. This way, other methods of measuring the tempo, like measures per minute, can be used as well. —<a href="/wiki/User:Wylve" title="User:Wylve">Wylve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wylve" title="User talk:Wylve">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Wylve-2014-11-30T21:05:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2014-11-01T03:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 30 November 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I support Wylve's modification of the proposal. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bensin" title="User:Bensin">Bensin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bensin" title="User talk:Bensin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Bensin-2014-12-09T20:32:00.000Z-Wylve-2014-11-30T21:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Again this is not a simple number, this is an inverse of time (beats × 1/minute) and therefore not a simple number. It is in general a frequency, the same as beats × 1/second =Hz or any other periodical just as 1/year, 1/month, 1/day 1/decade 1/century.--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2014-12-08T02:32:00.000Z-beats_per_minute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:32, 8 December 2014 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Not sure what you are getting at, Giftzwerg 88? Is BPM too ambiguous? <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Danrok-2015-01-12T01:45:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2014-12-08T02:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I want to remind that this is not a simple number, but a komplex physical unit (frequency), and we don´t have this datatypes until today. So the datatype is wrong and property creators can not create this property.--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Giftzwerg_88-2015-01-12T17:34:00.000Z-Danrok-2015-01-12T01:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 12 January 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P1725" title="Property:P1725">beats per minute (P1725)</a>. @<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><bdi>AmaryllisGardener</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Wylve" title="User:Wylve"><bdi>Wylve</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Bensin" title="User:Bensin"><bdi>Bensin</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88"><bdi>Giftzwerg 88</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok"><bdi>Danrok</bdi></a>:. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-26T16:27:00.000Z-beats_per_minute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Question I thought there is a consensus to hold this property until the quantity with units datatype is available instead of creating it now with the wrong data type? —<a href="/wiki/User:Wylve" title="User:Wylve">Wylve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wylve" title="User talk:Wylve">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Wylve-2015-02-26T18:36:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-26T16:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yeah Wylve. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2015-02-27T17:40:00.000Z-Wylve-2015-02-26T18:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 27 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>That's not my reading of the discussion; but in any case, logic dictates that "beats per minutes" can only be expressed as a number. <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (Pigsonthewing); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-02T12:57:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-02-27T17:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Wylve was wanting "tempo", but I like it as "beats per minute" expressed by a number, that just wasn't what the others wanted. But I'm not going to force you to reverse your decision though. --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener">AmaryllisGardener</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener">talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-AmaryllisGardener-2015-03-02T17:49:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-02T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><bdi>AmaryllisGardener</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>: From my reading of the discussion, three users (<a href="/wiki/User:Bensin" title="User:Bensin">Bensin</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> and I) support using the quantity with units datatype. "Beats per minute" is a unit of tempo, not the physical quantity itself. Using "beats per minute" on music instead of "tempo" would be analogous to using "maximum kilometers per hour" or "maximum miles per hour" for an airplane instead of "maximum speed". Logic dictates that a unit should not be used as a property. Not all music use "beats per minute" as a measurement of tempo and there is no reason why a property should restrict what unit is given in its value(s). —<a href="/wiki/User:Wylve" title="User:Wylve">Wylve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wylve" title="User talk:Wylve">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Wylve-2015-03-02T21:13:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-03-02T17:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="id_Metacritic_film" data-mw-thread-id="h-id_Metacritic_film-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z">id Metacritic film</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1712" title="Property:P1712">Metacritic ID</a> (P1712) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1712" title="Property talk:P1712">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>link to a page for a movie at the Metacritic website</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q150248" title="Q150248">Metacritic</a> (Q150248)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>string-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"ID" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Metacritic_film" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Metacritic film">en:Template:Metacritic film</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>movies</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>add id used in a lot of wiki</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/$1 <ul><li>I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (<a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/$1) <a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-ValterVB-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z-id_Metacritic_film" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>support for one Metacritic property --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Pasleim-2015-01-24T09:19:00.000Z-ValterVB-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>+1 support for one Metacritic property --<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">CENNOXX</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-CennoxX-2015-02-11T12:24:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-01-24T09:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 11 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB"><bdi>ValterVB</bdi></a>: <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support using one property. The formatter URL would work just fine as you suggested, shall I create it now? <a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C">George Edward C</a> – <a href="/wiki/User_talk:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:George.Edward.C">Talk</a> – <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C">Contributions</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-George.Edward.C-2015-02-11T18:51:00.000Z-CennoxX-2015-02-11T12:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 11 February 2015 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C"><bdi>George.Edward.C</bdi></a>: Yes, it's OK for only one property, you can create. --<a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-ValterVB-2015-02-11T19:31:00.000Z-George.Edward.C-2015-02-11T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done - See <a href="/wiki/Property:P1712" title="Property:P1712">Metacritic ID (P1712)</a>. :) <a href="/wiki/User:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User:George.Edward.C">George Edward C</a> – <a href="/wiki/User_talk:George.Edward.C" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:George.Edward.C">Talk</a> – <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C" title="Special:Contributions/George.Edward.C">Contributions</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-George.Edward.C-2015-02-11T19:35:00.000Z-George.Edward.C-2015-02-11T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="id_Metacritic_television" data-mw-thread-id="h-id_Metacritic_television-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z">id Metacritic television</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1712" title="Property:P1712">Metacritic ID</a> (P1712) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1712" title="Property talk:P1712">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>link to a page for a TV movie title at the Metacritic website</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q150248" title="Q150248">Metacritic</a> (Q150248)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>string-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"ID" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Metacritic_television" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Metacritic television">en:Template:Metacritic television</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>TV movies</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>add id used in a lot of wiki</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/tv/$1 <ul><li>I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (<a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/$1) <a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-ValterVB-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z-id_Metacritic_television" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="id_Metacritic_video_game" data-mw-thread-id="h-id_Metacritic_video_game-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z">id Metacritic video game</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1712" title="Property:P1712">Metacritic ID</a> (P1712) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1712" title="Property talk:P1712">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>link to a page for a videogame at the Metacritic website</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q150248" title="Q150248">Metacritic</a> (Q150248)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>string-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"ID" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Metacritic_video_game" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Metacritic video game">en:Template:Metacritic video game</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>videogame</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>add id used in a lot of wiki</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/game/$1 <ul><li>I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (<a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/$1) <a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-ValterVB-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z-id_Metacritic_video_game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="id_Metacritic_album" data-mw-thread-id="h-id_Metacritic_album-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z">id Metacritic album</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1712" title="Property:P1712">Metacritic ID</a> (P1712) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1712" title="Property talk:P1712">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>link to a page for an album at the Metacritic website</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q150248" title="Q150248">Metacritic</a> (Q150248)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>string-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"ID" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Metacritic_album" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Metacritic album">en:Template:Metacritic album</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>album</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>add id used in a lot of wiki</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/music/$1 <ul><li>I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (<a href="/wiki/Property:P1630" title="Property:P1630">formatter URL (P1630)</a>: http://www.metacritic.com/$1) <a href="/wiki/User:ValterVB" title="User:ValterVB">ValterVB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ValterVB" title="User talk:ValterVB">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-ValterVB-2015-01-02T20:44:00.000Z-id_Metacritic_album" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="subtitle" data-mw-thread-id="h-subtitle-2014-12-25T14:17:00.000Z">subtitle</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1680" title="Property:P1680">subtitle</a> (P1680) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1680" title="Property talk:P1680">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>For works, when the title is followed by a subtitle. Replace <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P392&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P392 (page does not exist)">P392 (P392)</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#monolingualtext" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Monolingual text</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>works</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q6027" title="Q6027">Les Rougon-Macquart (Q6027)</a> => Histoire naturelle et sociale d'une famille sous le Second Empire, in French</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> (To replace string property <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P392&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P392 (page does not exist)">Property:P392</a>, as discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2015/Properties/1#P392" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2015/Properties/1">Requests for deletions/Archive/2015/Properties/1#P392</a>) <ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Jakec" title="User:Jakec"><bdi>Jakec</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo"><bdi>Zolo</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Vlsergey" title="User:Vlsergey"><bdi>Vlsergey</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21"><bdi>Kolja21</bdi></a>:</li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Change from string to monolingual datatype. To follow the same guidelines as for title <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Snipre-2014-12-25T14:17:00.000Z-subtitle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Sächsische_Biografie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sächsische_Biografie-2015-01-13T10:41:00.000Z">Sächsische Biografie</h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div> Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P1710" title="Property:P1710">Sächsische Biografie (GND) ID</a> (P1710) (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1710" title="Property talk:P1710">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>biographical dictionary of people from Saxony (they don't have an official English name as far as I know)</td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1228663" title="Q1228663">Sächsische Biografie</a> (Q1228663)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q107164" title="Q107164">Atlas Crusius (Q107164)</a> <a href="/wiki/Property:P39" title="Property:P39">position held (P39)</a> <a href="/wiki/Q30185" title="Q30185">mayor (Q30185)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>source: Sächsische Biografie => 129956341</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://saebi.isgv.de/">http://saebi.isgv.de/</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://saebi.isgv.de/gnd/129956341">http://saebi.isgv.de/gnd/129956341</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>yes</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß">Jonathan Groß</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User talk:Jonathan Groß">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> The Sächsische Biografie could serve as reference for Statements in WD items on persons, e.g. for the religion of <a href="/wiki/Q18759237" title="Q18759237">Q18759237</a>. The SäBi uses GND Numbers for reference to their articles and therefor could easily be added by a bot as a general reference. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß">Jonathan Groß</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User talk:Jonathan Groß">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-01-13T10:41:00.000Z-Sächsische_Biografie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 13 January 2015 (UTC)</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Conny" title="User:Conny">Conny</a> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - is accepted in de:wp via <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:S%C3%A4bi" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Säbi">template</a> and is started as a longterm project. Added some details at <a href="/wiki/Q1228663" title="Q1228663">Sächsische Biografie (Q1228663)</a>. Are there any ideas because of the redundant usage of the GND number? Greetings, <a href="/wiki/User:Conny" title="User:Conny">Conny</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conny" title="User talk:Conny">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Conny-2015-01-20T10:23:00.000Z-Sächsische_Biografie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</a>. <dl><dd>I guess a bot could check the SaeBi database for GND identifiers also used by Wikidata items, and then add to those items the Property:SaeBi with the GND identifier.</dd> <dd>As to the "redundant usage": Are there any ideas about automatically linking all databases which use GND identifiers as a reference? Compare <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/persondata/p/Atlas_Crusius">APPER's tool</a> which does exactly this. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß">Jonathan Groß</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User talk:Jonathan Groß">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-01-20T11:25:00.000Z-Conny-2015-01-20T10:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support This property can be used in about 1400 items about persons, which is worth it, in my opinion. The "redundancy" (some of these statements will reuse the GND number, some are specific to this property) is a good thing for a simple reason: The fact that the "SäBi" identifier repeats the GND identifier needs to be documented. --<a href="/wiki/User:TMg" title="User:TMg">TMg</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27#c-TMg-2015-01-20T11:31:00.000Z-Sächsische_Biografie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</a>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27&oldid=1102554243">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/27&oldid=1102554243</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" 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