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id="toc-A_beer_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_beer_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>A beer for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_beer_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Recent close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gaur_Rajput" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gaur_Rajput"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Gaur Rajput</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Gaur_Rajput-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Journal_infobox" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Journal_infobox"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Journal infobox</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Journal_infobox-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Draft:Rebecca Nengi 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Biography_&_Philosophy_Acknowledgement-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_take_a_look_at_this" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_take_a_look_at_this"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Please take a look at this</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_take_a_look_at_this-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equal Education</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2021"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – March 2021</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2021-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Unprotect_a_deleted_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Unprotect_a_deleted_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Unprotect a deleted page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-thanks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#thanks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>thanks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-thanks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Shura" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shura"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Shura</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Shura-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manuel López (artist)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Deletion review for John Allen (Irish cricketer)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – April 2021</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Candyce Kelshall draft page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Close of Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-openaccess_=_no" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#openaccess_=_no"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>openaccess = no</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-openaccess_=_no-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Executioner" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Executioner"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Executioner</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Executioner-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Northern_Independence_Party" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Northern_Independence_Party"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Northern Independence Party</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Northern_Independence_Party-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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id="toc-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Having trouble with SNG vs GNG interpretation re: NSPORT</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>John Allen (Irish cricketer) - argument strength is really about policy backing John Allen (Irish cricketer)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Article Deletion of Deepak Rawat</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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I had just posted this on AIV. – <a href="/wiki/User:Wallyfromdilbert" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Wallyfromdilbert">wallyfromdilbert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wallyfromdilbert" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Wallyfromdilbert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z-TheActorAndrei" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z-TheActorAndrei"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z","author":"Wallyfromdilbert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z-TheActorAndrei","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z-TheActorAndrei"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z"></span>Ah, I missed that one. Blocked, too. Drop me a note if one of them starts again and I'll indef them. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:13:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:09:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:13:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. – <a href="/wiki/User:Wallyfromdilbert" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Wallyfromdilbert">wallyfromdilbert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wallyfromdilbert" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Wallyfromdilbert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Wallyfromdilbert-2020-12-10T13:13:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-10T13:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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I recall that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Charlie_Williams_(promoter)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Williams (promoter)">the founder's bio was moved to that title</a>, and something presumably was done with it after that, even if it ended up being CoI-infested. I can probably dig something out of it to work on. I think the company is notable and it'll just be a matter of source research (they're probably the leading <a href="/wiki/Cue_sports" title="Cue sports">cue sports</a> event organizer in the world, for both snooker and pool pro tournaments). It would also be helpful to be able to examine the editing history; if someone had being doing CoI stuff at that page they might also have been doing it at articles on DP-organized events. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> 😼 </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T02:45:00.000Z-WP:REFUND" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T02:45:00.000Z-WP:REFUND"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-14T02:45:00.000Z","author":"SMcCandlish","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T02:45:00.000Z-WP:REFUND","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T02:45:00.000Z-WP:REFUND"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z-WP:REFUND"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> My first reaction was: "just do it yourself", but to my surprise I see you're not an admin. I've seen you around and was convinced you're a sysop. Perhaps time for a run? Cheers! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z-WP:REFUND" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:39, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z-WP:REFUND"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z-WP:REFUND","replies":["c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z","c-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z-WP:REFUND"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. As for adminship, I have avoided it for over a decade on purpose. >;-) <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> 😼 </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z","author":"SMcCandlish","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"></span>Oh wow, that really is just a bio for <a href="/wiki/Charlie_Williams_(pool_player)" title="Charlie Williams (pool player)">Charlie Williams (pool player)</a> which has since been created. Dragon Promotions are certainly notable, just a case of writing it up cleaner. I can drop some help <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish">SMcCandlish</a>, but I'm in the middle of a house move and I don't have internet yet! Best Wishes, <b><a href="/wiki/User:Lee_Vilenski" title="User:Lee Vilenski"><span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lee_Vilenski" title="User talk:Lee Vilenski">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lee_Vilenski" title="Special:Contributions/Lee Vilenski">contribs</a>)</sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z","author":"Lee Vilenski","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-14T09:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z"></span>Will take that up at my talk page. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> 😼 </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z","author":"SMcCandlish","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-2020-12-14T10:18:00.000Z-Lee_Vilenski-2020-12-14T10:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IANI" data-mw-thread-id="h-IANI"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IANI"></span>IANI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IANI"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-IANI","replies":[],"uneditableSection":true}}--></div> <p>Hey, We could really use your help. Thanks! <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2facediani&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2facediani (page does not exist)">2facediani</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2facediani#top" title="User talk:2facediani">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2facediani" title="Special:Contributions/2facediani">contribs</a>) </span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal","c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Canadian Medical Education Journal","linkableTitle":"Canadian Medical Education Journal"}--><h2 id="Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"></span>Canadian Medical Education Journal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal","c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__12__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal","c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Canadian Medical Education Journal","linkableTitle":"Canadian Medical Education Journal"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"></span>I am looking for feedback/advice regarding the recently rejected submission <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal</a> I've read and reread the criteria for notability, and I would love some examples of how this submission could meet that criteria. If not now, then down the line. I don't want the article deleted, so I would like to figure out the right source before I waste anyone's time. I was looking at various other academic journals, and CMEJ seems to fit the same criteria. Any insights would be great! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hickeygamez" title="User talk:Hickeygamez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","author":"Hickeygamez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure what to say. You have been pointed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>, which for academic journals usually is very difficult to satisfy, and to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NJournals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NJournals">WP:NJournals</a>, which is easier to satisfy. However, in the present case, there is no sign whatsoever that this journal comes even close to meeting GNG. You shouldn't look too much at other articles (unless they're really good). There are over 6 million articles on WP and the number of people patrolling them is limited, so it is to be expected that some of them don't meet our inclusion criteria. There's no deadline, sooner or later somebody will come along and either enter sources establishing notability or propose the article for deletion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-16T17:04:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z"></span>Thank-you for your response. I'm disappointed. Mostly because I spent so long researching and editing - but I am sure that's the case for all wikipedia declines. I was looking at other journals only for tips and tricks, not to pit them against my work here. I guess what I can't figure out is how an academic journal would ever qualify since they feature other peoples' work and rarely the other way around. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hickeygamez" title="User talk:Hickeygamez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Hickeygamez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-16T22:34:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z"></span>That's why we have NJournals: it documents the fact that some databases (like <a href="/wiki/Scopus" title="Scopus">Scopus</a>, for example, extensively vet a journal before including it. Therefore, we interpret such an inclusion as an independent relable source documenting that a journal is notable. This way, more than ten thousand journals qualify for inclusion (we still don't have articles on many of them). Databases like DOAJ don't count, because they are not selective enough. DOAJ strives to include any open-access journal that is legit, no matter how otherwise insignificant. In contrast, in order to be included in Scopus or the <a href="/wiki/Science_Citation_Index" class="mw-redirect" title="Science Citation Index">Science Citation Index</a>, a journal has to be shown to have a significant impact on their field. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T15:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z"></span>Thank-you. That is helpful. What about a database like <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/">https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/</a> That database seems to be closer to Scopus than DOAJ. CMEJ is only listed in one line on Erudit, but seems to have a "coming-soon" description: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/cmej/">https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/cmej/</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hickeygamez" title="User talk:Hickeygamez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Hickeygamez","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T15:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z"></span>As the first line on their website says: "Discover the list of scholarly and cultural journals disseminated by Érudit and its partners (NRC Research Press, Persée, Centre for Digital Scholarship)." So they are selective in the sense that they only include journals published by themselves and their partners, but not selective regarding impact/notability, because they include <i>all</i> journals of the mentioned publishers. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-17T16:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z"></span>Are you sure? <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://apropos.erudit.org/en/publishers/erudits-editorial-policy/">https://apropos.erudit.org/en/publishers/erudits-editorial-policy/</a> that policy statement seems like it is more selective. Can you undo the "REJECT" button from the article if I promise not to submit it until it meets your criteria?? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hickeygamez" title="User talk:Hickeygamez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z","author":"Hickeygamez","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-17T17:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I'm sure. Those criteria have nothing to do with the journal being influential/notable. Hence, I see no reason to come back on the "reject". Sorry... --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T01:44:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z"></span>My reason for requesting the undo reject is because I think, given more time, I could prove its notability. I don't want you to just accept it, I'd be happy to go back to the middle "decline" stage.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hickeygamez" title="User talk:Hickeygamez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Hickeygamez","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2020-12-18T07:56:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a>:</span> The criteria for notability in the Wikipedia sense of the word is related to <i>real-world impact/attention</i>, not <i>reliability/legitimacy</i> (which it may well be, I'm no medical professional here, so I'll let other be the judge of that). The two will often be related since nonsense journals are rarely impactful or have any attention given to them, but we do require independent sources to have taken note of the journal in some way, or have some way to attest to the impact. Most often, this will be through indexing in selective databases like SCOPUS or have an impact factor. But it could also be that the journal has been the focus of (independent) press coverage or was recognized for specific achievements by independent organizations (like winning a prize for innovation in a specific area of publishing). <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Headbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal","replies":["c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z-Canadian_Medical_Education_Journal"></span> </p><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Thank-you. I guess I think <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/cmej/">https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/cmej/</a> proves its notability. It is a selective database, though just not as selective as SCOPUS I don't think. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89rudit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89rudit</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hickeygamez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hickeygamez (page does not exist)">Hickeygamez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hickeygamez" title="User talk:Hickeygamez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Hickeygamez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z-Headbomb-2020-12-18T15:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z"></span>It is a publishing platform, not a database and as I explained above, it is not selective in the sense of NJournals. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Hickeygamez-2020-12-18T17:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Avar_Enakke_Sontham-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Avar Enakke Sontham","linkableTitle":"Avar Enakke Sontham"}--><h2 id="Avar_Enakke_Sontham" data-mw-thread-id="h-Avar_Enakke_Sontham-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Avar_Enakke_Sontham-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span>Avar Enakke Sontham<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Avar_Enakke_Sontham-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Avar_Enakke_Sontham-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Avar_Enakke_Sontham-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Avar Enakke Sontham","linkableTitle":"Avar Enakke Sontham"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham"></span>It seems this article has been deleted by you. It is a movie released in 1977 with a notable cast and crew. It is also available for streaming online. Just trying to understand what is needed to restore or create the article (haven't seen the original content) - <a href="/wiki/User:InTeGeR13" title="User:InTeGeR13">InTeGeR13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InTeGeR13" title="User talk:InTeGeR13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","author":"InTeGeR13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham","replies":["c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z-Avar_Enakke_Sontham"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span>Wow, that's an oldie :-) It was deleted uncontroversially under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROD">WP:PROD</a>, so there's no problem in restoring it to your userspace so you can address the problems noted in the PROD and then move it to article space once done. Let me know if you like me to do that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 30 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2020-12-30T17:35:00.000Z-InTeGeR13-2020-12-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fractalfalcon-2021-01-06T19:59:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/70px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="109" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/105px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/140px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="777"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for the help! <a href="/wiki/User:Fractalfalcon" title="User:Fractalfalcon">Fractalfalcon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fractalfalcon" title="User talk:Fractalfalcon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Fractalfalcon-2021-01-06T19:59:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fractalfalcon-2021-01-06T19:59:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-06T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Fractalfalcon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fractalfalcon-2021-01-06T19:59:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fractalfalcon-2021-01-06T19:59:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Recent close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)","linkableTitle":"Recent close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)"}--><h2 id="Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"><span id="Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FOzan_Boz_.282nd_nomination.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Recent close of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Recent close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)","linkableTitle":"Recent close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Ozan Boz (2nd nomination)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>, </p><p>Admin Drmies had reverted the redirection (on Jan 10) and was not going to touch it for a week (until Jan 17). I am wondering why you rushed into a decision? Votes look even, and I wanted to keep working on the article until Jan 17th. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Neckhumbucker" title="User:Neckhumbucker">Neckhumbucker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neckhumbucker" title="User talk:Neckhumbucker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Neckhumbucker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z-Recent_close_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ozan_Boz_(2nd_nomination)"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"></span>The debate was listed as ready to close and I don't see anything that would justify another close. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Reply : First delete was an overzealous deletion. I have been providing info to rebut that overzealous deletion, but admins don't seem to be going through the info provided. Criteria for MUSICBIO is met, and votes are even. You have a responsibility to be more thorough than this.<a href="/wiki/User:Neckhumbucker" title="User:Neckhumbucker">Neckhumbucker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neckhumbucker" title="User talk:Neckhumbucker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Neckhumbucker","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z"></span>Two admins have now come to the same conclusion. Feel free to take this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>. Discussion here closed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z"></span>If the article wasn't changed between the decisions, you might've been right. But thanks for confirming lack of logic.<a href="/wiki/User:Neckhumbucker" title="User:Neckhumbucker">Neckhumbucker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neckhumbucker" title="User talk:Neckhumbucker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Neckhumbucker","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T19:59:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-01-14T17:56:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Randykitty</a>, we're well into trolling territory with this one here--but they also had to go and create a few more accounts, so now they're indef-blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-2021-01-15T17:55:00.000Z-Neckhumbucker-2021-01-14T17:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Gaur_Rajput-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Gaur Rajput","linkableTitle":"Gaur Rajput"}--><h2 id="Gaur_Rajput" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gaur_Rajput-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gaur_Rajput-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"></span>Gaur Rajput<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gaur_Rajput-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Gaur_Rajput-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Gaur_Rajput-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Gaur Rajput","linkableTitle":"Gaur Rajput"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Randykitty/Randykitty&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Randykitty/Randykitty (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput"></span>User:Randykitty/Randykitty</a>,Can you tell me,why you deleted "'Gaur Rajput"' page. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ScPolice&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScPolice (page does not exist)">ScPolice</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScPolice" title="User talk:ScPolice">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","author":"ScPolice","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Gaur_Rajput"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ScPolice&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScPolice (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"></span>ScPolice</a>, because I closed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gaur_Rajput" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaur Rajput">the deletion debate</a> as "delete". --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 16 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-01-16T20:41:00.000Z-ScPolice-2021-01-16T17:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Journal_infobox-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox","c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Journal infobox","linkableTitle":"Journal infobox"}--><h2 id="Journal_infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journal_infobox-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journal_infobox-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Journal infobox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journal_infobox-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Journal_infobox-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox","c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox","timestamp":"2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Journal_infobox-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox","c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Journal infobox","linkableTitle":"Journal infobox"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"></span>Hi Randykitty. I see you have made a number of edits to the <a href="/wiki/Nature_(journal)" title="Nature (journal)">Nature (journal)</a> infobox, so I trust that you know much more than me about the subject. I was doing a few minor edits at <a href="/wiki/The_Lancet" title="The Lancet">The Lancet</a> when I noticed that there is no mention of location (head office or otherwise). By comparison, at Nature (journal) it says "(subsidiary of Springer Nature) <i><b>(United Kingdom)</b></i>". Could you let me know what the practice is in terms of identifying where a journal is edited? Thanks for whatever assistance you can provide. <a href="/wiki/User:Rui_Gabriel_Correia" title="User:Rui Gabriel Correia">Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rui_Gabriel_Correia" title="User talk:Rui Gabriel Correia">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","author":"Rui Gabriel Correia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi, if you go through the edit history, you'll see that it wasn't me who added UK to the <i>Nature</i> infobox. I don't think it actually belongs there any more. Yes, when the journal was founded it was British, but by now? It is owned by an English-German conglomerate that in its turn is owned by a German-Swiss multinational and has offices in at least 6 different countries. The same is the case for <i>The Lancet</i>: originally purely English (not even "British", it has ben owned by a Dutch company since 1990, which is owned by a British-Dutch joint venture and has offices all over the world. Publishing nowadays is a very international business and only in the Social Sciences and Humanities do you still find a lot of journals where the use of the "country" field is justified. For scientific and medical journals we only fill in the "country" field if the journal is really obviously connected to just one particular country (for instance, if it is a journal owned and published by a national society. Hope this helps. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-01-20T14:23:00.000Z-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-20T12:33:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"></span>Hi, Randykitty, I was aware that you did not add the infobox, but you edited it, so I thought it would be fair to assume that you would be able to assist, which you indeed did. Yes, your reply does clarify things. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Rui_Gabriel_Correia" title="User:Rui Gabriel Correia">Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rui_Gabriel_Correia" title="User talk:Rui Gabriel Correia">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 21 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z","author":"Rui Gabriel Correia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox","replies":[],"displayName":"Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-2021-01-21T16:36:00.000Z-Journal_infobox"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson","linkableTitle":"Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson"}--><h2 id="Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span>Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson","linkableTitle":"Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"></span>Hello,I noticed that you are a Wikipedia editors. I would like for you to review my draft article 'Draft: Rebecca Nengi Hampson', and tell me of changes to be made if any and also kindly help me accept it and allow for it to officially be posted on Wikipedia if it need not be edited. This Biography article has been in the draft space for over 3 months. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Justice_Faith" title="User:Justice Faith">Justice Faith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justice_Faith#top" title="User talk:Justice Faith">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Justice_Faith" title="Special:Contributions/Justice Faith">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","author":"Justice Faith","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z-Draft:Rebecca_Nengi_Hampson"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, but beauty pageants (i.e. objectifying women) and other such sexist trivia are absolutely not my thing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-02-01T11:30:00.000Z-Justice_Faith-2021-02-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-02-01T19:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Administrators'_newsletter_\u2013_February_2021-2021-02-01T19:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-02-01T19:10:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_\u2013_February_2021"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Administrators' newsletter \u2013 February 2021","linkableTitle":"Administrators' newsletter \u2013 February 2021"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-02-01T19:10:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_February_2021"></span>News and updates for administrators</a> from the past month (January 2021). </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1216972533"><div> <table class="col-begin" role="presentation"> <tbody><tr> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/20px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/30px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/40px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> <b>Administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Hog_Farm" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Hog Farm">Hog Farm</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/997537243#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#January_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/997537243">Mattflaschen</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/997537243#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#January_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/997537243">Nandesuka</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/997537243#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#January_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/997537243">Savidan</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/997537243#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#January_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/997537243">Wangi</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ANEWSicon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/150px-ANEWSicon.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="151" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/225px-ANEWSicon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/300px-ANEWSicon.png 2x" data-file-width="596" data-file-height="600"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Checkuser_Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/20px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/30px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/40px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/999114581#changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/999114581">Berean Hunter</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PermaLink/20997879#Xeno@enwiki" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:PermaLink/20997879">Xeno</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Oversight_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/20px-Oversight_logo.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/30px-Oversight_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/40px-Oversight_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="1058" data-file-height="1058"/></a></span> <b>Oversight changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/999114581#changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/999114581">Someguy1221</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PermaLink/20997879#Xeno@enwiki" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:PermaLink/20997879">Xeno</a></dd></dl> <p> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AC/DS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AC/DS">standard discretionary sanctions</a> authorized for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American_politics_2" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2">American Politics</a> were <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1001485112#Motion:_American_politics_2_(1992_cutoff)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1001485112">amended by motion</a> to cover <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">post-1992 politics of United States and closely related people</q>, replacing the 1932 cutoff.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" 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Thank you. The journey that led to discovering you is from the Tongva wikipedia site. I had considered reading and possibly editing, but discovering what I was reading at the Tongva site, instead I became interested in the history of the Tongva site, so I checked in at "View History" and then I went to earliest creation, way back, circa 2004?, linked to you, so I opened up your Talk page, discovering the nice and intelligent explanation of your philosophy on communication, proper encyclopedia narrative, such as not using "famous" with a good example of Albert Einsteine. </p><p>And so thank you again, for enlightening me, something of a renaissance, and epiphany for me, as I had already not liking the use of the word "famous" but reading your writing solidified my philosophy. </p><p>On and on ... jus sayin ... more later, possibly .... Peace, 'Roy' Robert Jan van de Hoek Los Angeles County, California PS - oh my, I had a hiatus of a few months from editing until this one and an earlier one this morning, so I nearly forgot the request for us to us "~" four times, and so not quite sure, if needed here, but going to err with caution that it is needed.<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek" title="User:Robert Jan van de Hoek">Robert Jan van de Hoek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek" title="User talk:Robert Jan van de Hoek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z-Biography_&_Philosophy_Acknowledgement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z-Biography_&_Philosophy_Acknowledgement"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z","author":"Robert Jan van de Hoek","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z-Biography_&_Philosophy_Acknowledgement","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z-Biography_&_Philosophy_Acknowledgement"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your kind words, glad you liked my userpage :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:51:00.000Z-Robert_Jan_van_de_Hoek-2021-02-21T17:35:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_take_a_look_at_this-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Please take a look at this","linkableTitle":"Please take a look at this"}--><h2 id="Please_take_a_look_at_this" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_take_a_look_at_this-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_take_a_look_at_this-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"></span>Please take a look at this<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_take_a_look_at_this-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_take_a_look_at_this-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_take_a_look_at_this-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Please take a look at this","linkableTitle":"Please take a look at this"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this"></span>Could you please take a look at the recent history of the <a href="/wiki/Linda_Gottfredson" title="Linda Gottfredson">Linda Gottfredson</a> article? The recent edits to that article seem to go against the consensus we reached in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Linda_Gottfredson#Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence">this discussion</a>. </p><p>I don't want to get involved in that article again, but if the same person who tried to add this material before is going to make another attempt at it, the other people who were involved in the past discussion about this material ought to be notified. For now I'm just notifying you, but it might be a good idea to also notify the other two editors who were involved in the earlier discussion who are still active (DGG and Atsme). </p><p>Perhaps you already knew this, but that particular article seems to be a magnet for BLP violations. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/">This article</a> described a case of hoax material in the same article that stayed there for about two years, and eventually was repeated in a book. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895">2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895" title="User talk:2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 8 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","author":"2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this","replies":["c-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z-Please_take_a_look_at_this"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"></span>Belatedly, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B100:0:0:0:0:0/40" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B100:0:0:0:0:0/40">Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B100:0:0:0:0:0/40</a> was indefinitely banned from all topics related to race and intelligence, broadly construed. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1049#Race_and_intelligence_block_and_ban_issue" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1049">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1049#Race and intelligence block and ban issue</a> explains this. Randykitty, I know you like to give academic sources the benefit of the doubt, but you were canvassed by a banned editor into participating in that discussion because they knew you would be sympathetic. This is not even close to the first time this editor has done this. Consider the possibility that your commitment to NPOV is being manipulated and taken advantage of. <a href="/wiki/User:Grayfell" title="User:Grayfell">Grayfell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grayfell" title="User talk:Grayfell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z","author":"Grayfell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z-2600:1004:B150:36C4:64D5:D32A:E475:F895-2021-02-08T01:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z"></span>I don't care whether someone canvasses me or not, as I will form my own opinion independently. In the present case, an old discussion was revived and it is quite normal to inform previous participants of that fact. My opinion on the issue at hand has not changed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-02-21T18:57:00.000Z-Grayfell-2021-02-21T00:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Equal Education","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Equal Education"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FEqual_Education"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equal Education">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equal Education</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Equal Education","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Equal Education"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education"></span>Hi Randykitty. At <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equal Education">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equal Education</a>, I wrote, "<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Education&oldid=378533564">The initial 13:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC) version of the article</a> is not promotional and can be reverted to if the current version of the article is deemed to be too promotional." I plan to revert to the 2010 version of the article, add some of the sources mentioned by Walter Görlitz, and restore the article to mainspace. Would that be supported by your AfD close? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cunard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cunard (page does not exist)">Cunard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cunard" title="User talk:Cunard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Cunard","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Equal_Education","replies":["c-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Equal_Education"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"></span>I restored the article to mainspace after <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Education&diff=1009317086&oldid=1009312651">shortening the article to remove promotional and unsourced material and after adding two sources</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cunard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cunard (page does not exist)">Cunard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cunard" title="User talk:Cunard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Cunard","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T22:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z"></span>The sources that are currently in it still aren't up to the standards of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NORG">WP:NORG</a>. Is there a reason you couldn't have just waited to put it back into main space until they actually were? What was the rush? It's not any less promotional now either. Really it should have been sent through AfC before the AfD was reverted. --<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z","author":"Adamant1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z-Cunard-2021-02-27T23:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z"></span>Any editor in good standing can move an article from draft to main space. That said, I agree with Adamant1 that it would have been preferable to go through AfC, to avoid the impression of wanting to circumvent the AfD. I am agnostic about the quality of the sources, but given the history, I don't think that there is any problem with taking this to AfD again. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-02-28T10:55:00.000Z-Adamant1-2021-02-28T02:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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The full proposal is at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_mover/delete-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect">Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect</a>.</li> <li>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:General_sanctions/Coronavirus_disease_2019#RfC_on_use_of_COVID-19_editnotice" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019">request for comment</a> asks if sysops may <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions</q>?</li> <li>There is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Pending-changes_protection_of_Today's_featured_article" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">discussion in progress</a> concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PC">Pending Changes</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PCPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PCPP">protection</a>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octicons-tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/20px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/40px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></a></span> <b>Technical news</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>When blocking an IPv6 address with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TW">Twinkle</a>, there is now a checkbox with the option to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:/64" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:/64">just block the /64</a> range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.</li> <li>When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RfPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RfPP">WP:RfPP</a>, and even link to the specific revision.</li> <li>There have been <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1009602172#Pending_Changes_again" title="Special:PermanentLink/1009602172">a number</a> of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_187#Unable_to_set_Pending_Changes" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 187">reported issues</a> with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PC">Pending Changes</a>. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273317" class="extiw" title="phab:T273317">phab:T273317</a>) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275322" class="extiw" title="phab:T275322">phab:T275322</a>).</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>By <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1008369085#Motion:_Remedy_transfer_to_Gender_and_sexuality_shell_case" title="Special:PermanentLink/1008369085">motion</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Discretionary_sanctions" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures">discretionary sanctions</a> originally authorized under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate">GamerGate case</a> are <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1008383822#Gender_and_sexuality_standard_discretionary_sanctions_authorized" title="Special:PermanentLink/1008383822">now authorized</a> under a new <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender_and_sexuality" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender and sexuality">Gender and sexuality case</a>, with sanctions <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people.</q> Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds_and_Kurdistan" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds and Kurdistan">Kurds and Kurdistan</a> case was <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1008479504#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds_and_Kurdistan_closed" title="Special:PermanentLink/1008479504">closed</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds_and_Kurdistan#Standard_discretionary_sanctions" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kurds and Kurdistan">authorizing</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Discretionary_sanctions" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures">standard discretionary sanctions</a> for <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed</q>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/20px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/30px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/40px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <b>Miscellaneous</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>Following the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2021" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2021">2021 Steward Elections</a>, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2021/Statements/AmandaNP" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2021/Statements/AmandaNP">AmandaNP</a>, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2021/Statements/Operator873" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2021/Statements/Operator873">Operator873</a>, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2021/Statements/Stanglavine" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2021/Statements/Stanglavine">Stanglavine</a>, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2021/Statements/Teles" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2021/Statements/Teles">Teles</a>, and <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2021/Statements/Wiki13" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2021/Statements/Wiki13">Wiki13</a>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-03-01T19:14:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2021" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-03-01T19:14:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2021"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-03-01T19:14:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2021"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-01T19:14:00.000Z","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-03-01T19:14:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_\u2013_March_2021","replies":[]}}--></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Unprotect a deleted page","linkableTitle":"Unprotect a deleted page"}--><h2 id="Unprotect_a_deleted_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"></span>Unprotect a deleted page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unprotect_a_deleted_page-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Unprotect a deleted page","linkableTitle":"Unprotect a deleted page"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page"></span>Hello,I had created a page named Manan Shah (Buisness).It didn't know that the page Manan Shah and Manan Shah (Buisness) is same.An admin informed me that both are the same person.So the admin deleted the page Manan Shah (buisness). Now I want to create the article but the article was salted by you.Can you please unprotect the article so that i can edit.Thank You. <a href="/wiki/User:Bapinghosh" title="User:Bapinghosh">Bapinghosh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bapinghosh" title="User talk:Bapinghosh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","author":"Bapinghosh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z-Unprotect_a_deleted_page"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"></span>As far as I understand your message, you'd like to create an article about a person named "Manan Shah". The previous articles have a checkered history and were deleted/recreated multiple times. The best thing to do is to use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFC">articles for creation</a> process, create an article in draft space (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Manan_Shah&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Manan Shah (page does not exist)">Draft:Manan Shah</a>), and when you're done have it reviewed. If accepted, the protection can be removed easily. Be careful not to make the draft too promotionaland not to copy text from elsewhere, as previous versions have repeatedly been deleted as spam and/or violations of copyright. Hope this helps. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-02T12:48:00.000Z-Bapinghosh-2021-03-02T12:28:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-thanks-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"thanks","linkableTitle":"thanks"}--><h2 id="thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-thanks-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-thanks-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z"></span>thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-thanks-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-thanks-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks","timestamp":"2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-thanks-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"thanks","linkableTitle":"thanks"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks"></span>Martin Mares--I should have removedit sooner. <b><a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG"> DGG</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG"> talk </a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z","author":"DGG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DGG-2021-03-18T08:56:00.000Z-thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Shura-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Shura","linkableTitle":"Shura"}--><h2 id="Shura" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shura-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shura-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"></span>Shura<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shura-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Shura-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Shura-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Shura","linkableTitle":"Shura"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura"></span>You have moved the article without any discussion but it does not need any discussion, though. If you have read the article it is not a newspaper, but a magazine as indicated by all the sources. So I will revert your move. --<a href="/wiki/User:Egeymi" title="User:Egeymi">Egeymi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Egeymi" title="User talk:Egeymi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","author":"Egeymi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z-Shura"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Egeymi" title="User:Egeymi"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"></span>Egeymi</a>, that's fine, but if it's a magazine, then the dab should be "magazine"... Please move again :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T11:56:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"></span>Okay :)) --<a href="/wiki/User:Egeymi" title="User:Egeymi">Egeymi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Egeymi" title="User talk:Egeymi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z","author":"Egeymi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T11:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T12:30:00.000Z-Egeymi-2021-03-21T12:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Manuel L\u00f3pez (artist)","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Manuel L\u00f3pez (artist)"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FManuel_L.C3.B3pez_.28artist.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_L%C3%B3pez_(artist)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manuel López (artist)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manuel López (artist)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Manuel L\u00f3pez (artist)","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Manuel L\u00f3pez (artist)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)"></span>Hello Randykitty, there was discussion on the AfD for Manuel López (artist) regarding Draftifying/Userfying the article. It was created by a student editor and nominated for deletion 35 minutes later, then closed as delete following the usual discussion and !voting. Would you be willing to draftify it instead of full deletion? </p><p>I have no connection whatsoever with the artist, the student, the student's teacher nor the institution where the Wiki-Edu project was initiated. However, seeing value in the student's efforts and the fact their semester is not over, I offered to incubate the article (in it's improved state when it was deleted) as a draft in my sandbox, or to have the (improved) article sent to the student creator's sandbox for development. </p><p>Having never made a request like this, I'm not sure this is the correct way to request this change, or if there is a more formal process to request drafitication. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Netherzone" title="User:Netherzone">Netherzone</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Netherzone" title="User talk:Netherzone">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Netherzone","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Manuel_L\u00f3pez_(artist)","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manuel_López_(artist)"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"></span>I have moved the article to <a href="/wiki/Draft:Manuel_L%C3%B3pez_(artist)" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Manuel López (artist)">Draft:Manuel López (artist)</a>. It should not be moved into article space without substantial improvement, lest it gets deleted again as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G4" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">WP:CSD#G4</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z-Netherzone-2021-03-27T18:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Netherzone" title="User:Netherzone">Netherzone</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Netherzone" title="User talk:Netherzone">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z","author":"Netherzone","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Netherzone-2021-03-27T23:18:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-27T22:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Deletion review for John Allen (Irish cricketer)","linkableTitle":"Deletion review for John Allen (Irish cricketer)"}--><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"><span id="Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_.28Irish_cricketer.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" class="mw-redirect" title="John Allen (Irish cricketer)">John Allen (Irish cricketer)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Deletion review for John Allen (Irish cricketer)","linkableTitle":"Deletion review for John Allen (Irish cricketer)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"></span>An editor has asked for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a> of <a href="/wiki/John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" class="mw-redirect" title="John Allen (Irish cricketer)">John Allen (Irish cricketer)</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/User:AssociateAffiliate" title="User:AssociateAffiliate">StickyWicket</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AssociateAffiliate" title="User talk:AssociateAffiliate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 27 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","author":"AssociateAffiliate","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"StickyWicket"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:AssociateAffiliate" title="User:AssociateAffiliate"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"></span>AssociateAffiliate</a>, thanks for the notification. Given that apparently you decided to skip the customary discussion of the close before going to DRV (where my closing statement was weirdly and tendentiously truncated), I assume that you're not interested in any clarification from my part, so I'll refrain from participating in that review. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 28 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-27T20:21:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Literally had no idea this was even a thing! <a href="/wiki/User:AssociateAffiliate" title="User:AssociateAffiliate">StickyWicket</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AssociateAffiliate" title="User talk:AssociateAffiliate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 28 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z","author":"AssociateAffiliate","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"StickyWicket"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssociateAffiliate-2021-03-28T16:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-28T10:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"A barnstar for you!","linkableTitle":"A barnstar for you!"}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"A barnstar for you!","linkableTitle":"A barnstar for you!"}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Peace_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diplomacy</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;"><a href="/wiki/John_Ely_(surgeon)" title="John Ely (surgeon)">John Ely (surgeon)</a>. You were right to keep it. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! Wow, that article looks quite differently now! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2021-03-28T17:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading 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delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-04-01T22:20:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-04-01T22:20:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-04-01T22:20:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-01T22:20:00.000Z","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-04-01T22:20:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_\u2013_April_2021","replies":[]}}--></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:49:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021"></span>I want to retrieve my deleted material to keep improving it as it is not promotional or spam <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:JMH2021" title="User:JMH2021">JMH2021</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMH2021#top" title="User talk:JMH2021">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JMH2021" title="Special:Contributions/JMH2021">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:49:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 2 April 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:49:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-02T04:49:00.000Z","author":"JMH2021","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:49:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_\u2013_April_2021","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:49:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2021"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Candyce Kelshall draft page","linkableTitle":"Candyce Kelshall draft page"}--><h2 id="Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"></span>Candyce Kelshall draft page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Candyce Kelshall draft page","linkableTitle":"Candyce Kelshall draft page"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"></span>Hello Randykitty, please help me to recover my deleted material so I can improv it and resubmit it. It is not spam or promotional, it is part of the Women in red project with King's College London, to visibilize women scholars. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:JMH2021" title="User:JMH2021">JMH2021</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMH2021" title="User talk:JMH2021">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:51, 2 April 2021 (UTC)</a> JMH2021<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","author":"JMH2021","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z-Candyce_Kelshall_draft_page"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"></span>Well, two different admins thought it was too promotional. In any case, the person to contact in this matter is the deleting admin, not the editor tagging the draft for deletion. If they agree to restore the draft, that's fine with me, but most admins are hesitant to restore something deleted for being promotional. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:50, 2 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-02T05:50:00.000Z-JMH2021-2021-04-02T04:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Close of Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)","linkableTitle":"Close of Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)"}--><h2 id="Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"><span id="Close_of_Commissioner_Service_.28Boy_Scouts_of_America.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"></span>Close of <a href="/wiki/Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)" class="mw-redirect" title="Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)">Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Close of Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)","linkableTitle":"Close of Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"></span>IMO based both on strength of arguments given and also by simple count the discussion was about 1/3 "delete" 1/3 "merge" and 1/3 "keep. Arguable, but certainly no consensus to delete. You closed as "delete" and deleted all of the material and references. Also, my understanding is that the closing is to be based on the discussion, but instead the basis you gave was your own interpretation of what should happen with respect to the guidelines. IMO it should clearly have been closed as "no consensus" Sincerely, <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","author":"North8000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z-Close_of_Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"></span>I spend quite a while evaluating the different !votes. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTAVOTE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTAVOTE">WP:NOTAVOTE</a>. I stand with my closure. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-07T20:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z"></span>I concur with <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:North8000" title="User:North8000">North8000</a>:</span>. The stated reason for the nomination was the lack of secondary sources. That issue was resolved. --<a href="/wiki/User:Evrik" title="User:Evrik">evrik</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evrik" title="User talk:Evrik">talk</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T20:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-openaccess_=_no-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"openaccess = no","linkableTitle":"openaccess = no"}--><h2 id="openaccess_=_no" data-mw-thread-id="h-openaccess_=_no-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"><span id="openaccess_.3D_no"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-openaccess_=_no-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"></span>openaccess = no<span data-mw-comment-end="h-openaccess_=_no-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-openaccess_=_no-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-openaccess_=_no-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"openaccess = no","linkableTitle":"openaccess = no"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no"></span>Hi, you <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Advances_in_Mathematics&type=revision&diff=1012969485&oldid=1012846192&diffmode=source">reverted</a> a change of mine adding "openaccess = no", saying that one should not indicate the value "no" for this parameter. I was wondering if you could point me to the policy justifying this? Indeed, I don't understand why it would only make sense to indicate "openaccess = yes" (and thus have ambiguity between non-OA journals and journals whose OA status has not been indicated on Wikipedia). Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:A3nm" title="User:A3nm">a3nm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A3nm" title="User talk:A3nm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","author":"A3nm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z-openaccess_=_no"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"></span>Hi, please see the documentation and explanation with the infobox journal template. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-19T20:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I have searched the documentation (which says nothing as far as I can tell) and the talk archives where the only relevant thing is <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_journal/Archive_1#New_fields">this discussion</a> which seems to hint that explicitly indicating non-OA journals would make sense (search for "black" there). So as far as I can tell there is no reason not to indicate "openaccess = no". For this reason I'll undo your revert -- if I missed anything please consider pointing me to the exact place where this is explained, and/or start a discussion on the template if you'd like to gather consensus towards forbidding "openaccess = no" for some reason. Regards --<a href="/wiki/User:A3nm" title="User:A3nm">a3nm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A3nm" title="User talk:A3nm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 21 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z","author":"A3nm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-19T22:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z"></span>The template doc says "|openaccess = Availability of open-access content, with wikilinks if appropriate (put Yes if journal is completely open-access, or <a href="/wiki/Delayed_open_access_journal" class="mw-redirect" title="Delayed open access journal">Delayed</a> or <a href="/wiki/Hybrid_open_access_journal" class="mw-redirect" title="Hybrid open access journal">Hybrid</a> if more appropriate)". This clearly indicates that we indicate here whether something is OA, a possible "no" answer is not indicated. This is now probably the only journal article that has this parameter set to "No"... Soon this will be moot anyway, because OA is gaining ground continuously and many (or even most) journals are nowadays at least Hybrid. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-03-21T16:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Randykitty, to clarify, do you mean that the implied default of this parameter is "NOT ( Yes OR Delayed OR Hybrid )"? If so, how do you suggest to express this? One option is to automatically show "No open-access content" or something like that when the parameter is not specified.</dd> <dd>By the way, a more robust information to show is probably the license of the journal itself, which is less open to interpretation. It could easily be fetched from Wikidata for the open-access journals, and all the others would be proprietary. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z","author":"Nemo bis","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nemo"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-03-21T16:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z"></span>Sorry for the slow answer... Nowadays, most subscription-based journals have OA options, so most journals are at least hybrid OA, many also delayed OA. This means that if we'd make "no" the default, this would be incorrect in most cases. This also goes for <i><a href="/wiki/Advances_in_Mathematics" title="Advances in Mathematics">Advances in Mathematics</a></i> (see above), which also has OA options (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.elsevier.com/journals/advances-in-mathematics/0001-8708/open-access-options">https://www.elsevier.com/journals/advances-in-mathematics/0001-8708/open-access-options</a>). In my experience, "no" is only correct for some minor journals (and those mostly in the humanities, where there are still journals around that are not even available online (e.g., <i><a href="/wiki/Theological_Review" title="Theological Review">Theological Review</a></i>). As for the license, that is not always clear either. Especially hybrid journals may operate under different licenses and it is sometimes a pain to find out what is correct. For the moment, we only display "license" for fully OA journals that operate under a CC license. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 1 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z","c-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2021-03-23T08:28:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"></span>Pinging <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo bis</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:A3nm" title="User:A3nm">A3nm</a>. No response needed, just making sure you saw this as this was archived before I responded. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 5 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-05T06:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>. I agree that in many cases the status will be delayed and/or hybrid. I don't think there should be a default value, but I think manually indicating "no" (or "delayed" or "hybrid" or "delayed/hybrid", or "yes" for bona-fide OA titles) can still be interesting to readers. (I often use Wikipedia to check whether a journal is OA and I'm sure other people do, so indicating "delayed/hybrid" is more helpful than not indicating anything.) Would you agree? Best --<a href="/wiki/User:A3nm" title="User:A3nm">a3nm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A3nm" title="User talk:A3nm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z","author":"A3nm","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-01T10:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z"></span>The problem is that many people go too fast (as, frankly, was the case here too) and fill in "no" if a journal is not completely OA. As I said above, "no" is exceedingly rare and will get rarer soon. Instead of a likely incorrect "no" I prefer nothing, so people will look at a journal's website and discover for themselves whether it's hybrid, delayed, or perhaps indeed not OA at all. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z-A3nm-2021-04-07T14:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Fair enough, I agree I should have filled in "Hybrid" rather than "No", thanks for investigating and fixing it. I have gone over previous edits of mine to fix other such mistakes. I'll indicate "Hybrid" rather than "no" henceforth, unless there's really no OA publishing option, which I agree is becoming quite rare. That said, I do think it's better to have this information on journal infoboxes, rather than leaving readers to figure this out for themselves. Best, --<a href="/wiki/User:A3nm" title="User:A3nm">a3nm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A3nm" title="User talk:A3nm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 8 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z","author":"A3nm","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A3nm-2021-04-08T05:39:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Executioner-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner","c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Executioner","linkableTitle":"Executioner"}--><h2 id="Executioner" data-mw-thread-id="h-Executioner-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Executioner-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"></span>Executioner<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Executioner-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Executioner-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner","c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Executioner-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner","c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Executioner","linkableTitle":"Executioner"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner"></span>Since you killed this article, <a href="/wiki/Commissioner_Service_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)" class="mw-redirect" title="Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)">Commissioner Service (Boy Scouts of America)</a>, how about redirecting the space to <a href="/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America" title="Boy Scouts of America">Boy Scouts of America</a>? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/173.79.61.73" title="Special:Contributions/173.79.61.73">173.79.61.73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:173.79.61.73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:173.79.61.73 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 4 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","author":"173.79.61.73","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-Executioner"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"></span>It's not really a likely search term, so I don't really see what use this would be. <a href="/wiki/Commissioner_Service" class="mw-redirect" title="Commissioner Service">Commissioner Service</a> is more likely and is already a redirect. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-173.79.61.73-2021-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Please restore the content and redirect it to <a href="/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America#Organization" title="Boy Scouts of America">Boy_Scouts_of_America#Organization</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Evrik" title="User:Evrik">evrik</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evrik" title="User talk:Evrik">talk</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Evrik-2021-04-07T20:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-04T21:55:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner"></span>Could you also please restore these:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/BSA_International_Commissioner" class="mw-redirect" title="BSA International Commissioner">BSA International Commissioner</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Council_Commissioner" class="mw-redirect" title="Council Commissioner">Council Commissioner</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/District_Commissioner_(Scouting)" class="mw-redirect" title="District Commissioner (Scouting)">District Commissioner (Scouting)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Francis_H._Olmstead,_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Francis H. Olmstead, Jr.">Francis H. Olmstead, Jr.</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Commissioner_of_the_Boy_Scouts_of_America" class="mw-redirect" title="National Commissioner of the Boy Scouts of America">National Commissioner of the Boy Scouts of America</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Peter_Bomus" class="mw-redirect" title="Peter Bomus">Peter Bomus</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Peter_S._Bomus" class="mw-redirect" title="Peter S. Bomus">Peter S. Bomus</a></li></ul> <p>and point them to the same place? --<a href="/wiki/User:Evrik" title="User:Evrik">evrik</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evrik" title="User talk:Evrik">talk</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z-Executioner"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z"></span>You can simply create these redirects yourself, except the third one that is a very unlikely search term. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-08T21:16:00.000Z-Evrik-2021-04-08T20:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Northern_Independence_Party-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party","c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Northern Independence Party","linkableTitle":"Northern Independence Party"}--><h2 id="Northern_Independence_Party" data-mw-thread-id="h-Northern_Independence_Party-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Northern_Independence_Party-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Northern Independence Party<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Northern_Independence_Party-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Northern_Independence_Party-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party","c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party","timestamp":"2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Northern_Independence_Party-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party","c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Northern Independence Party","linkableTitle":"Northern Independence Party"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"></span>Just contacting you as closing admin for the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Northern_Independence_Party_(2nd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Independence Party (2nd nomination)">last deletion discussion</a> on this. It has been renominated for deletion by the same user, is this normal and ok? <a href="/wiki/User:Boynamedsue" title="User:Boynamedsue">Boynamedsue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boynamedsue" title="User talk:Boynamedsue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","author":"Boynamedsue","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"></span>This is definitely not normal and not OK. I have closed this latest AfD. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-10T21:55:00.000Z-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T19:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"></span>Thanks to you, all the best. <a href="/wiki/User:Boynamedsue" title="User:Boynamedsue">Boynamedsue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boynamedsue" title="User talk:Boynamedsue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 10 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z","author":"Boynamedsue","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-10T21:57:00.000Z-Northern_Independence_Party"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Regarding AfD Qazi Shibli","linkableTitle":"Regarding AfD Qazi Shibli"}--><h2 id="Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"></span>Regarding AfD Qazi Shibli<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Regarding AfD Qazi Shibli","linkableTitle":"Regarding AfD Qazi Shibli"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"></span>Hi, You’re the closing administrator for Qazi Shibli AfD, and before i put it up for deletion review i wanted to consult you. <br/> First, Since the article is a BLP it should be clearly supported by multiple secondary sources. I’ve done a proper WP:BEFORE and didn’t find enough SIGCOV sources. <br/> Second, Multiple sources in the article are from his own media organisation i-e The Kashmiriyat. <br/> Third, TIME being an RS there isn’t SIGCOV, it has no real byline. <br/> Fourth, I’ve made no personal attacks, i raised it to AfD because it didn’t meet WP:GNG or any other policy.<br/> </p><p>I’d be really happy if you can share the Sources on which this article deserves to be in the mainspace? Moreover, All the sources I’ve been through just cover shibli’s Arrest. Isn’t this a BLP1E? Check <a href="/wiki/Arrest_of_Kamran_Yusuf" class="mw-redirect" title="Arrest of Kamran Yusuf">Arrest of Kamran Yusuf</a>, If Shibli gets an standalone article I’d definitely love to work on Kamran Yusuf’s article because it does have good references unlike shibli’s article. Please don’t think this is personal or something like that, I’ve just stated facts above in accordance to wikipedia’s policies. If i am wrong, do correct me.-- <i><a href="/wiki/User:Jammumylove" title="User:Jammumylove"><span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:coral">Jammumylove</span></a></i> <small> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jammumylove#top" title="User talk:Jammumylove">Talk to me or</a></small> <sup><small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jammumylove" title="Special:Contributions/Jammumylove">CHECK MY RECENT WORK</a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 11 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","author":"Jammumylove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z-Regarding_AfD_Qazi_Shibli"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"></span>It is not up to the closer to evaluate sources brought up in the debate: otherwise the close would become a supervote. I just searched around for this AfD (next time please provide a link) and had another look, but I come to the same conclusion as before. You are, of course, free to take this to DRV. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:26:00.000Z-Jammumylove-2021-04-11T00:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Journal of Paramedic Practice","linkableTitle":"Journal of Paramedic Practice"}--><h2 id="Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"></span>Journal of Paramedic Practice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Journal of Paramedic Practice","linkableTitle":"Journal of Paramedic Practice"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice"></span>I did not remove the tag, it was another user DDG. Presumably they are allowed to remove it, as I think they also commenting on their rationale for this decision. <a href="/wiki/User:Tannim101" title="User:Tannim101">Tannim101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tannim101" title="User talk:Tannim101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","author":"Tannim101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z-Journal_of_Paramedic_Practice"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"></span>You're absolutely right, I missed that (just looked at "all changes since last visit"). My bad, I've reverted myself,, apologies. However, you should have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JWG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JWG">WP:JWG</a> to see how to create a neutral article on an academic journal. DGG thinks it can be allowed in draft space, but it most certainly would not survive in this form in main space. In addition, the journal appears to miss <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NJournals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NJournals">WP:NJournals</a> (despite the reference bombing). If moved to main space, I'll take it to AFD. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T09:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z"></span>There are now two independent quotations praising the journal and stating its of high relevance to prehospital care, as you say, without adding even more citations its hard to demonstrate more relevance. It is the journal the majority of the profession's PhDs publish in, and its articles scatter their theses, and there are citations for researchers specifically including it in their systematic review methodology. I'm not sure how much more evidence we can expect to add to meet Criteria 1 - "to be influential in its subject area", it seems theres enough there to demonstrate it is "influential"? <a href="/wiki/User:Tannim101" title="User:Tannim101">Tannim101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tannim101" title="User talk:Tannim101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z","author":"Tannim101","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T09:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z"></span>Until all the crap is cut away (like links to ResearchGate that prove nothing), it will be very difficult to see what is real and what is fluff. You have declared a COI with this journal and that clearly hampers your objectivity. "Seeding" other articles with references to this journal is frowned upon, too. Looking through the history of this article and your involvement with it, I see that (under multiple names -lower case variants) this article has been created by you multiple times and each time was deleted after AfD or CSD G4 and G11... --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-11T10:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z"></span>Perhaps you could offer constructive input on what further evidence would be "sufficient" for this article to meet the criteria for being a page? <a href="/wiki/User:Tannim101" title="User:Tannim101">Tannim101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tannim101" title="User talk:Tannim101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 12 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z","author":"Tannim101","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-11T10:41:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z"></span>It's actually quite simple. You either need 2 or 3 <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> that are <i>independent</i> of the subject (so not by its publisher, the journal itself, or any of the persons involved with it) <i>and</i> discuss the journal <i>in depth</i> (meaning that it would meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>) or showing that it is indexed in one or more <i>selective</i> databases so that it meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NJournals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NJournals">WP:NJournals</a>. So far, I see nothing of the kind. The huge number of "sources" (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFBOMB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFBOMB">WP:REFBOMB</a>) don't really help to see what is substantial and what is not. Many of those "sources" at best are passing mentions and don't add anything to notability. As you will see, even DGG who removed the G11 tag tells you that things would have been different if this were moved into article space. At this point, the best advice I can give you is to abandon this for the moment (move it to your user space, for example) and wait until a major database decides to list it (probably Scopus, as it's the least selective major database that's still accepted under NJournals). --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:52:00.000Z-Tannim101-2021-04-12T20:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C.-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C."],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Attard F.C.","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Attard F.C."}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C." data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C.-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FAttard_F.C."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C.-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C." title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attard F.C.">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attard F.C.</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C.-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C.-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C."],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C.-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C."],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Attard F.C.","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Articles for deletion\/Attard F.C."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C."></span>Don't know if it matters, but the keep !votes aren't citing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFOOTY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFOOTY">WP:NFOOTY</a>, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FOOTYN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FOOTYN">WP:FOOTYN</a>. The former has to do with players, the latter with the broader topics including clubs and leagues.<a href="/wiki/User:Onel5969" title="User:Onel5969"><b><span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onel5969" title="User talk:Onel5969"><i style="color:blue">TT me</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C."><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Attard_F.C.","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Attard_F.C."></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"></span>Oops, I meant the other one, of course. I'll correct this, thanks for letting me know. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T17:16:00.000Z-Onel5969-2021-04-15T15:44:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage","c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Deletion review for TechEngage","linkableTitle":"Deletion review for TechEngage"}--><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_TechEngage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/w/index.php?title=TechEngage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="TechEngage (page does not exist)">TechEngage</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage","c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage","c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Deletion review for TechEngage","linkableTitle":"Deletion review for TechEngage"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"></span>An editor has asked for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#TechEngage" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=TechEngage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="TechEngage (page does not exist)">TechEngage</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/39.46.90.207" title="Special:Contributions/39.46.90.207">39.46.90.207</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:39.46.90.207" title="User talk:39.46.90.207">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","author":"39.46.90.207","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Despite your statement above, given that you didn't care to discuss with me before filing a DRV, as is customary, I don' t intend to participate in that discussion. Good luck. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-12T21:43:00.000Z-39.46.90.207-2021-04-12T20:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"></span>@RandyKitty, I feel the article was a subject of Systematic bias. As per your profile, if some subject comes from an area that is supposed to be the victim of systematic bias, then all considerations of notability can safely be thrown out of the window and proof that the subject exists (such as it having a website and/or some in-passing mentions that would never be sufficient for any other subject) is enough to have the article kept at AfD.</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li><ul><li><ul><li>I am sorry, If I miss some protocols to start the discussion first, as I am not a pro in Wikipedia. Kindly forgo it as an unintentional mistake.</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <p>At the top of your talk page you tell everybody that is here regarding an article that you did to first go to a place that (as only a more experienced wiki person would know) is irrelevant except for speedy deletions. Based on that it's quite a stretch to complain that a new editor didn't discuss it here with you. Sincerely, <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z","author":"North8000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_TechEngage"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z"></span>You're right, REFUND only applies to speedy deletions, I have changed that notice. Nevertheless, I note that the instructions on how to open a DRV are quite clear about the need to discuss this with the closing admin first. BTW, I don't see any evidence that anybody in this case was misled by the notice at the top of this page, TechEngage is not mentioned anywhere on REFUND. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-13T01:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the work that you do. <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z","author":"North8000","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2021-04-13T04:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-15T21:32:00.000Z-North8000-2021-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Romani_people_in_Hungary-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Romani people in Hungary","linkableTitle":"Romani people in Hungary"}--><h2 id="Romani_people_in_Hungary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Romani_people_in_Hungary-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Romani_people_in_Hungary-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z"></span>Romani people in Hungary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Romani_people_in_Hungary-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Romani_people_in_Hungary-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary","timestamp":"2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Romani_people_in_Hungary-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Romani people in Hungary","linkableTitle":"Romani people in Hungary"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary"></span>Hi, I'm just contacting you as an uninvolved admin re an RfC at <a href="/wiki/Romani_people_in_Hungary" title="Romani people in Hungary">Romani people in Hungary</a>. It has been open for over a month, and has had no new comments since 1st April. It originated from a DRN case between myself and another user who has since been banned. The survey has only obtained 6 votes (IIRC) and the only vote for the banned user's version was his own. Is it ok to close it now, and if so, do I have to go through a particular procedure? </p><p>All the best, BNS <a href="/wiki/User:Boynamedsue" title="User:Boynamedsue">Boynamedsue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boynamedsue" title="User talk:Boynamedsue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z","author":"Boynamedsue","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boynamedsue-2021-04-16T06:31:00.000Z-Romani_people_in_Hungary"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Happy Adminship Anniversary!","linkableTitle":"Happy Adminship Anniversary!"}--><h2 id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"><span id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Happy Adminship Anniversary!","linkableTitle":"Happy Adminship Anniversary!"}--></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 1px solid #CC9999; background-color: Yellow;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="text-align:center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/50px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/75px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/100px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> </td> <td style="text-align:left" width="100%">Wishing <b><a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a></b> a very <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3ARandykitty"><b>happy adminship anniversary</b></a> on behalf of the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BDC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BDC">Wikipedia Birthday Committee</a></b>! <i><b style="font-family:Georgia"><a href="/wiki/User:History_DMZ" title="User:History DMZ"><em style="color:Purple">History DMZ</em></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:History_DMZ" title="User talk:History DMZ"><em style="color:Red">HQ</em></a>) <a href="/wiki/3:16" class="mw-redirect" title="3:16">†</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/History_DMZ" title="Special:Contributions/History DMZ"><em style="color:Green">wire</em></a>)</sup></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 17 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","author":"History DMZ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T14:37:00.000Z-History_DMZ-2021-04-17T14:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Happy Adminship Anniversary!","linkableTitle":"Happy Adminship Anniversary! 2"}--><h2 id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"><span id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"></span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Happy Adminship Anniversary!","linkableTitle":"Happy Adminship Anniversary! 2"}--></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Icon_tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/50px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/75px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/100px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:125%; padding-bottom: 1em;">Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Have a very <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3ARandykitty">happy adminship anniversary</a> on your special day! </p><p>Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU"><span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;"><b>CAPTAIN RAJU</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User talk:CAPTAIN RAJU">(T)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","author":"CAPTAIN RAJU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"></span> </p> </div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Capt'n! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 17 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-17T19:01:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-04-17T18:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Having trouble with SNG vs GNG interpretation re: NSPORT","linkableTitle":"Having trouble with SNG vs GNG interpretation re: NSPORT"}--><h2 id="Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT" data-mw-thread-id="h-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z"></span>Having trouble with SNG vs GNG interpretation re: NSPORT<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT","timestamp":"2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Having trouble with SNG vs GNG interpretation re: NSPORT","linkableTitle":"Having trouble with SNG vs GNG interpretation re: NSPORT"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"></span>Hi, I've been under the impression that NSPORT is subordinate to GNG, but <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swarm#Kant_Singh_close" title="User talk:Swarm">this</a> conversation is making me wonder if I'm missing something?? I'd especially appreciate any guidance on particular RfCs upholding my interpretation. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:JoelleJay" title="User:JoelleJay">JoelleJay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JoelleJay" title="User talk:JoelleJay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z","author":"JoelleJay","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoelleJay-2021-04-19T04:56:00.000Z-Having_trouble_with_SNG_vs_GNG_interpretation_re:_NSPORT"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"John Allen (Irish cricketer) - argument strength is really about policy backing John Allen (Irish cricketer)","linkableTitle":"John Allen (Irish cricketer) - argument strength is really about policy backing John Allen (Irish cricketer)"}--><h2 id="John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing_John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" data-mw-thread-id="h-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"><span id="John_Allen_.28Irish_cricketer.29_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing_John_Allen_.28Irish_cricketer.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"></span>John Allen (Irish cricketer) - argument strength is really about policy backing <a href="/wiki/John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)" class="mw-redirect" title="John Allen (Irish cricketer)">John Allen (Irish cricketer)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"John Allen (Irish cricketer) - argument strength is really about policy backing John Allen (Irish cricketer)","linkableTitle":"John Allen (Irish cricketer) - argument strength is really about policy backing John Allen (Irish cricketer)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing"></span>So without knowing exactly what argument(s) you found compelling it's perhaps hard to give you an exact answer. The actual AfD is of course sparse on actual arguments, and even the DRV is fairly "assert-y" rather than "argument-y", if that makes sense (e.g., it's people asserting the article did this or that, rather than demonstrating it). The one thing I did have to chew on a lot is that there were some <i>assertions</i> about what policy says about self-published sources, but if you read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSSELF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSSELF">WP:RSSELF</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> they don't support that argument, so it's not possible to "up-weight" that argument - upweighting arguments generally requires some strong policy backing that reflects a wider consensus. Otherwise, the quantity and depth of sources needed to meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> has a lot of grey area where !vote, but headcount still weighs a lot because the line is (deliberately) vague as to number and depth of sources. <a href="/wiki/User:WilyD" title="User:WilyD">Wily</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilyD" title="User talk:WilyD"><span style="color:#FF8800">D</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 23 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","author":"WilyD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Wily"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z-John_Allen_(Irish_cricketer)_-_argument_strength_is_really_about_policy_backing"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WileyD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WileyD (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"></span>WileyD</a>, thanks for explaining your thinking. I obviously disagree. While the SNG may have been met, there was largely consensus that the available sourcing did not meet SIGCOV and that therefore GNG was not met. Oh well. In any case, I expect there soon to be an RFC on SNG/GNG issues. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 23 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-04-23T12:14:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"></span>Well, a no consensus close can reasonably be renominated after a couple months. The original AfD was pretty .... terse ... so a more detailed argument might well carry the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:WilyD" title="User:WilyD">Wily</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilyD" title="User talk:WilyD"><span style="color:#FF8800">D</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z","author":"WilyD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Wily"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilyD-2021-04-25T15:48:00.000Z-WilyD-2021-04-23T11:04:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Article Deletion of Deepak Rawat","linkableTitle":"Article Deletion of Deepak Rawat"}--><h2 id="Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"></span>Article Deletion of <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Article Deletion of Deepak Rawat","linkableTitle":"Article Deletion of Deepak Rawat"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"></span>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>, Article- <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a>. This-- <a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Deepak_Rawat">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Deepak_Rawat</a> </p><p>Let just take some examples, one by one--- Link 1-- 👇 </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.aajtak.in/education/photo/ias-officer-deepak-rawat-ex-dm-haridwar-profile-how-clear-upsc-interview-tedu-1027326-2020-02-18">https://www.aajtak.in/education/photo/ias-officer-deepak-rawat-ex-dm-haridwar-profile-how-clear-upsc-interview-tedu-1027326-2020-02-18</a> </p><p>Question No.1-- Is there just trivial mention in this👆 news about Deepak Rawat or the entire news article is about Deepak Rawat IAS? </p><p>After (answer) this I'll give more. </p><p>Thanks. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007" title="User:Aj Ajay Mehta 007">Aj Ajay Mehta 007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007" title="User talk:Aj Ajay Mehta 007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","author":"Aj Ajay Mehta 007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I'm afraid that you misunderstand the role of the closing admin. It is not my job to evaluate sources, that would make my close what we call a "supervote". Instead, I have to evaluate the arguments presented in the discussion and whether they are policy-based. In this case, I came down on the "delete" side as having the better arguments that convinced other editors. Hope this explains. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T09:31:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T05:33:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"></span>Dear <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>:</span>, There is well sigcov about the person <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a>. There is lot of notability about the person. One of them(one of editor) who voted for delete(in Afd discussion) also who insisting so much for delete has been caught in sock puppetry. How can you(one) believe in such editors. You should review again article. Well, I have many news references where there are not just trivial mention about the article but the entire article is all about <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a>. But other editors don't want to respond. My references were also in accordance to wiki policy, may be 1 or 2 of them are not so good, but that doesn't mean article should be deleted, we should remove those references(hardly 1 or 2 references), we shouldn't delete the whole article for that. What can I do. What should I do now! Plz guide me. <a href="/wiki/User:Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007" title="User:Aj Ajay Mehta 007">Aj Ajay Mehta 007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007" title="User talk:Aj Ajay Mehta 007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z","author":"Aj Ajay Mehta 007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z"></span>If you feel that I didn't judge consensus correctly, you can go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a> and present your case there. Note that DRV is <i>not</i> for re-litigating the AfD but solely for judging the close of the AfD. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T15:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"></span>Dear <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>:</span>, </p><p><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I am not trying to point out that you are wrong as you have said you haven't evaluate the sources. My problem is with the editors who haven't evaluate the given references in the article <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a>.</q> Well, I am not very much aware about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>. I don't know too much about it. </p><p>Point is-+-This article <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a> consists of good references and good notability. Not just trivial mentions. The whole news is all about <a href="/wiki/Deepak_Rawat" title="Deepak Rawat">Deepak Rawat</a>. As sock puppetry editors are giving votes. </p><p><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Should I recreate the article?, this time I will only include the references where the whole news is all about Deepak Rawat(not just mentions). Should I recreate or is there any other way to get it back?</q> <a href="/wiki/User:Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007" title="User:Aj Ajay Mehta 007">Aj Ajay Mehta 007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007" title="User talk:Aj Ajay Mehta 007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z","author":"Aj Ajay Mehta 007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z-Article_Deletion_of_Deepak_Rawat"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z"></span>No, you should not re-create an article that was deleted after a community debate. If you have evidence that was not presented during the discussion (note that this is not the same as a different interpretation of said evidence), that, too, can be a reason to go to DRV. Further discussion here seems futile. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-05-04T16:32:00.000Z-Aj_Ajay_Mehta_007-2021-05-04T15:47:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Orphaned non-free image File:2014 CJON cover.jpg","linkableTitle":"Orphaned non-free image File:2014 CJON cover.jpg"}--><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:2014 CJON cover.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg","timestamp":"2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Orphaned non-free image File:2014 CJON cover.jpg","linkableTitle":"Orphaned non-free image File:2014 CJON cover.jpg"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-B-bot-2021-05-06T17:03:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/wiki/File:2014_CJON_cover.jpg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:2014 CJON cover.jpg">File:2014 CJON cover.jpg</a></b>. 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You can comment at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112147" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T112147">T112147</a> if you have objections.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/2021_review" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/2021 review">community consultation</a> on the Arbitration Committee <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AC/DS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AC/DS">discretionary sanctions procedure</a> was closed, and an initial draft based on feedback from the now closed consultation is expected to be released in early June to early July for community review.</li></ul></dd></dl> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; 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Just in case if you missed the ping, I requested your attention at <a href="/wiki/Talk:International_Quarterly_for_Asian_Studies#Does_this_helps?" title="Talk:International Quarterly for Asian Studies">Talk:International Quarterly for Asian Studies#Does this helps?</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User:Мастер Шторм">Мастер Шторм</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User talk:Мастер Шторм">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z-IQAS_Journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z-IQAS_Journal"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440 \u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z-IQAS_Journal","replies":["c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z-IQAS_Journal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z"></span>Hello. Since the journal has been known as <i>Internationales Asienforum</i> for nearly all of its publication-time, and when I searched online, I found more results for <i>Internationales Asienforum</i> than International Quarterly for Asian Studies, so I have a question — Can we create a redirect <i>Internationales Asienforum</i> to International Quarterly for Asian Studies? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User:Мастер Шторм">Мастер Шторм</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User talk:Мастер Шторм">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440 \u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T05:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z"></span>Hello. Per current and improved version of article, I have removed the tag. I hope that's OK. Also, an editor has created the redirect <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internationales_Asienforum&oldid=1022405574">[1]</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User:Мастер Шторм">Мастер Шторм</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User talk:Мастер Шторм">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440 \u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T06:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z"></span>Haven't gotten back to you yet, but will soon as I am slowly catching up with other stuff. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 21 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-05-21T22:06:00.000Z-Мастер_Шторм-2021-05-10T11:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copy_and_paste-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Copy and paste","linkableTitle":"Copy and paste"}--><h2 id="Copy_and_paste" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copy_and_paste-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copy_and_paste-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"></span>Copy and paste<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copy_and_paste-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copy_and_paste-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copy_and_paste-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Copy and paste","linkableTitle":"Copy and paste"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste"></span>Hi, thanks for tagging the images Lute Currie uploaded to Commons which are potentially copyrighted. I also noted that this article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Eduard_Ritter_von_Josch&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Eduard Ritter von Josch (page does not exist)">Eduard Ritter von Josch</a> is a word by word copy and paste job from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.academia.edu/48861670/Eduard_Ritter_von_Josch_Biography">[2]</a>. But is that a potential copyvio problem? The author was Lute Currie. I don't understand the policies on this. It seems he uploaded that article online a while back but only a few days ago ported it onto Wikipedia. As he is the author of the article I don't see how it can be copyrighted but it has been copy and pasted. I don't know what the policy is on this and thought I would ask. <a href="/wiki/User:Psychologist_Guy" title="User:Psychologist Guy">Psychologist Guy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Psychologist_Guy" title="User talk:Psychologist Guy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 22 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","author":"Psychologist Guy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z-Copy_and_paste"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I deleted it. <a href="/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog" title="On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog">We have no way of knowing</a> whether the "Lute Currie" who rote the Academia.com PDF is the same person as the editor here. Even if they are identical, the academia piece lists <i>two</i> authors and they can't both be "our" Lute Currie. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-05-22T21:12:00.000Z-Psychologist_Guy-2021-05-22T20:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person."],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Removing the page of a person.","linkableTitle":"Removing the page of a person."}--><h2 id="Removing_the_page_of_a_person." data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Removing the page of a person.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person."],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.","timestamp":"2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person."],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Removing the page of a person.","linkableTitle":"Removing the page of a person."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person."></span>Good afternoon. This question comes into discussion of actor Steven Olsen--how come you deleted the wiki page of this person? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC (page does not exist)">2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC#top" title="User talk:2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC" title="Special:Contributions/2601:183:C800:9CE0:78A7:D070:BBA7:FFDC">contribs</a>) </span> </p> <ul><li>Hi, I've searched, but I don't find any page about a "Steven Olsen" that I (or anybody else) would have deleted. Can you give me a link to the page you're talking about? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person."><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-05-24T17:28:00.000Z-Removing_the_page_of_a_person."></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Hello! Brunch for you!","linkableTitle":"Hello! Brunch for you!"}--><h2 id="Hello!_Brunch_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z"><span id="Hello.21_Brunch_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z"></span>Hello! Brunch for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!","timestamp":"2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Hello! Brunch for you!","linkableTitle":"Hello! Brunch for you!"}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Borscht_with_bread.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Borscht_with_bread.jpg/100px-Borscht_with_bread.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="67" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Borscht_with_bread.jpg/150px-Borscht_with_bread.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Borscht_with_bread.jpg/200px-Borscht_with_bread.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4752" data-file-height="3168"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>Hello! Brunch for you!</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you for the improvements made by you to the journal articles started by me. I will try to learn the most from them. You must get a good brunch for your kindness <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User:Мастер Шторм">Мастер Шторм</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC" title="User talk:Мастер Шторм">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440 \u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u041c\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0440_\u0428\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043c-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мастер_Шторм-2021-06-02T15:08:00.000Z-Hello!_Brunch_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Please reconsider deletion of page on me - Carl Haber","linkableTitle":"Please reconsider deletion of page on me - Carl Haber"}--><h2 id="Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z"></span>Please reconsider deletion of page on me - Carl Haber<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","timestamp":"2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Please reconsider deletion of page on me - Carl Haber","linkableTitle":"Please reconsider deletion of page on me - Carl Haber"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"></span>Hello, I recently discovered that the page on me - Carl Haber (American filmmaker and professor of film) - was recently deleted and that you were involved in this decision in some way. I would ask you - respectfully - to return the page to Wikipedia if possible. I am indeed the filmmaker/educator in question. The film credits listed (which are in fact only partial) are all valid and can be seen on the IMDB as well. My history as described is a rather superficial summary, but it is correct. I was not aware of the need for additional citations (I did not start the page - and the individual who did I believe is no longer available to act on this). Additional citations can certainly be furnished - by me if needed - including but not limited to videos and testimonials of our students, the film school website which I founded and direct, and films made by students which I have supervised over the years can be seen on the RIFS Vimeo page and the RIFS website. Additionally the BFI (British Film Institute) has information about me on their site and a film I made years ago is still shown on their site (since it won a BAFTA Award long ago). They reference me on that page and the fact that I run the film school in Rome. I have written and directed new material as recently as 2018 that was produced and screened in festivals, and have several things in development currently in both Europe and the US. It would have been nice to have known that this deletion was being discussed before the decision was made, but I understand that the process does not allow for that; so I ask you please, what can be done to reinstate the page? What if anything can I provide to shore up the solidity in the moderators' view, that confirms the accuracy of the information on that page? It is all accurate and true. Thank you for your help, I appreciate your attention to this. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:93.32.220.203&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:93.32.220.203 (page does not exist)">93.32.220.203</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:93.32.220.203#top" title="User talk:93.32.220.203">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/93.32.220.203" title="Special:Contributions/93.32.220.203">contribs</a>) </span> </p> <ul><li>Hi, your bio was deleted after a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">community discussion</a> (with unfortunately low participation). As closing admin, it is not my job to give my personal opinion on an article, but only to gauge community consensus. So I don't usually look in detail at the article itself, but evaluate the comments made. To respond to your query, I had a look at the deleted article. As one of the participants in the debate (which was properly announced by a banner placed on top of the article) remarked, it is unacceptably promotional and not encyclopedic at all. I don't see much use in restoring it, even if <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> <i>independent</i> of the subject (you) exist. It is better to start from scratch. Given that you do not appear very familiar with how WP works, it would be best if you didn't do this yourself. If you meet our inclusion criteria (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFILMMAKER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFILMMAKER">WP:NFILMMAKER</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROF">WP:PROF</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANYBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANYBIO">WP:ANYBIO</a> - only one of these needs to be met) somebody will sooner or later create an article on you. Hope this helps. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-06-01T06:50:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"></span>Hallo RK: Deleting that article left <a href="/wiki/Carl_Haber_(physicist)" class="mw-redirect" title="Carl Haber (physicist)">Carl Haber (physicist)</a>, who should have been linked from the now-deleted primary topic article, so I've moved it to base name as now PT. <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z","author":"PamD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","replies":[],"displayName":"Pam"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-2021-06-03T05:37:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"></span>Oops, I missed that. Perhaps the closing script should be modified to emit a warning in cases like this. Anyway, thanks for fixing this! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 3 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-06-03T08:33:00.000Z-Please_reconsider_deletion_of_page_on_me_-_Carl_Haber","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-07-03T11:27:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_July_2021"></span>News and updates for administrators</a> from the past month (June 2021). </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1216972533"><div> <table class="col-begin" role="presentation"> <tbody><tr> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/20px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/30px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/40px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> <b>Administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Trialpears" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Trialpears">Trialpears</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1029158270#Desysop_request_(AGK)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1029158270">AGK</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1026208514#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#June_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1026208514">Eliz81</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1026208514#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#June_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1026208514">Mulad</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1026208514#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#June_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1026208514">ThaddeusB</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1026208514#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#June_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1026208514">Vianello</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1026208514#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#June_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1026208514">Who</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_rename.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Renamed"><img alt="renamed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Pictogram_voting_rename.png/20px-Pictogram_voting_rename.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Pictogram_voting_rename.png/30px-Pictogram_voting_rename.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Pictogram_voting_rename.png/40px-Pictogram_voting_rename.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lacrimosus">Lacrimosus</a></span> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ikuzaf">Ikuzaf</a></span></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/20px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/30px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/40px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="467"/></a></span> <b>Interface administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1030897203#Request_for_IADMIN_rights:_Ragesoss" title="Special:PermanentLink/1030897203">Ragesoss</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ANEWSicon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/150px-ANEWSicon.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="151" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/225px-ANEWSicon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/300px-ANEWSicon.png 2x" data-file-width="596" data-file-height="600"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Checkuser_Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/20px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/30px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/40px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/21615639#AGK@en.wikipedia" class="extiw" title="m:Special:Permalink/21615639">AGK</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1027700872#Changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/1027700872">DGG</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Oversight_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/20px-Oversight_logo.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/30px-Oversight_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/40px-Oversight_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="1058" data-file-height="1058"/></a></span> <b>Oversighter changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/21615639#AGK@en.wikipedia" class="extiw" title="m:Special:Permalink/21615639">AGK</a></dd></dl> <p> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Guideline and policy news</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_181#Delete_all_books_within_the_book_namespace" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 181">Consensus has been reached</a> to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFUND">WP:REFUND</a> even after the namespace is removed.</li> <li>An <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#RFC:_Pending-changes_protection_of_Today's_featured_article" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">RfC is open</a> to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TFA">TFAs</a>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octicons-tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/20px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/40px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></a></span> <b>Technical news</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>IP addresses of unregistered users are to <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation" class="extiw" title="m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation">be hidden</a> from everyone. There is a rough draft of how <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation#Updates" class="extiw" title="m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation">IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them</a>. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. 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The Journal of Neuroimmune Pharmacology (JNIP)'s current impact factor for 2020 is 4.147. This impact factor was not updated last year in 2019. The outdated 2018 JIF appears in two place on the wiki page (under the heading "Abstracting and indexing" and in the sidebar box on the right hand side of the screen). </p><p>May I make this edit on JNIP's wiki page? or must another Wikipedia editor make this edit since I am affiliated with JNIP? </p><p>Thanks for your help and advice! </p><p>Wikipedia page of concern: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Neuroimmune_Pharmacology">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Neuroimmune_Pharmacology</a> </p><p>Sources for new/current impact factor: JNIP website: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.springer.com/journal/11481">https://www.springer.com/journal/11481</a> Clarivate Journal Citation Report: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://jcr.clarivate.com/jcr-jp/journal-profile?journal=J%20NEUROIMMUNE%20PHARM&year=2020&fromPage=%2Fjcr%2Fhome&SID=H3-eG3aUKXqHbx2FAse0fh3vc436MxxyXYgCC3-18x2dzQ17UkgnYokeA24DqhpckAx3Dx3Dx2FLopfcV5zbJuEJHM5f7KIwx3Dx3D-WwpRYkX4Gz8e7T4uNl5SUQx3Dx3D-wBEj1mx2B0mykql8H4kstFLwx3Dx3D">https://jcr.clarivate.com/jcr-jp/journal-profile?journal=J%20NEUROIMMUNE%20PHARM&year=2020&fromPage=%2Fjcr%2Fhome&SID=H3-eG3aUKXqHbx2FAse0fh3vc436MxxyXYgCC3-18x2dzQ17UkgnYokeA24DqhpckAx3Dx3Dx2FLopfcV5zbJuEJHM5f7KIwx3Dx3D-WwpRYkX4Gz8e7T4uNl5SUQx3Dx3D-wBEj1mx2B0mykql8H4kstFLwx3Dx3D</a> </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JNIP_HEG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JNIP HEG (page does not exist)">JNIP HEG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JNIP_HEG" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JNIP HEG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Journal_of_Neuroimmune_Pharmacology_updated_impact_factor_for_2020" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 8 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Journal_of_Neuroimmune_Pharmacology_updated_impact_factor_for_2020"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z","author":"JNIP HEG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Journal_of_Neuroimmune_Pharmacology_updated_impact_factor_for_2020","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Journal_of_Neuroimmune_Pharmacology_updated_impact_factor_for_2020"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I finished the update (it was already partially done). Minor neutral edits like this you can do yourself, but note that the JCR link that you gave should not be used as a reference as it will only work for yourself (if it hasn't even expired yet). I've updated the appropriate reference. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 9 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-07-09T12:44:00.000Z-JNIP_HEG-2021-07-08T18:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Closing an afd and keeping that article","linkableTitle":"Closing an afd and keeping that article"}--><h2 id="Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z"></span>Closing an afd and keeping that article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article","timestamp":"2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Closing an afd and keeping that article","linkableTitle":"Closing an afd and keeping that article"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article"></span>Hi, Randykitty You had made a relisting in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Naseer_Sankranthi" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naseer Sankranthi">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naseer Sankranthi</a>. There are enough keep votes and also there are strong points that support keeping of that article. So I request you to keep the article and close the AFD. Its been 2 weeks since the discussion has been held.... <a href="/wiki/User:Sonal_Mathew" title="User:Sonal Mathew">Sonal Mathew</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sonal_Mathew" title="User talk:Sonal Mathew">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z","author":"Sonal Mathew","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sonal_Mathew-2021-07-09T19:27:00.000Z-Closing_an_afd_and_keeping_that_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AN_discussion-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"AN discussion","linkableTitle":"AN discussion"}--><h2 id="AN_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-AN_discussion-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AN_discussion-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z"></span>AN discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AN_discussion-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AN_discussion-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion","timestamp":"2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AN_discussion-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"AN discussion","linkableTitle":"AN discussion"}--></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion"></span>For what it's worth, there is an AN discussion regarding something you were involved with at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Delete_without_AFD" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Delete without AFD</a> (courtesy notice). <a href="/wiki/User:78.26" title="User:78.26"><span style="border:1px solid black;color:red; padding:1px;background:1h5h1h; color: #008B8B;"><b>78.26</b></span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:78.26" title="User talk:78.26">spin me</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/78.26" title="Special:Contributions/78.26">revolutions</a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z","author":"78.26","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-78.26-2021-07-29T15:44:00.000Z-AN_discussion"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Request of restoration of draft:Ebgr Babalola Olatunji and User:Tommygogd","linkableTitle":"Request of restoration of draft:Ebgr Babalola Olatunji and User:Tommygogd"}--><h2 id="Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z"></span>Request of restoration of draft:Ebgr Babalola Olatunji and User:Tommygogd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd","timestamp":"2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Request of restoration of draft:Ebgr Babalola Olatunji and User:Tommygogd","linkableTitle":"Request of restoration of draft:Ebgr Babalola Olatunji and User:Tommygogd"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd"></span>Hello please i am contacting you in regard of two things, first my userpage <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tommygogd&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tommygogd (page does not exist)">Tommygogd</a> that was brought down and my first draft article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Engr_Babalola_Olatunji&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Engr Babalola Olatunji (page does not exist)">Draft:Engr Babalola Olatunji</a> this article was done neutrally , and i have been told to do declare a conflict of interest on my user page which i did, i do not understand why the article was brought down and also my page, this is my first article ever and i am doing this on a neutral point , is it possible for a person who does not have any contribution or whatsover to be paid for creating article, please i am pleading kindly restore the page so i can add more citation or for other contributor to be able to contribute to it , i am already getting discouraged because this is my first contribution and i have put so much effort in it than to be deleted, even if i am not given the priviledge to edit it , at least other contributor can for the sake of my effort.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tommygogd&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tommygogd (page does not exist)">Tommygogd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tommygogd" title="User talk:Tommygogd">talk</a>). </p> <ul><li>I'm very sorry, but two different admins judged your draft as being too promotional. You're free to give it another try, using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">neutral language</a>. Some advicce though: creating new articles is one of the hardest things to do on WP. I strongly recommend that you first do a lot of small edits in other articles to get a feel for how things are being done here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_28#c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 30 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z","author":"Randykitty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2021-07-30T14:24:00.000Z-Request_of_restoration_of_draft:Ebgr_Babalola_Olatunji_and_User:Tommygogd"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>:</span> * No problem but still it has not been restored both my userpage and the article, i will follow your advice now and wont submit until when any admin tell me its good to go, because i really have so much interest in becoming a contributor on wikipedia , i had loved creating content for years and i am going to do better to become a good contributor to wikipedia.</dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You've_got_mail-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"You've got mail","linkableTitle":"You've got mail"}--><h2 id="You've_got_mail" data-mw-thread-id="h-You've_got_mail-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z"><span id="You.27ve_got_mail"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You've_got_mail-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z"></span>You've got mail<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You've_got_mail-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You've_got_mail-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z-You've_got_mail","timestamp":"2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You've_got_mail-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"You've got mail","linkableTitle":"You've got mail"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-2021-08-10T11:26:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Mail-message-new.svg/40px-Mail-message-new.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Mail-message-new.svg/60px-Mail-message-new.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Mail-message-new.svg/80px-Mail-message-new.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Randykitty. 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href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1031318867#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#July_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1031318867">Schissel</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1031318867#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2021#July_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1031318867">Ultraexactzz</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1035529068#Desysop_request_(Wknight94)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1035529068">Wknight94</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ANEWSicon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/150px-ANEWSicon.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="151" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/225px-ANEWSicon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/300px-ANEWSicon.png 2x" data-file-width="596" 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