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animations?</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178841&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178841&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178841" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102675&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Redeth</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T00:20:50+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 12:20 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Eternal, Jetryl, great!<br> <br> Now, since this is a very simple unit, I've been using it to experiment with standing animations, and I've found out that these, unlike death or attack animations, must consist on a rather significant amount of frames but with <strong class="text-strong">very</strong> little variations on the sprite from frame to frame... no more than 1 pixel of movement at a time, actually. This means they are fairly easy to make, but quite time consuming too...<br> <br> The following animation consists of 12 frames (base standing frame plus 6 unique images, 5 of which are used twice). I'd like to know what you guys think.<br> <span style="color:green"><br> EDIT: Changed the thread title to include idle animations, since that's what this is mostly about. -zookeeper</span></div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=11286&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="postimage" alt="spearman-standing-animation.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>spearman-standing-animation.gif (5.89 KiB) Viewed 46022 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="notice"> Last edited by <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102675&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Redeth</a> on December 24th, 2007, 6:41 am, edited 2 times in total. </div> <div id="sig178841" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">- Rojo Capo Rey de Copas -</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178860" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178860"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=258_1310452878.gif" width="99" height="99" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Jetrel</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=258&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">7242</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 23rd, 2004, 3:36 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Midwest US</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178860"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178860&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178860"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178860&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178860&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178860" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Jetrel</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T00:52:59+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 12:52 am</time> </p> <div class="content">The spearman has been <strong class="text-strong">committed</strong>.<br> <br> As for the impaler, many things about his animations can be ripped-off from the rouser. Hint, hint.<br> <blockquote><div><cite>Redeth wrote:</cite>Now, since this is a very simple unit, I've been using it to experiment with standing animations.</div></blockquote> <img src="http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/icon_pensive_170.gif" class="postimage" alt="Image"> Very interesting. I'm currently undecided as to the direction standing animations will go, but please continue this experiment.<br> <br> I ask that you make the following changes:<br> Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ Heavily reduce, but do not remove, the ear flapping. Let the ears flap a bit, but don't have them flap so far.<br> <br> Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ Halve the speed, just for my own visualization.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178888" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178888"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=176_1218484969.png" width="96" height="84" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">turin</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of the East</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=176&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">11662</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 11th, 2004, 7:17 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Texas</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact turin"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact turin</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="http://turinhurinson.wordpress.com/" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178888"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178888&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178888"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178888&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178888&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178888" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">turin</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T01:27:32+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 1:27 am</time> </p> <div class="content">With regards to the standing frame: I think it moves too fast now. When someone stands still, they don't bounce up and down that fast. I would say half the speed, not just for Jetryl's visualization but for the final version as well.</div> <div id="sig178888" class="signature">For I am <a href="http://turinhurinson.wordpress.com" class="postlink">Turin Turambar</a> - Master of Doom, by doom mastered. On permanent Wesbreak. Will not respond to private messages. 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It makes him seem really winded and gasping for breath.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178937" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178937"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=103562&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">tsr</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=103562&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">790</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 24th, 2006, 1:05 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178937"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178937&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178937"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178937&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178937&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178937" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=103562&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">tsr</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T04:20:51+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 4:20 am</time> </p> <div class="content">I do agree with your observations about the moving standing frame. But at least I see the gobling as a small, quite scared unit, so I don't think it should stand and breath as slowly/calmly as an orc or troll, etc. <br> <br> (The ears are way to flappy)<br> <br> It would maybe be cool if it would have a trembling kind of movement.<br> <br> 2 cents, tsr</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178943" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178943"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=258_1310452878.gif" width="99" height="99" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Jetrel</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=258&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">7242</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 23rd, 2004, 3:36 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Midwest US</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178943"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178943&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178943"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178943&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178943&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178943" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Jetrel</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T05:00:02+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 5:00 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Master Stilgar wrote:</cite>If that's supposed to be breathing, I'd say the movement is too significant. It makes him seem really winded and gasping for breath.</div></blockquote> It's bobbing, it's an accepted convention of sprite videogame graphics:<br> <br> <img src="http://www.rocards.de/images/jobs/lordknight/f_Load-Knight.gif" class="postimage" alt="Image"> <img src="http://www.rocards.de/images/jobs/assassincross/f_assassin.gif" class="postimage" alt="Image"> <img src="http://www.rocards.de/images/jobs/knight/knightmale.gif" class="postimage" alt="Image"><br> <br> I don't think we should have it quite so pronounced as these examples, but we should have some of it.<br> <br> I'm working on a proposal for standing animations, and these will account for one of the key types of standing animations. To make a long story short, these, which should include flags rippling, capes, swaying, etc. will provide the vast majority of screentime. Every once in a while, the unit should play some *other* animation, and actually do something (like scratching their head, spinning their sword, etc). But those are less important that the "90% of the time" animations like this.<br> <br> We should also shoot for multiple, but very similar, variations of animations like this.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178950" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178950"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102677&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Stilgar</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102677&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">465</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 21st, 2006, 8:22 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178950"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178950&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178950"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178950&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178950&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178950" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102677&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Stilgar</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T05:47:07+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 5:47 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Oh, like Street Fighter? I thought that was only done with big sprites, all the small-sprite games that I remember only had more subtle motion like hair or a cape that flutters, or blinking eyes, when they had anything at all. If there were a bunch of units on-screen all gyrating around in that "come get some" fashion, I get the feeling it would be distracting/irritating. Not that I'm any master of graphics.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178953" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178953"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=258_1310452878.gif" width="99" height="99" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Jetrel</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=258&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">7242</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 23rd, 2004, 3:36 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Midwest US</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178953"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178953&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178953"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178953&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178953&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178953" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Jetrel</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T05:51:14+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 5:51 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Master Stilgar wrote:</cite>Oh, like Street Fighter? I thought that was only done with big sprites, all the small-sprite games that I remember only had more subtle motion like hair or a cape that flutters, or blinking eyes, when they had anything at all. If there were a bunch of units on-screen all gyrating around in that "come get some" fashion, I get the feeling it would be distracting/irritating. Not that I'm any master of graphics.</div></blockquote> Hence the "Some of that, but not such exaggerated motions".<br> <br> Too much would cause the problem you just described.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p178960" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile178960"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102677&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Stilgar</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102677&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">465</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 21st, 2006, 8:22 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content178960"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=178960&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178960"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=178960&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=178960&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p178960" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102677&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Stilgar</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-30T06:06:52+00:00">August 30th, 2006, 6:06 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Well, Redeth's looks to me like "too much", though looking close it looks like the goblin is making a two-pixel drop, so I guess there's still a bit of room to tone it down if necessary.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p179178" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile179178"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102675&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=102675_1272205228.jpg" width="69" height="67" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102675&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Redeth</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Art Contributor</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102675&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">338</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 21st, 2006, 5:08 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Buenos Aires, Argentina</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content179178"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=179178&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179178"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=179178&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=179178&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179178" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102675&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Redeth</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-31T00:35:01+00:00">August 31st, 2006, 12:35 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Jetryl wrote:</cite>I ask that you make the following changes:<br> Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ Heavily reduce, but do not remove, the ear flapping. Let the ears flap a bit, but don't have them flap so far.<br> <br> Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ Halve the speed, just for my own visualization.</div></blockquote> Sure. The first one was 100ms/frame, now it's 200ms/frame. I reduced and randomized the ear flapping too.<br> <br> To prevent these animations from becoming annoying, boring or repetitive, perhaps there could be the 'standing animations', extremely calm and subtle, for all the non active units, and the 'battle ready' animations, a lot more fluid and flamboyant, for the currently selected or highlighted one.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=11299&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="postimage" alt="spearman-standing-animation-2.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>spearman-standing-animation-2.gif (4.07 KiB) Viewed 46015 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig179178" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">- Rojo Capo Rey de Copas -</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p179181" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile179181"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102474&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">kshinji</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102474&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">649</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 21st, 2005, 7:24 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Gdansk, Poland</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content179181"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=179181&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179181"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=179181&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=179181&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179181" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102474&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">kshinji</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-31T00:56:30+00:00">August 31st, 2006, 12:56 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Hey, behind this goblin is another one hiding. You can see it, cause they are not synchronized. When the first one goes dwon, the other one can be visible for a short period of time. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="8)" title="Cool"></div> <div id="sig179181" class="signature"><a href="http://wesnoth.org/wiki/User:Kshinji" class="postlink">User:Kshinji</a><br> Probably there's no point for me posting here, but i'll raise my PC to 1337 before leaving again ;P -- just kidding.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p179185" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile179185"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=306&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">Darth Fool</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Retired Developer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=306&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">2633</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 22nd, 2004, 11:22 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> An Earl's Roadstead</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content179185"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=179185&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179185"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=179185&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=179185&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179185" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=306&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">Darth Fool</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-31T01:06:43+00:00">August 31st, 2006, 1:06 am</time> </p> <div class="content">I think that the units shouldn't do much bobbing when standing, only capes and flags. my $0.02</div> <div id="sig179185" class="signature"><span style="font-size:75%;line-height:116%"><br> "<em class="text-italics">you can already do that with WML</em>"<br> Fight Creeeping Biggerism!<br> <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=131760#131760" class="postlink">http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic. ... 760#131760</a><br> <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11358#11358" class="postlink">http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic. ... 1358#11358</a><br> </span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p179189" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile179189"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102830&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Dragon Master</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102830&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">1012</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 11th, 2006, 1:04 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Somewhere</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content179189"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=179189&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179189"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=179189&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=179189&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179189" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102830&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Dragon Master</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-31T01:26:18+00:00">August 31st, 2006, 1:26 am</time> </p> <div class="content">I agree, maybe make the only things moving be the ones that can be affected by wind or an almost unnoticable bobbing. If we do get to making small personalized unit moves, like sword spinning or such, I've got loads of ideas <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p179192" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile179192"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102474&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">kshinji</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102474&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">649</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 21st, 2005, 7:24 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Gdansk, Poland</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content179192"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=179192&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179192"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=179192&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=179192&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179192" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102474&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">kshinji</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-31T01:29:13+00:00">August 31st, 2006, 1:29 am</time> </p> <div class="content">I dont like idea of all my army shaking up and down like a f**** jelly. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad"></div> <div id="sig179192" class="signature"><a href="http://wesnoth.org/wiki/User:Kshinji" class="postlink">User:Kshinji</a><br> Probably there's no point for me posting here, but i'll raise my PC to 1337 before leaving again ;P -- just kidding.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p179193" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile179193"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102830&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Dragon Master</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102830&sr=posts&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe">1012</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 11th, 2006, 1:04 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Somewhere</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content179193"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=179193&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179193"></a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=179193&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=179193&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe#p179193" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102830&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="username">Dragon Master</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-31T01:32:25+00:00">August 31st, 2006, 1:32 am</time> </p> <div class="content">that is true to, it may be a bit early, but I think each unit should not bob up and down per se. Some units could do foot fires (please ask for explanantion if you don't know) or bob from side to side like they're transfering their weight from one leg to another. Maybe make certain units sit down/meditate/rest when they aren't selected. Units that stretch when they aren't doing anything would be neat too.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./posting.php?mode=reply&t=12787&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./viewtopic.php?t=12787&sid=8aa074534088b3e08b57cda51cbe7afe"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button button-secondary dropdown-trigger dropdown-select"> <i class="icon fa-sort-amount-asc fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="caret"><i class="icon fa-sort-down fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i></span> </span> <div class="dropdown 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