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Can we have some more on when work started in the field (<i>Parry</i> springs to mind) and what advances have been made recently ? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_Ross" title="User:Derek Ross">Derek Ross</a> 23:43 25 May 2003 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Organization-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Organization&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Organization&quot;}--><h2 id="Organization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Organization-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Organization-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z"></span>Organization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Organization-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Organization"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Organization-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization","timestamp":"2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Organization-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Organization&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Organization&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization"></span>I have prepared a project on this topic a few months ago, so I did a bit of research on the current papers. I have a lot of information of this topic, especially on recognizing affect and I will share the best of it, as the article lacks detailed information. What I could offer best fits in the technologies of affective computing section. I have already placed some info there, in the Physiological monitoring and Speech affect sections, and I have some more. However, a lot of sub-topics have been formed and I don't like the layout. Do you have any suggestions? Could you organize it a bit? Thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:S33us00n&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:S33us00n (page does not exist)">S33us00n</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S33us00n" title="User talk:S33us00n">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z","author":"S33us00n","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S33us00n-2011-09-04T09:00:00.000Z-Organization"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Quality_of_article-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article&quot;,&quot;c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Quality of article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Quality of article&quot;}--><h2 id="Quality_of_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quality_of_article-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quality_of_article-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z"></span>Quality of article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quality_of_article-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Quality of article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Quality_of_article-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article","c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article","timestamp":"2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Quality_of_article-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article&quot;,&quot;c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Quality of article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Quality of article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"></span>This article is barely readable. Although the content is interesting and largely irrefutable it is terribly written. May I suggest a rehaul of the grammatical mistakes? </p> <dl><dd>I've started, but I don't understand enough of the field to get right through it. It looks as though it has been translated from Japanese or something. <a href="/wiki/User:Myopic_Bookworm" title="User:Myopic Bookworm">Myopic Bookworm</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Myopic Bookworm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Myopic_Bookworm-2006-10-02T11:15:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"></span>PS The article needs to be prevented from heading off into more general issues of emotional research.</dd></dl> <p>Agreed the quality of expression leaves something to be desired, but it does have a distinct advantage over a lot of other articles I read on Wiki: right near the start it gives a link to a full PDF of a seminal academic paper on the subject. <i>And the link works!</i> That the paper is by the leading author in the area can be independently confirmed, thus the article gave me precisely what I wanted - a short-cut to the conceptual basis of the subject, without having to wade through hundreds of derivative papers on Google Scholar. So the authors do deserve <i>some</i> credit. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wally_Tharg" title="User:Wally Tharg">Wally Tharg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wally_Tharg" title="User talk:Wally Tharg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z","author":"Wally Tharg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wally_Tharg-2010-03-06T10:00:00.000Z-Quality_of_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Why_Affect?-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Why Affect?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Why Affect?&quot;}--><h2 id="Why_Affect?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_Affect?-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"><span id="Why_Affect.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_Affect?-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"></span>Why Affect?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_Affect?-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Why Affect?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Why_Affect?-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Why_Affect?-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Why Affect?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Why Affect?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?"></span>I have only recently stumbled upon the arena labelled as 'Affective Computing'. As a social scientist the term 'Affect' has a specific set of meanings denoted by a particular philosophical literature. It seems to me that what is presented in this article presupposes a conflation of 'affect' with 'emotion', which is rather contentious. What I have included below is some of my own grappling with the idea of 'affect', edited from a Masters degree dissertation [Kinsley S (2006) 'An End of Cyberspace? Metaphor, Affect &amp; Socio-technical relations' unpublished: University of Bristol] in the hope that it offers some sort of inroad into reflecting on how or why one might use affect. I would certainly encourage all those taking 'Affective Computing' forward to consider the literature I touch upon. Furthermore, given these points, should those interested in such an arena of research consider alternative titles such as: 'Emotive Computing' or 'Preceptive Computing'? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Samkinsley" title="User:Samkinsley"> Sam Kinsley</a> 6th Novembe 2006 12:05 GMT </p> <hr/> <p>A gamut of understandings of affect can be traced across various disciplines, from social psychology and studies of cognition to continental philosophy (for a review see Thrift, 2004). The implicit danger to be recognised in any discussion of affect is a confusion or simplification to ideas of emotion, a criticism that might be levelled here. Prominent amongst theorisations of affect is the work of philosopher Gilles Deleuze who develops the ideas of Baruch de Spinoza (see: Deleuze, 1988). </p><p>To productively follow this line of conceptualisation, we should commence from an understanding of experience as trans-subjective, in which, according to Deleuze &amp; Guattari (1988: 180), ‘there is no longer a self’ and bodies vacillate like ‘a glowing fog [...] that has affects and experiences ovements and speeds’ (Ibid.). We can therefore understand affect as a pre-cognitive and impersonal capacity. Experience, according to (Deleuze &amp; Guattari, 1994), can be understood in terms of ‘affects’, the pre-cognitive and perhaps involuntary recoil from a strong odour or the leap of the heart when faced with an attractive man or woman, and ‘percepts’, the odour itself or the appearance of the body. Affect, Thrift (2004: 60) suggests, can thus be understood ‘...as a form of thinking, often indirect and non-reflective, it is true, but thinking all the same’. Further: </p><p>‘...if you define bodies and thoughts as capacities for affecting and being affected, many things change. You will define an animal, or a human being not by its form, its organs, and its functions, and not as a subject either; you will define it by the affects of which it is capable’ (Deleuze, 1988: 124). </p><p>Do we need ‘affect’ to conceptualise our experience of the world? Indubitably, given that, to paraphrase Hamlet, there are more things in this world than can be understood, represented or conceived of consciously. Our relations are often motivated pre-cognitively and affect, therefore, provides a means of theoretically articulating such motivations. </p><p><b>Some references</b>: </p><p>Deleuze G (1988) Spinoza: Practical Philosophy, Hurley R (trans.) San Francisco, CA: City Light Books </p><p>Deleuze G &amp; Guattari F (1994) What is Philosophy? Tomlinson H &amp; Burchell G (trans.) London: Verso </p><p>Deleuze G &amp; Guattari F (1988) A Thousand Plateaus, Massumi B (trans.) 2004 edition, London: Continuum </p><p>Massumi B (2002) Parables for the virtual: Movement, affect, sensation, Durham, NC: Duke University Press </p><p>Thrift N (2004) “Intensities of feeling: Towards a spatial politics of affect”, Geografiska Annaler 86 B (1): pp. 57-78 </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Sam, this article conflates affect and emotion in a way that the academic study of affective computing does not. Affective computing is concerned with human response in the Deleuze &amp; Guattari sense you mention above rather than with emotion as the article seems to indicate, but it is a common simplification for introductory lectures or popular articles on the subject. If you can improve this article to make the difference clear in a way that won't confuse those who are new to the concepts, that would be great! --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SiobhanHansa" title="User talk:SiobhanHansa">Siobhan Hansa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z","author":"SiobhanHansa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?","replies":["c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z-Why_Affect?"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"></span>Siobhan, thank you for your quick response! I am not sure I am the best person to edit this page. The above quick discussion is a rather hackneyed version of a section of my own Masters dissertation and certainly to brief to address the broader discussion that would be necessary of Affect given the application to computing. Whilst this is a fascinating concept, and one that is close to my research interest, I am still a little confused by calling the arena of study 'affective computing'. Firstly, it seems to me that there is a wider conflation of 'affect' and 'emotion' outside of this article, for example: 'Affective Computing is computing that relates to, arises from, or deliberately influences emotions.' <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://affect.media.mit.edu/">MIT Media Lab Affective Computing Group</a>. Beyond this, a Deleuzian reading of affect might sugest that you cannot empirically access affects in and of themselves, only the resultant perceptual cognition(s), examples such as this are why I suggested a revised title. I would be very interested to hear from an 'Affective Computing' researcher on this. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Samkinsley" title="User:Samkinsley"> Sam Kinsley</a> 6th November 2006 17:24 GMT</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I didn't mean to imply that there is a direct equivalence between the use of affect in comp sci and affect in social science. Just that - though emotion is frequently used as though it were interchangeable with affect, affective computing looks at response in a broader sense than the definition of emotion that you are using here. It may be worth remembering that many fields have slightly different understandings of similar concepts because the desired outcomes from study and the presures within the fields are different. That doesn't mean it's not worth considering what other fields have to offfer, but to go from that to a suggestion that one field should change its name because it doesn't adhere to another field's definition of a term is a little parochial. --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SiobhanHansa" title="User talk:SiobhanHansa">Siobhan Hansa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z","author":"SiobhanHansa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T13:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z"></span>All very good points. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to suggest I was espousing a peculiar parochial one-up-manship, rather I am simply asking: Why use the term 'Affect' in this case? As I suggested in my first section above there are many disciplinary takes on 'Affect', I am confused as to how 'Affective Computing' needs 'Affect' rather than 'emotion', which would be equally as worthy a subject of study - just different. I hope that clarifies my concerns - I certainly do not want to claim a peculiar disciplinary authority or preclude any perspective from an interesting and reasonable discussion :-) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Samkinsley" title="User:Samkinsley"> Sam Kinsley</a> 7th November 2006 12:08 GMT</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Perhaps I was being a little defensive. I disagree that affective computing is simply about emotion. While there is a lot emphasis placed on emotion as a describer of what people are trying to achieve, the reality is computers can't read emotions or hold them. They can read things like whether someone types faster, or squeezes a mouse harder, or uses more negative or more positive words. Computers can behave in one way rather than another - respond faster or slower to users, use different colors, words or graphics, or bring up different information. But beyond these types of indicators (and ways to manipulate them), affective computing also looks at things like motive (how do you understand what a user's motive is, or how do you give a computer motive). Although none of these things are simply about emotion (or perception), emotion is frequently used as a shorthand in this sort of situation.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I don't think I'm doing a good job of making a case for supporting the use of affect over emotion to you. Perhaps because I have less understanding of your own field and the language you use than I need. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://affect.unige.ch/">The Swiss Center for Affective Sciences</a> describes what I consider to be affective computing's approach and places it within a broader academic constiuency. It might be useful to you in understanding how other branches of academia are conceptualizing this aspect of human behavior. --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SiobhanHansa" title="User talk:SiobhanHansa">Siobhan Hansa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z","author":"SiobhanHansa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-10T17:11:00.000Z-SiobhanHansa-2006-11-06T18:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Dubious_tag-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Dubious tag&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Dubious tag&quot;}--><h2 id="Dubious_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dubious_tag-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dubious_tag-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z"></span>Dubious tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dubious_tag-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Dubious tag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Dubious_tag-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag","timestamp":"2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Dubious_tag-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Dubious tag&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Dubious tag&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag"></span>I deleted this: </p> <blockquote><p>(see <a href="/wiki/Strong_AI" class="mw-disambig" title="Strong AI">strong AI</a>). The possession of innate emotion in non-human intellects is primarily a philosophical topic, since <a href="/wiki/Sapience" class="mw-redirect" title="Sapience">sapience</a> is considered a pre-requisite for the ability to process emotions and there are currently no known models of sapiency besides humans.</p></blockquote> <p>Here are my objections: (1) why would <a href="/wiki/Strong_AI" class="mw-disambig" title="Strong AI">strong AI</a> be necessary to process the <a href="/wiki/Semantic_differential" title="Semantic differential">semantic differentials</a> used to model <a href="/wiki/Affect_control_theory" title="Affect control theory">affective meaning</a>? I think you've got the argument backwards: the claim is that <a href="/wiki/Affect_control_theory" title="Affect control theory">affective meaning</a> is necessary for <a href="/wiki/Strong_AI" class="mw-disambig" title="Strong AI">strong AI</a>, not the other way around. (2) It uses the <a href="/wiki/Science_fiction" title="Science fiction">sci fi</a> word "sapience", which is meaningless in this context. Do you mean "<a href="/wiki/Consciousness" title="Consciousness">consciousness</a>"? (which <i>has</i> a meaning for <a href="/wiki/Neurology" title="Neurology">neurology</a> or <a href="/wiki/Philosophy" title="Philosophy">philosophy</a>). Do you mean "intelligence"? Do you mean "<a href="/wiki/Soul" title="Soul">soul</a>"? ---- <a href="/wiki/User:CharlesGillingham" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CharlesGillingham">CharlesGillingham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CharlesGillingham" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:CharlesGillingham">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z","author":"CharlesGillingham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CharlesGillingham-2007-11-17T10:35:00.000Z-Dubious_tag"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Doubtful_history-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history&quot;,&quot;c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Doubtful history&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Doubtful history&quot;}--><h2 id="Doubtful_history" data-mw-thread-id="h-Doubtful_history-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Doubtful_history-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"></span>Doubtful history<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Doubtful_history-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Doubtful history"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Doubtful_history-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history","c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history","timestamp":"2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Doubtful_history-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history&quot;,&quot;c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Doubtful history&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Doubtful history&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"></span>I am extremely doubtful that the field of affective computing started with Rosalind Picard. This sounds like an extreme exaggeration at best.--<a href="/wiki/User:Filll" title="User:Filll">Filll</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filll" title="User talk:Filll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z","author":"Filll","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history","replies":["c-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z","c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"></span>I might also note that it seems to me that these activities were going on in Japan, long before Picard was involved. And maybe at IBM and other places too. So, I have my doubts. Maybe she invented the name. Maybe. But the field? --<a href="/wiki/User:Filll" title="User:Filll">Filll</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filll" title="User talk:Filll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z","author":"Filll","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z","c-195.216.82.210-2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"></span>I invented neurothanopathy. So? <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T02:43:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-195.216.82.210-2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"></span>Funny you FILL the article with "vague" tags and then support this with a vague assumption :) Did you read the PDF? Probably not because it would answer the question. Yes others might have (you didn't show any citations for your statement so I'll have to include the "might" here) done some research in the field before, however she formalized it. Thus the field of affective computing really did start with her. I hope you guys enjoyed mutilating this article. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/195.216.82.210" title="Special:Contributions/195.216.82.210">195.216.82.210</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:195.216.82.210" title="User talk:195.216.82.210">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-195.216.82.210-2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-195.216.82.210-2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z","author":"195.216.82.210","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-195.216.82.210-2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-195.216.82.210-2008-05-06T11:31:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T02:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"></span>Sure. We'll just go by best knowledge, that works fine. Can you cite earlier sources? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:51:00.000Z-Filll-2008-05-06T01:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"></span> I am not an expert in this field. But I do remember reading about this back into the 70s and even into the 60s. And I have a huge number of links I have been going through. If we are going to have an article on this, let's do the best job we can instead of just creating a disgusting inaccurate mess with no references and no sources.--<a href="/wiki/User:Filll" title="User:Filll">Filll</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filll" title="User talk:Filll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z","author":"Filll","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filll-2008-05-07T01:20:00.000Z-Doubtful_history"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pppbbtthhhh-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pppbbtthhhh&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pppbbtthhhh&quot;}--><h2 id="Pppbbtthhhh" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pppbbtthhhh-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pppbbtthhhh-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"></span>Pppbbtthhhh<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pppbbtthhhh-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Pppbbtthhhh"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pppbbtthhhh-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__9__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pppbbtthhhh-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pppbbtthhhh&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pppbbtthhhh&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh"></span>I removed the following because it presupposes much yet proves naught. </p> <dl><dd>===Emotional understanding===</dd> <dd>Emotional understanding refers to the ability of a device not only to detect emotional or affective information, but also to store, process, build and maintain an emotional model of the user. The goal is to understand contextual information about the user and its environment, and formulate an appropriate response. This is difficult because human emotions arise from complex external and internal contexts.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Possible features of a system which displays emotional understanding might be adaptive behavior, for example, avoiding interaction with a user it perceives to be angry. A probable use of such capability would be ensuring data integrity and security.</dd></dl> <p>Sorry, but you've gotta prove this drivel. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z-Pppbbtthhhh"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"></span>&lt;scratches head> What's the problem with it, according to you? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z","c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z","c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T01:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"></span>I already explained, I believe: <i>"Sorry, but you've gotta prove this drivel"</i>. That is to say, id est, it is vague and uncited. Even the title is unclear: is it about understanding emotions or understanding something via the emotions? What <i>precisely</i> does this mean and how is it meant to be accomplished? <i>"A probable use of such capability would be ensuring data integrity and security."</i> <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z"></span>I basically parse the paragraph as follows: The paragraph defines emotional understanding as a (future/projected) capability where a machine will be able to gather enough data to generate an internal model of the emotional state of a human being. It then provides an example where an adverse emotional state in a human operator might lead to loss of data integrity (and detecting such a state can therefore prevent such loss).</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Oh, a cite? Ok, when I have some time to ask some folks to help :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:26:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"></span>Cite it when you can. <i>emotional understanding </i> is a <i>future</i> concept?</dd> <dd>Ah, so we can detect the <i>state</i> of the human operator? What if the person is a <i>con-man</i>? <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z"></span>Apparently it can be worded more solidly still, and someone is looking up a reference for me.</dd> <dd>My apologies for the poor wording. I don't think any computer is currently fully capable of "understanding" human emotions, though it might be possible to program them to do that in future, to some extent. Also, one can actually only detect the state of the computer model, obviously. If the operator is a con-man, the model will be flawed :-P</dd> <dd>Anyway, I have no idea where you're headed with that.</dd> <dd>In the mean time, I'll just ask someone to look up some sources for me, which are more adequately carefully worded. (And in fact, they're already doing so, I told them to take their time :-) )</dd> <dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, strictly these folks seem to stick to Affect (the display of emotion in posture and facial expression), rather than emotion per-se, which is somewhat more easily measurable. But I might be sticking my foot in my mouth, I'm going to wait for proper sourcing, thanks. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:55:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T00:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"></span>Given that not all humans can reliably detect emotions "properly", given that the expression of emotions varies widely, and given that humans program computers, I'd have to think that the odds of a program correctly discerning emotions correctly with absolute certainty, is, well, nil. But, feel free to find sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T13:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z"></span>Given that the odds of <i>anything</i> happening with absolute certainty are nil, that would not be surprising at all. Now as to less than absolute certainty, that's where things get interesting. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-07T14:24:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Tags-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Tags&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Tags&quot;}--><h2 id="Tags" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tags-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tags-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span>Tags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tags-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Tags"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tags-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Tags-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Tags&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Tags&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags"></span>Excessive fact-tagging is considered disruptive. When I have time I'm going to go through this article and remove some of them. There's already a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Inline" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Inline">inline</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> on top. --<span style="font-family:Georgia"><a href="/wiki/User:Relata_refero" title="User:Relata refero">Relata refero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Relata_refero" title="User talk:Relata refero">disp.</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","author":"Relata refero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z-Tags"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span>Excessive use of unsubstantiated claims is non-academic. It is important to show precisely what claims need to be supported. That's the way of Academe, and as Wikipedia has, through the Foundation, expressed a desire to be considered an academic medium we must follow the same strictures. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z"></span>There were so many statements that lacked substantiation that it had to be clear how bad it was. <a href="/wiki/User:Orangemarlin" title="User:Orangemarlin"><span style="color:orange;"><b>Orange</b></span><span style="color:teal;"><b>Marlin</b></span></a> <small><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orangemarlin" title="User talk:Orangemarlin">Talk•</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin" title="Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin">Contributions</a></sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Orangemarlin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z"></span>No. That is actually exactly what article-wide tagging is for. --<span style="font-family:Georgia"><a href="/wiki/User:Relata_refero" title="User:Relata refero">Relata refero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Relata_refero" title="User talk:Relata refero">disp.</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z","author":"Relata refero","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Orangemarlin-2008-05-06T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span>You's think that was obvious, but, apparently not. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z"></span>Meh, see above for why not. --<span style="font-family:Georgia"><a href="/wiki/User:Relata_refero" title="User:Relata refero">Relata refero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Relata_refero" title="User talk:Relata refero">disp.</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z","author":"Relata refero","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T08:49:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span>uh, where? I like specifity.  :) <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z-Relata_refero-2008-05-06T11:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z"></span>Article-wide tagging is generally used for articles that are short of inline citations. See the recent TfD of nofooters for general custom on this. --<span style="font-family:Georgia"><a href="/wiki/User:Relata_refero" title="User:Relata refero">Relata refero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Relata_refero" title="User talk:Relata refero">disp.</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z","author":"Relata refero","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Relata_refero-2008-05-07T10:35:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T10:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???&quot;,&quot;c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???&quot;,&quot;c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Autism, AC and Prostheses???&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Autism, AC and Prostheses???&quot;}--><h2 id="Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"><span id="Autism.2C_AC_and_Prostheses.3F.3F.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Autism, AC and <i>Prostheses</i>???<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Autism, AC and Prostheses???"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???","c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???","c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z","timestamp":"2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???&quot;,&quot;c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???&quot;,&quot;c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Autism, AC and Prostheses???&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Autism, AC and Prostheses???&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"></span>Huh? Prostheses for Autism? <i>"Affective computing is also being applied to the development of prosthetic devices for use in alleviating autism."</i>. Obviously this is meaningless without further explanation. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???","replies":["c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Hmmm. I know an autism specialist who has a prosthetic arm. Does that count? <a href="/wiki/User:Guettarda" title="User:Guettarda">Guettarda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guettarda" title="User talk:Guettarda">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z","author":"Guettarda","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T17:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z"></span>I've read a few things about this work, it's really good, I'd dedicate a section to it. I would suggest that aside from the rather heady philosophical/theoretical world of AI, computers are applied as a communications tool (related to writing), and hence affective computing's chief application should therefore be as a communications device, either enhancing able peoples' capacities to communicate, or to enable people with impairment or disability. Here's a good starting place. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://affect.media.mit.edu/projectpages/esp/">http://affect.media.mit.edu/projectpages/esp/</a> ;-) you see what I mean? :-| ... :-) ––– --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bishopdante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bishopdante (page does not exist)">welcome to the 21st century</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishopdante" title="User talk:Bishopdante">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 11 February 2010 (UTC)</a> bishopdante<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z","author":"Bishopdante","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"welcome to the 21st century"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishopdante-2010-02-11T10:25:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T17:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"></span>Hmmm, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/content/abstract/1093/1/228">[1]</a> (I presume new tools would be "prosthetic" in nature), um, and <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://affect.media.mit.edu/publications.php">[2]</a> from this publication list, several of the 2008 papers look like those describe prosthetics. Does anyone have a science library in the neighborhood to check those? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T20:31:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"></span>We might consider them to be <a href="/wiki/Orthosis" class="mw-redirect" title="Orthosis">orthotic</a> rather than <a href="/wiki/Prosthesis" title="Prosthesis">prosthetic</a> if they are intended to assist or correct brain function rather than replace the brain. (Curiously, I used to have the same argument with <a href="/wiki/Doug_Lenat" class="mw-redirect" title="Doug Lenat">Doug Lenat</a> about <a href="/wiki/Cyc" title="Cyc">Cyc</a>.) <a href="/wiki/User:Bovlb" title="User:Bovlb">Bovlb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bovlb" title="User talk:Bovlb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Bovlb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z","c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z-Autism,_AC_and_Prostheses???"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, one of my daughters is autistic (thus I have a dog in this chase); however, the term prosthetic is mierda del toro. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z"></span>So orthotic is (more) correct? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kim_Bruning" title="User talk:Kim Bruning">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2008-05-06T21:43:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"></span>Uh, are we talking about the same disorder? Orthotic is as incorrect as prosthetic. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-07T09:58:00.000Z-Bovlb-2008-05-06T20:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Second_para_of_lead-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead&quot;,&quot;c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Second para of lead&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Second para of lead&quot;}--><h2 id="Second_para_of_lead" data-mw-thread-id="h-Second_para_of_lead-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Second_para_of_lead-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"></span>Second para of lead<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Second_para_of_lead-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Second para of lead"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Second_para_of_lead-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead","c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead","timestamp":"2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Second_para_of_lead-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead&quot;,&quot;c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Second para of lead&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Second para of lead&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"></span>The second para of the lead says </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Affective Computing is also the title of a textbook on the subject, by Professor Rosalind Picard, published in 1997 by MIT Press.[1] The origins of the field trace back to Picard's 1995 paper on Affective Computing</p></blockquote> <p>Do we really need that in the lead? Aside from the honorifics and the publication data on the book, isn't this more of a hatnote? <a href="/wiki/User:Guettarda" title="User:Guettarda">Guettarda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guettarda" title="User talk:Guettarda">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z","author":"Guettarda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead","replies":["c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"></span>I added "maybe". <a href="/wiki/User:Jim62sch" title="User:Jim62sch"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF2400;">&amp;#0149;Jim</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#F4C430;">62</span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000;">sch&amp;#0149;</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim62sch" title="User talk:Jim62sch">dissera!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z","author":"Jim62sch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"&amp;#0149;Jim62sch&amp;#0149;"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z-Guettarda-2008-05-06T18:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z"></span>I've added two sources which name Picard as the originator of this field, and removed the "maybe". I'm also working on collecting references for other {{fact}} requests, though this may take some time. In my casual reading on this topic, there seems to be nothing blatantly wrong (several references to both autism and "toys" in the literature, for example), so please be patient. <a href="/wiki/User:ATren" title="User:ATren">ATren</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ATren" title="User talk:ATren">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z","author":"ATren","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z-Jim62sch-2008-05-06T21:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z"></span>The sources I glanced mainly cite her 1997 book as the main contribution, not the 1995 tech report? What is your impression? <a href="/wiki/User:Merzul" title="User:Merzul">Merzul</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Merzul" title="User talk:Merzul">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z","author":"Merzul","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T14:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z"></span>I don't know - the two sources I cited seemed to be in conflict: Wired said it was the book, but the other (academic) source said it was the tech paper. They're both named "Affective Computing" so perhaps the book was an expansion of the paper? The paper came earlier, and it is cited by others, so perhaps that should be stated as the true origin. But it seems like a minor issue to me, since both are Picard's works anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:ATren" title="User:ATren">ATren</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ATren" title="User talk:ATren">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z","author":"ATren","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z"></span>Maybe just say it originated with the work of Picard? I don't know, and you seem to know much more than me. <a href="/wiki/User:Merzul" title="User:Merzul">Merzul</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Merzul" title="User talk:Merzul">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z","author":"Merzul","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-ATren-2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z-ATren-2008-05-13T20:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ATren-2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z"></span>Actually, I just started researching it yesterday, so I only have a day's worth of expertise over you. :-) I think it's fine to say it originated with the work of Picard, and if I find something more specific and definitive, I'll change it. I plan to work on this article in the coming weeks, to resolve the fact tags. <a href="/wiki/User:ATren" title="User:ATren">ATren</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ATren" title="User talk:ATren">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-ATren-2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ATren-2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z","author":"ATren","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-ATren-2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ATren-2008-05-13T21:58:00.000Z-Merzul-2008-05-13T21:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"></span>"emotions in machines might be associated with abstract states associated with progress (or lack of progress) in autonomous learning systems."</i> And it might not. This is really, really speculative. It kind of presupposes that we know the solution to how autonomous learning systems might "think", and might even risk anthropomorphism. I think the article would be fine without this sentence. <a href="/wiki/User:Themusicgod1" title="User:Themusicgod1">Themusicgod1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Themusicgod1" title="User talk:Themusicgod1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z","author":"Themusicgod1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Themusicgod1-2008-07-15T12:39:00.000Z-Second_para_of_lead"></span> </p> <pre>{{subst:aviso FP|Computación afectiva}} </pre> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Arousal_+_\&quot;death\&quot;-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_\&quot;death\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Arousal + \&quot;death\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Arousal + \&quot;death\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z"><span id="Arousal_.2B_.22death.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z"></span>Arousal + "death"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Arousal + &quot;death&quot;"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Arousal_+_\"death\"-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_\"death\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_\"death\"","timestamp":"2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Arousal_+_\&quot;death\&quot;-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_\&quot;death\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Arousal + \&quot;death\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Arousal + \&quot;death\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;"></span>Galvanic skin response was measured throughout gameplay, measuring someone's arousal. Firstly, wouldn't that be measured using a plethysmograph? Also, I'm not actually sure how your player character is supposed to be "killed" in an eroge. Q16168714, anyone? Or am I just not quite fluent in my own birth language? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.14.61.240" title="Special:Contributions/103.14.61.240">103.14.61.240</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:103.14.61.240&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:103.14.61.240 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z","author":"103.14.61.240","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_\"death\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-103.14.61.240-2016-05-27T11:17:00.000Z-Arousal_+_&quot;death&quot;"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=13" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z-External_links_modified"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z-External_links_modified","timestamp":"2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2016-10-05T02:39:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified 2 external links on <a href="/wiki/Affective_computing" title="Affective computing">Affective computing</a>. 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The idea that emotions do not occur in the absence of social interaction seems obviously wrong. It would also be interesting to give an example of some emotion they say is subjective or can't be quantified, because that also doesn't make any sense to me. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z-Interactional_approach" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 31 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z-Interactional_approach"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z","author":"Beland","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z-Interactional_approach","replies":["c-Beland-20241101141600-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z-Interactional_approach"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beland-20241101141600-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z"></span>Resolved; the article now contrasts that with a cognitivist approach. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Beland-20241101141600-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beland-20241101141600-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101141600","author":"Beland","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Beland-20241101141600-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beland-20241101141600-Beland-2017-10-31T19:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Applications-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications&quot;,&quot;c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Applications&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Applications&quot;}--><h2 id="Applications" data-mw-thread-id="h-Applications-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Applications-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Applications<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Applications-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=16" title="Edit section: Applications"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Applications-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications","c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications","timestamp":"2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Applications-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications&quot;,&quot;c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Applications&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Applications&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications"></span>I am trying to add additional applications after reformatting that section, but my first entry (regarding healthcare) keeps getting deleted. There are hundreds of potential applications not listed here, notable and with good sources. Can an editor tell me why my addition was not accepted so I can alter my approach and begin adding more of these in? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kyburg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kyburg (page does not exist)">Kyburg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kyburg#top" title="User talk:Kyburg">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kyburg" title="Special:Contributions/Kyburg">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Kyburg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications","replies":["c-MrOllie-2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z-Applications"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span>The sourcing isn't good enough. First you were using a BPU press release, then you switched to an Opinion column by the CTO of BPU. BPU is trying to develop this technology, so they obviously have a vested interest in promoting it. We should have a source that's unaffiliated with BPU to include content like this here. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-MrOllie-2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z","author":"MrOllie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MrOllie-2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-2019-03-05T17:25:00.000Z-Kyburg-2019-03-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications"></span>Got ya. Thanks for the response, it's helpful! I'll do more digging. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kyburg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kyburg (page does not exist)">Kyburg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kyburg#top" title="User talk:Kyburg">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kyburg" title="Special:Contributions/Kyburg">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Kyburg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kyburg-2019-03-05T21:23:00.000Z-Applications"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Evaluating_some_content-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Evaluating some content&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Evaluating some content&quot;}--><h2 id="Evaluating_some_content" data-mw-thread-id="h-Evaluating_some_content-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Evaluating_some_content-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z"></span>Evaluating some content<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Evaluating_some_content-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=17" title="Edit section: Evaluating some content"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Evaluating_some_content-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content","timestamp":"2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Evaluating_some_content-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Evaluating some content&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Evaluating some content&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content"></span>Hi Wikipedians </p><p>I find this article to be useful and acknowledgeable. It is a great summary of affective computing. But there are still some problems that I want to point out. </p><p>The referenced article is relevant old for academic research, lots of them are older than 2008. This kind of article cannot should users the new progress in the affective computing field which might info the readers of wrong or old ideas. </p><p>And in recent study there are some article point out the emotion can be simulated by RGB principle.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>Best Regards </p> <pre><a href="/wiki/User:CaptainJoseph" title="User:CaptainJoseph">CaptainJoseph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CaptainJoseph" title="User talk:CaptainJoseph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 20 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CaptainJoseph-2020-09-20T18:55:00.000Z-Evaluating_some_content"><span 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.reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">Data mining in emotion color with affective computing</span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jochen_Burghardt-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Simulation-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jochen_Burghardt-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z-Simulation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Simulation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Simulation&quot;}--><h2 id="Simulation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Simulation-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Simulation-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Simulation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Simulation-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a 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If there is another article about this issue, could somebody please provide a link to it? I believe there is some work about e.g. generating image of faces to express a given emotion (used in chatbots), but I can't find any appropriate Wikipedia article. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jochen_Burghardt" title="User:Jochen Burghardt">Jochen Burghardt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jochen_Burghardt" title="User talk:Jochen Burghardt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affective_computing#c-Jochen_Burghardt-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z-Simulation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jochen_Burghardt-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z-Simulation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z","author":"Jochen Burghardt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jochen_Burghardt-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z-Simulation","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jochen_Burghardt-2021-09-12T17:53:00.000Z-Simulation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-PrimeBOT-20230201195400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-India_Education_Program_course_assignment-20230201195400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-PrimeBOT-20230201195400-India_Education_Program_course_assignment&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;India Education Program course assignment&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;India Education Program course assignment&quot;}--><h2 id="India_Education_Program_course_assignment" data-mw-thread-id="h-India_Education_Program_course_assignment-20230201195400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-India_Education_Program_course_assignment-20230201195400"></span>India Education Program course assignment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-India_Education_Program_course_assignment-20230201195400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affective_computing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=19" title="Edit section: India Education Program course assignment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-PrimeBOT-20230201195400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-India_Education_Program_course_assignment-20230201195400","replies":["c-PrimeBOT-20230201195400-India_Education_Program_course_assignment"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PrimeBOT-20230201195400-India_Education_Program_course_assignment","timestamp":"20230201195400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-PrimeBOT-20230201195400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-India_Education_Program_course_assignment-20230201195400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-PrimeBOT-20230201195400-India_Education_Program_course_assignment&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;India Education Program course assignment&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;India Education Program course assignment&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeBOT-20230201195400-India_Education_Program_course_assignment"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png/50px-Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png/75px-Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png/100px-Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png 2x" data-file-width="581" data-file-height="557"/></a></span> This article was the subject of an educational assignment at College Of Engineering Pune supported by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_program/Ambassadors" title="Wikipedia:Education program/Ambassadors">Wikipedia Ambassadors</a> through the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program" title="Wikipedia:India Education Program">India Education Program</a> during the 2011 Q3 term. 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