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for post-1932 American Politics (AP2), climate change, BLP, GMO, or anything else included in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log">WP:Arbitration enforcement log</a>, please be aware that I am PERMANENTLY AWARE - awareness is tattooed on my <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SMirC-ass.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="(_*_)"><img alt="(_*_)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/SMirC-ass.svg/20px-SMirC-ass.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/SMirC-ass.svg/30px-SMirC-ass.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/SMirC-ass.svg/40px-SMirC-ass.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="320"/></a></span> - so there is no need to post another DS alert.</b></p> <p><small><i><b>Point to this notice to CYA.</b></i></small><br/> <small>Get your 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#202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"><span class="anchor" id="Quotes"></span>Atsme has been cited or quoted in the following media outlets:</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><span class="anchor" id="interviews"></span> <big><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90471667/how-wikipedia-volunteers-became-the-webs-best-weapon-against-misinformation">Fast Company</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://slate.com/technology/2019/05/donald-trump-wikipedia-page.html">Slate</a>, the <a href="/wiki/WGBH_(FM)" title="WGBH (FM)">WGBH (FM)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/512646501/innovation-hub">podcast</a> during <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2019/Main_Page">WikiCon2019</a> at MIT where a few Wikipedians were <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wgbh.org/news/science-and-technology/2020/01/10/wikipedias-volunteer-army?fbclid=IwAR3xVSIxOBkBXxj3EqcNGWZPfhtqZOjRGt3k9rYfFQAiEFj1wNJh7n2Vs4M">interviewed</a>, and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://theworld.org/stories/2020-01-16/how-wikipedia-s-volunteer-army-combats-misinformation-post-truth-era">Innovation Hub</a>.</big> <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SMirC-angel.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="0:)"><img alt="0:)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/SMirC-angel.svg/20px-SMirC-angel.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/SMirC-angel.svg/30px-SMirC-angel.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/SMirC-angel.svg/40px-SMirC-angel.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="160" data-file-height="160"/></a></span> </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"><span class="anchor" id="Rhetoric"></span><i><b>Extremist Rhetoric</b></i></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>"What is the lure of extremist rhetoric in democratic controversy? After all, most citizens are not extremists. Part of the lure lies in the fact that it is easier to believe passionately in a value or cause without regard to subtlety, reasoned argument, probabilistic evidence, and vigorously tested scientific theory or fact. Expressions of single-minded visions for solving problems and changing society can make complexity and uncertainty, frustration and regret, all appear to evaporate. Another part of the lure is that having comrades-in-argument is comforting." <small>~Amy Gutman (excerpt from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/20028150?seq=1"><b>The Lure & Dangers of Extremist Rhetoric</b></a>)</small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #eaf3ff;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #eaf3ff;"><span class="anchor" id="Stars"></span><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#000080"><i><b>Reach for the stars, and become one!</b></i></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif/30px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif/45px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif/60px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif 2x" data-file-width="120" data-file-height="120"/></a></span></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: GreenYellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: GreenYellow;"><span class="anchor" id="Optimism"></span><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#000080"><i><b>The Optimist</b></i> </span></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;">If you see your glass as half-empty, pour it into a smaller glass and stop bitching!</div> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: pink;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: pink;"><span class="anchor" id="Media"></span><b>Power of Media</b></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.” <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ifla.org/FR/node/9379">~Malcolm X (1963)</a><br/><br/> "ALGORITHM-RANKED search results and social media news feeds have contributed to the creation of ‘echo chambers’ and ‘filter bubbles’, where people reinforce their beliefs rather than dialogue across differences." ~ <i>World trends in freedom of expression and media development</i>, global report 2017/2018 <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000261065">pg 67 UNESCO.</a> </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: PeachPuff;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: PeachPuff;"><span class="anchor" id="decency"></span><b>Have you no sense of decency?</b></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>We must wear our critical thinking caps, and try not to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svUyYzzv6VI">repeat history</a> as a single incident may parallel various incidents throughout the wide spectrum of politics. </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"><b>Getting an editor blocked or t-banned</b></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>If you get an editor blocked or t-banned for expressing their opinion, then you're not helping to build the encyclopedia. You're destroying it. <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"><small>Atsme</small></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> 15:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)<br/><br/> From expressed opinions giant encyclopedias grow...<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://vimeo.com/38846249#t=59s">"Ball of Fire"</a> (the link <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Darouet&diff=prev&oldid=904287880">originated in a post</a> by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a></span> shared by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EEng">EEng</a></span> in 2019.) 11:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC) </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: GreenYellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: GreenYellow;"><span class="anchor" id="DGG"></span><b>When a few words speak volumes</b></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARCA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARCA">ARCA:</a> As a separate issue, anything that relies on DS will fail. The only way forward is for arb com to directly regulate conduct by removing prejudiced editors and admins, either from an area or from WP, not trying to adopt rules about just how disruptive they can be. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment&diff=prev&oldid=977654884">~DGG</a></p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/News_from_the_WMF" title="Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2020-06-28/News from the WMF">Signpost News from the WMF</a>: Our role is to accurately describe the real world, with the hoped-for result that those wishing to improve it will use the information wisely. Our job is not direct action, except in defense of our right to freely publish. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/News_from_the_WMF&diff=prev&oldid=967109440">~DGG</a> </p></blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:50%; ; color: #202122;background-color: Yellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: Yellow;"><i>Mental Force and the Volitional Brain</i></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>In fact, the belief that our thoughts can influence our actions is so basic to our entire idea of ourselves and our place in nature, and is so essential to our actual functioning in this world, that any suggestion that this idea is false would become plausible only under extremely coercive conditions, such as its incompatibility with basic physics. But no such coercion exists. Contemporary physical theory does allow our experiences, per se, to be truly efficacious and non-reducible: our experiences are elements of the causal structure that do necessary things that nothing else in the theory can do. Thus science, if pursued with sufficient care, demands no cloistering of disciplines, or interpretation as user illusions of the apparent causal effects of our conscious thoughts upon our physical actions. ~ <small>Henry P. Stapp, (May 1999), Physics Division, Berkeley National Laboratory, title="Attention, Intention, and Will in Quantum Physics", published in the <i>Journal of Consciousness Studies</i>, <sup class="reference nowrap"><span title="Page / location: 35">: 35 </span></sup>.</small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="transform:rotate(2deg); float:left"><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/></div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><div class="center" style="width:350px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto"><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:140%;;"><b>We are never sure</b></span><br/><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:115%;;"><b>if a friend's heart is pure</b></span><br/><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:95%;;"><b>because trust is earned</b></span><br/><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:80%;;"><b>and I am concerned</b></span><br/><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:80%;;"><b>that what we know</b></span><br/><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:80%;;"><b>isn't always so.</b></span><br/><span style=";"><a href="/wiki/Template:Burma-shave-notice/doc" title="Template:Burma-shave-notice/doc"><span style="background:#CC0000;color:white;padding:3px;font-size:70%;"><b><u>Burma-shave</u></b></span></a></span></div> <small><sup>~</sup> <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D"><sup>Atsme</sup></span></a></small></div><p><br/> <span class="anchor" id="Soon_pass"></span></p><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg/400px-Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg" decoding="async" width="400" height="197" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg/600px-Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg/800px-Outhouse_in_an_old_west_scene.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3750" data-file-height="1850"/></a><figcaption><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><b>Archives for <i>It Will Soon Pass</i></b></div></figcaption></figure> <p><br/> </p> <figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_(smart_screen)-3580144.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_%28smart_screen%29-3580144.png/400px-How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_%28smart_screen%29-3580144.png" decoding="async" width="400" height="267" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_%28smart_screen%29-3580144.png/600px-How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_%28smart_screen%29-3580144.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_%28smart_screen%29-3580144.png/800px-How_to_slap_someone_throught_the_internet_%28smart_screen%29-3580144.png 2x" data-file-width="4500" data-file-height="3004"/></a><figcaption>Do not disturb. I'm in the middle of important research.</figcaption></figure> <p><br/> </p> <div style="margin: auto; max-width: 46em; box-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><big><big><i><b>Useful Hodgepodge</b></i></big></big></big></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>"It doesn’t make sense to hire smart people and tell them what to do; we hire smart people so they can tell us what to do." </p><p> – Steve Jobs <br/></p><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuw8hxrFBH8">Watch it here.</a></div> </blockquote> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;">PD download links</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Following are a few links to freely download CC0 <a href="/wiki/Public_domain" title="Public domain">(PD)</a> images: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rawpixel.com/category/53/public-domain">Rawpixel various images</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rawpixel.com/search/audubon?sort=curated&freecc0=1&type=all&page=1">Rawpixel Audubon images</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://libguides.bc.edu/findingimages/Copyright">Boston College Libraries</a></li></ul> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: lime;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: lime;">Relaxation</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>I'm leaving <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf5Ll7CdUpI">this</a> link for any editor who may be feeling a little stressed on the job. It has a very calming effect. Relax - enjoy - and once your blood pressure is back where it should be, resume editing. </p> </blockquote> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="background-color:pink; color:;">Making this page mobile friendly outweighs user friendly, or so I'm told.</span> <p><br/><br/> <span class="anchor" id="Science"></span><span style="background-color:turquoise; color:;">“Scientific results are always provisional, susceptible to being overturned by some future experiment or observation. Scientists rarely proclaim an absolute truth or absolute certainty. Uncertainty is inevitable at the frontiers of knowledge.”</span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2015/03/science-doubters-climate-change-vaccinations-gmos/">~ National Geographic Magazine</a> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:yellow; color:;">Atsme's contribution to science:<br/> <i>Life is all about having fun so if you're not living, you're not having any fun.</i> <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D"><sup>Atsme</sup></span></a> <sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>Talk</small></a></sub> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:pink; color:;"><big>The most <s>useful</s> used skill I've discovered for <a href="/wiki/Amazon_Alexa" title="Amazon Alexa">Alexa</a> - <i>Alexa, call me.</i></big><br/> <small>Now, if I can only get it to work with my keys.</small></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:turquoise; color:;"><big><b>Autocorrect has become my worst enema.</b></big></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:yellow; color:;"><small><i>On a sign at a restaurant in Texas:</i></small><br/><big><b>Treat your Mom to a Margarita! You're probably the reason she drinks.</b></big></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:pink; color:;"><i>Research reveals that people who drink heavily are much more likely to experience retrospective memory loss.</i> <br/><big><b>Isn't that why we drink?</b></big></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:yellow; color:;"><big><b>I can fix stupid, but it's gonna hurt.</b></big></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:turquoise; color:;"><big><b>I have never faked a sarcasm in my life!</b></big></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:pink; color:;"><big><b>I'm not insulting you, I’m describing you.</b></big></span> <br/><br/> <span class="anchor" id="Schooling"></span><span style="background-color:yellow; color:;"><big><b>I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.</b></big> <br/><b>(attributed to Mark Twain, but could have been <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/09/25/schooling-vs-education/">Grant Allen)</a></b></span> <br/><br/> <span style="background-color:turquoise; color:;"><big><i>Atsme is not just a writer, she's award winning...she won a place in the psycho ward.</i></big></span> <br/><br/> <span class="anchor" id="Affect"></span><span style="background-color:pink; color:;"><big><i>Ah, the effect of being affected while being affected by the effectiveness of the effect of the affectation of the effector's effective affecting effect. Infective, no?</i></big></span> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03&diff=prev&oldid=207629879">jc37</a> </p> <br/></div></div> <p><br/> </p> <table align="right" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="white-space:wrap; clear: left; margin-top: 0em; margin-bottom: .5em; float: right;padding: .5em 0em 0em 1.4em; background: none;"> <tbody><tr> <td> <table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr> <th>RfA candidate</th> <th>S</th> <th>O</th> <th>N</th> <th>S%</th> <th>Ending (UTC)</th> <th>Time left</th> <th>Dups?</th> <th>Report </th></tr> <tr> <th>RfB candidate</th> <th>S</th> <th>O</th> <th>N</th> <th>S%</th> <th>Ending (UTC)</th> <th>Time left</th> <th>Dups?</th> <th>Report </th></tr></tbody></table><div align="right"> <p><i>No RfXs since 10:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</i>.—<a href="/wiki/User:Cyberbot_I" title="User:Cyberbot I"><sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot I</sup></a><small><sub 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=purge"><span title="Purge this page">purge</span></a></span></li></ul> </div> </div> </div></div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="margin: auto; max-width: 46em; box-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><big><big><i><b>Hodgepodge Central</b></i></big></big></big></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: yellow;">Check the Label</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Make sure your Viagra prescription says <i>Made In the USA</i><br/> You don't want Russia meddling in your erections. </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: lime;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: lime;">The Remodel</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Shortly after a complete remodel of the master bathroom, a sign hung on the door:<br/> </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><b>DO NOT DISTURB</b></big></div> <p><i>I am busy masterbathing in my new tub.</i> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;">The Wisest Man Who Ever Lived</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><span class="anchor" id="Wisest"></span>Dr. Rick Rigsby’s <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://biggeekdad.com/2017/10/wisest-man-ever-met/">commencement address</a>. I hope you will listen to it. </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: pink;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: pink;">When You're Dead</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. All the pain is felt by others.<br/> Same thing happens when you're stupid. </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: yellow;">How Do I Know?</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>I don’t know how much I don’t know because there’s no way to gage how much I don’t know when I don’t know what it is I don’t know, so stop telling me I should've known.<br/> There has to be some merit to "ignorance is bliss" <sup><a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme</span></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">✍🏻</a><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a></sup><br/> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;">Words</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>People who confuse the words "burro" and "burrow" don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: lime;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: lime;">Racism</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Vir Das on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU-zhajzad4">racism</a> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: pink;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: pink;">Realization</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>And then comes the time when you finally realize that you don't know <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcAdwNOfyUQ">shit</a>. <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SMirC-thumbsup.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="yes"><img alt="yes" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/SMirC-thumbsup.svg/20px-SMirC-thumbsup.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/SMirC-thumbsup.svg/30px-SMirC-thumbsup.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/SMirC-thumbsup.svg/40px-SMirC-thumbsup.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="320"/></a></span> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;">Snake in the Bullpen</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><span class="anchor" id="Snake"></span>"I come from an environment where, if you see a snake, you kill it. At GM, if you see a snake, the first thing you do is go hire a consultant on snakes. Then you get a committee on snakes, and then you discuss it for a couple of years. The most likely course of action is -- nothing. You figure, the snake hasn't bitten anybody yet, so you just let him crawl around on the factory floor. We need to build an environment where the first guy who sees the snake kills it." ~<a href="/wiki/Ross_Perot" title="Ross Perot">Ross Perot</a> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: lime;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: lime;">Terms We Use</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>We need to rethink some of the terms we use in the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11lEtj-MuMk">English language</a>. <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SMirC-thumbsup.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="yes"><img alt="yes" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/SMirC-thumbsup.svg/20px-SMirC-thumbsup.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/SMirC-thumbsup.svg/30px-SMirC-thumbsup.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/SMirC-thumbsup.svg/40px-SMirC-thumbsup.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="320"/></a></span> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:43%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;">JB's 5-Step Protocol</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><span class="anchor" id="SJW"></span>Awaken with JB, episode #88, he is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBdnyrzq96s">woke</a>. </p> </blockquote> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="Rookies"></span> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:85%; ; color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;">You Look Like Rookies</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>"I'm sorry, but you two appear to be: treating each other civilly accepting the possibility that your own actions might not have been correct trying to work out the best thing to do for the project without concern for you[r] own egos. I don't know where you people think you are, but you definitely don't understand how WP:AN is supposed to work. Where's the disrespect? The attacking of each other's characters and motives? The entertaining temper tantrums? Please immediately review other threads on this noticeboard, so you can better participate in WP:AN. Right now you look like rookies. I don't do AFD, so I have no opinion on whether to relist or not (couldn't hurt, tho, right?), but that's a good example of what should be going on here; useless babble without any helpful outcome. --barneca (talk) 9:57 pm, 16 September 2008, Tuesday (10 years, 8 months, 12 days ago) (UTC−5)<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=238944505">[1]</a> </p> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="background-color:yellow; color:;"><big>Carrots may be good for your eyes, but booze will double your vision.</big></span><p> <span style="background-color:pink; color:;"><big>To me, "drink responsibly" means don't spill it.</big></span></p></div> <p><br/><br/> </p> <div style="margin: auto; max-width: 46em; box-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><big><i><b>Useful quotes relative to WP:PAG</b></i></big></big></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="Useful_quotes"></span> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;">To say it in WikiVoice, or not?</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><span class="anchor" id="WikiVoice"></span>While this list of sources is really good and does establish "commonly used by reliable sources" I think we should additionally ask ourselves - what added benefit is there to Wikipedia saying it "in our own voice" as against simply reporting in a neutral manner that it is common for his comments to be described as racist. As of this moment, we are engaging in what I think is admirable short-term restraint. We say in the lede "He has a history of making controversial [weasel words] comments." That's fine as far as it goes, because 'controversial comments' is true, and is neither positive nor negative as an evaluation. Sometimes controversial comments are good, sometimes they are bad. Fine. But we are at the same time here being too cautious, I think, in that we fail to inform the reader as to why the comments are controversial. Is he saying things that might be controversial in Iowa like "Gay marriage should be legal" or "Marijuana prohibition has done more harm than good"? No, actually. So I think we should cautiously say something like "He has a history of making comments that have commonly been referred to as racist.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]" Well, maybe 9 footnotes is excessive, but you see my point. We have more than enough to make the point that the reader needs to know, and I think the point is stronger than if we simply say, in our own voice, that he has a history of making racist comments. <br/><small>~Jimbo Wales (talk) 9:57 am, 19 June 2018, Tuesday (19 days ago) (UTC−5)</small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: turquoise;"><span class="anchor" id="BLP"></span>To include it in a BLP, or not?</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>BLPs wherein a subject's work, beliefs or ideologies are perhaps more controversial than the actual subject, should not become focused on bolstering and subsequently refuting the subject's views or theories rather than actually defining the subject. In many cases this may in fact be due to the subject trying to push their own ideas, while others work diligently to refute them, but many such cases involve editors who have no affiliation with the subject other than a personal belief/disbelief in their work. A person's biography is not a good place to debate scientific theory or ideological beliefs; such debates belong in the articles that focus on those topics. For BLPs, it is enough to simply state what their views are and link to the articles which expand on those views. ~ <small><i>(quote by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zaereth">Zaereth</a></span> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=846459141">edited</a> for brevity; <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales">Jimbo Wales</a></span> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=846542845&oldid=846533253">agreed</a> with Zaereth’s explanation.)</i></small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #fee7e6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #fee7e6;"><span class="anchor" id="Politics"></span>Politics, presidents and NPOV</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>I'd like to add that I don't mind a little bit of personal chit-chat here about politics, I'd like to always seek to tie it back to Wikipedia. We have chosen a very tough job: NPOV. Dislike for the President, fear about things that are happening in the world, may make it emotionally harder to remain neutral, but remain neutral we must. I happen to personally think that given the decline in quality of the media across the board (there are still fantastic journalists out there, but overall the landscape isn't great) the best way for us to help the world heal is neutrality.<br/>--<small><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=877468953&diffmode=source">[2]</a> Jimbo Wales (talk)] 3:12 pm, 8 January 2019, Tuesday (UTC−6)</small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: yellow;"><span class="anchor" id="IAR"></span>Deprecated sources & when to IAR</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Jimbo's response to an editor's statement to not cite <a href="/wiki/The_Daily_Mail" class="mw-redirect" title="The Daily Mail">The Daily Mail</a> as a source in articles because it has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSP">deprecated</a>.<br/> "No, that is not true. It is true that the Daily Mail is generally prohibited as a source, but in Wikipedia terminology that does not mean an absolute ban. Exceptions to the general rule can and do exist, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IAR">WP:IAR</a> as well as general common sense in specific circumstances."<br/><small><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=983787149&oldid=983742760">[3]</a>--Jimbo Wales</small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:45%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #d5fdf4;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #d5fdf4;"><span class="anchor" id="NYT"></span>Free thought isn't free anymore</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>“I have no beef with my colleagues, many of whom I admire and are friends,” Sullivan tweeted. “The underlying reasons for the split are pretty self-evident.” But he expressed solidarity with Weiss: “The mob bullied and harassed a young woman for thoughtcrimes. And her editors stood by and watched.” <small><i>(Excerpt from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/business/media/bari-weiss-resignation-new-york-times.html">NYTimes</a>)</i></small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:85%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #eaf3ff;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #eaf3ff;"><span class="anchor" id="Opponent"></span>Writing for the opponent</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>"Writing for the opponent is an important trait of good editors. They must be able to divorce themselves from their own POV so much that they can bend over backwards to aid in the writing of content which documents views they do not like. They must never block the inclusion of content which opposes their own POV or political positions. If they cannot do this, they should recuse themselves from the topic and edit in other areas. Editors who are unwilling or unable to write for the opponent are incapable of truly understanding or abiding by the NPOV policy. As such they will always cause problems." <small><i>(see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_means_neutral_editors,_not_neutral_content" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content">WP:NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content</a>)</i></small> </p> </blockquote> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:85%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #turquoise;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #turquoise;"><span class="anchor" id="liability"></span>Volunteering</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Please be aware that you are legally responsible for all of your contributions, edits, and re-use of Wikimedia content under the laws of the United States of America and other applicable laws (which may include the laws where you live or where you view or edit content). This means it is important that you use caution when posting content. In light of this responsibility, we have some rules about what you cannot post, most of which is either for your own protection or for the protection of other users like yourself. Please keep in mind that the content we host is for general informational purposes only, so if you need expert advice for a particular question (such as medical, legal, or financial issues), you should seek the help of a licensed or qualified professional. We also include other important notices and disclaimers, so please read these Terms of Use in their entirety. <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en"><b>WMF Terms of Use</b></a> </p> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered" style="width:85%; ; color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: #FFFFE6;"><span class="anchor" id="desysop"></span>When to turn in the bit</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=503277835">My views</a> on this are quite simple. An admin telling a user to "grow the fuck up" is absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances and is ground for immediate desysopping. If we care about having a serious, thoughtful, kind, adult and mature community (which I assume was the sentiment behind that unseemly outburst) then we have to model that behavior ourselves as admins. There's a bit of sad irony in behaving in a juvenile and bullying fashion in an attempt to get others to behave better. Bwilkins, I recommend that you turn in your bit and take a break from being an admin for 6 months and then return if you feel you can handle the job in a more responsible fashion.--<a href="/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales" title="User:Jimbo Wales">Jimbo Wales</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#top" title="User talk:Jimbo Wales">talk</a>) 13:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC) </p> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div style="margin: auto; max-width: 45em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><big><big><i><b>What Am I Doing Here...</b></i></big></big></big></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:yellow; color:;">Sometimes the first step toward forgiveness is realizing the other person was born an idiot.</span></big></div><br/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:lightgreen; color:;">Did you ever stop to consider that being equal may hold you back?</span></big></div><br/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:pink; color:;">Do you want to make money from Wikipedia? It's easy! Log out and go to work!</span></big></div><br/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:yellow; color:;">For a lesson in the proper English application of the F-word see:</span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmYsogS6QsE">this video</a></big></div><br/> <p><span class="anchor" id="Conformity"></span> </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:pink; color:;">Is "group think" the academic version of "mob mentality"?</span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3-ljxTRvo">Conformity!</a></big></div><br/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:lightgreen; color:;">Wikipedia: where anyone can edit and enjoy the benefits of income equality.</span></big></div><br/> <span class="anchor" id="Pile-ons"></span><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:pink; color:;">Pile-ons can be <a href="/wiki/Hemorrhoid" title="Hemorrhoid">painful and unattractive</a>, especially at noticeboards.</span></big></div><br/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><span style="background-color:yellow; color:;">At the end of every rainbow is a capitalist with a pot of gold.</span></big></div><br/> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg/250px-TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg" decoding="async" width="250" height="186" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg/375px-TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg/500px-TonyaHarding-NancyKerrigan.jpg 2x" data-file-width="762" data-file-height="566"/></a><figcaption>Back in my day, when athletes took a knee, they took a knee.</figcaption></figure> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg/250px-A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg" decoding="async" width="250" height="174" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg/375px-A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg/500px-A_Meat_Stall_with_the_Holy_Family_Giving_Alms_-_Pieter_Aertsen_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg 2x" data-file-width="6480" data-file-height="4512"/></a><figcaption><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><a href="/wiki/Requests_for_adminship" class="mw-redirect" title="Requests for adminship">RfA</a> archives</div></figcaption></figure> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:40%; ;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="">Sharing health tips with a friend:</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><br/> </p> <ul><li>For better digestion, I drink beer.</li> <li>For appetite loss, I drink white wine.</li> <li>If my blood pressure is too low, I drink red wine.</li> <li>For high blood pressure, I drink scotch.</li> <li>When I have a cold, I drink schnapps.”<br/></li></ul> <dl><dd>My friend asked, “When do you drink water?”<br/></dd> <dd>I replied, “I’ve never been that sick.”</dd></dl> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:40%; ;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="">My medical entrance exam:</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><br/> When I was young, I decided to enroll in medical school. <br/> On the entrance exam, we were asked to unscramble the letters... </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><b>PNEIS</b></div> <p>...to form the name of an important human body part that is most useful when erect. The students who answered <b>SPINE</b> are doctors today, and the rest of us are editing Wikipedia. </p> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div style="margin: auto; max-width: 45em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatleft" style="width:40%; ;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style=""><span class="anchor" id="Worms"></span>Four Worms</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Four worms were placed in 4 separate test tubes:<br/> </p> <ul><li>1st in beer</li> <li>2nd in wine</li> <li>3rd in whiskey</li> <li>4th in mineral water <br/></li></ul> <p>The next day, the teacher shows the results:<br/> </p> <ul><li>The 1st worm in beer - dead.</li> <li>The 2nd in wine - dead.</li> <li>The 3rd in whiskey - dead.</li> <li>The 4th in mineral water - alive and in good health. <br/></li></ul> <p>The teacher asks the class: </p> <ul><li>What did you learn from this experience?<br/></li></ul> <p>A student responds: </p> <ul><li>Whoever drinks beer, wine and whiskey does not have worms.</li></ul> </blockquote> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:40%; ;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="">Wait! There’s more!</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><br/> </p> <ul><li>I know a guy who's addicted to brake fluid. He says he can stop any time.</li></ul> <ul><li>I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.</li></ul> <ul><li>This girl said she recognized me from the vegetarian club, but I'd never met herbivore.</li></ul> </blockquote> </div> <span class="anchor" id="Education"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:40%; ;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="">Atsme's Education</div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><span><video id="mwe_player_0" poster="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm/220px-seek%3D415.021-WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm.jpg" controls="" preload="none" data-mw-tmh="" class="mw-file-element" width="220" height="124" data-durationhint="417" data-mwtitle="WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm" data-mwprovider="wikimediacommons" resource="/wiki/File:WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm"><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm.480p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="480p.vp9.webm" data-width="854" data-height="480"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp8, vorbis"" data-width="1280" data-height="720"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm.720p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="720p.vp9.webm" data-width="1280" data-height="720"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm.240p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="240p.vp9.webm" data-width="426" data-height="240"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm.360p.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp8, vorbis"" data-transcodekey="360p.webm" data-width="640" data-height="360"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/6a/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm/WCNA_2019.webmhd.webm.360p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="360p.vp9.webm" data-width="640" data-height="360"/></video></span><figcaption>I was educated at MIT, then went to Harvard. After that, things got fishy.</figcaption></figure> </blockquote> </div> </div> <p><br/> <br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered letterhead" style="width:35%; border:none;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: transparent; text-align: center;"><span style="color: teal"><i><big><big>If only... </big></big></i></span></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><br/> </p> <ul><li>...sarcasm burned calories.</li> <li>...you knew, you would know.</li> <li>...closed minds came with closed mouths.</li> <li>...mosquitos sucked fat instead of blood.</li> <li>...the good died young, we'd be here forever.</li> <li>...my teeth were as white as my legs.</li> <li>...more people were fluent in silence.</li></ul> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered letterhead" style="width:35%; border:none;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: teal"><i><big><big>When A Grizzly Attacks </big></big></i></span></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>Hiker to park ranger, "Ranger, how does one survive a bear attack?" </p><p>Ranger replies, Easy...remove the "f" from the word "way". </p> <figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png/200px-Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="172" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png/300px-Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png/400px-Wild_grizzly_bear_in_Alaska.png 2x" data-file-width="3000" data-file-height="2573"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hiker responds, "There's no "f" in "way". </p><p>Ranger replies, "Exactly." </p> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1224211176"><div class="quotebox pullquote centered letterhead" style="width:55%; border:none;"> <div class="quotebox-title" style="color: #202122;background-color: transparent; text-align: center;"><span style="color: teal"><i><big><big>Thought Grenades...</big></big></i></span></div> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p><br/> </p> <ul><li>It is much easier to ride a horse in the direction it is going. ~Abraham Lincoln</li></ul> <ul><li>It gets late early out there. ~Yogi Bera</li></ul> <ul><li>There comes a time on Wikipedia when it's important to know when to stop arguing with editors, and simply let them be wrong. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme</span></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">📞</a><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a></sup></li></ul> <ul><li>Nodding the head does not row the boat. — Irish Proverb</li></ul> <ul><li>Make haste slowly. —Kikkoman</li></ul> <ul><li>Be who you are, say what you mean, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. — Bernard Baruch</li></ul> <ul><li>Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." —Randy Pausch</li></ul> <ul><li>I have made this letter longer than usual, because I lack the time to make it short. ~ Blaise Pascal</li></ul> <ul><li>Patience is a virtue. Give karma a chance.</li></ul> <ul><li>I may not be young enough to know everything, but I'm old enough to not believe everything.</li></ul> <ul><li>A tip for longevity: Never believe the impossible can't happen to you.</li></ul> <ul><li>“It is well known that human choices are affected by the way in which a question is phrased.” ~ <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/media/library/decisionbrain">Benedetto de Martino</a></li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Karma.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Karma.jpg/220px-Karma.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="213" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Karma.jpg 1.5x" data-file-width="295" data-file-height="285"/></a><figcaption><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big>Dear Karma, <br/>I have a list of people you missed.</big><br/> <small>Don't sweat it!<br/>Karma's only a bitch if you're one first.</small></div></figcaption></figure> </blockquote> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_Woke_Are_We?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_Woke_Are_We?-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z"><span id="How_Woke_Are_We.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_Woke_Are_We?-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z"></span><span class="anchor" id="Woke"></span>How Woke Are We?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_Woke_Are_We?-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: How Woke Are We?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atsme-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z-How_Woke_Are_We?"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>”The encyclopedia’s reliance on outside sources, primarily newspapers, means it will be only as diverse as the rest of the media—which is to say, not very.” <sup id="cite_ref-Bloomberg_2016_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Bloomberg_2016-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p></blockquote> <ul><li>Re: the above Bloomberg article, "not very" is quite accurate, but I remain cautiously optimistic that once RECENTISM dies down, things will greatly improve.<br/></li></ul> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>"Since decisions are by those who participate in a localized discussion, leaving cedes the decision-making power to those willing to engage in the least logical and sane response. This incentivizes not just obsessive but also belligerent behavior and even harassment, and empowers those privileged with the time and resources to engage in this behavior. Minor quibbles about grammar is one thing, but these techniques are frequently used by political ideologues, ethnic nationalists, and conspiracy theorists. Professor Bryce Peake called this the “hegemony of the asshole consensus.” <span class="anchor" id="hegemony"></span><sup id="cite_ref-Fernandez_2019_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Fernandez_2019-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p></blockquote> <ul><li>No need to elaborate further on that particular quote. Some will be able to relate, whereas others will find it insulting. For more info, see <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia@20">Wikipedia @ 20</a>. You may decide to submit your own essay. <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D"><sup>Atsme</sup></span></a> <sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>Talk</small></a></sub> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Atsme-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z-How_Woke_Are_We?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 23 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atsme-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z-How_Woke_Are_We?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atsme-2019-11-23T14:03:00.000Z-How_Woke_Are_We?"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Putting_things_in_perspective" data-mw-thread-id="h-Putting_things_in_perspective-How_Woke_Are_We?-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Putting_things_in_perspective-How_Woke_Are_We?-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z"></span>Putting things in perspective<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Putting_things_in_perspective-How_Woke_Are_We?-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Putting things in perspective"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinevans123-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z-Putting_things_in_perspective"></span>I was reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRAMBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRAMBAN">Wikipedia:FRAMBAN</a> in an attempt to improve my understanding of what happened. Lo and behold, nestled quietly in one of the comments was a wikilink to the essay, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_does_not_need_you" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia does not need you">Wikipedia:Wikipedia does not need you</a>. The following paragraph drew my undivided attention: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p> Should it happen that a cabal of admins, operating on the talk page of an article or the lion's den of AN/I, manage to block you on an invented charge, the world will continue to turn. The grass will grow, the birds will lay eggs, the number of Pokémon-related articles will still double every 1.7 weeks, and articles on weathermen will be brought to AfD. Sure, it won't be done as smoothly and as elegantly as when you did it, but it will be done. This encyclopedic project will continue to turn. Sad, but true.</p></blockquote> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D"><sup>Atsme</sup></span></a> <sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>Talk</small></a></sub> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> 05:47, November 30, 2019 </p> <dl><dd>Darn it. Is <a href="/wiki/The_Weather_Girls" title="The Weather Girls">nothing sacred</a>?? <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aZJBLAu1E">... and have we got nooooooos for you!!</a><a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123" title="User talk:Martinevans123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Martinevans123-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z-Putting_things_in_perspective" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 30 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinevans123-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z-Putting_things_in_perspective"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinevans123-2019-11-30T12:23:00.000Z-Putting_things_in_perspective"></span></dd></dl> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid var(--border-color-subtle, #c8ccd1); margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th style="background-color: var(--background-color-interactive, #eaecf0); font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align: left;"><div style="display: inline; font-size: 115%; color: var(--color-base, #202122);">Sources</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="border: solid 1px var(--border-color-subtle, #c8ccd1); padding: 8px; background-color: var(--background-color-base, #fff); color: var(--color-base, #202122);"> <div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title"></p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-Bloomberg_2016-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-Bloomberg_2016_1-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-22/how-woke-is-wikipedia-s-editorial-pool">"Is Wikipedia Woke?"</a>. <i>Bloomberg</i>. 2016-12-22<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">2019-11-23</span></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Bloomberg&rft.atitle=Is+Wikipedia+Woke%3F&rft.date=2016-12-22&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Ffeatures%2F2016-12-22%2Fhow-woke-is-wikipedia-s-editorial-pool&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AAtsme" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-Fernandez_2019-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-Fernandez_2019_2-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFFernandez2019" class="citation journal cs1">Fernandez, Robert (2019-06-02). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikipedia20.pubpub.org/pub/k3lmooje">"The Limits of Volunteerism and the Gatekeepers of Team Encarta · Wikipedia @ 20"</a>. <i>Wikipedia @ 20</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">2019-11-23</span></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Wikipedia+%40+20&rft.atitle=The+Limits+of+Volunteerism+and+the+Gatekeepers+of+Team+Encarta+%C2%B7+Wikipedia+%40+20&rft.date=2019-06-02&rft.aulast=Fernandez&rft.aufirst=Robert&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwikipedia20.pubpub.org%2Fpub%2Fk3lmooje&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AAtsme" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248256098">@media all and (max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery{width:100%!important}}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery{display:table}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery-default{background:transparent;margin-top:4px}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery-center{margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery-left{float:left}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery-right{float:right}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery-none{float:none}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery-collapsible{width:100%}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .title,.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .main,.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .footer{display:table-row}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .title>div{display:table-cell;padding:0 4px 4px;text-align:center;font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .main>div{display:table-cell}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .gallery{line-height:1.35em}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .footer>div{display:table-cell;padding:4px;text-align:right;font-size:85%;line-height:1em}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .title>div *,.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .footer>div *{overflow:visible}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .gallerybox img{background:none!important}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .bordered-images .thumb img{border:solid var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0)1px}.mw-parser-output .mod-gallery .whitebg .thumb{background:var(--background-color-base,#fff)!important}</style><div class="mod-gallery mod-gallery-default mod-gallery-center"><div class="title"><div>Atsme's Photo Gallery</div></div><div class="main"><div><ul class="gallery mw-gallery-traditional nochecker bordered-images whitebg"> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 235px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 230px; height: 250px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ShadowFlowersText.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Life's lessons supported by empirical evidence."><img alt="shadowed vase of artificial flowers" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/ShadowFlowersText.jpg/200px-ShadowFlowersText.jpg" decoding="async" width="200" height="115" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/ShadowFlowersText.jpg/300px-ShadowFlowersText.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/ShadowFlowersText.jpg/400px-ShadowFlowersText.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1079" data-file-height="623"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytext">Life's lessons supported by empirical evidence.</div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 235px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 230px; height: 250px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Spread the love."><img alt="two flamingos head to head with necks heart-shaped" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg/193px-Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg" decoding="async" width="193" height="220" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg/289px-Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg/385px-Flamingo_heart_12-2020.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3159" data-file-height="3608"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytext">Spread the love.</div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 235px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 230px; height: 250px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Moonlit night at Fiery Furnace, a labyrinth of sandstone towers. This picture won 3rd place in the June 2019 Geology Photo challenge."><img alt="A full moon shining between the peaks of two sandstone towers in Arches National Park" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg/146px-Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg" decoding="async" width="146" height="220" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg/220px-Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg/293px-Moonlight_between_the_towers.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2772" data-file-height="4158"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytext">Moonlit night at <a href="/wiki/Fiery_Furnace_(Arches_National_Park)" title="Fiery Furnace (Arches National Park)">Fiery Furnace</a>, a labyrinth of sandstone towers. This picture <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Photo_challenge/2019_-_June_-_Geology/Winners" class="extiw" title="commons:Photo challenge/2019 - June - Geology/Winners">won 3rd place in the June 2019 Geology Photo challenge.</a></div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 235px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 230px; height: 250px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Complaints_take_a_number.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="All's fair in love and war."><img alt="ANI, AN complaints with an image of a hand grenade with a number 1 tag attached to the pull pin, words read "take a number"." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Complaints_take_a_number.jpg/200px-Complaints_take_a_number.jpg" decoding="async" width="200" height="164" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Complaints_take_a_number.jpg/300px-Complaints_take_a_number.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Complaints_take_a_number.jpg/400px-Complaints_take_a_number.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1302" data-file-height="1070"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytext">All's fair in love and war.</div> </li> </ul></div></div></div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment-20241017223200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment-20241017223200"></span>Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment-20241017223200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20241017223200-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Images#rfc_FF70D30" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images"><b>Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images</b> on a "Wikipedia policies and guidelines" request for comment</a>. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">Feedback Request Service</a> subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">removing your name</a>.</small> </p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p> Message delivered to you with love by <a href="/wiki/User:Yapperbot" title="User:Yapperbot">Yapperbot</a> :) | Is this wrong? 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Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Naypta-20241023053000-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20241023053000-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20241023053000-Feedback_request:_Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines_request_for_comment_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard-20241024042100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard-20241024042100"></span>Feedback request: Reliable Source Noticeboard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard-20241024042100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Reliable Source Noticeboard"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Unbiased6969-20241024042100-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard"></span>Hey Atsme, hope all is well. There is a discussion about using sources outside the topic of dogs/animals to cite information about dogs/animals at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSN">WP:RSN</a> here<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Use_of_medical_literature_for_claims_about_relative_incidence_of_dog_attacks_by_breed">[4]</a>. As a member of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DOGS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DOGS">WP:DOGS</a> I figured your input may be valuable to the community given that it has the potential to impact other breed's pages.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Unbiased6969&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Unbiased6969 (page does not exist)">Unbiased6969</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unbiased6969" title="User talk:Unbiased6969">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Unbiased6969-20241024042100-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Unbiased6969-20241024042100-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Unbiased6969-20241024042100-Feedback_request:_Reliable_Source_Noticeboard"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Unbiased6969&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Unbiased6969 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atsme-20241025143700-Unbiased6969-20241024042100"></span>Unbiased6969</a>,I do miss my wikifriends, and teaching at NPP School, but I don't miss the advocacy editors, POV pushers, ANI, drama boards, and all the "meanies" I've had the displeasure of encountering. I appreciate diverse views, but not the POV warriors. Anyway, Justapedia keeps me busy with little time to contribute here. I hope all my wiki colleagues will take the initiative to email me if I don't respond right away to a ping, or comment here on my UTP. Warmest regards! <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"><small>Atsme</small></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Atsme-20241025143700-Unbiased6969-20241024042100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atsme-20241025143700-Unbiased6969-20241024042100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atsme-20241025143700-Unbiased6969-20241024042100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Styling_your_user/talk_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Styling_your_user/talk_pages-20241026161300"><span id="Styling_your_user.2Ftalk_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Styling_your_user/talk_pages-20241026161300"></span>Styling your user/talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Styling_your_user/talk_pages-20241026161300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Styling your user/talk pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FeRDNYC-20241026161300-Styling_your_user/talk_pages"></span>Hey @<a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme">Atsme</a>, I see above that you're busy with life off-wiki of late, I'll try not to take up too much of your time. I was wondering if you'd consider removing the explicit <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-css mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><span class="nt">color</span><span class="o">:</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">black</span></code> / <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-css mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><span class="nt">text-color</span><span class="o">:</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">black</span></code> and equivalent styles from the various <code class="nowrap" style=""><div>...</div></code>s on <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme">User:Atsme</a> and <a class="mw-selflink selflink">User talk:Atsme</a> — they're really messing with the dark-mode chi of the pages. (Lots of black-on-dark-gray text.) Or, if you don't have the time/interest, would you be open to someone else (me) doing so on your behalf? No changes except to preserve the default theme color for foreground text wherever it doesn't need to be explicitly set. (Meaning, anywhere the background color keeps its default theme style.) If you've got everything just how you like it and don't want anyone touching it, that's cool — forget I said anything, and sorry for the interruption! <a href="/wiki/User:FeRDNYC" title="User:FeRDNYC">FeRDNYC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FeRDNYC" title="User talk:FeRDNYC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-FeRDNYC-20241026161300-Styling_your_user/talk_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FeRDNYC-20241026161300-Styling_your_user/talk_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FeRDNYC-20241026161300-Styling_your_user/talk_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atsme-20241026185100-FeRDNYC-20241026161300"></span>Hey, <a href="/wiki/User:FeRDNYC" title="User:FeRDNYC">FeRDNYC</a> - be my guest! And thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"><small>Atsme</small></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Atsme-20241026185100-FeRDNYC-20241026161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atsme-20241026185100-FeRDNYC-20241026161300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atsme-20241026185100-FeRDNYC-20241026161300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfD_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfD_discussion-20241031195100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfD_discussion-20241031195100"></span>AfD discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfD_discussion-20241031195100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: AfD discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hyperbolick-20241031195100-AfD_discussion"></span>Saw your post in the Trump fascism deletion discussion. Were you or somebody with the rights to likewise nominate <a href="/wiki/Age_and_health_concerns_about_Donald_Trump" title="Age and health concerns about Donald Trump">Age and health concerns about Donald Trump</a>, I’d vote on that. <a href="/wiki/User:Hyperbolick" title="User:Hyperbolick">Hyperbolick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hyperbolick" title="User talk:Hyperbolick">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Hyperbolick-20241031195100-AfD_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hyperbolick-20241031195100-AfD_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hyperbolick-20241031195100-AfD_discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atsme-20241031204500-Hyperbolick-20241031195100"></span>Hi, <a href="/wiki/User:Hyperbolick" title="User:Hyperbolick">Hyperbolick</a> - anyone can nominate an article for deletion, so my suggestion is to seek guidance at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">WP:Teahouse</a> if needed. There's a great group of editors willing to help over there. I pretty much steer clear of politically motivated articles beyond commenting in the occasional <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfC">WP:AfC</a> or iVoting in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfD">WP:AfD</a>. I also participate at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">WP:NPP</a> if time permits. I do my best (which isn't perfect) to avoid venting my frustrations about contentious topics and/or politically biased articles here on WP; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia">systemic bias</a>. If you're still curious, just click on "Email this user" in the left side margin under tools so as not to disturb anyone, & send me an email. <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"><small>Atsme</small></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Atsme-20241031204500-Hyperbolick-20241031195100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atsme-20241031204500-Hyperbolick-20241031195100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atsme-20241031204500-Hyperbolick-20241031195100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Death_of_Linnea_Mills" data-mw-thread-id="h-Death_of_Linnea_Mills-20241110044800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Death_of_Linnea_Mills-20241110044800"></span><a href="/wiki/Death_of_Linnea_Mills" title="Death of Linnea Mills">Death of Linnea Mills</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Death_of_Linnea_Mills-20241110044800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Death of Linnea Mills"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800-Death_of_Linnea_Mills"></span>Hi Atsme, Hope you are doing OK. I have recently created an article <a href="/wiki/Death_of_Linnea_Mills" title="Death of Linnea Mills">Death of Linnea Mills</a>, which I think may interest you, and you may wish to comment or edit it. Cheers, · · · <a href="/wiki/User:Pbsouthwood" title="User:Pbsouthwood">Peter Southwood</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pbsouthwood" title="User talk:Pbsouthwood"><sup>(talk)</sup></a>: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800-Death_of_Linnea_Mills" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800-Death_of_Linnea_Mills"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800-Death_of_Linnea_Mills"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atsme-20241110131000-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800"></span>Reviewed it, and making a few minor tweaks. I'm loving AI for that very purpose. <a href="/wiki/User:Atsme" title="User:Atsme"><span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"><small>Atsme</small></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Atsme" title="Special:EmailUser/Atsme">📧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atsme#c-Atsme-20241110131000-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atsme-20241110131000-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atsme-20241110131000-Pbsouthwood-20241110044800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002400"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002400-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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