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title="Discussioni utente:Valepert">discussioni</a><b>聽路</b> <a href="/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Valepert" title="Speciale:Contributi/Valepert">contributi</a><b>聽路</b> <a href="/wiki/Speciale:ContributiCancellati/Valepert" title="Speciale:ContributiCancellati/Valepert">cancellati</a><b>聽路</b> <a href="/wiki/Speciale:Registri/move/Valepert" title="Speciale:Registri/move/Valepert">spostamenti</a><b>聽路</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;type=block&amp;page=Utente:Valepert">blocchi</a></span><b>聽路</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/it.wikipedia.org/Valepert">numero di modifiche</a>)<br/> Operazioni da amministratore: <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;type=block&amp;user=Valepert">blocchi</a><b>聽路</b> <a class="external text" 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href="/wiki/Speciale:ContributiCancellati/Fabexplosive" title="Speciale:ContributiCancellati/Fabexplosive">cancellati</a><b>聽路</b> <a href="/wiki/Speciale:Registri/move/Fabexplosive" title="Speciale:Registri/move/Fabexplosive">spostamenti</a><b>聽路</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;type=block&amp;page=Utente:Fabexplosive">blocchi</a></span><b>聽路</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/it.wikipedia.org/Fabexplosive">numero di modifiche</a>)<br/> Operazioni da amministratore: <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;type=block&amp;user=Fabexplosive">blocchi</a><b>聽路</b> <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;type=delete&amp;user=Fabexplosive">cancellazioni</a><b>聽路</b> <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;type=protect&amp;user=Fabexplosive">protezioni</a><b>聽路</b> <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&amp;user=Fabexplosive">tutti i log</a> </p> </div> <p>Siccome rimettevo i babelfish politici tolti dalle mie pagine, Valepert mi ha minacciato conseguenze. Io non ho ceduto al ricatto e ho continuaato. Allora Fabexplosive mi ha bloccato la pagina utente non si sa fino a quando. Possono pure essere state bandite le babelfish (decisione barbara e incivile), ma io non accetto simili comportamenti.--<a href="/wiki/Utente:Francesco_vin" title="Utente:Francesco vin">Francesco vin</a> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z","author":"Francesco vin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dario_vet-2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dario_vet-2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z"></span>francesco, stiamo fortemente sconsigliando babelfish politici dalle pagine utente per una maggior imparzialit脿 degli utenti, valepert in questi casi cancellava le tue modifiche per togliere i babel, fab ha protetto la pagina, come c'猫 scritto come commento per il tuo bene, vale avrebbe usato magari una mano pi霉 pesante, sono fiducioso dell'operato di <b>entrambi</b> i sysop --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Utente:Dario_vet&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Dario vet (la pagina non esiste)">dario ^_^ </a> <i><small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Dario_vet&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Dario vet (la pagina non esiste)">cossa ghe se?</a>)</small></i> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-Dario_vet-2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dario_vet-2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z","author":"Dario vet","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dario_vet-2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"dario ^_^"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dario_vet-2007-04-09T18:55:00.000Z-Francesco_vin-2007-04-09T18:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DracoRoboter-2007-04-09T19:00:00.000Z"></span>Stante che </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r139517313">.mw-parser-output .itwiki-template-citazione{margin-bottom:.5em;font-size:95%;padding-left:2.4em;padding-right:1.2em}.mw-parser-output .itwiki-template-citazione-doppia{display:flex;gap:1.2em}.mw-parser-output .itwiki-template-citazione-doppia>div{width:0;flex:1 1 0}.mw-parser-output .itwiki-template-citazione-footer{padding:0 1.2em 0 0;margin:0}</style><div class="itwiki-template-citazione"> <div class="itwiki-template-citazione-singola"> <p>芦per adesso ti ho protetto la pagina utente, solamente per il tuo bene, ho voluto evitare un ban.禄 </p> </div><p class="itwiki-template-citazione-footer">(<small>--Fabexplosive L'admin col botto 17:23, 21 mar 2007 (CET)</small>)</p></div><p> e che vale evidentemente stava mettendo in pratica un policy decisa e che quindi la segnalazione 猫 l'ennesima sciocchezza da chiudere immediatamente, facciamo che mi indicate dove e come 猫 stata presa questa decisione (non mi ricordo davvero) visto neanche io sono d'accordo con questa campagna iconoclasta? --<a href="/wiki/Utente:DracoRoboter" title="Utente:DracoRoboter">Draco "Pasta d'uomo" Roboter</a> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-DracoRoboter-2007-04-09T19:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DracoRoboter-2007-04-09T19:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T19:00:00.000Z","author":"DracoRoboter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DracoRoboter-2007-04-09T19:00:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Draco \"Pasta d'uomo\" Roboter"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DracoRoboter-2007-04-09T19:00:00.000Z"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span>da <a href="/wiki/Aiuto:Pagina_utente#Cosa_non_mettere_nelle_pagine_e_sotto_pagine_utente" class="mw-redirect" title="Aiuto:Pagina utente">Aiuto:Pagina utente</a>: "<i>si deve evitare di tenere nelle proprie pagine utente contenuti che non sono correlati a Wikipedia, come: [...] opinioni non correlate a Wikipedia</i>". <a href="/wiki/Aiuto:Pagina_utente#Rimozione_di_contenuti" class="mw-redirect" title="Aiuto:Pagina utente">poco sotto</a>: "<i>Se la comunit脿 ti invita a cancellare parte dei contenuti del tuo spazio utente perch茅 ritenuti inappropriati, dovresti provvedere a cancellarli quanto prima</i>".</dd> <dd>stando al {{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Babelkill&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Babelkill (la pagina non esiste)">babelkill</a>}} (che ancora non ha il totale consenso, ma se fosse completamente errato sarebbe gi脿 stato cancellato da un pezzo) "<i>La comunit脿 猫 orientata a bandire determinati babelfish, scritti o immagini contenuti nelle pagine utente e relative sottopagine</i>".</dd></dl> <p>se ho sbagliato mi scuso, ma se leggo in pi霉 posti che buona parte degli utenti di Wikipedia _rifiuta_ gli usi impropri delle pagine utenti, non posso agire (come hanno fatto del resto Sannita e Fabex) per il bene dell'enciclopedia rimuovendo i contenuti impropri? --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Valepert" title="Utente:Valepert">valepert</a> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Valepert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChemicalBit-2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChemicalBit-2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Bloccare e avvisare (che 猫 un intervento di minore gravit脿 che si pu貌, anzi si deve fare quando non 猫 necessario un blocco) un utente che non rispetta le linee guida, 猫 uno dei compiti degli amministratori. Non conosco il caso in questione, ma se la situazione 猫 quella che ha descritto Francesco vin, pi霉 che in "amminsitratori problematici" quei 2 amministraotri andrebbero segnalati in "amministratori efficienti"--<a href="/wiki/Utente:ChemicalBit" title="Utente:ChemicalBit"><b><big>C</big></b>hemical<kbd><b><big>B</big></b>it</kbd></a> - <a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ChemicalBit" title="Discussioni utente:ChemicalBit"><small><b>scrivimi</b></small></a> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-ChemicalBit-2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChemicalBit-2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z","author":"ChemicalBit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ChemicalBit-2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChemicalBit-2007-04-09T19:28:00.000Z-Valepert-2007-04-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Tanto per cominciare <b>questa segnalazione 猫 chiusa</b> per evidente incosistenza. Poi </p> <ul><li>franceschino ha dei babel che effettivamente sarebbero da eliminare in quanto contro qualcosa ed 猫 vivamente invitato dal sottoscritto a toglierli da solo.</li> <li>il babelkill non ha ancora il consenso della comunit脿, e incidentalmente, cos矛 come 猫, non ha il mio consenso (e se la strada giusta 猫 metterlo in cancellazione lo far貌. Lo devo fare?)</li> <li>vale ha evidentemente agito in buona fede e ammesso che abbia sbagliato (ma non concesso) si 猫 gi脿 scusato.</li> <li>io non toglierei il blocco alla pagina sinch猫 la comunit脿 non avr脿 deciso in merito. Userei quella di vin come case study. Dite la vostra qui聽: <a href="/wiki/Discussioni_template:Babelkill" title="Discussioni template:Babelkill">Discussioni_template:Babelkill</a> garzie per l'attenzione.</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/Utente:DracoRoboter" title="Utente:DracoRoboter">Draco "Pasta d'uomo" Roboter</a> </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Bravi Valepert e Fabexplosive, avrei fatto anche io lo stesso. <a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Helios89" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussioni utente:Helios89"><span style="color:orange"><b>Helios</b></span></a> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z","author":"Helios89","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fabexplosive-2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fabexplosive-2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Vin, scusa ma non ho capito bene il perch猫 ci hai messi nei problematici, valepert per un avviso totalmente lecito e me per averti "graziato" e fatto schivare il ban, vorr脿 dire che la prossima volta <span style="text-decoration: underline">bloccher貌 senza esitazione</span>. --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Fabexplosive" title="Utente:Fabexplosive">Fabexplosive</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Fabexplosive" title="Discussioni utente:Fabexplosive"><span style="color: blue">L'admin col botto</span></a></small> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Amministratori_problematici/Valepert_e_Fabexplosive#c-Fabexplosive-2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 9 apr 2007 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fabexplosive-2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z","author":"Fabexplosive","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fabexplosive-2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fabexplosive-2007-04-09T19:32:00.000Z-Helios89-2007-04-09T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DracoRoboter-2007-04-09T19:35:00.000Z"></span>ribadisco <b>Segnalazione chiusa</b>. 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