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undeletion">Undeletion</a></li></ul></div></li> <li><div class="hlist"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">Deletion review</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/delete" title="Special:Log/delete">Deletion log</a></li></ul></div></li> <li><div style="display:inline-block; padding:0.2em 0.4em; line-height:1.2em;"><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_administrators_willing_to_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles" title="Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles">Request a copy of a deleted article</a></div></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading" style="font-size: 110%"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">Articles</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content hlist" style="margin-top:0;padding-top:0;font-size: 110%"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2025_February_20" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 February 20">today</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:AfD_debates" title="Category:AfD debates">all</a> (<a href="/wiki/User:SDZeroBot/AfD_sorting" title="User:SDZeroBot/AfD sorting">sorted</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2025_February_13" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 February 13">closing</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log">log</a></li></ul></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading" style="font-size: 110%"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">Templates and modules</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content hlist" style="margin-top:0;padding-top:0;font-size: 110%"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_20" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 February 20">today</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Templates_for_discussion" title="Category:Templates for discussion">all</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_13" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 February 13">closing</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Holding_cell" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell">holding</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/Archives" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/Archives">log</a></li></ul></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading" style="font-size: 110%"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion">Files</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content hlist" style="margin-top:0;padding-top:0;font-size: 110%"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2025_February_20" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 February 20">today</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_files_for_discussion" title="Category:Wikipedia files for discussion">all</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2025_February_13" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 February 13">closing</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion/Archive">log</a></li></ul></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading" style="font-size: 110%"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">Categories</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content hlist" style="margin-top:0;padding-top:0;font-size: 110%"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_20" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 20">today</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/All_current_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/All current discussions">all</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_for_discussion" title="Category:Categories for discussion">category</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_13" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 13">closing</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Archive_debates" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Archive debates">log</a> </li></ul> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Speedy" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy">speedy</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Working" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working">working</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Working/Manual" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual">manual</a></li></ul></li></ul></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading" style="font-size: 110%"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content hlist" style="margin-top:0;padding-top:0;font-size: 110%"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_20" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 20">today</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Category:Redirects for discussion">all</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_13" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 13">closing</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log">log</a></li></ul></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading" style="font-size: 110%"> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Miscellany</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content hlist" style="margin-top:0;padding-top:0;font-size: 110%;border-bottom:1px solid #aaa;"> <ul><li><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#February_20,_2025">today</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Miscellaneous_pages_for_deletion" title="Category:Miscellaneous pages for 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators" title="Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators">Administrator guidelines</a></li></ul></td></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-navbar"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239400231">.mw-parser-output .navbar{display:inline;font-size:88%;font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .navbar-collapse{float:left;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .navbar-boxtext{word-spacing:0}.mw-parser-output .navbar ul{display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;line-height:inherit}.mw-parser-output .navbar-brackets::before{margin-right:-0.125em;content:"[ "}.mw-parser-output .navbar-brackets::after{margin-left:-0.125em;content:" ]"}.mw-parser-output .navbar li{word-spacing:-0.125em}.mw-parser-output .navbar a>span,.mw-parser-output .navbar a>abbr{text-decoration:inherit}.mw-parser-output .navbar-mini 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debates"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div></td></tr></tbody></table> Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedians" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedians">Wikipedians</a> decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:XFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:XFD">deletion discussion areas</a>. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Administrator">administrator</a> or kept, based on community <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> as evident from the discussion, consistent with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Policy">policy</a>, and with careful judgment of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators#Rough_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators">rough consensus</a> if required. Filtered versions of the page are available at <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion_no_drafts" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no drafts">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no drafts</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion_no_portals" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no portals">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no portals</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion_no_user_pages" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no user pages">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no user pages</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Information_on_the_process" data-mw-thread-id="h-Information_on_the_process">Information on the process</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Front_matter&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Information on the process" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> What may be nominated for deletion here: <dl><dd><ul><li>Pages not covered by other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:XFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:XFD">XFD</a> venues, including pages in these <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NAMESPACE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NAMESPACE">namespaces</a>: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS: (in the unlikely event it ever contains a page that is not a redirect or one of the <a href="/wiki/Category:Manual_of_Style_disambiguation_pages" title="Category:Manual of Style disambiguation pages">6 disambiguation pages</a>), Event: and the various Talk: namespaces</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Userbox" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Userbox">Userboxes</a>, regardless of the namespace</li> <li>Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">XfD</a> venue.</li></ul></dd></dl> Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">Wikipedia:Deletion review</a>, in accordance with Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Undeletion_policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Undeletion policy">undeletion policy</a>. <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Before_nominating_a_page_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Before_nominating_a_page_for_deletion-Information_on_the_process">Before nominating a page for deletion</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Front_matter&action=edit&section=T-2" title="Edit section: Before nominating a page for deletion" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines: <table class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%"> <tbody><tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left">Deleting pages in your own userspace </td> <td> <ul><li>If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Db-userreq" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Db-userreq">db-userreq</a>}} or {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Db-u1" title="Template:Db-u1">db-u1</a>}} if it is a userpage, or {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Db-author" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Db-author">db-author</a>}} or {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Db-g7" title="Template:Db-g7">db-g7</a>}} if it is a draft. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left">Duplications in draftspace? </td> <td> <ul><li>Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SRE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SRE">WP:SRE</a>.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left">Deleting pages in other people's userspace </td> <td> <ul><li>Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Uw-userpage" title="Template:Uw-userpage">subst:Uw-userpage</a>}} ~~~~</code> to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Db-userreq" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Db-userreq">db-userreq</a>}}.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BITE">Take care not to bite newcomers</a> – sometimes using the {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome" title="Template:Welcome">subst:welcome</a>}} or {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeg" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Welcomeg">subst:welcomeg</a>}} template and a pointer to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UP">WP:UP</a> would be best first.</li> <li>Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UP#NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UP">User pages guidelines</a> including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion.</li> <li>User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.</li> <li>Articles that were recently deleted at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">AfD</a> and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">Biographies of living persons</a> that applies to any namespace.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238216509">.mw-parser-output .vanchor>:target~.vanchor-text{background-color:#b1d2ff}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .vanchor>:target~.vanchor-text{background-color:#0f4dc9}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .vanchor>:target~.vanchor-text{background-color:#0f4dc9}}</style>Policies, guidelines and process pages </td> <td> <ul><li>Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point" title="Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point">disruptive</a>, and the ensuing discussions <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Speedy_keep" title="Wikipedia:Speedy keep">closed early</a>. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Historical" title="Template:Historical">historical</a>}} or redirecting it somewhere.</li> <li>Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold">being bold</a> and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left">WikiProjects and their subpages </td> <td> <ul><li>It is generally preferable that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Inactive_WikiProjects" title="Wikipedia:Inactive WikiProjects">inactive WikiProjects</a> not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{<a href="/wiki/Template:WikiProject_status" title="Template:WikiProject status">WikiProject status</a>|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.</li> <li>WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Historical" title="Template:Historical">historical</a>}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UFY">userfication</a>.</li> <li>Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left">Alternatives to deletion </td> <td> <ul><li>Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merge" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Merge">merging</a> the page into another page or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">renaming</a> it, can often resolve problems.</li> <li>Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be <a href="/wiki/Help:Move" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Move">moved</a> and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Db-g6" title="Template:Db-g6">db-g6</a>|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#f0e0ff" align="left">Alternatives to MfD </td> <td> <ul><li>Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">speedy deletion criterion</a>, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.</li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Please_familiarize_yourself_with_the_following_policies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_familiarize_yourself_with_the_following_policies-Information_on_the_process">Please familiarize yourself with the following policies</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Front_matter&action=edit&section=T-3" title="Edit section: Please familiarize yourself with the following policies" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">Wikipedia:Deletion policy</a> – our deletion policy that describes how we delete things by consensus</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Wikipedia:Deletion process</a> – our guidelines on how to list anything for deletion</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Guide to deletion">Wikipedia:Guide to deletion</a> – a how-to guide whose protocols on discussion format and shorthands also apply here</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_namespace" title="Wikipedia:Project namespace">Wikipedia:Project namespace</a> – our guidelines on "Wikipedia" namespace pages</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:User page">Wikipedia:User page</a> – our guidelines on user pages and user subpages</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes" title="Wikipedia:Userboxes">Wikipedia:Userboxes</a> – our guideline on userboxes</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="How_to_list_pages_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_list_pages_for_deletion-Information_on_the_process">How to list pages for deletion</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Front_matter&action=edit&section=T-4" title="Edit section: How to list pages for deletion" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:MFDHOWTO&redirect=no">WP:MFDHOWTO</a></li></ul></div></div> Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}</style> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Instructions on listing pages for deletion:</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted) Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Miscellany_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion">Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion</a> with a notification to a registered user to complete the process. <table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4"> <tbody><tr> <td bgcolor="#ffff99">I. </td> <td><div style="font-size:100%;width:12em;max-width:30%;float:left;margin:2px 0px 2px 0px;border:1px solid #ffcc00;padding:.1em;text-align:center;background-color:#ffff99">Edit PageName:</div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion: <dl><dd><code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Mfd" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Mfd">mfd</a>|1={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}</code> for a second or subsequent nomination use <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Mfdx" title="Template:Mfdx">mfdx</a>|2nd}}</code></dd></dl> or <dl><dd><code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Mfd" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Mfd">mfd</a>|GroupName}}</code> if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.</dd> <dd>If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Transclusion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Transclusion">transcluded</a> page, use <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Mfd-inline" title="Template:Mfd-inline">subst:mfd-inline</a>}}</code> so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.</dd> <dd>Use <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Mfd-inline" title="Template:Mfd-inline">subst:mfd-inline</a>|GroupName}}</code> for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.</dd></dl> <ul><li>Please include in the edit summary the phrase <code>Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]</code> replace <code>PageName</code> with the name of the page that is up for deletion.</li> <li>Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.</li> <li>Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.</li> <li>Save the page</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffcc00">II. </td> <td bgcolor="#f6f6f6"><div style="font-size:100%;width:12em;max-width:30%;float:left;margin:2px 0px 2px 0px;border:1px solid #ffcc00;padding:.1em;text-align:center;background-color:#ffff99">Create its MfD subpage.</div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry" <ul><li>Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.</li> <li>Insert this text:</li></ul> <dl><dd>{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~ replacing <code>Reason...</code> with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.</dd></dl> <ul><li>Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.</li> <li>Please use an edit summary such as <code> Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]</code> replacing <code>PageName</code> with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.</li> <li>If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject">WikiProjects</a> through one or more <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Compact" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Compact">"deletion sorting lists"</a>. Then add a <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Delsort" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Delsort">subst:delsort</a>|<topic>|<signature>}}</code> template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.</li> <li>Save the page.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="orange">III. </td> <td><div style="font-size:100%;width:12em;max-width:30%;float:left;margin:2px 0px 2px 0px;border:1px solid #ffcc00;padding:.1em;text-align:center;background-color:#ffff99">Add a line to MfD.</div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> Follow <big><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=2">this edit link</a></big> and at the top of the list add a line: <dl><dd>{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}} Put the page's name in place of "PageName".</dd></dl> <ul><li>Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like <code>Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]</code> replacing <code>PageName</code> with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.</li> <li>Save the page.</li> <li>If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add</li></ul> <dl><dd>{{priorxfd|PageName}} in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as <code>Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.</code></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li><big>If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page</big>. For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">page history</a> or <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Talk page">talk page</a> of the page and/or use <a href="//toolserver.org/~tim/cgi-bin/contribution-counter" class="extiw" title="tools:~tim/cgi-bin/contribution-counter">TDS' Article Contribution Counter</a> or <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://vs.aka-online.de/wppagehiststat/">Wikipedia Page History Statistics.</a> For your convenience, you may add <blockquote><code>{{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~</code></blockquote> to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as <blockquote><code>Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]</code></blockquote> replacing <code>PageName</code> with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.</li> <li>If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.</li> <li>If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council</a>, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.</li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Administrator_instructions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Administrator_instructions-Information_on_the_process">Administrator instructions</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Front_matter&action=edit&section=T-5" title="Edit section: Administrator instructions" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1158435425">.mw-parser-output .xfd-backlog{font-size:92%;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .xfd-backlog tr td:last-child{font-weight:bold}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .xfd-backlog{width:20em;margin:0 1em 1em 1em}.mw-parser-output .xfd-backlog-right{float:right;margin:0 0 1em 1em;clear:right}.mw-parser-output .xfd-backlog-left{float:left;margin:0 1em 1em 0}}</style> <table class="wikitable xfd-backlog xfd-backlog-right"> <caption>XFD backlog </caption> <tbody><tr> <th scope="col"><abbr title="Venue">V</abbr> </th> <th scope="col">Nov </th> <th scope="col">Dec </th> <th scope="col">Jan </th> <th scope="col">Feb </th> <th scope="col">Total </th></tr> <tr> <th scope="row"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">CfD</a> </th> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>3 </td> <td>25 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion#Discussions_awaiting_closure" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">28</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th scope="row"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">TfD</a> </th> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>1 </td> <td>15 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion#Old_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">16</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th scope="row"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">MfD</a> </th> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#Old_business">0</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th scope="row"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion">FfD</a> </th> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>5 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion#Old_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion">5</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th scope="row"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">RfD</a> </th> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>16 </td> <td>68 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#toc" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">84</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th scope="row"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">AfD</a> </th> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>0 </td> <td>10 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Old_discussions_(open)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">10</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Administrator instructions">here</a>. <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Archived_discussions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archived_discussions-Information_on_the_process">Archived discussions</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Front_matter&action=edit&section=T-6" title="Edit section: Archived discussions" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> A list of archived discussions can be located at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Archived_debates" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates</a>. </div> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Information_on_the_process">1 Information on the process</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Before_nominating_a_page_for_deletion">1.1 Before nominating a page for deletion</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Please_familiarize_yourself_with_the_following_policies">1.2 Please familiarize yourself with the following policies</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion">1.3 How to list pages for deletion</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Administrator_instructions">1.4 Administrator instructions</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Archived_discussions">1.5 Archived discussions</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Current_discussions">2 Current discussions</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-2"><a href="#February_19,_2025">2.1 February 19, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_2farleft">2.1.1 Template:User 2farleft</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar">2.1.2 Draft:Snehasish Sarkar</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film">2.1.3 Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-3"><a href="#February_18,_2025">2.2 February 18, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">2.2.1 MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-4"><a href="#February_17,_2025">2.3 February 17, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan">2.3.1 Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_kwi-1">2.3.2 Template:User kwi-1</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_Mercury">2.3.3 Template:User Mercury</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_Jupiter">2.3.4 Template:User Jupiter</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_ang-5">2.3.5 Template:User ang-5</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis">2.3.6 User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_Iruc-N">2.3.7 Template:User Iruc-N</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_oca">2.3.8 Template:User oca</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_oca-4">2.3.9 Template:User oca-4</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E">2.3.10 Template:User ir-∞</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Template:User_ir-5">2.3.11 Template:User ir-5</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh">2.3.12 Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#February_16,_2025">2.4 February 16, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)">2.4.1 Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P">2.4.2 User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:Twodubjay">2.4.3 User:Twodubjay</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-6"><a href="#February_15,_2025">2.5 February 15, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox">2.5.1 User:Tuur Moens/sandbox</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10">2.5.2 Pages created by MateuszKapicki10</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-7"><a href="#February_14,_2025">2.6 February 14, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry">2.6.1 Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">2.6.2 User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-8"><a href="#February_13,_2025">2.7 February 13, 2025</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">2.7.1 User:Tammylyon/sandbox2</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Portal:Kilgore,_Texas">2.7.2 Portal:Kilgore, Texas</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland">2.7.3 Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#User:Maintenance_script">2.7.4 User:Maintenance script</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Old_business">3 Old business</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Closed_discussions">4 Closed discussions</a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><h2 id="Current_discussions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Current_discussions-20250213052000">Current discussions</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Current discussions" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <dl><dd>Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_19,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_19,_2025-Current_discussions-20250219005100">February 19, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: February 19, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_2farleft" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_2farleft-February_19,_2025-20250219223300"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_2farleft" title="Template:User 2farleft">Template:User 2farleft</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_2farleft&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User 2farleft" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_2farleft" title="Template:User 2farleft">Template:User 2farleft</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_2farleft" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User 2farleft">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_2farleft" title="Template talk:User 2farleft">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_2farleft" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User 2farleft">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_2farleft" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User 2farleft">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_2farleft&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+2farleft">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_2farleft" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User 2farleft">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Userbox in violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE">WP:UBDIVISIVE</a> and seems to indicate a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUNDish</a> mentality. Likely also violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLEMIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLEMIC">WP:POLEMIC</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger">One ping only</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-The_Bushranger-20250219223300-Template:User_2farleft" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Oppose Usesbox expresses an opinion about Wikipedia. It does not express ill-intent or any form of threat, nor does the userbox establish the aspiration for a battle ground. <a href="/wiki/User:Jerium" title="User:Jerium">Jerium</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerium" title="User talk:Jerium">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Jerium-20250219225700-The_Bushranger-20250219223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a>: Please elabarate as to why your reasoning for this userbox would violate the above-policies and guidelines you've referenced, thank you? <a href="/wiki/User:Jerium" title="User:Jerium">Jerium</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerium" title="User talk:Jerium">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Jerium-20250219225900-Jerium-20250219225700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE">WP:UBDIVISIVE</a> is explictly violated. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">Avoid verbs (often followed by the word "that") which may be used to suggest negative comparison and would thus be potentially divisive, such as: believes</q>. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLEMIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLEMIC">WP:POLEMIC</a> is the weakest, it's true, but: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">Very divisive...material not related to encyclopedia editing</q>. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUND</a> follows - users who express this kind of belief tend to edit in a very specific manner that is not conducive with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger">One ping only</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-The_Bushranger-20250219230600-Jerium-20250219225900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a>: But that kind of thought is an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AOBF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AOBF">WP:AOBF</a> assumption, anything can happen, even to those that disagree with the message of the userbox. <a href="/wiki/User:Jerium" title="User:Jerium">Jerium</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerium" title="User talk:Jerium">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Jerium-20250219231100-The_Bushranger-20250219230600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Keep. This is an extremely relevant, important, and sensitive concern or perception, and Wikipedia must not be perceive-able as censoring it.</dd> <dd>Preferably, these concerns should be written up as user-essays, or project-essays if multi-authored. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SmokeyJoe-20250220011500-The_Bushranger-20250219223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Keep per SmokeyJoe. <a href="/wiki/User:SK2242" title="User:SK2242">SK2242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SK2242" title="User talk:SK2242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SK2242-20250220015800-The_Bushranger-20250219223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE">WP:UBDIVISIVE</a> is dead letter, a silly provision. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUND</a> is a behavior pattern and offers no insight into deleting a userbox, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLEMIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLEMIC">WP:POLEMIC</a> is about "very divisive" material, "statements attacking or vilifying groups of editors, persons, or other entities ..." etc., and this is not at that level.—<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alalch_E." title="User talk:Alalch E.">Alalch E.</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Alalch_E.-20250220021400-The_Bushranger-20250219223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete Calling <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE">WP:UBDIVISIVE</a> a "dead letter" presumes the conclusion. It's true if and only if we act as though it's true. I see no fundamental reason why we should do that. The only function of this user box is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVILPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVILPOV">"civil" POV pushing</a>. (And yes, I'd say the same thing about a userbox saying that Wikipedia has gone too far to the right, or that it's too reflexively centrist.) People who want to claim that Wikipedia is "censored" will do so regardless of whether this userbox exists or not. Keeping this userbox on those grounds would be indulging the <a href="/wiki/Sealioning" title="Sealioning">sealions</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:XOR%27easter" title="User:XOR'easter">XOR'easter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XOR%27easter" title="User talk:XOR'easter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-XOR'easter-20250220022000-The_Bushranger-20250219223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Maintaining an opinion on one’s Userpage is not sealioning. It would be sealioning if they kepted posting the opinion on other pages.</dd> <dd>Wikipedia is left-leaning by many measures. The degree is a subjective opinion, and it is ok for editors to express opinions on their Userpage.</dd> <dd>Deletion of others’ opinions is censorship. Especially if it is motivated by dislike of the opinion. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SmokeyJoe-20250220024800-XOR'easter-20250220022000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:48, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policy_writing_is_hard" title="Wikipedia:Policy writing is hard">Wikipedia:Policy writing is hard</a>, and while I commend all efforts, the first approximately half of UBDIVISIVE is legitimate "who comes up with this stuff" material and has got to be the worst Wikipedia guideline. It says to avoid "believes, considers, finds, knows, prefers, thinks, wishes" as "potentially divisive" :)) —<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alalch_E." title="User talk:Alalch E.">Alalch E.</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Alalch_E.-20250220032000-XOR'easter-20250220022000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Delete, obviously violates both the letter and the spirit of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UBDIVISIVE">WP:UBDIVISIVE</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLEMIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLEMIC">WP:POLEMIC</a>; implicitly declaring an intent to push Wikipedia in a particular direction also violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUND</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEND">WP:TEND</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVILPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVILPOV">WP:CIVILPOV</a>. The "free speech" defenses are baffling; the purpose of a user page isn't personal expression, and Wikipedia is not a debate forum. The purpose of a userpage is to support writing an encyclopedia, not self-expression; userboxes that interfere with that have to go. And broadsides against the entire encyclopedia (as well as, implicitly, huge swaths of its editors) certainly violate that principle. Raising narrow, specific issues is reasonable, because it contributes to actual improvements; "the entire encyclopedia needs to be moved more in this ideological direction" is not - it is drawing a line in the sand and engaging it ideological chest-beating. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aquillion" title="User:Aquillion">Aquillion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aquillion" title="User talk:Aquillion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Aquillion-20250220040600-The_Bushranger-20250219223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar-February_19,_2025-20250219194000"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Draft:Snehasish Sarkar">Draft:Snehasish Sarkar</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Draft:Snehasish Sarkar" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Draft:Snehasish Sarkar">Draft:Snehasish Sarkar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Snehasish Sarkar">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Draft talk:Snehasish Sarkar">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Snehasish Sarkar">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Snehasish Sarkar">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3ASnehasish+Sarkar">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Snehasish Sarkar">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Stale failed attempt at autobiography <a href="/wiki/User:Orangemike" title="User:Orangemike">Orange Mike</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orangemike" title="User talk:Orangemike">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Orangemike-20250219194000-Draft:Snehasish_Sarkar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Either ignore and leave for AfC processes, or explain why <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G11" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G11">WP:G11</a> applies. Do not bring promotional autobiographies from draftspace to MfD, that is contrary to the purpose of draftspace in containing the junk.</dd> <dd>This draft was just today undeleted as a G13 REFUND by its author. There is no rush. Give the editor time to read the comments and tags on the draft. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SmokeyJoe-20250220012700-Orangemike-20250219194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film-February_19,_2025-20250219005100"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Draft talk:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3ASpider-Man+4%3A+Fan+Film">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Draft on a non-notable topic with no sources given and none to be found with a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEFORE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEFORE">WP:BEFORE</a>. Previously existed, was repeatedly resubmitted and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chance997&diff=prev&oldid=1276156379">eventually rejected</a>. The creator left a deletion request (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film&oldid=1276220994">link to deleted revision</a>) on this draft yesterday after it was rejected, and it was deleted under G7, but not before they <a href="/wiki/User:Chance997/Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="User:Chance997/Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">copied it to their userspace</a> and ultimately recreated it today. Creator has received many warnings on their talk page about <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chance997&diff=prev&oldid=1276036746">removing AfC templates</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1276155644" title="Special:Diff/1276155644">disruptively resubmitting their draft</a> in ignorance of feedback, and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chance997&diff=prev&oldid=1276246060">other conduct issues</a>, and has ignored all of them while persisting in their behavior and blanking the talk page. At this point their intent to tendentiously resubmit the draft while trying to keep its previous declines and rejection under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RADAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RADAR">WP:RADAR</a> is clear. <ul><li>Also delete: <a href="/wiki/User:Chance997/Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" title="User:Chance997/Spider-Man 4: Fan Film">User:Chance997/Spider-Man 4: Fan Film</a>, creator's userspace fork of this draft <a href="/wiki/User:SilviaASH" title="User:SilviaASH">silviaASH</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilviaASH" title="User talk:SilviaASH">inquire within</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SilviaASH-20250219005100-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete both. Before I Rejected the draft for some reason they blanked it then submitted it again. Anyway delete due to tendentious resubmittion, attempts to remove records of declines and content forking of a topic that has no indication of notability. <a href="/wiki/User:SK2242" title="User:SK2242">SK2242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SK2242" title="User talk:SK2242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SK2242-20250219005600-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete and salt both: I was going to request deletion upon seeing the draft recreated. It appears this user just wanted to erase the history of the draft's submission rejections for a pseudo clean slate. It does not appear to be a notable topic for this encyclopedia, and attempts to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Game_the_system" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Game the system">game the system</a> like this are a waste of other editor's time. <a href="/wiki/User:Trailblazer101" title="User:Trailblazer101">Trailblazer101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trailblazer101" title="User talk:Trailblazer101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Trailblazer101-20250219010700-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The reason I requested the draft to be deleted in the first place is because I made an error in copying the source material and apprehended the fan film and Kickstarter. I should have focused on them instead of, but I'm now focusing my intending on recreating the draft and making it better this time. <a href="/wiki/User:Chance997" title="User:Chance997">Chance997</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chance997" title="User talk:Chance997">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Chance997-20250219011600-Trailblazer101-20250219010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If that's the case, can you supply us with reliable sources with which you intend to improve your draft? <a href="/wiki/User:SilviaASH" title="User:SilviaASH">silviaASH</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilviaASH" title="User talk:SilviaASH">inquire within</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SilviaASH-20250219011700-Chance997-20250219011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes. <a href="/wiki/User:Chance997" title="User:Chance997">Chance997</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chance997" title="User talk:Chance997">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Chance997-20250219013800-SilviaASH-20250219011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Chance, that <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oQo1UbTxU">production vlog</a> from the film's creators that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film&curid=79266090&diff=1276474860&oldid=1276469866">you just added</a> is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Primary" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Primary">primary</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User-generated" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:User-generated">user-generated</a> source- it isn't gonna be good enough for Wikipedia. We need <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Reliable">reliable</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Independent" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Independent">independent</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Secondary" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Secondary">secondary</a> sources that give the topic <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Significant_coverage" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Significant coverage">significant coverage</a> (as opposed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Trivial_mentions" title="Wikipedia:Trivial mentions">trivial mentions</a>). I'm not trying to be mean, but you really don't seem to be understanding what we've all been telling you the whole time that you've been working on this draft. <a href="/wiki/User:SilviaASH" title="User:SilviaASH">silviaASH</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilviaASH" title="User talk:SilviaASH">inquire within</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SilviaASH-20250219014500-Chance997-20250219013800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I will note that the only non-first-party ref presently in the draft, a GeekTyrant article, is mostly a blog-esque/low-tier source consisting of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://geektyrant.com/roster">a volunteer team</a> with minimal editorial oversight, which raises a few eyebrows for me in terms of reliability. Counting the others, which are strictly YouTube user-generated refs, there are no reliable sources to justify an article, and this does not even reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Trailblazer101" title="User:Trailblazer101">Trailblazer101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trailblazer101" title="User talk:Trailblazer101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Trailblazer101-20250219020200-SilviaASH-20250219014500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Comment: Creator <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film&curid=79266090&diff=1276469866&oldid=1276468941">resubmitted the draft</a> shortly after this MfD began, almost certainly to yet another incoming rejection. <a href="/wiki/User:SilviaASH" title="User:SilviaASH">silviaASH</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilviaASH" title="User talk:SilviaASH">inquire within</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SilviaASH-20250219023100-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:31, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment - I have Rejected the draft as an unreleased film that is not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notable</a> under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFF">future film guidelines</a>, which state that unreleased films are seldom notable, only when production itself has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">notable</a>, which it has not been in this case. I do not reject a draft for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notability</a> reasons unless it has previously been submitted and declined. The history shows that this title was rejected, and then deleted on user request and recreated by the user. I cannot construct a good-faith explanation for requesting the deletion of a rejected draft and then recreating the draft. The bad-faith explanation is to remove the record of the rejection. I have rejected this draft as a previously rejected draft. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250219043700-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete All due to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TE">tendentious resubmission</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAME">gaming the system</a>, as explained above. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250219043700-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Do Not Salt in draft space, because that is likely to result in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAMENAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAMENAME">gaming the title</a> to avoid the salting. Consider use of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLEBLACKLIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLEBLACKLIST">Title Blacklist</a> to prevent creation with this title or variants of the title in article space. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250219043700-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I concur with the title blacklist, considering the nature of this situation. <a href="/wiki/User:Trailblazer101" title="User:Trailblazer101">Trailblazer101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trailblazer101" title="User talk:Trailblazer101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Trailblazer101-20250219050400-Robert_McClenon-20250219043700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment - The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TE">tendentious</a> resubmission is a conduct issue calling for conduct action, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MFD">MFD</a> is a content forum. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250219043700-Draft:Spider-Man_4:_Fan_Film-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Mentioning their conduct as part of the justification for the MfD nomination was unavoidable. I was hoping, perhaps naively, that the creation of the MfD in itself would be a wake-up call for them to stop this, but that doesn't seem to have happened. If they attempt to submit the draft again, considering all their ongoing conduct issues, I would say taking their case to ANI is probably justified. <a href="/wiki/User:SilviaASH" title="User:SilviaASH">silviaASH</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilviaASH" title="User talk:SilviaASH">inquire within</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SilviaASH-20250219055600-Robert_McClenon-20250219043700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_18,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_18,_2025-Current_discussions-20250218034200">February 18, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: February 18, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" data-mw-thread-id="h-MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote-February_18,_2025-20250218034200"><a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="Special:EditPage/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="MediaWiki talk:Logentry-rights-autopromote">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="Special:PageHistory/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=MediaWiki%3ALogentry-rights-autopromote">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> The new formatting of the user rights log entries is better than the old formatting. So, this page should be deleted so that the log entries automatically adding "extended confirmed" rights follow the new formatting instead of the old one. <a href="/wiki/User:GTrang" title="User:GTrang">GTrang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GTrang" title="User talk:GTrang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-GTrang-20250218034200-MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Sure, this could likely have been better handled with an edit request. See the new text <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages?prefix=Logentry-rights-autopromote&filter=all&lang=en&limit=50">here</a>. I prefer defaults, the original override was in response to feedback that EC grants shouldn't have been viewed as a "promotion". Both the mass change, and the nature of extended confirmed has changed over time. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">xaosflux</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Xaosflux-20250218104800-GTrang-20250218034200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_17,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_17,_2025-Current_discussions-20250217061400">February 17, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: February 17, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan-February_17,_2025-20250217182800"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" title="Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan">Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" title="Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan">Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Srinivasan_Narasimhan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Srinivasan Narasimhan (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3ASrinivasan+Narasimhan">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Srinivasan Narasimhan">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> This is not about biographic notability, although I don't think he is. A CFO for a red linked company where the draft solely talks about the scandal the firm was involved in. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan&curid=79254091&diff=1276237853&oldid=1276233721">Speedy</a> declined, with which I have no issue - it was borderline and with BLP I err on delete side of borderline. Article is summed up as "As of the latest available information, legal proceedings related to the alleged financial misconduct are ongoing. The case has drawn attention due to its complexity and the significant sums involved, highlighting the challenges of corporate governance and financial oversight in multinational organizations. " So we don't know if there's a confirmed scandal, nor Narasimhan's involvement. IMO, this should neither be an article nor a six month draft. <a href="/wiki/User:Star_Mississippi" title="User:Star Mississippi">Star</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Star_Mississippi" title="User talk:Star Mississippi">Mississippi</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Star_Mississippi-20250217182800-Draft:Srinivasan_Narasimhan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - This is not a draft <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biography of a living person</a> but a rehashing of negative reports about a living person. This is close enough to being a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Attack_page" title="Wikipedia:Attack page">attack page</a> that it should be deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218164700-Star_Mississippi-20250217182800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_kwi-1" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_kwi-1-February_17,_2025-20250217182100"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-1" title="Template:User kwi-1">Template:User kwi-1</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_kwi-1&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User kwi-1" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-1" title="Template:User kwi-1">Template:User kwi-1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_kwi-1" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User kwi-1">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_kwi-1" title="Template talk:User kwi-1">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_kwi-1" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User kwi-1">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_kwi-1" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User kwi-1">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_kwi-1&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+kwi-1">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_kwi-1" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User kwi-1">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> The creator is a troll, so it is likely this is vandalism. Also delete: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-2" title="Template:User kwi-2">Template:User kwi-2</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-3" title="Template:User kwi-3">Template:User kwi-3</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-4" title="Template:User kwi-4">Template:User kwi-4</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-5" title="Template:User kwi-5">Template:User kwi-5</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-0" title="Template:User kwi-0">Template:User kwi-0</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_kwi-N" title="Template:User kwi-N">Template:User kwi-N</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:User_kwi-2" title="Category:User kwi-2">Category:User kwi-2</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:User_kwi-4" title="Category:User kwi-4">Category:User kwi-4</a></li></ul> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217182100-Template:User_kwi-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_Mercury" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_Mercury-February_17,_2025-20250217175500"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_Mercury" title="Template:User Mercury">Template:User Mercury</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_Mercury&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User Mercury" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_Mercury" title="Template:User Mercury">Template:User Mercury</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_Mercury" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User Mercury">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_Mercury" title="Template talk:User Mercury">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_Mercury" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User Mercury">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_Mercury" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User Mercury">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Mercury&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+Mercury">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_Mercury" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User Mercury">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Ten years ago, a troll complete changed the meaning of this userbox, so its usefullness is questionable. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217175500-Template:User_Mercury" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">vandalism</a>, or send to <a href="/wiki/Mercury_(planet)" title="Mercury (planet)">Mercury</a>, or encase in liquid <a href="/wiki/Mercury_(metal)" class="mw-redirect" title="Mercury (metal)">Mercury</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218172300-Janhrach-20250217175500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_Jupiter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_Jupiter-February_17,_2025-20250217175300"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_Jupiter" title="Template:User Jupiter">Template:User Jupiter</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_Jupiter&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User Jupiter" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_Jupiter" title="Template:User Jupiter">Template:User Jupiter</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_Jupiter" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User Jupiter">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_Jupiter" title="Template talk:User Jupiter">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_Jupiter" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User Jupiter">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_Jupiter" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User Jupiter">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Jupiter&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+Jupiter">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_Jupiter" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User Jupiter">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Ten years ago, a troll complete changed the meaning of this userbox, so its usefullness is questionable. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217175300-Template:User_Jupiter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment I assume the nominator is referring to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Jupiter&diff=prev&oldid=647041983">this</a> edit by <a href="/wiki/User:Spc10K" title="User:Spc10K">User:Spc10K</a> in February 2015, which changed the wording from "This user is a member of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Astronomy/Jupiter_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomy/Jupiter task force">Taskforce Jupiter</a>" to "This user is from Jupiter". <a href="/wiki/User:SK2242" title="User:SK2242">SK2242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SK2242" title="User talk:SK2242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SK2242-20250218065200-Janhrach-20250217175300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete - No need to restore to original usage before <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">vandalism</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218171400-Janhrach-20250217175300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_ang-5" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_ang-5-February_17,_2025-20250217175100"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ang-5" title="Template:User ang-5">Template:User ang-5</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_ang-5&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User ang-5" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ang-5" title="Template:User ang-5">Template:User ang-5</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_ang-5" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User ang-5">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_ang-5" title="Template talk:User ang-5">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_ang-5" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User ang-5">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_ang-5" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User ang-5">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_ang-5&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+ang-5">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_ang-5" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User ang-5">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> The creator is a troll, so unless this template is not confirmed to be valid (use correct grammar, etc.), it should be deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217175100-Template:User_ang-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - I don't know whether the originator is a <a href="/wiki/Internet_troll" class="mw-redirect" title="Internet troll">troll</a>, but the user is clearly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHERE">not here to contribute to an encyclopedia</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218170900-Janhrach-20250217175100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis-February_17,_2025-20250217174300"><a href="/wiki/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" title="User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis">User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" title="User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis">User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" title="Special:EditPage/User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" title="Special:PageHistory/User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3ASpc10K%2FOmega+with+diaeresis">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Spc10K/Omega with diaeresis">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Hoax, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_6#Category:User_templates_Iruc_and_all_subcategories" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6#Category:User templates Iruc and all subcategories</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217174300-User:Spc10K/Omega_with_diaeresis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - This seems to have been a hoax eight years ago and still seems to be a hoax. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218170700-Janhrach-20250217174300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_Iruc-N" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_Iruc-N-February_17,_2025-20250217173800"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_Iruc-N" title="Template:User Iruc-N">Template:User Iruc-N</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_Iruc-N&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User Iruc-N" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_Iruc-N" title="Template:User Iruc-N">Template:User Iruc-N</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_Iruc-N" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User Iruc-N">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_Iruc-N" title="Template talk:User Iruc-N">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_Iruc-N" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User Iruc-N">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_Iruc-N" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User Iruc-N">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Iruc-N&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+Iruc-N">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_Iruc-N" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User Iruc-N">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Troll UBX, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_6#Category:User_templates_Iruc_and_all_subcategories" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6#Category:User templates Iruc and all subcategories</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217173800-Template:User_Iruc-N" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Also delete: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-4" title="Template:User ir-4">Template:User ir-4</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-3" title="Template:User ir-3">Template:User ir-3</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-2" title="Template:User ir-2">Template:User ir-2</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-1" title="Template:User ir-1">Template:User ir-1</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-0" title="Template:User ir-0">Template:User ir-0</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir" title="Template:User ir">Template:User ir</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217174100-Janhrach-20250217173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete - Seems to be an elaborate hoax. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218170500-Janhrach-20250217173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete: per nom <a href="/wiki/User:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User:Schützenpanzer">Schützenpanzer</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User talk:Schützenpanzer">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer-20250219200500-Janhrach-20250217173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_oca" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_oca-February_17,_2025-20250217173600"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca" title="Template:User oca">Template:User oca</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_oca&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User oca" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca" title="Template:User oca">Template:User oca</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_oca" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User oca">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_oca" title="Template talk:User oca">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_oca" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User oca">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_oca" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User oca">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_oca&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+oca">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_oca" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User oca">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> The creator seems to be a troll, and it is very probable that this is a troll userbox. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217173600-Template:User_oca" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - More stuff by the same user who is playing around, which is a way of being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHERE">not here to be constructive</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218170000-Janhrach-20250217173600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_oca-4" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_oca-4-February_17,_2025-20250217173500"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-4" title="Template:User oca-4">Template:User oca-4</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_oca-4&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User oca-4" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-4" title="Template:User oca-4">Template:User oca-4</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_oca-4" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User oca-4">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_oca-4" title="Template talk:User oca-4">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_oca-4" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User oca-4">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_oca-4" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User oca-4">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_oca-4&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+oca-4">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_oca-4" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User oca-4">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> The creator seems to be a troll, and it is very probable that this is a troll userbox. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217173500-Template:User_oca-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Also delete: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-5" title="Template:User oca-5">Template:User_oca-5</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-3" title="Template:User oca-3">Template:User_oca-3</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-2" title="Template:User oca-2">Template:User_oca-2</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-1" title="Template:User oca-1">Template:User_oca-1</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-0" title="Template:User oca-0">Template:User_oca-0</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217174000-Janhrach-20250217173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>And also <a href="/wiki/Template:User_oca-%E2%88%9E" title="Template:User oca-∞">Template:User oca-∞</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217174500-Janhrach-20250217173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete - These seem to have been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MADEUP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MADEUP">made up</a> and may be about another fictional language. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218165700-Janhrach-20250217173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete: not a real language <a href="/wiki/User:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User:Schützenpanzer">Schützenpanzer</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User talk:Schützenpanzer">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer-20250219200400-Janhrach-20250217173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_ir-∞" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_ir-∞-February_17,_2025-20250217173400"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Template:User ir-∞">Template:User ir-∞</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User ir-∞" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Template:User ir-∞">Template:User ir-∞</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User ir-∞">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Template talk:User ir-∞">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User ir-∞">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User ir-∞">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+ir-%E2%88%9E">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User ir-∞">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_6#Category:User_templates_Iruc_and_all_subcategories" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6#Category:User templates Iruc and all subcategories</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217173400-Template:User_ir-%E2%88%9E" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - This is not only <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MADEUP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MADEUP">made up</a>, but breaks the rules for language userboxes with an infinity. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218165500-Janhrach-20250217173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete: per nom <a href="/wiki/User:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User:Schützenpanzer">Schützenpanzer</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User talk:Schützenpanzer">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer-20250219200600-Janhrach-20250217173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:User_ir-5" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_ir-5-February_17,_2025-20250217173400"><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-5" title="Template:User ir-5">Template:User ir-5</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_ir-5&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Template:User ir-5" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:User_ir-5" title="Template:User ir-5">Template:User ir-5</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:User_ir-5" title="Special:EditPage/Template:User ir-5">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:User_ir-5" title="Template talk:User ir-5">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:User_ir-5" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:User ir-5">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_ir-5" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User ir-5">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_ir-5&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Template%3AUser+ir-5">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Template:User_ir-5" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User ir-5">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_6#Category:User_templates_Iruc_and_all_subcategories" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 6#Category:User templates Iruc and all subcategories</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250217173400-Template:User_ir-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - Based on the history, this is about a constructed language and appears to have been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MADEUP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MADEUP">made up</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250218165300-Janhrach-20250217173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete: per nom <a href="/wiki/User:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User:Schützenpanzer">Schützenpanzer</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User talk:Schützenpanzer">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer-20250219200600-Janhrach-20250217173400-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh-February_17,_2025-20250217061400"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh">Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh">Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Draft talk:Mohammad Moghiseh">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3AMohammad+Moghiseh">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Mohammad Moghiseh">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Mohammad Moghiseh is already a redirect to <a href="/wiki/2025_assassination_of_Sharia_judges_in_Iran" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran">2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran</a> ansd this draft is going nowhere. <a href="/wiki/User:Flat_Out" title="User:Flat Out">Flat Out</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flat_Out" title="User talk:Flat Out">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Flat_Out-20250217061400-Draft:Mohammad_Moghiseh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Redirect to <a href="/wiki/2025_assassination_of_Iranian_Supreme_Court_judges" title="2025 assassination of Iranian Supreme Court judges">2025 assassination of Iranian Supreme Court judges</a> and lock redirect. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250217153700-Flat_Out-20250217061400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_16,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_16,_2025-Current_discussions-20250216104100">February 16, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: February 16, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)-February_16,_2025-20250217023400"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Draft talk:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3AAlireza+Jadidi+%28musician%29">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Repeatedly resubmitted with no effort made to address concerns, including one post-rejection submission. Draft also seems to be the focus of a sockfarm (master: <a href="/wiki/User:Vikworker8" title="User:Vikworker8">Vikworker8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vikworker8" title="User talk:Vikworker8">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vikworker8" title="Special:Contributions/Vikworker8">contribs</a>)); practically all non-review-related edits are by presumed or confirmed sockpuppets after the initial edits by Vikworker. Note that the edit from 2023 is the draft acceptance for the <a href="/wiki/Alireza_Jadidi" title="Alireza Jadidi">unrelated volleyball player</a> and should not be considered the start date of this particular draft. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250217023400-Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There is also <a href="/wiki/Draft:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi" title="Draft:Alireza—Jadidi">Draft:Alireza—Jadidi</a> and <a href="/wiki/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi" title="Draft:Alireza-Jadidi">Draft:Alireza-Jadidi</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">qcne</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Qcne-20250217091400-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250217023400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete - The only reason that this isn't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G5" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G5">G5</a> is that the puppeteer was blocked after the draft was created. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TE">Tendentiously</a> resubmitted, and being a nuisance about the resubmission. I have reported the last submitter as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUCK">mallard</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250217151100-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250217023400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> Also nominating for deletion: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi" title="Draft:Alireza—Jadidi">Draft:Alireza—Jadidi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Alireza—Jadidi">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi" title="Draft talk:Alireza—Jadidi">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Alireza—Jadidi">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Alireza—Jadidi">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Alireza%E2%80%94Jadidi&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3AAlireza%E2%80%94Jadidi">logs</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi" title="Draft:Alireza-Jadidi">Draft:Alireza-Jadidi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Alireza-Jadidi" title="Draft talk:Alireza-Jadidi">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Alireza-Jadidi">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Alireza-Jadidi&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3AAlireza-Jadidi">logs</a>)</li></ul> <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250217153400-Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_information_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><noscript><img alt="information" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/18px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 19px;" data-mw-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/18px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png" data-alt="information" data-width="18" data-height="19" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/27px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/36px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </a> Note: <a href="/wiki/User:Jamal190009" title="User:Jamal190009">Jamal190009</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jamal190009" title="User talk:Jamal190009">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jamal190009" title="Special:Contributions/Jamal190009">contribs</a>) moved the draft into mainspace while this discussion was ongoing. I've moved it back, with assistance from Writ Keeper. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250218020300-Robert_McClenon-20250217153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hello, I am sorry for this mistake and I apologize to all the editors <a href="/wiki/User:Jamal190009" title="User:Jamal190009">Jamal190009</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jamal190009" title="User talk:Jamal190009">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Jamal190009-20250219233800-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250218020300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P-February_16,_2025-20250216112600"><a href="/wiki/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" title="User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P">User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" title="User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P">User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" title="Special:EditPage/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:BrotherEarth967/Turned P (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" title="Special:PageHistory/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3ABrotherEarth967%2FTurned+P">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BrotherEarth967/Turned P">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Same topic as <a href="/wiki/Turned_P" title="Turned P">Turned P</a>. Both articles started as translations from <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_culbut%C3%A9" class="extiw" title="fr:P culbuté">w:fr:P culbuté</a>, indepently by two different users, this one a year earlier. <a href="/wiki/User:Paradoctor" title="User:Paradoctor">Paradoctor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paradoctor" title="User talk:Paradoctor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Paradoctor-20250216112600-User:BrotherEarth967/Turned_P" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Redirect to <a href="/wiki/Turned_P" title="Turned P">Turned P</a>. Not problematic. Redirection to mainspace seems like the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UCS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UCS">common sense</a> option in the absence of a guideline that is on the point. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250216195300-Paradoctor-20250216112600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:Twodubjay" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Twodubjay-February_16,_2025-20250216104100"><a href="/wiki/User:Twodubjay" title="User:Twodubjay">User:Twodubjay</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Twodubjay&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:Twodubjay" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Twodubjay" title="User:Twodubjay">User:Twodubjay</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:Twodubjay" title="Special:EditPage/User:Twodubjay">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Twodubjay" title="User talk:Twodubjay">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:Twodubjay" title="Special:PageHistory/User:Twodubjay">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Twodubjay" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Twodubjay">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Twodubjay&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3ATwodubjay">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Twodubjay" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Twodubjay">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> The user's only contribution, last edited 2017, delete per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STALEDRAFT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STALEDRAFT">WP:STALEDRAFT</a> #6. Blanking per #3 would require "some potential". This production has had less than 300 views over the past decade, no hope of ever becoming notable. <a href="/wiki/User:Paradoctor" title="User:Paradoctor">Paradoctor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paradoctor" title="User talk:Paradoctor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Paradoctor-20250216104100-User:Twodubjay" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Weak Keep per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STALEDRAFT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STALEDRAFT">the stale draft guidelines</a>, #2. Not problematic. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250216194300-Paradoctor-20250216104100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_15,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_15,_2025-Current_discussions-20250215161900">February 15, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: February 15, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox-February_15,_2025-20250215161900"><a href="/wiki/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" title="User:Tuur Moens/sandbox">User:Tuur Moens/sandbox</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:Tuur Moens/sandbox" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" title="User:Tuur Moens/sandbox">User:Tuur Moens/sandbox</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" title="Special:EditPage/User:Tuur Moens/sandbox">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tuur_Moens/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Tuur Moens/sandbox (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" title="Special:PageHistory/User:Tuur Moens/sandbox">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Tuur Moens/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3ATuur+Moens%2Fsandbox">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tuur Moens/sandbox">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Abandonded BLP autobiography of non-notable musician last edited 2018 <a href="/wiki/User:Paradoctor" title="User:Paradoctor">Paradoctor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paradoctor" title="User talk:Paradoctor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Paradoctor-20250215161900-User:Tuur_Moens/sandbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Keep - None of those are reasons for deletion of a sandbox. — <samp><a href="/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites">Rhododendrites</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></samp> \\ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Rhododendrites-20250215224000-Paradoctor-20250215161900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10-February_15,_2025-20250215211900">Pages created by MateuszKapicki10</h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Pages created by MateuszKapicki10" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:DigitalNoise1/Television_in_Poland" title="User:DigitalNoise1/Television in Poland">User:DigitalNoise1/Television in Poland</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:DigitalNoise1/Television_in_Poland" title="Special:EditPage/User:DigitalNoise1/Television in Poland">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DigitalNoise1/Television_in_Poland&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:DigitalNoise1/Television in Poland (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:DigitalNoise1/Television_in_Poland" title="Special:PageHistory/User:DigitalNoise1/Television in Poland">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:DigitalNoise1/Television_in_Poland" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:DigitalNoise1/Television in Poland">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DigitalNoise1/Television_in_Poland&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3ADigitalNoise1%2FTelevision+in+Poland">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Pages created by MateuszKapicki10">View MfD</a>)</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Andrzej18/Polsat" title="User:Andrzej18/Polsat">User:Andrzej18/Polsat</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:Andrzej18/Polsat" title="Special:EditPage/User:Andrzej18/Polsat">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Andrzej18/Polsat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Andrzej18/Polsat (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:Andrzej18/Polsat" title="Special:PageHistory/User:Andrzej18/Polsat">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Andrzej18/Polsat" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Andrzej18/Polsat">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Andrzej18/Polsat&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3AAndrzej18%2FPolsat">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Pages created by MateuszKapicki10">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Apparently created without knowledge of the editors in whose userspace these pages are. <a href="/wiki/User:Kepler-1229b" title="User:Kepler-1229b">Kepler-1229b</a> has confirmed this for an already deleted page in their userspace. <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Janhrach" title="User talk:Janhrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Janhrach-20250215211900-Pages_created_by_MateuszKapicki10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete per <a href="/wiki/User:Janhrach" title="User:Janhrach">Janhrach</a>; pages appear to consist of portions of copy-pasted articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Kepler-1229b" title="User:Kepler-1229b">🪐Kepler-1229b</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kepler-1229b" title="User talk:Kepler-1229b">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kepler-1229b" title="Special:Contributions/Kepler-1229b">contribs🪐</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Kepler-1229b-20250215214700-Janhrach-20250215211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>See also archived version of page made in my userspace. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://archive.is/Zg357">https://archive.is/Zg357</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kepler-1229b" title="User:Kepler-1229b">🪐Kepler-1229b</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kepler-1229b" title="User talk:Kepler-1229b">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kepler-1229b" title="Special:Contributions/Kepler-1229b">contribs🪐</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Kepler-1229b-20250215215000-Kepler-1229b-20250215214700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Delete per nom. — <a href="/wiki/User:Sundostund" title="User:Sundostund">Sundostund</a> <a href="/wiki/Manu_propria" title="Manu propria">mppria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundostund" title="User talk:Sundostund">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sundostund" title="Special:Contributions/Sundostund">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sundostund-20250215222000-Janhrach-20250215211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete - There isn't a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">criterion for speedy deletion</a> for pages put into the space of a user without the knowledge of that user, probably because that is an infrequent occurrence. That should however be a reason for deletion after a deletion discussion (this deletion discussion). <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250216194800-Janhrach-20250215211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_14,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_14,_2025-Current_discussions-20250214014800">February 14, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: February 14, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Draft:Eagles–Packers_rivalry" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Eagles–Packers_rivalry-February_14,_2025-20250214201600"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry">Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry">Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Special:EditPage/Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Draft talk:Eagles–Packers rivalry">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Special:PageHistory/Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Draft%3AEagles%E2%80%93Packers+rivalry">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Eagles–Packers rivalry">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> I have thought about this one for a while, and after that time, I do not see it meeting our notability guidelines. Consider: <ul><li>The only standalone notable games between the two is <a href="/wiki/4th_and_26" title="4th and 26">4th and 26</a> and <a href="/wiki/1960_NFL_Championship_Game" title="1960 NFL Championship Game">1960 NFL Championship Game</a>.</li> <li>They have only played each 48 times over 90 years and have never been in the same division.</li> <li>They have only played each other in the playoffs four times, with one of those happening just a month ago.</li> <li>A review of relevant sources does not show sustained use of the term "rivalry" to define the Packers and Eagles playing against each other, even thought they have been doing so for 90 years. Even playing against each other in high profile, recent games (like in Brazil and this year's playoff game), there is not much, if any, discussion on this being a true rivalry, above the normal interactions that two teams have against each other in the NFL.</li></ul> The Packers are an old franchise and have many rivalries, but all of their rivalries meet at least one of the four bullets above. For those reasons, I believe deletion is justified now. « Gonzo fan2007 <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonzo_fan2007" title="User talk:Gonzo fan2007">(talk)</a> @ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214201600-Draft:Eagles%E2%80%93Packers_rivalry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Keep: This is a draft and as such notability doesn't really apply. If this were in pagespace, it would be possible to make such a case, but since this is a page in development, it's not normally expected to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Drafts#Deleting_drafts" title="Wikipedia:Drafts">establish context or notability, translate, and make other adjustments and improvements</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:BusterD" title="User:BusterD">BusterD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BusterD" title="User talk:BusterD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-BusterD-20250214205000-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:BusterD" title="User:BusterD">BusterD</a>, the essay you reference specifically notes this very process. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NMFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NMFD">WP:NMFD</a>. In 3 months, this page would be eligible for speedy deletion. « Gonzo fan2007 <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonzo_fan2007" title="User talk:Gonzo fan2007">(talk)</a> @ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214214500-BusterD-20250214205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></li> <li>The Philadelphia Inquirer did <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-philadelphia-inquirer/165480465/">devote a full-page feature</a> on the rivalry. There's also <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/10-eagles-packers-oddities-from-an-88-year-rivalry/174177/">this</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:BeanieFan11" title="User:BeanieFan11">BeanieFan11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BeanieFan11" title="User talk:BeanieFan11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-BeanieFan11-20250214205800-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Understood. Just a serious lack of these type of references considering how long they have played against each other. I see these as the standard, local pieces that come out prior to games that they play against each other. « Gonzo fan2007 <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonzo_fan2007" title="User talk:Gonzo fan2007">(talk)</a> @ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214214500-BeanieFan11-20250214205800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></li> <li>Keep - See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NDRAFT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NDRAFT">Drafts are not reviewed for notability</a>. In fact, articles that fail notability but are otherwise compliant are often moved to draft space as an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ATD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ATD">alternative to deletion</a>. By the way, this draft is now eligible for speedy deletion in 6 months, not 3 months, because MFD restarts the calendar, just like other edits do. See also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Leave_useless_drafts_alone" title="Wikipedia:Leave useless drafts alone">Leave useless drafts alone</a>. Do we really need 5 or 10 useless drafts reviewed daily by multiple reviewers because one editor thinks that one of them needs to have the expiration process rushed? <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250214220800-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment - The nominator has identified various reasons why this draft should not be in article space. It is not in article space. These are also reasons why this draft should be declined if submitted for AFC review. It has not been submitted for AFC review. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250214221200-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment - If this article were submitted for approval into the mainspace, I would not support it for a variety of reasons, most of which have been covered above. But since draftspace pages can remain drafts regardless of quality or the notability of their subject, I’m not going to say we should delete it. (If it were an article, however, I would!) – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay" title="User:PeeJay">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay" title="User talk:PeeJay">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-PeeJay-20250215234100-Gonzo_fan2007-20250214201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox-February_14,_2025-20250214014800"><a href="/wiki/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" title="User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" title="User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" title="Special:EditPage/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KanyeWest2003/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:KanyeWest2003/sandbox (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" title="Special:PageHistory/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3AKanyeWest2003%2Fsandbox">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UP#COPIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UP">WP:UP#COPIES</a> - Partial copy of <a href="/wiki/Kanye_West" title="Kanye West">Kanye West</a> that claims he died in a car crash in 2002. <a href="/wiki/User:SK2242" title="User:SK2242">SK2242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SK2242" title="User talk:SK2242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SK2242-20250214014800-User:KanyeWest2003/sandbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - Falsely reporting the death of a living person is as clear an example of what the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biographies of living persons</a> policy is meant to prohibit as we are likely to encounter. Some leeway should be allowed in sandboxes for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UP#COPIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UP">questionable copies</a>, but there are no exceptions for clear BLP violations. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250214215500-SK2242-20250214014800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strong Delete per nom. — <a href="/wiki/User:Sundostund" title="User:Sundostund">Sundostund</a> <a href="/wiki/Manu_propria" title="Manu propria">mppria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundostund" title="User talk:Sundostund">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sundostund" title="Special:Contributions/Sundostund">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sundostund-20250214234600-SK2242-20250214014800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="February_13,_2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_13,_2025-Current_discussions-20250213052000">February 13, 2025</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: February 13, 2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Tammylyon/sandbox2-February_13,_2025-20250213230300"><a href="/wiki/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" title="User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">User:Tammylyon/sandbox2</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" title="User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">User:Tammylyon/sandbox2</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" title="Special:EditPage/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tammylyon/sandbox2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Tammylyon/sandbox2 (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" title="Special:PageHistory/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tammylyon/sandbox2&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3ATammylyon%2Fsandbox2">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tammylyon/sandbox2">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Four years stale unsourced promotional userspace biography draft of a non-notable journalist/photographer written by the subject's daughter. Same applies to <a href="/wiki/User:Tammylyon/sandbox" title="User:Tammylyon/sandbox">User:Tammylyon/sandbox</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Paradoctor" title="User:Paradoctor">Paradoctor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paradoctor" title="User talk:Paradoctor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Paradoctor-20250213230300-User:Tammylyon/sandbox2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - This is an abandoned unreferenced <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biography of a living person</a> (with a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250214215800-Paradoctor-20250213230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per nom. — <a href="/wiki/User:Sundostund" title="User:Sundostund">Sundostund</a> <a href="/wiki/Manu_propria" title="Manu propria">mppria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundostund" title="User talk:Sundostund">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sundostund" title="Special:Contributions/Sundostund">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sundostund-20250214234800-Paradoctor-20250213230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per Robert McClenon. While I'm not a fan of ragpicking, the combination of factors here favours deleting. If this had been created in article space or draft space, it would be long gone. We do give latitude in user space, but that's for members of the community beavering away at writing an encyclopedia in their own idiosyncratic ways. That's not the case here: someone, doubtless well-intentioned, seems to have appeared solely with the intent of writing a COI biography of someone who doesn't seem to be notable. They kindly thought better of it and abandoned the effort, and haven't been seen since. There is no encyclopedic reason to keep this around. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinp" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Martinp">Martinp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinp" title="User talk:Martinp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Martinp-20250216183100-Paradoctor-20250213230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Portal:Kilgore,_Texas-February_13,_2025-20250213163100"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Portal:Kilgore, Texas">Portal:Kilgore, Texas</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Portal:Kilgore, Texas" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Portal:Kilgore, Texas">Portal:Kilgore, Texas</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Special:EditPage/Portal:Kilgore, Texas">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Portal_talk:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Portal talk:Kilgore, Texas">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Special:PageHistory/Portal:Kilgore, Texas">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Portal:Kilgore, Texas">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Kilgore,_Texas&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Portal%3AKilgore%2C+Texas">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kilgore, Texas">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Overly narrow portal, newly created for a small (pop. 13K) city without clear evidence that it's needed. As always, every topic that exists does not automatically get or need its own dedicated portal -- they're useful for really large and broad topics where there are a lot of related subtopics to highlight and a large group of editors to maintain them, like countries or sciences where novices might need help finding an entry point due to the topic's size and scope, but not for really narrow topics, like small communities, where the main article already links pretty much everything there is to link. Perusing <a href="/wiki/Category:All_portals" title="Category:All portals">Category:All portals</a> clearly indicates that while there are a few portals for major metropolitan cities with populations in the millions, like Los Angeles, London, New York City, Chicago or Tokyo, there aren't any other portals for small communities in the 10-15K population range at all, and portals otherwise exist primarily for countries and broad concepts rather than individual towns or cities. Note that there was also an attempt just a few months ago to create a full-on Kilgore-specific WikiProject, which got deleted per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Kilgore,_Texas" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Kilgore, Texas">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Kilgore, Texas</a>, as well as a history timeline that consisted solely of unsourced population estimates and the founding of one school, which got deleted at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Timeline_of_Kilgore,_Texas" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of Kilgore, Texas">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of Kilgore, Texas</a> -- although they were created by a different username than this, a small town is such a highly specialized and narrow topic that I honestly suspect sockpuppetry or active coordination rather than two different editors genuinely coming up with such similar and interconnected doses of overkill independently of each other. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Bearcat-20250213163100-Portal:Kilgore,_Texas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Delete as the other Kilgore WikiProject content got deleted as well, and the small scope of this portal. <a href="/wiki/User:Xeroctic" title="User:Xeroctic">Xeroctic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xeroctic" title="User talk:Xeroctic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Xeroctic-20250213203400-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Delete. Portals are a failed idea, and are moribund. They are a negative duplication of articles and WikiProjects. For readers, improve mainspace. For editor recruitment and engagement, work in WikiProjects. For the relevant, already existing WikiProjects, see the banners at the top of the main article talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luka_Maglc" title="User talk:Luka Maglc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Luka_Maglc-20250214040600-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I’d rather to keep this page as it presents the information in a cleaner, more readable format than the main article. It organizes the content in a way that improves visibility and prevents overwhelming the reader, with everything clearly labeled. Even if it gets deleted, can I keep it in my drafts for a while? I like the layout and how it structures the information, and I plan to use it as a reference for improving the main article if needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Luka_Maglc" title="User:Luka Maglc">Luka Maglc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luka_Maglc" title="User talk:Luka Maglc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Luka_Maglc-20250214042100-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If any of your first two sentences is true, take it to the article, or raise it at the article talk page. Don’t fork content.</dd> <dd>If there is value in it as a reference for improving the article, move it to the WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SmokeyJoe-20250215121600-Luka_Maglc-20250214042100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete: as a portal on a specific, niche subject with no supporting WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User:Schützenpanzer">Schützenpanzer</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User talk:Schützenpanzer">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer-20250214153900-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak Keep - This is a newly created portal on a subject that is not a broad subject area, and was created within the past week by a new editor. There is no obvious reason why a portal should be created for this small city. This portal relies on transclusion of the selected 13 articles, rather than on the obsolete architecture of using subpages that are partial copies of selected articles. The question in this MFD is whether a newly created portal should be deleted because there is no identified need for it or because it is inconsistent with portal guidelines. I think that the answer is no. There is no pre-approval or review process for the creation of portals, and there are no portal guidelines. There was and is a page that is called <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POG">Portal Guidelines</a>, which was never adopted as a guideline, and which was commonly thought to be a guideline from 2006 to 2019, but had never been adopted as a guideline, and so was marked as a failed proposal. An RFC in 2019 to adopt it as a formal guideline failed. In my opinion, the proposal failed because the community was split over portals, and editors who favored portals did not want to restrict them, and editors who were skeptical about portals did not want to encourage them. There are no portal guidelines, and there has not been a hold on the creation of new portals. (There is a hold on the creation of new WikiProjects, by contrast.) There is no reason why this portal should have been created, but there is no <ins>sufficient</ins> reason at this time to delete an unnecessary portal. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250214155800-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There are several reasons given above to delete. You may disagree with them, but it is disingenuous to deny their existence. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SmokeyJoe-20250215121900-Robert_McClenon-20250214155800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, there are reasons to delete portals in general. Deleting portals when they are created is <a href="/wiki/Whac-a-Mole" class="mw-redirect" title="Whac-a-Mole">Whac-a-Mole</a>, and some moles should be whacked, and some moles can be ignored. We can disagree on which moles need whacking when. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250216041400-SmokeyJoe-20250215121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I concluded seven years ago that all portals of any value should be archived into WikiProjects.</dd> <dd>This Portal is ultra thin and the product of an experienced editor who problably is unaware of the history of portals, and idea thirty years ago that became redundant with the arrival of internet search engines.</dd> <dd>This portal should be deleted for having now value for archiving, by any measure. <a href="/wiki/User:SmokeyJoe" title="User:SmokeyJoe">SmokeyJoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe" title="User talk:SmokeyJoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SmokeyJoe-20250217132800-Robert_McClenon-20250216041400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Delete The scope is too narrow for a portal. – <a href="/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-SD0001-20250219190800-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Delete. We shouldn't create portals for limited-in-scope items. We have a proven track record that no one uses portals, and that includes portals for things much more known than a small town in Texas. Wikipedia is not a personal website or blog and this seems like what this is headed to. Editor time in this subject is much better suited in upgrading the articles themselves. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Gonnym-20250219190900-Bearcat-20250213163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland-February_13,_2025-20250213154000"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland">Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland">Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Special:EditPage/Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judy Garland">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Judy+Garland">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Judy Garland">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> Recently created project about a single actress with no pre-creation discussion that I could find. The scope of this subject is so small it's in the task force zone, but even that isn't helpful if there isn't a group of editors actually interested in this. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Gonnym-20250213154000-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judy_Garland" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete - See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals">Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals</a>, which states that the creation of new WikiProjects is on pause until new procedures are developed. The reason for the pause was to minimize the number of stillborn WikiProjects, and this would have been one even under the previous procedures. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Robert_McClenon-20250213195400-Gonnym-20250213154000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>There's no place like the <code>archive</code> table (delete) per Robert McClenon. <a href="/wiki/User:JJPMaster" title="User:JJPMaster">JJP</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJPMaster" title="User talk:JJPMaster">Mas</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJPMaster" title="Special:Contributions/JJPMaster">ter</a> (<a href="/wiki/She_(pronoun)" title="She (pronoun)">she</a>/<a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-JJPMaster-20250214122000-Gonnym-20250213154000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per nom and Robert McClenon. — <a href="/wiki/User:Sundostund" title="User:Sundostund">Sundostund</a> <a href="/wiki/Manu_propria" title="Manu propria">mppria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundostund" title="User talk:Sundostund">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sundostund" title="Special:Contributions/Sundostund">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Sundostund-20250215221800-Gonnym-20250213154000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What's Robert McClenon? <a href="/wiki/User:Jorge906" title="User:Jorge906">Jorge906</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jorge906" title="User talk:Jorge906">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Jorge906-20250218192600-Sundostund-20250215221800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jorge906" title="User:Jorge906">Jorge906</a>: The user who started their !vote with "See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals">Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals</a>, which states..." <a href="/wiki/User:JJPMaster" title="User:JJPMaster">JJP</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJPMaster" title="User talk:JJPMaster">Mas</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJPMaster" title="Special:Contributions/JJPMaster">ter</a> (<a href="/wiki/She_(pronoun)" title="She (pronoun)">she</a>/<a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-JJPMaster-20250219025500-Jorge906-20250218192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User:Maintenance_script" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Maintenance_script-February_13,_2025-20250213052000"><a href="/wiki/User:Maintenance_script" title="User:Maintenance script">User:Maintenance script</a></h4> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Maintenance_script&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: User:Maintenance script" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Maintenance_script" title="User:Maintenance script">User:Maintenance script</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User:Maintenance_script" title="Special:EditPage/User:Maintenance script">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maintenance_script" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Maintenance script">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/User:Maintenance_script" title="Special:PageHistory/User:Maintenance script">history</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Maintenance_script" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Maintenance script">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Maintenance_script&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3AMaintenance+script">logs</a>) – (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Maintenance_script" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Maintenance script">View MfD</a>)</dd></dl> This is a soft redirect to the script's Meta user page, requiring the user to click to view it. However, the script has a global user page, meaning that the soft redirect is not needed, and may be inefficient. <a href="/wiki/User:JJPMaster" title="User:JJPMaster">JJP</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJPMaster" title="User talk:JJPMaster">Mas</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJPMaster" title="Special:Contributions/JJPMaster">ter</a> (<a href="/wiki/She_(pronoun)" title="She (pronoun)">she</a>/<a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-JJPMaster-20250213052000-User:Maintenance_script" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Weak keep, for the category. I'm open to other ways of doing this though. This page was <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/663420225" title="Special:PermanentLink/663420225">created in May 2015</a>, *after* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-02-25/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-02-25/News and notes">global user pages became available</a> in February 2015. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Graham87-20250214005300-JJPMaster-20250213052000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Maybe we could add the category to the user talk page instead; there are no global user talk pages. <a href="/wiki/User:JJPMaster" title="User:JJPMaster">JJP</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJPMaster" title="User talk:JJPMaster">Mas</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJPMaster" title="Special:Contributions/JJPMaster">ter</a> (<a href="/wiki/She_(pronoun)" title="She (pronoun)">she</a>/<a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-JJPMaster-20250214145800-Graham87-20250214005300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>That'd work for me. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Graham87-20250216065300-Graham87-20250214005300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 16 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></li> <li>Delete Makes things actively worse for the sake of including a category of only questionable applicability and with thousands of other entries (so it's a needle in a haystack). No thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery">it has begun...</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Pppery-20250214050300-JJPMaster-20250213052000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/User:JJPMaster" title="User:JJPMaster">JJPMaster</a>: Agreed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Slgrandson" title="User:Slgrandson">Slgrandson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slgrandson" title="User talk:Slgrandson">How's my</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Slgrandson" title="Special:Contributions/Slgrandson">egg-throwing coleslaw?</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#c-Slgrandson-20250217011500-JJPMaster-20250213052000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><h2 id="Old_business" data-mw-thread-id="h-Old_business">Old business</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Old business" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238436933"><table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-style" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td><td class="mbox-text">Everything below this point is old business; the 7-day review period that began 05:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC) ended today on 20 February 2025. 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