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While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">current Help Desk</a> pages. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="June_15" data-mw-thread-id="h-June_15-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-June_15-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span>June 15<span data-mw-comment-end="h-June_15-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: June 15"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_it_inaccessible._How_do_I_delete_this_redirect?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i-June_15-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"><span id="Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page.2C_making_it_inaccessible._How_do_I_delete_this_redirect.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i-June_15-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span>Accidentally made Archive 1 subpage redirect back to my main Talk page, making it inaccessible. How do I delete this redirect?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i-June_15-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Accidentally made Archive 1 subpage redirect back to my main Talk page, making it inaccessible. How do I delete this redirect?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i"></span>Exactly what the title says. I accidentally created a redirect while trying to move/archive the page user_talk:CherrySoda, which links back to the main talk page. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:CherrySoda" title="User:CherrySoda">CherrySoda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CherrySoda#top" title="User talk:CherrySoda">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CherrySoda" title="Special:Contributions/CherrySoda">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z-Accidentally_made_Archive_1_subpage_redirect_back_to_my_main_Talk_page,_making_i"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:19:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span>If you want a page in your user space deleting, you can tag it with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Db-u1" title="Template:Db-u1">Db-u1</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. - <a href="/wiki/User:David_Biddulph" title="User:David Biddulph">David Biddulph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Biddulph" title="User talk:David Biddulph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:19:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:19, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:19:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:19:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span>But are you sure you want <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CherrySoda/Archive_1" title="User talk:CherrySoda/Archive 1">User talk:CherrySoda/Archive 1</a> deleting? Don't you want to replace the redirect content with the content of <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CherrySoda/Archive&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:CherrySoda/Archive (page does not exist)">User talk:CherrySoda/Archive</a>? When you say "making it inaccesible", do you realise that if <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CherrySoda/Archive_1" title="User talk:CherrySoda/Archive 1">User talk:CherrySoda/Archive 1</a> redirects to <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CherrySoda" title="User talk:CherrySoda">User talk:CherrySoda</a> it shows (at the top) "(Redirected from User talk:CherrySoda/Archive 1)" with the link back to the archive page being clickable? --<a href="/wiki/User:David_Biddulph" title="User:David Biddulph">David Biddulph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Biddulph" title="User talk:David Biddulph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z-CherrySoda-2021-06-15T02:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mjroots-2021-06-15T07:37:00.000Z-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:CherrySoda" title="User:CherrySoda">CherrySoda</a>:</span> I've deleted the page under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#U1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">WP:CSD#U1</a> (yes, it should have been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G7" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">WP:CSD#G7</a>, but no harm done). You can always recreate it if <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CherrySoda/Archive&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:CherrySoda/Archive (page does not exist)">User talk:CherrySoda/Archive</a> gets too large. <a href="/wiki/User:Mjroots" title="User:Mjroots">Mjroots</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mjroots" title="User talk:Mjroots">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Mjroots-2021-06-15T07:37:00.000Z-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mjroots-2021-06-15T07:37:00.000Z-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mjroots-2021-06-15T07:37:00.000Z-David_Biddulph-2021-06-15T03:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MBE_and_notability" data-mw-thread-id="h-MBE_and_notability-June_15-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MBE_and_notability-June_15-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z"></span>MBE and notability<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MBE_and_notability-June_15-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: MBE and notability"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (people)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z-MBE_and_notability"></span>Wikipedia:Notability (people)</a> says people may be notable if "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times." Is there any cutoff in practice for such offers - for instance in the case of a British person, would receiving an MBE be likely to qualify? <a href="/wiki/User:Ross_Burgess" title="User:Ross Burgess">rossb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ross_Burgess" title="User talk:Ross Burgess">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z-MBE_and_notability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:13, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z-MBE_and_notability"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z-MBE_and_notability"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z"></span>I believe that consensus is that only the higher orders of the <a href="/wiki/OBE" class="mw-redirect" title="OBE">OBE</a> are considered to be sufficient to presume notability. I'll look for the link. <a href="/wiki/User:Meters" title="User:Meters">Meters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meters" title="User talk:Meters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z-Ross_Burgess-2021-06-15T05:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z"></span>Have not found the discussion link yet, but here is confirmation that my memory is correct <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Orders,_decorations,_and_medals/Archive_6#MBE_recipients_all_notable_or_not?" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals/Archive 6">Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Orders,_decorations,_and_medals/Archive_6#MBE_recipients_all_notable_or_not?</a>.</dd> <dd>Perhaps <a href="/wiki/User:Necrothesp" title="User:Necrothesp">user: Necrothesp</a> can point us to the link before I stumble on it. <a href="/wiki/User:Meters" title="User:Meters">Meters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meters" title="User talk:Meters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:28, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, can't find the full discussion. You'll have to wait for someone else to provide it if you want/need it. <a href="/wiki/User:Meters" title="User:Meters">Meters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meters" title="User talk:Meters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:38, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Necrothesp-2021-06-15T09:24:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z"></span>We have always considered that CBE and higher are sufficient for notability under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANYBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANYBIO">WP:ANYBIO</a> #1 (i.e. CBE, CVO, CIE, CMG, CSI, CB, CH, OM and anything that carries the title of Sir or Dame). That comes from long consensus at AfD. <a href="/wiki/User:Necrothesp/List_of_AfD_discussions_for_individuals_with_a_CBE_or_above" title="User:Necrothesp/List of AfD discussions for individuals with a CBE or above">See here</a>. OBE, MBE, LVO and MVO are not generally considered to be sufficient to establish notability under ANYBIO, although they do of course add to the chance that a recipient may be notable. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Necrothesp" title="User:Necrothesp">Necrothesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Necrothesp" title="User talk:Necrothesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Necrothesp-2021-06-15T09:24:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Necrothesp-2021-06-15T09:24:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Necrothesp-2021-06-15T09:24:00.000Z-Meters-2021-06-15T05:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?-June_15-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z"><span id="What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?-June_15-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z"></span>What proportion of mobile article views read beyond the lead?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?-June_15-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: What proportion of mobile article views read beyond the lead?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adrian_J._Hunter-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?"></span>I'm certain I've seen statistics somewhere about what proportion of article views from mobile devices never go beyond the lead, versus what proportion involve the reader clicking at least one section heading to open a section. I can't find those statistics. Can anyone else? <a href="/wiki/User:Adrian_J._Hunter" title="User:Adrian J. Hunter">Adrian <b>J.</b> Hunter</a><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adrian_J._Hunter" title="User talk:Adrian J. Hunter">talk</a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Adrian_J._Hunter" title="Special:Contributions/Adrian J. Hunter">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Adrian_J._Hunter-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adrian_J._Hunter-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adrian_J._Hunter-2021-06-15T11:17:00.000Z-What_proportion_of_mobile_article_views_read_beyond_the_lead?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="did_not_receive_password_reset_email" data-mw-thread-id="h-did_not_receive_password_reset_email-June_15-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-did_not_receive_password_reset_email-June_15-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z"></span>did not receive password reset email<span data-mw-comment-end="h-did_not_receive_password_reset_email-June_15-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: did not receive password reset email"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victor_Schmidt-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-did_not_receive_password_reset_email"></span>Hi, I see where I can only request a password reset once per 24 hours. My user name was recognized and my email address and it said a reset was being sent to me but I did not receive it. Please help. I suppose another alternative is to re-register with a new user name and password. Do I also need a "new" or different email address? regards </p> <dl><dd>You can have multiple accounts under one email adress, but before that, <u>please check your spamfolder</u>. Password reset emails are known to land there rather frequently. <a href="/wiki/User:Victor_Schmidt" title="User:Victor Schmidt">Victor Schmidt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victor_Schmidt" title="User talk:Victor Schmidt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Victor_Schmidt-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-did_not_receive_password_reset_email" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victor_Schmidt-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-did_not_receive_password_reset_email"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victor_Schmidt-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-did_not_receive_password_reset_email"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Classic_vector_skin_font_size" data-mw-thread-id="h-Classic_vector_skin_font_size-June_15-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Classic_vector_skin_font_size-June_15-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z"></span>Classic vector skin font size<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Classic_vector_skin_font_size-June_15-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Classic vector skin font size"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hildeoc-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-Classic_vector_skin_font_size"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_information_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="information" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/18px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/27px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Symbol_information_vote.svg/36px-Symbol_information_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Note:</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Classic_vector_skin_font_size" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">In case of interest</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Hildeoc" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hildeoc">Hildeoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hildeoc" title="User talk:Hildeoc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Hildeoc-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-Classic_vector_skin_font_size" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hildeoc-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-Classic_vector_skin_font_size"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hildeoc-2021-06-15T15:34:00.000Z-Classic_vector_skin_font_size"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs-June_15-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs-June_15-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z"></span>Using photoshoot images in BLPs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs-June_15-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Using photoshoot images in BLPs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaxServer-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs"></span>Is there a policy or guideline which asks not to use photoshoot images in BLPs? <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1028713024" title="Special:Diff/1028713024">Special:Diff/1028713024</a> <a href="/wiki/User:DaxServer" title="User:DaxServer">-- DaxServer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaxServer" title="User talk:DaxServer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-DaxServer-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaxServer-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaxServer-2021-06-15T17:34:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Handsome_Pearl_V_Puri_Clicked_by_Sajid_Shahid_(42093188620)_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Handsome_Pearl_V_Puri_Clicked_by_Sajid_Shahid_%2842093188620%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-Handsome_Pearl_V_Puri_Clicked_by_Sajid_Shahid_%2842093188620%29_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="313" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Handsome_Pearl_V_Puri_Clicked_by_Sajid_Shahid_%2842093188620%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x" data-file-width="224" data-file-height="319"/></a><figcaption>Handsome Pearl V Puri Clicked by Sajid Shahid (42093188620) (cropped)</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:DaxServer" title="User:DaxServer">DaxServer</a>Never heard of one. And while I'd expect an image like this to be "ripped" from somewhere, per the info on Commons, that is not so. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z-Using_photoshoot_images_in_BLPs"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Non-free images of a living person are almost always considered to fail <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFCCP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFCCP">WP:NFCCP</a>#1, replaceability, as an image of that person <i>could be created</i>. Photoshoot images are almost always copyrighted but I see this one isn't (assuming the Flickr page is the <i>photographer</i> uploading the image under a public domain license) so that would make it fine for use. We go by recentness and quality of image when there are multiple free images available. — <a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bilorv" title="User talk:Bilorv"><span style="color:purple">talk</span></a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaxServer-2021-06-16T07:39:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> Thanks for the clarifications. <a href="/wiki/User:DaxServer" title="User:DaxServer">-- DaxServer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaxServer" title="User talk:DaxServer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-DaxServer-2021-06-16T07:39:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:39, 16 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaxServer-2021-06-16T07:39:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaxServer-2021-06-16T07:39:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Use_of_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Use_of_article-June_15-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Use_of_article-June_15-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"></span>Use of article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Use_of_article-June_15-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Use of article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z-Use_of_article"></span>Hello, </p><p>I would like permission to use some of information and the photo from the article at this link on your site, entitled Africatown. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africatown">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africatown</a> I plan to use it in the front pages of my children's book. I will credit Wikipedia as the source. </p><p>Please let me know if that is okay. </p><p><br/> Thank you, Jerrye Sumrall <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/74.250.216.24" title="Special:Contributions/74.250.216.24">74.250.216.24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:74.250.216.24#top" title="User talk:74.250.216.24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z-Use_of_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z-Use_of_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z-Use_of_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"></span>Absolutely, Wikipedia is published under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License">Creative Commons license</a> license, which means that it can be reused for many purposes. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_content" title="Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content">Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content</a>. As long as you credit Wikipedia, this is permitted. I'd recommend you use a "permanent link" URL to do so (e.g. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Africatown&oldid=1028457479">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Africatown&oldid=1028457479</a>). Most images come from <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikimedia Commons">Wikimedia Commons</a>, such as the one at the top of <a href="/wiki/Africatown" title="Africatown">Africatown</a>—<a href="/wiki/File:Welcome_to_Africatown_(cropped).jpg" title="File:Welcome to Africatown (cropped).jpg">File:Welcome to Africatown (cropped).jpg</a>—and can also be reused. You should preferably credit the listed author of the image and link to the URL of the specific image page. If you click on an image in an article and see it's hosted on Wikipedia directly with a "fair use" rationale, then this means it is copyrighted—it wasn't Wikipedia volunteers that made it and whether you can reuse it depends on copyright law in your country. — <a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bilorv" title="User talk:Bilorv"><span style="color:purple">talk</span></a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:00:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"></span>Hello! See this link: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_content" title="Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content">Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content</a>. I don't know which photo you mean, but click it and then the "More details" button for info. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:00:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:00:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-2021-06-15T18:00:00.000Z-74.250.216.24-2021-06-15T17:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Citing_primary_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Citing_primary_sources-June_15-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Citing_primary_sources-June_15-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Citing primary sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Citing_primary_sources-June_15-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Citing primary sources"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z-Citing_primary_sources"></span>Is there a template for the citation of primary sources such as diaries, private papers, or syllabi? I am working on a very controversial class offered in the 70s in Nebraska, and the course syllabus would be helpful to quote from. I will primarily be looking at secondary sources, but there is a use for primary ones under policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Urve" title="User:Urve"><span style="color:#b02ca3;font-family:Courier">Urve</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Urve" title="User talk:Urve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z-Citing_primary_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z-Citing_primary_sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z-Citing_primary_sources"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Urve" title="User:Urve">Urve</a>:</span> You may be looking for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARY">WP:PRIMARY</a> for guidance. There are templates related to primary sources, but the ones that I found (<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Primary_sources" title="Template:Primary sources">Primary sources</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Primary_source_inline" title="Template:Primary source inline">Primary source inline</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>) urge for their reduction rather than just asserting something is a primary source. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tenryuu" title="User:Tenryuu"><span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu 🐲</span></a> ( <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tenryuu" title="User talk:Tenryuu">💬</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tenryuu" title="Special:Contributions/Tenryuu">📝</a> ) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tenryuu" title="User:Tenryuu"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:02:00.000Z-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z"></span>Tenryuu</a>, no, I am already aware of the policy. I am asking if there is something like, e.g., cite journal for diaries or syllabi or whatever. I can do it manually, but the use of citations is sometimes easier for humans to parse and is more consistent. <a href="/wiki/User:Urve" title="User:Urve"><span style="color:#b02ca3;font-family:Courier">Urve</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Urve" title="User talk:Urve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:02:00.000Z-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:02:00.000Z-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:02:00.000Z-Tenryuu-2021-06-15T17:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> Note that "diaries" and "private papers" could fail the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">verifiability requirement "attributable to reliable, <i>published</i> sources"</a> (emphasis mine). The material should at some point have been made widely available. For instance, I can't cite my own diary even if I'm a world-leading expert in something and I would be reliable for the information per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPS">WP:SPS</a> if I wrote it on a blog. Is that the case with these sources? It seems to me that if it's published then the method of publishing would lead itself to an appropriate citation template (e.g. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> if the diary was published as a book). But the technical thing you're looking for may be just <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation" title="Template:Citation">citation</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> itself (or take a look at a list like <a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_Style_documentation/cs1" title="Template:Citation Style documentation/cs1">Template:Citation Style documentation/cs1</a>). — <a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bilorv" title="User talk:Bilorv"><span style="color:purple">talk</span></a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z"></span>Bilorv</a>, thanks. The definition of published is unclear, but they're widely available in university archives (and have been quoted in some secondary ones - so I'll probably just quote those instead) - so if that's the bar, it seems acceptable. Will think some more. Thanks for telling me that the citation template is fine enough - wasn't aware. <a href="/wiki/User:Urve" title="User:Urve"><span style="color:#b02ca3;font-family:Courier">Urve</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Urve" title="User talk:Urve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:18:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Okay, I believe that being available in university archives is fine for verifiability. — <a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bilorv" title="User talk:Bilorv"><span style="color:purple">talk</span></a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:18:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:18:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bilorv-2021-06-15T18:18:00.000Z-Urve-2021-06-15T18:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page-June_15-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page-June_15-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z"></span>Archiving discussions on talk page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page-June_15-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Archiving discussions on talk page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page"></span>In recent months there has been debate on this page: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Finasteride" title="Talk:Finasteride">Talk:Finasteride</a>. I observed it but was not involved. On May 3, selected topics on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Finasteride" title="Talk:Finasteride">Talk:Finasteride</a> were archived by an editor who had not been involved in the discussions to that point, as far as I know. Why were those topics archived, and is there a policy on archiving discussions on Talk pages? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:135.84.167.43&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:135.84.167.43 (page does not exist)">135.84.167.43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:135.84.167.43#top" title="User talk:135.84.167.43">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/135.84.167.43" title="Special:Contributions/135.84.167.43">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z-Archiving_discussions_on_talk_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z"></span>The information on how and when to archive discussions is at <a href="/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page" title="Help:Archiving a talk page">Help:Archiving a talk page</a>. As for why those particular discussions were archived, it's probably best to ask <a href="/wiki/User:JzG" title="User:JzG">JzG</a>, as JzG is the one who archived them. However, if you will notice, JzG left a closing statement before archiving those discussions indicating that the "OP is <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Doors22&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Doors22 (page does not exist)">Doors22</a> evading a block." There is a history of one particular user who has been problematic on that article and was blocked as a result. The user periodically comes back in violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry">our policy on multiple accounts</a> to continue pushing the argument that got them blocked. In cases like that, it's common to archive such discussions sooner than normal in an effort to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deny_recognition" title="Wikipedia:Deny recognition">avoid feeding the trolls</a>. ~ <i><a href="/wiki/User:ONUnicorn" title="User:ONUnicorn"><span style="color:#0cc">ONUnicorn</span></a></i><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ONUnicorn" title="User talk:ONUnicorn">Talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn" title="Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn">Contribs</a>)</sup><small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:P%26S" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:P&S">problem solving</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-135.84.167.43-2021-06-15T18:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T22:57:00.000Z-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I studied the history of the Talk page (also before submitting this) and didn't see the "closing statement" you refer to. Still don't see it. <dl><dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Finasteride&diff=prev&oldid=1021235271&diffonly=1">This edit</a></span>. ~ <i><a href="/wiki/User:ONUnicorn" title="User:ONUnicorn"><span style="color:#0cc">ONUnicorn</span></a></i><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ONUnicorn" title="User talk:ONUnicorn">Talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn" title="Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn">Contribs</a>)</sup><small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:P%26S" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:P&S">problem solving</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T22:57:00.000Z-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T22:57:00.000Z-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T22:57:00.000Z-ONUnicorn-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd>Thanks.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Conversating_with_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conversating_with_Wikipedia-June_15-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conversating_with_Wikipedia-June_15-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Conversating with Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conversating_with_Wikipedia-June_15-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Conversating with Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-Conversating_with_Wikipedia"></span>???(?). </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.149.24.135" title="Special:Contributions/85.149.24.135">85.149.24.135</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:85.149.24.135" title="User talk:85.149.24.135">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-Conversating_with_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-Conversating_with_Wikipedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z-Conversating_with_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"></span>You'll have to give us some more information as to what exactly you are asking. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z-85.149.24.135-2021-06-15T19:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quisqualis-2021-06-17T19:03:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.149.24.135" title="Special:Contributions/85.149.24.135">85.149.24.135</a>. Your recent efforts at "conversating" here have not been constructive. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHERE">WP:NOTHERE</a>.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Quisqualis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Quisqualis (page does not exist)">Quisqualis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quisqualis" title="User talk:Quisqualis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Quisqualis-2021-06-17T19:03:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quisqualis-2021-06-17T19:03:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quisqualis-2021-06-17T19:03:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T19:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page-June_15-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page-June_15-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z"></span>False information on my Wikipedia page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page-June_15-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: False information on my Wikipedia page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page"></span>There is false information on my page - Artis the Spoonman. </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artis_the_Spoonman">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artis_the_Spoonman</a> It is about my name. How can I change it? I clicked "Edit", changed a few things but did it wrong. I have trouble understanding complex issues - PTSD Actually. </p><p>My name is Artis<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.212.132.107" title="Special:Contributions/71.212.132.107">71.212.132.107</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:71.212.132.107" title="User talk:71.212.132.107">talk</a>) </p> <dl><dd>Please make an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ER">edit request</a>(click for instructions) on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Artis_the_Spoonman" title="Talk:Artis the Spoonman">Talk:Artis the Spoonman</a>, detailing changes you feel are needed, preferably sourced to independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>. Note that Wikipedia will typically use <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">the most common name for a subject</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z-False_information_on_my_Wikipedia_page"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:50:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z"></span>Hi Artis! Your edit went through, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1028742855" title="Special:Diff/1028742855">here</a>, but a volunteer undid it because it doesn't provide any <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">reliable sources</a>. Even if you obviously know what is and isn't true about yourself, Wikipedia only reports information that has been published in reliable sources—otherwise, we'd get a lot of people pretending to be other people and a lot of people deliberately adding wrong information as a joke. Because you're the subject of the article, we also prefer you to just make <i>requests</i> of edits, like 331dot tells you how to do above, because we want to stay editorially independent of our subjects. So please make a request but only to add information that is backed up by a news report or link to your personal website or something else which proves to someone with no familiarity with the topic that it is true. We also won't be able to change the article title to just <a href="/wiki/Artis" class="mw-disambig" title="Artis">Artis</a> because there are many different things with this name and we need to distinguish between them. — <a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bilorv" title="User talk:Bilorv"><span style="color:purple">talk</span></a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:50:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:50, 16 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:50:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:50:00.000Z-331dot-2021-06-15T21:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Respect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Respect-June_15-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Respect-June_15-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z"></span>Respect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Respect-June_15-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Respect"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z-Respect"></span>Is the positive word <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:EMIHLE_MFEKETHO" title="User:EMIHLE MFEKETHO">EMIHLE MFEKETHO</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EMIHLE_MFEKETHO&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:EMIHLE MFEKETHO (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/EMIHLE_MFEKETHO" title="Special:Contributions/EMIHLE MFEKETHO">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z-Respect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z-Respect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z-Respect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:53:00.000Z-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z"></span>Hi, <a href="/wiki/User:EMIHLE_MFEKETHO" title="User:EMIHLE MFEKETHO">EMIHLE MFEKETHO</a>, do you have a question? — <a href="/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">Bilorv</a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bilorv" title="User talk:Bilorv"><span style="color:purple">talk</span></a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15#c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:53:00.000Z-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:53:00.000Z-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bilorv-2021-06-16T07:53:00.000Z-EMIHLE_MFEKETHO-2021-06-15T23:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&oldid=1038265377">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_June_15&oldid=1038265377</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 11 August 2021, at 14:12<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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