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href="/wiki/File:Mosque.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Mosque.svg/15px-Mosque.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Mosque.svg/23px-Mosque.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Mosque.svg/30px-Mosque.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="346" data-file-height="575" /></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article is supported by <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Islam/Sunni_Islam_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam/Sunni Islam task force">the Sunni Islam task force</a></b>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475" /><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259570071" /><table class="tmbox tmbox-notice 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Killer task force">Serial, mass, and spree killers</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Crime_and_Criminal_Biography/Terrorism_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography/Terrorism task force">Terrorism</a></span> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles import-mid">Mid‑importance</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Arrest.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Arrest.svg/60px-Arrest.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="60" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Arrest.svg/90px-Arrest.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Arrest.svg/120px-Arrest.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="300" data-file-height="300" /></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This article is within the scope of <b><a 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title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg/22px-Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg.png" decoding="async" width="22" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg/34px-Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg/44px-Serial_Killer_Task_Force.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="54" /></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article is supported by <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Crime_and_Criminal_Biography/Serial_Killer_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography/Serial Killer task force">the Serial Killer task force</a></b> (assessed as <a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Serial_killer-related_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Serial killer-related articles">Mid-importance</a>).</td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Bomby_trans.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Bomby_trans.svg/30px-Bomby_trans.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Bomby_trans.svg/45px-Bomby_trans.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Bomby_trans.svg/60px-Bomby_trans.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="513" data-file-height="431" /></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article is supported by <b><a 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section on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries/June_28?oldid=847896464">June 28, 2018</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries/June_28?oldid=1030766364">June 28, 2021</a>, and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries/June_28?oldid=1162313262">June 28, 2023</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lots_of_sources_here" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lots_of_sources_here-2016-06-28T21:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lots_of_sources_here-2016-06-28T21:36:00.000Z"></span>Lots of sources here<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lots_of_sources_here-2016-06-28T21:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Victorgrigas-2016-06-28T21:36:00.000Z-Lots_of_sources_here" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 28 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victorgrigas-2016-06-28T21:36:00.000Z-Lots_of_sources_here"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victorgrigas-2016-06-28T21:36:00.000Z-Lots_of_sources_here"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z"><span id="Britain_and_Donald_Trump.27s_reaction"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z"></span>Britain and Donald Trump's reaction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Britain and Donald Trump's reaction"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"></span>British leaders and Trump have expressed condolences for the attack. British reaction should be added but I doubt about Trump as he does not hold any official position. Do you think Trump's reaction should be added? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/59.89.40.92" title="Special:Contributions/59.89.40.92">59.89.40.92</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:59.89.40.92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:59.89.40.92 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:06:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:34:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"></span>I meant he does not hold any official position in the US government. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/59.89.40.92" title="Special:Contributions/59.89.40.92">59.89.40.92</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:59.89.40.92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:59.89.40.92 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:34:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 28 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:34:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stefvh96-2016-06-28T23:09:00.000Z-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stefvh96-2016-06-28T23:09:00.000Z-59.89.40.92-2016-06-28T23:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z-Stefvh96-2016-06-28T23:09:00.000Z"></span>No. Trump speaks for himself, not for the nation. – <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu#top" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z-Stefvh96-2016-06-28T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 28 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z-Stefvh96-2016-06-28T23:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z-Stefvh96-2016-06-28T23:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.101.104.17-2016-06-29T08:38:00.000Z-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z"></span>Not unless he holds an office. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.101.104.17" title="Special:Contributions/75.101.104.17">75.101.104.17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.101.104.17" title="User talk:75.101.104.17">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-75.101.104.17-2016-06-29T08:38:00.000Z-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.101.104.17-2016-06-29T08:38:00.000Z-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.101.104.17-2016-06-29T08:38:00.000Z-Muboshgu-2016-06-28T23:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T04:44:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"></span>We, Wikipedia editors, must be very careful and not be propaganda agents of governments. We should not automatically limit article coverage to just official statements. Note that this is not an endorsement of adding a Trump comment. In fact, please don't. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Whiskeymouth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Whiskeymouth (page does not exist)">Whiskeymouth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Whiskeymouth" title="User talk:Whiskeymouth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T04:44:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T04:44:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T04:44:00.000Z-Britain_and_Donald_Trump's_reaction"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Death_count_and_official" data-mw-thread-id="h-Death_count_and_official-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Death_count_and_official-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"></span>Death count and official<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Death_count_and_official-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Death count and official"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Death_count_and_official"></span>Using this article: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/europe/turkey-istanbul-airport-attacks/index.html?adkey=bn">http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/europe/turkey-istanbul-airport-attacks/index.html?adkey=bn</a> I updated the death count and changed the official who came up with the number. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PromethiumElemental&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PromethiumElemental (page does not exist)">PromethiumElemental</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PromethiumElemental" title="User talk:PromethiumElemental">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/PromethiumElemental" title="Special:Contributions/PromethiumElemental">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Death_count_and_official" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Death_count_and_official"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Death_count_and_official"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"></span>Yes, 36. Somebody keeps changing it to 50. If it continues I will seek semiprotection. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z-PromethiumElemental-2016-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z"></span>Yes, semiprotection would be good... --<a href="/wiki/User:M4r51n" title="User:M4r51n">M4r51n</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M4r51n" title="User talk:M4r51n">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:35:00.000Z-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z"></span>Is it just the User:Garzen edit? One edit alone is insufficient. I have warned that account. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:35:00.000Z-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:35:00.000Z-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T00:35:00.000Z-M4r51n-2016-06-29T00:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="International_reactions" data-mw-thread-id="h-International_reactions-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-International_reactions-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"></span>International reactions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-International_reactions-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: International reactions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z-International_reactions"></span>Let's head this off at the pass. Can we please please please limit the reactions to regional powers (UK, Germany, France) and relevant countries (Syria, Iraq, countries fighting ISIS directly). I'm totally against having a section dedicated to quotes from world leader, but if we are going to have it, then can we at least have it be tailored to the article at hand. What the president of Sri Lanka has to say about this attack is fairly irrelevant. <span style="color:#0645AD;"><a href="/wiki/User:Brightgalrs" title="User:Brightgalrs"><span style="color:#0645AD;"><b>Brightgalrs</b></span></a> (/braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/)<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brightgalrs" title="User talk:Brightgalrs"><span style="color:#0645AD;">[1]</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z-International_reactions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z-International_reactions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z-International_reactions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"></span>Apropos, the last graf about the Philippines seems irrelevant unless it can be stated that there is a large contingent of Filipino workers in Turkey and/or a sizeable number planning to work in Turkey. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z"></span>I think there is a little more going on there than a simple "our thoughts and prayers are with you". It relates to the attack (cause of a potential ban) and relates to the two countries at hand (<a href="/wiki/Filipinos_in_Turkey" title="Filipinos in Turkey">Filipinos in Turkey</a>). <span style="color:#0645AD;"><a href="/wiki/User:Brightgalrs" title="User:Brightgalrs"><span style="color:#0645AD;"><b>Brightgalrs</b></span></a> (/braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/)<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brightgalrs" title="User talk:Brightgalrs"><span style="color:#0645AD;">[1]</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T13:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z"></span>Well, <a href="/wiki/Filipinos_in_Turkey" title="Filipinos in Turkey">Filipinos in Turkey</a> would be helpful if it weren't eight years old and citing even older refs. IMO the Philippines' statement should be retained only if some brief reference can be made to the number of Filipino workers currently or recently resident in Turkey. Otherwise, since Manila is about 6,000 mi. from Istanbul, it seems pretty off the wall to English-lang. readers. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T13:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z"></span>In 10 hours, no one has added any explanatory, documented text regarding the presence of Filipinos in Turkey. Consequently, I've deleted the paragraph in question as being by itself irrelevant to this event. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z"></span>PS: The official condolences contained in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2016_Istanbul_airport_attack&diff=727515714&oldid=727514703">this</a> revision add no new info regarding the attack, its results or the perps. Boring and of little relevance. Suggest deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z"></span>I agree. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T14:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z"></span>In context of this event, I don't see much EV in the list (with flags!) of 38 countries that expressed condolences and support for Turkey in connection with the attack. It could be interpreted as a Turkey-centric effort to play up international support for Turkey despite various recent criticisms of some Turkish foreign and domestic policies. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T14:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z"></span>Yes I tend to agree. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><small><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:27:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z"></span>Disclaimer:</i> This user has no personal ax to grind with regard to Turkey or the Turkish people. My views are based on journalistic considerations. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:27:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:27:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:27:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-User2534-2016-06-30T08:26:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"></span>Yes. A major issue about these reaction-sections is that they are almost never complete, and thus include and leave out a random number of countries. Either you'll have to have all, or you can have a limited selection for notability, or nothing at all. As these often develop however, they are just a random collection of countries, while including some small countries they leave out a great number of others which makes the impression that the countries left out have not expressed their condolences when I'm fairly sure that goes for <b>all 190</b> or so countries in the world. So far this section "only" includes about 60 countries, so those in favour of full sections have a job to do. <a href="/wiki/User:User2534" title="User:User2534">User2534</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:User2534" title="User talk:User2534">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-User2534-2016-06-30T08:26:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-User2534-2016-06-30T08:26:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-User2534-2016-06-30T08:26:00.000Z-Brightgalrs-2016-06-29T03:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Verb_tense" data-mw-thread-id="h-Verb_tense-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Verb_tense-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z"></span>Verb tense<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Verb_tense-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Verb tense"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z-Verb_tense"></span>Generally speaking, in encyclopedic writing past-tense verbs should be used, as most articles will outlive the present-tense status of breaking news. Wiki is not a news ticker. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z-Verb_tense" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z-Verb_tense"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T13:48:00.000Z-Verb_tense"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Current_event"_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Current_event"_tag-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z"><span id=".22Current_event.22_tag"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Current_event"_tag-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z"></span>"Current event" tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Current_event"_tag-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: "Current event" tag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z-"Current_event"_tag"></span>Given that the death toll is in flux and this only just happened late yesterday, I would suggest keeping that tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z-"Current_event"_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z-"Current_event"_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z-"Current_event"_tag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z"></span>For how long? It's unlikely there'll be significant change in the death toll or other info. It's not really an ongoing event anymore. Suggest it be de-currentized (!) at least by early Thursday UTC. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z"></span>Sure, tentatively Thursday. Right now it's still a bit chaotic. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-29T21:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z"></span>Per <a href="/wiki/Template:Current" title="Template:Current">template:current</a>, "it is expected that this template and its closely related templates will appear on an article for less than a day". Removed. <a href="/wiki/User:WWGB" title="User:WWGB">WWGB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WWGB" title="User talk:WWGB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-29T21:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:14:00.000Z-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z"></span>OK, I did not see that. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:14:00.000Z-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:14:00.000Z-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:14:00.000Z-WWGB-2016-06-30T03:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Title_needs_to_be_changed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Title_needs_to_be_changed-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Title_needs_to_be_changed-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Title needs to be changed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Title_needs_to_be_changed-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Title needs to be changed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z-Title_needs_to_be_changed"></span>Should be a variation of Atatürk Airport. </p><p>Istanbul is only used by the uniformed or by dumbing down talk. It is as if the term New York airport attack were used instead of Kennedy Airport. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Whiskeymouth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Whiskeymouth (page does not exist)">Whiskeymouth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Whiskeymouth" title="User talk:Whiskeymouth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z-Title_needs_to_be_changed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z-Title_needs_to_be_changed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z-Title_needs_to_be_changed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:13:00.000Z-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z"></span>No, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a> it is almost universally referred to as the Istanbul airport attack. Ataturk is rarely included in such references on first use and in article headlines and leads. I don't think it's necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:13:00.000Z-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:13:00.000Z-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:13:00.000Z-Whiskeymouth-2016-06-30T03:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Flag_salad" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flag_salad-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flag_salad-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Flag salad<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flag_salad-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Flag salad"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z-Flag_salad"></span>What is the point in the huge array of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOSICON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOSICON">tiny flags</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERLINK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERLINK">country names</a> under the Reactions section? --<a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">John</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John" title="User talk:John">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z-Flag_salad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z-Flag_salad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z-Flag_salad"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z"></span>At least we can identify all the 100+ possibly terror-supporting countries that are <i>not</i> included, I presume. <a href="/wiki/User:User2534" title="User:User2534">User2534</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:User2534" title="User talk:User2534">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T08:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z"></span>Uh</a>-<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COATRACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COATRACK">huh</a>. Anything else? --<a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">John</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John" title="User talk:John">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z-User2534-2016-06-30T09:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z"></span>Not a useful section, as there is an absence of content. The reader has to go to the links, and all this does is identify the countries that express sympathy. Very marginal. Note that in <a href="/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_attacks" title="Reactions to the September 11 attacks">Reactions to the September 11 attacks</a> there are flags but also content with each. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z-John-2016-06-30T09:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z"></span>And hiding it was wishy-washy. (That was a tacit admission that it's not appropriate.) Either it's relevant to the story or it's not. I think not, for reasons aired <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Istanbul_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#International_reactions">above,</a> and propose deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z"></span>Yes I don't like that. However, I think that a more important task is to update the lead, as there is new sourcing, and it relies upon sourcing and speculation immediately after the attack. One thing I just noticed, and I hope this isn't a widespread problem: if you use the template reference gizmo and stick in the URL for a system-generated title, it turns up the wrong article name for the Daily Mail article ("50 dead"). <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T14:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z"></span>Added new AP ref to lede. <small>(You beat me to the BBC re three attackers' origins!)</small> Deleted 'flag salad.' <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T14:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T15:51:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z"></span>Good idea. (and no need to remove that little personal note, I thought it was amusing). <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T15:51:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T15:51:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T15:51:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T15:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z-Flag_salad"></span>OK – it's back. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Also what's the point in mentioning the names of airports which have "tightened" their security? Obviously hundreds of airports across the world would have stepped up security measures following this attack. Suggest removing airport names. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/59.88.204.209" title="Special:Contributions/59.88.204.209">59.88.204.209</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:59.88.204.209&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:59.88.204.209 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z-Flag_salad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z-Flag_salad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z-Flag_salad"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span>To some degree it serves to illustrate how serious the attack was. However, I agree its relevance is fading fast. This is the prob with writing an encyclopedia article as if it were a breaking news story. We have to think ahead, and shouldn't get caught up in the moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, it really should have a "current events" tag, as it is a developing story that keeps changing. I know that the documentation for the tag says that it should be removed after 24 hrs. but that's not a hard-and-fast rule. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Nope, the event is over. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:10:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Can't we just say "dozens of international airports across the world tightened their security" instead of naming the airports individually? Within a minute I could find similar news reports for airports in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://bc.ctvnews.ca/yvr-steps-up-security-following-attack-at-istanbul-airport-1.2967525">Vancouver</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Istanbul-effect-IGI-goes-under-multi-layer-blanket/articleshow/52982957.cms">New Delhi</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.azernews.az/azerbaijan/98627.html">Azerbaijan</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/security-tightened-checkpoints-and-key-transport-nodes-spore">Singapore</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/59.88.204.209" title="Special:Contributions/59.88.204.209">59.88.204.209</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:59.88.204.209&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:59.88.204.209 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T16:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John-2016-06-30T20:05:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z"></span>Absolutely. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">We should not try for real-time completeness</a> on articles like this. --<a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">John</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John" title="User talk:John">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-John-2016-06-30T20:05:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John-2016-06-30T20:05:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John-2016-06-30T20:05:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T16:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Kj17oVHAk"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lugnuts-2016-07-01T08:14:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span>You don't win friends with salad</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span></a></b> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Dick Laurent is dead</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Lugnuts-2016-07-01T08:14:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lugnuts-2016-07-01T08:14:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lugnuts-2016-07-01T08:14:00.000Z-59.88.204.209-2016-06-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attackers_were_from_three_countries_that_formerly_were_part_of_Soviet_Union"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z"><span id="Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead.28.3F.29:_.22A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attackers_were_from_three_countries_that_formerly_were_part_of_Soviet_Union.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span>Is this relevant for the lead(?): "A BBC report on 30 June indicated the attackers were from three countries that formerly were part of Soviet Union"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Is this relevant for the lead(?): "A BBC report on 30 June indicated the attackers were from three countries that formerly were part of Soviet Union""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke"></span>The current lead says: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2016_Istanbul_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&type=revision&diff=727688614&oldid=727684230">"A BBC report on 30 June indicated the attackers were from three countries that formerly were part of Soviet Union"</a>. I do think that this is not something that should be like this in the lead: the <a href="/wiki/Soviet_Union" title="Soviet Union">Soviet Union</a> imploded in 1991 (25 years ago) and the current lead suggest that it is still to blame for a terrorist attack in 2016.... (I have no objection to the information being in <a href="/wiki/2016_Istanbul_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#Responsibility" class="mw-redirect" title="2016 Istanbul Atatürk Airport attack">the Responsibility-section of this article</a>). It is better to just only list the countries (<a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Uzbekistan" title="Uzbekistan">Uzbekistan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Kyrgyzstan" title="Kyrgyzstan">Kyrgyzstan</a>). — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Yulia_Romero" title="User:Yulia Romero"><span style="font-family:Script MT;color:orange">Yulia Romero</span></a></b> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yulia_Romero" title="User talk:Yulia Romero"><span style="font-family:Script MT;color:blue">Talk to me!</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z-Is_this_relevant_for_the_lead(?):_"A_BBC_report_on_30_June_indicated_the_attacke"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:53:00.000Z-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span>That's the wording of the BBC report. We can tweak. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:53:00.000Z-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:53:00.000Z-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T16:53:00.000Z-Yulia_Romero-2016-06-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="'IS'" data-mw-thread-id="h-'IS'-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"><span id=".27IS.27"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-'IS'-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"></span>'IS'<span data-mw-comment-end="h-'IS'-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: 'IS'"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z-'IS'"></span>Turkish officials said the attackers were from <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant" class="mw-redirect" title="Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant">Islamic State of Iraq and Levant</a>, and commentators suggested that the attacks may have been related to stepped-up pressure against the group by Turkish authorities.</i> </p> <dl><dd>– Aside from needing a citation, I'm not comfortable with this. From what I've read, the attackers weren't <i>from</i> 'IS' – 'IS' is not a country – though they may have been coordinated by that terrorist group.</dd> <dd>I'd rather see a simple statement that they were, according to an unidentified but "senior" Turkish official, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://bigstory.ap.org/article/5228732503834ffa908de8092a12d31a/report-turkish-security-forces-kill-2-militants">from Russia, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.</a> (The fact that those countries all were formerly part of the Soviet Union indeed doesn't seem very relevant.) <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z-'IS'" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z-'IS'"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z-'IS'"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T22:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"></span>CNN reported that they came from those countries originally but had come directly from ISIL-controlled Syria. I've tweaked and added sourcing, though footnotes generally not needed in lead sections. Still, being a controversial subject, I see no harm. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T22:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T22:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-30T22:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Quite a few new details are coming out this evening (US time). I'd suggest keeping everything as is and add as necessary. No rush per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> as someone correctly cited above. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z-Sca-2016-06-30T22:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T00:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z"></span>Good tweak. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-01T00:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T00:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-01T00:32:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T00:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Organizer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Organizer-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Organizer-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"></span>Organizer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Organizer-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Organizer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-Organizer"></span>Added Chechen extremist Akhmed Chatayev, per CNN via AP. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-Organizer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-Organizer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-Organizer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"></span>Coretheapple</a>: Since the Chechen separatist movement is not related to the Istanbul attack, "Chechen extremist involvement also was alleged" seems misleading and probably misplaced. As I read the AP story cited, Chatayev's designation as a "Chechen extremist" is merely biographical; presumably, his role here is that of <a href="/wiki/Jihadism" title="Jihadism">Jihadist</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z"></span>OK, that's a valid point.</dd> <dd>Would appreciate your (and other peoples') view of the title. See section above. It was changed without consensus or discussion and in my opinion hastily. However, changing it back, I <i>think</i>, would require technical assistance from an admin. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T20:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z"></span>Completely agree with your comment above. Obviously it should be <span style="color:indigo;">2016 Istanbul airport attack</span>. Current title is pedantic and unwieldy. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-01T21:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z"></span>Apparently I succeeded in moving it to <a href="/wiki/2016_Istanbul_airport_attack" class="mw-redirect" title="2016 Istanbul airport attack">2016 Istanbul airport attack</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T12:24:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z"></span>Oh good! That might have been the original title so I wasn't sure about redirects, double redirects, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T12:24:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T12:24:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T12:24:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-01T22:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-176.77.31.1-2016-07-03T16:37:00.000Z-Organizer"></span>Akhmed Chatayev received refugee status in Austria (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/002/2010/en/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/002/2010/en/</a>). I think this fact should be mentioned in the section about Chatayev <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.77.31.1" title="Special:Contributions/176.77.31.1">176.77.31.1</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:176.77.31.1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:176.77.31.1 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-176.77.31.1-2016-07-03T16:37:00.000Z-Organizer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 3 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-176.77.31.1-2016-07-03T16:37:00.000Z-Organizer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-176.77.31.1-2016-07-03T16:37:00.000Z-Organizer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z"><span id="Rename_to_2016_Atat.C3.BCrk_International_Airport_attack"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z"></span>Rename to <a href="/w/index.php?title=2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_International_Airport_attack&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2016 Atatürk International Airport attack (page does not exist)">2016 Atatürk International Airport attack</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Rename to 2016 Atatürk International Airport attack"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sam_Sailor-2016-07-26T13:25:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: Discussion did not result in a consensus to move the article to the suggested title <a href="/w/index.php?title=2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_International_Airport_attack&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2016 Atatürk International Airport attack (page does not exist)">2016 Atatürk International Airport attack</a>. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Non-admin_closure" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <b><a href="/wiki/User:Sam_Sailor" title="User:Sam Sailor">Sam Sailor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sam_Sailor" title="User talk:Sam Sailor"><sup><i>Talk!</i></sup></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sam_Sailor-2016-07-26T13:25:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sam_Sailor-2016-07-26T13:25:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sam_Sailor-2016-07-26T13:25:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span> </p> <hr /> <p><a href="/wiki/2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack" title="2016 Atatürk Airport attack"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span>2016 Atatürk Airport attack</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_International_Airport_attack&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2016 Atatürk International Airport attack (page does not exist)">2016 Atatürk International Airport attack</a> – I would suggest renaming the article to 2016 Atatürk International Airport attack since there are two airports in Istanbul, neither called "Istanbul airport". --<small> <a href="/wiki/User:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/16" class="mw-redirect" title="User:とある白い猫/16">A Certain White Cat</a></small> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/16" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:とある白い猫/16">chi?</a></sup> 14:34, 2 July 2016 (UTC) <small>--<i><b>Relisting.</b></i> <b><span style="font-family: Papyrus;"><a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"><span style="color:#3ab628;">Anarchyte</span></a> <span style="color: #000;"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anarchyte" title="Special:Contributions/Anarchyte"><span style="color:#247018;">work</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anarchyte" title="User talk:Anarchyte"><span style="color:#247018;">talk</span></a>)</small></span></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 13 July 2016 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z"></span>We're not saying it is called "Istanbul Airport" and there is no need to name the airport in the title. It is commonly referred to in the reliable sourcing as the Istanbul airport attack, not as the Ataturk Airport attack. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z-Anarchyte-2016-07-13T11:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a>:</span> Take a look at: <a href="/wiki/2002_Los_Angeles_International_Airport_shooting" title="2002 Los Angeles International Airport shooting">2002 Los Angeles International Airport shooting</a> and other articles in <a href="/wiki/Category:Terrorist_attacks_on_airports" title="Category:Terrorist attacks on airports">Category:Terrorist attacks on airports</a>. The common method is to name the attack after the airport. This will be one of the only exceptions to this existent consensus. I cannot see a good reason for this. The claim that "Istanbul Airport" is the common name is original research at best IMHO. --<small> <a href="/wiki/User:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/16" class="mw-redirect" title="User:とある白い猫/16">A Certain White Cat|Cat</a></small> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/16" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:とある白い猫/16">chi?</a></sup> 19:27, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Sca moved page 2016 Istanbul Atatürk Airport attack to 2016 Istanbul airport attack over redirect: Current title is pedantic and unwieldy. This event is generally known by the simpler "Istanbul airport" title.) </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a>:</span> This claim is baseless. This airports official name is used everywhere. See above on how articles on airport attacks are normally named. --<small> <a href="/wiki/User:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/16" class="mw-redirect" title="User:とある白い猫/16">A Certain White Cat</a></small> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/16" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:とある白い猫/16">chi?</a></sup> 19:32, 2 July 2016 (UTC) <dl><dd>Nope. Outside Turkey and the Middle East, and except for history buffs in the West, Atatürk is, alas, not a household name. From the standpoint of the the 1.2 billion English speakers worldwide, pedantically insisting on calling the article "Atatürk Airport attack" is counter-productive in terms of reader comprehension, and pointless. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 3 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-07-02T17:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z"></span>It actually disambiguates the airport, because there exists more than one in Turkey. What <i>is</i> counter-productive here is the assumption that all readers are ignorant and have no world view. If a bomb went off in Stansted airport, we wouldn't call it "London Airport attack", if a bomb went off in Tegel Airport, we wouldn't call it "Berlin Airport attack", so why promote the ignorance here? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man" title="User talk:The Rambling Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:55:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T00:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><b><span style="color:red;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span>PS:</span></b> Google yields <b>26.5 million</b> hits for Istanbul airport attack, <b>9.4 million</b> for Atatürk Airport attack. That's 3:1 in favor of <b>Istanbul airport attack</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z"></span>Ignorance is no defence, just because many individuals aren't past high school education standard and can't quite cope with the idea that there could be more than one airport in Turkey, let alone Istanbul. "Istanbul airport attack" is inherently ambiguous, this is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper or a blog. The redirect works just fine, and the current title is precise and accurate and verifiable. If we wish to stick to primarily American news sources, then please make that plain, in the meantime we should just be factual, not journalistic. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man" title="User talk:The Rambling Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 4 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z-Sca-2016-07-03T13:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sca-2016-07-06T01:32:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z"></span>Ignoring the facts. <a href="/wiki/User:Sca" title="User:Sca">Sca</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sca" title="User talk:Sca">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Sca-2016-07-06T01:32:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 6 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sca-2016-07-06T01:32:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sca-2016-07-06T01:32:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-07-04T20:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span>The name "Istanbul" is generally much more known than the name "Atatürk". The airport is worldwide often referred to as Istanbul International Airport. However, Atatürk is the official name of the airport, and there is already a Wikipedia article about this airport: <a href="/wiki/Istanbul_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport" class="mw-redirect" title="Istanbul Atatürk Airport">Istanbul Atatürk Airport</a>. Why not making it consistent with what already exists, and name this article 2016 Istanbul Atatürk Airport attack. It makes perfect sense. <a href="/wiki/User:My-wiki-photos" title="User:My-wiki-photos">My-wiki-photos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:My-wiki-photos" title="User talk:My-wiki-photos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 7 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z-Rename_to_2016_Atatürk_International_Airport_attack"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilyacadiz-2016-07-11T12:01:00.000Z-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z"></span>I would have voted for Istanbul airport attack, but it's consistent with Wikipedia policy to be very precise, I guess. Just looked up the attack in 2002 against a synagogue on the island of Djerba, Tunisia. I had expected "Djerba Synagogue bombing" but it reads <a href="/wiki/Ghriba_synagogue_bombing" title="Ghriba synagogue bombing">Ghriba synagogue bombing</a>, as there might be more than one synagogue on the Djerba island. If that's policy, let's stick to it. We don't have to disambiguate then if somebody undertakes a <a href="/wiki/2015_Sabiha_G%C3%B6k%C3%A7en_Airport_bombing" title="2015 Sabiha Gökçen Airport bombing">Sabiha Gökçen Airport bombing</a> next time. In fact, this already happened... <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Ilyacadiz" title="User:Ilyacadiz">Ilyacadiz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ilyacadiz" title="User talk:Ilyacadiz">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ilyacadiz" title="Special:Contributions/Ilyacadiz">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Ilyacadiz-2016-07-11T12:01:00.000Z-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 11 July 2016 (UTC)</a></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilyacadiz-2016-07-11T12:01:00.000Z-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilyacadiz-2016-07-11T12:01:00.000Z-My-wiki-photos-2016-07-07T16:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <hr /> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Background"_section_violates_NPOV" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z"><span id=".22Background.22_section_violates_NPOV"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z"></span>"Background" section violates NPOV<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: "Background" section violates NPOV"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV"></span>Large portions of the "Background" section of the article exhibit bias. The phrasing "willful blindness to [the] ISIL threat" itself violates NPOV, and moreover is apparently based solely on an op-ed in The Guardian (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSOPINION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSOPINION">WP:RSOPINION</a> for further information on op-ed sourcing). The inclusion of the lengthy (almost 2 lines) quote from a Washington Post article (also an op-ed, by the way) seems to further tilt the POV of the article. Yes, these sources can be used, but presenting information from them without attribution to their sources should be avoided; in addition, sources cannot reasonably support their associated text portions if the text inserted is only a paraphrase of the cited article's title and does not discuss the content of the source, as is the case here. I would be prepared to undertake a substantial rewrite of this section, but wanted to achieve consensus before doing so. <a href="/wiki/User:Helmut_von_Moltke" title="User:Helmut von Moltke">Helmut von Moltke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Helmut_von_Moltke" title="User talk:Helmut von Moltke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 4 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z-"Background"_section_violates_NPOV"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dschslava-2016-07-04T23:35:00.000Z-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as POV is apparent, sources op-eds, and too lazy to do it myself :P <a href="/wiki/User:Dschslava" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dschslava"><span style="color:#35b794;"><b>Dsch</b>slava</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dschslava" title="Special:Contributions/Dschslava"><span style="color:#3558b7;"><i> Δx </i></span></a></sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dschslava" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dschslava"><span style="color:#3558b7;">parlez moi</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Dschslava-2016-07-04T23:35:00.000Z-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 4 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dschslava-2016-07-04T23:35:00.000Z-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dschslava-2016-07-04T23:35:00.000Z-Helmut_von_Moltke-2016-07-04T20:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Clunky_writing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clunky_writing-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clunky_writing-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z"></span>Clunky writing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clunky_writing-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Clunky writing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moncrief-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z-Clunky_writing"></span>Sorry to complain and not do to much to fix the issues, but the writing here is really clunky for a fairly major event. I hope it can cleaned up a bit. "This happened. Then this happened. Then this happened" is pretty sloppy writing, as it "It is believed....." It's not terrible, but it's not up to usual Wiki standards for a big international new story. <a href="/wiki/User:Moncrief" title="User:Moncrief">Moncrief</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moncrief" title="User talk:Moncrief">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Moncrief-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z-Clunky_writing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 5 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moncrief-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z-Clunky_writing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moncrief-2016-07-05T20:54:00.000Z-Clunky_writing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2017-06-21T16:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2017-06-21T16:36:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2017-06-21T16:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-06-21T16:36:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, I have just modified 2 external links on <a href="/wiki/2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack" title="2016 Atatürk Airport attack">2016 Atatürk Airport attack</a>. 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No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>no consensus to move</b> the page as proposed at this time, per the discussion below. <a href="/wiki/User:Dekimasu" title="User:Dekimasu">Dekimasu</a><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dekimasu" title="User talk:Dekimasu">よ!</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Dekimasu-2018-04-17T01:30:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dekimasu-2018-04-17T01:30:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dekimasu-2018-04-17T01:30:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018"></span> </p> <hr /> <p><br /> <a href="/wiki/2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack" title="2016 Atatürk Airport attack"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018"></span>2016 Atatürk Airport attack</a> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack&redirect=no">Atatürk Airport attack</a></span> – Year not needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Unreal7" title="User:Unreal7">Unreal7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unreal7" title="User talk:Unreal7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z-Requested_move_10_April_2018"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roman_Spinner-2018-04-10T06:48:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per nomination. Sole such attack.    <a href="/wiki/User:Roman_Spinner" title="User:Roman Spinner">Roman Spinner</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Roman_Spinner" title="User talk:Roman Spinner">(talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Roman_Spinner" title="Special:Contributions/Roman Spinner">contribs)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Roman_Spinner-2018-04-10T06:48:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:48, 10 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roman_Spinner-2018-04-10T06:48:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roman_Spinner-2018-04-10T06:48:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. The proposal goes afoul of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCEVENTS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCEVENTS">WP:NCEVENTS</a>, which suggests to use the <i>When Where What</i> formula for events that do not have an established, common name, and this once certainly does not. The year here is not a part of disambiguation, but simply a part of a "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NDESC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NDESC">non-judgmental descriptive title</a>", which is supposed to help readers locate the correct article. <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">No such user</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_such_user" title="User talk:No such user">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T14:02:00.000Z-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z"></span>That's the argument that was used at <a href="/wiki/Manchester_Arena_bombing" title="Manchester Arena bombing">Manchester Arena bombing</a> before. <a href="/wiki/User:Unreal7" title="User:Unreal7">Unreal7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unreal7" title="User talk:Unreal7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T14:02:00.000Z-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T14:02:00.000Z-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Unreal7-2018-04-10T14:02:00.000Z-No_such_user-2018-04-10T10:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2018-04-10T10:42:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> per No such user. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man" title="User talk:The Rambling Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Atat%C3%BCrk_Airport_attack#c-The_Rambling_Man-2018-04-10T10:42:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2018-04-10T10:42:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2018-04-10T10:42:00.000Z-Unreal7-2018-04-10T06:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <hr /> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. 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