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Additionally, much traffic many urban areas flows on highways requiring 45 - 55 mph (72 - 88 km/h), so even 35 mph (56 km/h) vehicles would have seriously limited use in many cities. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Infrogmation" title="User:Infrogmation">Infrogmation</a> 18:04 Mar 31, 2003 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>In France urban speed limit is 45 km/h (less than 30 mph), even on many urban highways. Our streets are much narrower than in the USA causing traffic jams. Average speed in major city during the daytime is estimated to less than 20km/h. So the Detroit Electric would be just fine in many situations.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Ericd" title="User:Ericd">Ericd</a> 18:13 Mar 31, 2003 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Studies show that even modest reductions in traffic speed in urban settings lead to dramatic reductions in death and serious injury. <a href="/wiki/User:Enquire" title="User:Enquire">Enquire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enquire" title="User talk:Enquire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Speed_Limit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Speed_Limit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Speed_Limit"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B7MFB-4DS7HY1-G&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=1d8baee286dcd215c4e479a0be1ca7dd"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span>Raising the speed limit by 10 km/h significantly increases the number of people killed in road accidents</a> <a href="/wiki/American_Journal_of_Public_Health" title="American Journal of Public Health">American Journal of Public Health</a> (2004)</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/BoatsTrailersCaravans/Road+Safety/VictoriasSpeedLimits.htm">Victoria’s speed limits</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au">VicRoads</a> State of Victoria, Australia</li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd>In this case, lower speeds in urban areas seems to the way to go anyway.<a href="/wiki/User:Enquire" title="User:Enquire">Enquire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enquire" title="User talk:Enquire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Charging_the_Detroit_Electric" data-mw-thread-id="h-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span>Charging the Detroit Electric<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Detroit_Electric&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Charging the Detroit Electric"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric"></span>How were the batteries in these cars charged? </p> <dl><dd>I think it can be assumed that they were charged at home for the most part. In the UK, they used to have (maybe still do) a "white meter" which only supplied power at night during periods of low demand for lower cost than the regular "black meter" ... this was used with special cables for storage heaters in the winter. The same idea could be used to provide lower cost electricity when charging electric vehicles at night.<a href="/wiki/User:Enquire" title="User:Enquire">Enquire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enquire" title="User talk:Enquire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Charging_the_Detroit_Electric"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:02:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span>When you clearly have no information about the matters you expostulate, why not make bold abitrary assumptions instead ? Why not ? The concept of "off-peak" storage water heaters did not come into use until after WW2, long after electric cars had fallen out of use.<a href="/wiki/User:Eregli_bob" title="User:Eregli bob">Eregli bob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eregli_bob" title="User talk:Eregli bob">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:02:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 1 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:02:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:02:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company" data-mw-thread-id="h-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"><span id="Split_Article.3F_.28a.29_Original_company_.26_.28b.29_new_company"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span>Split Article? (a) Original company & (b) new company<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Detroit_Electric&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Split Article? (a) Original company & (b) new company"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span>This article was originally about a defunct company that built electric vehicles in the early 20th century. Now the rights to this company have been acquired and a new company with the same name is now in operation to supply electric vehicles in the early 21st century. Obviously this is the same company in name only and it would be logical to split this article into two ... one for the 20th century company and another for the 21st century company.<a href="/wiki/User:Enquire" title="User:Enquire">Enquire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enquire" title="User talk:Enquire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infrogmation-2008-09-04T08:48:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span>Agree. Seems to be little or no overlap between the historic company and the new one of the same name. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Infrogmation" title="User:Infrogmation">Infrogmation</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infrogmation" title="User talk:Infrogmation">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Infrogmation-2008-09-04T08:48:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infrogmation-2008-09-04T08:48:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infrogmation-2008-09-04T08:48:00.000Z-Enquire-2008-09-04T08:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span>Actually, they are one and the same. Detroit Electric survived by building specialty electric vehicles, such as Fork Lifts, Tugs, Trucks, Cranes, Mining Vehicles, and the like, although their prime competitor from the electric car days - Baker - is the better known manufacturer in the Specialty Vehicle Business. I operated both Detroit and Baker electric fork lifts while in the Army. - <a href="/wiki/User:CORNELIUSSEON" title="User:CORNELIUSSEON">SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CORNELIUSSEON" title="User talk:CORNELIUSSEON">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-01T11:53:00.000Z-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z"></span>The article says they went defunct in 1939. If that's not true, it should be changed. And it would be nice to have a source for this info. The only source we have now is a broken link. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kendall-K1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kendall-K1 (page does not exist)">Kendall-K1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kendall-K1" title="User talk:Kendall-K1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-01T11:53:00.000Z-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-01T11:53:00.000Z-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-01T11:53:00.000Z-CORNELIUSSEON-2009-03-25T17:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span>I've looked into this via the USPTO and the Michigan corporate records database, and the current registrations are new and not connected. There are previous registrations which have expired from the 2000s, the 1980s, and the 1960s, so it's very possible that other manufacturers used the name, but it's also clear that the Zap incarnation and this current Lotus incarnation aren't a continuation. I propose <a href="/w/index.php?title=Detroit_Electric_(1907_company)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Detroit Electric (1907 company) (page does not exist)">Detroit Electric (1907 company)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Detroit_Electric" title="Detroit Electric">Detroit Electric</a> for the current incarnation; both could obviously refer to each other but they aren't really the same company. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dhartung" title="User:Dhartung">Dhartung</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dhartung" title="User talk:Dhartung">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 21 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sminthopsis84-2013-03-21T14:09:00.000Z-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> the proposed split. <a href="/wiki/User:Sminthopsis84" title="User:Sminthopsis84">Sminthopsis84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sminthopsis84" title="User talk:Sminthopsis84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Sminthopsis84-2013-03-21T14:09:00.000Z-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 21 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sminthopsis84-2013-03-21T14:09:00.000Z-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sminthopsis84-2013-03-21T14:09:00.000Z-Dhartung-2013-03-21T05:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TGCP-2016-10-16T21:49:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span>Done, although <a href="/wiki/Detroit_Electric_SP.01" title="Detroit Electric SP.01">Detroit Electric SP.01</a> is used. <a href="/wiki/User:TGCP" title="User:TGCP">TGCP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TGCP" title="User talk:TGCP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-TGCP-2016-10-16T21:49:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 16 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TGCP-2016-10-16T21:49:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TGCP-2016-10-16T21:49:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.170.43.187-2018-02-14T13:16:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span>These two unrelated companies are still sharing the same article! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.170.43.187" title="Special:Contributions/75.170.43.187">75.170.43.187</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.170.43.187" title="User talk:75.170.43.187">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-75.170.43.187-2018-02-14T13:16:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 14 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.170.43.187-2018-02-14T13:16:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.170.43.187-2018-02-14T13:16:00.000Z-Split_Article?_(a)_Original_company_&_(b)_new_company"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dated_information" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dated_information-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dated_information-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"></span>Dated information<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dated_information-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Detroit_Electric&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Dated information"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z-Dated_information"></span>So how is the plan for 270,000 electric cars THIS YEAR going ? Going well ? When can I buy one, Clownish forecasts from when, 2006 ?, have no business here.<a href="/wiki/User:Eregli_bob" title="User:Eregli bob">Eregli bob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eregli_bob" title="User talk:Eregli bob">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z-Dated_information" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 1 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z-Dated_information"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z-Dated_information"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-02T11:48:00.000Z-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"></span>I tried to fix it but couldn't find anything worth salvaging so I removed the entire section. If anyone wants to put the section back in, please cite your sources, and leave the breathless ad copy out. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kendall-K1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kendall-K1 (page does not exist)">Kendall-K1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kendall-K1" title="User talk:Kendall-K1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Detroit_Electric#c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-02T11:48:00.000Z-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 2 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-02T11:48:00.000Z-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kendall-K1-2012-05-02T11:48:00.000Z-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-313-matt-2017-03-16T16:08:00.000Z-Eregli_bob-2012-05-01T12:04:00.000Z"></span>In 2016, there were 159,000 plug-in hybrids and electric vehicles sold in the US. Not sure if it is relevant to the page, though. 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