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#F3F9FF); color: var(--color-base, inherit); margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid var(--border-color-subtle, #AAAAAA);"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Star_Mississippi-20241130024900"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this page.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result was <b>Procedural Keep</b>‎. Nominator was a sock and no one is arguing for deletion. Any editor in good standing is welcome to renominate this in less time than normal if there is merit, although recommend the AtD discussion as was mentioned here before returning to AfD. Speedy is not applicable as the AfD has run its normal time, otherwise that would be fine too. <a href="/wiki/User:Star_Mississippi" title="User:Star Mississippi"><span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Star_Mississippi" title="User talk:Star Mississippi"><span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Star_Mississippi-20241130024900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Star_Mississippi-20241130024900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Star_Mississippi-20241130024900"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Convent_Wood" data-mw-thread-id="h-Convent_Wood-20241123035800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Convent_Wood-20241123035800"></span><a href="/wiki/Convent_Wood" title="Convent Wood">Convent Wood</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Convent_Wood-20241123035800"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Convent Wood" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jinnllee90-20241123035800-Convent_Wood"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248391630">.mw-parser-output .afd-help{border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:88%;line-height:1.5em;padding:0.4em}.mw-parser-output .afd-help .user-show{float:right}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .afd-help{width:24em;clear:right;float:right;margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em}.mw-parser-output .afd-help ul{margin-left:2.6em}}</style> <div class="afd-help afd-help-box"> <p><span class="user-show"><a href="/wiki/Template:AFD_help#Hiding_the_box" title="Template:AFD help">[Hide this box]</a></span> New to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">Articles for deletion</a> (AfD)? 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You can redirect with <a href="/wiki/Great_North_Wood" title="Great North Wood">Great North Wood</a> which offers a broader concept of the topic. <a href="/wiki/User:Jinnllee90" title="User:Jinnllee90">Jinnllee90</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jinnllee90" title="User talk:Jinnllee90">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Jinnllee90-20241123035800-Convent_Wood" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jinnllee90-20241123035800-Convent_Wood"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jinnllee90-20241123035800-Convent_Wood"></span> </p> <ul><li><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyberbot_I-20241123041200-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span>Automated comment:</b> This AfD was not correctly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TRANSCLUDE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TRANSCLUDE">transcluded</a> to the log (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFDHOWTO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFDHOWTO">step 3</a>). I have transcluded it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2024_November_23" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 November 23">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 November 23</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Cyberbot_I" title="User:Cyberbot I"><sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot I</sup></a><small><sub style="margin-left:-13.5ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyberbot_I" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Cyberbot I"><span style="color:green">Talk to my owner</span></a>:Online</sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Cyberbot_I-20241123041200-Jinnllee90-20241123035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyberbot_I-20241123041200-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyberbot_I-20241123041200-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></li> <li><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wcquidditch-20241123063900-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span>Note: This discussion has been included in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting">deletion sorting</a> lists for the following topics: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Geography" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Geography">Geography</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/England" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/England">England</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Wcquidditch" title="User:Wcquidditch"><span style="color:red">WC</span><i><span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span></i></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wcquidditch" title="User talk:Wcquidditch"><span style="color:red">☎</span></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wcquidditch" title="Special:Contributions/Wcquidditch"><span style="color:#999933">✎</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Wcquidditch-20241123063900-Jinnllee90-20241123035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wcquidditch-20241123063900-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wcquidditch-20241123063900-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_James-20241123223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span>This should probably be closed; instead <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging#Proposing_a_merge" title="Wikipedia:Merging">propose merging</a> and redirecting the article as an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ATD-M" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ATD-M">alternative to deletion</a>. I don't know why the sources would be considered unreliable but they don't do anything more than mention the name and show it as part of the Great North Wood - if it created recently it would have probably been moved to the Draft namespace. It is also not original research to use maps, depending on how they are used, it's just that a name and symbol on a map is not significant coverage. Sources not currently in the article should also be considered (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NEXIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NEXIST">WP:NEXIST</a>), and some can be found including <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.wildlondon.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-06/GNW%20Toolkit.pdf">https://www.wildlondon.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-06/GNW%20Toolkit.pdf</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Wood_that_Built_London/vgQ_EAAAQBAJ">https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Wood_that_Built_London/vgQ_EAAAQBAJ</a>, also <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://insidecroydon.com/2022/05/18/great-north-wood-under-threat-from-holy-orders-3-5m-scheme/">https://insidecroydon.com/2022/05/18/great-north-wood-under-threat-from-holy-orders-3-5m-scheme/</a> (although I'm unsure of its reliability and there could be better sources for it). <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_James" title="User:Peter James">Peter James</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_James" title="User talk:Peter James">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Peter_James-20241123223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_James-20241123223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_James-20241123223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SportingFlyer-20241124024700-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span>Keep</b> or at the very least merge if there's a good merge target - a before search brings up some coverage, including multiple references in <i>The Wood that Built London</i> (looks like it's been linked above already). Also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TOOSOON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TOOSOON">WP:TOOSOON</a> appears used here to talk about an under-developed article, and not about a speculative future event. <a href="/wiki/User:SportingFlyer" title="User:SportingFlyer">SportingFlyer</a> <i><span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SportingFlyer" title="User talk:SportingFlyer">T</a></span></i>·<i><span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer" title="Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer">C</a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-SportingFlyer-20241124024700-Jinnllee90-20241123035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SportingFlyer-20241124024700-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SportingFlyer-20241124024700-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ponyo-20241127223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span>CU note</b> nominator blocked as a checkuser confirmed sock.-- <a href="/wiki/User:Ponyo" title="User:Ponyo"><span style="color: Navy;"><b>Ponyo</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ponyo" title="User talk:Ponyo"><span style="color: Navy;"><i>bons mots</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Ponyo-20241127223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ponyo-20241127223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ponyo-20241127223800-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dclemens1971-20241130012500-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span>Speedy keep</b> with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPASR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPASR">WP:NPASR</a> due to nomination by a sock. <a href="/wiki/User:Dclemens1971" title="User:Dclemens1971">Dclemens1971</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dclemens1971" title="User talk:Dclemens1971">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Convent_Wood#c-Dclemens1971-20241130012500-Jinnllee90-20241123035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:25, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dclemens1971-20241130012500-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dclemens1971-20241130012500-Jinnllee90-20241123035800"></span></li></ul> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). 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