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You could also send an email to the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Stewards" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Stewards">stewards</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/VRT" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/VRT">VRT</a> queue at <kbd>stewards@wikimedia.org</kbd> including all above details.</div></div><hr /> <p>You can view and copy the source of this page. </p><textarea readonly="" accesskey="," id="wpTextbox1" cols="80" rows="25" style="" class="mw-editfont-monospace" lang="en" dir="ltr" name="wpTextbox1">{{Talkarchive}} == Creating Wikidata items for all categories == Hi all. We're about half way through the process of linking Commons categories with Wikidata items - we now have [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox|3.6 million categories displaying the multilingual infobox]]. I would like to see this increased so that all Commons categories are linked with Wikidata items and use the infobox. This means creating new Wikidata items for the categories where there aren't potential matches with existing Wikidata items. I've started an RfC about this at: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Creating_new_Wikidata_items_for_all_Commons_categories Please comment there if you're interested in this! Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:04, 26 December 2021 (UTC)}} == Automatic category adding == Please admin or who has access to locked template page, make automatic category/categories adding in a such way it is first first name and not surname. [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3ASa%C5%A1a_Kova%C4%8Devi%C4%87&type=revision&diff=626673221&oldid=626673068 Example of wrong categories] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20220201205932/https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3ASa%C5%A1a_Kova%C4%8Devi%C4%87&type=revision&diff=626673221&oldid=626673068 archive], [https://archive.is/iU9I4 archive 2]). --[[Special:Contributions/5.43.74.120|5.43.74.120]] 21:01, 1 February 2022 (UTC) :It is not clear what you think is wrong, in your example. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 10:59, 2 February 2022 (UTC) :: I think they want the category renaming. This isn't the place to discuss that. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:36, 2 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:36, 2 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Day of week categories == {{tl|edit request}} Please delete the following lines in [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/core]]: <code> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235670 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Sunday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235673 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Saturday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235676 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Wednesday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235680 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Friday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235684 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Tuesday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235687 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Monday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q235690 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Common years starting on Thursday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217041 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Sunday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217026 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Saturday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217015 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Wednesday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217036 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Friday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217034 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Tuesday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217024 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Monday]]}}<!--</nowiki> <nowiki>-->{{#if:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|checkvalue | val=Q217019 | P31 | qid={{{qid|}}}}}|[[Category:Leap years starting on Thursday]]}}<!--</nowiki> </code> All of these categories have been redirected, and the target categories (''e.g.'', compare [[:Category:Common years starting on Sunday]] with [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Sunday]]) are already present on the pages containing these values, so the special categorization rule appears no longer necessary. --[[User:R&#39;n&#39;B|R&#39;n&#39;B]] ([[User talk:R&#39;n&#39;B|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC) : It was {{ping|Pigsonthewing}} that wanted these adding in the first place, any comments? I'll implement this soon if not. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC) ::Thank you, Mike, for the ping. It's my view that the code should be updated, and the manual categorisation be removed from the affected categories, in favour of the infobox. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 20:54, 16 July 2021 (UTC) {{ping|Verdy p}} This was the discussion I referred to in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core/sandbox&diff=583459540&oldid=583294214]. To emphasise, it needs a discussion here before a decision can be made. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC) : {{ping|Mike Peel}} And that's why I removed these 14 lines from the SANDBOX version, and I FULLY tested them (with the sandbox): they are NEVER needed. : I have NOT changed the base tempalte, but the '''sandbox is exactly what is needed to propose (and properly test) a change to the base template'''. That's what I did. I was explicitly requested to find a solution and tested it live. Reverting this test (which is conclusive and successful) is very unproductful and will not help anyone. : Please remove these 14 lines, they are NEVER needed anywhere (not even in any of the ~2000 year categories where they are occuring and which are ALWAYS incorrect). And you'll save code/time/mempory in the Infobox for all the many other pages (the Infobox makes too much guesses and breaks often due to its giant size: this saves significant number of calls to Wikidata, memory, CPU time...). All the autocategorization is handled directly and correctly in a single template call used in all these pages, without needing any support from the infobox. : The infobox makes TOO much things, and too much guesses. It uses too much resources when it's not needed at all (autocategorization in the Infobox is just a temporary helper that should be limited as it is very costly on too many unrelated pages). : And you '''forgot the more recent discussion''' I had publicly here: '''[[Template talk:Yearcategory]]'''. (that nav template is fully functional and has NO problem at all, only the infobox is currently wrong). The deletion was also requested since more than one year. Only one user requested it, the code above was added (and locked) without any prior test or discussion, it has never worked. [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC) ::It was requested by {{ping|Pigsonthewing}}. So far {{Ping|R&#39;n&#39;B|Verdy p}} have opposed it, not sure what {{Ping|迴廊彼端}} thinks. I'd like to see more input before deciding what to do here. For now, I'll implement a fix rather than removing it. In term of performance, it's negligible compared to the rest of the template. In terms of discussion elsewhere, it helps to have the discussion here so people see it - or at least ping others to include them in the discussion. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:15, 20 August 2021 (UTC) ::: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core/sandbox&diff=583482646&oldid=583476043 fix implemented in the sandbox]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC) :: This is '''demonstrated now in ALL year categories''', that no longer place these false categories. All the correct onees are in the "YearCategory" template already. Nothing in these 14 lines should be kept (this is the only fix to do, no need to change names in the 14 lines, they are NEVER needed anywhere, all the pages needing them are using the Yearcategory template, and optionally invoking the infobox). :: Just before you have reverted the infobox sandbox, all these 14 redirected categoriers were empty, as appropriate, now they start being fed again (unnecessarily) by the infobox whereas the correct categorty is already in the "Yearcategory" template. :: Can't you understand that? You abuse you power if you don't allow anyone to use a sandbox that is meant to demonstrate that everything is OK to make the removal proposed multiple times by multiple users. :: I've made all the required tests, according to existing policies. You just break things again and block the solution even if it's simple ! [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC) :: And Mike, ~this is YOU that have made the editwar here, acting blindly and rejecteing multiple requests, and rejecting any test of a demonstrated solution for something correctly tested and requested since molkng in multiple discussions; I made the correct test to demosntrate that these deletions were appropriate!! [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) :::{{ping|Verdy p}} The sandbox is used to test features before deploying them, I queue things up in there before making an edit to keep edits to the main template to a minimum. It can't show that something isn't being used, you can't do that unless you do something daft like switch all year categories to the sandbox, which you should never do. It's simple to remove these lines - but the question asked here is *whether* they should be removed. Right now you're mostly adding noise to that discussion. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC) ::: No you pollute the discussion by not seeinh the demonstration thatI made showing that all these redirected categories (about 600 were including the infobox) were now empty, and still not missing the correct category. ::: I've used the sandbox properly to test and demosntrate that these 14 lines (to add a single broken category) were not needed at all and could be safely removed. They are NEVER useful for anything. But now with your revert in the sandbox we see the problem occuring again and the tests are now failing, when they were successful with the sandbox Infobox not containing these 14 lines! ::: We never need these lines in the Infobox, nowhere! And it is necessary to remove them to allow working with other calendars than the Gregorian calendar (including the Julian calendar for example).And wikiata contains many fake entries tat cinrrectly give the incorrect weekdays, it has lot of work to do to properly handle other calendars and make correct data calculation, but in Commons the tempaltes dod the correct thing without using the infobox autocategorization importing things blindly (even when they are incorrect)... [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:49, 20 August 2021 (UTC) === Category redirect usage fix request === The {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/core|/core}} subtemplate has coding pointing to the following categories, which should be moved to their current names (assuming these are used at all): *[[:Category:Common years starting on Friday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Friday]] *[[:Category:Common years starting on Monday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Monday]] *[[:Category:Common years starting on Saturday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Saturday]] *[[:Category:Common years starting on Sunday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Sunday]] *[[:Category:Common years starting on Thursday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Thursday]] *[[:Category:Common years starting on Tuesday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Tuesday]] *[[:Category:Common years starting on Wednesday]] → [[:Category:Common years starting and ending on Wednesday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Friday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Friday and ending on Saturday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Monday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Monday and ending on Tuesday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Saturday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Saturday and ending on Sunday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Sunday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Sunday and ending on Monday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Thursday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Thursday and ending on Friday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Tuesday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Tuesday and ending on Wednesday]] *[[:Category:Leap years starting on Wednesday]] → [[:Category:Leap years starting on Wednesday and ending on Thursday]] Thank you. -'''''[[User:Brainulator9|B<small>RAINULATOR</small>9]] ([[User talk:Brainulator9|TALK]])''''' 03:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC) {{ping|Brainulator9}} I've merged this with a related discussion, please see just above this. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Automatic category adding 2 == Please admin or who has access to locked template page, make automatic category/categories adding in a such way it is first first name and not surname. [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3ASa%C5%A1a_Kova%C4%8Devi%C4%87&type=revision&diff=626673221&oldid=626673068 Example of wrong categories] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20220201205932/https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3ASa%C5%A1a_Kova%C4%8Devi%C4%87&type=revision&diff=626673221&oldid=626673068 archive], [https://archive.is/iU9I4 archive 2]). --[[Special:Contributions/5.43.74.120|5.43.74.120]] 15:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC) : You need to discuss this at [[Category talk:Saša Kovačević]], there's nothing that can be done about this here. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)}} == {{P|7163}} == Hello. It would be great for categories such as [[:Category:Bird stores]] if this property was displayed in the Infobox. Can someone implement that? [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:47, 9 November 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|Thierry Caro}} This is now in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please test. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:56, 2 February 2022 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Mike Peel}} It feels like it works fine! [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC) This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Celestial coordinates problem == Because Wikidata saves celestial coordinates in 360 degree decimal format (see P6257 and P6258), rather than H M S ° ' " format, the Infobox link to Wikisky shows the wrong location because Wikisky interprets the input as celestial hour/degree decimals rather than 360 degree decimals. For example, on [[:Category:PDS 70]], the link goes to [http://www.wikisky.org/?ra=212.04231047407&de=-41.397937958193&show_grid=1&show_constellation_lines=1&show_constellation_boundaries=1&show_const_names=1&show_galaxies=1&img_source=DSS2&zoom=10] whereas it should go to [http://www.wikisky.org/?ra=14.1361540&de=-41.397937958193&show_grid=1&show_constellation_lines=1&show_constellation_boundaries=1&show_const_names=1&show_galaxies=1&img_source=DSS2&zoom=10]. See also [[:Category:Andromeda Galaxy]], [[:Category:Orion Nebula]], etc etc. I honestly do not know how to fix this problem, other than entirely remove it. If that issue can be fixed, here's a couple of other minor things: I'd suggest changing "img_source=IMG_all" to "img_source=DSS2", since this by default presents a clearer sky picture than the hodgepodge of photographs that make up the current default; and change the zoom factor from 7 to 9, while this would make already major objects a bit too big, the vast majority of stars and other celestial objects are almost impossible to pick out at lower zoom factors. <span style="white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:gray 5px 3px 1px;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 16:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC) :{{ping|Huntster}} For the main issue, see my reply below. For the other two, I've also changed these in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please have a look and see if it works as you expect. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC) This is now fixed. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:21, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:21, 19 February 2022 (UTC)}} == {{P|833}} == Hello. Having this property displayed would be quite useful for categories such as [[:Category:Gare de Besançon-Viotte]]. Can we make this happen? [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Thierry Caro}} It's now in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please have a look and see if that works as expected. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Mike Peel}} I can see no bug! It's ready. [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:30, 2 February 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Thierry Caro}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:20, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:20, 19 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Super-wide infobox for Andromeda Galaxy? == Hi Mike! The infobox of [[:Category:Andromeda Galaxy]] is super wide because of a reason that is a bit unclear to me... any idea? Thanks, [[User:Spinster|Spinster]] ([[User talk:Spinster|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:14, 26 January 2022 (UTC) :After some back-and-forth investigation: the infobox looks OK for me in Firefox 94.0.1 (Mac OS 10.13.6) but stretches very wide in Chrome 97.0.4692.71. It's the wikisky.org link that doesn't break properly there. [[User:Spinster|Spinster]] ([[User talk:Spinster|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC) ::{{u|Spinster}}: I think I've fixed it. The WD entry had two entries for RA and DEC. I've deprecated the older of the two for each. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 16:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Huntster|Huntster]]: it indeed looks good in Chrome as well now! Thank you so much! [[User:Spinster|Spinster]] ([[User talk:Spinster|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:16, 26 January 2022 (UTC) ::::{{u|Spinster}}: Not a problem. Of course, all infobox links to Sky-Map are of zero value right now, as Sky-Map uses "RA (hours) DEC (deg)" rather than the more standard "RA (deg) DEC (deg)" that's used by entities like SIMBAD and NED. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 16:27, 26 January 2022 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Huntster}} Thanks for spotting that! It should be fixed in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} now (RA in degrees / 15 = hours), could you test it to make sure it's working as expected? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC) ::::::{{u|Mike Peel}}, oh my, I didn't think it would be such a simple thing to fix. Thanks for that, but.... ::::::I admit that I messed up my previous comment: hour/deg is the more common compared to deg/deg, and is what's used by Sky-Map, SIMBAD, NED, etc. The problem is that when *decimal* formatting is used, that's when ''some'' sources switch to deg/deg. Further complicating it is that {{P|P6257}} dictates using deg/deg without being very apparent about it, and Sky-Map needs a weird decimal version of hour/deg passed to it to function, as you've deduced. ''sigh''. Some WD items use decimal hour/deg, some use decimal deg/deg. I'm trying to think of a way to make it more apparent to users which format should be used for that Property, but nothing feels right. So, now I'm questioning whether a "fix" here should be done at all, or if this is a "screw it" moment and force any fixes on WD. I don't know a good way forward and my head honestly hurts because it's such a mess and my time is becoming increasingly limited by work. I'd appreciate your thoughts. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC) :::::::Heck, at this point I may just be confusing myself, I don't know anymore. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:26, 3 February 2022 (UTC) ::::::::{{ping|Huntster}} Measuring RA in Hours is kinda old-fashioned, and is more an optical thing. I tend to work more in Galactic coordinates, where degrees are always used. But decimal hours are even weirder, which is why I didn't expect to see them! {{P|P6257}} does have the constraint that the value should be in degrees, and it looks like that is how it is being used, I can't spot any that are using hours? I think for now the solution is to assume degrees, and convert here to hours for the Wikisky link, and to try to get Wikidata to be consistent - and if that doesn't work then we can revisit this to do something more complex. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:04, 4 February 2022 (UTC) :::::::::Yes, yours makes plenty of sense. I appreciate you discussing this and working on the fix. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:52, 5 February 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Spinster|Huntster}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Lyricist/lyrics by (P676) == {{tl|Edit request}} Please add {{P|P676}}, e.g. for infoboxes related to musicals or popular songs. In some cases this is the same person as {{P|87}}, but not always, as ''{{C|A Grand Night for Singing}}'' fails to mention Hammerstein, of the famous songwriting duo {{w|Rodgers and Hammerstein}} and ''{{C|Dearest Enemy}}'' omits the lyricist of {{W|Rodgers and Hart}}. Display-wise (visually), I think P676 should appear below {{P|86}} and above {{P|87}}. Thanks. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:30, 31 January 2022 (UTC) :Please don't use {{tl|Edit request}} unless you are providing code or text that can be substituted. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Animalparty}} It's now in the sandbox, please try {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} to make sure it's working as you expect it to. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC) ::{{reply|Mike Peel}} Thanks, this edit seems to work well and look good where I've tested it. "{{C|Take Me Out to the Ball Game}}" (sung by every American at every professional baseball game in every 7th-inning ever) gives credit to lyricist {{C|Jack Norworth}}. Meanwhile, "{{C|God Bless America}}" indicates {{C|Irving Berlin}} was both the composer and lyricist, and ''{{C|A Grand Night for Singing}}'' allocates credit to the composer, lyricist, and some guy who libretted. I still think qualifiers should be suppressed for most if not all fields (excepting perhaps marriage dates; Wikidata is unfiltered trivial pedantry run amok, Commons should be filtered, tastefully arrayed presentation), but that's a dog for a different derby. Cheers. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:13, 5 February 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Animalparty}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Errors at [[Pacific_Ocean]] == I am not sure how to fix lua errors at [[Pacific_Ocean]]. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:51, 17 February 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Jarekt}} It's caused by too many values of {{P|P200}}. I've added a maximum of 20 in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, will deploy that soon. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC) Fix is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC)}} == Identifiers for monuments in Germany == Hello {{Ping|Mike Peel}} the Infobox currently shows the value of property [[:d:Property:P4244]] for monuments in Bavaria (for example [[:Category:Falterstraße_24_(Dettelbach)]] -> ''BLfD-ID: D-6-75-117-42''). Would it be possible to add/display also the newer property [[:d:Property:P9339]] for Bavarian monuments? The advantage of this property is, that is has a formatter URL, so it can be linked to an external website, for example: https://geoportal.bayern.de/denkmalatlas/searchResult.html?objtyp=bau&koid=62066 Other monument IDs for Germany are * [[:d:Property:P1708]] * [[:d:Property:P1769]] * [[:d:Property:P2081]] * [[:d:Property:P2424]] * [[:d:Property:P6102]] * [[:d:Property:P7900]] * [[:d:Property:P9148]] some of them have a formatter URL and there could be made clickable in the Infobox. Thanks a lot! --[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC) : Zur Info {{Ping|Derzno|Rufus46|Edelmauswaldgeist|Ordercrazy|Z thomas}} Zur Info --[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:06, 20 February 2022 (UTC) : {{Ping|Mike Peel}} please add [[:d:Property:P9342]] as well and stay tuned for "Ensembles". These are currently requested on top. (adding {{ping|Looniverse}}) --[[User:Derzno|Derzno]] ([[User talk:Derzno|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|M2k~dewiki|Derzno}} Now in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please test and make sure it's working as expected. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Hello {{Ping|Mike Peel}} i have checked <nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}</nowiki> with * [[:Category:Falterstraße 24 (Dettelbach)]] (P4244 / P9339) * [[:Category:Andreaskirche (Berlin-Wannsee)]] (P2424) * [[:Category:Rathaus Bad Liebenwerda]] (P2081) * [[:Category:Altes Rathaus (Hofheim am Taunus)]] (P1769) * [[:Category:Kirche (Riebrau)]] (P7900) * [[:Category:Am Weißeweg 15 (Seifhennersdorf)]] (P1708) * [[:Category:Schloss Benkendorf]] (P9148) * [[:Category:Marienkirche (Rendsburg)]] (P6102) from * [[:Category:Cultural_heritage_monuments_in_Germany_and_Wikidata]] For me it looks fine, from my point of view the change could be added to the productive template as well. Thanks a lot! {{Ping|Giorgio Michele|Muck50}} zur Info, also see [[:de:Vorlage_Diskussion:Tabellenzeile_Baudenkmal_Bayern#Bayerische-Denkmal-Atlas-ID_als_zusätzliche_optionale,_klickbare_Spalte?]] --[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC) :{{Ping|Mike Peel}} for it looks fine for me either. Thanks for your support and I'll keep you posted if the last one will be proofen in Wikidata to apply. --[[User:Derzno|Derzno]] ([[User talk:Derzno|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC) : Hello {{Ping|Mike Peel}} when will the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWikidata_Infobox%2Fcore%2Fsandbox&type=revision&diff=631282133&oldid=630943916 recent changes for identifiers for monuments in Germany in the infobox-sandbox] be applied to the productive template for the productive infobox as well? Is there anything left for me to do (like additonal tests, etc.)? Thanks a lot! --[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) ::{{ping|M2k~dewiki}} It's now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)}} ==No need to display reason for deprecation or reason for promotion== See for example: [[:Category:Ludwig_Gottlieb_Friedrich_von_Erlanger]] where we are displaying the reason the full-date was promoted over the year-only date. I started a discussion at Wikidata about demoting year-only dates, and the consensus was to promote the full-date instead. I wanted to have a bot do the work, but no one is interested, so maybe we can solve the situation here. Recently a bot has been combing through sources to add in birth dates and death dates from Identifiers, the problem is that most Identifiers use year-only dates, and the bots add them even when we already have a full-date. The result is duplication and both display. I assume this is because we occasionally have two conflicting full-birth-dates or full-death-dates for people. In those cases we want to display both until one is deprecated or promoted. There is really no need to display year-only dates when we have a full-date, it is confusing and looks bad esthetically. Can we: *Not display the reason for deprecation or promotion. *Not display the year-only when we ''already have'' a full-date. Sometimes the year only is off by a year, because it was back calculated from their age at death listed in an obituary. Or maybe someone ''here'' will be able to make a bot that will promote the full-date at Wikidata. We have over 100,000 examples of this. Thanks for reading! --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC) :I second this request. I think in many cases qualifiers don't need to be displayed at all. They are primarily bookkeeping tasks for robots and data purists. They often look confusing and cluttered in infoboxes. Infoboxes need not display the messy trivial guts or metadata of items. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC) {{Ping|Mike Peel}} Could you please address this, so that reasons for deprecation or preferred rank are not displayed? See also [[:Category:Albert Ellsworth Thomas]] for more ugly, useless data clutter. Wikidata gnomes will increasingly qualify statements with more refinements until the end of time. Infoboxes should be simple, elegant, and resistant to changes in display. Thanks in advance. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC) Now resolved. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)}} == Please disable "reason for preferred rank" and similar qualifiers== {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox|qid=Q23603371}} Happy 2022. I'm reviving an [[Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox#No_need_to_display_reason_for_deprecation_or_reason_for_promotion|unresolved issue from exactly 1 year ago]]. Would it be too much to ask to disable the appending of "reason for preferred rank" qualifiers? See birth date at [[:Category:Gertrude Mary Woodward]] and the previous discussion for examples. This seems to be a data curation issue relevant only Wikidata that has nearly zero educational or utilitarian value on Commons, where the template lies. If this ubiquitous infobox is to be the be-all, do-all, omnipresent factor of Commons categories, it should be honed to provide only high quality useful information, not trivial metadata cruft. Why should Commons users care why a given value is in the box? Why should they care how many other values are not shown? As I've said before, infoboxes should be simple, elegant, and rather buffered against unwarranted changes in display. Cheers, [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:09, 2 January 2022 (UTC) :{{support}} [[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] ([[User talk:MSGJ|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC) :{{support}} wholeheartedly. This qualifier is being used by a particular editor extensively for spaceflight related material, which is already data-dense. We don't need such metadata showing through. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 15:13, 12 January 2022 (UTC) With the currently available Lua code (in WikidataIB), you can either show none, all, or selected qualifiers. You can't say 'all but this one'. Given that {{ping|RexxS}} isn't around any more to help maintain that, I think this has to be a {{not done}}. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:57, 15 January 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Mike Peel}} Can qualifiers be disabled entirely for certain fields, regardless of property? Such that , for instance, date of birth/death not display ''any'' qualifiers? Honestly I think that would be an improvement over the current situation. We might lose the "age at death" qualifier found in some entries, but I'd rather omit that then boldly display meaningless crap. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:13, 15 January 2022 (UTC) ::{{s}} --[[User:Marsupium|Marsupium]] ([[User talk:Marsupium|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC) ::'''Note''': I'm not as familiar with how ugly and awful this looks in other items (geographical locales, astronomical entities), but the birth and death dates for a ''whole lot more human items'' are soon going to get a lot messier ("most precise value" galore) as [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BorkedBot&diff=1558085955&oldid=1558077275 BorkedBot is doing what bots do best], leaving humans to deal with the resulting mess. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC) :{{support}} I came here just to bring up the issue, good to see others disapprove, it only makes sense if other values are displayed, and we only need to display the most precise value. Someone mentioned "age at death", is that currently in the template? I would want that. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:42, 8 March 2022 (UTC) Code prepared in sandbox to omit {{P|P7452}} and {{P|P2241}}. It will also require an edit to [[Module:WikidataIB]]. If this looks good I will put in edit requests [[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] ([[User talk:MSGJ|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:40, 14 March 2022 (UTC) :{{u|MSGJ}}, testing the sandbox version, it seems to remove most/all sub-properties from displaying, rather than just the targeted ones. For example, apply the sandbox to {{c|New York City}}, {{c|Ceres (dwarf planet)}}, or {{c|Al-Tabari}}. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 21:24, 14 March 2022 (UTC) ::It's because the [[Module:WikidataIB/sandbox]] has been updated but [[Module:WikidataIB]] has not been yet. I had prepared the code in [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/core/sandbox]] ready for when it has been. [[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] ([[User talk:MSGJ|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC) :::In that case, I'll trust your judgement that all is ready to go since I'm too dumb to figure module testing out. Thanks for your work! <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 22:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC) ::::There are more tests at [[Module talk:WikidataIB/sandbox]] with examples from the items you referenced above [[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] ([[User talk:MSGJ|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:16, 15 March 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|MSGJ}} Thanks for working on this. Let me check this (probably at the weekend) and if it all looks OK then I'll make the edits live? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:23, 15 March 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} I have implemented changes to [[Module:WikidataIB]] so it is now possible to test the template sandbox. Let me know if you have any queries &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|MSGJ}} Thanks, checked, and all looks good. I was wondering whether it might have been computationally less expensive to leave qual=ALL unless needed, but looking at how you've coded it I don't think it makes any difference in terms of CPU cycles. I'll include it in the next update of the infobox. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:08, 18 March 2022 (UTC) This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)}} == Add Berlin Street ID P10451 == Please add https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P10451 - so it is clear to the user it is an official street and also which one it is, since names of streets are not unique in Berlin. [[User:BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin|BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin]] ([[User talk:BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin}} Now in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please test. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:10, 18 March 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} tested on several pages and looks good. Thank you! Please ping again when in main code. Thank you! [[User:BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin|BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin]] ([[User talk:BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel|Jarekt}} can one of you copy [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=641106242 this addition] to [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/core]] ? There are now 10000+ IDs in Wikidata and linking streets in WD with streets in Commons and controlling data could be a bit easier if the IDs are shown in Commons. [[User:BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin|BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin]] ([[User talk:BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 March 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|BerlinBerlinBerlinBerlin}} OK, this is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)}} == Uses of Wikidata Infobox for taxons == Not sure what is happening, but it looks like this category is being emptied: [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox for taxons]]. Already from 275k to 78.078 [[User:Rudolphous|Rudolphous]] ([[User talk:Rudolphous|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:28, 13 March 2022 (UTC) :Already found it some cats are not used anymore and cache is catching up. [[User:Rudolphous|Rudolphous]] ([[User talk:Rudolphous|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:10, 13 March 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Rudolphous}} Yes, per [[Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/01/Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox for taxons]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC) The category has now been deleted. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)}} == Identifiers_for_monuments_in_Germany/2 == Hello {{Ping|Mike Peel}} please add [[Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox/Archive_5#Identifiers_for_monuments_in_Germany|according to this request]] now [[:d:Property:P10486]] for monument ensembles in Bavaria (for example [[:Category:Ensemble_Altstadt_Betzenstein_mit_Burg]] -> ''BLfD-ID: E-4-72-118-1''). thx --[[User:Derzno|Derzno]] ([[User talk:Derzno|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:54, 14 March 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Derzno}} Now in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please check. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:13, 18 March 2022 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Mike Peel}} it looks good! Let's go and thx for your support. --[[User:Derzno|Derzno]] ([[User talk:Derzno|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Derzno}} OK, this is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)}} == Link to {{P|9371}} and {{P|10539}} == {{tl|Edit request}} Hello, would it be possible to add a link to these two external authorities?--[[User:Le Petit Chat|Le Petit Chat]] ([[User talk:Le Petit Chat|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Le Petit Chat}} These are now in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please could you test that and make sure it works as expected? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:52, 29 April 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Thanks. It seems to work perfectly: [[User:Le Petit Chat/test]]. -- [[User:Le Petit Chat|Le Petit Chat]] ([[User talk:Le Petit Chat|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:31, 29 April 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Le Petit Chat}} Now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)}} == Obsolete logo still showing up == See [[:Category:AUVASA]] and [[:wikidata:Q5712430]] --[[User:Robot8A|Robot8A]] ([[User talk:Robot8A|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:04, 11 May 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Robot8A}} I see the new logo? Try [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:AUVASA?action=purge purging the cache] to see if that helps, or make a null edit? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks, seems to be that. My mistake then. Best --[[User:Robot8A|Robot8A]] ([[User talk:Robot8A|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)}} == Incorrect display in the infobox == Wenn die Infobox auf [[:Category:Dutch-language surnames]] eingeblendet wird, zeigt sie statt den Inhalt von {{q|Q7886503}}, den Inhalt von {{q|Q22813575}} an. Wird der Parameter {{p|P301}} aus {{q|Q7886503}} entfernt, zeigt sie den korrekten Inhalt von {{q|Q7886503}} in der Infobox an. Am Beispiel von [[:Category:English-language surnames]] kann man sehen, wie es ohne den Parameter {{p|P301}} auf {{q|Q7598401}} korrekt in der Infobox angezeigt wird. <small>(When the infobox on [[:Category:Dutch-language surnames]] is displayed, it shows the content of {{q|Q22813575}} instead of the content of {{q|Q7886503}}. If the parameter {{p|P301}} is removed from {{q|Q7886503}}, it shows the correct content of {{q|Q7886503}} in the infobox. Using the example of [[:Category:English-language surnames]], you can see how it is correctly displayed in the infobox without the parameter {{p|P301}} to {{q|Q7598401}}.)</small> --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:22, 8 September 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|HarryNº2}} Yes, this is the normal operation of the template, it looks OK to me? If the {{P|P301}} value is incorrect, would {{P|P971}} be better? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC) :: {{ping|Mike Peel}} Hi Mike, please have a look at the content of the [[:Category:German-language surnames|German Infobox]] and the content of the [[:Category:Dutch-language surnames|Dutch Infobox]]. Both show different content. The Dutch infobox shows the wrong result ('''family name in the Netherlands'''). Only when I delete the parameter {{p|P301}} on Wikidata (as in the example of the German Infobox) will the correct content be displayed ('''Category:German-language surnames'''). You are also welcome to have a look at the other info boxes (e.g. Danish, English, French etc.) for comparison, which always show '''Category:Xxxxx-language surnames''', but only if parameter P301 is not set. I hope you understand what i mean. --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC) {{Section resolved|This is intened behavior|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Doctoral student == Can "Doctoral student" be made collapsable and collapse automatically if there are more than 3 students? Someone on Wikidata is working on importing a lot of mathematics doctoral advisor/student information and it's making some infoboxes very unwieldy because most doctoral students don't have categories. See [[:Category:H. Blaine Lawson]] as an example. --[[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC) :I second this request. Infoboxes of any kind are not intended to display all possible information but to succinctly display select relevant info. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:24, 10 January 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Collapsed if more than 4 students.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Collapsible-collapse vs Hide == Hi, There is an issue with how this template works: When it's loaded, it initially shows the message "Collapsible-collapse" ({{int:Collapsible-collapse}}) at the top next to the title, and as the page is loaded, it is replaced with the message "Hide" {{int:Hide}}. It may look correct in English, but actually it is wrong. "Hide" is intended for use in compound messages on Recent Changes, such as "Hide transclusions". In other languages, such as Hebrew, it is shown incorrectly. Can this be fixed? If you really want the word "Hide" and not "Collapse" to be shown, the easiest current solution that will work well across (hopefully) all languages is probably to use "Hidetoc" ({{int:Hidetoc}}). Some time in 2021, when [[:mw:Translatable modules|Translatable modules]] (hopefully) become available, it will be easy to create a message just for this. (It may seem unintuitive, but reusing messages in different contexts is usually not great, and it's better to create new ones even if they are identical to existing messages.) --[[User:Amire80|Amir E. Aharoni]] ([[User talk:Amire80|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:10, 6 January 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|We use the default messages now.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Disambigs in 'different from' == Infobox should ignore statements 'different from (P1889)' = '... (Q...)' if qualifier is set to 'criterion used (P1013)' = 'descriptive page and disambiguation page have to be in different items (Q24005632)'. Such statements in Wikidata Infobox are really useless and use too much space. ''[[User:Wostr|Wostr]]'' <small>([[User talk:Wostr|talk]])</small> 20:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC) :Agreed. With few exceptions (such as qualifying dates with "circa", or start & end dates of significant events), qualifiers should not be displayed. It's utterly trivial, unhelpful detritus that clutters what should be a succinct box with useful links and/or data. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC) ::As far as I understand, the question is not whether we want to display the qualifiers, but rather whether we want to display such statements at all. I agree we shouldn’t. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Only linked values are now shown for {{P|P1889}}.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Error displaying images with filenames beginning with an asterisk == If a filename begins with <big><tt>*</tt></big> (an asterisk), the template thinks it is wikitext for an unordered list. See [[:Category:April Greiman]] for example. <span style="background:#000;padding:1px 3px;border:2px solid #0ff; font: .8em Futura, Optima, serif; font-variant: small-caps;">[[:User talk:Senator2029|<span style="color:#0ff">Senator2029</span>]]</span> 23:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC) :MediaWiki’s too smart here: <syntaxhighlight lang="text">[[File:{{#invoke:WikidataIB|getValue|rank=best|P18|name=P18|qid=Q4782033|spf=|fwd={{#invoke:Wikidata Infobox|preloadWikidataProperties|Q4782033}}|osd=no|noicon=yes|maxvals=1}}|200px]]</syntaxhighlight> results in a code so broken that I couldn’t even insert it here. :( (But you can put it on any page and preview it to see the result.) If a template/module output starts with a code that has special meaning at the beginning of a line (e.g. asterisk), it automatically inserts a newline before it, and as far as I know, there’s no way to circumvent this—apart from not putting special codes at the very beginning of the output, for example by putting the <code><nowiki>[[File:</nowiki></code> in the Lua module as well (or by generating the whole infobox with Lua, see [[#Lua memory error]]). —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC) :* Perhaps make a module just for this expression? [[User:Ghouston|--ghouston]] ([[User talk:Ghouston|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Bad handling of only deprecated official website == I've found a bug where <code><nowiki>[ official website]</nowiki></code> appears in the output if the only value for {{P|P856}} is deprecated. An example can be currently seen on [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/sandbox]] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210326191608/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox/sandbox archive]), which I've linked to {{Q|4115189}} ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210326191549/https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4115189 archive]) for now. Perhaps this also affects other properties, but this one in particular generates odd wikitext. --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:17, 26 March 2021 (UTC) :Anything with an end date qualifier should probably not be displayed. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 08:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC) ::It looks like the current behavior ignores end date (if it's deprecated, the broken output occurs regardless of whether end date is present or not, and if it's at normal rank, it's displayed with correct formatting even if end date is present). --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC) ::In Wikidata, it's frequently an error if deprecation is used (instead of the addition of an end date). --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 11:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC) === Malformed official website link === [[:Category:Juweihui]] has a special error. its official website is fetched from {{Q|12808731}}. it's a deprecated value, and i think this causes the malformed link. (the Q12808731 value is wrong. i will remove it soon, but now i leave it there for you to see the error it causes.) [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == qualifier with datatype "wikibase-form" == [[User:Minerva97|Minerva97]] noticed that qualifiers with that datatype aren't supported. :e.g. [[:Category:Sérgio Sette Câmara]] showing "(unknown data type: wikibase-form)" :trying to display {{P|8017}} from [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18195633&oldid=1395979589#P1477 Q18195633#P1477]. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 09:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC) :* It's a lexeme, that's something new for a property value. [[User:Ghouston|--ghouston]] ([[User talk:Ghouston|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed in WikidataIB by ignoring values of datatype wikibase-form.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Zoom level, area == I think I read somewhere the zoom level used in the map was related to the area of the item (when this data has been included in the Wikidata item, of course). Nevertheless, the infobox does not behave differently whether units are <code>[[:Category:Km²|km²]]</code> (pretty good with these ones) or <code>[[:Category:Hectare|ha]]</code> (not that good, it would be nice zooming in these maps). I mean, I understand taking into account every area unit could be too complex, but would it be possible selecting different zoom level at least when units are "hectares"? (a pretty common unit). [[User:Strakhov|Strakhov]] ([[User talk:Strakhov|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC) :Actually I don’t think supporting any area unit would be too complex, as long as these units have {{P|P2370}} statements, the conversion to square kilometers can be deduced from it. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC) ::Yep, you are right. As long as these conversion factors (I didn't notice they existed) are included in Wikidata, I guess supporting every unit area should not be too complex. [[User:Strakhov|Strakhov]] ([[User talk:Strakhov|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:04, 23 October 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed by automatically adjusting map zoom level so that the geoshape (gray region) fits inside the map if the Wikidata item has {{P|402}}. Otherwise zoom level is calculated from area, respecting km², m², hectares, square miles, and acres.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == 'none' values in Wikidata break this template == Some properties in Wikidata cause this template to break if their value is set to 'none'. I've seen this happen with {{P|154}} and {{P|856}}, but it may also affect other properties. You can see the 'logo image' breaking at [[:Category:RIT News and Events]] (the text "<nowiki>[[File: | 110px]]</nowiki>" appears where the logo would normally be). I don't have an example link on hand for 'official website', but as I recall, the text "<nowiki>[ official website]</nowiki>" appears. –[[User:IagoQnsi|<span style="color:#a00;">Iago</span><span style="color:#f50;">Qnsi</span>]] ([[User talk:IagoQnsi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 20:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|IagoQnsi}} So don't use 'none' values, they don't make sense. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:32, 15 February 2022 (UTC) ::It makes sense to me that an entity might not have a logo or a website. Both of these properties have a constraint that requires that a single best value be set. If an entity had multiple logos/websites in the past but none of them are current, it's necessary to add a 'none' value with a preferred rank so that old values are not incorrectly displayed as a current/best value. ::I just checked: for {{P|154}}, there are 12 'none' values and 56 unknown values. For {{P|856}}, there are 340 'none' values and 140 unknown values. ::It seems to me that the template should hide the logo/website if they are set to none, rather than expecting that these properties will never be set to none. [[User:IagoQnsi|<span style="color:#a00;">Iago</span><span style="color:#f50;">Qnsi</span>]] ([[User talk:IagoQnsi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 23:40, 15 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed itself, see {{c|Kingdom of God}}.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Quickload option == Someone (perhaps {{ping|Jarekt}}?) suggested at today's Data Reuse Days presentation that we have a parameter that reduces what the infobox loads, so it can handle more tricky cases. I've implemented this as a "quickload=yes" parameter in the sandbox, which seems to work. For example, see [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia]], which finally works again. Please test - I'll deploy this in the next release if it works OK. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:31, 18 March 2022 (UTC) :Doesn't work for me. No links, no files were displayed - all links are red with text "Lua error: not enough memory" [[User:GeorgHH|GeorgHH]] • <small><u><tt>[[User_talk:GeorgHH|talk]]</tt></u></small>&nbsp;&nbsp; 21:55, 18 March 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks Mike. Yes it was my suggestion. Once it is stable we could add it to pages in [[:Category:Pages with script errors]] (I can do that). I will test it on some pages. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:54, 19 March 2022 (UTC) :::Itested it on a single page [[:Category:1871 in Austria-Hungary]] and it seems to work. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC) :Seems to work for English only (at least at [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia]]), after switching to another language lua errors are back.[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:56, 19 March 2022 (UTC) [[User:Mike Peel|Mike]], Let me know when Quickload option is live, as I would like to add it to categories in [[:Category:Pages with script errors]]. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The new infobox written in Lua doesn't have a {{para|quickload}} parameter as most pages take less than four seconds to load (see [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with bad performance]] for those that don't). Rewriting autocat in Lua might fix the memory issues but we have to see.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Might still be dependent on P373 == [[:Category:Pipa]] was recently moved to [[:Category:Pipa (frog)]], but wdib still pointed the genus to the old page, so i deleted the p373 values from {{Q|2351631}} and {{Q|8763208}}. now wdib shows no link for the genus. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC) :I suspect that might be a caching thing? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[:Category:Pipa (frog)]] looks fine to me, probably a caching thing|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Expression error == On all pages of celestial objects (stars, galaxies), such as [[c:Category:NGC 7061]] appears in the infobox a message 'Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character' when setting the language to one different from English (e.g. Dutch, French) which use decimal comma's instead of dots. Apparently this happens for the Right Ascension. [[User:Hobbema|Hobbema]] ([[User talk:Hobbema|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC) : The issue seems to be in <nowiki>{{#expr:{{#invoke:WikidataIB | getValue | rank=best | fetchwikidata=ALL | onlysourced=no | noicon=yes | P6257 | qid=Q1149326 | showunits=no}}/15}}</nowiki>: {{#expr:{{#invoke:WikidataIB | getValue | rank=best | fetchwikidata=ALL | onlysourced=no | noicon=yes | P6257 | qid=Q1149326 | showunits=no}}/15}} : In English it results in the value 21.457454446667, but in Dutch it results in 'Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character'. It could be releted ot the latest change in [[Module:WikidataIB]] [[User:HenkvD|HenkvD]] ([[User talk:HenkvD|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC) ::This can be fixed by adding {{para|lang|en}} to the WikidataIB invocation, see [[Special:Diff/647939238|this sandbox edit]]. Note that the numbers and units for the link title are still localized, only the numbers used to generate the URL need to be in English format. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC) :::Thanks. So I suppose one should make an edit request {{tl|edit request}} in order that someone is making this change? [[User:Hobbema|Hobbema]] ([[User talk:Hobbema|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:09, 12 April 2022 (UTC) :::: This looks good, I'll include it in the next release. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Update needed for showing currently valid P131 values == On [[:Category:Kapileswarapuram, Konaseema|Category:Kapileswarapuram,_Konaseema]], the Infobox is showing P131 values for districts which are outdated, as the administrative boundaries of districts were changed extensively for Andhra Pradesh in April 2022. Wikidata is updated for the affected entities, with end date qualifier for old P131 values and start date qualifier for new P131 values. (Example: wikidata:Q59939794). The template code needs to be changed to pick only the currently valid value, by checking for P131 entries without end date set. [[User:Arjunaraoc|Arjunaraoc]] ([[User talk:Arjunaraoc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Arjunaraoc}} You should do this on Wikidata by setting the latest value to 'preferred', e.g., [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q59939794&diff=1643770544&oldid=1637080707]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], Nice to connect with you again. Setting a value as preferred for hundreds of entities is not easy in Wikidata, as there is no tool. To my knowledge, only some bots set that flag. I learnt that using current flag with wikidata template on wikipedia can easily produce the currently valid value. (code:<nowiki>{{wikidata|properties|normal+|current|eid=Q59939794|P131}}</nowiki>) I did not find that feature on Commons template. It may be better to add such a feature for the template.</code> [[User:Arjunaraoc|Arjunaraoc]] ([[User talk:Arjunaraoc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:37, 22 May 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Arjunaraoc|Arjunaraoc]]: I am currently rewriting the infobox in Lua as part of Google Summer of Code. Excluding values based on the presence of the {{P|P582}} qualifier is trivial with Lua and other properties (such as {{P|P856}} or {{P|P154}}) could benefit from it as well. So expect this to be fixed by July&nbsp;3. Setting the latest values to 'preferred' is still a good idea but unfortunately [[d:Help:QuickStatements|QuickStatements]] does not support setting ranks. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == P1382 == Please consider to display {{P|P1382}} in the infobox. * {{P|P1382}} is an alternative to {{P|P460}} and {{P|P1889}}. * {{P|P1382}} is an alternative to {{P|P131}}, {{P|P3018}}, {{P|P361}}, {{P|P527}} etc. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Added.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == P834 == Hello. Can we make sure {{P|834}} is displayed? It would be super useful for categories such as [[:Category:Paris Métro Line 5]], that would now link to [[:Category:Bobigny metro and tramway workshop]]. [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Added.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Qualifier link broken == <s>Infobox of [[:Category:Shielhill Bridge]], under 'carries'. Corresponding item {{Q|Q113262146#P2505}} has a {{P|1365}} qualifier pointing to {{Q|Q17777613}} which maps to [[:c:Category:Sheilhill Old Bridge]]. But the infobox is redlinking to "Shielhill Bridge, Old Bridge". Thx, [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:11, 24 July 2022 (UTC)</s> :Seems to have sorted itself out. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:13, 24 July 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Jheald}} I think this was caching, after you [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q17777613&diff=1687275138&oldid=1687273634 moved the Commons category]. BTW, it's good to leave a category redirect in place so that anywhere that's linking to the category can still find it after the move. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:32, 25 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:32, 25 July 2022 (UTC)}} == misplaced captions == (workaround: make sure all images have captions in at least one language) === Wrong caption in Wikidata infobox === When there are more pictures of the same item in Wikidata, and not all of them have a media legend, the infobox sometimes chooses a different caption for a different image. The issue has recently been [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Technical&oldid=517208660#Wrong_caption_in_Wikidata_infobox discussed at the Village Pump], when the infobox displayed a picture of ''Melanogaster tuberiformis'' but accompanied it with a caption of ''Melanogaster variegatus''. That particular problem has been solved by [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3766082&type=revision&diff=1318643714&oldid=1311565362 adding the media legend] to the picture of ''M. tuberifosmis'' in Wikidata, but there can be many more problems like this in Commons. I think the infobox should be fixed so that it was not allowed to choose a caption that is not relevant to the chosen image. --[[User:Jan.Kamenicek|Jan Kameníček]] ([[User talk:Jan.Kamenicek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC) === Template pulling the wrong image description from Wikidata === In [[:Category:Schmallenberg]], the infobox shows [[:File:Schmallenberg from above.jpg]], which is the first image specified at {{Q|5628}}. But below it, it shows the caption ''Casa de la vila'' (town hall), which does not fit the image. Took me a while to figure out that the template is pulling the caption from the Catalan ''media legend'' field associated with the ''second'' image linked at wikidata ([[:File:Schmallenberg, stadhuis foto2 2010-08-12 11.51.JPG]], which indeeed shows the town hall). Providing a ''media legend'' for the aerial photograph would probably fix that, but I'm going to leave it alone for the moment do demonstrate the problem. [[User:El Grafo|El Grafo]] ([[User talk:El Grafo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC) : {{ping|El Grafo}} It's a known issue, there's no easy fix on the template side right now, the best thing is to add the media legend for the first photo - or better, only have one {{P|P18}} value and move the other one to {{P|P8592}}. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC) :: Yes, I was looking into cleaning that up, just didn't want to destroy the evidence. But if that's a known issue I guess I'll just go ahead. Anyway, thanks for having a look! -- [[User:El Grafo|El Grafo]] ([[User talk:El Grafo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC) :: Would it be possible to skip over any images that lack a caption in cases where there is at least one that has one? (ran into this with {{q|109649419}}) [[User:Arlo Barnes|Arlo James Barnes]] 20:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC) ::: This has been fixed. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC) == {{P|275}} == Hello, is it possible to add {{P|275}} to the infobox? Example of use in {{Q|21192014}} retrieved in [[:Category:Media from White and Reimer 2012 - 10.3897/zookeys.163.2003]]. Regards, [[User:Christian Ferrer|Christian Ferrer]] <sup>([[User talk:Christian Ferrer|talk]])</sup> 15:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC) :{{ping|Mike Peel}} {{P|275}} is ideal information in the template for [[w:Pixabay|Pixabay]] ({{tl|Pixabay}}), now with non-free license (see the Wikidata Infobox use in [[:Category:Pixabay]] without the license data).[[User:BoldLuis|BoldLuis]] ([[User talk:BoldLuis|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC) {{Section resolved|P275 has been added.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)}} == Identifiers for monuments in France == Hi, I have three requests (by decreasing order of importance) about identifiers for monuments in France: * would it be possible to add the [[d:P:P481]] identifier, it would be useful for instance on [[:Category:Retable du maître-autel de l'église Saint-Jacques-le-Majeur de Brousse-le-Château]] * would it be possible to add all the values for [[d:P:P481]] and [[d:P:P380]]? it's quite common for these properties to have several values (all equally right and useful, see [[:Category:Viaduc des Rochers Noirs]] for instance) * would it possible to have the icon [[File:Logo monument historique - rouge sans texte.svg|20px]] before these identifiers? Thanks in advance. Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|VIGNERON}} The first one is straightforward, it's in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} for testing. The second is more tricky, as the current {{tl|Wikidata ID}} code only supports one value per ID and it would need a complete rewrite to support multiple values. The third is also tricky, as the code fetches all information about the property from Wikidata, is there a property that could be added to the property pages to link to icons? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC) ::Thanks {{ping|Mike Peel}}, ::I've tested (in preview) the first, it works perfectly. ::For the second, that's a bummer. Would this rewrite be possible in a not-too-far future? (let's say less than a year, for WLM 2021?) ::I've been bold and tested to add [[d:P:P2910]] on [[d:P:P481]] and [[d:P:P380]] (it was already done on [[d:P:P496]] and [[d:P:P1793]]). I'll leave a message on the Project Chat to see if there is any objections or comments. ::Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC) :::{{ping|Mike Peel}} FYI, one week later, 2 people said my idea of adding icons was good (see [[d:Wikidata:Project_chat#Icons_for_properties]]). And for the first point, I did some more check, I've seen no problem; could this be applied to the real-not-sandbox template? Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC) ::::{{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} now supports icons as well as multiple values for an external identifier. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Taxa categories and "Search depicted" == Hi, there is a link "Search depicted" in the infobox. When you are in a taxon category and that you click on this link, then only are shown the pictures which show strictly the depicted items, e.g.: <br>[[:Category:Trochilidae]] → [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=haswbstatement%3AP180%3DQ43624&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&ns106=1 haswbstatement:P180=Q43624] <br>However a more accurate result woult comprises all the child taxa, e.g.: {{SPARQL|project=sdc|query=#shows files that depict Hummingbirds #defaultView:ImageGrid SELECT ?file ?image WITH { SELECT ?item WHERE { SERVICE <https://query.wikidata.org/sparql> { ?item wdt:P171/wdt:P171* wd:Q43624. } } } AS %get_items WHERE { INCLUDE %get_items ?file wdt:P180 ?item . ?file schema:contentUrl ?url . BIND(IRI(CONCAT("http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FilePath/", wikibase:decodeUri(SUBSTR(STR(?url),53)))) AS ?image) } }} <br>I think it is the likely the same thing for many other subjects than taxa, however the relationship parents/child taxa is always the same and known ({{P|171}}). Is there a chance that when we visit a taxon category we can have a link that lead such results? [[User:Christian Ferrer|Christian Ferrer]] <sup>([[User talk:Christian Ferrer|talk]])</sup> 12:44, 9 January 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Has been added|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Template translation == Hi, {{ping|Père Igor}} is asking (on Wikidata) where to translate the "show all" option of this template (underneath the images). {{ping|Mike Peel}} could you help? Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|VIGNERON}} I'm not sure it's possible. It's currently hard-coded in English in [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Infobox.js]]... Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC) ::Then probably it should be. Since the infobox already has non-Wikidata-based localization at [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/i18n]], it’s just the matter of adding a new localization string and passing it somehow to the gadget (e.g. using a hidden <code>&lt;div&gt;</code> or a <code>data-*</code> attribute). —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Tacsipacsi}} I'd be happy to see it internationalised, I just can't figure out the "passing it somehow to the gadget" bit! Happy to help implement this if you can figure it out, though. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|It now displays as "{{int:Pagetriage-filter-all}}" in your language.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Czech RÚIAN and ÚSOP identifiers == Hi. Could be added [[:d:Q12049125|RÚIAN]] identifiers for Czech administrative, territorial, statistical and cadastral division? * {{P|4533}} * {{P|3419}} * {{P|7526}} * {{P|2788}} * {{P|7577}} * {{P|7606}} * {{P|7635}} * {{P|7636}} * {{P|7579}} * {{P|7752}} * {{P|7673}} * {{P|7674}} * {{P|7736}} * {{P|7735}} [[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:38, 14 July 2022 (UTC) And identifiers of Czech protected trees and areas from the Central Register of Nature Protection: * {{P|P3296}} * {{P|P677}} --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Have all been added.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Category links == <span class="template-ping">@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: </span> it appears after your latest update that it is now incorrectly transcluding categories. <nowiki></nowiki> now adds [[:Category:Letters of marque]] to [[:Category:Pirates]]. You can see [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates?title=Special%3AExpandTemplates&wpContextTitle=&wpInput=%7B%7B%23invoke%3AWikidata+Infobox%7Cmain%7CQ10729326%7D%7D%0D%0A&wpRemoveComments=1 here] how this was explicitly meant as an exclusion but due to a missing <code>:</code> character, it is transcluded. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Magog the Ogre|contribs]]) 16:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Magog the Ogre}} I've moved this here to keep discussions in one place, hope that's OK. I think this is an easy thing for {{ping|LennardHofmann}} to fix. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:05, 23 July 2022 (UTC) ::This is related to the discussion [[#Bug? Why is {{Label|P1889|link=-}} (P1889) no longer displayed?]] above and fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:41, 24 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Migrate more of the wikitext of this template to lua? == This template is quite slow and is taking 90% of parse time of any category in commons (and taking north of five seconds). The biggest reason is that it's using parser functions and mediawiki's templating which was the whole reason lua was introduced to handle. See [[:File:Linux.conf.au_2014_-_Scribunto_presentation.webm]] [[User:Ladsgroup|Amir]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Ladsgroup}} Amir! See [[#Lua rewrite]]! ;-) Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC) ::Awesome [[User:Ladsgroup|Amir]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Removal of birth and death categories == Hello everyone, is it desired to remove birth and death year categories when the connected Wikidata item contains the related date? If so i would prepare a bot for cleanup. --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:38, 13 April 2019 (UTC) :Moin Moin [[User:Aschroet|Arnd]], sounds great, could the bot run for given name and surname too? And what I see too, was, that a lot wrote "Infobox Wikidata"/"Wikidata infobox"/"wikidata infobox" and not "Wikidata Infobox". Could we fix that with the run too? Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:07, 13 April 2019 (UTC) : Sounds good to me. Crazy1880, Pi bot should now regularly change uses of the redirects to {{tl|Wikidata Infobox}} - I wrote code for that but it wasn't regularly running until the configuration change I just made. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:13, 13 April 2019 (UTC) :Actually, I would prefer this NOT happen. If the infobox is ever removed in the future, the categories are lost. And Wikidata gets vandalized more than one might think. I think Some redundancy in categories is ok. Honestly, this infobox is really starting to become a bit of a annoyance, like its handlers want it to become an omnipresent entity controlling ''everything'' from on high in the gilded realm of Wikidata, to hell what peasant humans might think. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:40, 13 April 2019 (UTC) :: Presumably if the infobox is systematically removed in the future, the auto-included categories would be substituted, so I don't think the category information would be lost. If redundancy should be kept (and I'm not convinced it's actually useful), then I think it's better on Wikipedias (where the info can be referenced) then in Commons categories. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC) ::::Moin [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], thanks for Pi bot run. Could you fix "Infobox Wikidata" > "Wikidata Infobox" too? The rest from the run looks good. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:27, 13 April 2019 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} It's running through {{tl|Wdbox}}, {{tl|Wikidata infobox}}, {{tl|Infobox Wikidata}}, {{tl|Infobox wikidata}}, {{tl|WI}}, {{tl|Wdbox}}. There were more cases than I was expecting, so it may take a while. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:34, 13 April 2019 (UTC) :Moin Moin [[User:Aschroet|Arnd]], There were no further objections now. How far are you? --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:58, 28 April 2019 (UTC) ::i waited for other objections before starting to work on a script. I'll start with it now. --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:02, 28 April 2019 (UTC) ::[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] and others, i just started a test-run. Feel free to take a look ([[Special:Contributions/ArndBot]]). And, if something goes wrong please stop the bot and inform me. Thanks, --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC) :::Moin Moin [[User:Aschroet|Arnd]], I noticed something else. There are still categories (People by name, Men by name, Women by name) which could also be removed. Also this information comes meanwhile from the properties from Wikidata. What do you mean? Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:02, 1 May 2019 (UTC) ::::[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]], doesn't it depend from the naming of the category or something else or can they generally be removed? --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:19, 1 May 2019 (UTC) ::::Seems that category must have the name "given name" + "surname" or at least contain both, right? --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:18, 2 May 2019 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|Aschroet}} It would be good to remove those at the same time. Check for {{P|P31}}={{Q|Q5}} for [[:Category:People by name]], {{P|P21}}={{Q|Q6581097}} for [[:Category:Men by name]] and {{P|P21}}={{Q|Q6581072}} for [[:Category:Women by name]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC) [[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]], am i right that [[:Category:Deceased people by name]] can be removed when there is a date of death? --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC) :Moin Moin [[User:Aschroet|Arnd]], yes, thats correct. PS.: Special Thanks for your doing, its great. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) [[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]], can i generally ignore the sortkey of the birth/death year category as for example in [[:Category:Alex Cousseau]] which has <nowiki>[[Category:1974 births|Cousseau, Alex]]</nowiki>. --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:14, 19 May 2019 (UTC) : {{ping|Aschroet}} Check to make sure {{P|P735}} and {{P|P734}} are set - in this case they aren't, so it's probably best not to remove it, or to move the sort key to a defaultsort tag before removing the year category. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:47, 20 May 2019 (UTC) :: [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], in what way the Infobox adds the sortkey? ''surname, given name''? So i would only remove in this case. --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:13, 20 May 2019 (UTC) :: I think the DEFAULTSORT itself can also be removed with there is a ''surname, given name'' as key. --[[User:Aschroet|Arnd]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:36, 27 May 2019 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Aschroet}} I think you're right, just make sure that both surname and given name are set. That is the order they are added. Note that there are discrepancies that need to be investigated in [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with defaultsort suppressed]] (set by defaultsort=no), it's probably best to avoid those for now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 27 May 2019 (UTC) :::In case the sur- or given name(s) containing Umlauts or similar like é, ò please keep (or set) the ''|defaultsort=no'' in the wikidata box and add (if possible) a DEFAULTSORT without those Umlauts. Thx --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 15:08, 27 May 2019 (UTC) ::::Moin Moin [[User:JuTa|JuTa]], ich glaube das ist der falsche Weg, die Infobox sollte das regeln und zwar korrekt. @[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] and @[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], is it fixable, thats the DEFAULTSORT sets the right words, or is that so wanted? Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|JuTa}} That's an interesting request, can I ask why? I'd have thought we'd want to include accents etc. in the sortkey? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 27 May 2019 (UTC) ::::::They don’t work—that is, they are sorted after non-accented letters: e.g. Ádám is after Zoltán in Commons. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:25, 27 May 2019 (UTC) : Belated re: I'm wondering if this could be resolved by passing the sort key through [[:en:Template:Remove_accents]]. {{ping|RexxS}} Any thoughts on a better way to remove accents from a string? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC) :: No, {{u|Mike Peel|Mike}}. The code used in [[:en:Module:Latin]] and thence in [[:en:Template:Remove accents]] is fine. As there are probably other use cases for that functionality, I'd recommend importing both of them into Commons (you may need to set some level of protection for obvious reasons). Having the module here would also allow other Lua modules to call and use its functionality directly. That seems the best way to me. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:58, 21 June 2019 (UTC) :: Postscript: {{u|Mike Peel|Mike}}, I've remembered that I'd written a module to do similar things at [[:en:Module:Diacritics]]. On enwiki, we can use: ::* <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:Diacritics |stripDiacrits | Núñez Cabeza de Vaca, Álvar }}</nowiki></code> → Nunez Cabeza de Vaca, Alvar :: So you could import that instead if you wanted. Naturally, you can create a wrapper template for the call if you prefer. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:17, 22 June 2019 (UTC) :::Hi, any news according this case? Would be rather helpfull by categorizing people. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 21:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC) :::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: Any updates, any plans? --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 06:14, 15 August 2019 (UTC) :::: {{Ping|JuTa|Tacsipacsi}} Can you give {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} a spin please? It should now remove accents from the DEFAULTSORT. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:53, 15 August 2019 (UTC) :::::Hi [[User:Mike Peel|Mike]], I tried the sandbox in [[:Category:Ferenc Ács]] and [[:Category:İnci Özdil]]. The first looks fine, but for the second: She is still sorted with Accent within [[:Category:Özdil (surname)]]. Perhaps you didn't used "remove accent" trick for the sorting in Surname-cats (according the given name). Cheers --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 14:42, 15 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::Ping [[User:Mike Peel|Mike]]... --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 16:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::: {{ping|JuTa}} OK, I've tweaked it some more, try again now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::::Hi [[User:Mike Peel|Mike]]. Now it looks good in [[:Category:Özdil (surname)]]. Can you make it productive? Thx. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 16:26, 21 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::::: I have a bunch of changes I want to release at once, but they need a bit more testing first. I should be able to make it live by the weekend. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:29, 21 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::Thx [[User:Mike Peel|Mike]], I just made another test with [[:Category:Əvəz Mahmud Lələdağ]] (a double given name). It looks like the sorting in [[:Category:Lələdağ (surname)]] is still incorrect, should be under A or perhaps E but not under Ə. Cheers. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 16:40, 21 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::: {{ping|JuTa}} That's because Ə isn't included at the moment - what should it be replaced with, and does it have a lower case version? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:48, 21 August 2019 (UTC) :::::::::::: As far as I know it should be replaced by A and the lower case is '''ə'''. I tried now [[:Category:Čolak-Anta Simeonović]] and it looks fine in [[:Category:Simeonović (surname)]]. Cheers. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 16:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::::: {{ping|JuTa}} OK, try again now. These are the characters that are now being replaced before setting the sort key: ÁÀÂÄǍĂĀÃÅĄƏĆĊĈČÇĎĐḌÐÉÈĖÊËĚĔĒẼĘẸĠĜĞĢĤĦḤİÍÌÎÏǏĬĪĨĮỊĴĶĹĿĽĻŁḶḸṂŃŇÑŅṆŊÓÒÔÖǑŎŌÕǪỌŐØŔŘŖṚṜŚŜŠŞȘṢŤŢȚṬÚÙÛÜǓŬŪŨŮŲỤŰǗǛǙǕŴÝŶŸỸȲŹŻŽ<br />áàâäǎăāãåąəćċĉčçďđḍðéèėêëěĕēẽęẹġĝğģĥħḥıíìîïǐĭīĩįịĵķĺŀľļłḷḹṃńňñņṇŋóòôöǒŏōõǫọőøŕřŗṛṝśŝšşșṣťţțṭúùûüǔŭūũůųụűǘǜǚǖŵýŷÿỹȳźżž. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC) :::::::::::::: Looks fine, thx. In case more characters would be required, I'll give you a ping. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 21:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC) @[[User:Mike Peel|Mike]], next weekend coming soon. Any plans? --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 10:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC) : {{ping|JuTa}} OK, the new version is now live, and I've disabled the bot code that resolves defaultsort conflicts. Let's see how this goes over the next few days (and please keep an eye on [[:Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts]] in particular!) Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:11, 30 August 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks a lot. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 18:18, 30 August 2019 (UTC) According to i.e. [[:Category:Mạc Thái Tông]] the character '''ạ''' seems not to be sorted correctly. @[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: Can you have a look please. --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 00:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The [[User:ArndBot|ArndBot]] has removed the redundant categories, and diacritics are stripped from DEFAULTSORT.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Recursion == {{ping|Verdy p}} Re [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikidata_Infobox&curid=65686355&diff=414244589&oldid=414039942] - can you point to some examples of the problem please, and I'll investigate it? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC) : Look at the categories by years or by country. The recursion breaks, and then generates many false categorisatrions in '''all''' the 14 types on categories for dominical type of years (common/leap years starting on Monday/Tuesday..) or multiple categories for multiple incorrect countries (e.g. all the ~50 countries in Europe simultaneously). : When this change was applied, many categories exploded, overpopulated with thousands of incorrect subcategories listed. And these subcategories contain dozens of bold-red messages saying that the maximum script execution time was overflowed. The infoboxes also included these messages, and various kinds of error messages, and many incorrect wikidata selected. [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:46, 23 April 2020 (UTC) : See for example those incorrect categoies now added in [[:Category:Leap years starting on Sunday]] (they were still not updated with the propagation of my revert): this should have contained only simple numeric years. Look at any one of them, you'll see these bold-red messages; now force an update now with my revert, they are now correctly displayed (without the broken recursion, and without the false categorisations, and this category disappears instantly from the 14 categories for years by dominical letters and from many other unrelated categories where it was added (but still their listed members are also incorrect as they were added also by other categories using the broken recursion. : Recursion is not checked at all for the supposed containment and can sometimes enter in infinite loops (this may be caused by some subtle bug in wikidata where there's a confusion between classes and instances or "part of". The recursion is not limited in terms of parents (some categorisation have very high depths, and not necessarily finite with some loops).* : So I think it's simply impossible to perform such recursion safely. There are too many bugs in Wikidata modelisation to fix before such thing is attempted, and fixing the Wikidata data will take years or will never terminate (there are lot of complex cases and ambiguities not resolved). So keep the data lookup simple, looking into basic properties of a single object and not generalizing that to any property value that points to other objects to recurse. The complex cases are those topics related to geography (there are lot of exceptions everywhere in the world, various exceptions being limited by contraint qualifiers, like for historic places, or because of conflicting political claims, or uncertainty of some properies with only a ''likely range'' of property values, but your new automated recursion ignores these constraints completely or is extremely unlikely to unterpret them correctly like what humans do). [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC) :: {{ping|Verdy p}} Thanks, I think it's mostly due to the time-outs (they then mean that the checks whether to add the later categories aren't run right, so they're always included in them). I think it's because of the heavy-weight country items more than anything else. I'll have a think and see if there's a straightforward way of avoiding those (either a blacklist of QIDs or a check of P31 of the sub-items perhaps). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:05, 23 April 2020 (UTC) : If you think that some infoboxes should list other properties collected from other items, this should be done in Wikidata by adding some of these properties, but Wikidata maintainers won't appreciate such massive denormalisation of the data model they attempt to build and cleanup '''progressively''', item by item, model by model (which in lot of cases is still not complete and cleaned up, as it requires lot of searches and lot of validations and patience (look at the many contraints reports that list tons of problems to solve). A passive unbounded recursion in the infobox simply cannot work at all with how Waikidata is structured, and managed (with various incomplete changes in the model that your recursion is unable to track). : Recursion should then be strictly limited in scope, and never by using "blacklists" (which will ignore lot of complex cases), but only "whitelists" and a maximum depth (your first try should have not attempted to perform more than one level of recursion on these "whitelisted" properties). [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC) : Note: there is more important things to do in infoboxes, notably when you format the list of qualifier added between parentheses after a property value: we would like to be able to kwow not just the value of the qualifier, but also its type, for example to distinguish the starting date from the ending date when they are both listed, and distinguish them also from a quantity; using a basic comma-delimeted list of qualifier values, possibly with their own link, does not help a lot interpreting the displayed result. : So instead of adding such recursion in infobox, consider investing time in the data modelisation in Wikidata (and you'll see that this can never stop: it's very hard (or most probably impossible) to correctly modelize all the human knowledge in a way that is fully and recursively automatable with correct inferences. In all cases in Wikidata the scope of recursions by transitive properties has to be limited in depth. Even only the mathematical concepts have their own ambiguities (so infinite inference on transitive properties is simply wrong after very few steps, where there may be some approximations that cumulate rapidly: the transitive properties are only correct with a margin of error/approximation for example 99% of cases, then on the second step this becomes <98% right, then <95% right, then <85% right, then only correct in one case on two, then they are just completely random guesses). :: ''See notably the [[w:en:Gödel's incompleteness theorems|Theorems of Gödel]] on incompleteness: there cannot exist any model of inference which is "complete" without introducing self-contradictions; this is a wellknown paradox, proving that infinite transitive inference is wrong; any correct inference cannot be complete, and so transitive inference MUST be finitely bounded, otherwise it will unavoidly returns ALL possible assertions for all aspects of the universe, all wrong assertions and all true assertions. And wikidata does not just attempt to model a purely binary logic, it also models a largely fuzzy logic for human/social/philosophical concepts where assertions are only true within a limited margin of certainty, which is almost never 100% but depends on lot of unspecified/unknown factors and conditions. These factors/conditions/constraints are also impossible to express "completely" with a non-contradicting set of axiomatic rules, also as a consequence because of Gödel's theorems. Uncertaintity really exists everywhere, and it is impossible to avoid (so the pure binary logic is fundamentally flawed, it is proven that there exists "undecidable" assertions, I'm not saying "unprovable" which is a different problem, and attempting to decide a certain true or false value for these undecidable assertions by adding an axiom to the system will instantly introduce self-contradictions; this also has consequences on "computability", notably here with this unbounded recursion of infoboxes).'' : And adding more time allowed for scripts will not solve this problem. The time limitation is needed and largely sufficient, if you don't recurse without any bound on depths and scope. [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC) : Also if you make any whitelisted recursion (on a strictly limited depth and scope), the added info should only add info into the infobox, and exclude '''all''' kind of autocategorization of the page containing the infobox (this creates overcategorization in all cases into the correct parent category and all the incorrect grandparent categories that you've recursed). [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC) :: {{ping|Verdy p}} That's a lot of text. All I'm trying to do here is to follow {{P|P971}} to display extra information about the topic, in a similar way to how the infobox follows {{P|P301}} for single-topic items. It seems to fail for country items as they are simply too big to handle, I'll try to figure out a way to avoid them. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC) ::: {{ping|Verdy p}}} I think [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Wikidata_Infobox&diff=414624097&oldid=414039132 this edit] should have fixed the problem, please let me know if it didn't. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC) :: It seems to work. However the presentation of the multiple agregated infoboxes into a single one is confusive; there's no clear separation between the related topic that you add to the same infobox, so all info seems to be mixed together to the same parent topic. At least there should be a stroke separating them, or separate boxes, one below each other... :: I see in fact little or no benefit to add all these extra info on the same page, when the related topics listed in the parent have a link pointing to a page (with the same info but in its own infobox). This looks like unnecessary duplication and just makes the pages even more confusive and unnecessarily polluted. :: You've noted that this made the search of these info really slow and now many more category pages have to be recomputed and cached, causing lot of unnecessary work on the server, or most of the related info added will be out of sync, most of the time: the info can be fixed in wikidata and refreshed in its associated page on Commons, but not at all in all the many member pages where they were collected (and it's simply undoable to force the refresh all children pages citing the parent topic as a related topic, each time one info is changed in the related topic in Wikidata: keeping only one link from the parent topic to the related topic avoids all that work (with still the hige risk of seeing many of these pages broken again and not fixed for long if ever this was caused by a single incorrect data in the related topic, that was propagated into tons of subtopics associated with other subtopics.) :: What you made created a huge combinatorial problem: all Commons pages using such combo-infoboxes will not longer be up to date and will be inconsistantly updated for long (and the number of combinations between topics is really huge in Commons). Keep things simple: just keep the links to related topics, don't even try to detail the info they contain when you can simply visit pages for these topics directly, via a single click on their link, and with low efforts and little and no maintenance for pages in the server to refresh them to have consistant results ! :: '''Such combo-infobox is a confusive tool made only for lazy people''' that don't want to point and click a link and ''may'' want all the details at once on the same page (and frequently there's lot of redundancy between the infos of the related topics and the infos of the subtopic in which you've placed the combo). And when it's not redundant, it may now display contradicting statements, that won't be easy to fix (fixing it in the related topics in Wikidata will not propagate to the subtopic pages where the combo is placed and still displays the old info; so this will confuse a lot of editors that will wonder how and where to fix the incorrect or contradicting info, while a single link to a related parent topic gives an immediate location where the infos can be fixed). Note as well that now we have several "pen" isons to fix the data, these pens are not evident to discriminate or locate (when there were conventiently only one at the bottom right corner of the infobox, easy to locate visually). :: ''Conclusions:'' ::* 1. Such "combo infoboxes" do not add any value, they are only confusive for many readers, create many maintenance problems for contributors, and cause severe performance impact on the server: rendered pages with these combo will now no longer be in sync with the actual source data from which they were generated, they will alway be late now (for very long time, it's impossible to propagate every change in data for one topic to all the subtopics in which they were associated; imagine the number of combinations with just the number of countries and the number of years, then add the country divisions, populated places; then associate more than 3 topics such as types of objects in a given country and a given date; and each data change requires now refreshing hundreds of pages; make only two changes in Wikidata items, and almost all pages in Wikidata will have to be regenerated due to combinatorial effect of each "crossed" topics). And with 3 associated topics, now we've got 4 infoboxes combined, that's a lot of pollution with info that was already seen when visiting one of pages for the related topics and that will be repeated again and again in all the associated pages (but inconsistantly due to the refreshing problem which is simply impossible to perform at once, or that would force the server to disqualify completely its page caches, forcing each visit to perform a now very slow refresh before the users sees anything in the page)... ::* 2. It's highly preferable to invest time to fix how property qualifiers are displayed: only the qualifier value, nothing allwing to discriminate the type of qualifiers (e.g. when there are start/end qualifiers with dates, quantity qualifiers: the value alone for the listed qualifiers after the property value does not helps to say if this is a start date or an end date, a geographic location or a political/administrative location (these qualifier values alone have lot of homonymic uses, especially those that look like numbers, dates, place names, people names) as the type (role) of the qualifier is invisible. When there are multiple qualifiers, their presentation in a list is also in arbitrary order. :: ''Suggestion'': '''if the related topics have a suitable link that is visitable''' (note that these links are already generated in the property values for "related topics"), assume this link will go to a page already having the necessary infobox for these details, '''then don't add this extra infobox into the combo !''' That's simple, efficient, fast. It will also respect the users that can click instantly this link to get the details ''only on demand'' (if they need it)! (This suggestion also handles the case where you just had to exclude adding infoboxes for countries into the combo, because coutries also have lot of details and they all have a visitable link which is already generated in the list of "related topics" citing these countries). ::: ''What you did is the equivalent of repeating into all articles citing an item the definition of every occurence of that item that has a link to its definition page. We don't do that, we just use a link and centralize the details elsewhere (we even avoid repeating the link at each occurence of the cited item). Otherwise this pollutes the text of the article, this distracts the visitors and this makes the article unreadable and dificult to summarize at a whole (the only useful info to add is the only info strictly necessary to disambiguate instantly the linked items, but never all its details) and makes the navigation into the content almsot impossible to perform consistantly without being lost in all the added details.'' :: The situation for the {{P|P971}} property (which associates two or more topics in a Commons subcategory and for which you created this "combo" feature for infoboxes) is radically different from the situation for the {{P|P301}} property (where only 1 topic is listed): importing the parent infobox to display it may be useful in that later case; but we normally avoid repeating this info as properties of the subtopic itself (such info is generally already removed from properties of subtopic items in wikidata as they are unnecessary, denormalized duplicates and also cause maintenance problems when the info is better suited for the parent topic defining it once for all subtopics, i.e. once for a class instead of every instance, or once for a parent item for all its parts, because all these instances or parts inherit from this identical property from the parent item). And because of that, the infobox for the subtopic having a {{P|P301}} property will generally contain no details about the single related item cited... except that it can also be visitable by a link, and there's also no need to import the infobox when users can just follow the link and in my opinion the same rationale should be used: don't import that in a combo also for {{P|P301}}, even if it cites a single item, when this item is linked and visitable on demand! :: All your efforts to create these combo infoboxes are needless :: And if you're still not convinced, try using the external tools that do that in Wikidata, notably [https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/ Reasonator]: look at all the dummy info that it can collect at bottom of its reports for "related topic", including related medias showing other locations, or samples of other completely unrelated items that are just weakly linked as another example of a property for a parent generic topic but no relations at all with the currently visited subtopic of that parent. :: And even if you choose to import only a "significant part" of the info for the parent topic, you will unavoidly create an arbitrary ''bias'' (for not presenting the parent topic completely and making arbitrary choices on parts to show and parts to hide, possibly creating a situation of ''edit wars'' to select what is important to show for some users and not others). As we want to avoid bias, we necessarily have to presetn lot of info for the parent topic, and thus all this should not be added again into subtopics that just need to give a link to their parent/related topic(s). :: [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The performance problems of subinfoboxes have been solved with the Lua rewrite.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Width of the infobox == I've just noticed that {{ping|Verdy p}} changed [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWikidata_Infobox%2Fstyles.css&type=revision&diff=428511017&oldid=412919065 the infobox style] yesterday to make the infobox wider (250px rather than 210px) and to remove "table-layout: fixed;". Has this caused any problems? I was trying to keep the width of the infobox as narrow as possible, but if this new width is OK then I'll make the images and map a bit larger in the next version. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|Mike Peel}} Yes it caused problems: the fixed layout notably is wrong: it cannot be infered correctly from the first row (which is taking 100% of the width: it is frequently an image spanning the two columns; so the fixed table layout is then 50%/50% independantly of everything that is below), so all the headings below take 50% of the total width, leaving a very narrow column for the values (and with 210px, values could be only 105px wide: too many linewraps or truncated values, or sometimes even a larger infobox). : And 210px is too narrow for German. In wikimedia, floatting images are 250px wide, we can use that default so they line-up correctly with infoboxes. : 250px does not cause problems given it is the default for floatting images, and they align perfectly vertically. Given that "fixed" layout does not work and has bad effects, it's best to remove it, and allow columns to be flexible: in many cases the heading columns will be adaptative: not be 50% but lower, giving ampler space for the valuesin the second columns. : This is also needed for other languages than German, like Thai (that don't use any space between words, and have weak unexplicit linewraps opportunities in most browsers, as they depend on complex dictionnary lookups); this is not a problem for Chinese or Japanese where linewraps are allowed everywhere between each sinogram; in Korean, there are whitespace separations between words written in Hangul syllables and they use standard Latin punctuation. Basically this is needed for languages that use word-agglutination (German, Finnish) when Wikidata frequently does not include any soft-hyphen in the labels to allow break opportunities. And in a 105px column, this does not fit so well. Now it can be 125px or a bit larger, taking some space from the underused heading columns which is now flexible). The result is much more readable, and we no longer have very tall columns of values after each heading, and a very tall infobox: we need less linewraps to correctly render the values, adn the infobox still remains constrained in the 250px flexible width (most of the time): this was almost never the case with 210px only and with fixed layout. :: You should know that the "fixed" table lyout '''requires''' that the table has ALL its columns sized in its 1st row (this is never the case for infoboxes, as the 1st row contains the object's label/description spanning all columns. :: ''And on Mediawiki we still cannot use the standard "column" HTML element to size them with styles; as well there's still no support for standard columns-groups with "colgroup" or row groups with "thead", "tbody" and "tfoot"... I think this is a stupid limitation of Mediawiki which consider them as "unsafe" HTML elements, which is obviously wrong; May be we'll have in some future addition HTML elements from HTML5; but the HTML4-inherited "column", "colgroup", "thead", "tbody" and "tfoot" elements, preserved in HTML5 and still recommended, they should have been supported since very long, not causing any security problem if they were treated like "div" or "li" block elements for row groups, or like "span" for "column" and column groups).'' : Note that I have NOT changed the image sizes in the infobox, but thery are properly centered, and increasing their size could make the infoboxes unnecessarily taller. [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC) ::It looks very awkward with image and map size not matching infobox size. I don't particularly care ''what'' size, but it should match. [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC) :::I agree. It doesn't look nice now. [[User:Strakhov|Strakhov]] ([[User talk:Strakhov|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:20, 25 June 2020 (UTC) :I'm glad to see the width has been increased. It would be good to increase the image width, and cap the heights. Perhaps 250x300, or even 250x250? <span style="white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:gray 5px 3px 1px;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 23:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC) :: {{ping|Verdy p|Pi.1415926535|Strakhov|Huntster}} Can you try {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} please? This incorporates the CSS changes and also widens the image and map widths. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:32, 1 July 2020 (UTC) : We can enlarge maps, but I don't think we need to enlarge images at top, which are properly centered and displayed in an area which has enough margins. Extending the image width at top could make the infobox taller... For OSM maps, there's no problem: we can set it a bit larger without increasing their height. : The sandbox version however still does not change these image/map widths. Let's first start with the map... [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC) : {{u|Mike Peel}}, at first glance and checking miscellaneous location categories, I see nothing abnormal for the two properties in question. What did you specify for maximum height? However, property P2716 (collage image) should probably be added to the list of new sizes, since a lot of cities use that field rather than "image", and I can imagine a limited number of other such properties at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Q26940804 might also qualify for treatment. <span style="white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:gray 5px 3px 1px;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 05:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == P373 == Was the use of P373 deprecated for this template? Apparently it no longer fetches the Commons category from this property, only from site link. I don't understand why we have to add a category to both P373 and site link, it seems redundant. —[[User:Capmo|''capmo'']] ''([[User talk:Capmo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]])'' 15:00, 25 December 2020 (UTC) : One reason is that the multiple wikidata items may point to same commonscat category using P373. (ie. technically sitelinks are [[:w:One-to-one (data model)|One-to-one]] relations and P373 values are [[:w:Many-to-many_(data_model)|Many-to-many]]) --[[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC) : Also commons sitelink may also not point to category but to gallery page in example. --[[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC) :: This needs a change in WikidataIB, {{ping|RexxS}} could you look into it please? I think it just needs line 660 of [[Module:WikidataIB]] ("mw.wikibase.getBestStatements(id, "P373")[1]") changing to use getCommonsLink, and ideally any mention of P373 should just be removed now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::: ::: Why it needs to change? I think that based on usecases the wikidata<->commonscat will be always 1:M relations and it will be impossible to normalize them to 1:1 ones without problems. --[[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Zache}} I've been working on synchronizing Commons and Wikidata for several years now, and cases where there aren't 1:1 links are really rare (many of the 1:many links aren't useful, or can be solved by improving Commons categorisation and/or the Wikidata items). I'm hoping that P373 will be deprecated soon, and deleted sometime in 2021, see [[:d:Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#Property:P373]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:46, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::: ::: I've changed the line in [[Module:WikidataIB/sandbox]] to use _getCommonsLink, but I don't think that will give the results you want, because it will always create a category now. I honestly don't know what algorithm you want to use for the link, so I can't be certain what to implement. WADR, I usually find it better for someone to tell me the results they want and let me sort out what is the best way to implement it. Merry Xmas --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::::{{ping|RexxS}} Thanks! I'll set up the infobox sandbox to check things. Ideally everything at e.g., [[:Category:South Pole Telescope]] would work the same, but without using P373. It shouldn't add categories, it should just link to them, but using the sitelinks (following {{P|P301}} etc.) rather than P373. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:46, 25 December 2020 (UTC) :::: {{ping|RexxS}} "Lua error in Module:WikidataIB/sandbox at line 669: attempt to call global '_getCommonsLink' (a nil value).". Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:53, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::::: {{re|Mike Peel}} it seems I called the function _getCommonslink, so that's fixed now. I still don't see how it's ever going to return a gallery. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:58, 25 December 2020 (UTC) :::::: {{ping|RexxS}} I tried to prefix the links with ":", but it doesn't look like it worked, as it now returns 'Category:Category:Blah'. {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} now uses [[Module:WikidataIB/sandbox]], see examples at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core/sandbox]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::::::: {{re|Mike Peel}} That's more or less what I expected. How about you tell me what output you want from the different cases and I'll try to sort out the logic? --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:09, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::::::: I've made a guess at what you want and made some amendments. Does that fit the bill? --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:14, 25 December 2020 (UTC) :::::::: {{ping|RexxS}} That's a step forward. In these cases, the link should never add the category to a parent category, it should just display the link. E.g., at [[:Category:Anubis]], the new version tries to add it to categories, while the main version just shows the links. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::::::::: Sorry, {{u|Mike Peel|Mike}}. That's just too opaque for me. I think we need a bunch of test cases like we did for CiteQ, so that I can try to make sense of what is required. I suggest that we pause changing the code until I can get a better idea of the algorithm needed. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC) :::::::::: {{ping|RexxS}} OK, lets come back to this another day. I thought it was a straight swap, we just stop using P373 to provide inline links to other categories, and use the sitelinks insead. But clearly we're not connecting somewhere here. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC) ::Thanks for the explanations, [[User:Zache|Zache]]. That's fair enough. —[[User:Capmo|''capmo'']] ''([[User talk:Capmo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]])'' 17:20, 26 December 2020 (UTC) {{ping|RexxS}} following up on this with some test cases. {{#invoke:WikidataIB | getValue | rank=best | P137 | linkprefix=":" | qlinkprefix=":" | qid=Q1161670 | fwd=ALL | osd=no | noicon=yes | qual=ALL}} - this works OK, but if you try the sandbox then it includes the page in the category rather than displaying the link. Same for {{#invoke:WikidataIB | getValue | rank=best | P31 | linkprefix=":" | qlinkprefix=":" | qid=Q1161670 | fwd=ALL | osd=no | noicon=yes | qual=ALL}} . However, {{#invoke:WikidataIB | getValue | rank=best | P17 | linkprefix=":" | qlinkprefix=":" | qid=Q1161670 | fwd=ALL | osd=no | noicon=yes | qual=ALL}} seems to work OK in both cases, which is good. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed with [[Special:Diff/682198150]] after the problem was rediscovered in [[#Decoding Q-values]].|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Lua memory error == in the Infobox with [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Austria]]. And (as a consequence?) a lot of unplausible categories. {{Ping|Mike Peel}} best --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC) :{{Ping|Mike Peel}} any idea? --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC) :: {{ping|Herzi Pinki}} The problem is that {{Q|Q86847911}} is 3,771,486 bytes, and the infobox can't handle an item that is that big. It's #4 on [[:d:Special:LongPages]]! Perhaps {{ping|RexxS}} might have ideas for optimising the code, but a better solution would be to move all of the COVID data into [[Help:Tabular Data|tabular data]] rather than storing it in the Wikidata item. Pinging {{ping|TiagoLubiana}} as the bot operator that's added most of the data to that item. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC) :::Thanks for analysis and for calling possible problem-solvers. In general, Covid sucks. As far as I suppose, it is due to {{P|301}} in {{Q|88805825}}. Isn't it the wrong topic anyway? The pandemic has much more aspects than just a list of daily figures. --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC) :::: It looks like it is the right topic. I thought of a work-around for now, I've pointed the infobox to {{Q|Q81068910}} to use info from that instead. It's not ideal, and will need to be undone at some point in the future when the infobox is more efficiently coded, but it avoids the brokenness for now... Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC) ::::: Hi {{u|Mike Peel|Mike}} I'm sporadically working on a 'lite' version of WikidataIB without all of the extra functionality that is demanded on enwiki, so that it can be used as a 'drop-in' replacement in performance critical applications to reduce both the number of entities called and the memory footprint. However, trying to optimise performance is often a balancing act between memory and speed, and it's time-consuming to test what effect any particular change might have. In the long run, we're going to have to re-write the Wikidata Infobox completely in Lua to eliminate the overheads of so many #invokes, but let's see what the Summer Outreachy brings, as that may be a big help. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC) NB: using the infobox without the manual qid still gives a memory error. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:33, 2 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed by rewriting autocat in Lua.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Strange errors and categories at [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia]] == [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia|Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia]] has a bunch of “not enough memory” Lua errors, and also a large list of seemingly arbitrary categories, from “Common years starting on Sunday” to “LGBT people by name”. Does anyone know what’s going on? [[User:Lucas Werkmeister|Lucas Werkmeister]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC) :{{reply|Lucas Werkmeister}} The categories are an artefact of the error messages messing up the template expansion (error messages are non-empty and therefore evaluate as truthy in the <code><nowiki>{{#if:}}</nowiki></code> parser function). As for the out of memory error itself, a likely large contributor to that would seem to be that the [[d:Q87483673|item]] that [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia]] ultimately backs on to is massive, meaning that loading it in its entirety using {{code|mw.wikibase.getEntity()}} (or {{code|mw.wikibase.getEntityObject()}}) in Lua modules several times would cause the Lua VM to run out of memory. This function is used during infobox generation, such as in {{code|preloadWikidataProperties}} in [[Module:Wikidata Infobox]] (called from [[Template:Wikidata Infobox]]) and {{code|getAllLabels}} in [[Module:WikidataIB]] (called from [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/core]]). [[User:GreenComputer|GreenComputer]] ([[User talk:GreenComputer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC) ::{{reply|GreenComputer}} Can you solve this problem? {{ping|Mike Peel}}? It's a pretty awful problem. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC) Update: I just removed the template. Modern times call for simple solutions. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:05, 15 June 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed by rewriting autocat in Lua.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Polish National Library ID == I would like to suggest a replacement of P1695 (NLP) with P7293 (PLWABN) in the authority control section of the template. I fully understand that there can be just one "Polish" ID in the template (and anyway, if there would be space for more, I would see P1207 as much better candidate to take the second spot). My proposal is in line with the policy of the National Library of Poland itself, which has now fully implemented PLWABN as their main authority ID. [[User:Powerek38|Powerek38]] ([[User talk:Powerek38|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC) Good idea! Let's change it! [[User:Gower|Gower]] ([[User talk:Gower|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|Powerek38|Gower}} Is there a plan to deprecate {{P|P1695}} on Wikidata? There's no problem with including multiple IDs from Poland, so I've added both {{P|P7293}} and {{P|P1207}} to the sandbox at {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} - please check that this is working as expected. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} It seems to be working perfectly fine with the sandbox, thank you! At the moment the National Library is still keeping its NLP database online, so the links on Wikidata (and here) are still working. That's why I don't think it should depracated just yet. It has been marked in WD descriptions in many languages that it's the old ID. As far as I know, they don't develop it any more, don't expand the database, don't train people in using it etc. On top of that, PLWABN has been uploaded to Mix'n'match, so if you don't want to create Polish biographical WD elements from scratch and you prefer to have Mix'n'Match preset some properties and labels for you, PLWABN is now probably the most comprehensive source. [[User:Powerek38|Powerek38]] ([[User talk:Powerek38|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:45, 30 December 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Memory/timeout issues cause pages to get added to [[:Category:LGBT people by name]]?? == I've discovered a bit of an odd issue. I was looking in [[:Category:LGBT people by name]] and noticed a number of pages that clearly didn't belong there, such as [[:Category:1906 in Connecticut]], [[:Category:Earthquakes of 2008]], [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina]]. It appears the rogue category was caused by <nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox}}</nowiki> bugging out, but each time in slightly different ways: * On [[:Category:1906 in Connecticut]] (and several other "YEAR in Connecticut" categories), the infobox template was accidentally transcluded twice, and the second instance of it had caused "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." to appear in big red letters about 50 times. Interestingly, "LGBT people by name" did not appear in the list of categories at the bottom of the page (even though the page appears in that category). ** I removed the duplicate infobox from one of these ([[:Category:1823 in Connecticut]]), which fixed the timeout error messages and caused it to disappear from [[:Category:LGBT people by name]]. * On [[:Category:Earthquakes of 2008]], the infobox was also used twice, although there are no visible error messages. "LGBT people by name" doesn't appear in the category list here either. * On [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina]] (and a few other "COVID-19 pandemic in COUNTRY" categories), it appears that the infobox was only used once. However, the page is covered in red bold "Lua error: not enough memory." messages. Curiously, on this page, "LGBT people by name" DOES appear in the list of categories at the bottom. My big question is, why would this random category get added just because a template crashed?? I see some logic in [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/core]] that adds [[:Category:LGBT people by name]], but it clearly requires certain values of {{Q|P21}}; none of these items had P21 set at all. (Possibly unrelated, but I also happened to notice that [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic by country]] has the "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." red error message spam, but it does not appear in [[:Category:LGBT people by name]].) Can anyone figure this one out? Thanks, [[User:IagoQnsi|<span style="color:#a00;">Iago</span><span style="color:#f50;">Qnsi</span>]] ([[User talk:IagoQnsi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 04:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|IagoQnsi}} The problem is that when Lua stops, it stops doing the checks, and returns the categories despite the logic. I've just implemented a work-around for this - the categories are now added through a simple Lua function, so if Lua stops then the categories won't be added. It's in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} at the moment, hopefully that should solve this from the next infobox version (will deploy it soon). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:39, 2 February 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core/sandbox&diff=626863750&oldid=626857356 This solution] is an awful hack IMHO. I think a much cleaner solution would be <kbd>checkProplist</kbd> to return <samp>1</samp> instead of <samp>true</samp> if the property is present, and maybe <samp>0</samp> instead of the empty string if it isn’t, and test if we get a number greater than zero by concatenating the numbers. If Lua has timed out, the result won’t be a number, and depending on the exact implementation an expression error may show up, but no category is added. And this solution doesn’t require an extra Lua call, which would make even more pages to time out/run out of memory. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:45, 3 February 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Tacsipacsi}} I'm all for a better solution. I'll think through what you're suggesting and see what I can do - or if you want to demo it in the sandbox, please go for it? (see [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata_Infobox/sandbox] for the Lua code). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:14, 3 February 2022 (UTC) :::: The code I wrote doesn't seem to work when made live, and I don't understand why that's happening. So for now this is still an open issue. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:16, 19 February 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Fixed by rewriting autocat in Lua.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Mapy.cz ID etc. == Hi [[User:Mike Peel]], could we go back to [[Template talk:Wikidata Infobox/Archive 3#Bridges, POIs, adress format|this attribution]] which was archived without any reaction? * I would appreciate {{P|P8988}} in the Infobox template. This connection is very relevant especially for Czech geographical items. Possible other relevant on-line maps with linkable described objects (points of interest) can be treated in a similar way. * The correct output format of (postal) adresses according to standards of the respective country is a challenge for the future, especially for the system of dual numbering in cities of Czechia and Slovakia. Thank You. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|ŠJů}} I've added {{P|P8988}} to {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, please test that and see if it works as expected? Formatting of addresses is a bigger problem for the future, sorry. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Mike Peel}} Thank You. In the infobox, the ID diplays correctly, but in the link, it is incomplete. E.g. the parameter "base&id=2222420" is shortened to "2222420" and thus doesn't work (the resultant link is https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=2222420 instead of the correct https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=base&id=2222420). --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:32, 29 April 2022 (UTC) Hi [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], within one month, the error was not corrected. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:35, 27 May 2022 (UTC) The infobox link for {{P|P8988}} is invalid, while the link from the Wikidata pages works correctly. Tranformation of the URL adress for the infobox fails. See [[d:Property talk:P8988#Style of external ID]] for futher specification of the problem with the values containing two parameters in one string. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]]: The Mapy.cz links should be working now in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. I tried it on [[:Category:Drábské světničky]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC) :: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Hi. When I try preview page with the template {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, the link is as incorrect as in the current version of {{t|Wikidata Infobox}}, ie. it links "?source=1834772" instead of "?source=base&id=1834772". --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]]: Can you try again and tell me on which page the link is incorrect? Thanks. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:12, 29 July 2022 (UTC) :::: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Hi. Tested again on the preview page of [[:Category:Drábské světničky]] with the template {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. The page generates liks https://wikidata-externalid-url.toolforge.org/?p=8988&url_prefix=https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=&id=base&id=1834772 which results to https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=1834772, instead of the correct https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=base&id=1834772. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:36, 29 July 2022 (UTC) :::::@[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]]: That's weird. When I preview that page with the sandbox template, it generates https://wikidata-externalid-url.toolforge.org/?p=8988&url_prefix=https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=&id=base%26id%3D1834772 (note how everything after <code>source=&id=</code> is percent-encoded), which results to https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?source=base&id=1834772 (I even tried it on multiple operating systems and web browsers). :::::Does the link on [[d:Q625415#P8988]] work for you? It does for me. The best solution would be to split the property into "base ID", "muni ID", "ward ID" etc. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC) :::::: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} The links from the Wikidata item page work correctly. Now I found out that when I insert the sandbox-template directly to the Commons category page, the link works correctly, while through the "Preview page with this template" function of the template-edit page, the link works not correctly. I.e. the sandbox version of the template may be correct, but the "Preview page with this template" function of template pages has some bug. The bug seems to be independent on the browser (tested in Firefox, Edge and Chrome). --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC) ::::::: {{reply to|ŠJů}} “Preview page with this template” shows the preview with whichever templates it uses. It doesn’t automagically use the sandbox instead of the main template, the only thing it does replacing the currently edited template’s saved content with the content that’s currently in the edit box—if the currently edited template is used at all. In the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Drábské_světničky&oldid=678477480 July 28 version of the category], {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} wasn’t used, so if you used that version for the preview, previewing it from the sandbox didn’t make any difference. Generally, using “Preview page with this template” makes only sense if you’ve changed the content of the edit box before, otherwise it shows exactly the same as how opening the target page would look like. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:19, 31 July 2022 (UTC) :::::::: {{ping|Tacsipacsi}} You are right, that was my thinking short circuit that I tried to test it through “Preview page with this template” instead of through the preview of the category page with a replaced template. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:04, 31 July 2022 (UTC) :::::::: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Sorry for my mistake, the sandbox template is OK. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:04, 31 July 2022 (UTC) :::::: The proposal to have many special properties for Mapy.cz links instead of one universal two-parameter property was discussed, but was rejected. It would complicate the work of all subsequent infoboxes, scripts or other tools across projects. I think it is easier to solve one problem with wrong encoding of URL links than to maintain an ever-increasing number of analog properties, and for each new layer of data that appears in the future, again tediously asking for approval of every new property. For now, it were 14 properties (addr|area|base|coun|dist|muni|quar|regi|stre|ward|osm|pubt|firm|traf), and more may be added or discovered in the future. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Links to Mapy.cz are working now.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Bug with getOriginalCombination == If the original combination of a taxon has a citation, it is currently displayed directly after the combination's name string without a space inbetween. To take an example from my usual focus on Commons (since I can't find any non-obscure examples offhand), [[:Category:Bromius obscurus]]'s original combination displays as "''Chrysomela obscura''Linnaeus, 1758". [[User:Monster Iestyn|Monster Iestyn]] ([[User talk:Monster Iestyn|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:32, 5 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Monster Iestyn|Monster Iestyn]]: Good catch! Should there also be a comma after the combination's name or should the citation be wrapped in parentheses if the value on Wikidata isn't already wrapped in parentheses? Stated differently, which of the following formats do you prefer? :# ''Chrysomela obscura'' Linnaeus, 1758 :# ''Chrysomela obscura'', Linnaeus, 1758 :# ''Chrysomela obscura'' (Linnaeus, 1758) :Or should it be something else? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] No, there shouldn't be a comma after the combination's name, and the citation should not be wrapped in parentheses if the value on Wikidata didn't have them. (The parentheses have a specific meaning in both botany and zoology, so they should not be used all the time.) So I'd say format 1 is best. [[User:Monster Iestyn|Monster Iestyn]] ([[User talk:Monster Iestyn|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Monster Iestyn|Monster Iestyn]]: Fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. Will be made live in a few weeks. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Now live|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Decoding Q-values == The template does a great thing, translating the Q-id values of wikidata statements into blue links pointing to Commons categories. However, I notice that it seems to be missing cases where it would need to follow {{P|910}} and then the sitelink from that item to get the Commons category. For example, on [[:Category:General Post Office (1874 building)]], the template is not blue-linking "General Post Office" because it is not following the chain :{{Q|1325334}} -> {{P|910}} -> {{Q|13263440}} -> [[:Category:General Post Office (United Kingdom)]] On the other hand, it is blue-linking {{Q|Q7590022}} to [[:Category:French Protestant Church in the City of London]] apparently following a spurious {{P|373}} statement on that item. ([https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7590022&oldid=1439995894#P373 snapshot]). P373s quite often have problems, haven't been updated in a long time, and if [[User:Mike Peel]] had his way would all be abolished, so should only be used as a last resort (if at all). The {{P|910}} mechanism is what the template should be following if possible, when it is a category-item rather than a main item on WD that holds the sitelink. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Jheald}} The problem here seems to be bad {{P|P373}} values, and the need to improve {{P|P910}} values and similar on Wikidata? I'm not sure this needs a change to the infobox, except it would be good to get rid of uses of {{P|P373}}? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:19, 12 August 2022 (UTC) ::{{re|Mike Peel}} The key problem I wanted to flag is that the template isn't following {{P|P910}} values as a fallback, even when they are there. That's not a wikidata problem, it's revealing an issue with the template code. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:30, 12 August 2022 (UTC) :::Not sure why the Post Office isn't linked. <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:WikidataIB|getCommonsLink|qid=Q1325334}}</nowiki></code> works fine. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Jheald}} Fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} with [[Special:Diff/682198150|this edit]]. To my big surprise, WikidataIB was using {{P|P373}} instead of getCommonsLink for the links. How did we not notice this before??? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Links at the bottom shouldn't split over multiple lines == A minor thing: some of the links at the bottom now seem to split over multiple lines, in particular sta-tistics, and KML <line break> file. It would look a bit better if we just started a new line, rather than splitting the links, probably it just needs a CSS tweak. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|I added CSS nowrap to each item|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)}} == first family name in Portuguese name == Hi, guys! ㋡<br> There is a new property for surnames, but it does not add surname categories yet because it is not included in this template. I will be grateful if any of you can add it.<br> {{P|9139}} [[User:Minerva97|<font color="#32CD32">'''Minerva97'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Minerva97|<font color="#32CD32">'''talk'''</font>]]) 13:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC) {{Section resolved|{{P|9139}} is now used for autocat.|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == P1639 == Hello. I believe we should display {{P|1639}}. This would be very useful for categories such as [[:Category:Portrait of Battista Sforza]]. Can someone add the required code where needed? [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:43, 18 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Thierry Caro}} Added. You can find {{P|1639}} right after {{P|P361}}. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC) ::{{Ping|LennardHofmann}} Art lovers thank you. [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:56, 24 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Display of occupation (P106) depending on gender (P21) == Hi I see that in [[:Category:Eilling_Bekken]] that occupation is displayed in french as « skieur ou skieuse ». However, it should be displayed using WD:P2521 or WD:P3321 to be correct, depending if person is female or male-gendered (and if no gender is specified, label can be displayed). Sadly, I do not know lua and I can't make any suggestion to fix this. Do you know how to fix this? Regards [[User:Lupin~fr|Lupin~fr]] ([[User talk:Lupin~fr|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:15, 19 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Mike Peel}} could you take a look at this? (and it's not only for French, but in French we will change soon-ish all the Wikidata labels so it will be particulary visible). Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:09, 20 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Lupin~fr|VIGNERON}} The values for {{P|106}} and most other properties are formatted using [[Module:WikidataIB]]. I added a new parameter {{para|gendered}} to WikidataIB/sandbox and instructed {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} to use it for {{P|106}}. The sandbox versions will be made live on Wed, Aug 24 if the changes didn't introduce new problems. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:08, 20 August 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks a lot {{U|LennardHofmann}}, here some tests that seems to work well: ::[[d:Q113495060]] {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getValue |P106 |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no |qid=Q113495060 | linkprefix=":" |gendered =yes }} ::[[d:Q10085]] {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getValue |P106 |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no |qid=Q10085 | linkprefix=":" |gendered =yes }} ::[[d:Q7186]] (for a totally different example) {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getValue |P106 |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no |qid=Q7186 | linkprefix=":" |gendered =yes }} ::I think it's good to go live. {{ping|Lupin~fr}} feel free to do other test. ::Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 20 August 2022 (UTC) :::Thank you very much @[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] and @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) [[User:Lupin~fr|Lupin~fr]] ([[User talk:Lupin~fr|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:06, 20 August 2022 (UTC) Other test on [[:Category:Jonathan Van Ness]] (a non-binary person) : {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getValue |P106 |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no |qid=Q50379405 | linkprefix=":" |gendered =yes }} (per {{u|Shev123}} idea). {{ping|PAC2|Lupin~fr}} is it what we expect? if not, what should we expect? Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC) :Good one @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]. :Since this person does not identify themself as a man or a women, and if no épicène form is available, this result seems the best we can do to me. [[User:Lupin~fr|Lupin~fr]] ([[User talk:Lupin~fr|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:35, 21 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Expanding autocat for gender by country categories == Just a thought, we could extend autocat to include subcats of [[:Category:People by name by country]] (particularly men/women by country) using {{P|P27}}. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:15, 20 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|Added (see function <code>countrycat</code> in [[Module:Wikidata Infobox]]).|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Label fallbacks no longer work == See report at [[w:Wikidata:Report a technical problem#Issue with "category combines topics"]]. Looking at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_of_Nasir-ol-Molk_Mosque?uselang=sh, the issue is actually not constrained to {{P|P971}}, but rather affects all values that don’t have Serbo-Croatian labels ({{Q|Q1962312}}, {{Q|Q5957165}} and {{Q|Q5883370}} in this case). Wherever it should fall back to English (or another South Slavic language—Serbo-Croatian’s fallback chain is <code>bs, sr-el, hr</code>), it displays the Qid instead. (It has nothing to do with the fact that Serbo-Croatian has several fallback languages, though, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_of_Nasir-ol-Molk_Mosque?uselang=hu Hungarian]—which falls back directly to English—also shows some Qid’s.) —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]]: Thanks for letting me know. This should now be fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} thanks to [[Special:Diff/684951649]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:36, 25 August 2022 (UTC) ::{{reply to|LennardHofmann}} Thanks for fixing it! Previewing the named category with the sandbox looks good now. ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} I think this is a major regression, could we get an out-of-schedule sync from the sandbox? ::{{ping|Orijentolog}} FYI. The normal infobox is not yet fixed, but if you change <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox}}</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}</nowiki></code> (and either save it or just click preview), it should be good. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:48, 26 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The fix is now live|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == "Double" surnames == A little bug report for the Lua version of the box (by the way - the new version is even better than the old one has been, thank you so much for all the work!). In my native language, Polish, when someone (usually woman, but men are also legally allowed to do it) is getting married and decides to use both their maiden name and their spouse's name, those two names are connected by "-" sign and written next to each other. This is commonly known as a "double surname". On Wikidata we express this by adding two statements of P734 with P1545 qualifier to indicate the order of names. In the old infobox, both surnames were automatically displayed in categories. After the Lua relaunch only the first one is displayed. Examples: [[:Category:Marta Malec-Lech|1]], [[:Category:Małgorzata Kidawa-Błońska|2]]. Thank you for looking into this. [[User:Powerek38|Powerek38]] ([[User talk:Powerek38|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:06, 25 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Powerek38|Powerek38]]: Thanks for letting me know. This should now be fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:50, 25 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The fix is now live|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Empty categories == If a person has multiple surnames, such as [[Wikidata:Q28736]] (Nasse-Meyfarth/Meyfarth), only the first name from the list will be displayed in the categories. The same is the case with e.g. [[Wikidata:Q102592]] (Kallee/von Kallee), the [[:Category:Von Kallee (surname)]] is now Empty, as it is for many others. [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:59, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :Already fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC) ::When will the changes be visible? The [[:Category:Von Kallee (surname)]] is still empty. Hopefully, empty categories will not be suggested for quick deletion now. [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:23, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|HarryNº2}} The changes will be visible at some point today. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:23, 27 August 2022 (UTC) ::::Thank you! [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: Do you still want to make the changes live today? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The fix is now live|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Reverse order of categories == Why do a person's awards ([[Wikidata:Property:P166]]) appear first in category order recently, see e.g. [[:Category:Eduard von Kallee]]? [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :It's pretty annoying that the awards categories are at the start. I changed the order in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC) ::When will the changes be visible? The awards still at the beginning in the order of the categories. [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:18, 27 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|The fix is now live|[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Lua errors in Covid related categories == [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic by country]] and [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Europe]] still have Lua errors ("The time allocated for running scripts has expired"). The issue with enormous COVID related items was discussed many times before. In case of [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic by country]], is the issue the size of {{Q|Q83741704}} (100 kG), a page linked through {{P|P301}} or the size of {{Q|Q81068910}} (1.1 GB) which is linked through {{P|P971}}? I tried to use <nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox|suppressfields=P971}}</nowiki> to presumably tell {{tl|Wikidata Infobox}} to suppress it use of P971, but it did not helped. Any ideas on how to tell the template to ignore P971? [[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]]: The problematic item is {{Q|Q83741704}}. The infobox only uses {{P|P971}} for [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with subinfoboxes|subinfoboxes]] if the connected Wikidata item has no {{P|P301}}. There is currently no parameter to disable subinfoboxes. :I fixed the timeout by adding {{para|suppressfields|P527}}. Calling getCommonsLink on the {{P|P527}} values was slow because of [[phab:T237884]]. I disabled links for collapsed values because of this, but recently I added exceptions for {{P|P527}} and {{P|P2789}} to fix [[#{{Label|P527|link=-}} (P527) with higher number of values doesn't display links?|user's complaints]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC) ::[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]], Thanks a lot. How to work with {{tl|Wikidata Infobox}} to prevent it's timeout issues is always a bit mysterious to me. I noticed [[:Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina]] also has errors now. It is connected to 4GB item by P301. I tried to suppress bunch of fields: <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox|suppressfields=P527,P1120,P1603,P8010,P8011}}</nowiki></code>, but did not fixed the errors. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:58, 10 August 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]]: The memory issues are fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} thanks to [[Special:Diff/681407191]], which gets rid of getAllLabels, getAllDescriptions, and getAllAliases, cutting down three redundant <code>getEntity('Q87235137')</code> calls. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:56, 10 August 2022 (UTC) ::::Nice. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:19, 10 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)}} == Map-Shapes Protected Areas == The Infobox does sometimes show a Coordinate and sometimes show a coordinate and a shape in the map. Examples: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NSG_Kissinger_Heide Infobox mit Shape] vs [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Naturschutzgebiet_Lechauwald_bei_Unterbergen Infobox ohne Shape].<br /> The shape is NOT uploaded to wikidata nor did i find it in commons. Can anyone tell me, where the shape-data is coming from, how to find this information (is there some LUA in the background?) and why it is sometimes there and sometimes not? Thank you for making a simple editor very happy! --[[User:Ordercrazy|Ordercrazy]] ([[User talk:Ordercrazy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Ordercrazy}} It comes from OpenStreetMap. If you edit OSM, you can add a Wikidata QID to structures there. Then, once WMF updates its copy of the OSM map, the shape will appear in the infoboxes. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:06, 11 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)}} == WikiShootMe == Having seen the WikiShootMe link here, I recently ([[:d:Topic:Wzxkas0e7gxw6eiw|thread]]) asked Magnus whether it would be possible to highlight images that are already in a category, to (i) make their locations obvious, and (ii) help to identify nearby images that are ''not'' yet in the category, but perhaps should be. A test version of this is now live: achieved by adding <code>&main_commons_category=...</code> to the end of the WSM url, to give eg https://wikishootme.toolforge.org/#lat=52.166484557136386&lng=0.13515651226043704&zoom=18&layers=commons,wikidata_image,wikidata_no_image&main_commons_category=Nine_Wells <br /> Images that are in the category (or within two sub-cats below it) now get a little lemon-yellow halo. Would it be possible to update the link from the template here accordingly, to be able to give it a go? Thanks, [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Jheald}} Has been added to {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. Try it on {{c|Cambridge}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:57, 13 August 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks! Jusr tried it on [[:c:Category:Sheilhill Old Bridge]] and I think this could be very useful. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)}} == additional media properties == The following were created only a while ago. Maybe some could be included as well: *{{Property|P8512}} (for many things). Sample: [[d:Q300949#P8512]] for [[:Category:Hyperoodon ampullatus]] *{{Property|P8592}} (for any location). Sample: [[d:Q513#P8592]] for [[:Category:Mount_Everest]] *{{Property|P9721}} (mainly for buildings, but also for other types). Sample: [[d:Q897712#P9721]] for [[:Category:Great Lavra Belltower]] *{{Property|P10093}} (proposed for paintings, but applicable to other objects as well. Will be more useful there). Sample: [[d:Q5826311#P10093]] for [[:Category:The Port of Marseilles by Paul Signac (Hermitage, 1907)]] Full list is at [[d:Special:ListProperties/commonsMedia]]. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 11:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC) :All of those are added now except for {{P|P10093}} because it would be shown on only [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fitem%20%3Fcat%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP10093%20_%3AanyValueP10093.%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20p%3AP910%20_%3AanyValueP910.%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20UNION%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fcat%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20%3B%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2F%3E%20.%20%0A%20%20%7D%0A%7D ten category pages]. It would also be nice to keep track of new image properties being created since image properties are the cheapeast to add to the infobox. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Bug? Why is {{P|P1889}} no longer displayed? == Why is {{P|P1889}} no longer displayed in the Infobox? See e.g. [[:Category:Bornschein (surname)]] and other Categorys with names. [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]]: As stated in the changelog, I changed it so that only linked values are shown for {{P|P1889}}. This hides many useless {{Q|Q27924673}} values. Do you find unlinked values useful sometimes? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC) ::Basically yes, so that the reader is informed that there are other people and terms in Wikimedia projects that go with the name, even if no page has been created on Commons yet. --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:02, 21 July 2022 (UTC) :: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Generally, linked items with no Commons category are usually equally important as a value which has its own Commons category. The problem is that if there is a pure label with no description and no link, it is often impossible to recognize which item they are referring to. For values with no Commons category link, a link to the Wikidata item page should be added instead (and maybe also its description in the bubble tooltip). Besides, I think the request for an alternative link for such cases has already been raised. To suppress all these values in the infobox was not a good idea. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC) :::{{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} now shows all values for {{P|1889}} and has links to Wikidata with tooltip. Try it at [[:Category:Bornschein (surname)]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:36, 24 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)}} == unit testing == [[User:Mike Peel]] I added [[Module:Wikidata Infobox/testcases|testing]] and [[Module:Wikidata Infobox/testcases|test results]] pages to your module. Please expand. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:17, 17 August 2019 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Wrong map for "Category:Lake islands of the United States" == [[:Category:Lake islands of the United States]] shows map of Europe and North Africa. [[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:01, 31 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]]: Thanks for letting me know, the map was zoomed in too much. This is now fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. The next time you see a badly zoomed map with a highlighted shape, try previewing the page with {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, and if that doesn't fix it, add an {{P|P402}} statement to the item. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Icons look great == Hey, I noticed that the infobox recently started showing icons next to many external identifiers. I assume this came as part of @[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]]'s rewrite -- thanks for adding that! I started adding icons to lots of properties a while back in hopes that someone would find them useful, and I'm thrilled to see them finally being used. Cheers, [[User:IagoQnsi|<span style="color:#a00;">Iago</span><span style="color:#f50;">Qnsi</span>]] ([[User talk:IagoQnsi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 06:59, 5 August 2022 (UTC) :But these icons shouldn't be clickable (with link=no) in order to not display in the MediaViewer. —&nbsp;'''[[User:Draceane|Draceane]]'''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Draceane|talk]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-20px">[[Special:Contributions/Draceane|contrib.]]</sub> 12:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:Draceane|Draceane]]: Agreed, but according to [[w:Help:Pictures#Links]], the link is required to credit the icon's copyright holder. Looking at [[mw:Help:Extension:Media_Viewer#How_can_I_disable_Media_Viewer_for_unrelated_images?|How can I disable Media Viewer for unrelated images?]], the best option seems to be <code>|class=noviewer</code>. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:11, 30 August 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} The Wikimedia convention is to use the 'link=no' parameter for icons like these, since they are being used in a way that shouldn't be clickable. It's less about MediaViewer compatibilty, more about user interface friendliness. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Video should not be in the image switcher == Example at [[:Category:Knowledge for Everyone]] - it would be better if the image showed below the image switcher, rather than part of it, the same way we show audio separately. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC) :I'm afraid the video thumbnail would take too much space if it was shown separately on [[:Category:European Union]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC) :: Good point. I'm not sure that is a useful video there... Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:03, 9 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Display P1343? == Would it be possible to display {{P|1343}}? It was recently added to a lot of danish churches (example: {{Q|11999538}}) and I know of at least one user who would appreciate this a lot. Thanks. --[[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:27, 4 November 2019 (UTC) :It's probably possible, but I would argue against it. Wikidata Infoboxes should concisely present only the most relevant, essential information on a subject rather than indiscriminate, tangential, or trivial data of interest to only a relatively small number of people. Any famous person or place may be described by dozens if not hundreds of sources (e.g. encyclopedias, databases, books, scholarly articles, etc.). An exhaustive list of {{P|1343}} would be, exhausting. We don't need to regurgitate the entirety of Wikidata on every Commons page. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC) ::I understand, but then again I would argue that {{Q|11964713}} can hardly be labeled "trivial" or "tangential". Almost all danish churches are represented in wikidata, but far from all of them in any wikipedia and in those cases the mentioned user would add links to {{Q|11964713}} to the associated Commons page, rather than click the wikidata link. I basically want to remove his (perceived) need to do that. --[[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC) :It looks like there should probably be a Wikidata eternal-ID property for that source. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC) :: {{ping|Hjart}} Would an external-ID property work here? I think that would be a better solution than trying to display {{P|1343}}, if possible. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:30, 15 November 2019 (UTC) ::: {{ping|steenth}} is responsible for the current situation and I think it would be better to have him answer that question. --[[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:46, 15 November 2019 (UTC) :::: {{ping|steenth|Hjart}} ? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|Hjart|Animalparty|Pigsonthewing|steenth}} I'm going to decline this, sorry. The best solution is to create a new property for the database, which we can easily add to the infobox. However, adding {{P|1343}} would likely add too much in other items. {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:34, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} ==Alternate image== Is the alternate image, [[:d:Property:P6802]] meant to display in the Wikidata infobox if the primary image is missing? It currently does not. I thought the idea was that if we do not have an image of the person or thing something closely related was meant to display, like a cover of a book they wrote or a work of art they created. Currently we display images of gravestones and coats of arms if no primary image is available, and we have the option of displaying all of them by ticking a box in the infobox even when the primary image is present. For instance at {{Q|Q7344166}} since we have no image of him, the image of his book would display. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC) *This is a question probably better asked at [[Commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox]]. In my opnion, infoboxes should ''not'' display tangential images, which can easily attract cruft and trivia. Some people would rather have infoboxes display every conceivable iota of information imaginable. Looks matter. Less is more. And in the case of Mr. Ensko, I'd argue it's better to have no image than an image of a book. Inboxes should display only the most exemplary images, not any old image available. [[User:Animalparty|-Animalparty]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC) :{{ping|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )}} The behaviour here has changed a while back, the book image now displays correctly. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Please defaultsort without tussenvoegsel == I'm disabling the defaultsort quite often because Dutch family names aren't sorted by their "tussenvoegsel", {{P|P7377}}. If we did the D and V would be 40% of the Dutch phone book. Please consider automating this. <span style="font-family:'Vivaldi',serif;font-size:142%;">[[User:1Veertje|Vera]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:1Veertje|talk]])</sup> 08:43, 9 February 2020 (UTC) : This may need proper data setup and coding for the P7377 property in Wikidata. [[User:Ghouston|--ghouston]] ([[User talk:Ghouston|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC) ::how/where can this be done/requested? <span style="font-family:'Vivaldi',serif;font-size:142%;">[[User:1Veertje|Vera]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:1Veertje|talk]])</sup> 14:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC) ::*{{re|1Veertje}} See [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Names]]. (I just commented there on another human onomastics matter that’s affecting Commons cats; I’m not holding my breath waiting for a solution, though.) -- [[User:Tuvalkin|Tuválkin]] [[User talk:Tuvalkin|✉]] [[Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin|✇]] 04:21, 11 February 2020 (UTC) :::: Does it need any further work on the Wikidata side? The setup seems already possible on surname items, e.g., as used on [[:d:Q7913878|Q7913878]]. But that's not enough to fix the sort order, e.g., on [[:Category:Nick van der Velden]]. Presumably the infobox template would need modication to support it, and this is the right place to request it. [[User:Ghouston|--ghouston]] ([[User talk:Ghouston|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:24, 11 February 2020 (UTC) ::*Maybe for each prefix (or each family name) one needs to add a statement that the prefix should be ignored for sorting (sample: "has quality" = "ignore for Commons sorting") . [[User:Jura1|Jura1]] ([[User talk:Jura1|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:07, 11 February 2020 (UTC) ::*:According to [[w:WP:MCSTJR]], Belgian people born after 1830 are sorted with their tussenvoegsel (e.g. [[:en:Paul_van_Ostaijen|Paul van Ostaijen]] is sorted "Van Ostaijen, Paul"), so there is not much we can do. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|1Veertje|Ghouston|Tuvalkin|Jura1}} This isn't done per the comment by {{Ping|LennardHofmann}}. I think this needs more work on the Wikidata side of things to properly implement in a way that can cope with exceptions - perhaps by having {{P|P7377}}={{Q|Q69869239}} and {{P|P734}}={{Q|Q106331968}} in the items it applies to. Or if not, we need a clear recipe for what will work. For now there's the DEFAULTSORT override that hopefully works OK? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Roman names == Hi, could the wikidata properties [[:w:P2365|Roman cognomen]] and [[:w:P2358|Roman praenomen]] be used for the sorting into correspongding given and surname categories (and perhaps as DEFAULTSORT as well)? Thx and regards --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 07:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC) :@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: Any comments or opinions? --[[User:JuTa|Ju]][[User talk:JuTa|Ta]] 13:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC) ::It does not seem to be common to categorize people of Ancient Rome into given name and surname categories; I only see categories such as {{c|Gens Iulia}}. What do others think? --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC) {{ping|JuTa}} This isn't done per {{ping|LennardHofmann}}'s comment. If it isn't common and it should be, then it probably needs a discussion elsewhere first. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Suppress display on file pages == I've just removed an instance of this template from [[:File:Mecodema dux (2).jpg]]. Can we wrap the template code in the necessary markup to stop it displaying in the File: namespace? Should we do so for other namespaces? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 21:25, 28 October 2019 (UTC) :Maybe better than just suppressing a maintenance category and a reference to the new lua-enabled depicts templates your building @Mike Peel? [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:51, 28 October 2019 (UTC) * Why? It's a basic principle in software engineering that you don't ever rule out some potential feature just because ''you'' can't think of a use for it. Before excluding this so bluntly, we'd have to show that either there could never be (not merely isn't currently) a valid use for it, or that such a use would be positively harmful. : Secondly, we shouldn't ever exclude features from a general aspect because of one use of it. Maybe it's not appropriate to use the Infobox on this image (Why?), certainly it doesn't work as it has a duff ID. But that's no reason to remove it from all possible File: pages. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:37, 28 October 2019 (UTC) The vertical format of the infobox definitely doesn't work well on file pages. However, I'm currently working on {{tl|Structured Data}}, which is the equivalent to this template for files (via structured data on commons), and I haven't ruled out reusing this template in that one yet (with formatting tweaks). So can we hold off on this for a short time until we figure out what the optimal solution for file pages is, please? (And please leave feedback on the new template if you can think of ways to improve it!) Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:55, 29 October 2019 (UTC) :{{ping|Mike Peel}} Any news? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 14:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} Nudge... <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 10:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC) === disable use in File namespace === Can we disable use of this template in File namespace? for some reason I see more of those lately. Sometimes it is added directly an sometimes by intentionally or accidentally transcluding category page. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC) :See [[#Suppress display on file pages]], above. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:33, 22 June 2020 (UTC) {{ping|Pigsonthewing|Jarekt|Sadads|Andy Dingley}} It's clear that it's not appropriate to use this infobox on file pages. Last year, I was hoping that it might be possible to modify it so it would work well there by including different code in that namespace, but now I think it's better if that is a completely separate template (like {{tl|Structured Data}}), particularly given the performance issues that have been raised. My preference would still be to keep the status quo, though. It's easy to spot uses of the infobox in file namespace by looking at [[:Category:Wikidata infobox maintenance]], and there aren't too many of them, so they can be manually resolved. The alternative is that we add a namespace check to the template that disables the display of the infobox, and adds it to a maintenance category. However, that check would have to be done on every use of the template, which adds to the performance issue. Thoughts? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:02, 1 July 2020 (UTC) : My preference would be to just disable it in other namespaces by wrapping the whole template in a IF statement checking the namespace. We often have such statements when adding "problem" categories to some pages but not the others. I do not know why but I see lately much more categories added manually with {{}} brackets instead of [[]] brackets which transclude the category page with {{tl|Wikidata Infobox }}, which then has weird interaction with SDC and creates errors. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC) :: {{ping|Jarekt}} Is there another way of identifying the incorrect brackets issue apart from infobox mis-transcludes? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC) :::One can create SQL query to find transcluded category pages. The problem is that at some point we had some crazy scheme of adding Artwork template to a category and than transclude the category. It was always a bad idea and we still have plenty of it around. We would have to exclude those from the query. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:07, 1 July 2020 (UTC) : Do you have any examples of File: pages with these infoboxes? There don't seem to be any at present. : I find it slightly hard to imagine when this would be useful (the canonical image of a clear topic for which there's a WD entry?), but still can't see a reason to break the infobox from ''ever'' being used like this. If a particular use is inappropriate, then a better (and simpler) solution would be to simply remove it from that page. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC) ::[[User:Andy Dingley|Andy]] I am spending a lot of my time simply removing it from pages, which I would rather spend doing other things. To me it seems like a sanity check: the template was not designed to be used that way so lets prevent it from being used that way. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:59, 1 July 2020 (UTC) ::* OK then, '''''OPPOSE''''' ::: If you can't give a reason for, or even an ''example'' of, how awful such use of this template is, then don't expect me to support a blanket ban on anything. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:21, 1 July 2020 (UTC) ::{{tq|"can't see a reason to break the infobox from ''ever'' being used like this"}} Nothing would be "broken", and especially not for "ever"; this being a wiki, any edit can be reverted or changed. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 22:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC) :is there some similar template for the use in the file-name-space. If yes this can replace WIKIDAT INFO template. Altough I do not understand that it should not used in the file-namespace.--[[User:Hfst|Hfst]] ([[User talk:Hfst|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:35, 15 October 2020 (UTC) {{ping|Pigsonthewing|Sadads|Andy Dingley|Jarekt|Hfst}} I'm marking this as not done since it really doesn't seem to be a big problem? Or at least, if you look through the subcategories of [[:Category:Wikidata infobox maintenance]], it's rare to see files being included - and if they are it's easy to fix. It would be possible to add the check if really needed, but is it worth the overhead? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Vestmannabjørgini == I added a {{P|706}} to {{Q|1425782}} and now the infobox in [[:Category:Vestmannabjørgini]] looks rather weird. The island Streymoy is subdivided in 4 administrative areas. What do? --[[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC) {{ping|Hjart}} This seems to have sorted itself out? Otherwise, the fix is on Wikidata: use {{P|P131}} instead. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Infoboxes on disambiguation pages == I complained at [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]’s talk page about adding the infobox on disambiguation categories, and he directed me here to have more opinions on the topic. For those who don’t want to read through [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Peel&oldid=430116385#Wikidata_infobox_on_disambiguation_page the discussion over there], I summarize the opinions: * In Mike’s view the infobox is useful on disambiguation categories, as it may provide disambiguation links that aren’t listed elsewhere, and its categorization feature helps finding disambiguation categories connected with non-disambiguation items or vice versa. * In my view the infobox is completely unnecessary on disambiguation categories, at least on clear ones (i.e. ones that are marked as disambiguation both on Commons and Wikidata). I think the infobox is not a natural place to search disambiguation links at; they should be rather added to the main list. In clear cases, the maintenance categories don’t help either, as there’s nothing to fix. In my opinion adding these infoboxes is a plain waste of server resources (albeit not a huge one thanks to the low number of disambiguation categories). Thoughts? —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC) :I share you view that the infobox for that type of categories is completely unnecessary and without any added value.[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC) * Give some examples please. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:31, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ** Just click on the discussion link above, and you’ll find the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Baja&diff=427697241 example]. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC) ** These are nominally tracked in [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox for disambig pages]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:55, 10 August 2020 (UTC) : I'm more with Mike Peel here. I find it useful for users to see that there is a corresponding Wikidata item, linking it to articles in various languages. I very often look at corresponding articles in various languages to better understand differences and commonalities of the various meanings of a term in those languages. And - even if you see little value for yourself, does it do any harm to have those boxes? -- [[User:H005|<span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em grey; color: #6C216C">H<span style="font-size:.7em; text-decoration: underline; vertical-Align:top;">00</span>5</span>]] 14:04, 10 August 2020 (UTC) ::The interlanguage links appear in the sidebar even without the infobox. (The infobox provides interlanguage links only when the category page is connected to a category item (i.e. the item has {{P|P31}}: {{Q|Q4167836}}), which I can hardly imagine to happen in case of disambiguation categories.) I don’t find it harmful, though, apart from seeing it as a plain waste of resources (both bot/server and human resources—the unnecessary page history/watchlist entries need to be scanned and understood.) —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:17, 10 August 2020 (UTC) {{ping|Tacsipacsi|Jklamo|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|H005}} I'm closing this as I don't see a consensus either way, and it's been several years now. Perhaps it needs a discussion at a wider venue at some point. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == IMO for ships == Can we bring {{tl|IMO}} and {{tl|IMOcat}} into this template, using {{P|458}}? The latter is verbose, but needlessly so IMO. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 23:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC) : Why would IMOcat help? It's just a pointer to an IMO category, which can be done with a simple link. [[User:Clindberg|Carl Lindberg]] ([[User talk:Clindberg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:44, 6 August 2020 (UTC) :: {{Re|Pigsonthewing|Clindberg}} I'm not sure how best to integrate this. If you look at [[:Category:Hanseatic (ship, 1930)]], the link to the IMO category is under 'Category combines topics', although perhaps it's not too obvious. But does it really need to be made very obvious using IMOcat? Also, the P458 link (and other authority control) isn't currently shown in these 'category combines' categories for performance reasons. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC) ::: I don't see how integrating these would help either -- I do see the links to the IMO cat, and that seems enough to me. Well it might be nice to have the IMO number displayed -- it currently uses the Wikidata title for its IMO entry, which is usually an arbitrary one of the ship names over its history, and may be a little confusing given there is likely another Commons category with that other name but that's not where the link goes. IMOcat is fine standalone, I think. And I would definitely want to fix the performance before expanding the template's scope :-) [[User:Clindberg|Carl Lindberg]] ([[User talk:Clindberg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC) {{ping|Pigsonthewing|Clindberg}} Sorry, but I don't think this will happen any time soon, and things seem to be working OK as they are. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Non-terrestrial coordinates == Coordinates on [[:Category:Gale Crater]], which is about a feature on Mars, are not displaying correctly; compare with those on {{Q|Q622221}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 18:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|RexxS}} I've been trying to find the cause of this, see my recent edits in [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/core/sandbox]], but it's weird. The problem is in the code <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:Coordinates | GeoHack_link | lat={{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=lat}} | lon={{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=long}}|globe={{#invoke:WikidataIB|getLabel|{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getGlobe|{{{qid}}}}}}}}}</nowiki></code>. However, if you substitute the qid for Q622221, then it works fine: {{#invoke:Coordinates | GeoHack_link | lat={{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid=Q622221 | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=lat}} | lon={{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid=Q622221 | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=long}}|globe={{#invoke:WikidataIB|getLabel|{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getGlobe|Q622221}}}}}}. The problem seems to be with the WikidataIB calls, which aren't returning values that are passed to Coordinates. Can you see what's going on? The only thing I can think of it some sort of whitespace bug? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:01, 3 September 2020 (UTC) :: :: Before I do any more detective work, can you confirm that replacing each <code><nowiki>{{{qid}}}</nowiki></code> with <code><nowiki>{{{qid|}}}</nowiki></code> does not fix the problem? :: These are the results of the calls: ::* <code><nowiki>>{{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid|Q622221}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=lat}}<</nowiki></code> → >{{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid|Q622221}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=lat}}< ::* <code><nowiki>>{{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid|Q622221}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=long}}<</nowiki></code> → >{{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid|Q622221}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=long}}< ::* <code><nowiki>>{{#invoke:WikidataIB|getLabel|{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getGlobe|{{{qid|Q622221}}}}}}}<</nowiki></code> → >{{#invoke:WikidataIB|getLabel|{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getGlobe|{{{qid|Q622221}}}}}}}< :: All of those look right to me. But the code <code><nowiki>{{{qid}}}</nowiki></code> will be set to <code><nowiki>{{{qid}}}</nowiki></code> literally if the parameter is not supplied, whereas it needs to be set to blank for WikidataIB to use the qid associated with the page. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:22, 3 September 2020 (UTC) :: Forgot to ping {{u|Mike Peel}}. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:23, 3 September 2020 (UTC) ::: {{ping|RexxS}} Yes, I removed the | in <code><nowiki>{{{qid|}}}</nowiki></code> as part of my debugging attempt, it didn't make a difference. The starting code was <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:Coordinates | GeoHack_link | lat={{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid|}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=lat}} | lon={{#invoke:WikidataIB | getPreferredValue | P625 | qid={{{qid|}}} | fwd={{{fwd|ALL}}} | maxvals=1 | osd=no | noicon=yes | format=decimal | show=long}}|globe={{#invoke:WikidataIB|getLabel|{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getGlobe|{{{qid|}}}}}}}}}</nowiki></code>. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC) :::: GeoHack links to Mars coordinates are working now, see {{c|Category:Gale Crater}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC) :::::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} Thank you. However the infobox still has "wikimap", "WikiShootMe" and "OpenStreetMap" links, which should be suppressed for non-terrestrial globes. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:02, 5 August 2022 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Pigsonthewing|Pigsonthewing]]: Now fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. I also suppressed the Locator tool, even though Mars categories might contain a few images taken on Earth. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:28, 6 August 2022 (UTC) :::::::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} Works well. Thank you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 10:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC) === Coordinates for other planets === {{ping|ArthurPSmith}} pointed out at [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/planetary coordinates]] that the coordinates for [[:Category:Olympus Mons]] don't display properly - this need investigation. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:16, 16 October 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|ArthurPSmith|Mike Peel}} Note the above. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 21:57, 30 October 2020 (UTC) :: [[:Category:Olympus Mons]] uses {{P|10628}} instead of {{P|P625}} now so no coordinates are displayed. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Pigsonthewing|ArthurPSmith|LennardHofmann}} This seems to be working fine now, see [[:Category:Olympus Mons]]. This is despite {{P|10628}} being deprecated. So I think this is sorted and can be closed now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Death date before == The death date on [[:Category:Dnyaneshwar Atmaram Turkhud]] is showing as "death: Unknown (before 1944)", whereas it is actually recorded on Wikidata as "unknown value; latest date: January 1944". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC) :More recently, on [[:Category:Kyle Heller]], his DoB of "1980s; earliest date: 1980; latest date: 1981" in Wikidata is shown on Common as "1980s (before 1981, after 1980)". {{Ping|Mike Peel}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 17:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC) === Switch around "before" and "after" for inception dates === Some Wikidata items, like {{Q|Q109928629}} have an inception date with 'earliest date' and 'latest date' qualifiers. Now these are rendered in the reversed order ("before 1502, after 1430"). I think it would make more sense to reverse that order, so: "after 1430, before 1502". See [[:Category:Mictlantecuhtli, Templo Mayor]] for an example. <span class="huskyeye">[[Image:Huskyoog.jpg]]</span> <span style="letter-spacing:1px;">[[User:Husky|Husky]]</span> <sup><small>([[User talk:Husky|talk to me]])</small></sup> 22:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC) :See also [[#Death date before|Death date before]], above. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 13:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC) ---- {{Ping|LennardHofmann}} Are the above issues on your radar? Are you able to devote any of your energies to fixing them, please? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Pigsonthewing|Pigsonthewing]]: The date formatting must be internationalized and is done using [[Module:WikidataIB]] and {{t|Complex date}}, both of which are quite complex. The qualifier "latest date: 1502" could easily be rendered as "{{complex date|by|1502}}", but there is no "1430 or later" notation in {{t|Complex date}} to render "earliest date: 1430" appropriately (pinging [[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] in case he knows more). :If both qualifiers are present, WikidataIB seems to show them in an unpredictable order because it loops over the qualifiers with <code>pairs()</code>. It is possible to render "earliest date: 1980; latest date: 1981" as "{{complex date|between|1980|1981}}", but that would require some effort and the addition of more complexity to WikidataIB. I will add that to the bottom of my todo list. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:56, 6 August 2022 (UTC) ::{{Ping|LennardHofmann|Pigsonthewing}} If {{tl|Wikidata Infobox}} is calling [[Module:WikidataIB]] to call [[Module:Complex date]] that is probably not the best way. [[Module:Wikidata date]] was written to handle Wikidata dates and it is being maintained and used by [[Module:Artwork]] and others. For example <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:Wikidata date|date|item=Q109928629|property=P571|lang=en}}</nowiki></code> gives "{{#invoke:Wikidata date|date|item=Q109928629|property=P571|lang=en}}". That is better way to handle Wikidata dates. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Pigsonthewing|Husky|LennardHofmann|Jarekt}} I'm marking this as not done, sorry. It doesn't seem easy to fix, particularly since {{ping|RexxS}} isn't around. Jarekt, if you want to have a look through the code and propose a version that uses [[Module:Wikidata date]], please feel free to do so. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Display of the language under the audio files == It would be helpful if the language would be displayed under the audio file, especially if there are several audio files in different languages. For an example see [[:Category:Moritz (given name)]]. --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:27, 8 October 2020 (UTC) :Is it a problem to mention the language under the audio file in the infobox? --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:10, 29 October 2020 (UTC) :: {{ping|HarryNº2}} You should only see one audio file, selected based on your language settings - e.g., I don't see any audio file there as I'm browsing in English, and there are only audio files in {{Q|Q188}} and {{Q|Q306626}}. Which language do you have set? {{ping|RexxS}} possibly this is a bug in getValueByLang. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC) :::{{ping|Mike Peel}} The language setting is mainly set to German. Nevertheless, it would be helpful if the language of the audio file were displayed, especially in cases where three audio files such as German, Austrian German and Swiss German are available on Wikidata. --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC) :::: {{ping|HarryNº2}} Just to check, you only see one audio file here, correct? It should be the German version if it's working right, if you're browsing in German. If we added the language of the audio file, it should only display the language that you're browsing in, which I don't think it too useful. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:22, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|Mike Peel}} If I have set German, only the German audio file is also displayed. However, you cannot set Austrian German or Swiss German at all. The same is the case with English, British English, and Canadian English. --[[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:35, 5 December 2020 (UTC) :::::: {{ping|HarryNº2}} Are you sure? I can see those options in the language selector (top of the screen, to the left of your username). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC) :::: :::: {{ec}} {{re|Mike Peel|HarryNº2}} I can see the point of the question. If I browse [[:Category:Moritz (given name)]] with my language set to ''Deutsch'', I get a male voice pronouncing Moritz ([[:File:De-Moritz.ogg]]). If I browse set to ''Österreichisches Deutsch'', I get a female voice ([[:File:De-at Moritz.ogg]]) with a noticeably different accent (Berlin vs Vienna). That's working as intended. If I browse set to ''Schweizer Hochdeutsch'' or ''Alemannisch'', I don't get an audio file. That's because I deliberately didn't implement language fallback in getValueByLang as it was specifically designed to only return the property value (e.g. filename) that has a direct match with the given language. At present, the language of the file you see is always the language you have set, so there should be no need for repeating that under the audio file. :::: Nevertheless, if you want to implement language fallback, then we're going to need another function to achieve that (another editor re-wrote getValueByLang and getValueByQual to use common code, and that prevents a simple implementation of language fallback). If we go down that route, then the German variants without an audio file would see the German version, and it would make sense to add the language code for the file underneath, which would require more coding to perhaps add a hidden comment containing the language code used to the returned filename, which could then be stripped off in the template code and used separately. That seems like a fair bit of work to achieve language fallback and I have to ask how much of a priority it is? --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:04, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|HarryNº2}} Fallback languages are now respected. The language code could be displayed in parentheses after the property label if necessary. Other suggestions where to place the language code are welcome! [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC) {{ping|HarryNº2|LennardHofmann}} This seems to have been resolved now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == YYYY (YYYY-YYYY) == [[:Category:Scribner's Magazine/Volume 47]] is one of several volumes of journal which were published 2/yr for many years. The infobox is displaying only the year, which looks kind of funny. In the example, it is 1910 (1910-1910) where a display of 1910 (July-Dec.) is more accurate and interesting. Thanks for your attention!--[[User:RaboKarbakian|RaboKarbakian]] ([[User talk:RaboKarbakian|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|RaboKarbakian}} Sorry, this won't be done. This is also an issue with complex date, and there's no easy way to resolve this. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == follows and followed by as qualifiers == I have been working with serialized fiction, (novels preesented over several issues and even volumes of a magazine) each new "has part" (P567) would get its own follows (P155) and followed by (P156). Many of our greatest and most well known novels began life this way, and many other lesser known novels.... Infobox displays these P155, 156! This was a happy surprise for me! Maybe they can be migrated to the usual location in the box? Display example at [[:Category:Sleepy Hollow (1839, Irving)]], [[:Category:Vincent Eden (1839, Deacon)]] and now that I look at it, maybe the qualifiers just need to be labeled or not shown at all. If (when is more accurate) the journal is available at any wikisource, it would be also nice if followed by and follows could show that link if the category/gallery is not here. Even without these improvements/differences, Infobox is sure beautiful.--[[User:RaboKarbakian|RaboKarbakian]] ([[User talk:RaboKarbakian|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:27, 27 April 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|RaboKarbakian}} The solution here is to move them into properties rather than qualifiers, then they will display better. Otherwise, this is the best we can do already. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Add "Births in" category? == Hi,<br/> I did not find a similar existing question. Is it possible to add "Births in" category automatically based on {{P|19}} property. Entering the property, the dedicated Commons category can be retrieved using {{P|1464}} then {{P|373}} or declared here as Commons site. I don't know if the path is too complicated to be integrated in this template.<br/> [[User:Jgui|Jgui]] ([[User talk:Jgui|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:50, 1 July 2021 (UTC) : {{ping|Jgui}} If I recall correctly, {{Ping|Harmonia Amanda}} was auto-adding categories like this at one point, not sure if that's still happening. We talked about how to implement it automatically via the infobox, but it wasn't clear - since the granularity on Wikidata may be higher than the existing category structure here. It sounds like a good thing to implement, I'm just not sure how it would work in practice. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:43, 20 August 2021 (UTC) ::I've not done this for a while, but it may be time to do it again if a backlog built up. There are too many granularity problems between Commons and Wikidata right now for it to do it automatically I think, not even speaking of the disambiguation problems (Wikidata has a lot of items sharing labels, but Commons can't do that for categories, and setting up a consistent disambiguation system that could be automated… would be a lot of work. I basically worked from Commons existing categories, run the corresponding SPARQL query for people born there, and then added the category if it was missing using [[toolforge:quickcategories|QuickCategories]]. It should not be hard to replicate. --[[User:Harmonia Amanda|Harmonia Amanda]] ([[User talk:Harmonia Amanda|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:42, 30 August 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|Jgui|}} This is not done per {{Ping|Harmonia Amanda}}. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:27, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:27, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Time problem == Please see the infobox at {{C|Paleozoic}}, where the ages are given in millennia instead of millions of years, therefore a thousand-fold too young. The [[:d:Q75507|WD page]] whence the figures purport to come has millions of years, so I can only guess some sort of wrong conversion or translation is occurring when the infobox is generated. Please fix.—[[User:Odysseus1479|Odysseus1479]] ([[User talk:Odysseus1479|talk]]) 22:45, 6 October 2021 (UTC) The infobox at {{C|Cenozoic}} is also wrong; at {{C|Mesozoic}} the correct starting epoch is shown (albeit weirdly, in millennia) but the ending is wrong like the others mentioned.—[[User:Odysseus1479|Odysseus1479]] ([[User talk:Odysseus1479|talk]]) 08:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|Odysseus1479}} I think you need to raise this at [[Module talk:Complex date]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:27, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:27, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Cultivar template == Can we merge {{tl|cultivar}} (see for example [[:Category:Chrysanthemum 'Dance']]) into this template? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC) : Sorry {{ping|Pigsonthewing}} nice suggestion, but this isn't likely to happen any time soon, particularly since the data used in that template seems to be held locally and would need to be migrated to Wikidata, which would be a big job. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Template:Date navbox == {{tl|Date navbox}} would be another merge candidate. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 18:17, 21 November 2021 (UTC) : Sorry {{ping|Pigsonthewing}} nice suggestion, but this isn't likely to happen any time soon since the data's not on Wikidata. But perhaps the work we've been doing over the last year has moved a bit towards this being possible? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Exact dates not displayed == See [[:Category:Loggia am Stadthaus]]. For the topping out the exact date (which is stated on Wikidata) should be displayed, not only the year. How can this be changed?--[[Special:Contributions/2003:E5:173E:7248:A0FC:C31D:B54E:6DFC|2003:E5:173E:7248:A0FC:C31D:B54E:6DFC]] 18:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC) :In many cases it is not desirable to show exact dates in qualifiers. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:45, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Near someplace == Hi, I see that the template put a place located with [[d:P:P276]] always as in the says place (like for [[:Category:Pete Kitchen Ranch]], even if the building is located in proxiomity of the town, like it's indicated in [[d:Q20714854#P276]]. Can you indicate in brackets the sourcing circumstances ([[d:P:P1480]]) when a location is entered with P276? [[User:Fralambert|Fralambert]] ([[User talk:Fralambert|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:33, 27 March 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Fralambert}} Sorry, the location code is quite complex, and this change is non-trivial. It also seems to be an edge case - it's normally better to simply use {{P|P131}} instead. So, closing as not done. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Omit "hide/show" for authority control in common case == I think the usability and design of the infobox would be improved if the "Authority control" section rendered without being collapsible, for the common case where there is only a few entries, especially when there is only the one default entry for Wikidata itself. Note, I'm not suggesting to remove the section from any situation, rather to remove the collapsible buttons in some cases. I tried doing this myself, but couldn't find the right place to make this change. It seems non-trivial due to the nested use of Wikidata queries. As I understand it, we'll need a way within this structure to get a boolean result, and/or move some of the layout into a Lua module in order to more easily re-use and aggregate the same information multiple times. [[User:Krinkle|Krinkle]] ([[User talk:Krinkle|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:37, 4 May 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Krinkle}} Sorry, but I suspect this would be controversial, so it's best not to do this. The link is quite compact anyway, so it doesn't affect the layout too much. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == {{P|P8554}} not displayed == See the infobox for {{Q|Q112971428}} in [[:Category:Bismarckstraße 22 (Bonn)]]. The exact start time of {{P|P127}} is known, but not the exact end time, so I used {{P|P8554}} instead. I guess the earliest end date should be displayed there as ''after 1926''. Interestingly, for {{P|P466}} the opposite property {{P|P8555}} ''is'' displayed by the infobox but it should rather be displayed as ''before 1932'' and without the comma.--[[Special:Contributions/84.176.239.117|84.176.239.117]] 15:27, 8 July 2022 (UTC) :Sorry, but this needs work at [[Module:Complex date]], not done here. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == somevalue == A standard idiom on Wikidata is to give a statement the value ''somevalue'' with qualifier {{P|1932}} = a text string for the value, if the value of a statement is known but has no wikidata item. For example, [[:d:Q1494059#P193]] for the builder of the Garden Bridge at Inverary. When there is a {{P|1932}} qualifier (cf [[:Category:Garden Bridge, Inveraray]]), it would be therefore good to suppress printing of 'Unknown' in this case, and just give the value of the string. Hoping this may be possible, thanks, [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC) :I am not aware of this convention and think it might be worth further discussion. I can see the potential benefits, but it is not labelled as somevalue but "unknown" value. Saying a value is unknown and then going on to specify the value seems counterintuitive. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 11:34, 15 July 2022 (UTC) ::{{re|MSGJ}} [[:d:Help:Statements#Unknown_or_no_values]] : "Unknown value may also mean the value is actually a known object, but there's currently no Wikidata item about the object." ::In the more technical documentation, eg the spec for wikibase, or the docs for WDQS and the RDF dumps (as [[:mw:Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format#Special_values|here]] or [[:mw:Wikidata_Query_Service/Blank_Node_Skolemization|here]]), the status is referred to as <code>somevalue</code>. ::Here are some examples of where the idiom has been cited in property proposal discussions [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/worn by|1]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/candidate name string|2]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/name of victim|3]]. More could be added. ::And here's a query https://w.wiki/5TF6 to find the most common properties using the mechanism, with examples, based on a 4% sample of {{P|1932}} qualifiers (so actual number of uses for each property will be 25x higher). ::Hope this helps. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC) ::See also eg how the 'creator' field is being handled in the structured data tab of geograph files like [[:File:Plaque_on_the_footbridge_over_the_River_Carron_in_Stonehave,_-_geograph.org.uk_-_2662954.jpg|geograph files like this one]]. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Jheald|MSGJ}} That looks like bad practice on Wikidata to me, the natural thing to do is to create a new item for the person, which then gets rendered properly here. It's not an unknown value if the value is actually known. So this won't be changed here, sorry. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == More properties == * {{P|15}} would be a useful addition to the fallback chain for displaying a map of the item in the infobox * {{P|P3342}} is a useful connecting property -- [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC) * {{P|150}} is missing in the infobox, while analogous {{P|131}} and {{P|527}} are included. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:25, 16 July 2022 (UTC) *:* {{P|P3342}} does seem pretty useful for navigation, even though I might have voted against its creation in favor of more specific properties. *:* I'm not sure about {{P|150}}. Out of all items with this property, 44 % have [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3Fcnt%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%28COUNT%28%2a%29%20AS%20%3Fcnt%29%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP150%20%3Fvalue%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20FILTER%20%28%20%3Fcnt%20%3E%2010%20%29%0A%7D more than 10 values for it], that's pretty excessive. But if people find it useful, I won't object. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Jheald|ŠJů}} {{P|P15}} is already included, {{P|P3342}} and {{P|P150}} seem to be too general to be useful, so they won't be added. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == {{P|527}} with higher number of values doesn't display links? == I noticed a non-standard behavior of {{P|527}}. While at the page [[:Category:Road III/1489 (Czech Republic)]], all 3 values are displayed correctly as links, at the page [[:Category:Road II/473 (Czech Republic)]] all 10 values are displayed as a pure label text, although 3 of them should by displayed as links. This makes it impossible to recognize which of the streets already have their own categories. I believe the previous version of the infobox worked normally. [[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:16, 22 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]]: [[Special:Diff/674590168|Collapsed values are intentionally not linked]] because getCommonsLink can be <em>very</em> slow for certain Wikidata items, but there is no way to know beforehand how slow it will be. If the missing links are really annoying you, we could raise the collapse limit for {{P|527}}, which is currently set to 5. We could also wrap all values inside <syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><span data-qid="Q43567652"></syntaxhighlight> so that people can write user scripts that add links after the page has been loaded. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC) :: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Anyway, now there has been a substantial deterioration of the function of the infobox compared to the previous version. Rather, I would expect some modification so that even an entry without an existing link to the Commons category makes sense – i.e. to include a tooltip with a description and/or a link to the Wikidata item. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:51, 23 July 2022 (UTC) === P2789 - connects with === Today I see that {{P|2789}} in some cases not link to the target commons categories. For example [[:c:Category:Winterbergstraße, Dresden]]. Another street with not so many connections to other streets [[:c:Category:Am Winkelsprung, Dresden]] work very well. Is the number of connections a problem? Is there a new limit. I think some months before it work at any of the 3000 streets in Dresden. Can we fix this? It is extremely helpful for the navigation in the commons categories. --[[User:Stefan Kühn|sk]] ([[User talk:Stefan Kühn|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:37, 3 August 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Stefan Kühn}} See above. Since you are the second person requesting this, I added exceptions for {{P|2789}} and {{P|527}} so that values for these properties are always linked (if they have a Commons category). This change was just made live together with the rewrite of authority control and helper links. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:30, 3 August 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]]: Many thanks! --[[User:Stefan Kühn|sk]] ([[User talk:Stefan Kühn|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:07, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Maps for roads and other extended features == <mapframe text="When Kartographer is working again, this map should show a motorway in England in addition to the one in Germany." width="300" height="300"> { "type": "ExternalData", "service": "geoline", "ids": "Q19875,Q9006" } </mapframe> The infobox on en-wiki for [[:en:Bundesautobahn 1]] appears to contain the route of the road, drawn from OSM data via [[:en:Template:Maplink]]. Could [[:Category:Bundesautobahn_1]] show this too? (Though it actually seems to be incomplete, compared to [[:d:Q9006#P15]]). But it would be good to be able to draw on more extended OSM shapes, eg for rivers too. In the meantime, as suggested above, {{P|15}} could be a useful addition. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Jheald|Jheald]]: {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} now shows roads (and other geolines) on the map. On Wikipedia you have to opt-in into geolines with <code><nowiki>{{maplink|type=line}}</nowiki></code> but the Wikidata Infobox should work without user input, so I made it use geolines instead of geoshapes (polygons) if the Wikidata item has one of the following properties: {{P|2043}}, {{P|16}}, {{P|974}}, {{P|4552}}, {{P|177}}, {{P|1064}}, {{P|15}}, {{P|14}}, {{P|930}}, {{P|3858}}. :As for {{P|15}} … this has already been added, see [[:Category:Bundesautobahn_1]] ;) --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:25, 26 July 2022 (UTC) ::<small>Archived, but restored. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)</small> ::{{re|LennardHofmann}} Pulling this back from the archive. Thanks for adding {{P|15}} support -- I will now be sure to check the radio buttons more closely in future! Thanks!! ::On linear features in the main maps though, I'm not seeing it. Consider eg [[:Category:M1 motorway (England)]]. The infobox includes a link to OSM, which shows the motorway as an extended feature [https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1559914]. But the Commons infobox just shows a point location. Is there something I have missed? Thanks, [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Jheald|Jheald]]: This is a bug in Kartographer. I was about to write a bug report, but then [[:Category:Bundesautobahn 1]] started working again. Let's hope that [[:Category:M1 motorway (England)]] will also start showing the geoline soon. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC) ::::{{re|LennardHofmann}} Very pleasing. That's really good now. Thank you so much. ::::Though I don't suppose there would be any chance of making rivers and other types of {{Q|355304}} come up in blue, would there? eg [[:c:Category:River Tay]]. That would be amazing. Thank you again so much for all that you are doing, [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == end time / end cause / replaced by / replaces == Normally the solution of taking a qualifier value and just adding it in brackets, irrespective of the context, works really well. But I wonder if more special treatment may be useful where we have eg {{P|582}}, {{P|1534}}, and {{P|1366}} all together, as at eg [[:c:Category:Sheilhill Old Bridge]], where :''carries: unclassified road (Shielhill Bridge, bypassing, –1973)'' is a bit opaque to unpack. It would (necessarily) still be very terse, but I wonder whether usefully we might be able to make it a bit more intuitive by looking out these particular qualifiers (which can turn up in other circumstances too, as well as just infrastructure), and when they are present to perhaps re-order the output to something like :''carries: unclassified road (–1973; bypassing; → Shielhill Bridge)'' with the extra → to give a hint that the final item has the context of a replacement. It might also be nice to be able to give some similar context hint for a value that an item {{P|1365}}; but I can't immediately see a shorthand for that; unless perhaps ↖ might do, presumably then paired with ↗ (directions might need to be reversed for RTL scripts). Do people think that might be useful for these particular qualifiers? [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:03, 12 August 2022 (UTC) :Another qualifier that might benefit from being moved to after {{P|582}} could be {{P|1326}}, if both are present - eg [[:c:Category:Oban Times Building]] in the line for Occupant = Oban Times. Thx! [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC) :For what it's worth, here https://w.wiki/5ZyT are the qualifiers that most commonly co-occur with {{P|582}}. Nothing else particularly jumps out to me as needing special care. :Curious though that [[:c:Category:Sheilhill Old Bridge]] does show values of {{P|1534}} and {{P|1366}} qualifiers, whereas seeming they are suppressed for people, such as in the 'postion held' line on [[:c:Category:Andrea_Dandolo]]. But I guess all the different qualifiers on some of those {{P|39}} statements can get pretty baroque, so I can see why suppressing them may make sense. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC) ::Another case that could benefit from review could be {{P|582}} = ''somevalue'' with qualifiers {{P|P8554}} and/or {{P|1326}}. This can all turn into a bit of a jumble at the moment. (Related but slightly different to the use of ''somevalue'' discussed at [[#somevalue]] above, though the cases should maybe be taken together). ::Similarly {{P|580}} = ''somevalue'' with qualifiers {{P|1319}} and/or {{P|P8555}}, as in the dates given at [[:Category:St Mary's House, Bramber]] for when it started being a "house museum". [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:07, 20 August 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Jheald}} Thanks for the suggestions, but sorry, they are too complex to easily implement. Also see the above discussions about complex date. So I'm closing this as not done, sorry. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == P1382 vs. P527 == {{ping|LennardHofmann}} {{P|1382}} and {{P|527}} are similar and analogous properties, but have different behaviour in the infobox. * {{P|1382}} displays up to 10 items unwrapped and with links (if exist), more than 10 (up to 20?) items wrapped and without links. * {{P|527}} displays up to 5 items unwrapped, 6–20 items wrapped, but allways with links (if exist) IMHO the behaviour should be unified, {{P|1382}} should have identical behavior as the {{P|527}}. Btw., items without Commons category links should display Wikidata item links or at least description tooltip because the pure label is often very unspecific. This applies to all properties which have items as their values. I imagine it as an inconspicuous tooltip and link, perhaps in this form: * Ústecká [[File:Wikidata-ico-48px.png|14px|link=d:Q45979350|street in Krupka]] * Teplická [[File:Wikidata-ico-48px.png|14px|link=d:Q44797535|street in Jílové]] * [[:Category:Pivovarská (Děčín)|Pivovarská]] [[File:Wikidata-ico-48px.png|14px|link=d:Q43430347|street in Děčín]] See [[:Category:Road I/13 (Czech Republic)]] as an example of an item with more {{P|1382}} and {{P|527}} item values. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC) :I unified the behavior of {{P|1382}} and {{P|527}}. What do others think about the second wish? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Language dependent circa handling == It was reported on the local Czech village pump, that the handling of circa with dates is different depending on (UI) language set. While with English circa is displayed as "c." with tooltip before date value, with Czech (čeština) it is displayed as cca before date value (correct), but also at the same time after the date value in brackets (unnecessary duplication). The same way it looks with Polish or Slovak language set. [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]]: Do you have an example page where this happens? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC) ::For example [[:Category:Janet Young]]. [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:41, 26 August 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]]: The bracketed "circa" link is removed in a hacky way, see [[Special:Diff/685133506]]. WikidataIB's date formatting really needs to be rewritten (see all the date issues reported on this talk page), but the thought of doing that doesn't excite me and WikidataIB's original author isn't active here anymore. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC) Not done, this would have needed {{ping|RexxS}}. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == family name has to use a different item than disambiguation page == It's nice that the Infobox now links to a Wikimedia disambiguation page, but [[Wikidata:Q27924673]] linking is superfluous, see e.g. [[:Category:Smith (surname)]]. [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :Unfortunately, WikidataIB only provides means to toggle linking as a whole, so unlinking "([[d:Q27924673|family name has to use a different item than disambiguation page]])" is not possible, but I could hide it if you want. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC) ::Maybe the values for {{P|P1889}} shouldn't be formatted using WikidataIB. Then I could replace "family name has to use a different item than disambiguation page" with the shorter label "{{label|Q4167410|link=-}}" from [[d:Q4167410|Q4167410]] or the icon [[File:Disambig.svg|24px]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :::The text version of {{Q|Q4167410}} would be better than a SVG version, because not everyone can do something with a picture. [[User:HarryNº2|HarryNº2]] ([[User talk:HarryNº2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:54, 27 August 2022 (UTC) ::::{{tq|“not everyone can do something with a picture“}}: That's what {{w|alt text}} is for. You can see how it looks by replacing <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox}}</nowiki></code> with <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}</nowiki></code>. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:23, 27 August 2022 (UTC) :::::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} Alt text is really tricky, see [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/alt text]] and links therein. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Autocat no longer working properly == It seems that when the infobox adds items to [[:Category:National Register of Historic Places with known IDs]] (and possibly the similar autocats), it's no longer adding the ID as a sortkey. This is causing scripts that check for the ID to miss those categories; [[w:User:TheCatalyst31/AddCommonsCatLinks.js]] hasn't been catching new categories with IDs on Wikidata for a bit now. [[User:TheCatalyst31|TheCatalyst31]] ([[User talk:TheCatalyst31|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:02, 10 September 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:TheCatalyst31|TheCatalyst31]]: The infobox is still adding the sortkey, e.g. on [[:Category:Husung Hardware]] it produces following wikitext: <code><nowiki>[[Category:National Register of Historic Places with known IDs|00000003]]</nowiki></code>. However, it no longer adds a space in front of the sortkey like {{tl|NRHP}} does. This is because the infobox now treats all "with known IDs" categories equal, see [[Module:Wikidata Infobox]] and search for "autocats_by_id". Could this be the problem? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|TheCatalyst31|LennardHofmann}} removal of the space breaks it. Every once in a while someone, who isn't aware of how the sorting logic works, breaks this. [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3AWikidata_Infobox&type=revision&diff=687926039&oldid=686184202 this] should fix it. ::The missing {{tlx|Image template notice|Wikidata Infobox}} template should be added to the other categories like [[:Category:National Register of Historic Places with known IDs]] to make clear what template is adding it. ::The list at [[Module:Wikidata_Infobox#L-798]] seems to be incomplete if I compare it to [[User:ErfgoedBot/Depicts monuments.js]] (and that one is sure not complete) so more can be added. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|talk]]) 09:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Multichill|LennardHofmann}} Can you sync the changes over to the sandbox, please, otherwise we'll lose them in the next update? (Also, better to do changes like these is the sandbox so they can be batch-deployed...) Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:45, 11 September 2022 (UTC) ::::If we add the categories from [[User:ErfgoedBot/Depicts monuments.js]] as {{u|Multichill}} suggested, should pages with {{P|P4244}} still be categorized under {{c|Uses of Wikidata Infobox providing Bavaria ids}}, or should we embrace {{c|Cultural heritage monuments in Bavaria with known IDs}}? --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:51, 11 September 2022 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Multichill}} It looks like the script is working again. Good catch! [[User:TheCatalyst31|TheCatalyst31]] ([[User talk:TheCatalyst31|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == require('strict') == {{tl|edit protected}} As per the new lua feature mentioned at [[m:Tech/News/2022/42]], could <code>require('Module:No globals')</code> be replaced with <code>require('strict')</code> in [[Module:Wikidata Infobox]] -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:21, 25 October 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|WOSlinker}} Since this template is used in many categories, changes are normally batched to reduce server load. I'll look into deploying this soon along with other changes. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:50, 25 October 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|WOSlinker}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Edit request for Template:Wikidata Infobox/core – misplaced table tag == {{tl|edit request}} {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/core}} has a closing table tag in the wrong location. It is inside the second if statement, but it was opened in the first if statement. I have moved it in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/core/sandbox}}. Please copy the sandbox to the live template, or replicate the move of the table closing tag two characters to the right. Thanks. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Jonesey95}} [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWikidata_Infobox%2Fcore%2Fsandbox&type=revision&diff=700049393&oldid=688103579 Looking at the diff], I can't see the change? It just seems to be a new line inside a comment that has been removed. Please could you double-check this? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ComparePages?page1=Template%3AWikidata+Infobox%2Fcore&rev1=&page2=Template%3AWikidata+Infobox%2Fcore%2Fsandbox&rev2=&action=&unhide= This is the diff to look at]. Ignore the /sandbox at the top. Note the swap of braces and the closing table tag. That is the fix. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Jonesey95}} Thanks, this is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Collapsing of the Author field appears broken at Category:Media from Lavesque et al. 2021 - 10.5852/ejt.2021.782.1593 == The collapsing of the Author field appears broken at {{cl|Media from Lavesque et al. 2021 - 10.5852/ejt.2021.782.1593}}. In the Author field, I see [Show], followed by all but the first author. When I click [Show], the first author appears. What should happen, I believe, is that all of the authors should be hidden, and when I click [Show], they should all appear. There are also between three and five Linter errors that appear to be caused by this section, so the rendering error seems likely to be related to a syntax error of some kind. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC) :Thanks for reporting. This will be fixed with [[Special:Diff/699899100]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks. I tested the sandbox version of the template on that page, and there are no rendering or Linter errors. The collapsing is gone, which appears to be intentional. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Jonesey95|LennardHofmann}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)}} == Geogroup == Where the category is about places, or things in places, can we find a sensible way to embed {{tl|Geogroup}} at the foot of the infobox? Or can we have a manual switch, such as <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox|geo=y}}</nowiki></code>, which bots could then set for relevant sets of catgories? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 22:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|Pigsonthewing}} Rather than including the template, the links are included under the map and coordinates within the infobox. The bing link in geogroup doesn't work (I've just been testing adding it to the infobox, but no luck). OSM is there in the current version, but might be upgraded per the discussion just above, testing code is in the sandbox. Would the KML link be useful or add clutter? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} I think we're at cross purposes; please take a look at [[:Category:Public art in Birmingham]]. The map links in {{tl|Geogroup}} do not appear in the infobox, which has no map and no coordinates. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 17:36, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ::: {{ping|Pigsonthewing}} OK, I get it. The OSM link was only being displayed if there was a coordinate. I've changed it so that the link is now displayed at the bottom, regardless of whether there is a coordinate, so that should work in your case. Could you try {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} please? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ::::Yes, that works, but it needs more explanation, since the link is not to "OpenStreetMap" (Geogroup uses "Map of all coordinates on OSM", but could be shortened to, say, "coordinates (OSM)"). And we do need a KML download option. If the Bing link is not working, then of course drop it, but please bear in mind it might be fixed, and other services my become available. Also, it adds the OSM link to pages like [[:Category:SuperTinyIcons]] where there is no Geographic metadata, and never will be. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 20:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|Pigsonthewing}} The label has to be multilingual. Using the label of {{Q|Q936}} does that automatically, anything beyond that becomes a lot more complicated. I can add the KML link easily, but I need to be able to point to a reason why it's needed if someone objects to its inclusion. Bing can similarly be linked to easily if it starts working. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC) : BTW, {{ping|Hjart}} we talked about this a bit via a mini edit war / discussion on my talk page back at the start of November, can you check the sandbox version and see what you think? Also, if you have any comments about the Bing and KML links, please share them. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC) === Map of coordinate locations === I wonder if this might be a useful query to add as a link from categories (or, at least, from geographical categories): [[Commons:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples#Camera_location_of_files_in_a_category]] ? [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC) :Or would relevant categories already use template {{tl|geogroup}} ? ([[:Category:River Ravensbourne]] does, which may make for an interesting comparison; but most categories probably don't). [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC) === Geogroup (2) === Hi. Don't forget to include something like {{tl|Geogroup}} into the infobox. Thank You. [[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:20, 15 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] Was tried. The Geogroup template is just plain better. [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC) :: There are some of the same links at the bottom of the infobox at the moment, the others could be added at some point. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC) ::: {{Re|Mike Peel}} There are some links in the infobox to display specifically files from the current category? I thought that all the map links in the current infobox display all geocoded images from the nearby area, not selectively those contained in the current category. {{tl|Geogroup}} is important for maintenance - for sorting files into subcategories of a given category as well as for detecting miscategorized images or images with incorrect coordinates. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC) ::::{{ping|ŠJů}} Have a look at the 'OpenStreetMap' and 'Locator tool' links in the infobox - they use category contents. There were others but the tools stopped working, so they were commented out. All Geogroup does is to link to external tools, it doesn't do anything on the Commons side, so it should be easy enough to finish incorporating the other links (perhaps it's actually just the KML link that's missing?). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC) ::::: {{Re|Mike Peel}} As my comments indicate, the problem is that the links are not described and explained sufficiently to distinguish what they display in the map: whether images from the current category, or all geocoded images in the coordinate area of that category. Both functions are needed. One for checking the content of the category, the other e.g. for searching for images that should belong to the category, but are not yet in it, and also for overview of related nearby items, articles, categories, duplicate detection etc. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC) :::::: {{ping|ŠJů}} That's for the tools to describe. I think I copy-pasted those links from the Geogroup template anyway, so they should have the same functionality as there. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) ::::::: {{ping|Mike Peel}} Both similar templates or boxes ({{tl|Location}}, {{tl|Geogroup}}) contain some simple description what the links do and what the linked map displays. Wikidata Infobox contains a set of 7 links and is not easy to discover what which of them does. The label "OpenStreetMap" itself says nothing about what images are in the OSM displayed. If it displays images from the category (like the {{tl|Geogroup}} OSM link), than there is missing a tool displaying all images from the location in the OSM (like the OSM link from the {{tl|Location}} template). Both variants are needed. The 'Locator tool' link is not very intuitive: when i click to [https://locator-tool.toolforge.org/#/geolocate?category=Hostiva%C5%99 this link] in the category of Prague district [[:Category:Hostivař]], it displays to me a map of the center of the City of London – that's unusable now. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC) :::::::: {{ping|ŠJů}} Thanks for all the background. I suggest we park this for now, while the Lua rewrite goes live, and then we revisit this once we're working on Lua-ising the links part of the infobox. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:16, 16 July 2022 (UTC) {{Outdent|::::::::}} {{ping|ŠJů}} Is the WikiMiniAtlas map you get by clicking the [[File:WMA button2b.png|20px]] icon in front of the coordinates sufficient for you or do you need the OSM link from {{t|Location}}? Compare e.g. the WikiMiniAtlas map on [[:Category:Westfälische Hochschule]] with [https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?lat=51.5744&lon=7.02806&zoom=15 this OSM link]. More descriptive labels for helperlinks would be nice but would also require translation. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC) : {{ping|LennardHofmann}} The [[File:WMA button2b.png|20px]] icon has a tooltip "Show location on an interactive map" - that doesn't indicate that this link is intended to display photos from the current category (as GeoGroup does), and the linked map clearly does not have this purpose and content. To show the location, there are several maps, but I ask to show specifically geocoded images from the current category in the map. These are completely different map contents: either I want to display all images, articles or Wikidata items related to the coordinates assigned to the category, or on the contrary I want to display on the map the locations of the images that are included in the current category. This can help to detect miscategorized photos; to sort photos from the category into its subcategories; or simply to search for photos by location, if the category does not have its localizing subcategory for the demanded location. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]]: The "OpenStreetMap" helperlink (will be renamed to "WikiMap") shows images from the category on a map, e.g. [https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?cat=Berlin&subcats=true&subcatdepth=1&cluster=true this map] shows 310 files from Berlin and a few (probably miscategorized) files from other cities. The WikiMiniAtlas shows files related to a coordinate, see https://wma.wmflabs.org, but WikiMap can also be used for this purpose if you remove the <code>?cat=</code> parameter from the URL. Doesn't this cover both of your use cases? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:33, 2 August 2022 (UTC) ::: {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Yes, they probably cover both use cases (btw., the "miscategorized" files of category Berlin apparently have some relation to Berlin). Now it is necessary to choose an appropriate arrangement and concise descriptions of the links so that each user can clearly see which link is for what. And maybe also tools to set subcategory depth? --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC) === KML export === The [[w:Keyhole Markup Language|KML]] export functionality of {{t|Geogroup}} has been added as a helper link to the bottom of {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Pigsonthewing|Hjart|Jheald|ŠJů|LennardHofmann}} I think this has been resolved now. Uses of {{tl|Geogroup}} on pages using the infobox should probably be removed to avoid duplication. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC) : {{ping|Mike Peel}} Shouldn't be given as a permanent task for bots to avoid+remove a duplication of {{tl|Wikidata Infobox}} with {{tl|Geogroup}}? --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|ŠJů}} I could code pi bot to do that if it would be useful. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::: I've modified Pi bot so that when it adds an infobox, it will remove geogroup. I'll leave it at that for now and see how it goes. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Is there anywhere I can test this? [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Hjart}} Pick your favourite category and compare links between the two? It's live everywhere in the infobox. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Ok. I just haven't been looking at all those links for quite some time. Also I always preferred having the geogroup links at the top. I was a very active OpenStreetmapper for many years. In some cases I would like to be able to go directly to osm.org to edit the object (create a new house or add a wikidata=*). Currently this unfortunately only works if the osm object has the appropriate wikidata tag. [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Hjart}} So the solution is to add tags on OSM? ;-) Not sure that more can be done here. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] I would really like to be able to have a link in the infoboks that would open the area directly without going through the Overpass API. Wikidata has the coords, so it really shouldn't be that hard. I often copy coords directly from the osm address line to insert into P625 btw. [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::::::{{ping|Hjart}} Can you give an example of what you're thinking of? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] [[:Category:Ringridermuseet]]. In OSM it's [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Ringridermuseet#map=19/54.91095/9.78783 this building]. Modifying the end of the osm adressline should be fairly simple. I added the coords of {{Q|27955511}} by simply copying from the OSM adressline (just needed to replace the "/" with a ","). [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:40, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::::::::{{ping|Hjart}} OK, but that can be done on Wikidata? There's no obvious URL or change to make to the infobox? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:45, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::::::::What I want in the infobox in this particular case is a link that just says https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/54.91096/9.78783. [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::::::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Please note that finding the building (or whatever the wikidata item is supposed to represent) can be quite tricky if it's not already in OSM and there's no fairly unique place names in the vicinity. The Overpass API trick is nice if P625 is inaccurate or there's a need to highlight the object or zoom to a large area. Otherwise it's useless. [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC) ::::::::::{{ping|Hjart}} If you click on the coordinates, you get to [https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Category:Ringridermuseet&params=54.9109341_N_9.787767_E_globe:Earth_&language=en Geohack], which links to [https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=54.910934&mlon=9.787767&zoom=11#map=19/54.91093/9.78784 OSM] - albeit with a wider zoom. You also get the choice of other maps at that page too. Is that not sufficient? Adding another link would feel like duplication. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC) :::::::::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Clicking the "OpenStreetMap" link gives me the error message "No results found." Would it be possible for the infoboks to detect this and switch to the simpler direct link? [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:08, 1 November 2022 (UTC) ::::::::::::{{ping|Hjart}} No, it would have to access the API for that, and the infobox can't do that. Can you try what I said just above about clicking on the coordinate instead? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC) :::::::::::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] I tried it. I'ts more cumbersome than what I would have liked, but if I can't have anything better it'll do. [[User:Hjart|Hjart]] ([[User talk:Hjart|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC) :::::::::::::: OK, let's stay with that. It's the same amount of cumbersome to get to any of the maps. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC) : {{ping|Mike Peel}} I'm not seeing the OSM link on [[:Category:Public art in Birmingham]]. But yes (once fixed), redundant {{tl|Geogroup}} should be removed by bot. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 20:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Pigsonthewing}} There's no coordinate there, so there's no OSM to be shown? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::No, it;s the link that's been renamed "WikiMap. All good <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 20:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)}} == Strange text instead of "Date of Death" in English version == [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Muhammad_Ali?uselang=en For English] "21 October 2022" instead of "Date of Death" is shown. Everything is fine eg. in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Muhammad_Ali?uselang=de de] or [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Muhammad_Ali?uselang=fr fr] versions. -- [[Special:Contributions/94.42.46.224|94.42.46.224]] 01:15, 5 November 2022 (UTC) : It was vandalism at [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property%3AP570&type=revision&diff=1764443632&oldid=1745139182] - now reverted. If you still see it, purge the cache (add ?action=purge onto the end of the URL) and it should go away. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)}} == [[d:Property:P669|located on street (P669)]] missing == Somehow the property seems to be missing from the infobox when {{Property|P6375}} is present. I don't think this is desirable as *many streets have categories and links to these could be displayed. *Also, the content between the two can differ. The text property should include the city and ZIP codes. Samples: *[[:Category:Mozarts_Geburtshaus]] currently links [[:Category:Getreidegasse (Salzburg)]] based on [[d:Q3327039#P669]] *[[:Category:Getreidegasse 7, Salzburg]], the building next to it, doesn't despite [[d:Q37970872#P669]]. This as there is also [[d:Q37970872#P6375]]. Same for all other buildings in that street. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 13:20, 30 December 2021 (UTC) :{{ping|Jura1}} If I remember right, this was a deliberate coding choice - when we have {{P|P6375}}, then that supersedes {{P|P669}} and {{P|P969}} (although that latter needs to be removed from the code now). What behaviour would you lik eto see - if we have values for both properties, what should we display? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:21, 30 December 2021 (UTC) ::Personally, I'd display both. Maybe first P669, then the string of P6375. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 22:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC) :Interestingly, addresses are searchable on Commons, but not anymore on Wikidata (see [[d:Property_talk:P6375#value_is_not_indexed_for_string_search]]). --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura1 (talk)]] 20:44, 13 March 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} What do you think about this? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: I don't have a strong opinion about this. See [[:Category:Getreidegasse 7, Salzburg]] how it looks if {{P|P6375}} and {{P|P669}} are both shown. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC) :::: Thanks Lennard. {{ping|Jura1}} does this solve your request? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:49, 1 November 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Jura1}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)}} == Lua rewrite == I am currently rewriting this infobox as part of Google Summer of Code 2022. You can read about my progress [[User:LennardHofmann/GSoC 2022/Report 1|'''here''']]. I promise it's an interesting read if you are into technical things. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:02, 6 June 2022 (UTC) * The [[User:LennardHofmann/GSoC 2022/Report 2|second report]] is out! [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:37, 2 July 2022 (UTC) * The [[User:LennardHofmann/GSoC 2022/Report 3|third report]] discusses the performance of getEntity, getBestStatements, and getCommonsLink. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC) * The [[User:LennardHofmann/GSoC 2022/Report 4|fourth report]] includes a little challenge for you. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:33, 15 August 2022 (UTC) === Try out the new Lua infobox === The main part of this infobox has now been fully rewritten in Lua. The other parts (Authority control and autocat) will be rewritten over the course of the next weeks. You can preview the new infobox on any Commons page by adding <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}</nowiki></code> to it. Please tell us whether everything looks fine to you. The new infobox will go live on July 20. While the main goal behind the rewrite was to improve the performance of the infobox, I also fixed some long-standing bugs and made other tweaks: {{Collapse|title=Changelog|1= * Image captions always refer to the correct image now – reported by {{u|Jan.Kamenicek}} and {{u|El Grafo}} in [[#misplaced captions]] * Removed second image row: Logo and flag images are no longer treated separately and can be selected with the radio buttons – This was requested by {{U|Mike Peel}} and heavily simplifies the code * Added {{P|275}}, {{P|P834}}, and {{P|P1382}} – requested by {{u|Christian Ferrer}}, {{u|Thierry Caro}}, and {{U|ŠJů}}, respectively * Fixed bug that prevented {{P|P405}} and {{P|P574}} from showing up. * Added many image properties. See full list at [[Template:Wikidata_Infobox/doc/properties]]. * Moved {{P|7457}} from the bottom of the infobox to the top where all other images are. Infoboxes about humans still have {{P|P109}} at the end. * Removed {{P|P1429}}. * By default, table rows get collapsed if they have more than ten values. * [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with subinfoboxes|Subinfoboxes]] are not shown for instances of {{Q|Q3186692}} and {{Q|Q39911}}. See [[:Category:1700 in Pennsylvania]]. * Audio files respect language fallbacks * Collapse {{P|P185}} if there are more than four values – requested by {{U|William Graham}} in [[#Doctoral student]] * Collapsed values are not linked. This drastically speedups the infobox on [[:Category:Matches of the 2014 FIFA World Cup]]. * Use default collapse messages – requested by {{U|Amire80}} in [[#Collapsible-collapse vs Hide]] * Only linked values are shown for {{P|P1889}} – This solves [[#Disambigs in 'different from']] in a different way than proposed by {{u|Wostr}} * Adjust map zoom level so that the geoshape (gray region) fits inside it if the Wikidata item has {{P|402}}. Otherwise zoom level is calculated from area, respecting the four most common units as requested in [[#Zoom level, area]] by {{u|Strakhov}}. * Statements with {{P|P582}} qualifier are ignored for {{P|P856}} and when going up the location hierarchy – This fixes [[#Update needed for showing currently valid P131 values]] reported by {{u|Arjunaraoc}} * Support for more datatypes in [[Module:WikidataIB/sandbox]] – This fixes [[#qualifier with datatype "wikibase-form"]] reported by {{u|Minerva97}}. ** For all changes to WikidataIB, see [[Special:PageHistory/Module:WikidataIB/sandbox|its history]] * Pages with an infobox that takes longer than 4 seconds to load are categorized under {{c|Uses of Wikidata Infobox with bad performance}}. * Some bugs fixed themselves: ** [[#Error displaying images with filenames beginning with an asterisk]] ** [[#Bad handling of only deprecated official website]]}} If you have other suggestions to make the infobox better, please let us know! [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC) :{{Ping|LennardHofmann}} OK. No problem for me. [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]], I tested the sandbox version on [[:Category:Bapatla|Category:Bapatla]] and found that the P131 hierarchy is displaying valid values. Thanks. [[User:Arjunaraoc|Arjunaraoc]] ([[User talk:Arjunaraoc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC) === The new infobox is live! === The changes to WikidataIB and this infobox I mentioned above are now live. You no longer need to append <code>/sandbox</code> to try out the new infobox. Please tell us if you notice any problems. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:23, 20 July 2022 (UTC) : Hello {{Ping|LennardHofmann|Mike Peel}} the category [[:Category:House-shaped shrines]] currently returns: ''Lua error in Module:Wikidata_Infobox at line 928: attempt to index upvalue 'CLAIMS' (a nil value).''. --[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:57, 20 July 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]]: Add some claims to {{Q|Q107632347}} to fix it. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC) :::{{reply to|LennardHofmann}} Since this template is mass-added to categories that have a Wikidata connection, regardless of whether it actually contains any data, the Lua code should respect this and not error out if there’s nothing to show. Either show an empty box or absolutely nothing, but not an error message. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]]: I added a friendlier error message that [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Template:Wikidata_Infobox/i18n&action=translate can be translated], see {{c|Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no claims}}. Encouraging users to add some basic claims to the Wikidata item (which usually only takes a minute) is better than hiding the error. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC) :::::{{reply to|LennardHofmann}} I agree that showing a user-friendly error message is even better, the main point was that there should definitely not be a script error, not that it should be empty. However, there’s still one regression compared to the wikitext-based version: the infobox title gets hidden for some reason. There may be labels in different languages even if there aren’t any statements, so please add it back. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC) :::::And also please use $1 instead of %s as a placeholder: in the translation system, $1, $2 etc. are the standard placeholders, this is what translators are used to and what’s provided by the translation interface as a so-called “insertable” (little gray button at the bottom left of the input box). —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:38, 24 July 2022 (UTC) ::::::{{ping|Mike Peel}} The issue about the placeholder is not yet resolved. It’s pretty easy – instead of <code>string.format</code>, use <code>mw.message.newRawMessage</code> (or <code>string.gsub</code> if performance is a concern) –, but it’s not easily testable, as changing [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/i18n]] affects both the sandbox and the live version. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:31, 1 November 2022 (UTC) :::::::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} Maybe this is easy to change? It is good to use the standard approach, for consistency. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC) ::::::::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: It's an easy change, but it requires changing the module and the translation pages in conjunction. When do you plan to make the sandbox changes live? [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC) :::::::::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} Whenever you'd be ready with the change, there are several other changes queued up, so we're about due for an update. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:39, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Tacsipacsi}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)}} == Placement: At the top of the page == The placement for the template: ''At the top of the page'' is really a bad instruction. This way, all important categories move to a place not more really visiv´ble on the first view, and totally unintersting, user unfriendly categories will be listed first. Examples: [[:Category:Maarten van Heemskerck]] - really uninteresting (and partially red) categories are listed first - Category:Van Heemskerk (surname); Maarten (given name); Maerten (given name); or [[:Category:Hendrick Goltzius]]; Hendrik (given name), Hendrick (given name) are the best categories to be listed first? This is really the information a user should read first? The box on top is good, but never the placement of the template. [[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]] ([[User talk:Florentyna|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]]. Just to confirm you mean the parent categories which are in the footer of the page are in the wrong order? -- [[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:46, 29 October 2022 (UTC) ::Yes, correct [[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]] ([[User talk:Florentyna|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC) :* Page (wikitext) or page (rendered) ? :: The Infobox should appear at the top of the rendered page, before any other text. This is so that the CSS float box can work to its best. :: In the wikitext, important categories should come first. We can place category markup before the Infobox, but the problem there is that this inevitably attracts whitespace and renders as spurious blank lines at the top of the page. :: So the best solution I can come up with for this (I've had the same problem on commercial wikis for years) is to generate the important categories inside the Infobox. Which in this case will involve pulling from wikidata. Otherwise it's best to just live with the poor category ordering. :: If you control the MediaWiki code, it's also possible to generate categories in reverse order from the wikitext. This is a much easier fix for pages, but not deployable here. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:31, 29 October 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Florentyna}} I understand the problem, and sympathize with it, but I can't see a good alternative solution right now. Often the categories include other wikitext/templates, and the infobox should be included above them to display correctly. The infobox also systematically adds categories that wouldn't otherwise have been added, which is important. However, other categories are definitely more relevant, and it would be good if they were displayed first - but there's no way to tell MediaWiki about category ordering apart from the wikitext. If you can suggest a way of improving this, I'll listen to it, but I'm not sure there's much more that can be done right now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:36, 29 October 2022 (UTC) The solution is not so difficult, that's way the topic is called ''Placement: At the top of the page''. One can simply move the template to the bottom of the page, and everything looks fine. Categories are well sorted, infobox remains at the beginning of the page. This means also, that the advice ''Placement: At the top of the page'' must be changed. --[[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]] ([[User talk:Florentyna|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]]: That doesn't work, because a multitude of other potential templates and descriptions are also placed at the top of category pages. If the infobox is placed at the bottom, this creates significant display and functional issues. I'm sorry, but this is a non-starter. As mentioned, the only real existing solution is to put the categories above everything else, which contravenes all common and recommended practices across all wiki projects, and becomes a proposal well outside of this template. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 22:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC) Can you provide an example of the display and functional issues, I never recognized such a behavior. Thanks in advance, best regards --[[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]] ([[User talk:Florentyna|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC) : If you have other templates or text at the top of the category, then the infobox display would be moved down, creating whitespace in the top-right and generally not working optimally. The convention everywhere on-wiki is to have categories at the bottom, I suggest taking the issue to [[Commons:Village pump]] to see what a wider audience thinks. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:43, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:43, 8 November 2022 (UTC)}} == Wikidata infobox may be causing Linter errors by unnecessarily including language translations that are not displayed == This is just a hypothesis, so please take it with a grain of salt. On the page {{cl|Culture by language}}, {{tl|Wikidata infobox}} is used, and the page shows a "Missing end tag" error, indicating that there is a <code><nowiki>''</nowiki></code> that is opened but not closed. When I look at the Wikidata entry for the page, the only instance of <code><nowiki>''</nowiki></code> that I see is in the <code>nap</code> category name: <code><nowiki>Categurìa:Cultura a ssicond''a lengua</nowiki></code>. That category name is not displayed on the page, as far as I can tell, but it appears to be parsed or rendered in some hidden way that causes <code><nowiki>''</nowiki></code> to be in the rendered wikicode of the category page. This also appears to happen when there is an unclosed <code><nowiki>''</nowiki></code> in one of the "In more languages" section of the wikidata page that corresponds to a page using this infobox. Is there a way to suppress the importing of this extraneous information so that it does not cause these errors? It may also be the case that <code><nowiki>ssicond''a</nowiki></code> is not valid Napolitano language, but [https://nap.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categur%C3%ACa:Cultura_a_ssicond%27%27a_lengua the category exists] at nap.WP, and [https://nap.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Porta_d%27%27a_cummunet%C3%A0 the construction appears to be common there]. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:41, 3 November 2022 (UTC) :On a possibly related note, {{cl|Post Office Ltd}} shows the same Missing end tag error coming from the Wikidata infobox, but I do not see any <code><nowiki>''</nowiki></code> on the Wikidata page. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:49, 3 November 2022 (UTC) ::{{cl|Mark Ma}} shows a Missing end tag, this time <code><nowiki>'''</nowiki></code>. I removed two instances of stray markup from the Wikidata page, but there is still one error left on the category page. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:25, 3 November 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Jonesey95}} The infobox includes the other labels from the Wikidata item so that they are picked up by Commons' search - so you can search in multiple languages. They aren't displayed deliberately. They shouldn't cause any display issues. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:33, 3 November 2022 (UTC) ::Can they be wrapped in nowiki tags or otherwise processed such that they do not cause these (possibly spurious) Linter errors? I don't want to interfere with the searching, but having them cluttering up the error lists makes it more difficult to track down actual errors. Thanks. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:36, 3 November 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Jonesey95}} Using nowiki sounds like a good idea. I've implemented that in the sandbox, please can you try {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} and see if that solves the problem? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC) ::::I have edited {{cl|Culture by language}} and the other two pages linked above to use the sandbox version temporarily. The Linter errors are gone (nice work!). Does the searching and other background functionality still work there? [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:06, 8 November 2022 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Jonesey95}} It seems to, e.g., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=Categur%C3%ACa%3ACultura+a+ssiconda+lengua&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=page]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:40, 8 November 2022 (UTC) ::::::That looks like a good workaround then. Thanks. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{ping|Jonesey95}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)}} == Wrong image displayed in English and French versions == On [[:Category:Electronic_color_code]] page, viewed [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Electronic_color_code?uselang=en in English] and [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Electronic_color_code?uselang=fr in French] the Wikidata Infobox displays picture for German language [[:File:Farbcode von Widerständen.svg]] in both cases, whereas specific pictures exist for both languages: * the picture should be [[:File:Resistor Color Code.svg]] for English, * it should be [[:File:Code couleur résistance.svg]] for French. --&nbsp;◄&nbsp;[[User:DavidL|'''D'''avid&nbsp;'''L''']]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User_talk:DavidL|discuter]]&nbsp;► 14:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:DavidL|DavidL]]: Thanks for reporting, this will be fixed by [[Special:Diff/703357496]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC) {{ping|DavidL}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:34, 8 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:34, 8 November 2022 (UTC)}} == Link to 'location' category == I'm not sure what I've done wrong, or if it's a bug in this template, but the {{P|276}} for [[:Category:Worlds of Wikimedia 2022]] does not link to [[:Category:Sibyl Centre]]. Anyone got an idea? &mdash; [[User:Samwilson|Sam Wilson]] ( <span style="font-size:0.9em">[[User_talk:Samwilson|Talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Samwilson|Contribs]]</span> ) &hellip; 01:22, 17 November 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Samwilson|Samwilson]], I suspect that it's because {{Q|Q115180739}} didn't have either {{P|P131}} or {{P|P276}}. Once I added these, the link appears properly now. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 02:39, 17 November 2022 (UTC) :Yep, confirmed. If an item's location doesn't have its own P131 and/or P276, a link to that location's category won't appear. Curious little bug. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 02:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC) ::{{re|Huntster}} Ah great! Thanks for figuring it out. :-) &mdash; [[User:Samwilson|Sam Wilson]] ( <span style="font-size:0.9em">[[User_talk:Samwilson|Talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Samwilson|Contribs]]</span> ) &hellip; 02:52, 17 November 2022 (UTC) :::This is working as expected. The last entry in the location chain is not linked by WikidataIB.location because it's usually a country. I assume this is what you were observing. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:02, 17 November 2022 (UTC) ::::@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]], so this is just an edge case where, rather being the last link in the chain, it was the ''only'' link in the chain, and thus wasn't wikilinked? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 15:57, 17 November 2022 (UTC) :::::Exactly. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:28, 18 November 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:08, 30 December 2022 (UTC)}} == Interwikis == Can we switch off interwikis from WD-item for categories which are not intended for them? Example: {{cl|Estatuas por Axel Cotón Gutiérrez}}. [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:05, 1 December 2022 (UTC) :To clarify, are you looking for something like a parameter which would turn interwikis off? How often does this come up? I don't think I've come across this type of intentional "misuse" before. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 09:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC) ::@[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]]: Use <code><nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox|interwiki=no}}</nowiki></code>. See the documentation for available parameters. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Infovarius|Huntster}} The infobox is not designed to work with user categories like that, I've removed it from the category. Ideally the category would have its own Wikidata item linked to it, but that's not feasible for user categories. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:41, 1 December 2022 (UTC) :::I had a feeling this would be the case and outcome, but wanted this discussion to play out first and understand Infovarius' intent. Thanks for taking care of it. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 02:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:07, 30 December 2022 (UTC)}} == Link incl Logo == Is it possible to add the logo on the top of line of RegiowikiAT-Link with [[File:RegiowikiAT Karte.svg|25px|frameless]] like the lines above ov this GND or VIAF? --thx -- [[User:Karl Gruber|K@rl]] ([[User talk:Karl Gruber|talk]]) <small>Diskussion</small> 17:24, 29 December 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Karl Gruber}} You need to add it on Wikidata, as a {{P|P2910}} value for the authority control property. See {{P|P214}} as an example. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:07, 29 December 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Mike Peel}} Now it's in. thx, now I think it's a question of cache, till it appears in the boxes. many thx ---- [[User:Karl Gruber|K@rl]] ([[User talk:Karl Gruber|talk]]) <small>Diskussion</small> 11:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC) :::{{ping|Mike Peel}} Hi, was it real enough, to add the {{P|P2910}}, because, the logos is never seen in a box since this action---- [[User:Karl Gruber|K@rl]] ([[User talk:Karl Gruber|talk]]) <small>Diskussion</small> 17:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Karl Gruber}} Do you have an example category, and I can have a look? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:42, 30 December 2022 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Mike Peel}} One of such categories would be [[:Category:Mödlinger Friedhof]] -- -- [[User:Karl Gruber|K@rl]] ([[User talk:Karl Gruber|talk]]) <small>Diskussion</small> 19:07, 30 December 2022 (UTC) :Moin [[User:Karl Gruber]], ich gebe mal mitlesend eine Antwort. Wenn ich mir {{P|P6228}} anschaue und mit {{P|P227}} vergleiche, dann sehe ich beim RegionalWiki leider ein Statment für "Symbol". Da muss das Symbol rein und dann wird es auch angezeigt. (Und ja, der Cache bei über 4 Millionen Infoboxen braucht dann etwas.) mfg --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:06, 30 December 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|Crazy1880}} Servus, danke, das war mein Fehler, ich gab das Symbol bei [[:d:Q32752205]] statt bei {{P|P6228}} hinein. Jetzt funkts. {{ping|Mike Peel}} many thanks it was my mistake - the symbol was in the false object. regards -- [[User:Karl Gruber|K@rl]] ([[User talk:Karl Gruber|talk]]) <small>Diskussion</small> 21:22, 30 December 2022 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)}} == Radio buttons and their description texts == {{ping|LennardHofmann}} Is it possible to make a no-break space between the radio button and its description text right below the top picture in the box. Sometimes is the radio button in the first line, its description in the second. A sample is here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/6a/20221231141953%21PNG_Test.png Kind regards and Happy New Year, – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 14:20, 31. Dec 2022 (UTC)</small> : {{ping|Doc Taxon}} There already is a no-break space between the radio button and the label, it just doesn't work. This needs to be fixed in [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Infobox.js]] using CSS. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:29, 31 December 2022 (UTC) :: {{ping|Raymond}} can you fix it in [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Infobox.js]] please? – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 18:43, 31. Dec 2022 (UTC)</small> ::: {{ping|Doc Taxon}} I am not very firm in JavaScript. I would prefer if either someone with better JS knowledge do it or give me the code to replace the existent. [[User:Raymond|Raymond]] 13:22, 1 January 2023 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Lucas Werkmeister}} can you do something please? – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 14:02, 1. Jan 2023 (UTC)</small> ::::: {{reply to|Doc Taxon}} Please file an {{tl|edit request}} (probably against [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Infobox.js]], if I’m not mistaken) instead of pinging random interface admins. It will also help if you (or [[User:LennardHofmann]]) can provide more details than “do something”. (But for what it’s worth, while more detailed edit requests are easier to act on, I don’t agree with Andy Mabbett [[#Automatic categorization by cause of death|above]] that this is a <em>requirement</em> for using {{tl|edit request}}.) I’ll also mention that the above screenshot corresponds to [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rohrdorf_(am_Inn)?uselang=de Category:Rohrdorf (am Inn)?uselang=de]. --[[User:Lucas Werkmeister|Lucas Werkmeister]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC) :::::: {{ping|Lucas Werkmeister}} you use "Edit request", if you really know what to change. I'm not very familiar with JavaScript, so it'd better to ping interface admin who has the knowledge about what to change. The page of the linked snippet is [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rohrdorf_(am_Inn)?uselang=de Category:Rohrdorf (am Inn)?uselang=de], yes! If you don't want to edit the template code it'd very help if you can say me, what to change. Thanks for any help. Kind regards, – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 01:45, 3. Jan 2023 (UTC)</small> AntiCompositeNumber could find the solution for the problem: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Infobox.js&diff=722617083&oldid=680078268 Thanks to all who tried to help ... Kind regards – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 03:06, 4. Jan 2023 (UTC)</small> {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)}} == Wikimedia map from topics property == Hi, I was just trying to find why the map is not displayed in the infobox of [[:Category:Female sportspeople from Paraguay]]. The map is working well on [[:Category:Female golfers from France]] for example. The Wikidata item [[wikidata:Q15285400]] is correctly filled with [[wikidata:Q733]] in [[wikidata:Property:P31]] (topics). But looking at the module source, the function named ''body()'' does not return the map if numbers of topics is greater than 2. This is the case here and explains why the map is not displayed. When testig without such a test, map appears in the infobox. Do you know why such a limitation on number of topics has been introduced? {{ping|Mike Peel}}? [[User:Jgui|Jgui]] ([[User talk:Jgui|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:25, 13 January 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Jgui}} It's to make sure the infobox remains compact without trying to display too much, and the page loads quickly (the more items that are loaded, the slower it gets). {{Q|Q106037372}} exists, but I'm not sure if that's a good solution - or follow the structure at [[:Category:Female golfers from France]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:09, 13 January 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)}} == Purge of this categories == : Moved from [[:Category talk:Wikidata infobox maintenance]]. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:10, 17 January 2023 (UTC) Moin Moin [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], Can you tell me how often these categories are purged? The background of the question is that I have transferred first names in Wikidata, but they are still not out of the category. In the German Wikipedia we had a similar problem. There is now a bot and purge this articles. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:01, 11 September 2018 (UTC) :See [[de:Benutzer:AsuraBot/Purges]] * It seems to take a couple of days to a week. We could do null edits by bot if necessary, although it would put some extra strain on the servers. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:32, 11 September 2018 (UTC) ::Moin Moin [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], sounds good with the bot. I did some tests. It's more than a week. Could not the bot be restricted to this category and surnames? I see that I get the category emptied. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:36, 15 September 2018 (UTC) ::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} Which category specifically? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:39, 15 September 2018 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Mike Peel}}: ::::* [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no family name]] ::::* [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no given name]] ::::* [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no instance of]] ::::I think that these three are the main thing. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 15 September 2018 (UTC) ::::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} It turns out that the code to do this is quite simple [https://bitbucket.org/mikepeel/wikicode/src/master/touch.py] - however it's not very quick to run. Does this still need running, or have the caches refreshed themselves now? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC) :Morning {{ping|Mike Peel}}, partly partly. Some entries have disappeared and others, still from 9th September, are still inside. I think it could not hurt, running this. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:55, 24 September 2018 (UTC) :: {{ping|Crazy1880}} OK, the bot's running through all three categories now. Expect it to take a few days to complete, though. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC) ::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} Looks like the bot's finished, does that look better now? I won't run this regularly, so ask me if it needs doing again sometime. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:06, 29 September 2018 (UTC) :Moin Moin {{ping|Mike Peel}}, I will think, that you can run the bot again, I worked a lot. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:15, 24 November 2018 (UTC) :: {{ping|Crazy1880}} It's running again now for the three categories, it will take a day or so to complete. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC) :::Moin Moin {{ping|Mike Peel}}, could you ran it for a last time in this year? Thanks and happy christmas. --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} It's running now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:08, 25 December 2018 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} It's finished now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC) :Moin {{ping|Mike Peel}}, first: I wish you a happy new year. Secondly: that was a long time and Infobox with no given name I will not believe. Ok I'm looking forward and hope I can work more. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:16, 1 January 2019 (UTC) :: {{ping|Crazy1880}} It's a slow process (~1 a second as currently coded), even slower when I'm running it intermittently on my laptop (I'm travelling at the moment). The given name one is now re-running. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC) :: {{ping|Crazy1880}} That's now re-run (it's the quickest one to run). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:52, 2 January 2019 (UTC) Moin {{ping|Mike Peel}}, I hope you came good to this year 2023 and I hope we will have another good teamwork together ;) Could you please purge "Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no instance of", I made some imports. Thanks --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:38, 1 January 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Crazy1880}} Is it OK if this waits until the week of the 9th? I'm traveling at the moment. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:42, 1 January 2023 (UTC) ::Ahhh, have a good tour then, should i remember you then again? Yes, can wait. --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:43, 1 January 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|Crazy1880}} Running now. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC) ::::Moin Mike, i hope you had a good trip then? Thanks for running. Someone flooded this category with "xxxx, Nagoya" things, i don't know how to handle that, perhaps you could have a look, that would be nice. Regards --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:01, 11 January 2023 (UTC) ::::: They look correct, missing {{P|P31}} values? Unless I'm missing something? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC) :::::: {{ping|Crazy1880}} Completed. It ran through 74,294 categories, I see there are now 71,864 remaining. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:09, 17 January 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)}} == Problem with Template Artwork == : Moved from [[:Category talk:Wikidata infobox maintenance]]. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:10, 17 January 2023 (UTC) Moin Moin [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], it seems, that there is a problem with the template Artwork. In the category "Uses of Wikidata Infobox with problems" are now 15 items where the infobox is installed by set the parameter "Wikidata" in the template "Artwork". I think it wasn't designed for that way, right? Could you check it, please? Thanks for advise. --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 28 January 2019 (UTC) : {{ping|Crazy1880}} [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Creator:Antonio_Fern%C3%A1ndez_G%C3%B3mez&diff=336840824&oldid=336076890 fixed]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:35, 28 January 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], I could have come up with that, too. I fixed the rest of them --[[User:Crazy1880|Crazy1880]] ([[User talk:Crazy1880|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:28, 29 January 2019 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)}} == Option to collapse == Please add a parameter to allow the infobox to be initially collapsed (such as {{tlx|Wikidata Infobox|<nowiki>expand=no</nowiki>}}, effectively similar to {{tlx|Collapse|<nowiki>expand=no</nowiki>}}). [[User:Joshbaumgartner|Josh]] ([[User talk:Joshbaumgartner|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC) :Please do not. That would utterly defeat the point of an infobox. Users who do not wish to see them can add a line to their local CSS to hide them. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 21:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC) :: Agree. Do NOT collapse the infobox. The collapsing pandemic has already made the internet mostly unusable. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:46, 12 March 2023 (UTC) {{not done}} Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)}} == How to make Wikidata infobox works across translations? == For example, the infobox is displayed nicely in [[Commons:Dewantara Kirti Griya Museum]], but not in [[Commons:Dewantara Kirti Griya Museum/id|id]], [[Commons:Dewantara Kirti Griya Museum/da|da]], fr, and so on. [[User:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[User talk:Bennylin|yes?]]) 05:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Bennylin}} It's linked to the user interface language, change that. E.g., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Dewantara_Kirti_Griya_Museum?uselang=id] for id. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC) ::Hi Mike, thank you for the answer, but I think I phrased the question incorrectly. I wanted the other translation pages also display the infobox. If you go to [[Commons:Dewantara_Kirti_Griya_Museum/id]], for example, it doesn't display the infobox. This happened, even though the original code already specify the Q item - <nowiki>{{Wikidata Infobox|Q12499637}}</nowiki> (e.g. not automatically search based on page title) [[User:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[User talk:Bennylin|yes?]]) 07:45, 2 March 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|Bennylin}} Ah, I see. You need to specify qid= - [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Dewantara_Kirti_Griya_Museum&diff=prev&oldid=737289902 like this]. That seems to have fixed it in most translations, but not id for some reason. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:35, 2 March 2023 (UTC) ::::It works, thanks! I would've thought that parameter {{{1}}} would be an alias to {{{qid}}}. [[User:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[User talk:Bennylin|yes?]]) 08:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC)}} == Wikipedia link in infobox == It appears there has been some kind of vandalism or such to the infobox, as the link to Wikipedia now reads "WikipediaW", but for the life of me I cannot find where this is happening. @[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 15:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Huntster}} It's in {{Q|Q52}}, [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q52&diff=prev&oldid=1871997422 this edit], [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q52&diff=prev&oldid=1872021908 since reverted] - but I guess cache caught it. It should clear through given time... Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC) ::Bah, the one (most obvious) place I didn't consider. Thanks, Mike. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 20:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC)}} == Automatic categorization by cause of death == {{Tl|Edit request}} It would be nice if we not only could show the [[Wikidata:Property:P509]] (cause of death) but also put the page into a matching category, like [[:Category:Deaths_from_pneumonia]] or [[:Category:Deaths from cholera]]. [[User:Rettinghaus|Rettinghaus]] ([[User talk:Rettinghaus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:00, 28 December 2022 (UTC) :Please don't use {{tl|Edit request}} unless you have a ''specific'' change which can be copied into the template or module code. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 17:51, 30 December 2022 (UTC) ::I have [[Special:Diff/721883707|implemented this]] in the sandbox module. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:57, 1 January 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|Rettinghaus}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Atlas ID to be changed to Louvre Collections ID == Hello In the external IDs for Art, the ID used for the Louvre Collections items is the Wikidata property https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1212 for Atlas database. The base is no longer published since 2021. The links may make redirections to the new Louvre Collection database but many Atlas IDs are dead links. Example: http://cartelfr.louvre.fr/cartelfr/visite?srv=car_not_frame&idNotice=20688&langue=fr in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Chasse_d%27Alexandre_(Louvre,_Ma_858) Category:Chasse_d%27Alexandre_(Louvre,_Ma_858)]. Furthermore the new Louvre collections database has its own ID on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P9394 and more Louvre items are linked in Wikidata with this ID. Example: [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20667952 Q20667952 ] https://collections.louvre.fr/ark:/53355/cl010279155 So the use of Wikidata Atlas ID/P1212 should be changed to Louvre Collections ID/P9394 ; [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Wikidata_Infobox/sandbox&diff=next&oldid=726182802|the modification] Best regards [[User:Shonagon|Shonagon]] ([[User talk:Shonagon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:06, 14 January 2023 (UTC) : This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Small fix to module: unbalanced tags == I have [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3AWikidata_Infobox%2Fsandbox&diff=726182802&oldid=725248187 fixed unbalanced tags] in the module sandbox. Please include this change in the live module when it is next updated. [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Jonesey95}} This is now live, thanks for the bugfix. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Czech structural object ID == {{tl|Edit request}} Please add {{P|11351}} (8300+ cats) to the "Cultural heritage and architecture" group. Consider also adding {{P|454}} (19000+ cats) and {{P|1305}} (3100+ cats) to the same group. [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC) :Tested in the {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} (try [[:Category:AZ Tower]] for example). [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC) :: Thanks, this looks fine, it'll go live in the next version. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:22, 5 April 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|Jklamo}} It's now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Add NSW Heritage listing authority == Hi all, this was discussed on the Village Pump some time back (I wasn't aware this was the correct place to ask!), but can we please added property ID P3449 to the authority control section of this infobox? The property is the NSW Heritage database ID. I have uploaded a lot of photos of these items which have infoboxes, would be very nice to see them in the infobox :-) I believe it is already in the sandbox. - [[User:Chris.sherlock2|Chris.sherlock2]] ([[User talk:Chris.sherlock2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:34, 25 February 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Mike Peel}} I was wondering if it would be ok to implement these changes now? - [[User:Chris.sherlock2|Chris.sherlock2]] ([[User talk:Chris.sherlock2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC) ::{{ping|Chris.sherlock2}} It's in {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, does that look OK to you? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC) :::Looks great! thank you for implementing this Mike, I really appreciate it. - [[User:Chris.sherlock2|Chris.sherlock2]] ([[User talk:Chris.sherlock2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Chris.sherlock2}} It's now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == {{P|P1038}} should be a part of the "human" group and always appear == What the title says. {{P|22}}, {{P|25}}, {{P|40}} etc. are all in this group and all appear for all human items as listed [[Template:Wikidata_Infobox/doc/properties#Human|here]]. {{P|P1038}} should appear too. [[User:OmegaFallon|OmegaFallon]] ([[User talk:OmegaFallon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|OmegaFallon}} Added at {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, how does that look to you? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:17, 5 April 2023 (UTC) ::Testing on [[:Category:Ruby Rose (RWBY)]] looks alright to me. Apologies for the late reply; I was unable to access my computer for many days. [[User:OmegaFallon|OmegaFallon]] ([[User talk:OmegaFallon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC) :::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Any updates on this? It seems like a pretty non-controversial addition to the human group. [[User:OmegaFallon|OmegaFallon]] ([[User talk:OmegaFallon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC) ::::{{ping|OmegaFallon}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Prefer collage over single image == @[[User:Multichill]] @[[User:Mike Peel]] See [[:Category:Reptilia]]. Please prefer [[d:Property:P2716|collage]] over single image, either unconditionally and always, or at least add a parameter to achieve this. A collage is far more useful to show the scope of a topic (Q-item, category, ...) than a single image of a fragment of the topic. For example, a collage showing a turle, a snake, a dino and a crocodile is much more appropriate to visualize the scope of reptilia than a picture of a single species. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Taylor 49}} This makes sense to me, but media captions may be an issue. Implemented at {{tl|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}, how does that look to you? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:15, 5 April 2023 (UTC) :: Great. @[[User:Mike Peel]]: I see that you edited [[Module:Wikidata Infobox/sandbox]] and the changes are very minor. When previewing the cat [[:Category:Reptilia]], the caption was broken and Russian. But this can be fixed and has been fixed by adding a sane caption at WikiData. Maybe the module should sanitize the caption coming from WikiData a bit: unlink, and truncate if too long. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:23, 6 April 2023 (UTC) ::: @[[User:Multichill]] @[[User:Mike Peel]] Can we get this activated now? [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC) :::: {{ping|Taylor 49}} It's now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Percent encoding problem == when i tried to create a new item for [[:Category:Chua Lam's Dim Sum]], the link https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewItem?site=commonswiki&page=Category:Chua_Lam%26%2339;s_Dim_Sum&label=Chua+Lam%26%2339%3Bs+Dim+Sum wants to add a commons sitelink with percent encoding. i couldnt change the " & #39;s " to 's manually. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC) : Is this resolved now? [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC) ::Fixed in [[Special:Diff/749595957|this edit]] by replacing <code><nowiki>{{urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}}}</nowiki></code> with <code><nowiki>{{PAGENAMEE}}</nowiki></code>. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC) :::@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] thx a lot. looks good. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:04, 13 April 2023 (UTC) ::::{{ping|RZuo|LennardHofmann}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:07, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:07, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == No links if information is folded? == Normally it's possible to switch to other cats if there are items and Commonscats It seems that isn't possible if the information is folded. For example [[:Category:Frederick II, Duke of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] or his wife [[:Category:Magdalena Augusta of Anhalt-Zerbst]]. You can't switch to the cats of children although they exist. If you are in the category of one child [[:Category:Frederick III, Duke of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] you can switch to parents. Can you fix it? '''[[User:Z thomas|Z]]'''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Z thomas|thomas]]</sup> 07:20, 18 April 2023 (UTC) :Here are some detailed information. I hope you can use it :* {{Item|Q61447}} and {{Item|Q64207}} were married and they had 16 children. :** all of their children are added at their wikidata-items and they are shown in the wikida-infoboxes. but they aren't linked in the infoboxes. but you can link between {{Item|Q61447}} and {{Item|Q64207}} :* two of their children were {{Item|Q65038}} and {{Item|Q1692285}}. they have 15 siblings (of course :-) ) :** but only 6 siblings are added at their wikidata-items. they are shown in the infoboxes and the are linked. their parents {{Item|Q61447}} and {{Item|Q64207}} are added at their wikidata-items and they are shown and linkes in the wikida-infobox. :'''Problem:''' :* you can link from the infobox of {{Item|Q65038}} to the category of {{Item|Q61447}}, {{Item|Q64207}} and {{Item|Q1692285}} :* but you can't link from {{Item|Q61447}} to {{Item|Q65038}} and {{Item|Q1692285}}. you can only link to {{Item|Q64207}} :'''Statement''' :at {{Item|Q61447}} the information about {{Item|Q65038}} and {{Item|Q1692285}} are folded. The information about {{Item|Q64207}} is unfolded :at {{Item|Q65038}} the information about {{Item|Q61447}}, {{Item|Q65038}} and {{Item|Q64207}} are unfolded :'''Idea''' :the folder blocks the links '''[[User:Z thomas|Z]]'''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Z thomas|thomas]]</sup> 14:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC) ::@[[User:Z thomas|Z thomas]]: Your observation is correct: collapsed values are not linked. This is an intentional feature to drastically improve performance on some categories like {{c|Category:2010 FIFA World Cup}} (where the values have [[d:Q131785|very large Wikidata items]]). The justification is that most readers will probably not look at the collapsed values, but slow page rendering affects every one. Would it help you if the collapsed values were linked to their Wikidata items? If the {{P|40}} links are important for your work we could also add an exception for that property so that its values are always linked. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:14, 19 April 2023 (UTC) :::@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] thanks for your answer. Yes this would be helpful, and for the property {{P|P3373}} too. '''[[User:Z thomas|Z]]'''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Z thomas|thomas]]</sup> 07:28, 19 April 2023 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Z thomas|LennardHofmann}} It's now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Louvre Collections ID == A request was made in january about a [[Template talk:Wikidata Infobox#Atlas ID to be changed to Louvre Collections ID|switch between the use of the old Atlas ID to the new Collection ID about Louvre Collections]] . This small improvement would have only advantages. Would it be possible to make the change? Best regards [[User:Shonagon|Shonagon]] ([[User talk:Shonagon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:20, 1 June 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Shonagon}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Lua error in Module:Wikidata_Infobox at line 160: attempt to index field 'datavalue' (a nil value). == I’m seeing the above error message on some category pages (e.g., [[:Category:Animations of pornography]]). Can anyone figure out what’s wrong? --[[User:Zundark|Zundark]] ([[User talk:Zundark|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:14, 17 June 2023 (UTC) : {{ping|Zundark}} It's being caused by "no value" statements in unexpected places on Wikidata, [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4373044&diff=prev&oldid=1917331716 fixed with this edit]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC) ::I think [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4373044&diff=prev&oldid=1917551174 this] is what was meant. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 18:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC) :::[[:Category:Videos from Polissons et galipettes]] has the same problem. The script error was [[Special:Diff/705173295|fixed months ago]] in the sandbox. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:38, 18 June 2023 (UTC) :::That said, on re-examining the file it has captions in English. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 18:56, 18 June 2023 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Zundark|Pigsonthewing|LennardHofmann}} New version of the infobox is now deployed, with Lennard's fix for this issue. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:53, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:53, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == wrong display of publication date == {{P|577}} can be used with qualifiers {{P|580}} and {{P|582}}. Publication time spans are used e.g. for books series or periodicals like {{Q|51447486}}, see the infobox at [[:Category:Biologisches Centralblatt]]. The statement is currently displayed as<br/><tt>2nd millennium'''date QS:P,+1500-00-00T00:00:00Z/6''' (1881–1916)</tt><br />instead of<br/><tt>2nd millennium (1881–1916)</tt>.<br />The display problem started yesterday, afaics. --[[User:AmsaTalla|AmsaTalla]] ([[User talk:AmsaTalla|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:12, 3 July 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|AmsaTalla}} Thanks for reporting. This is the cause of [[Special:Diff/778963514|this edit]]. {{ping|Mike Peel|Jarekt}} Please copy [[Module:WikidataIB/sandbox]] to [[Module:WikidataIB]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:26, 4 July 2023 (UTC) ::Thanks for the quick fix {{ping|LennardHofmann}} it's now live. That seems to have resolved the problem, {{ping|AmsaTalla}}? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Wikidata property proposal "information sign" == On Wikidata I [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/information sign|proposed a new property]] that could be included as media file into the Wikidata Infobox. So far only one other user has made a comment on the proposal. I think that many Commons users – especially, but not only, architectural and heritage monument photographers – could be interested in such a new property so I hope for some more responses.--[[User:Image-Improver Bonn|Image-Improver Bonn]] ([[User talk:Image-Improver Bonn|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:11, 21 October 2022 (UTC) :The new property {{P|P11702}} has been added to the infobox, see e.g. [[:Category:Bonn Minster]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:42, 5 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:42, 5 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Add a test == {{tl|Edit request}} [[Module:Wikidata Infobox]] produces an error on [[:Category:Fièvre (1921 film)]] : ''Lua error in Module:Wikidata_Infobox at line 160: attempt to index field 'datavalue' (a nil value).'' Could someone with editing rights add a test on the existence of <code>qual.datavalue</code> on that line? Thank you. I made the change [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Wikidata_Infobox/sandbox&diff=705173295&oldid=705173067 in the sandbox] and checked it works. [[User:Seudo|Seudo]] ([[User talk:Seudo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:06, 12 November 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|Seudo}} There were some "no value" statements on Wikidata for some reason, [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3073138&type=revision&diff=1769854467&oldid=1761831951 now removed], and the infobox works as it is. Although your changes are probably a good idea for making sure the infobox continues to work in such cases, perhaps with a tracking category. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:44, 12 November 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks, but I think it should at least display a more user-friendly message (such as "there is a problem with the X statement at Wikidata"). It's always a good idea to check that a Wikidata/Lua object exists before using it. [[User:Seudo|Seudo]] ([[User talk:Seudo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:12, 12 November 2022 (UTC) :::Thanks for reporting and fixing. The fix is now live! [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC)}} == rendering failures due to selfreferening of common categories == hi! https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=63916047 is fixed now. in the infobox the link to the wikidata item is now correct and not to the wikidata item of the commons category itself.<br /> the fix was made by deletion of the value of the category from "''in other multilingual projects''". then this value could be added to the proper wikidata item about Sfânta Sava college.<br/> in theory such errors can happen everywhere. can anybody check for similar misconfigurations? thanks in advance. gangleri aka lery raynhart aka 17:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC) <span dir="ltr">[[user:קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן|no bias — קיין אומוויסנדיקע פּרעפֿערענצן — keyn umvisndike preferentsn]] <sup>[[user talk:קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן|talk]] [[special:contributions/קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן|contribs]]</sup></span> <span dir="ltr">[[user:קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן|no bias — קיין אומוויסנדיקע פּרעפֿערענצן — keyn umvisndike preferentsn]] <sup>[[user talk:קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן|talk]] [[special:contributions/קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן|contribs]]</sup></span> 17:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן}} The commons category link was correct, the problem was that {{Q|Q3067523}} and {{Q|Q8698590}} weren't linked together using {{P|P971}} and {{P|P301}} - I've now done that. {{ping|LennardHofmann}} do you think it would be feasible to add a tracking category for cases of {{P|P31}}={{Q|Q4167836}} that don't have {{P|P301}} - and also, don't have {{P|971}}, since those mostly wouldn't have corresponding topic items? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:41, 25 November 2022 (UTC) :::The tracking category proposed by Mike Peel has been added in [[Special:Diff/709334144]] and is live. See also [[#Add tracker category if category doesn't have enough information]]. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:42, 5 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Please link "Author" == Please see [[:Category:Die Vogelwarte Rossitten der Deutschen Ornithologischen Gesellschaft und das Kennzeichnen der Vögel (1910)]]. I expect "Johannes Thienemann" as the author being linked to [[:Category:Johannes Thienemann]] (at [[d:Q67915]] Commons sitelink and P373 are ok afaik). thx [[User:AmsaTalla|AmsaTalla]] ([[User talk:AmsaTalla|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC) :Thanks for reporting. Authors not being linked was actually an issue on all category pages. This is now fixed in {{t|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. —[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC) Ping@[[User:Mike Peel]]: For books and alike, editor (P98), illustrator (P110), publisher (P123), etc… all are linked in infoboxes, only author (P50) is unlinked. This is bad. Is there a chance that this will be fixed also for "real" infoboxes, not only in the sandbox? [[User:AmsaTalla|AmsaTalla]] ([[User talk:AmsaTalla|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:44, 17 April 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC)}} == Statements to be displayed == Please, display {{P|6529}} just in the same way as {{P|4856}} is displayed. That is an alternative type of house numbers. Thank You. [[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC) :Added to {{Template|Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:41, 30 July 2023 (UTC) ::{{ping|LennardHofmann|ŠJů}} This is now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)}} == OpenStreetMap link does not work? == Can it be that the OpenStreetMap links do not work? Examples: * [[:Category:Wir_sind_das_Volk_(Rolf_Biebl)]] ** Result: [https://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=%5Bout%3Acustom%5D%3Bnode%5Bwikidata%3DQ114878383%5D%3Bif%28count%28nodes%29%3D%3D0%29%7Bway%5Bwikidata%3DQ114878383%5D%3B%7D%3Bif%28count%28ways%29%3D%3D0%29%7Brel%5Bwikidata%3DQ114878383%5D%3B%7D%3Bout%201%3B OSM3S Response (overpass-api.de):] * [[:Category:Mauerdenkmal_(Straße_der_Erinnerung)]] ** Result: [https://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=%5Bout%3Acustom%5D%3Bnode%5Bwikidata%3DQ116236826%5D%3Bif%28count%28nodes%29%3D%3D0%29%7Bway%5Bwikidata%3DQ116236826%5D%3B%7D%3Bif%28count%28ways%29%3D%3D0%29%7Brel%5Bwikidata%3DQ116236826%5D%3B%7D%3Bout%201%3B OSM3S Response (overpass-api.de)] [[User:Molgreen|Molgreen]] ([[User talk:Molgreen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC) :@[[User:Molgreen|Molgreen]]: Thanks for reporting. The examples you gave are small objects (modeled as nodes in OSM); the links work fine for bigger entities (ways and relations). I have fixed the issue with nodes in the [[Special:Diff/791846330|sandbox module]]. The fix will go live in a few weeks or months. But even then it might still say "No results found" if the OSM element is missing the {{mono|1=wikidata=Qxxx}} tag. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC) ::@[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]], Thanks for your feedback and the fix --[[User:Molgreen|Molgreen]] ([[User talk:Molgreen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|LennardHofmann|Molgreen}} Thanks for the fix. It's now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC)}} == [[:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no image]] - please exclude dates of months == Can dates of months, like [[:Category:1 April]] and [[:Category:16 August]], also be excluded from this category? I think it is rather nonsensical to have images in Wikidata infoboxes of these categories. [[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:25, 13 June 2023 (UTC) :can https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2812&diff=prev&oldid=1914441375 be a compromise solution? [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC) ::Yes, but that means that 366 items should be adjusted. If there is a less time consuming way, I would rather have that. [[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:50, 13 June 2023 (UTC) :::it's possible to batch edit wikidata items using [[d:Help:QuickStatements]]. :::if wikidata users agree that this solution, "setting no image" for certain wikidata items, is acceptable, you can batch edit them, or you can also ask someone familiar with QS to do that for you. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:59, 13 June 2023 (UTC) ::::As a Wikidata contributor: Setting no image is not acceptable. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 16:10, 13 June 2023 (UTC) :Of course such categories should have an image. If they're overwhelming the category under discussion, a sub-category should be created. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 16:10, 13 June 2023 (UTC) ::set p18 for [[:Category:16 August]] as an example to enlighten other users then. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:13, 13 June 2023 (UTC) {{Agree}} --[[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:53, 14 June 2023 (UTC) ::::Thanks, [[User:RZuo|RZuo]], for your answers. ::::1) How do I get permission for this solution? Where should I asked permission? ::::2) I have never used QuickStatements, but I do want to learn. So after there is permission, I'll first try to figure out how it works and then perhaps ask for help. ::::--[[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:51, 14 June 2023 (UTC) :::::you can raise the issue at [[d:Wikidata:Project_chat]] and see what they think is the solution to {{P|18}} for these kinds of abstract ideas. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:51, 14 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::Thanks, [[User:RZuo]]. I posed the question at [[d:Wikidata:Project chat#c:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no image - can dates of months be excluded?]]. [[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:20, 15 June 2023 (UTC) :::::::[[File:Crystal Clear app date D20.png|thumb|100px|May 20 - calendar sheet]] :::::::In the mean time I found a solution, [[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]] was right: there is a possibility for images, even for dates of months. We can use icons of calender sheets for each day. It is a lot of work, but it is not nonsensical to have them in Wikidata items for dates of months. They can be found in [[:Category:Calendar icons]] (all icons of dates there now, have been better categorized and used in a Wikidata item). I used {{P|2910}} instead of {{P|18}}. :::::::For over 300 dates there is not yet an icon. Who wants to help, can do so! You may choose yourself the color, layout, language (only Latin script and Arabic numerals) and extension. Take care that in Commons you give credit to the maker. Choose as Commons categories: (1) the date (a grandchild of [[:Category:Days by month]]) and (2) [[:Category:Calendar icons]] or a subcategory. :::::::{{Withdraw}} :::::::Thanks, [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] for your input. [[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:59, 15 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::::yes i know this kind of icons could be an option, but is this a good choice for p18 for the abstract idea of a date? ::::::::off-topic: is there a design for "date icon" independent of languages? (we'll take arabic numerals for granted, even though some languages dont even use arabic numerals.) [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC) :::::::::i was aware of this problem, so i didnt use "1 april" as an example at the beginning, because an "april fools" image could be set for that, even though the concept of april fool's day also originated from european cultures, but it's now quite universally understood. :::::::::imo, for abstract ideas, p18 should be as universal as possible. it shouldnt rely on culture/language-specific contexts to understand. [[wikt:en:August#Translations]] quite many languages (including european languages like irish!) dont use a word that has the same origin as august. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:43, 15 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::::::in addition to p2910, {{p|2716}} can also be an option. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:13, 15 June 2023 (UTC) :::::::::::That is a good point you bring up. No, I do not think icons for dates can be universal and independant from culture and language. And a collage image certainly can be an alternative. But I think for now we should be practical, something is better than nothing, the alternative for now would be having no image at all (because uploading over 300 icons and include them in Wikidata items is already a lot of work, but searching for several icons and combining them to a collage image is a lot more and I won't do that). So for now, I am going on with uploading icons for datums, with European biased images, even somewhat broader than the rules for category names (should be in English). I hope people from other cultures can at least see the icon depicts a calender and gives them a clue about the subject. Whoever wants images that include other cultures and languages, can make them and replace the current ones. [[User:JopkeB|JopkeB]] ([[User talk:JopkeB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:14, 16 June 2023 (UTC) :New topic created at [[d:Wikidata:Project_chat#c:Category:Uses_of_Wikidata_Infobox_with_no_image_-_can_dates_of_months_be_excluded?]]. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|talk]]) 20:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)}} ==Military service== @[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] Can we expand the infobox for military people? See: [[w:Douglas MacArthur]] versus [[:Category:Douglas MacArthur]]. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:27, 6 July 2023 (UTC) MacArthur :{{ping|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )}} Can you be more specific and name Wikidata property IDs that could be added, please? It's straightforward to add more Wikidata properties to the Infobox, but rather more complex to decipher them from the enwiki infobox. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:30, 13 August 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)}} ==Requested move to [[Template:Wikidata infobox]]== {{tl|edit protected}} Hello, this template needs renaming (moving) to [[Template:Wikidata infobox]]. Rationale is that 'infobox' is <u>not</u> a proper noun, and all other 'infobox' templates on En.Wp use the lower-case 'second' (and additional) words in their title, such as [[w:Template:Infobox person]], [[w:Template:Infobox road]]. Only proper nouns should be capitalised, such as [[w:Template:Infobox Pennsylvania historic site]], [[w:Template:Infobox Philippine Congress]], etc. Regards. [[User:Militum professio scriniarii|Militum professio scriniarii]] ([[User talk:Militum professio scriniarii|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC) :While I'd also like 'nice and tidy and grammatically correct', such a change doesn't really benefit the project, nor does it matter in the least how en.wiki formats their template titles. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 13:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC) ::I Completely Agree That The Template Currently Has An Incorrect Name And Should Be Named [[Template:Wikidata infobox]], But I Don't Think It's Worth The Effort. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|talk]]) 19:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC) :::So why the actual reluctance to rename? Bots can happily fix all the redirects. I am not sure what 'effort' is required (though if I have missed something, please enlighten). I also noticed this issue was raised before (I subsequently searched the archives after my original comment), and there was support for the rename, but it seems apathy wins! :p [[User:Militum professio scriniarii|Militum professio scriniarii]] ([[User talk:Militum professio scriniarii|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:01, 9 August 2023 (UTC) {{ping|Militum professio scriniarii|Huntster|Multichill}} It's complicated. ;-) It's not apathy, but I should have provided more background in the earlier discussion. * I deliberately used Infobox starting with a capital letter since this is aimed at being the Wikidata Infobox here that applies to all categories and topics, as opposed to one of many infoboxes on different topic areas like the Wikipedias used - so it's more of a proper name than a description. Whether that was the right thing to do or not can always be debated. ;-) * The name is hard-coded in the various Python scripts that I use to deploy the Infobox, all of which would have to be updated if we renamed it. Possible, but extra work. * The Infobox is live in around 4.5 million categories - if we renamed it and wanted to avoid all of those uses going through a redirect, that would be a lot of edits to make! * Functionally, and bearing in mind all the work that would be needed, would it make a practical difference? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:22, 13 August 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)}} == Add Wikidocumentaries link == Wikidocumentaries is a website that navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items and properties. It is especially focused on displaying materials visually. See an example page that features an upload banner for Wiki Loves Monuments https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmcloud.org/Q97440924. In the coming week, we are adding a new feature to import media that has been found in connected external repositories into Wikimedia Commons with a simple upload process. This has been developed as Google Summer of Code 2023 project. Wikidocumentaries can be extended to display information in many ways and to allow many tools to work with the content, and for anyone to add to the project. – [[User:Susannaanas|Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas)]] ([[User talk:Susannaanas|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC) :looks like an amazing tool! thx a lot! :{{s}} addition to wdib. [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC) ::: {{ping|Susannaanas|RZuo}} Added. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:53, 8 September 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:53, 8 September 2023 (UTC)}} == Add legal form P1454 == Please add legal form https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1454 - it helps to determine the type of object one is looking at. Cf. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P1454 [[Special:Contributions/77.183.118.104|77.183.118.104]] 11:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC) : Added. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)}} == Severely broken now == [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&oldid=799378646 evidence: preview this]. Problem: links outside of the box. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:36, 7 September 2023 (UTC) :To my knowledge this only effects [[outreach:]] and [[ak:]] sitelinks, which are used rarely on Wikidata (mostly on Wikimedia-internal items). I've already taken of outreach links leaking out in [[Special:Diff/798026183|the sandbox]]. I don't think that an exception for akwiki is needed, given that it [[meta:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Akan Wikipedia 2|has been closed]] so the Wikidata sitelinks to it will probably be [[phab:T333765|deleted soon]]. --[[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC) ::{{ping|LennardHofmann}} I'll make the sandbox live this eve. Would it be worth adding ak in there temporarily? (I don't know how long the process of removing them from Wikidata will take, this isn't a usual situation.) Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC) ::: {{ping|Taylor 49|LennardHofmann}}Now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC) :::: Why does this (broken links outside of the box) happen at all? [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3AWikidata_Infobox&diff=799713024&oldid=792728886 Now live] Well ... "outreach" is gone, broken "ak" link still there. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC) ::::: See [[#Template inserting page name as plain text on every page]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:05, 9 September 2023 (UTC) :::::: Yeah I see [[Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2023/09]]. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:22, 9 September 2023 (UTC) {{section resolved|[[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:22, 9 September 2023 (UTC)}} ==Capitalized title== {{tl|edit protected}} Hello. Could someone please add <s><nowiki>{{lc:</nowiki></s> to the title of the infobox? In Wikidata, terms are usually not capitalized in Slovene, which is then also displayed in lowercase in titles of Wikidata infoboxes here. Thank you. --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] <sup>[[User talk:TadejM|(t/p)]]</sup> 11:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|TadejM}} This is a WONTFIX, you need to set labels appropriately on Wikidata, the infobox just makes use of them. I've tried selective title formatting here before, and it doesn't work well, since the infobox applies to all topics (should people names be lower case?), and all languages (should all languages be lower case?)... Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC) [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], do you know perhaps what is the current guideline on Wikidata? It seems unnatural to use capitalized common nouns as only proper nouns should be capitalized in Slovene. The same also applies to English as I see English common nouns are not capitalized in Wikidata either. On the other hand, it is grammatically incorrect to start a heading lowercase. --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] <sup>[[User talk:TadejM|(t/p)]]</sup> 14:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)<br /> :[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], it's a lapsus on my part. My apologies. Actually the request should be just the opposite, to start the heading uppercase. So the request is to add <nowiki>{{uc:</nowiki> or whatever works in the code. --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] <sup>[[User talk:TadejM|(t/p)]]</sup> 15:02, 26 April 2023 (UTC) ::{{ping|TadejM}} The same issues still apply. Another example is, what to do with "iPhone"? It's an idea that sounds good, but is really difficult to implement - hence why it's best sorted out on Wikidata somehow. Suggest asking there at [[:d:Wikidata:Project_chat]]. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:34, 27 April 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Mike Peel}} Thank you for the reply. I understand that there may be issues with certain names, such as ''iPhone''. Would it be possible to implement the uppercase as default and the lowercase as an option? --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] <sup>[[User talk:TadejM|(t/p)]]</sup> 12:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC) :: Not really. E.g., what happens if you want uc in one language and lc in another? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC) :Would it be possible to implement this on a per language basis? The code would contain default uppercase capitalization and would allow override for individual languages or all languages. It really does not seem the correct way of action to change capitalization in Wikidata just for the purpose of correct display in infoboxes on Commons. --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] <sup>[[User talk:TadejM|(t/p)]]</sup> 01:24, 28 April 2023 (UTC) :: That sounds very messy and difficult to maintain, I suggest opening this up for wider discussion (perhaps village pump here, or project chat on Wikidata) to see what others think. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC) :@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]], this would be handled best and without unnecessary hassle by implementing this solution only for 'sl' and other languages may be later added as required. However, if you think a wider community discussion is required I will open a discussion. --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] <sup>[[User talk:TadejM|(t/p)]]</sup> 22:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:49, 28 October 2023 (UTC)}} == Infobox where sitelink to commons is a gallery, not a category == Hi {{Ping|Mike Peel}}, as an example see {{Q|700709}}, which has a site link to a commons gallery: [[Festung Kufstein]] and a {{P|373}} with value [[:category:Festung Kufstein]]. The Infobox in [[:category:Festung Kufstein]] does not show the content of the WD-entry as long as there is no qid-Parameter added to the call of {{tl|Wikidata Infobox}}: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Festung_Kufstein&diff=prev&oldid=794109279&diffmode=source]. As manually maintaining qids is annoying, can you please change the implementation to use P373 in case the sitelink is a gallery. Or do something equivalent with the same result. best --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:12, 18 August 2023 (UTC) :You create a Wikidata item for the category like {{q|Q121712186}} and make the sitelink to Commons "Category:Festung Kufstein" with {{p|P301}} of {{q|Q700709}} and the reverse statement on {{q|Q700709}} {{P|910}} of {{q|Q121712186}}. Then the template will show the information from the main item. --[[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC) ::This is the workaround, isn't it? --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:30, 24 August 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|Herzi Pinki|William Graham}} This is the way it has to work. The category on Commons can only see the connected Wikidata item when the sitelink exists, P373 is a query away. This is why sitelinks are so important and P373, um, isn't and should be deleted. It's best to set up the category items on Wikidata. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 8 September 2023 (UTC) ::::{{Ping|Mike Peel}} your proposal, which I don't fully understand, is way more complicated than explicitly adding the Qid to the infobox (as in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Festung_Kufstein&diff=prev&oldid=794109279&diffmode=source]). Or way more complicated as compared to replacing the sitelink to a commons gallery by the corresponding commons category. I can live with empty infoboxes on commons, there will be someone else to follow these tedious manual steps. --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Herzi Pinki}} Sitelinks are the established way to go here (they're the way that 4m+ infoboxes are working), and they aren't that complicated. Add manual qids if you need, and I'll try to clean them up later. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC) ::::::sitelinks do work perfectly if they link to the corresponding commons category. Maybe one in 1000 sitelinks links to a commons gallery. So your proposal is to artificially create non-real-world-objects für categories in the other 999 cases? This expects endless resources and endless time, which I do not see and which I'm from day to day less willing to spend. best --[[User:Herzi Pinki|Herzi Pinki]] ([[User talk:Herzi Pinki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:00, 8 September 2023 (UTC) :::::::{{ping|Herzi Pinki}} No, for the 999 cases, just link to the Commons category in the sitelink. For the 1/1000th case, create a new category item. It's the best practical solution that I've found so far. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:03, 8 September 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:49, 28 October 2023 (UTC)}} == Edit request: fix iw.toolforge.org link == {{tl|edit request}} Please apply [[Special:Diff/806288707|this sandbox diff]] to the [[Module:Wikidata Infobox|module]], so that the infobox links directly to kmlexport.toolforge.org and skips the iw.toolforge.org/kmlexport redirect. This should be a tiny bit faster for users, and more importantly integrates better with [[Special:LinkSearch]]. (In the longer term, we could also consider a dedicated interwiki for this, see [[Module talk:Authority control#Use interwiki links instead of external links if possible|related discussion]]; but I’d like to fix the iw.toolforge.org link first.) Pinging {{U|Mike Peel}} as the main maintainer; also, note to any fulfilling admin: the sandbox has a few additional changes that weren’t added to the main module yet, so don’t copy the whole contents unless you also want to add those changes :) [[User:Lucas Werkmeister|Lucas Werkmeister]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Lucas Werkmeister}} Thanks for the edit. Unless this is urgent, I'd like to wait a bit and make it live in the next batch update, if that's OK? Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:04, 30 September 2023 (UTC) ::@[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]]: Works for me as long as the next batch update is not, like, several months away ^^ thanks! [[User:Lucas Werkmeister|Lucas Werkmeister]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:47, 1 October 2023 (UTC) {{ping|Lucas Werkmeister}} Now live. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)}} == Outside link == In the {{c|Pages with script errors|+}} the template generates an outside link towards [[f:Category:Pages with script errors]], but only when included in category pages (this also happens with {{tld|Wikidata Infobox|qid{{=}}Q7192108}}). --[[User:ZandDev|ZandDev]] ([[User talk:ZandDev|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC) :Already fixed [[Special:Diff/809257332|in the sandbox]]. Thanks for reporting anyway. [[User:LennardHofmann|LennardHofmann]] ([[User talk:LennardHofmann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC) The fix is now live. Thanks. 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