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target="_blank">Smerconish on CNN</a> <div slot="date">Nov 23, 2024</div> <time slot="eplength">43 mins</time> <picture> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/smerconish-on-cnn/square-m.f2842ae5.jpg" data-type="medium"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/smerconish-on-cnn/square-l.60cbaf39.jpg" data-type="large"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/smerconish-on-cnn/square.30bb97ad.jpg" data-type="original"> </picture> <div slot="description"><p>House Representative Nancy Mace announced plans to introduce legislation that would bar transgender women from using women's restrooms and changing rooms in the Captial. Zoey Tur, a transgender journalist, joins CNN's Michael Smerconish to discuss the latest and how it is affecting the larger conversation on transgender rights. Then, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist, Peggy Noonan, joins to discuss Trump's latest cabinet picks and give her predictions for his presidency. Finally, did you know that nearly 70% of the United State's food supply is made up of ultra-processed foods? Michael Moss, the author of "Salt Sugar Fat," joins Smerconish to dissect why that is and introduce ways families can incorporate healthier choices. </p></div> </audio-player-wc> </div> </section> </div> <bottom-player-wc> <div class="metadata"> <div class="author" id="author"></div> <div class="title" id="title"></div> </div> <div class="controls-progress"> <div class="controls"> <button class="control replay clickt" id="control-replay" data-clickt="replay-button" aria-label="Replay Last 10 Seconds"></button> <button class="control play-pause" id="control-play-pause" aria-label="Toggle Play And Pause"></button> <button class="control speed" id="control-speed" aria-label="Toggle Playback Speed"></button> </div> <div class="progress-time"> <time class="elapsed " id="elapsed">0:01</time> <progress-bar> <front></front> </progress-bar> <time class="duration" id="duration">1:22:37</time> </div> </div> </bottom-player-wc> <footer class="cnn-app-display-none"> <div class="logo-follow inner"> <a href="/audio" class="logo" target="_self" aria-label="CNN Audio Home"></a> <div class="follow"> <div class="follow-text">Follow CNN</div> <div class="social-icons"> <a href="https://facebook.com/CNN" target="_blank" title="Facebook" class="social-icon" rel="noopener"> <svg class="facebook-icon" width="64" height="64" viewBox="0 0 64 64" fill="" xmlns="https://www.w3.org/2000/svg" aria-hidden="true"> <path d="M56,5.1H8c-1.6,0-3,1.4-3,3v48.8c0,1.7,1.3,3,3,3h25.9V38.7h-7v-8.3h7v-6.1 c0-7.1,4.3-10.9,10.5-10.9c3,0,5.9,0.2,6.7,0.3v7.7h-4.7c-3.4,0-4.1,1.6-4.1,4v5h8.1l-1,8.3h-7v21.2H56c1.6,0,3-1.4,3-3V8.1 C59,6.4,57.7,5.1,56,5.1"></path> </svg> </a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN" target="_blank" title="Twitter" class="social-icon" rel="noopener"> <svg class="twitter-icon" width="64" height="64" viewBox="0 0 64 64" fill="" xmlns="https://www.w3.org/2000/svg" aria-hidden="true"> <path d="M60,15.2c-2.1,0.9-4.3,1.5-6.6,1.7c2.4-1.4,4.2-3.6,5.1-6.1c-2.2,1.3-4.7,2.2-7.3,2.7 c-2.1-2.2-5.1-3.5-8.4-3.5c-6.3,0-11.5,5-11.5,11.1c0,0.9,0.1,1.7,0.3,2.5C22,23.2,13.6,18.8,7.9,12c-1,1.6-1.6,3.5-1.6,5.6 c0,3.9,2,7.3,5.1,9.2c-1.9-0.1-3.7-0.6-5.2-1.4v0.1c0,5.4,4,9.9,9.2,10.9c-1,0.3-2,0.4-3,0.4c-0.7,0-1.5-0.1-2.2-0.2 c1.5,4.4,5.7,7.6,10.7,7.7c-3.9,3-8.9,4.8-14.3,4.8c-0.9,0-1.8-0.1-2.7-0.2c5.1,3.2,11.1,5,17.6,5c21.1,0,32.7-16.9,32.7-31.6 c0-0.5,0-1,0-1.4C56.5,19.4,58.5,17.4,60,15.2"></path> </svg> </a> <a href="https://instagram.com/cnn" target="_blank" title="Instagram" class="social-icon" rel="noopener"> <svg class="instagram-icon" width="64" height="64" viewBox="0 0 64 64" fill="" xmlns="https://www.w3.org/2000/svg" aria-hidden="true"> <path d="M47,13.2c-1.9,0-3.5,1.6-3.5,3.6s1.6,3.6,3.5,3.6s3.5-1.6,3.5-3.6S49,13.2,47,13.2 L47,13.2z M31.9,23c-5.1,0-9.3,4.3-9.3,9.5s4.2,9.5,9.3,9.5s9.3-4.3,9.3-9.5S37,23,31.9,23L31.9,23z M31.9,46.7 c-7.7,0-14-6.4-14-14.2s6.3-14.2,14-14.2s14,6.4,14,14.2S39.6,46.7,31.9,46.7L31.9,46.7z M15.7,8.8c-3.9,0-7,3.2-7,7.1v33.2 c0,3.9,3.1,7.1,7,7.1h32.7c3.9,0,7-3.2,7-7.1V15.9c0-3.9-3.1-7.1-7-7.1C48.4,8.8,15.7,8.8,15.7,8.8z M48.3,60.9H15.7 C9.2,60.9,4,55.6,4,49.1V15.9C4,9.4,9.2,4.1,15.7,4.1h32.7C54.8,4.1,60,9.4,60,15.9v33.2C60,55.6,54.8,60.9,48.3,60.9L48.3,60.9z"></path> </svg> </a> </div> </div> </div> <ul class="links inner"> <li> <a href="/terms" target="_blank">Terms of Use</a> </li> <li> <a href="/privacy" target="_blank">Privacy Policy</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.warnermediaprivacy.com/policycenter/b2c/WMNS/" target="_blank">Ad Choices</a> </li> <li id="user-consent"> <user-consent-wc></user-consent-wc> </li> <li> <a href="/about" target="_blank">About Us</a> </li> <li> <a href="/tour" target="_blank">CNN Studio Tours</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://store.cnn.com" target="_blank">CNN Store</a> </li> <li> <a href="/newsletters" target="_blank">Newsletters</a> </li> <li> <a href="/transcripts" target="_blank">Transcripts</a> </li> <li> <a href="/collections" target="_blank">License Footage</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://cnnnewsource.com/" target="_blank">CNN Newsource</a> </li> <li> <a href="/sitemap.html" target="_blank">Sitemap</a> </li> </ul> <div class="copyright inner"> <span>© 2024 Cable News Network</span> <a href="https://www.turner.com/" target="_blank">A Warner Bros. 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