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<div id="p38735" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile38735"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content38735"> <h3 class="first"> <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=38735&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38735">[Historical] Legend of Wesmere (add-on version)</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=38735&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38735" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-08-31T05:51:37+00:00">August 31st, 2004, 5:51 am</time> </p> <div class="content">This is the hostorical thread for the addon version of LoW up to the 1.5.x/1.6.x mainline version.<br> Please post issues or comments about the 1.7.x/1.8.x version in this <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27650" class="postlink">thread</a>.<br> <blockquote><div><cite>Santi wrote:</cite>This is a new (epic)campaign, featuring Kalenz as the hero. The first 6 scenarios(out of some 20+) are complete, but perhaps not as well tested. It is released so there can be feedback. Scenario changes are certainely possible. Since elves live long, this can span some 500 years, starting with the arrival of Haldric and co and ending... well, certainely after Konrad. A lot of things can happen in 500 years our imagination is the limit and it's pretty wild right now, so the limiting factor is the work required. I think it is consistent with everything we have <br> in other scenarios thus far(pending Shade's ending of TROW and my playing the Dark Hordes<br> campaign- not sure if there is a role for Kalenz there)<br> <br> <br> Many thanks go to:<br> -my kids, who co-designed the campaign<br> -Dacyn, Elvish Pillager, Mad Max, Circon, Invisible Philosopher and a few more who<br> were quick to help with my WML troubles(my WML is still weak). There would have been no campaign without them.<br> <br> Overall, I have mixed feelings about this campaign: Obviously it fills in some voids, but<br> a)The problem may be that Kalenz is too<br> important in the history of Wesnoth, hence this may put constraints on future campaigns.<br> It is understandable if people resent the feel that Kalenz is under every stone in Wesnoth<br> history.<br> b)There may be some scenario changes. For example one idea is that Kalenz comes from <br> 'Snow Plains' aka ancient home of the northern elves, rather than a peninsula not really visible in the map and this is forest is burned down by the orcs, so they relocate when they return. Then one also has to explain how the sword of fire was left behind and Kalenz <br> mentions 'legend has it...' in HttT, while he should know details if he were there. On the other hand, <br> there may be an addition after scenario 2 where he meets refugees from there. Other ideas are a Kalenz-Cleodil angle -there will be some<br> Kalenz 'retirements' during the campaign corresponding to periods of peace in Wesnoth -which the campaign 'explains', so Kalenz can have a<br> peaceful family life during those times.<br> c) The maps and WML are probably too crude and should be redone. But hey, the scenarios are playable.<br> <br> <br> There are also some other technical problems introduced<br> a) In HttT, Kalenz is an elvish lord, but there is no evolution path to Elvish Lord<br> So he starts off as an elvish fighter and at some point(which is<br> not until after scenario 7) has to evolve to Elvish lord, sinc ethis is an HttT constaint. So we will need either new<br> units or some WML transformation<br> b) I have shamelessly copied Matt's Elder figures as well as EP's Elvish Prince Image<br> in the icon-hope they do not mind, if not we'll try to summon Wesnoth's great artists to <br> do something original.<br> <br> I was planning to post the entire story, but it may be too much of a spoiler, especially for the next few scenaria, which are the wackiest.<br> If there is interest, I will do that in the next posting. One thing we do NOT want is a kind of noble heritage-had too much of that already with humans!</div></blockquote></div> <div class="notice"> Last edited by <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> on August 27th, 2008, 8:01 am, edited 2 times in total. </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p38748" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile38748"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=532&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">sanna</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=532&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">425</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 5th, 2004, 9:59 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Halmstad, Sweden</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content38748"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=38748&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38748"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=38748&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38748" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=532&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">sanna</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-08-31T08:01:41+00:00">August 31st, 2004, 8:01 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Haven't played enough to give feedback on story/playability, will repost later. But it seems like great fun, had a bit of trouble keeping tabs on Landar and got him killed the first time round - hmm wish there was a way for scenario builder to overlay units that have to survive with some kind of mark to make them stand out in a crowd. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"> <br> BUT: There is a case-problem with the zip-file, I've had to go through the files and change ev'thing to lower case (except Kalenz and various Kal-maps) to match how they're called in the files. At least on my mac (10.3.3) it wont play otherwise. The Elvish Warrior unit-file won't even be included, since it is an .CFG-file, not an .cfg.<br> Also the ELVISH_W.CFG, which I renamed Elvish_Warrior.cfg ends like this:<div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>[/unit] ...several blank lines removed... get_hit_sound=ugg.wav [attack] name=sword type=blade range=short damage=15 number=2 [/attack] [/unit]</code></pre></div> I've had to remove everything after the first [/unit] in order to get the file to work.<br> Also, I can't seem to find elvish-warrior-prince.png, is this dependant on installation of another non-mainline campaign?<br> <br> EDIT: Oh, and I recommend that you add some kind of prefix to your story-tags, intro_NUM is sure to be used somewhere else, but kalenz_intro_NUM probably wont be. Also, it doesn't seem as if you are using the new merged bigmap/story format.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p38777" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile38777"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=424&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">Dacyn</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=424&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1855</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 1st, 2004, 9:34 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Texas</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content38777"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=38777&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38777"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=38777&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38777" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=424&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">Dacyn</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-08-31T10:50:28+00:00">August 31st, 2004, 10:50 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>santi wrote:</cite>a) In HttT, Kalenz is an elvish lord, but there is no evolution path to Elvish Lord</div></blockquote> What you should do in this situation is make your own unit files for an evolution path to an Elvish Lord. <blockquote><div><cite>sanna wrote:</cite>Also, I can't seem to find elvish-warrior-prince.png, is this dependant on installation of another non-mainline campaign</div></blockquote> Yes, the "Unrest in Elfland" campaign by EP.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p38780" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile38780"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content38780"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=38780&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38780"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=38780&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38780" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-08-31T10:56:31+00:00">August 31st, 2004, 10:56 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Thanks Sanna,<br> argh! I uploaded the windows version!<br> But even in the unix version, I have 7.10 -not yet upgraded to the new 8.2 format<br> If that is a problem, I must install 8.2 or 8.3 and figure out the correct<br> directory structure<br> <br> <br> Now in more detail:<br> 1) Yes, it would be nice to have units that must not die specially marked<br> (BTW, also do not let Andulias die, because he comes with you for free,<br> even though unlike Landar he does not have a special role to play later on). And yes, this is a scenario with lots of assasins in the forest, <br> so although you should win it, it is not easy to protect your important units due to the low hit probability.<br> <br> 2)Elvish-Warrior-prince is I think EP's Elvish Prince from the Unrest in Elfland campaign. Worked fine for me, but I should recheck<br> <br> So thanks for the speedy feedback. I will try to fix things ASAP.<br> Santi</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p38841" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile38841"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=532&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">sanna</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=532&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">425</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 5th, 2004, 9:59 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Halmstad, Sweden</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content38841"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=38841&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38841"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=38841&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38841" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=532&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">sanna</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-08-31T14:28:28+00:00">August 31st, 2004, 2:28 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>santi wrote:</cite>If that is a problem, I must install 8.2 or 8.3 and figure out the correct directory structure</div></blockquote> Ooops, I forgot to say that I had to add id=Elvish Elder etc in the unit-files in order for 0.8.3 to find them.<br> <br> EDIT: Also, in Elvish Treasury changed <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); 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The Dark Hordes is fairly separate from the rest of the campaigns.</div> <div id="sig38906" class="signature"><a href="http://www.galactanet.com/comic/79.htm" class="postlink">English - to - 1337 Translator</a><br> <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_laugh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing"> <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_laugh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing"></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p38909" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile38909"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content38909"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=38909&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38909"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=38909&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p38909" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-08-31T18:15:22+00:00">August 31st, 2004, 6:15 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Thanks Circon, one less thing to worry aboutjavascript:emoticon('8)')</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p39041" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile39041"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=388&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">Shade</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=388&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1111</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 18th, 2004, 11:17 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content39041"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=39041&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p39041">I don't know if this helps :)</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=39041&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p39041" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=388&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">Shade</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-01T14:27:43+00:00">September 1st, 2004, 2:27 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I don't know if this helps your campaign or not <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"> From IRC:<br> <br> <isaac> why elf units doesn't know to throw fireballs?<br> <isaac> who taught Kalenz?<br> <C****ic> isaac: he discovered that himself, without expecting it. This first lesson burnt his hair, and that's the whole story behind his funky hair-dye.<br> <silene> <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <C****ic> Some mutter it would be a wig, but not too loud for fear of receiving a fireball.<br> <br> Some names have been partially obscured to prevent receiving fireballs. . .</div> <div id="sig39041" class="signature">Note to forum users: You are in a maze of twisty little passages</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p39141" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile39141"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content39141"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=39141&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p39141"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=39141&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p39141" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-02T06:14:04+00:00">September 2nd, 2004, 6:14 am</time> </p> <div class="content">I like these suggestions! But anyway the story here will be a little different. Technically there were two choices: Either start Kalenz as something that eventually evolves to Elvish Lord or transform him to Elvish Lord(hope this can be done in WML, I have not done it yet).<br> After the big battle in scenario 7, there will be a series of wacky<br> scenaria, culminating with something happening to Kalenz that has<br> both temporary and permament effects(he comes in contact with a weird mage- so does he become an elvish freak?) So this is where he learns to throw fireballs.<br> Bt hey, any suggestion is welcome, the story is still open to changes.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p40520" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile40520"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=446&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">l'ultimo cruco</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=446&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">86</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 9th, 2004, 1:24 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Rome, Italy</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content40520"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=40520&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40520"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=40520&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40520" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=446&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">l'ultimo cruco</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-08T16:46:26+00:00">September 8th, 2004, 4:46 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Seems a problem just to me, but anyway: I can't see the signposts in your campaign. This makes winning the first scenarios a bit difficult...<br> Any ideas? <br> When I managed to reach it in the first scenario it "functioned" anyway closing the scenario with the Victory Message.<br> <br> Playing on BfW 0.8.2, MacOS 10.3.3<br> <br> PS: Where the hack is the signpost in Hostile Mountains? <br> <br> PS II: Nice campaign so far <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p40564" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile40564"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content40564"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=40564&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40564"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=40564&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40564" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-08T21:17:47+00:00">September 8th, 2004, 9:17 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">l'ultimo cruco:<br> Thanks for your comments.<br> There should be a new version coming out in a few days with hopefully better<br> compatibility(the campaign was tested under 7.10) and at least one more playable<br> scenario. With regard to the signpost questions, the first scenario signpost is<br> at x=1,y=30<br> In the second scenario it is at x= 18, y=37. This is not really relevant though, as you need to go through the trolls to get there and it's of course much faster to kill the troll leader and hence finish earlier and with more experience.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p40641" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile40641"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=446&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">l'ultimo cruco</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=446&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">86</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 9th, 2004, 1:24 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Rome, Italy</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content40641"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=40641&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40641"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=40641&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40641" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=446&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="username">l'ultimo cruco</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-09T10:14:24+00:00">September 9th, 2004, 10:14 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>santi wrote:</cite> In the second scenario it is at x= 18, y=37. This is not really relevant though, as you need to go through the trolls to get there and it's of course much faster to kill the troll leader and hence finish earlier and with more experience.</div></blockquote> Ok, thanks. I found the signpost location, plundering through the scenario file. But stepping on it's location doesn't trigger the end scenario event <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":(" title="Sad"><br> While waiting on the new release, I'll try to kill the troll leader, even if I'm a bit short of menpower...</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p40805" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile40805"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content40805"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=40805&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40805"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=40805&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40805" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-09T20:29:00+00:00">September 9th, 2004, 8:29 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">First, you need to get Kalenz to the signpost, not anyone else.<br> Second, what oS and Wesnoth version are you running?<br> For versions > 8.0 or 8.1<br> setting in the cfg files The_uprooting and Hostile_mountains<br> items/signpost instead of whatever it is should make the signposts visible<br> Last, the little island is key. Basically in this scenario you have two choices: Either <br> retreat and let the dwarves and trolls fight it for a while or (as I prefer), fight for the small island with archers. Only recruit archers and try to get some to level off<br> recruit 2 scouts initially to seize all the mountain villages fast and apart from that ONLY archers. if you need to protect your archers(especially Landar who must not die), use the scouts as cannon fodder. Fighting is preferable because<br> -you gain experience<br> -you finish early and get gold which you will need in the next scenario</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p40806" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile40806"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=342_1224664782.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Lord of Wesmere</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=342&sr=posts&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64">1320</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 6th, 2004, 12:32 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content40806"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=40806&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40806"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=40806&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64#p40806" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=342&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" style="color: #BB8888;" class="username-coloured">santi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2004-09-09T20:33:40+00:00">September 9th, 2004, 8:33 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Oops, thought you were referring to the first scenario. Yes, there was a bug in the initial version(not that I thought you could reach the signpost without killing the troll). It has been fixed in the new version and thanks for the report</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./posting.php?mode=reply&t=2911&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64" class="button" title="This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies."> <span>Locked</span> <i class="icon fa-lock fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./viewtopic.php?t=2911&sid=55fbc10f22dabb06adf26a6c4b58ce64"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button button-secondary dropdown-trigger dropdown-select"> <i class="icon fa-sort-amount-asc fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="caret"><i class="icon fa-sort-down fa-fw" 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