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(1-10)<br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</div> <div id="sig687740" class="signature"><span style="font-size:92%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Mainline Campaigns:</strong> <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=22" class="postlink">Scenario Feedback</a> • <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=38" class="postlink">Development & Overall Feedback</a><br> <strong class="text-strong">User-made Add-ons:</strong> <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=31" class="postlink">Feedback</a></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689603" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689603"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=270531&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" class="username">Vendrick</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=270531&sr=posts&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37">43</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 18th, 2024, 4:12 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689603"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=689603&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37#p689603">Re: 12. 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When escaping, Goblin Pillagers and Drakes blocking the bridge with ZoC.<br> (6) 7<br> (7) <br> Considerably harder than the old Evacuation where you could bait and then kill 2 of 3 enemy leaders on Turn 2.<br> <br> The Baneblade isn't especially useful later in the campaign so it's tolerable to trade it for a Drake leader assassination if necessary.<br> <br> The Falconer in combination with Beserk is great, reducing the chance of enemy units to hit the Baneblade Fencer to 10-20%. (The Falconer is easily my favourite Dunefolk unit - it excels in more normal battles but is still a lot of fun to use in this campaign.)<br> <br> I stopped spending early because my Dunefolk mercenaries (most significantly Hahid) lose 60% damage when my gold goes negative. There's also a couple spots where I play recklessly with veterans to no real benefit because I was trying to work against my usual playstyle and make sure I finished the scenario on time. There's a few other misplays scattered throughout and I killed the last leader on Turn 10/11, which was cutting it a little fine but overall a decent performance.<br> Pour one out for Kararm, the wild L2 Ogre that Grug recruited in Castle in the Ice. <br> <br> (EV damage taken is down (despite hits being up) because it doesn't account for Drains and the game reads the healed HP as reduced damage.)<br> <br> (As for escaping, the Sentinel Shield can be used to transfer Slow to a quick mounted unit and the Pillagers will avoid slowing the Turn 2 recalls if they have strong range attacks. Skirmisher and the Baneblade are useful for killing Drakes from blocking the bridge with ZoC. 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Evacuation</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=691079&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=691079&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37#p691079" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=141652&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" class="username">sine_nomine</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-06-18T01:48:12+00:00">June 18th, 2024, 1:48 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Invasion, 1.18.0<br> In the old version I preferred to kill all the leaders instead of fleeing. The new version seems to work better as an escape map. You still need to do a lot of fighting in order to make a path for your important units and the fighting may spread into the loyal enemy attack range so you could end up fighting a few of them. In my playthrough one of the loyal drakes took a step down to allow another unit to use the village, which expanded his attack range. Ultimately didn't end up having to sacrifice anyone important, though.<br> There is one turn where the enemies switch on defensive AI so if you have advance knowledge you can plan accordingly and take more time escaping. You need to use mages as your rearguard or else the pillagers will slow your units that can't counter.<br> Killing all the leaders looks manageable, e.g. if you use baneblade+ring to assassinate the drake and send the rest of your army towards one orc, then fight the last leader. I just haven't tried it yet. I wonder if the enemies still try to retreat if you're in the process of killing them all.<br> There was some dialogue about Dacyn's illumination turning off but it was active from the start. Cool idea though<br> The orcish sovereign in this scenario has the same name as the previous one, but he has a different appearance and different traits.<br> Nice to see the rebellion at the end of the scenario, this makes it feel like the protagonists had some impact and it's a good justification why the orcs aren't a big threat afterward.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./../download/file.php?id=97625&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37">EI-Evacuation replay 20240608-014943.gz</a></dt> <dd>(79.83 KiB) Downloaded 35 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p691110" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile691110"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=212431&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Dalas120</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=212431&sr=posts&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37">161</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> July 5th, 2020, 6:51 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content691110"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=691110&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37#p691110">Re: 12. Evacuation</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=691110&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=691110&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37#p691110" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=212431&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Dalas120</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-06-19T14:37:22+00:00">June 19th, 2024, 2:37 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">> There was some dialogue about Dacyn's illumination turning off but it was active from the start. Cool idea though<br> Should already be fixed in 1.18.1; the Illuminates ability got changed in 1.18 which broke the flickering.<br> <br> > The orcish sovereign in this scenario has the same name as the previous one, but he has a different appearance and different traits.<br> Bug; will fix.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=reply&t=57911&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./../viewtopic.php?t=57911&sid=a481cdd34c8ef075671d14beab3dfd37"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button 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