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I, and many users have previously voiced concern over the issue of languages (mainly Berber) being removed from city articles. In my two last edits, I have de-cluttered the first sentence as per MOS:FORLANG and only left the third name in the Infobox, adding a footnote. However, you reverted the edit plus the Infobox, which, as far as I am aware, is not discussed in MOS:FORLANG. </p><p>I thus suggest a consensus. Since both Algeria and Morocco have two official languages with a third de-facto one, we may agree on moving all native names to a specific section further down the article <a href="/wiki/User:Gts1300" title="User:Gts1300">Gts1300</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gts1300" title="User talk:Gts1300">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Skitash#c-Gts1300-20241012200300-Native_names_in_North_African_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gts1300-20241012200300-Native_names_in_North_African_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gts1300-20241012200300-Native_names_in_North_African_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skitash-20241022101200-Gts1300-20241012200300"></span>MOS:FORLANG explicitly states that a single equivalent name is sufficient. 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But recently I came across some Arabic sources discussing the rape of women in Gaza, and who are now pregnant with IDF soldiers' children. One example is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://omferas.com/?p=29122">this commentary</a> by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Salman_al-Dayah&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Salman al-Dayah (page does not exist)">Salman al-Dayah</a>, a university professor who has remained in northern Gaza despite the siege. He writes: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">غتصاب بعض العذارى والثيبات، وقد حصل لبعضهن حمل من علوج أهل الحرب</q>. Have you come across any other sources on this? <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vice_regent" title="User talk:Vice regent">VR</a></b> <sub>(Please <a href="/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a> on reply)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Skitash#c-Vice_regent-20241116071500-Rape_in_Gaza" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vice_regent-20241116071500-Rape_in_Gaza"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vice_regent-20241116071500-Rape_in_Gaza"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skitash-20241116113300-Vice_regent-20241116071500"></span>No, I couldn't find any additional sources on this topic. 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