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Briefly, I鈥檓 trying to convert a TensorFlow model to TFLite. This model should maintain a non-trainable state vector that I update at every inference, similar to an RNN. My issue is that when I try to convert it to TFLite, this state vector doesn鈥檛 seem to get interpreted as a quantized value, so the network adds quantization and dequantization operations every time it needs to read/write from it. The model, and corresponding Netron graph, are foun..." /> <meta name="twitter:description" content="I鈥檓 moving the discussion of this issue here. Briefly, I鈥檓 trying to convert a TensorFlow model to TFLite. This model should maintain a non-trainable state vector that I update at every inference, similar to an RNN. My issue is that when I try to convert it to TFLite, this state vector doesn鈥檛 seem to get interpreted as a quantized value, so the network adds quantization and dequantization operations every time it needs to read/write from it. The model, and corresponding Netron graph, are foun..." /> <meta property="og:article:section" content="TensorFlow" /> <meta property="og:article:section:color" content="f66f00" /> <meta property="og:article:section" content="General Discussion" /> <meta property="og:article:section:color" content="f2a346" /> <meta property="og:article:tag" content="tflite" /> <meta property="og:article:tag" content="help_request" /> <meta property="article:published_time" content="2023-01-27T04:05:17+00:00" /> <meta property="og:ignore_canonical" content="true" /> </head> <body class="crawler browser-update"> <header> <a href="/"> Build with Google AI </a> </header> <div id="main-outlet" class="wrap" role="main"> <div id="topic-title"> <h1> <a href="/t/tfliteconverter-adds-de-quantization-blocks-before-and-after-operations-on-a-weight-variable/29057">TFLiteConverter adds (de)quantization blocks before(and after) operations on a weight variable</a> </h1> <div class="topic-category" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/BreadcrumbList"> <span itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem"> <a href="/c/tensorflow/general-discussion-6/37" class="badge-wrapper bullet" itemprop="item"> <span class='badge-category-bg' style='background-color: #f66f00'></span> <span class='badge-category clear-badge'> <span class='category-name' itemprop='name'>TensorFlow</span> </span> </a> <meta itemprop="position" content="1" /> </span> <span itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem"> <a href="/c/tensorflow/general-discussion-6/37" class="badge-wrapper bullet" itemprop="item"> <span class='badge-category-bg' style='background-color: #f2a346'></span> <span class='badge-category clear-badge'> <span class='category-name' itemprop='name'>General Discussion</span> </span> </a> <meta itemprop="position" content="2" /> </span> </div> <div class="topic-category"> <div class='discourse-tags list-tags'> <a href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/tag/tflite' class='discourse-tag' rel="tag">tflite</a>, <a href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/tag/help_request' class='discourse-tag' rel="tag">help_request</a> </div> </div> </div> <div itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/DiscussionForumPosting'> <meta itemprop='headline' content='TFLiteConverter adds (de)quantization blocks before(and after) operations on a weight variable'> <link itemprop='url' href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/tfliteconverter-adds-de-quantization-blocks-before-and-after-operations-on-a-weight-variable/29057'> <meta itemprop='datePublished' content='2023-01-27T04:05:17Z'> <meta itemprop='articleSection' content='General Discussion'> <meta itemprop='keywords' content='tflite, help_request'> <div itemprop='publisher' itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Organization"> <meta itemprop='name' content='Build with Google AI'> <div itemprop='logo' itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject"> <meta itemprop='url' content='https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/googleaitrial/original/1X/9c9b743566b5ef0d0701ebba72bf83038f42ea0b.png'> </div> </div> <div id='post_1' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/u/Malek_Itani'><span itemprop='name'>Malek_Itani</span></a> </span> <link itemprop="mainEntityOfPage" href="https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/tfliteconverter-adds-de-quantization-blocks-before-and-after-operations-on-a-weight-variable/29057"> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time datetime='2023-01-27T04:05:17Z' class='post-time'> January 27, 2023, 4:05am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2023-01-28T00:07:56Z'> <span itemprop='position'>1</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>I鈥檓 moving the discussion of <a href="https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/59390" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">this issue</a> here.</p> <p>Briefly, I鈥檓 trying to convert a TensorFlow model to TFLite. This model should maintain a non-trainable state vector that I update at every inference, similar to an RNN. My issue is that when I try to convert it to TFLite, this state vector doesn鈥檛 seem to get interpreted as a quantized value, so the network adds quantization and dequantization operations every time it needs to read/write from it.</p> <p>The model, and corresponding Netron graph, are found in the referenced GitHub issue. They can be found and reproduced with this <a href="https://colab.research.google.com/gist/pjpratik/1d2dc72a5339b2f14c96c10e92dc9453/59390.ipynb" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">gist</a>.</p> <p>Ultimately, I would like to deploy this on a Coral EdgeTPU, but I would like to minimize unnecessary ops, such as the quantize/dequantize blocks. This should be possible since I want the state vector to be int8 and not float32 in the TFLIte model. How can I do that?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_3' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/u/chunduriv'><span itemprop='name'>chunduriv</span></a> </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2023-02-17T07:52:01Z' class='post-time'> February 17, 2023, 7:52am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2023-02-17T07:52:01Z'> <span itemprop='position'>3</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p><a class="mention" href="/u/malek_itani">@Malek_Itani</a>,</p> <p>Welcome to the Tensorflow Forum!</p> <p>Sorry for the delay in responding. We see there is an active discussion about this issue here <a href="https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/59390">#59390</a>.</p> <p>Please let us know if you need any assistance here.</p> <p>Thank you!</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_4' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/u/Malek_Itani'><span itemprop='name'>Malek_Itani</span></a> </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2023-02-18T00:45:46Z' class='post-time'> February 18, 2023, 12:45am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2023-02-18T00:45:46Z'> <span itemprop='position'>4</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Hi <a class="mention" href="/u/chunduriv">@chunduriv</a></p> <p>Thank you for the reply. I started this discussion here out of a suggestion from, what was then, the issue assignee to the GitHub issue you鈥檝e linked. I still haven鈥檛 found a solution to the problem. If you have ideas or insights, I would love to hear them.</p> <p>Thank you</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> </div> <div id="related-topics" class="more-topics__list " role="complementary" aria-labelledby="related-topics-title"> <h3 id="related-topics-title" class="more-topics__list-title"> Related topics </h3> <div class="topic-list-container" itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/ItemList'> <meta itemprop='itemListOrder' content='http://schema.org/ItemListOrderDescending'> <table class='topic-list'> <thead> <tr> <th>Topic</th> <th></th> <th class="replies">Replies</th> <th class="views">Views</th> <th>Activity</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="topic-list-item" id="topic-list-item-32106"> <td class="main-link" itemprop='itemListElement' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/ListItem'> <meta itemprop='position' content='1'> <span class="link-top-line"> <a itemprop='url' href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/doesnt-tflite-micros-dequantize-operation-support-float16/32106' class='title raw-link raw-topic-link'>Doesn&#39;t TFLite-micro&#39;s Dequantize operation support float16?</a> </span> <div class="link-bottom-line"> <a href='/c/tensorflow/general-discussion-6/37' class='badge-wrapper bullet'> <span class='badge-category-bg' style='background-color: #f2a346'></span> <span class='badge-category clear-badge'> <span class='category-name'>General Discussion</span> </span> </a> <div class="discourse-tags"> <a href='https://discuss.ai.google.dev/tag/tflite' class='discourse-tag'>tflite</a> ,&nbsp; 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