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href="/wiki/Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel"><span>Lezen</span></a></li><li id="ca-edit" class="istalk vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel&action=edit" title="Broncode van deze pagina bewerken [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Brontekst bewerken</span></a></li><li id="ca-history" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel&action=history" title="Eerdere versies van deze pagina [h]" accesskey="h"><span>Geschiedenis weergeven</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Paginahulpmiddelen"> <div id="vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-tools-dropdown" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Hulpmiddelen" > <label id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-label" 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data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Uiterlijk</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">naar zijbalk verplaatsen</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">verbergen</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Uit Wikipedia, de vrije encyclopedie</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-pageframe-latestcomment">Laatste reactie: <a href="#c-Apdency-20220904121000-Bertux-20220904115800">2 jaar geleden</a> door Apdency in het onderwerp <a href="#-e?">-e?</a></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="nl" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="-e?" data-mw-thread-id="h--e?-20220904071500"><span id="-e.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--e?-20220904071500"></span>-e?<span data-mw-comment-end="h--e?-20220904071500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel&action=edit&section=1" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: -e?"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Apdency-20220904121000-Bertux-20220904115800">2 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Condor3d" title="Gebruiker:Condor3d"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20220904071500--e?"></span>Condor3d</a>, had dat niet moeten zijn <a href="/wiki/Fries_kaatsspel" title="Fries kaatsspel">Fries kaatsspel</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fries_kaatsen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fries kaatsen (de pagina bestaat niet)">Fries kaatsen</a>? Mij lijkt die -e ongrammaticaal als er geen lidwoord voor staat <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel#c-Bertux-20220904071500--e?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 sep 2022 09:15 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20220904071500--e?"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20220904071500--e?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Condor3d-20220904094300-Bertux-20220904071500"></span>De paginatitel begint in het algemeen niet met een lidwoord. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fries_kaatsen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fries kaatsen (de pagina bestaat niet)">Fries kaatsen</a> lijkt mij een betere naam, cf. <a href="/wiki/Fries_dammen" title="Fries dammen">Fries dammen</a>. Fries kaatsspel lijkt me meer een categorienaam. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Condor3d" title="Gebruiker:Condor3d">Condor3d</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Condor3d" title="Overleg gebruiker:Condor3d">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel#c-Condor3d-20220904094300-Bertux-20220904071500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 sep 2022 11:43 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Condor3d-20220904094300-Bertux-20220904071500"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Condor3d-20220904094300-Bertux-20220904071500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20220904104700-Condor3d-20220904094300"></span>Ook maar even de mening van <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Fyke_B%C3%B4le" title="Gebruiker:Fyke Bôle">Fyke Bôle</a> vragen. <i>Kaatsen</i> is prima als het vooral over de sport gaat, <i>kaatsspel</i> suggereert voor mij dat ook de geschiedenis en cultuur behandeld wordt <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel#c-Bertux-20220904104700-Condor3d-20220904094300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 sep 2022 12:47 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20220904104700-Condor3d-20220904094300"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20220904104700-Condor3d-20220904094300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300-Bertux-20220904104700"></span>Er zijn nogal wat pagina's die met <b>het</b> of <b>de</b> beginnen, dus wat dat betreft was er geen reden om bij 'Het Friese kaatsspel' het lidwoord weg te halen. De KNKB noemt in de opsomming van enkele varianten deze variant 'het Friese kaatsspel' en dat had ik van deze bron overgenomen. Het Fries kaatsspel is zeker geen categorie, het is een met duidelijke spelregels gedefinieerde sport. Fries kaatsen is voor mijn taalgevoel het bezig zijn met het beoefenen van het Friese kaatsspel. (Gaan we Fries dammen of gewoon dammen?) Het belangrijkste is dat de lezers die zijn geïnteresseerd in het Friese kaatsspel de pagina weten te vinden. Als het overnemen van een term uit een aangegeven bron niet goed genoeg wordt bevonden laat ik de taalkundige fijnproeverij graag over aan deskundigen. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Fyke_B%C3%B4le" title="Gebruiker:Fyke Bôle">Fyke Bôle</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Fyke_B%C3%B4le" title="Overleg gebruiker:Fyke Bôle">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel#c-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300-Bertux-20220904104700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 sep 2022 13:23 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300-Bertux-20220904104700"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300-Bertux-20220904104700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20220904115800-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300"></span>Alleen als het lidwoord onderdeel is van een <a href="/wiki/Eigennaam" title="Eigennaam">eigennaam</a>, zoals bij <a href="/wiki/De_Volkskrant" title="De Volkskrant">de Volkskrant</a>, <a href="/wiki/Den_Helder" title="Den Helder">Den Helder</a> en <a href="/wiki/Het_Nutshuis" title="Het Nutshuis">Het Nutshuis</a> nemen we dat over. Bij andere eigennamen niet, zoals de <a href="/wiki/Waal_(rivier)" title="Waal (rivier)">Waal</a>, de <a href="/wiki/Maas" title="Maas">Maas</a> en het <a href="/wiki/Sneekermeer" title="Sneekermeer">Sneekermeer</a>, ondanks dat die altijd een lidwoord moeten hebben. Nu <i>kaatsen</i> en <i>kaatsspel</i> met een kleine letter worden geschreven moeten we aannemen dat het geen eigennamen zijn maar <a href="/wiki/Soortnaam" title="Soortnaam">soortnamen</a>. Bij mijn weten krijgen die nooit een titel met een lidwoord <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Fries_kaatsspel#c-Bertux-20220904115800-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 sep 2022 13:58 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20220904115800-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20220904115800-Fyke_Bôle-20220904112300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apdency-20220904121000-Bertux-20220904115800"></span>"Fries kaatsspel" lijkt mij inderdaad de beste titel. 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