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If he should attack your troops first, whoever hears about it will say, &#8216There has been a slaughter among the troops who follow Absalom.&#8217 <a href="/nlt/2_samuel/17.htm">New Living Translation</a> He has probably already hidden in some pit or cave. And when he comes out and attacks and a few of your men fall, there will be panic among your troops, and the word will spread that Absalom’s men are being slaughtered. <a href="/esv/2_samuel/17.htm">English Standard Version</a> Behold, even now he has hidden himself in one of the pits or in some other place. And as soon as some of the people fall at the first attack, whoever hears it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/bsb/2_samuel/17.htm">Berean Standard Bible</a> Surely by now he is hiding in a cave or some other location. If some of your troops fall first, whoever hears of it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the troops who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/kjv/2_samuel/17.htm">King James Bible</a> Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place: and it will come to pass, when some of them be overthrown at the first, that whosoever heareth it will say, There is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom. <a href="/nkjv/2_samuel/17.htm">New King James Version</a> Surely by now he is hidden in some pit, or in some other place. And it will be, when some of them are overthrown at the first, that whoever hears it will say, ‘There is a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/nasb_/2_samuel/17.htm">New American Standard Bible</a> Behold, he has now hidden himself in one of the ravines, or in another place; and it will be that when he falls on them at the first attack, whoever hears it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom!’ <a href="/nasb/2_samuel/17.htm">NASB 1995</a> &#8220Behold, he has now hidden himself in one of the caves or in another place; and it will be when he falls on them at the first attack, that whoever hears it will say, &#8216There has been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.&#8217 <a href="/nasb77/2_samuel/17.htm">NASB 1977 </a> “Behold, he has now hidden himself in one of the caves or in another place; and it will be when he falls on them at the first attack, that whoever hears it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/lsb/2_samuel/17.htm">Legacy Standard Bible </a> Behold, he has now hidden himself in one of the caves or in another place; and it will be when he falls on them at the first attack, that whoever hears it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/amp/2_samuel/17.htm">Amplified Bible</a> Behold, he has hidden himself [even] now in one of the ravines or in another place; and when some of your troops fall at the first attack, whoever hears about it will say, ‘There has been a defeat among the people who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/csb/2_samuel/17.htm">Christian Standard Bible</a> He’s probably already hiding in one of the caves or some other place. If some of our troops fall first, someone is sure to hear and say, ‘There’s been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.’ <a href="/hcsb/2_samuel/17.htm">Holman Christian Standard Bible</a> He&#8217s probably already hiding in one of the caves or some other place. If some of our troops fall first, someone is sure to hear and say, &#8216There&#8217s been a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.&#8217 <a href="/asv/2_samuel/17.htm">American Standard Version</a> Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place: and it will come to pass, when some of them are fallen at the first, that whosoever heareth it will say, There is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom. <a href="/cev/2_samuel/17.htm">Contemporary English Version</a> He has probably already found a hiding place in a cave or somewhere else. As soon as anyone hears that some of your soldiers have been killed, everyone will think your whole army has been destroyed. <a href="/erv/2_samuel/17.htm">English Revised Version</a> Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place: and it will come to pass, when some of them be fallen at the first, that whosoever heareth it will say, There is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom. <a href="/gwt/2_samuel/17.htm">GOD'S WORD® Translation</a> He has already hidden in one of the ravines or some other place. If some of our soldiers are killed in the initial attack, others will definitely hear about it and say, 'The troops that support Absalom have been defeated.' <a href="/gnt/2_samuel/17.htm">Good News Translation</a> Right now he is probably hiding in a cave or some other place. As soon as David attacks your men, whoever hears about it will say that your men have been defeated. <a href="/isv/2_samuel/17.htm">International Standard Version</a> Look! He's probably already hiding in a cave or someplace like that. If the first attack fails, people will hear about it and think, 'Absalom's army is losing!' <a href="/msb/2_samuel/17.htm">Majority Standard Bible</a> Surely by now he is hiding in a cave or some other location. If some of your troops fall first, whoever hears of it will say, ?There has been a slaughter among the troops who follow Absalom.? <a href="/net/2_samuel/17.htm">NET Bible</a> At this very moment he is hiding out in one of the caves or in some other similar place. If it should turn out that he attacks our troops first, whoever hears about it will say, 'Absalom's army has been slaughtered!' <a href="/nheb/2_samuel/17.htm">New Heart English Bible</a> Look, he is now hidden in some pit, or in some other place. And it will happen when some of them have fallen first, that whoever hears it will say, ?There is a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom.? <a href="/wbt/2_samuel/17.htm">Webster's Bible Translation</a> Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place: and it will come to pass, when some of them are overthrown at the first, that whosoever heareth it will say, There is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom. <a href="/web/2_samuel/17.htm">World English Bible</a> Behold, he is now hidden in some pit, or in some other place. It will happen, when some of them have fallen at the first, that whoever hears it will say, ‘There is a slaughter among the people who follow Absalom!’ <div class="vheading2">Literal Translations</div><a href="/lsv/2_samuel/17.htm">Literal Standard Version</a> behold, now, he is hidden in one of the pits, or in one of the places, and it has been at the falling among them at the commencement, that the hearer has heard and said, There has been a slaughter among the people who [are] after Absalom; <a href="/ylt/2_samuel/17.htm">Young's Literal Translation</a> lo, now, he is hidden in one of the pits, or in one of the places, and it hath been, at the falling among them at the commencement, that the hearer hath heard, and said, There hath been a slaughter among the people who are after Absalom; <a href="/slt/2_samuel/17.htm">Smith's Literal Translation</a> Behold now, he hid in one of the pits, or in one of the places: and it being when there fell among them in the beginning, and he hearing heard and said, was a slaughter among the people which are after Absalom.<div class="vheading2">Catholic Translations</div><a href="/drb/2_samuel/17.htm">Douay-Rheims Bible</a> Perhaps he now lieth hid in pits, or in some other place where he list: and when any one shall fall at the first, every one that heareth it shall say: There is a slaughter among the people that followed Absalom. <a href="/cpdv/2_samuel/17.htm">Catholic Public Domain Version</a> Perhaps now he hides in pits, or in another place, wherever he wills. And if by chance, in the beginning, anyone may fall, whoever hears about it, no matter what he has heard, will say, ‘There is a slaughter among the people who were following Absalom.’ <a href="/nabre/2_samuel/17.htm">New American Bible</a> Even now he lies hidden in one of the caves or in one of his other places. And if some of our soldiers should fall at the first attack, whoever hears of it will say, ‘Absalom’s followers have been slaughtered.’ <a href="/nrsvce/2_samuel/17.htm">New Revised Standard Version</a> Even now he has hidden himself in one of the pits, or in some other place. And when some of our troops fall at the first attack, whoever hears it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the troops who follow Absalom.’<div class="vheading2">Translations from Aramaic</div><a href="/lamsa/2_samuel/17.htm">Lamsa Bible</a> Behold now, he has hidden in one of the countries or in some other place; and when we attack them according to the first counsel, then the rumor will spread that there has been a great slaughter among the people who follow Absalom. <a href="/hpbt/2_samuel/17.htm">Peshitta Holy Bible Translated</a> Behold, he is hidden in one of the countries or in one of the places, and whenever we fall on them, as at the first, and the report is heard that there has been slaughter among the people who follow after Abishlum<div class="vheading2">OT Translations</div><a href="/jps/2_samuel/17.htm">JPS Tanakh 1917</a> Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some place; and it will come to pass, when they fall upon them at the first, and whosoever heareth it shall say: There is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom; <a href="/sep/2_samuel/17.htm">Brenton Septuagint Translation</a> For, behold, he is now hidden in one of the hills or in some other place: and it shall come to pass when he falls upon them at the beginning, that some one will certainly hear, and say, There has been a slaughter among the people that follow after Abessalom. <a href="/parallel/2_samuel/17-9.htm">Additional Translations ...</a></div></div></div><div id="centbox"><div class="padcent"><a name="audio" id="audio"></a><div class="vheadingv">Audio Bible</div><iframe width="100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_0ajZHUzMKw?start=4816" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> <div class="vheadingv">Context</div><a href="/bsb/2_samuel/17.htm">Hushai Counters Ahithophel's Advice</a> …8He continued, “You know your father and his men. They are mighty men, and as fierce as a wild bear robbed of her cubs. Moreover, your father is a man of war who will not spend the night with the troops. 9<a href="/hebrew/2009.htm" title="2009: hin·nêh (Interjection) -- Lo! behold! Prolongation for hen; lo!">Surely</a> <a href="/hebrew/6258.htm" title="6258: ‘at·tāh (Adv) -- Now. From eth; at this time, whether adverb, conjunction or expletive.">by now</a> <a href="/hebrew/1931.htm" title="1931: hū- (Pro-3ms) -- He, she, it. ">he</a> <a href="/hebrew/2244.htm" title="2244: neḥ·bā (V-Nifal-Prtcpl-ms) -- To withdraw, hide. A primitive root; to secrete.">is hiding</a> <a href="/hebrew/259.htm" title="259: bə·’a·ḥaṯ (Prep-b:: Number-fsc) -- One. A numeral from 'achad; properly, united, i.e. One; or first.">in a</a> <a href="/hebrew/6354.htm" title="6354: hap·pə·ḥā·ṯîm (Art:: N-mp) -- A pit. Probably from an unused root apparently meaning to dig; a pit, especially for catching animals.">cave</a> <a href="/hebrew/176.htm" title="176: ’ōw (Conj) -- Or. Presumed to be the constructive or genitival form of -av; short for 'avvah; desire; hence or, also if.">or</a> <a href="/hebrew/259.htm" title="259: bə·’a·ḥaḏ (Prep-b:: Number-msc) -- One. A numeral from 'achad; properly, united, i.e. One; or first.">some other</a> <a href="/hebrew/4725.htm" title="4725: ham·mə·qō·w·mōṯ (Art:: N-mp) -- Or maqom; also mqowmah; or mqomah; from quwm; properly, a standing, i.e. A spot; but used widely of a locality; also of a condition.">location.</a> <a href="/hebrew/5307.htm" title="5307: kin·p̄ōl (Prep-k:: V-Qal-Inf) -- To fall, lie. A primitive root; to fall, in a great variety of applications.">If some of your troops fall</a> <a href="/hebrew/bā·hem (Prep:: 3mp) -- "></a> <a href="/hebrew/8462.htm" title="8462: bat·tə·ḥil·lāh (Prep-b, Art:: N-fs) -- A beginning. From chalal in the sense of opening; a commencement; rel. Original.">first,</a> <a href="/hebrew/8085.htm" title="8085: wə·šā·ma‘ (Conj-w:: V-Qal-ConjPerf-3ms) -- To hear. A primitive root; to hear intelligently.">whoever hears of it</a> <a href="/hebrew/8085.htm" title="8085: haš·šō·mê·a‘ (Art:: V-Qal-Prtcpl-ms) -- To hear. A primitive root; to hear intelligently."></a> <a href="/hebrew/559.htm" title="559: wə·’ā·mar (Conj-w:: V-Qal-ConjPerf-3ms) -- To utter, say. A primitive root; to say.">will say,</a> <a href="/hebrew/1961.htm" title="1961: hā·yə·ṯāh (V-Qal-Perf-3fs) -- To fall out, come to pass, become, be. A primitive root; to exist, i.e. Be or become, come to pass.">‘There</a> <a href="/hebrew/1961.htm" title="1961: wə·hā·yāh (Conj-w:: V-Qal-ConjPerf-3ms) -- To fall out, come to pass, become, be. A primitive root; to exist, i.e. Be or become, come to pass.">has been</a> <a href="/hebrew/4046.htm" title="4046: mag·gê·p̄āh (N-fs) -- A blow, slaughter, plague, pestilence. From nagaph; a pestilence; by analogy, defeat.">a slaughter</a> <a href="/hebrew/5971.htm" title="5971: bā·‘ām (Prep-b, Art:: N-ms) -- From amam; a people; specifically, a tribe; hence troops or attendants; figuratively, a flock.">among the troops</a> <a href="/hebrew/834.htm" title="834: ’ă·šer (Pro-r) -- Who, which, that. A primitive relative pronoun; who, which, what, that; also when, where, how, because, in order that, etc.">who</a> <a href="/hebrew/310.htm" title="310: ’a·ḥă·rê (Prep) -- The hind or following part. From 'achar; properly, the hind part; generally used as an adverb or conjunction, after.">follow</a> <a href="/hebrew/53.htm" title="53: ’aḇ·šā·lōm (N-proper-ms) -- Or babshalowm; from 'ab and shalowm; father of peace; Abshalom, a son of David; also a later Israelite.">Absalom.’</a> 10Then even the most valiant soldier with the heart of a lion will melt with fear, because all Israel knows that your father is a mighty man who has valiant men with him.…<div class="cred"><a href="//berean.bible">Berean Standard Bible</a> · <a href="//berean.bible/downloads.htm">Download</a></div> <a name="crossref" id="crossref"></a><div class="vheading">Cross References</div><div id="crf"><a href="/judges/9-32.htm">Judges 9:32-33</a> Now then, tonight you and the people with you are to come and lie in wait in the fields. / And in the morning at sunrise, get up and advance against the city. When Gaal and his men come out against you, do to them whatever you are able.” <a href="/1_samuel/23-23.htm">1 Samuel 23:23</a> Observe and find out all the places where he hides. Then come back to me with certainty, and I will go with you. If he is in the land, I will search him out among all the clans of Judah.” <a href="/1_samuel/22-1.htm">1 Samuel 22:1</a> So David left Gath and took refuge in the cave of Adullam. When his brothers and the rest of his father’s household heard about it, they went down to him there. <a href="/1_samuel/24-3.htm">1 Samuel 24:3</a> Soon Saul came to the sheepfolds along the road, where there was a cave, and he went in to relieve himself. And David and his men were hiding in the recesses of the cave. <a href="/1_samuel/26-1.htm">1 Samuel 26:1-2</a> Then the Ziphites came to Saul at Gibeah and said, “Is not David hiding on the hill of Hachilah, opposite Jeshimon?” / So Saul, accompanied by three thousand chosen men of Israel, went down to the Wilderness of Ziph to search for David there. <a href="/joshua/8-4.htm">Joshua 8:4-7</a> with these orders: “Pay attention. You are to lie in ambush behind the city, not too far from it. All of you must be ready. / Then I and all the troops with me will advance on the city. When they come out against us as they did the first time, we will flee from them. / They will pursue us until we have drawn them away from the city, for they will say, ‘The Israelites are running away from us as they did before.’ So as we flee from them, ... <a href="/1_kings/20-29.htm">1 Kings 20:29-30</a> For seven days the armies camped opposite each other, and on the seventh day the battle ensued, and the Israelites struck down the Arameans—a hundred thousand foot soldiers in one day. / The rest of them fled into the city of Aphek, where the wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the remaining men. Ben-hadad also fled to the city and hid in an inner room. <a href="/2_kings/2-24.htm">2 Kings 2:24</a> Then he turned around, looked at them, and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Suddenly two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. <a href="/2_chronicles/18-33.htm">2 Chronicles 18:33-34</a> However, a certain man drew his bow without taking special aim, and he struck the king of Israel between the joints of his armor. So the king said to his charioteer, “Turn around and take me out of the battle, for I am badly wounded!” / The battle raged throughout that day, and the king of Israel propped himself up in his chariot facing the Arameans until evening. And at sunset he died. <a href="/psalms/10-9.htm">Psalm 10:9</a> He lies in wait like a lion in a thicket; he lurks to seize the oppressed; he catches the lowly in his net. <a href="/psalms/17-12.htm">Psalm 17:12</a> like a lion greedy for prey, like a young lion lurking in ambush. <a href="/psalms/91-1.htm">Psalm 91:1-3</a> He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. / I will say to the LORD, “You are my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” / Surely He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler, and from the deadly plague. <a href="/proverbs/1-11.htm">Proverbs 1:11-12</a> If they say, “Come along, let us lie in wait for blood, let us ambush the innocent without cause, / let us swallow them alive like Sheol, and whole like those descending into the Pit. <a href="/isaiah/10-18.htm">Isaiah 10:18-19</a> The splendor of its forests and orchards, both soul and body, it will completely destroy, as a sickness consumes a man. / The remaining trees of its forests will be so few that a child could count them. <a href="/jeremiah/49-8.htm">Jeremiah 49:8</a> Turn and run! Lie low, O dwellers of Dedan, for I will bring disaster on Esau at the time I punish him.</div> <a name="tsk" id="tsk"><div class="vheading">Treasury of Scripture</div>Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place: and it will come to pass, when some of them be overthrown at the first, that whoever hears it will say, There is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom.he is hid<a href="/judges/20-33.htm">Judges 20:33</a> And all the men of Israel rose up out of their place, and put themselves in array at Baaltamar: and the liers in wait of Israel came forth out of their places, even out of the meadows of Gibeah.<a href="/1_samuel/22-1.htm">1 Samuel 22:1</a> David therefore departed thence, and escaped to the cave Adullam: and when his brethren and all his father's house heard it, they went down thither to him.<a href="/1_samuel/24-3.htm">1 Samuel 24:3</a> And he came to the sheepcotes by the way, where was a cave; and Saul went in to cover his feet: and David and his men remained in the sides of the cave.some<a href="/joshua/7-5.htm">Joshua 7:5</a> And the men of Ai smote of them about thirty and six men: for they chased them from before the gate even unto Shebarim, and smote them in the going down: wherefore the hearts of the people melted, and became as water.<a href="/joshua/8-6.htm">Joshua 8:6</a> (For they will come out after us) till we have drawn them from the city; for they will say, They flee before us, as at the first: therefore we will flee before them.<a href="/judges/20-32.htm">Judges 20:32</a> And the children of Benjamin said, They are smitten down before us, as at the first. But the children of Israel said, Let us flee, and draw them from the city unto the highways.over thrown [heb] fallen <div class="vheading">Jump to Previous</div><a href="/2_samuel/17-7.htm">Absalom</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-7.htm">Ab'salom</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-2.htm">Attack</a> <a href="/1_samuel/24-10.htm">Cave</a> <a href="/1_samuel/13-6.htm">Caves</a> <a href="/2_samuel/14-11.htm">Fall</a> <a href="/2_samuel/3-38.htm">Fallen</a> <a href="/2_samuel/3-34.htm">Falls</a> <a href="/2_samuel/7-10.htm">First</a> <a href="/1_samuel/31-2.htm">Follow</a> <a href="/2_samuel/11-26.htm">Heareth</a> <a href="/1_samuel/16-2.htm">Hears</a> <a href="/1_samuel/20-24.htm">Hid</a> <a href="/1_samuel/25-20.htm">Hidden</a> <a href="/1_samuel/30-1.htm">Overthrown</a> <a href="/numbers/16-33.htm">Pit</a> <a href="/2_samuel/1-1.htm">Slaughter</a> <a href="/2_samuel/16-6.htm">Troops</a><div class="vheading2">Jump to Next</div><a href="/2_samuel/17-14.htm">Absalom</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-15.htm">Ab'salom</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-12.htm">Attack</a> <a href="/2_samuel/23-13.htm">Cave</a> <a href="/1_kings/18-4.htm">Caves</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-12.htm">Fall</a> <a href="/2_samuel/22-39.htm">Fallen</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-12.htm">Falls</a> <a href="/2_samuel/18-27.htm">First</a> <a href="/2_samuel/20-2.htm">Follow</a> <a href="/2_samuel/22-7.htm">Heareth</a> <a href="/2_kings/19-7.htm">Hears</a> <a href="/2_samuel/18-13.htm">Hid</a> <a href="/2_samuel/18-13.htm">Hidden</a> <a href="/2_chronicles/14-13.htm">Overthrown</a> <a href="/2_samuel/18-17.htm">Pit</a> <a href="/2_samuel/18-7.htm">Slaughter</a> <a href="/2_samuel/18-16.htm">Troops</a><div class="vheading2">2 Samuel 17</div>1. <a href="/2_samuel/17-1.htm">Ahithophel's counsel is overthrown by Hushai's</a> 15. <a href="/2_samuel/17-15.htm">Secret intelligence is sent unto David</a> 23. <a href="/2_samuel/17-23.htm">Ahithophel hangs himself</a> 25. <a href="/2_samuel/17-25.htm">Amasa is made captain</a> 27. <a href="/2_samuel/17-27.htm">David at Mahanaim is furnished with provisions</a> </div></div><div id="mdd"><div align="center"><div class="bot2"><table align="center" width="100%"><tr><td><div align="center"> <script id="3d27ed63fc4348d5b062c4527ae09445"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=51ce25d5-1a8c-424a-8695-4bd48c750f35&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script> <script id="b817b7107f1d4a7997da1b3c33457e03"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=cb0edd8b-b416-47eb-8c6d-3cc96561f7e8&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-2'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-0' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-3'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-1' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div align="center" id='div-gpt-ad-1531425649696-0'> </div> <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:inline-block;width:200px;height:200px" data-ad-client="ca-pub-3753401421161123" data-ad-slot="3592799687"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> </div> </td></tr></table></div></div></div><div id="combox"><div class="padcom"><a name="study" id="study"></a><div class="vheading"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="99%" valign="top"><a href="/study/2_samuel/17.htm">Study Bible</a></td><td width="1%" valign="top"><a href="/study/2_samuel/" title="Book Summary and Study">Book ◦</a> <a href="/study/chapters/2_samuel/17.htm" title="Chapter summary and Study">Chapter </a></tr></table></div>Surely by now he is hiding in a cave or some other location. This phrase reflects the strategic cunning of David, who often used the terrain of Israel to his advantage. Caves and other natural hideouts were common in the Judean wilderness, as seen in David's earlier flight from Saul (<a href="/1_samuel/22.htm">1 Samuel 22:1</a>). The use of caves as hiding places is a recurring theme in David's life, symbolizing refuge and divine protection. This also foreshadows the ultimate refuge found in Christ, who is often seen as a rock and fortress (<a href="/psalms/18-2.htm">Psalm 18:2</a>).If some of your troops fall first, The concern here is for the morale and perception of Absalom's forces. In ancient warfare, the initial success or failure in battle could significantly impact the outcome. The fall of troops early in a conflict could lead to panic and retreat, as seen in other biblical battles such as the defeat of Israel at Ai (<a href="/joshua/7-5.htm">Joshua 7:5</a>). This highlights the importance of leadership and the psychological aspects of warfare.whoever hears of it will say, This phrase underscores the power of reputation and word of mouth in the ancient world. News of battle outcomes spread quickly, affecting the morale and decisions of both sides. The influence of reports and rumors is evident throughout scripture, such as the spies' report in <a href="/numbers/13.htm">Numbers 13</a>, which swayed the entire nation of Israel.‘There has been a slaughter among the troops who follow Absalom.’ The potential for a slaughter among Absalom's troops serves as a warning of the consequences of rebellion against God's anointed king, David. This reflects the broader biblical theme of divine justice and the futility of opposing God's will. The phrase also foreshadows the eventual downfall of Absalom, who, despite his initial success, ultimately faces defeat and death (<a href="/2_samuel/18-9.htm">2 Samuel 18:9-15</a>). This can be seen as a type of Christ's ultimate victory over sin and rebellion.<div class="vheading2">Persons / Places / Events</div>1. <a href="/topical/d/david.htm">David</a> The anointed king of Israel, currently in a precarious position due to his son Absalom's rebellion. 2. <a href="/topical/a/absalom.htm">Absalom</a> David's son, who has usurped the throne and is seeking to solidify his power by pursuing David. 3. <a href="/topical/h/hushai.htm">Hushai</a> David's loyal friend and spy, who provides counsel to Absalom to counteract Ahithophel's advice. 4. <a href="/topical/a/ahithophel.htm">Ahithophel</a> A former counselor of David who has defected to Absalom, known for his wise counsel. 5. <a href="/topical/c/caves.htm">Caves</a> Natural hiding places in the rugged terrain of Israel, often used for refuge and strategic advantage.<div class="vheading2">Teaching Points</div><a href="/topical/g/god's_sovereignty_in_human_affairs.htm">God's Sovereignty in Human Affairs</a> Despite human plans and counsel, God's purposes prevail. David's situation reminds us that God is in control, even when circumstances seem dire. <a href="/topical/t/the_importance_of_wise_counsel.htm">The Importance of Wise Counsel</a> Hushai's role highlights the value of having godly and wise advisors. Seek counsel that aligns with biblical principles. <a href="/topical/t/trust_in_god's_protection.htm">Trust in God's Protection</a> Like David, we can trust God to be our refuge and strength, even when we are "hiding in caves" of life's challenges. <a href="/topical/t/the_consequences_of_rebellion.htm">The Consequences of Rebellion</a> Absalom's rebellion against his father serves as a warning about the destructive nature of pride and ambition. <a href="/topical/t/the_power_of_prayer.htm">The Power of Prayer</a> In times of distress, turning to God in prayer, as David often did, is crucial for guidance and peace.<div class="vheading2">Lists and Questions</div><a href="/top10/lessons_from_2_samuel_17.htm">Top 10 Lessons from 2 Samuel 17</a> <a href="/q/who_is_jesus,_the_son_of_mary.htm">Who was Amasa in the Bible?</a> <a href="/q/is_absalom's_hair_in_the_tree_plausible.htm">How did Absalom become caught by his head or hair in the oak tree (2 Samuel 18:9), and does this detail conflict with scientific plausibility?</a> <a href="/q/is_swift_secret_messaging_in_2_sam_17_15-21_realistic.htm">How realistic is the swift exchange of secret messages in 2 Samuel 17:15-21, given the distance and security risks involved in ancient Israel?</a> <a href="/q/why_did_absalom_reject_ahithophel's_advice.htm">If Hushai's counsel (2 Samuel 17:7-14) was so clearly delayed and risky, why would Absalom reject Ahithophel's seemingly superior military advice without further scrutiny?</a><a name="commentary" id="commentary"></a><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/pulpit/2_samuel/17.htm">Pulpit Commentary</a></div>Verse 9. - When some of them be overthrown at the first; Hebrew, in the falling on them; that is, at the first onslaught of David's champions. Even though overpowered finally by force of numbers, they are sure to make a large slaughter at first, which may easily lead to a panic. <a href="/commentaries/2_samuel/17-9.htm">Parallel Commentaries ...</a> <a name="lexicon" id="lexicon"></a><div class="vheading">Hebrew</div>Surely הִנֵּ֨ה (hin·nêh) Interjection <a href="/hebrew/strongs_2009.htm">Strong's 2009: </a> Lo! behold! by now עַתָּ֤ה (‘at·tāh) Adverb <a href="/hebrew/strongs_6258.htm">Strong's 6258: </a> At this time he הֽוּא־ (hū-) Pronoun - third person masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_1931.htm">Strong's 1931: </a> He, self, the same, this, that, as, are is hiding נֶחְבָּא֙ (neḥ·bā) Verb - Nifal - Participle - masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_2244.htm">Strong's 2244: </a> To withdraw, hide in a בְּאַחַ֣ת (bə·’a·ḥaṯ) Preposition-b | Number - feminine singular construct <a href="/hebrew/strongs_259.htm">Strong's 259: </a> United, one, first cave הַפְּחָתִ֔ים (hap·pə·ḥā·ṯîm) Article | Noun - masculine plural <a href="/hebrew/strongs_6354.htm">Strong's 6354: </a> A pit, for, catching animals or א֖וֹ (’ōw) Conjunction <a href="/hebrew/strongs_176.htm">Strong's 176: </a> Desire, if some other בְּאַחַ֣ד (bə·’a·ḥaḏ) Preposition-b | Number - masculine singular construct <a href="/hebrew/strongs_259.htm">Strong's 259: </a> United, one, first location. הַמְּקוֹמֹ֑ת (ham·mə·qō·w·mōṯ) Article | Noun - masculine plural <a href="/hebrew/strongs_4725.htm">Strong's 4725: </a> A standing, a spot, a condition If some of your troops fall כִּנְפֹ֤ל (kin·p̄ōl) Preposition-k | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct <a href="/hebrew/strongs_5307.htm">Strong's 5307: </a> To fall, lie first, בַּתְּחִלָּ֔ה (bat·tə·ḥil·lāh) Preposition-b, Article | Noun - feminine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_8462.htm">Strong's 8462: </a> A commencement, rel, original whoever hears [of it] וְשָׁמַ֤ע (wə·šā·ma‘) Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_8085.htm">Strong's 8085: </a> To hear intelligently will say, וְאָמַ֔ר (wə·’ā·mar) Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_559.htm">Strong's 559: </a> To utter, say ‘There הָֽיְתָה֙ (hā·yə·ṯāh) Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person feminine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_1961.htm">Strong's 1961: </a> To fall out, come to pass, become, be has been וְהָיָ֗ה (wə·hā·yāh) Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_1961.htm">Strong's 1961: </a> To fall out, come to pass, become, be a slaughter מַגֵּפָ֔ה (mag·gê·p̄āh) Noun - feminine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_4046.htm">Strong's 4046: </a> A blow, slaughter, plague, pestilence among the troops בָּעָ֕ם (bā·‘ām) Preposition-b, Article | Noun - masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_5971.htm">Strong's 5971: </a> A people, a tribe, troops, attendants, a flock who אֲשֶׁ֖ר (’ă·šer) Pronoun - relative <a href="/hebrew/strongs_834.htm">Strong's 834: </a> Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that follow אַחֲרֵ֥י (’a·ḥă·rê) Preposition <a href="/hebrew/strongs_310.htm">Strong's 310: </a> The hind or following part Absalom.’ אַבְשָׁלֹֽם׃ (’aḇ·šā·lōm) Noun - proper - masculine singular <a href="/hebrew/strongs_53.htm">Strong's 53: </a> Absalom -- 'my father is peace', two Israelites <div class="vheading">Links</div><a href="/niv/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 NIV</a> <a href="/nlt/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 NLT</a> <a href="/esv/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 ESV</a> <a href="/nasb/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 NASB</a> <a href="/kjv/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 KJV</a> <a href="//bibleapps.com/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 BibleApps.com</a> <a href="//bibliaparalela.com/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 Biblia Paralela</a> <a href="//holybible.com.cn/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 Chinese Bible</a> <a href="//saintebible.com/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 French Bible</a> <a href="/catholic/2_samuel/17-9.htm">2 Samuel 17:9 Catholic Bible</a> <a href="/2_samuel/17-9.htm">OT History: 2 Samuel 17:9 Behold he is hid now in some (2Sa iiSam 2 Sam ii sam) </a></div></div></td></tr></table></div><div id="left"><a href="/2_samuel/17-8.htm" onmouseover='lft.src="/leftgif.png"' onmouseout='lft.src="/left.png"' title="2 Samuel 17:8"><img src="/left.png" name="lft" border="0" alt="2 Samuel 17:8" /></a></div><div id="right"><a href="/2_samuel/17-10.htm" onmouseover='rght.src="/rightgif.png"' onmouseout='rght.src="/right.png"' title="2 Samuel 17:10"><img src="/right.png" name="rght" border="0" alt="2 Samuel 17:10" /></a></div><div id="botleft"><a href="#" onmouseover='botleft.src="/botleftgif.png"' onmouseout='botleft.src="/botleft.png"' title="Top of Page"><img src="/botleft.png" name="botleft" border="0" alt="Top of Page" /></a></div><div id="botright"><a href="#" onmouseover='botright.src="/botrightgif.png"' onmouseout='botright.src="/botright.png"' title="Top of Page"><img src="/botright.png" name="botright" border="0" alt="Top of Page" /></a></div><div id="bot"><iframe width="100%" height="1500" scrolling="no" src="/botmenubhnew2.htm" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></td></tr></table></div></body></html>