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Honestly, every time someone does this, I get flashbacks to all the out-of-pocket doo-doo Jay would say about sex and women on <a href="https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/the-inbetweeners-movie-sequel-to-be-filmed-in-australia/">the <em>Inbetweeners</em></a>. IYKYK. </p> <p>This time around, former adult-entertainment-performer-turned-sex-coach Stirling Cooper has come under fire for chucking in his two cents about what women should wear on a first date. </p> <div class="related-content read-more-content"> <span>READ MORE</span> <a href="https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/liam-payne-misogynist-kate-cassidy-tiktok/"> <div>Liam Payne Is Giving Major Ick With His Weird AF Comment About His GF Kate Cassidy In A TikTok</div> </a> </div> <p>Speaking on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKScpBCzL-0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow"><em>Frankifyy </em>podcast</a>, Cooper reckons women shouldn’t wear jeans on a first date, revealing it’s one of his boundaries because it’s the “least feminine” thing we could wear. </p> <p>“I hate when women wear jeans on a date. It’s like the least feminine thing I can think of,” he said. </p> <p>“I would say before we meet up ‘don’t wear jeans’. If you wear jeans, I’m going home. Pretty clear.” </p> <figure class="wp-block-image aligncenter size-large"><img decoding="async" src="https://www.pedestrian.tv/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Screenshot-2024-08-29-at-2.40.27%E2%80%AFPM.png?quality=75&w=1024" alt="" class="wp-image-1960254" loading="lazy"><figcaption class="wp-element-caption"><em>(Image source: YouTube / Frankifyy)</em></figcaption></figure> <p>Following that golden piece of advice that I’m so going to follow on my next Hingecapade (sarcasm), he added that he doesn’t like when women drink too much alcohol. </p> <p>“I will stop a woman from drinking if I think she’s had too much to drink,” Cooper continued. </p> <p>“She’s had one drink. Two drinks. She’s having way too much and then she goes to order another one. I will tell her. I will stop the waiter and be like, ‘No you’re not getting her a drink, get her a water instead.’”</p> <div class="oembed-placeholder oembed-placeholder--active" data-type="oembed" data-url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKScpBCzL-0"><svg class="svg-icon" width="70" height="70" x="0px" y="0px" viewbox="0 0 24 30" style="enable-background:new 0 0 50 50" xml:space="preserve"><rect x="0" y="0" width="4" height="10" fill="#333"><animatetransform attributetype="xml" attributename="transform" type="translate" values="0 0; 0 20; 0 0" begin="0" dur="0.6s" repeatcount="indefinite"></animatetransform></rect><rect x="10" y="0" width="4" height="10" fill="#333"><animatetransform attributetype="xml" attributename="transform" type="translate" values="0 0; 0 20; 0 0" begin="0.2s" dur="0.6s" repeatcount="indefinite"></animatetransform></rect><rect x="20" y="0" width="4" height="10" fill="#333"><animatetransform attributetype="xml" attributename="transform" type="translate" values="0 0; 0 20; 0 0" begin="0.4s" dur="0.6s" repeatcount="indefinite"></animatetransform></rect></svg></div> <p>The world’s best sex coach for men — allegedly — then said that when he tells a woman to drink water rather than alcohol, it’s kinda like a “dad disciplining his daughter”. </p> <p>“I’ve literally had verbatim from woman say, like after that has happened, verbatim they have said ‘that was the sexiest a guy’s ever done’,” he claimed. </p> <div class="related-content read-more-content"> <span>READ MORE</span> <a href="https://www.pedestrian.tv/online/us-podcast-host-apologises-for-slang-word-rant/"> <div>American Podcast Host Apologises For Pissing Off Aussie Fans With Rant About Popular Slang Word</div> </a> </div> <p>This particular snippet of the hour-long podcast was shared on Instagram, where it apparently went gangbusters. It’s since been mysteriously removed (wonder why), but not before the backlash was picked up by publications around the world.</p> <p>“He doesn’t like jeans on a date? Well, I don’t like misogyny and daddy-related control issues on a date,” one person commented under the snippet, per <a href="https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/lifestyle/porn-star-slammed-after-revealing-how-he-disciplines-women-he-dates/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow">New York Post</a>. </p> <p>“Did he really say that he’s giving his date the father-daughter treatment? Ew,” another listener wrote. </p> <p>“I signed up for a date, not an adoption interview with a man who thinks he can be my dad,” wrote a third. </p> <div class="related-content read-more-content"> <span>READ MORE</span> <a href="https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/john-mayer-kiernan-shipka-dating-rumours/"> <div>John Mayer Is Rumoured To Be Dating Former Child Star Kiernan Shipka & The Age Gap Is Wild</div> </a> </div> <p>As a woman who is writing this story in jeans, I absolutely agree with the commenters. Like one, who cares if someone is wearing jeans and two, the drinks???? </p> <p>Like imagine pulling up to a first date, looking incredible in a pair of denim blue jeans, and the bloke is already giving you the side-eye. As you try to navigate the date, you order a drink and then he stops you from doing so. 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Her viral character\u00a0<em>Long Head<\\\/em>\u00a0has now become a TikTok animated web-series.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<figure class=\\\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-tiktok wp-block-embed-tiktok\\\"><div class=\\\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\\\">\\n<blockquote class=\\\"tiktok-embed\\\" cite=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/@thisislonghead\\\/video\\\/7434038935963192583\\\" data-video-id=\\\"7434038935963192583\\\" data-embed-from=\\\"oembed\\\" style=\\\"max-width:605px; min-width:325px;\\\"> <section> <a target=\\\"_blank\\\" title=\\\"@thisislonghead\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/@thisislonghead?refer=embed\\\">@thisislonghead<\\\/a> <p>Oh brother, how\u2019s Long Head going to get out of this one? <a title=\\\"sketchcomedy\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/sketchcomedy?refer=embed\\\">#sketchcomedy<\\\/a><a title=\\\"samcampbell\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/samcampbell?refer=embed\\\">#samcampbell<\\\/a><a title=\\\"australiancomedy\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/australiancomedy?refer=embed\\\">#australiancomedy<\\\/a><a title=\\\"cartoon\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/cartoon?refer=embed\\\">#cartoon<\\\/a><a title=\\\"adultswim\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/adultswim?refer=embed\\\">#adultswim<\\\/a><a title=\\\"darkcomedy\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/darkcomedy?refer=embed\\\">#darkcomedy<\\\/a><a title=\\\"shortanimation\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/shortanimation?refer=embed\\\">#shortanimation<\\\/a><a title=\\\"animation\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/tag\\\/animation?refer=embed\\\">#animation<\\\/a><\\\/p> <a target=\\\"_blank\\\" title=\\\"\\u266c original sound - LongHead - LongHead\\\" href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/music\\\/original-sound-LongHead-7434039013469686545?refer=embed\\\">\\u266c original sound \u2013 LongHead \u2013 LongHead<\\\/a> <\\\/section> <\\\/blockquote> <script async src=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.tiktok.com\\\/embed.js\\\"><\\\/script>\\n<\\\/div><\\\/figure>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p>It\u2019s this kind of government-funded art that makes Millie an exemplar of being able to make a life out of being a silly creative. And before she becomes too cool for us and becomes one of the big-time names of Australia\u2019s comedy industry, we were able to chat with her for <em>Insider Trading<\\\/em> about her mindset in her flourishing creative journey.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><em><strong>Hint:<\\\/strong>\u00a0if you\\u2019re looking to break into the creative industry, check out our newly relaunched\u00a0<a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/jobs.pedestrian.tv\\\/\\\">Pedestrian JOBS<\\\/a>\u00a0and craft your next move.<\\\/em><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<figure class=\\\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\\\"><img loading=\\\"lazy\\\" decoding=\\\"async\\\" width=\\\"2057\\\" height=\\\"2880\\\" src=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?quality=75&w=731\\\" alt=\\\"\\\" class=\\\"wp-image-1983949\\\" style=\\\"width:355px;height:auto\\\" srcset=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg 2057w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=214,300 214w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=768,1075 768w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=731,1024 731w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=1097,1536 1097w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=1463,2048 1463w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=1568,2195 1568w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/millie-16_Kori_Jade.jpg?resize=1200,1680 1200w\\\" sizes=\\\"(max-width: 2057px) 100vw, 2057px\\\" \\\/><\\\/figure>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p class=\\\"has-text-align-center\\\"><em>(Millie\u2019s guide to being professionally silly. Image: Supplied)<\\\/em><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<h2 class=\\\"wp-block-heading\\\" id=\\\"h-insider-trading-millie-holten\\\">Insider Trading: Millie Holten<\\\/h2>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>Howdy Millie! I think it\\u2019d be easier for our readers if you just listed the multitude of professional titles you have on your resume.<br><br><\\\/strong>Sure! My main gigs right now are freelance screenwriter and director, comedy performer, illustrator, and Narrative And Art Lead at Toot Games. Listing them like that, it sounds more broad\\\/complex than it is. In reality, if there\\u2019s a gap that needs to be filled on a project, I\\u2019ll jump in there.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>It sounds chaotic. What\\u2019s a typical day like in your shoes?<br><br><\\\/strong>While I have eggs in a lot of baskets, the different eggs don\\u2019t need me at the same time, so my days are pretty varied. It\\u2019s strategic whack-a-mole, getting down the to-do list to make sure each project is chugging along.<br><br>If it\\u2019s a Toot Games day, I\\u2019ll be at my desk, drawing my characters and assets for levels, writing dialogue, etc.<br><br>When I\\u2019m doing the animatics\\\/storyboards for an animated project, it\\u2019s me glued to my desk.<br><br>If I\\u2019m screenwriting, I\\u2019m still at my desk.<br><br>Honestly, 90% of my life is spent at my desk. My posture is fucked. I need a new chair. Oh, man.<br><br>Occasionally, there\\u2019ll be more special days \u2013 like a shoot, voice-over session, live show, or writers rooms. When those occur, I try to find a desk in the room so I don\\u2019t get too startled by the change in environment.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>What\\u2019s the lore of your journey?<\\\/strong><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p>My favourite class in high school was VCE media, but I didn\\u2019t think that the arts were a viable career. None of my family works in the arts, so it seemed really risky to pursue. Instead, I thought marketing would be a nice middle ground. It was not. I dropped out two days into that degree.<br><br><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/news\\\/record-aussie-students-uni\\\/\\\">Dropping out<\\\/a> was a big deal for me, as I\\u2019d always been a big studious nerd. I think it was so out of character that my family knew it was the right move. I moved to London for a year, where I felt far enough away to start improv and write film reviews on my personal website without worrying about what people would think. When I got back, I decided to apply for screenwriting at VCA \u2013 and it was the best decision I ever made.<br><br>I kept doing live comedy alongside the degree, including sketch shows at the comedy festival. I also dabbled in game jams, podcasts and comics. Basically, I was having a go at a lot of things and enjoying that learning process, even though I was very shit at them at the start.<br><br>Organically, those things led to more work. The Long Head animation came from the EP cold emailing me after seeing one of my comics on instagram. Similarly, my first proper writer\u2019s room gig came from someone seeing my name shortlisted for a screenwriting competition five years prior. The little things have added up.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p>If enough people take a chance on you, they recommend you to other people, and then eventually you are a known quantity and it\\u2019s easier to get projects off the ground. Those early years, it\\u2019s a lot of no\\u2019s. Still is, to be honest. But it stings less now.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<figure class=\\\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\\\"><img loading=\\\"lazy\\\" decoding=\\\"async\\\" width=\\\"3840\\\" height=\\\"2160\\\" src=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?quality=75&w=1024\\\" alt=\\\"\\\" class=\\\"wp-image-1983994\\\" style=\\\"width:686px;height:auto\\\" srcset=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg 3840w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=300,169 300w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=768,432 768w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=1024,576 1024w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=1536,864 1536w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=2048,1152 2048w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=1568,882 1568w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=1200,675 1200w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=560,315 560w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=640,360 640w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=400,225 400w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=320,180 320w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/Long_Head_STILL_202413-1.jpg?resize=240,135 240w\\\" sizes=\\\"(max-width: 3840px) 100vw, 3840px\\\" \\\/><\\\/figure>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p class=\\\"has-text-align-center\\\"><em>(An inside-joke turned-Government funded animated TikTok series is goals.<\\\/em><br><em>Image: Supplied)<\\\/em><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>With the creative journey there are naturally moments of doubts on whether you can \\u201cmake it\\u201d. During those early years of no\u2019s, how do you keep your morale up? <br><br><\\\/strong>Comparison is the thing that usually brings about those feelings. Intellectually, I know that everyone\\u2019s running their own race. Still, there have been moments where I get really down on myself, worrying that I\\u2019ll fall behind my peers, or that I don\\u2019t have this intangible talent that others do. <strong><br><\\\/strong><br>The cure for me is always just focusing on my own lane, and working on something that makes me happy without worrying what it could lead to. Something really goofy that\\u2019s just for me \\u2013 not a stepping stone. (Also, a sleep usually helps.)<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>Lisa Hanawalt<\\\/strong> [from <em><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/entertainment\\\/bojack-horseman-season-6-final-trailer\\\/\\\">BoJack Horseman<\\\/a><\\\/em>] has a great talk about this:<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<figure class=\\\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\\\"><div class=\\\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\\\">\\n<iframe loading=\\\"lazy\\\" title=\\\"Lisa Hanawalt, BoJack Horseman - XOXO Festival (2015)\\\" width=\\\"500\\\" height=\\\"281\\\" src=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube.com\\\/embed\\\/f6F_CF7Yvo0?feature=oembed\\\" frameborder=\\\"0\\\" allow=\\\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\\\" referrerpolicy=\\\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\\\" allowfullscreen><\\\/iframe>\\n<\\\/div><\\\/figure>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>With Long Head and My Arms Are Longer Now, are you at a point where you can say you\\u2019ve found success in the creative industries?<\\\/strong><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p>Oh, absolutely. Big time. I never thought I\\u2019d be able to live off creative work. None of my family work in the arts \\u2014 so, trust me, I know this weird life is extremely rare and lucky. The fact that I live off my cooked work is insane. Sure, I\\u2019ve got dreams that have a bigger scope than the work I\\u2019m doing now, but where I\\u2019m at now is absolutely success.\u00a0<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>How\\u2019s your bank account feeling about your career choice?<br><br><\\\/strong>I think my bank account is worse off than people my age who went into a corporate gig after uni. Still, it\\u2019s better off than it was even two years ago, when I was worrying if I\\u2019d make rent every month. I\\u2019ve got some buffer time there, thank god.<br><br>Also, it\\u2019d be remiss of me not to acknowledge that if things ever do go to shit, I can always move back in with one of my parents for a bit \\u2014 they both live locally and would let me crash. Not everyone has that option. Knowing that back up is there, even subconsciously, is a huge reason I\\u2019ve been able to take the leap into the arts.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<figure class=\\\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\\\"><img loading=\\\"lazy\\\" decoding=\\\"async\\\" width=\\\"1280\\\" height=\\\"720\\\" src=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?quality=75&w=1024\\\" alt=\\\"\\\" class=\\\"wp-image-1983987\\\" style=\\\"width:601px;height:auto\\\" srcset=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png 1280w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=300,169 300w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=768,432 768w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=1024,576 1024w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=1200,675 1200w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=560,315 560w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=640,360 640w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=400,225 400w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=320,180 320w, https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/11\\\/minind-industry-women-treatment-sienna-mallon.png?resize=240,135 240w\\\" sizes=\\\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\\\" \\\/><\\\/figure>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p class=\\\"has-text-align-center\\\"><em>(Millie at PAX 2024 displaying her game My Arms Are Longer Now. Image: Supplied)<\\\/em><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p><strong>What\\u2019s one thing that aspiring creatives can learn from you for their own leap into the arts?<\\\/strong><\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<p>I couldn\\u2019t narrow it down to one. Here\\u2019s three; pick your favourite.<\\\/p>\\n\\n\\n\\n<ol>\\n<li>Treat it like a sport and get your reps in. These reps can be on stage, in a sketchbook, in final draft. Oh, and you\\u2019ll probably suck for a long time, which is fine. Everyone does! Your love of doing it should outweigh your insecurities about its reception. Through these reps, you\\u2019ll find your own voice \u2013 which is what you\\u2019ll eventually get work from! <a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.pedestrian.tv\\\/entertainment\\\/meet-struthless-the-aussie-bloke-making-art-out-of-our-cultural-cringe\\\/\\\">Struthless<\\\/a> has a <a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube.com\\\/watch?v=M6NsEDwHHiE\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\\\">great video<\\\/a> on this and so does <a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube.com\\\/watch?v=lmso66PVGtU\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\\\"><strong>Harold Barques<\\\/strong><\\\/a>.<br><\\\/li>\\n\\n\\n\\n<li>Finish the project. You can use spreadsheets, calendars, to do lists, index cards, etc to keep you on track. 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