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Don't expect a reply if you post here. Please use my talk page instead.<br/>--<a href="/wiki/User:Derbeth" title="User:Derbeth">Derbeth</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derbeth" title="User talk:Derbeth"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Derbeth-2015-01-12T14:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Derbeth-2015-01-12T14:53:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Derbeth-2015-01-12T14:53:00.000Z"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"></span>Cool. Does the bot understand that if there is more than one ety section, the pronunciation should usually be before them, at L3? <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:15:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"></span>When there is more than one Ety section, and the pronunciation is the same, WT:ELE doesn't cover the case; we put the pronunciations first. Putting it after/inside the first section is wrong. And will require cleanup. Has it already done this? Do you know? <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:15:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:15:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:15:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"></span>If there is no Etymology section, you put Pron first, or after Alt Spell; if there is an "Etymology" section put Pron after it; if there is an "Etymology 1" section" you put Pron before it. Are we going to have to run checks for Ety 1 in every entry you touch? ScsRhymeBot made a mess of this. You are less likely to see multiple etys, but please look for "Etymology 1". <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-26T23:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T22:17:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z"></span>It is not "insane". Are you checking for "Etymology 1" or not? <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T22:17:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T22:17:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T22:17:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T11:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="block" data-mw-thread-id="h-block-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-block-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"></span>block<span data-mw-comment-end="h-block-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: block"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:11:00.000Z-block">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-block"></span>Derbeth: this is not acceptable. </p><p>You must make your code recognize that a new pron sect goes before Etymology 1 (or not added at all) </p><p>You must <b>TEST</b> it and see that it works. "hope" is not sufficient. </p><p>Saying the requirement that your bot work properly is "insane" is <i>not encouraging</i>, it is direct evidence that you are too careless to be operating a a bot. </p><p>Note: what the bot is doing is good (great!) but if you are unwilling to TEST it and make sure it WORKS CORRECTLY, you must stop. </p><p>Also: I'm not (was not) asking you to prove it works correctly, only that you tell us it does. But at this point, even that level of trust is very nearly erased. </p><p>Show that you <i>understand the issue</i>, that <i>you take it seriously</i>, that you have fixed the code, and we can continue. Unless and until, this bot must remain blocked. I'm sorry, this is an excellent thing. It is a crying shame that you dismiss problems. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-block" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-block"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-block"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:11:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"></span>Note to everyone else: the issue is the placement of a new Pronunciation section in the presence of multiple Etymology sections within the language section. Either it should be before all; or simply not done at all. ScsRhymeBot ignored this issue and there are still many entries that need to be manually corrected. Derbeth is correct that this is "unlikely" for languages other than English, but it does occur, and at the time of the block, the bot was doing English entries. Derbeth has offered no statement (let alone evidence, which was not requested) that the bot code checks for this condition, either adds in front or skips or tags, except "hope" that it works, which clearly indicates to me that the code has <i>not</i> been tested.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The reference (on my talk) to this issue being "insane" is troubling. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:11:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:11:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:11:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=theater&diff=prev&oldid=3364278"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"></span>This edit</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=theater&diff=prev&oldid=3364278">this edit</a> made just before the block are both incorrect, and indicate serious problems with the bot code's logic. (note the addition of a new Pronunciation section in both cases, where the existing section was placed correctly, although the Alt Spell section was not; the placement of the new section is in any case incorrect) It needs to be recoded/designed/whatever and <i>tested</i> on these cases. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-1"></span>Any admin feel free to review/modify the block. My sleep time. Derbeth, I am very sorry about this, I hope we can sort it out. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-1"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:38:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-27T23:02:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=nick&diff=prev&oldid=3360620"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:07:00.000Z-block"></span>this edit</a> is also a problem, although the entry was not structured correctly. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:07:00.000Z-block" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:07:00.000Z-block"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:07:00.000Z-block"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:11:00.000Z-block"></span>Worked correctly at <a href="/wiki/bit" title="bit">bit</a> for cs and sv. (Though still needing work because the audio includes the article ;-). <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:11:00.000Z-block" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:11:00.000Z-block"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T12:11:00.000Z-block"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="should_work_like_this" data-mw-thread-id="h-should_work_like_this-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-should_work_like_this-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z"></span>should work like this<span data-mw-comment-end="h-should_work_like_this-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: should work like this"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z-should_work_like_this">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z-should_work_like_this"></span>One reasonable sequence: </p> <ol><li>extract proper language section; then within that: <dl><dd>(if no audio there already:)</dd></dl></li> <li>if multiple Pron sections, STOP</li> <li>if one Pron section and 0 or one Ety section, add audio</li> <li>if one Pron section and 2+ Ety sections and Pron before the first, add audio</li> <li>else if Pron after the first Ety, STOP <dl><dd>(so no Pron section, continue:)</dd></dl></li> <li>if 0 Ety sections, add Pron after Alternative spellings (or forms) (careful of levels, before next L3), or at top</li> <li>if one Ety section, add Pron after it (again, before next L3)</li> <li>if 2+ Ety sections, add Pron just before first</li></ol> <p>The alternative to "STOP" is to add the Pron section with a cleanup/RFC tag so you can go and place it correctly; or someone else will eventually get to it. A somewhat sloppier alternative is to always place a check tag if there is an <b>Etymology 1</b> header. (But note the bot code misbehaved at <a href="/wiki/theater" title="theater">theater</a>/<a href="/wiki/theatre" title="theatre">theatre</a>, where there was only one.) </p><p>The existence of <b>Etymology 1</b> is a reasonable heuristic for "multiple Ety sections", but since you must count Pron sections, you might as well count both. Start by setting ety=, pron=, then you can proceed with code like: (step 4 above) </p> <pre>if pron == 1 and ety > 1 and text.find('==Pron') < text.find('==Ety'): [add audio to Pron sect] </pre> <p>and so on. This is all very good to do, when done right. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z-should_work_like_this" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z-should_work_like_this"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-11-28T10:55:00.000Z-should_work_like_this"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="block_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-block_issue-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-block_issue-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z"></span>block issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-block_issue-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: block issue"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue"></span>(from my <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_Ullmann" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Robert Ullmann">talk page</a>)</i> </p><p>I have always tested my bot after every change in the code, but no testing can prove that the bot will always work fine in all cases, as you can't predict any abnormal entry form. When I have written "I hope" I have ment "I have tested my bot and therefore I can hope". Well, but know better than me what I do. </p> <dl><dd>"test" doesn't mean try one and hope it continues to work. If you have tested something, you don't "hope", you "know" (with some degree of certainty not quite 1.0) that it works. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-1"></span>What I find "insane" is that noone on English Wiktionary has been able to tell me how exactly my bot should work, although it was about a month from my first post on Beer parlour to the moment when my bot was given a bot flag. I have clearly written how my bot works and noone has objected; noone has ever mentioned sections like "Etymology 1". And in the middle of the work of my bot you have written on its discussion page, that I should completely change its behaviour, because it was completely wrong. When I said that I had written the bot according to Wiktionary official rules, you replied that these rules are wrong. How can I write a bot when noone on the English Wiktionary actually knows, what is the structure of entries? </p> <dl><dd>I mentioned multiple etymologies immediately on your Beer Parlour posting; you replied dismissing it as an issue; I replied again saying it was an issue that MUST be addressed. Which you did not respond to. So your statement here that "noone has objected" is demonstrably false.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I did not say that ELE was wrong; I said it was incomplete; the case of multiple etymologies with one pronunciation is not covered. We do know what the structure of entries is; your not listening is an issue. And, as noted, this was raised at the very start. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-1"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-1"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-2"></span>Even the algorithm you have provided me is not right. The edit on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=theater&diff=3364278&oldid=3101144">theater</a> you have found wrong is actually the only possibility: pronunciation section is in wrong place, because the rest of the entry is being transcluded as a template, so my bot cannot reach it. Even if I dealt with the case of (multiple?) page transclusion (which would require major code rewrite; I don't have enough time to do such complicated job), I think that soon an another bizzare case similar to "Etymology 1" or "page transclusion" would appear. I think that (lack of) organisation of English Wiktionary makes any automatic processing impossible as there are more exceptions than rules. </p> <dl><dd>I have no trouble at all with automatic processing; it is not intractable; it just has one level more structure than the other wikts typically do. (you are correct about theatre/theatre, that is/was an example gone wrong.) The algorithm is fine; if you actually follow it and the entry is already malformed, that is <i>not</i> your problem. Refusing to follow it <i>is</i> a problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-2"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-block_issue-2"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z-block_issue"></span>Currently I don't have time for anything; I am not able to implement complicated-as-hell handling of every possible exception on English Wiktionary. I see two solutions: either I will forget about audio files on English Wiktionary or I will modify the bot code, so that it would add pronunciation in a simple but safe way (in order not to remove anything) and would insert a cleanup template, so that people can fix them later. I think that for most languages except English such job would be just removing the template. There are more than 10 000 audio files to add, the choice is up to you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Derbeth" title="User:Derbeth">Derbeth</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derbeth" title="User talk:Derbeth"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z-block_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z-block_issue"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z-block_issue"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z"></span>No, adding cleanup tags because you are unwilling to make the bot function properly is not acceptable. (Adding a tag when the bot <i>can not reasonably</i> know what to do is fine, and a good idea.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It you make the bot function properly, and properly test it, fine.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>If, OTOH, you maintain the attitude that you can ignore or dismiss the format and policies here as "insane" or too complicated, then you should, as you say, find something else to do. Is a crying shame, as it would be <i>very</i> useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Derbeth-2007-12-09T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z"></span>Other sysops: I've left the block in place; feel free to lift it if you can get any kind of assurance from Derbeth that the bot will function properly. I'm not hopeful in that regard. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z-Robert_Ullmann-2007-12-16T10:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="bot_malfunctioning" data-mw-thread-id="h-bot_malfunctioning-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-bot_malfunctioning-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z"></span>bot malfunctioning<span data-mw-comment-end="h-bot_malfunctioning-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: bot malfunctioning"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-EncycloPetey-2008-11-20T23:04:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning"></span>Is adding plural pronunciations to singular enties. Blocked for now. Please fix it, and take more care. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann" title="User:Robert Ullmann">Robert Ullmann</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Robert_Ullmann-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_Ullmann-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_Ullmann-2008-11-20T15:43:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EncycloPetey-2008-11-20T23:04:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning"></span> It is also added links to bad files, such as the "Canadian" pronunciation of <a href="/wiki/about" title="about">about</a>, which was deliberately <i>not</i> linked as a fatuous pronunciation. That entry alreay has a correct Canadian audio link. --<a href="/wiki/User:EncycloPetey" title="User:EncycloPetey">EncycloPetey</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-EncycloPetey-2008-11-20T23:04:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EncycloPetey-2008-11-20T23:04:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EncycloPetey-2008-11-20T23:04:00.000Z-bot_malfunctioning"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Homonyms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Homonyms"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Homonyms"></span>Homonyms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Homonyms"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Homonyms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The following edits need to be checked - they're on a page of homonyms. </p> <ul><li><a class="external free" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-EncycloPetey-2009-10-16T15:43:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z-ad_nauseum"></span>The bot added a pronunciation to this page, but it's a misspelling, not a word in English. --<a href="/wiki/User:EncycloPetey" title="User:EncycloPetey">EncycloPetey</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z-ad_nauseum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z-ad_nauseum"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator 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I can't request an "incorrect" pronunciation be deleted there. They don't work that way. I did request a page move for their <i>ad nauseum</i> file to the correct spelling, but any such change could take weeks to happen. This is still only one instance, and meanwhile the problem will have to be corrected via your bot somehow. You will have to take responsibility for the erroneous edits of your bot, as it is a <i>requirement</i> of our bot policy. If you are unwilling to abide by Wiktionary policy, the permissions granted to run a bot here will have to be reconsidered by the community. --<a href="/wiki/User:EncycloPetey" title="User:EncycloPetey">EncycloPetey</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-EncycloPetey-2009-10-16T15:43:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EncycloPetey-2009-10-16T15:43:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EncycloPetey-2009-10-16T15:43:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2009-09-12T21:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z"><span id="Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation.2C_in_other_language_sections"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z"></span>Help with the addition of a file pronunciation, in other language sections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Help with the addition of a file pronunciation, in other language sections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Balamutick-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balamutick-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections"></span>Hello, could you share the source code of your bot User: DerbethBot. </p><p>Specifically, the functions for adding the pronunciation based on the availability of pronunciation of Esperanto in this category <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Esperanto_pronunciation">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Esperanto_pronunciation</a>. </p><p>We very much need to add pronunciation articles Esperanto, in Russian Wiktionary (and later in vikivortaro). </p><p>I regularly add audio files of pronunciation of Esperanto in this category <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Esperanto_pronunciation">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Esperanto_pronunciation</a> </p><p>But I do not have time or do I need a lot of extra time trying to prescribe is the pronunciation of all articles, you could help me? </p><p>That's how I add the pronunciation articles <a class="external free" href="https://ru.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=azeno&action=historysubmit&diff=1507519&oldid=1496372">http://ru.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=azeno&action=historysubmit&diff=1507519&oldid=1496372</a> manually. In the Russian Wiktionary. </p><p>And yet, I apologize for my English. Some suggestions I have translated by machine, unfortunately I do not know Polish, but you do not know Russian or Esperanto, because will be in English explained. <a href="/wiki/User:Balamutick" title="User:Balamutick">Balamutick</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Balamutick-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balamutick-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balamutick-2009-10-12T13:25:00.000Z-Help_with_the_addition_of_a_file_pronunciation,_in_other_language_sections"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z"></span>The French Wiktionary needs you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: The French Wiktionary needs you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-JackPotte-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackPotte-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you"></span>I apologize to ask you to do the same job of here on the French Wiktionary, which <a href="https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Bot/Requ%C3%AAtes#Ajout_de_sons_automatique_aux_articles" class="extiw" title="fr:Wiktionnaire:Bot/Requêtes">is now waiting for it in its grease pit for 3 days</a>: actually the wonderful Shtooka association which had recorded <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://swac-collections.org/download.php">100 000 free sounds</a>, including <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fr-abracadabrant.ogg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Fr-abracadabrant.ogg">some that you've already deployed</a>, has asked for a presentation of the French Wiktionary in Paris the next 13th February, and it will be more constructive to do it with their sounds inside. <a href="/wiki/User:JackPotte" title="User:JackPotte">JackPotte</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-JackPotte-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackPotte-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackPotte-2010-01-30T00:31:00.000Z-The_French_Wiktionary_needs_you"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Simple_English_Wiktionary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Simple_English_Wiktionary-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Simple_English_Wiktionary-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z"></span>Simple English Wiktionary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Simple_English_Wiktionary-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Simple English Wiktionary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tygrrr-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Simple_English_Wiktionary">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tygrrr-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Simple_English_Wiktionary"></span>Hey, when your bot adds audio files, could it place the UK file in front of/above the US file so that we can keep it in alphabetical order? Thanks for your attention. <a href="/wiki/User:Tygrrr" title="User:Tygrrr">Tygrrr</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Tygrrr-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Simple_English_Wiktionary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tygrrr-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Simple_English_Wiktionary"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tygrrr-2010-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Simple_English_Wiktionary"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="高級_/_高级" data-mw-thread-id="h-高級_/_高级-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z"><span id=".E9.AB.98.E7.B4.9A_.2F_.E9.AB.98.E7.BA.A7"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-高級_/_高级-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E7%B4%9A" title="高級">高級</a> / <a href="/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E7%BA%A7" title="高级">高级</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-高級_/_高级-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: 高級 / 高级"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tooironic-2011-12-26T01:16:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z-高級_/_高级"></span>It's great that your bot is adding Mandarin pronunciations, but it would be even better if it could add the pronunciation for both the traditional and simplified form (as in <a href="/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E7%B4%9A" title="高級">高級</a> / <a href="/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E7%BA%A7" title="高级">高级</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Tooironic" title="User:Tooironic">---> Tooironic</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z-高級_/_高级" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z-高級_/_高级"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z-高級_/_高级"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z"></span>Another example is <a href="/wiki/%E8%AA%AA%E6%9C%8D" title="說服">說服</a> and <a href="/wiki/%E8%AF%B4%E6%9C%8D" title="说服">说服</a>; you didn't add the pronunciation for the former. <a href="/wiki/User:Tooironic" title="User:Tooironic">---> Tooironic</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 15 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-07T11:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-19T03:11:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z"></span>And, again, at <a href="/wiki/%E8%AF%81%E5%AE%9E" title="证实">证实</a> and <a href="/wiki/%E8%AD%89%E5%AF%A6" title="證實">證實</a>. Come on! <a href="/wiki/User:Tooironic" title="User:Tooironic">---> Tooironic</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Tooironic-2011-12-19T03:11:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:11, 19 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-19T03:11:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon 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id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-22T22:17:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z"></span>And at <a href="/wiki/%E8%87%A8%E6%99%82" title="臨時">臨時</a> and <a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%B4%E6%97%B6" title="临时">临时</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Tooironic" title="User:Tooironic">---> Tooironic</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Tooironic-2011-12-22T22:17:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 22 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-22T22:17:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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href="/wiki/User:Tooironic" title="User:Tooironic">---> Tooironic</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Tooironic-2011-12-26T01:16:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 26 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tooironic-2011-12-26T01:16:00.000Z-Tooironic-2011-12-15T21:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-EncycloPetey-2012-08-12T23:24:00.000Z-Latin_pronunciations">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EncycloPetey-2012-08-12T23:24:00.000Z-Latin_pronunciations"></span>On 18 Oct 2011, your bot added numerous "Roman" pronunciations to Latin articles. These need to be removed or relabeled, as these itmes are not "Roman" Latin. The filenames were erroneous, and most have since been corrected or deleted by their creator. All reference to the "Roman" dialect (as he called it) have been eliminated from Wikibooks, where it was originally put forward. This is a result of his discovery that his descriptions and explanations were in error. So, these audio files should not be linked here, and many of them are awaiting deletion on Commons. --<a href="/wiki/User:EncycloPetey" title="User:EncycloPetey">EncycloPetey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EncycloPetey" title="User talk:EncycloPetey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-EncycloPetey-2012-08-12T23:24:00.000Z-Latin_pronunciations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EncycloPetey-2012-08-12T23:24:00.000Z-Latin_pronunciations"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EncycloPetey-2012-08-12T23:24:00.000Z-Latin_pronunciations"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Pt_pagar.ogg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Pt_pagar.ogg-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Pt_pagar.ogg-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Pt_pagar.ogg" title="File:Pt pagar.ogg">File:Pt pagar.ogg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Pt_pagar.ogg-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DerbethBot&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: File:Pt pagar.ogg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Chuck_Entz-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z-File:Pt_pagar.ogg">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chuck_Entz-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z-File:Pt_pagar.ogg"></span>Does this bot have an exception or exclusion list? The file Pt pagar.ogg is mislabeled- it sounds more like Italian <span class="Latn" lang="it"><a href="/wiki/pagare#Italian" title="pagare">pagare</a></span>. Every time DerbethBot adds it to <span class="Latn" lang="pt"><a href="/wiki/pagare#Portuguese" title="pagare">pagare</a></span>, the edit has to be reverted. <a href="/wiki/User:Chuck_Entz" title="User:Chuck Entz">Chuck Entz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chuck_Entz" title="User talk:Chuck Entz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:DerbethBot#c-Chuck_Entz-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z-File:Pt_pagar.ogg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chuck_Entz-2012-12-10T00:54:00.000Z-File:Pt_pagar.ogg"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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