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Dennoch würde man im Ergebnis mit DIM durch das endgültige Löschen der offensichtlich (seit Jahren) nicht mehr aktiven Benutzer, deren Accounts nun missbraucht werden, doch gleichermaßen erfolgreich sein, oder etwa nicht?<br> <br> Ist aber vielleicht "uncool" und vom Forenbetreiber nicht gewünscht, wenn die Mitgliederzahl in der Statistik schlagartig um einen signifikanten Teil reduziert ist. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":wink:" title="Zwinkern"> <br> <br> Gruß Joe</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1429598" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1429598"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=190625_1430903531.jpg" width="80" height="80" alt="Benutzeravatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Supporter<br /><img src="./images/ranks/rang_supporter.png" alt="Supporter" title="Supporter" /></dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=190625&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af">2685</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 15.12.2014 10:19</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Kontaktdaten:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://www.wcsaga.org" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1429598"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429598&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af#p1429598">Re: [3.3] Benutzer automatisch in bestimmte Gruppe verschieben &amp; Signatur sperren</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=1429598&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitieren</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429598&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af#p1429598" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2024-12-04T21:42:01+00:00">04.12.2024 22:42</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=1429597&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af#p1429597"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=208461&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af">Joe Kolade</a> hat geschrieben: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429597&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af#p1429597" aria-label="Zitierten Beitrag anzeigen" data-post-id="1429597" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash"><i class="icon fa-arrow-circle-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i></a><span class="responsive-hide">04.12.2024 22:11</span></cite> Dennoch würde man im Ergebnis mit DIM durch das endgültige Löschen der offensichtlich (seit Jahren) nicht mehr aktiven Benutzer, deren Accounts nun missbraucht werden, doch gleichermaßen erfolgreich sein, oder etwa nicht?</div></blockquote> Das eine ist die gelegentliche Bereinigung der User Base wo man einfach mal alle alten Nullposter raushaut, weil das schlicht nur Karteileichen sind die niemand braucht. Und zudem Potential haben, später für illegale Aktionen missbraucht zu werden. Hier kann man DIM einsetzen.<br> <br> Aber hier gehts um ehemals aktive Accounts mit denen früher reguläre Beiträge geschrieben wurden, denn genau die sind für die Halunken ja interessant, denn damit kann man illegale Aktionen länger tarnen, wenn gekaperte Accounts benutzt werden, die in der Vergangenheit bereits als echte User etabliert waren. Und das ist eben genau die Gruppe Accounts die FAR im Visier hat.<br> <br> Nach unseren bisherigen Erkenntnissen haben die betroffenen Accounts alle Beiträge, also sind das keine Accounts die DIM ins Visier nehmen würde, weil DIM nur User löscht, die effektiv 0 Posts haben. Das trifft auf gekaperte Accounts jedoch eher nicht zu, denn wenns einfach nur um Accounts an sich geht - also ohne jegliche Vorgeschichte - die zum Spammen missbraucht werden sollen, werden die heute eh im grossen Stil "gefarmt".<br> <br> Also zwei Werkzeuge für zwei verschiedene Aufgaben.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Ist aber vielleicht "uncool" und vom Forenbetreiber nicht gewünscht, wenn die Mitgliederzahl in der Statistik schlagartig um einen signifikanten Teil reduziert ist. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":wink:" title="Zwinkern"></div></blockquote> Das ist wieder ein anderes Thema. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":D" title="Mr. Green"></div> <div id="sig1429598" class="signature">Möge das Backup mit dir sein. Immer.<br> <strong class="text-strong">Kein Support via PN!</strong> Siehe den Punkt "Private Nachrichten" im <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/kb/viewarticle?a=7" class="postlink">phpBB.de-Knigge</a>.<br> <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/community/viewtopic.php?t=246191" class="postlink">Erweiterungen - Infos zur artgerechten Haltung</a> / <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/community/viewtopic.php?t=244054" class="postlink">phpBB Ext Check - Analyse von Erweiterungen bezüglich Vorgaben und Kompatibilität</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1429599" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1429599"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=208461&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" class="username">Joe Kolade</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Mitglied</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=208461&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af">171</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 27.02.2023 19:59</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1429599"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429599&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af#p1429599">Re: [3.3] Benutzer automatisch in bestimmte Gruppe verschieben &amp; Signatur sperren</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=1429599&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitieren</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429599&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af#p1429599" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=208461&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" class="username">Joe Kolade</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2024-12-04T22:10:14+00:00">04.12.2024 23:10</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote class="uncited"><div>weil DIM nur User löscht, die effektiv 0 Posts haben.</div></blockquote> Das habe ich übersehen! Danke für den Hinweis und die Klarstellung.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1429600" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1429600"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=208801&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af" class="username">forenmichl</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Mitglied</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=208801&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5bda4a14a5b518579fc0ce8812abe8af">7</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 04.12.2024 09:38</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1429600"> <h3 > <a 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