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1.9.3 Normal<br> <br> 2. 6, once you know what's going on.<br> <br> 3. Clear<br> <br> 4. Dialog is ok<br> <br> 5. Getting units to the elve in the north in time<br> <br> 6. Those level three wolves coming out of the fog just when you're ready to kill the orc leader was unfair.<br> <br> Note: not sure that it was this level, but there was an error message displayed at the top saying "debug_message" not recognized.</div> <div id="sig477716" class="signature">rmj</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p524879" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile524879"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=128176_1341673905.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">taptap</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=128176&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">980</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2011, 5:42 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content524879"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=524879&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p524879">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=524879&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=524879&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p524879" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">taptap</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2012-03-27T20:05:12+00:00">March 27th, 2012, 8:05 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Easy scenario (with the snowless forest that is as you have an overwhelming mobility advantage) the only challenge being the surprise to the end (restarted upon losing sylph due to surprise). Surprises like this don't add to scenarios, well surprise on the first try.<br> <br> I believe it would be a better way to put some snowmen or sth. different to the same end. Something that looks a little suspicious right away. It gives some foreshadowing, making the whole thing much more enjoyable.<br> <br> I would make the AI recruit more wolves (including pillagers) to offset the tremendous mobility advantage of the player a little.</div> <div id="sig524879" class="signature">I am a Saurian Skirmisher: I'm a real pest, especially at night.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p527195" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile527195"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128674&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">vicente</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=128674&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">33</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> November 21st, 2011, 9:40 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Washington DC, USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content527195"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=527195&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p527195">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=527195&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=527195&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p527195" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128674&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">vicente</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2012-04-28T19:53:42+00:00">April 28th, 2012, 7:53 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">In 1.10.2, the forest is covered with snow as well. So you really need to have 4 Sylphs to rescue the ally leader.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p527687" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile527687"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=130551&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=130551_1335590262.gif" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=130551&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Ninjuri</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=130551&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">167</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 28th, 2012, 2:59 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> California</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content527687"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=527687&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p527687">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=527687&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=527687&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p527687" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=130551&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Ninjuri</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2012-05-05T02:53:40+00:00">May 5th, 2012, 2:53 am</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) What difficulty levels and what version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?<br> easy 1.10.2<br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)<br> I'm not quite sure yet because i lost so early.<br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?<br> Clear<br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?<br> OK<br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?<br> Well i send some troops in 3 directions to take on each of the enemies and lighten the load on my ally. I send elves to the forest, drawves up the mountains on the east, and a mix of the two to the nearby enemy to the west. My dwarf squad slowly scaled the mountains and didn't run into a single enemy. My elf squad started up the center forest and ran into moderate opposition, which required some strategic regrouping on villages for a fight, and my mixed group heading left fought it out in the snow with the orcs and pushed into their base, just about to take it. Then suddenly, on the 12th turn, i randomly lost because my ally had been killed. I was <em class="text-italics">nowhere near</em> my ally. The snow bogged me down so much, i could not have made it halfway there before they died. I assumed since it was a snow level, that my ally could have held out for a little longer to at least let me get over there. Whats the deal?<br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)<br> N/A, i lost too early to really find out.<br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?<br> Maybe you could tell me that those mountains on the east are not there to put dwarves in, because nothing actually goes over there. Also give me enough time to actually make it to my ally's castle before they die, this was like WTF. Either that, or make a quicker way to get over there, instead of crawling through the snow. <br> (8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?<br> Yes, my ally died as mentioned in 5.<br> <br> That being said, i will now try the scenario a second time, now that i know what's going down, to see if i fare a little better. Now that i know where i need to be, I will modify my strategy as such: I'll be sending NO units up the mountains, using the extra money to send more units in the other 2 directions instead. I will build NO units that do not have a movement of at least 5, to try to actually get to my ally before they die. If both of these modifications to my strategy do not work, i will promptly say "[censored] it." <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="8)" title="Cool"><br> <br> Attachment related, it's me failing.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=56803&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">LoW-Breaking_the_Siege-Auto-Save12.gz</a></dt> <dd>(118.11 KiB) Downloaded 1046 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig527687" class="signature">Fate is against me.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p527694" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile527694"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=130551&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=130551_1335590262.gif" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=130551&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Ninjuri</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=130551&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">167</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 28th, 2012, 2:59 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> California</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content527694"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=527694&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p527694">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=527694&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=527694&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p527694" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=130551&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Ninjuri</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2012-05-05T06:18:18+00:00">May 5th, 2012, 6:18 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Okay, really? What the heck! <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_annoyed.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":annoyed:" title="Annoyed"> <br> <br> I played it <em class="text-italics">again</em> and it went awry <em class="text-italics">again</em>!<br> <br> I changed my tactic, sending the majority of my forces as an elf group up into the forest, with a smaller mixed group going west to kill or at least stall the leader down there. I barely made it in time with Cleo to help out my ally while the rest of my forces played catch-up. I kept trying to position Cleo to not only attack orcs but heal the allied leader as well, only he kept deliberately running away and not getting healed. This was when i first noticed how suicidal he was. He would often run back and forth from his keep to recruit a unit, and then go to rejoin the fight even at low hitpoints. There was no real danger, however, as long as he was near the base and i could cover some of his flanks, minimizing the damage done to him. The bulk of my forces arrived, and i started pushing out east and west against the two orcish bases. Things were going alright, and i was recruiting units from my ally's base. I guess he was ticked off that i was using his castle, (even though i was on it for 1 turn and gave him ample opportunity to use it too, i even left him some villages for income), that he decided to just run away. I'm not even joking, he just up and left heading south without any body guards or protection. He left my line of sight and i have <em class="text-italics">no idea</em> what happened after that, or why he couldn't have just stayed, because we were winning. Then, without warning, it suddenly said he died and i lost. I didn't even know <em class="text-italics">where</em> he was or <em class="text-italics">what</em> he was doing! This infuriates me to no end! WHY ME?<br> <br> (Attachment related, it shows proof of his suicidal tenancies)<br> <br> I am ready to say "[censored] it." <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="8)" title="Cool"></div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=56804&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">LoW-Breaking_the_Siege-Auto-Save26.gz</a></dt> <dd>(124.99 KiB) Downloaded 906 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig527694" class="signature">Fate is against me.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p550161" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile550161"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=133903&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">DanChem</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=133903&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">7</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 22nd, 2013, 7:42 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content550161"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=550161&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p550161">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=550161&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=550161&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p550161" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=133903&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">DanChem</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2013-03-23T21:06:36+00:00">March 23rd, 2013, 9:06 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><strong class="text-strong">(1) What difficulty levels and what version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?</strong><br> Easy. (1.10.2)<br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)</strong><br> 5 (As I played). 7 (Playing with preparation for "Costly revenge").<br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</strong><br> Clear.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?</strong><br> Clear, medium interested.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</strong><br> Finishing quickly to get lots of gold, not losing to many units anymore. (I lost more than enough in human alliance). Well despite that I unexpectedly lost an ancient wose at full health against that "reserve". Also, i might have to replay this one. Because looking at the restrictions on playing "Costly Revenge", I am in extreme trouble with my Wose-based troop. (Which is completely unusable in Costly Revenge). Well I thought of my problems earlier, when I looked at my one sided units, but now it is definite.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? 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(1.10.6)<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)</strong><br> 9 if you aren't prepared (which was the case)<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</strong><br> Clear. With the exception that i didn't know my ally would die very quickly.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?</strong><br> Clear.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</strong><br> beating it before time runs out. this is the first scenario where this happens, and the reason is that i don't have enough fast units to conquer anything with them alone. so far i used them only as support. i can only save the enemy leader if i ask him to come to my start position, which means there's no one in middle to hold of the enemies for a while. then, being only able to travel 2 hexes each round, i can't reach the northern bosses in time.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)</strong><br> 3. i hate the snow. i don't like that you need fast units.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</strong><br> increase the turn limit to 40 (i'm actually going to do that before i continue). i beat the enemy, but i couldn't arrive at the northern bosses before round 37 (and that was just a calculation after killing the first boss in south, enemies would have probably slowed me down). that's frustrating, and there's no need to have such a tight turn limit for a scenario that doesn't need haste, storywise. there's one more point, that is the same in the other scenario that uses this map: it's a bit frustrating that there are so few villages in my start area. i would prefer to move some villages from far away to my starting place, so i don't have to have negative income for most of the time.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?</strong><br> enemy leader got killed and i had no chance to arrive at him. and the reinforcements before i knew about them (but i like them, even though i had to reload).</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p572649" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile572649"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122338&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=122338_1281796547.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122338&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Maiklas3000</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=122338&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">532</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 23rd, 2010, 10:43 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content572649"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=572649&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p572649">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=572649&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=572649&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p572649" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122338&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Maiklas3000</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2014-06-30T19:19:38+00:00">June 30th, 2014, 7:19 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><strong class="text-strong">(1) Level, version, and gold?</strong> Hard, 1.11.15, 100 starting gold.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) Difficult? (1-10)</strong> 8. It's harder than under 1.8, because we have no armada of Shydes now.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) Objectives?</strong> Clear.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) Dialog?</strong> Fine.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) Challenges?</strong> The biggest problem is the direwolf surprise. I think I got lucky to survive.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) Fun? (1-10)</strong> 8, I like it, because of the small skirmishes - a change from big battles lines.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(7) Changes?</strong> I suggest one less Direwolf Rider.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(8) Restarts?</strong> No, and no save-reloads here or at any time previous in the campaign.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=65499&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">LoW-Breaking_the_Siege_replay.gz</a></dt> <dd>(146.09 KiB) Downloaded 899 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p575204" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile575204"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=137933&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">gotnosylphs</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=137933&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">2</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 30th, 2014, 4:41 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content575204"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=575204&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p575204">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=575204&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=575204&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p575204" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=137933&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">gotnosylphs</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2014-08-30T17:29:01+00:00">August 30th, 2014, 5:29 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) What difficulty levels and what version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?<br> normal, version 1.10<br> <br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)<br> I'd say 10 sylphs out of 10. <br> <br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?<br> Quite clear. Could add lack of a sylph as a loss condition just to be perfectly clear.<br> <br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?<br> Ok. Sylphs could be mentioned in the dialogue, like: "Haha! Attack my sylphs, those orcs will never know what hit them!" or: "Oh no, we have no sylphs, we are surely doomed!"<br> <br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?<br> I failed to find sylphs on my recall list.<br> <br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)<br> 9.<br> <br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?<br> Would be funny if the orcs taunted the player for not having any sylphs.<br> <br> (8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?<br> Lack of sylphs. Restarting doesn't seem to help.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p576221" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile576221"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=138069_1411349038.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Inky</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Forum Moderator</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=138069&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">528</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> September 22nd, 2014, 1:02 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content576221"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=576221&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p576221">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=576221&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=576221&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p576221" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Inky</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2014-09-27T17:42:48+00:00">September 27th, 2014, 5:42 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Original post (version 1.10.4) <div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px"><div class="quotetitle" style="vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block"><strong>Spoiler:</strong> <input class="button1" style="font-size:0.8em" type="button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; this.innerText = ''; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; this.innerText = ''; }"></div><div class="quotecontent" style="display:none">(1) What difficulty levels and what version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?<br> 1.10.4, Hard, 100 starting gold<br> <br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)<br> 8 - Completely dependent on how many sylphs you have. I only had 1 so it was pretty difficult.<br> In addition this is another scenario where although the scenario itself is not difficult, you must finish as soon as possible for the gold bonus so there is a lot of time pressure.<br> <br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?<br> Clear.<br> <br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?<br> Fine.<br> <br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?<br> Finishing as fast as possible for the gold bonus.<br> Also the nasty surprise when you attack the southern orc leader.<br> <br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)<br> 4 - Lots of dragging your units across ice, time pressure, and the direwolves which come out of nowhere.<br> <br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?<br> Maybe make it so the wolves come to attack you from the beginning, so they they don't all come at once.<br> Also I believe this scenario is much too reliant on flying units. I would suggest making some paths through the snow. Some players may not have any flying units, especially after Human Alliance, and this scenario would be very frustrating for them.<br> <br> (8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?<br> Yes, restarted first because of the direwolves and second because of not enough gold, but no save loads as usual.<br> <br> The first time I wasn't expecting the direwolves and they ended up killing Landar (even though I triggered them at dawn!).<br> <br> The second time I sent 1 shyde + 1 sylph to kill the northeast leader and then turn west to kill the western one. Immediately after killing the western one I attacked the southern one and finished him off before the wolves had a chance to attack. A little cheap but this is exactly this issue with these kinds of surprises: if you are not expecting them you are very likely to get killed and if know about it you can exploit it like this. As mentioned above I think it's better to have the wolves there from the beginning.<br> <br> It turns out the above method was too slow as it only gave me 379 gold for Costly Revenge, which wasn't enough for me to beat it. So the third time I sent 1 sylph to kill the north leader, 2 shydes to kill the NW leader, and the main army to kill the southern one. This worked very well and gave me 630 gold for Costly Revenge which was more than enough. Which demonstrates my point about this scenario being too reliant on flying units: if you do not have two separate teams to kill the NE/NW leaders simultaneously you will probably be short on gold in Costly Revenge.</div></div> <strong class="text-strong">(1) Level and version? </strong>Hard, 1.12.4, 100 starting gold (min)<br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) Difficult? (1-10)</strong> 5, very easy with sylphs<br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) Objectives?</strong> Clear.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) Dialog?</strong> Fine.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) Challenges?</strong> Not much, the challenge comes from leveling the sylphs in the previous scenarios.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) Fun? (1-10)</strong> 5<br> <strong class="text-strong">(7) Changes? </strong> Seems fine as is. Now that you have a loyal sylph and two loyal shydes the over reliance on flying units isn't a problem anymore.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(8) Restarts?</strong> None.<br> Finished turn 18/32</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=68621&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">LoW-Breaking_the_Siege_replay.gz</a></dt> <dd><em>wesnoth 1.12.4 / hard</em></dd> <dd>(105.93 KiB) Downloaded 856 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="notice"> Last edited by <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Inky</a> on September 19th, 2015, 9:36 pm, edited 1 time in total. </div> <div id="sig576221" class="signature">Screenshot playthroughs: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43304" class="postlink">Let's Play Dead Water</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43960" class="postlink">Let's Play Invasion from the Unknown</a> and <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=45055" class="postlink">Let's Play After the Storm</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p586854" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile586854"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139967&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Violet-n-red</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=139967&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">49</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 27th, 2015, 2:38 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content586854"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=586854&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p586854">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=586854&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=586854&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p586854" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139967&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Violet-n-red</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2015-07-01T15:38:25+00:00">July 1st, 2015, 3:38 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">1) What difficulty levels and what version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?<br> normal, 1.12.2<br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)<br> 4.<br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?<br> very clear.<br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?<br> final dialogue could've been a bit extended. also, what army? i haven't noticed any kind of army increase in next scenario.<br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?<br> scouting, baiting, attacking and covering at the same time with two small squads.<br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)<br> 8<br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?<br> give us ally's vision when we discover any of his units. i had no idea what was going on and how well my ally was doing.<br> (8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?<br> no<br> <br> i completed scenario by hiring dwarvish guards and send ing all dwarves to the north, while filling remaining one or two camp hexes with marksmen and moving all elves to the east. both squads encountered soem resistance on the way, dwarvish squad managed to defeat two smal lwaves of orcish invaders, but had to take on allied village for themselves, because their leader was poisoned and was not in a condition to fight. elvish squad consisted mostly of 3lvl units, three of which were highly maneuverable and were able to scout and bait out enemy units. this party managed to sclear out orcish camp sooner than another one could even see enemy camp. first time i saw an ally was when one of his archers was heading to nearby village which was occupied by my dwarvish lord not long ago. second time was when i got to the second orc camp in the east and there i've seen elves assaulting orcish encampment. assault was weak and already worn out, so my help was relly needed. during that, dwarvish forces made it to the enemy camp and were successfully beating everything the last orcish leader could throw at them int othe ground with their hammers, axes and shields. berserker had some fun too chopping hostile crossbowmen into pieces - that was his compensation for the last battle he tried to take part in, but could not because everything was dying too fast for him to get and take a bite off. last note : i was trying to both complete this mission as fast as possible an get as many non-allied villages on my way as possible. still, that was not nearly enough for the next scenario :c</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601908" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601908"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140952&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Caladbolg</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=140952&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">198</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 1st, 2016, 4:40 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Hopelessly trapped within the Submachine</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601908"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601908&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p601908">Re: V 1.9/1.10 - 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601908&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601908&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p601908" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140952&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Caladbolg</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-05T18:29:41+00:00">September 5th, 2016, 6:29 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><strong class="text-strong">1) What difficulty levels and what version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?</strong><br> 1.12.5, medium.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)</strong><br> 5, it was moderate difficulty.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</strong><br> Clear. <br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?</strong><br> All good.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</strong><br> Nothing major, the only frustrating thing was how slowly some units move over snow.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)</strong><br> 6. The only thing that really stands out is the map which is beautiful (especially the elvish castle and great trees which add some vivid green).<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</strong><br> Nothing comes to mind.<br> <br> <span style="text-decoration:underline">Strategy:</span> Recalled a fast ranger, scout, an outrider and 2 more sylphs and shydes; I haven't used up all of my gold as that should suffice; half of the army (including dwarves) will go west, others north. Sylphs will shred enemy units (priority being units with poison) and the few lower lvl units I have will try to get some xp (to that end, some enemies are left with low hp rather than being killed). Emphasis on gathering villages and quickly defeating enemies for good carryover<br> <br> Turn 8, Scout->Rider, and a sylph is sent to attack the SW leader, triggering the wolves so she retreats instead. Turn 10, SW leader killed. Turn 11, NE leader killed. Cleodil had 5xp to advance so I didn't retreat her from battle and I almost lost her there. Fortunately, she survived and AMLAd. Turn 12, Rider->Outrider. Turn 13, Ranger->Avenger. Most enemies are killed so I move to gather the remaining villages as efficiently as I can. Turn 15, NW leader reached and slowed. 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(1-10)</div></blockquote> 7 - But I should really say 9 because on hard your elvish ally gets himself killed so easily. Also, on hard the time is very tight. <blockquote><div><cite>Content Feedback wrote:</cite>(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</div></blockquote> Clear <blockquote><div><cite>Content Feedback wrote:</cite>(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?</div></blockquote> Clear <blockquote><div><cite>Content Feedback wrote:</cite>(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</div></blockquote> -Inevitably, you end the scenario <em class="text-italics">Human Alliance</em> in deep negative gold, and the scenario <em class="text-italics">The Chief must die</em> provides you with no gold either. So, you're bound to start this scenario with the minimum gold.<br> -Also, Kalenz is level 2 now - it's very unlikely to have him levelled up to level 3 in the single scenario <em class="text-italics">The Chief must die</em>.<br> -Also, some of your loyal units are so slow they are of no use. The dwarf Oluf (speed 4) gets to no battle on time. Anduilas (speed 5) hardly gets to fight. You need fast units for this scenario.<br> I remember when I played this scenario on easy and medium, I chose to defeat the southwestern orc leader before advancing north. On hard, this is no longer a choice. The elvish ally gets himself killed so quickly, you have to literally run to him in order to avoid the orcs killing him and make you lose. You end up recruiting level-1 elvish riders rather than recalling level-3 units. Your units are so slow in the snow! <blockquote><div><cite>Content Feedback wrote:</cite>(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)</div></blockquote> 7 <blockquote><div><cite>Content Feedback wrote:</cite>(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</div></blockquote> Slowness in the snow is no fun. Also, the time to save the elvish ally is too tight on hard - get more gold for him so he survives a bit more. <blockquote><div><cite>Content Feedback wrote:</cite>(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?</div></blockquote>-</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p651828" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile651828"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142147&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Hestelvar</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=142147&sr=posts&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528">36</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> July 29th, 2016, 7:41 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content651828"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=651828&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p651828">Re: 17 - Breaking the Siege</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=651828&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=651828&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528#p651828" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142147&sid=f073dce0f799943015928c95494a5528" class="username">Hestelvar</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2020-02-11T00:52:35+00:00">February 11th, 2020, 12:52 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><strong class="text-strong">(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?</strong><br> 1.14.5<br> Solider (Easy)<br> Starting Gold 300<br> <strong class="text-strong">(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)</strong><br> 4 or 5. Straightforward except for the Direwolf ambush.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</strong><br> Defeat all enemy leaders & save your ally. Hard to misinterpret!<br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialogue and storyline of the scenario?</strong><br> Minimal dialogue - it serves its purpose.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</strong><br> Trudging through snow is slow.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)</strong><br> 5. 6+ If you avoid the trap.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(7) What, if any, are the changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</strong><br> Make the orc reinforcement spawn at a distance so the player has a chance to regroup. As it is now a scout crossing the frozen stream in the wrong place will find itself effectively surrounded by Direwolves without any warning!<br> <strong class="text-strong">(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?</strong><br> Restarted after the Direwolf ambush.<br> <strong class="text-strong">(9) If you know a bit of the Wesnoth Markup Language - do you think that the WML of this scenario is clear and well commented? 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(1-10)</strong><br> <br> 4, I have enough veterans.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?</strong><br> <br> Clear.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?</strong><br> <br> Tbh, there wasn't much.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?</strong><br> <br> Getting to the southern orcish leader.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? 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