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id="h-Mikec85,_you_are_invited_to_the_Teahouse!"></span>Mikec85, you are invited to the Teahouse!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mikec85,_you_are_invited_to_the_Teahouse!"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikec85&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Mikec85, you are invited to the Teahouse!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <table style="margin: 1em 4em;"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="File:WP teahouse logo 2.png by User:Heatherawalls, licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0"><img alt="Teahouse logo" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/WP_teahouse_logo_2.png" decoding="async" width="101" height="101" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="101" data-file-height="101"/></a></span> </td> <td><div style="background-color:#f4f3f0; color: #393D38; padding: 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Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. <br/>Be our guest at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">the Teahouse</a>! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from experienced editors like <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:78.26">78.26</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:78.26" title="User talk:78.26">talk</a>). </p> <div class="submit ui-button ui-widget ui-state-default ui-corner-all ui-button-text-only" role="button" style="float: left;"><span class="ui-button-text"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Visit the Teahouse</a></span></div> <div style="text-align:right;">We hope to see you there! <p><small>Delivered by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HostBot">HostBot</a></span> on behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts">Teahouse hosts</a></small> </p> <small>16:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)</small></div> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome!-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z"><span id="Welcome.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome!-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z"></span>Welcome!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome!-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikec85&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Welcome!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rocky_734-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z-Welcome!"></span>Hello, Mikec85, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mikec85" title="Special:Contributions/Mikec85">your contributions</a>. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1184024115">.mw-parser-output .div-col{margin-top:0.3em;column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .div-col-small{font-size:90%}.mw-parser-output .div-col-rules{column-rule:1px solid #aaa}.mw-parser-output .div-col dl,.mw-parser-output .div-col ol,.mw-parser-output .div-col ul{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .div-col li,.mw-parser-output .div-col dd{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}</style><div class="div-col" style="column-width: 30em;column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2;"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Introduction">Introduction</a> and <a href="/wiki/Help:Getting_started" title="Help:Getting started">Getting started</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia">Contributing to Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">The five pillars of Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Help:Editing" title="Help:Editing">How to edit a page</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_development" title="Wikipedia:Article development">How to develop articles</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Help:Your_first_article" title="Help:Your first article">How to create your first article</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Simplified_Manual_of_Style" title="Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style">Simplified Manual of Style</a></li></ul> </div> <p>You may also want to complete the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure" title="Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure">Wikipedia Adventure</a>, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a> to ask questions or seek help. </p><p>Please remember to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">sign</a> your messages on <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">talk pages</a> by typing four <a href="/wiki/Tilde" title="Tilde">tildes</a> (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions">Wikipedia:Questions</a>, ask me on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rocky_734" title="User talk:Rocky 734">my talk page</a>, or <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit Special:MyTalk"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MyTalk&action=edit&section=new&preload=Help:Contents/helpmepreload&preloadtitle=Help+me%21">ask for help on your talk page</a></span>, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! <a href="/wiki/User:Rocky_734" title="User:Rocky 734">Rocky 734</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rocky_734" title="User talk:Rocky 734">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mikec85#c-Rocky_734-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z-Welcome!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 29 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rocky_734-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z-Welcome!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rocky_734-2019-11-29T01:44:00.000Z-Welcome!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPA_and_UPE?" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPA_and_UPE?-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z"><span id="SPA_and_UPE.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPA_and_UPE?-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z"></span>SPA and UPE?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPA_and_UPE?-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikec85&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: SPA and UPE?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Indy_beetle-2020-04-01T03:45:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"></span>You cannot say CONVICTION as Judge Cogburn has not made any conviction ruling. A jury ruled Lindberg guilty, however, Cogburn made no adverse ruling or conviction due to the appeal. Stating "conviction" is simply false. </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Mikec85" title="User:Mikec85">Mikec85</a>:</span> First, for discussing the content of the Lindberg article, please use the talk page there: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Greg_Lindberg" title="Talk:Greg Lindberg">Talk:Greg Lindberg</a>. New additions can be made at the bottom of that page. Please sign your comments. In regards to your problem with the use of the word conviction, there seems to be no convention barring the use of this word. Merriam-Webster dictionary defines conviction as "the act or process of finding a person guilty of a crime especially in a court of law". Cambridge dictionary defines it as the following: "the fact of officially being found to be guilty of a particular crime, or the act of officially finding someone guilty". Lindberg was found guilty by the jury. None of these definitions stipulate anything about a judge's sentencing being required for the word conviction to be used. Secondly, news sources have described this as a conviction:</dd></dl> <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFDrew2020" class="citation news cs1">Drew, Jonathan (March 9, 2020). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2020/03/09/560648.htm">"North Carolina Insurance Magnate Convicted of Bribery, Conspiracy"</a>. <i>Insurance Journal</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">March 12,</span> 2020</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Insurance+Journal&rft.atitle=North+Carolina+Insurance+Magnate+Convicted+of+Bribery%2C+Conspiracy&rft.date=2020-03-09&rft.aulast=Drew&rft.aufirst=Jonathan&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.insurancejournal.com%2Fnews%2Fsoutheast%2F2020%2F03%2F09%2F560648.htm&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMikec85" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFOhnesorge2020" class="citation news cs1">Ohnesorge, Lauren (March 18, 2020). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2020/03/18/convicted-billionaire-lindberg-sues-nc-insurance.html">"Convicted billionaire Lindberg sues NCDOI commissioner"</a>. <i>Charlotte Business Journal</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. 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Associated Press.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=U.S.+News+World+%26+Report&rft.atitle=Major+North+Carolina+Donor+Convicted+of+Bribery%2C+Conspiracy&rft.date=2020-03-05&rft.aulast=Drew&rft.aufirst=Jonathan&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus%2Farticles%2F2020-03-05%2Fmajor-north-carolina-donor-convicted-of-bribery-conspiracy&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMikec85" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFWoellert2020" class="citation news cs1">Woellert, Lorraine (March 5, 2020). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/03/05/florida-gop-donor-convicted-on-corruption-charges-in-north-carolina-9421651">"Florida GOP donor convicted on corruption charges in North Carolina"</a>. <i>Politico</i>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Politico&rft.atitle=Florida+GOP+donor+convicted+on+corruption+charges+in+North+Carolina&rft.date=2020-03-05&rft.aulast=Woellert&rft.aufirst=Lorraine&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politico.com%2Fstates%2Fflorida%2Fstory%2F2020%2F03%2F05%2Fflorida-gop-donor-convicted-on-corruption-charges-in-north-carolina-9421651&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMikec85" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFGordon2020" class="citation news cs1">Gordon, Michael (March 19, 2020). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article241315156.html">"Judge wants to know: After Greg Lindberg's conviction, did his consultant harass a juror?"</a>. <i>The Charlotte Observer</i>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=The+Charlotte+Observer&rft.atitle=Judge+wants+to+know%3A+After+Greg+Lindberg%E2%80%99s+conviction%2C+did+his+consultant+harass+a+juror%3F&rft.date=2020-03-19&rft.aulast=Gordon&rft.aufirst=Michael&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.charlotteobserver.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Farticle241315156.html&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMikec85" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul> <p>- <a href="/wiki/User:Indy_beetle" title="User:Indy beetle">Indy beetle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Indy_beetle" title="User talk:Indy beetle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mikec85#c-Indy_beetle-2020-04-01T03:45:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Indy_beetle-2020-04-01T03:45:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Indy_beetle-2020-04-01T03:45:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"></span>Dear Mike, </p><p>Could you please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPA</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a> and confirm that you are a single purpose account and a paid editor? If so you'll need to declare who is paying you. Please also read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> and let any other editors you're working with know these rules as well. </p><p><b>I can confirm I am a SPA and that I'm a paid editor as I am the webmaster/administrator for www.greglindberg.com. I have the authorization to cite any material from his website. I am paid by a company called Apex International LLC. Thank you for providing me with the rules I will follow them from now on.</b> </p><p>The general problems include <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyvio" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Copyvio">copyright violations</a> - you'll need to get releases for material that you've taken from Lindberg's websites and placed onto Wikipedia. Also just quoting Lindberg's lawyer taken from press releases or Lindberg's website doesn't work. Those are considered to be primary sources. We need material that reliable sources, such as newspapers, have mentioned. If Lindberg wants to make a plea in court, Wikipedia is not the place to make the plea, the courtroom is. </p><p><b>As mentioned above, I am the webmaster/administrator/copyright for www.greglindberg.com and I have the authorization to share material from Lindberg's websites.</b> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mikec85#c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:42:00.000Z-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z"></span>You'll need to be neutral in your edits - see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a>. I'm letting an administrator know about the problems here now <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:MER-C" title="User:MER-C">MER-C</a>:</span> and I've reverted your recent edits. You need to let other editors, e.g. me, edit the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mikec85#c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:42:00.000Z-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 16 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:42:00.000Z-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:42:00.000Z-Smallbones-2019-12-16T16:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smallbones-2019-12-20T03:49:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"></span>Can you let me know what isn't neutral here? There any many news articles about Greg Lindberg and it seems to be equally as subjective to focus on just the alleged bribery. There have been numerous articles about Lindberg's business practices, personal and professional life. Can you kindly share why the Bribery is the sole focus here?</b> </p><p>Mike, </p><p>Thanks for the disclosure. A minor request - please sign your edits on this page with 3 tildas ~~~ To properly declare your paid editing status please fill out the {{connected contributor (paid)}} template and copy it to the top of the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Greg_Lindberg" title="Talk:Greg Lindberg">Talk:Greg Lindberg</a> page (on the 2nd line) (and to fill in the parameters), </p><p>{{Connected contributor (paid)|User1=''InsertName''|U1-employer=''InsertName''|U1-client=''InsertName''|U1-otherlinks=''Insert relevant links, such as relevant affiliations, disclosures, article drafts written by paid editors, or diffs showing paid contributions being added to articles.''}} </p><p>The parameters should probably be filled out as follows (but please make sure that these are correct) |User1=<i>Mikec85</i>|U1-employer=<i>Apex International</i>|U1-client=<i>Greg Lindberg</i>|U1-otherlinks=<i>e.g. greglindberg.com, any other employee of your employer who is editing Wikipedia on this . </i> </p><p>and supply a clearly visible list of your paid contributions on your main user page.<a href="/wiki/User:Mikec85" title="User:Mikec85">User:Mikec85</a>, e.g. a list like (just fill in the proper times and dates: <b>My paid edits</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Greg_Lindberg" title="Greg Lindberg">Greg Lindberg</a> - 8 edits before December 21, 2019</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Greg_Lindberg" title="Greg Lindberg">Greg Lindberg</a> - December 21, 2019 - 1.01pm edt</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Greg_Lindberg" title="Greg Lindberg">Greg Lindberg</a> - December 21, 2019 - 2:23pm edt</li></ul> <p>More later, <a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> </p><p>I've been looking at your question <b>Can you kindly share why the Bribery is the sole focus here?</b> </p> <ul><li>There's lots of stuff on his education and the early part of his business career. <ul><li>I'll get rid of the childhood photo with the "inspirational" quote. Most editors here would consider that an embarassment.</li> <li>You should find a source that actually says "Yale magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa with an honors economics degree in 1993". This may be true but if we have to search on a private webcite that we are not allowed to view, it's not a good source.</li></ul></li> <li>The $50,000 donation isn't actually very much in the world of philanthropy. I'd leave it out. It makes him look like a cheapskate. This guy is supposedly a billionaire, right? <ul><li>The $1,000,000 donation in 4 future parts is pretty much the same thing. And how much is that promise going to be worth if he goes to jail?</li></ul></li> <li>"In the news" is not a section heading we use. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> <ul><li>The "Triangle Business Journal in the article “A Global Search for Talent and Great Ideas.”" is routine coverage - it just bores people.</li> <li>Use "Bribery indictment" or similar instead. It says what's going on.</li></ul></li> <li>The NPR and WSJ paragraphs are the heart of what's being published about his current business. <ul><li>But the parts about his lawyer saying he is innocent and pleading that the case should be dismissed - that is just routine - it happens in almost every case.</li> <li>ditto the I-was-set-up defense</li></ul></li> <li>If you want to cover the WRAL story about Lindberg acting weirdly in court it needs 2-3 paragraphs to understand what they are talking about. <ul><li>The 3 paragraph denial that Lindberg sent in 3 days after the story was published, should not be included in our article. It doesn't actually deny what was in the original article. But our readers can't see that if you don't include the original article in more detail.</li></ul></li> <li>What else do you want to include? It can't be promotional material for his business or routine court pleadings. <a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mikec85#c-Smallbones-2019-12-20T03:49:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 20 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smallbones-2019-12-20T03:49:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smallbones-2019-12-20T03:49:00.000Z-SPA_and_UPE?"></span></li></ul> <p><b>Ok, I understand the rules and editing requirements. To me, "Bribery Indictment/Charges" still seems very subjective. I have changed the title to "Recent Events" as that does not declare news or anything that misrepresents or promotes Mr. Lindberg. Can we agree on that title. I am working on acquiring the Yale graduation verification.</b> <b>I've also added the Contributor declaration on the talk page and the edits history on my page.</b> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration-2020-04-02T07:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration-2020-04-02T07:35:00.000Z"></span>Arbitration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration-2020-04-02T07:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikec85&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Arbitration"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dreamy_Jazz-2020-04-02T07:35:00.000Z-Arbitration"></span>In response to your request for arbitration of this issue, the Arbitration Committee has agreed that arbitration is not required at this stage. 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