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Any opinions either way? Feel free to comment either here or on<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23295"> #23295</a>.</p> <p>A simple way to test the above is by removing your login cookie while working in WordPress (Firebug works well).</p> <p>On <b>local autosaves</b>, there was a decision to pivot from the previous UX posted here, and instead integrate with the new revisions model. This code is still being worked on.</p> <p>In the land of <b>post locks</b>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/azaozz/" class="mention">@azaozz</a> posted a patch on<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23697"> #23697</a>, that shows a dialog either when you visit a locked post, or when your post becomes locked. If you are visiting an already locked post, you have the option to break the lock. This is still in need of UX/UI love, but looks like this currently:</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/files/2013/03/post_is_locked_ui.png"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/files/2013/03/post_is_locked_ui.png" alt="post_is_locked_ui" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3091"/></a></p> <p>Finally, a patch on<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23665"> #23665</a> allows for one autosave per user per post, rather than per post, to let us keep an autosave from before you lost a lock. Testing on this, and the rest of the above welcome!</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> lessbloat, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4e84843ebff0918d72ade21c6ee7b1e4?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/azaozz/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Andrew Ozz</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/76424a001dc6b3ebb4faca0c567800c4?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/DH-Shredder/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schroder</a>, and 1 other are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3089" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8189" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-06T20:24:04Z">8:24 pm <em>on</em> March 6, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/06/autosave-and-post-locking-35/#comment-8189" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F06%2Fautosave-and-post-locking-35%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8189" class="commentcontent"><p>I think the session expired modal should darken the rest of the page. It kind of blends in as-is.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8191" class="comment byuser comment-author-dh-shredder bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/76424a001dc6b3ebb4faca0c567800c4?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/DH-Shredder/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schroder</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-06T22:45:55Z">10:45 pm <em>on</em> March 6, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/06/autosave-and-post-locking-35/#comment-8191" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F06%2Fautosave-and-post-locking-35%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8191" class="commentcontent"><p>Agreed. I think that was initially left over from the “let’s let the user continue to work” mentality. If we’re going with “Your only path is to log back in,” then making it darken the rest of the page is appropriate.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8199" class="comment byuser comment-author-lessbloat even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> lessbloat <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T15:16:44Z">3:16 pm <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/06/autosave-and-post-locking-35/#comment-8199" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F06%2Fautosave-and-post-locking-35%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8199" class="commentcontent"><p>I agree with @MarkJaquith. I took a quick stab at mocking it up:</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://f.cl.ly/items/2g1j203U3y0M2g052N0p/log-in-notification.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/2g1j203U3y0M2g052N0p/log-in-notification.jpg"/></a></p> <ul> <li>Added a dark fullscreen overlay</li> <li>Added right: 35px; left: 35px; top: 35px; bottom: 35px; to #wp-auth-check</li> <li>Centered the login iframe</li> <li>Removed the “Session expired” title</li> <li>Removed the close link. If the whole point in doing this is to keep users from losing their work, I think we have to force it. The best thing they can do at this point is log back in, and continue on their way. If we do allow them to close it, and they click “publish”, they will be redirected to the login screen anyway, but once they log back in, they’ll discover (tragically) that all of their work has been lost.</li> <li>Tweaked the copy to read: “Oops… Your log in has expired. Please log back in below to avoid losing any of your work.”</li> </ul> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8200" class="comment byuser comment-author-azaozz odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4e84843ebff0918d72ade21c6ee7b1e4?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/azaozz/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Andrew Ozz</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T18:44:27Z">6:44 pm <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/06/autosave-and-post-locking-35/#comment-8200" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F06%2Fautosave-and-post-locking-35%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8200" class="commentcontent"><p>Was testing something similar too and agree it looks better. The only concern is that it will frighten the user when it shows.</p> <p>Most commonly this will show on the Add / Edit Post screen (as the users spend most time there). Imagine typing a new post, uploading images, etc. and suddenly the screen with your work disappears and is replaced by the login screen telling you to log in again. I bet two “scary” thoughts would go through your head: “What happened to my post?” and “This asks for my password, is it legit?”. Additionally the screen change will most likely cut you in the middle of a sentence and can literally startle you.</p> <p>In the original patch this was a two steps process: a non-modal (position fixed) warning shows first telling the user that the session has expired and asking to log in again. As the rest of the screen is visible this is not that scary (you can still see your work) and won’t startle you as most of the screen doesn’t change. Then clicking a link or a button in the warning opens the actual login screen in a modal.</p> <p>Perhaps this is a better solution. Yes, one more click, but better user experience.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8204" class="comment byuser comment-author-lessbloat even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> lessbloat <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-08T13:56:15Z">1:56 pm <em>on</em> March 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/06/autosave-and-post-locking-35/#comment-8204" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F06%2Fautosave-and-post-locking-35%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8204" class="commentcontent"><p>I think we can likely find a way to lessen the fear by getting the copy right. You could also bump the darker outer margin up (maybe double the margin), and perhaps lighten the opacity a tad, so that the user still can see some of the screen behind.</p> <p>I prefer the one step (taking them straight to the login form), vs. showing an intermediary step (which looks more suspect than the log in form with the logo above it, to be quite honest). If they’ve saved their login details, they only have to click once (on the “Log in” button), and they are right back to their writing.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <div class="respond-wrap" style="display: none; "> <div id="respond"> <h3 id="reply-title">Reply <small><a rel="nofollow" id="cancel-comment-reply-link" href="/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/#respond" style="display:none;">Cancel reply</a></small></h3> <p class="must-log-in">You must be <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F06%2Fautosave-and-post-locking-35%2F">logged in</a> to post a comment.</p> </div><!-- #respond --> </div></li> <li id="prologue-3083" class="post-3083 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-post tag-3-6 tag-theme tag-twentythirteen"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/lancewillett/" title="Posts by Lance Willett ( @lancewillett )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/lancewillett/" title="Posts by Lance Willett ( @lancewillett )">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-04T23:57:58Z">11:57 pm <em>on</em> March 4, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F04%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/theme/" rel="tag">theme ( 4 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/twentythirteen/" rel="tag">twentythirteen ( 4 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3083" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/">Twenty Thirteen project update, March 4 2013 </a></h2><p><strong>What we worked on last week</strong></p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/log/trunk/wp-content/themes/twentythirteen/?action=stop_on_copy&mode=stop_on_copy&rev=23574&stop_rev=23489&limit=100">Lots of fixes and improvements went in</a> — thanks to everyone who reported and patched and tested.</p> <p>Bigger items discussed:</p> <p>1. Fixing the sidebar (including discussion of dropping it completely). We decided to just swap primary and secondary sidebars for now. See<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23644"> #23644</a>.<br/> 2. Remove fixed navbar for mobile — yes, let’s remove it. See<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23647"> #23647</a>.<br/> 3. Keep fixed navbar for desktop for now, but next step is to switch site title to menu there, try that out.</p> <p>IRC logs: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/https://irclogs.wordpress.org/chanlog.php?channel=wordpress-dev&day=2013-02-26&sort=asc#m563611">Tue Feb 26 2013</a> | <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/https://irclogs.wordpress.org/chanlog.php?channel=wordpress-dev&day=2013-02-28&sort=asc#m565798">Thu Feb 28 2013</a></p> <p><strong>What we’re doing this week</strong></p> <p>More work on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&status=reviewing&component=Bundled+Theme&summary=~Thirteen&group=milestone&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&order=priority">open tickets</a>.</p> <p>Big items to tackle next:</p> <ul> <li>Post format support:<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23619"> #23619</a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23620"> #23620</a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23621"> #23621</a></li> <li>Sidebar / footer clearing, still no perfect CSS-only solution. JS techniques are next. See<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23557"> #23557</a>.</li> <li>Gallery styles: portrait sized images,<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23649"> #23649</a> — and caption styles,<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23584"> #23584</a>.</li> </ul> <p>Non-theme tickets that affect Twenty Thirteen’s progress:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/15080">#15080</a>: Comment Form Should use HTML5 input types for better accessibility</li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/15081">#15081</a>: Search Form should use type=’search’</li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20088">#20088</a>: Improve wp_list_comments() comment markup</li> </ul> <h3>Want to get involved?</h3> <p>View <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&status=reviewing&component=Bundled+Theme&summary=~Thirteen&group=milestone&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&order=priority">open tickets</a>.</p> <p>Join us in IRC during office hours and we can get you started on a ticket or task.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfcedfa253bbc53d62a701dbaa33907e?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://maorchasen.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Maor Chasen</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9d8c123b2435a504cb10d3380e461b57?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://robertdall.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">RDall</a>, and 1 other are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3083" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8183" class="comment byuser comment-author-monika even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/518f2a0fb595224fa459177d9e7c786b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.webdesign-in.de/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Monika</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-05T00:06:12Z">12:06 am <em>on</em> March 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/#comment-8183" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-05T03:35:32Z">3:35 am <em>on</em> March 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/#comment-8185" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F04%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8185" class="commentcontent"><p>Hi Monika—this topic is not related to this update on Twenty Thirteen, and I’m pretty sure the output you’re talking about is not theme-specific.</p> <p>Related discussion here: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/18547#comment:11" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/18547#comment:11</a> and probably a bunch of other tickets.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8186" class="comment byuser comment-author-rdall even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9d8c123b2435a504cb10d3380e461b57?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://robertdall.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">RDall</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-05T05:05:21Z">5:05 am <em>on</em> March 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/#comment-8186" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F04%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8186" class="commentcontent"><p>I will try to get to the IRC during office hours… I just downloaded Twenty Thirteen Yesterday to my dev build. I am not a fan of the fixed nav bar… I understand I could make a child them to alter this… But it just looks odd… Take for example a 17in monitor without widgets. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://cl.ly/image/3K303B150131" rel="nofollow">http://cl.ly/image/3K303B150131</a> I know I am late to the game… I know this has been previously discussed… Not asking to rehash something again… but just to give my “2cents” even if abet a bit late…</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8187" class="comment byuser comment-author-lancewillett bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-05T17:02:12Z">5:02 pm <em>on</em> March 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/#comment-8187" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F04%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8187" class="commentcontent"><p>If you can join us in IRC, that’d be great—otherwise thank you for your comment and feedback.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8202" class="comment byuser comment-author-maor even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dfcedfa253bbc53d62a701dbaa33907e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://maorchasen.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Maor Chasen</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T19:44:47Z">7:44 pm <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/03/04/twenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013/#comment-8202" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F03%2F04%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update-march-4-2013%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8202" class="commentcontent"><p>Ha! The GIF on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23647" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23647">#23647</a> is a killer!</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3080" class="post-3080 post type-post status-publish format-status hentry category-uncategorized tag-twentythirteen"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/nacin/" title="Posts by Andrew Nacin ( @nacin )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01cfe9feaafb068590891bbd1f6a7f5a?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/nacin/" title="Posts by Andrew Nacin ( @nacin )">Andrew Nacin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-28T19:18:24Z">7:18 pm <em>on</em> February 28, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/28/it-was-pointed-out-that-when-using-the/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F28%2Fit-was-pointed-out-that-when-using-the%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/twentythirteen/" rel="tag">twentythirteen ( 4 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3080" class="postcontent"> <p>It was pointed out that when using the WordPress Beta Tester plugin, Twenty Thirteen wasn’t being updated. As of<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/23529"> r23529</a>, that’s now fixed. If you update twice (once to get<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/23529"> r23529</a>, again to update the theme), you should be all set to test and contribute.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> is discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3080" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8165" class="comment byuser comment-author-lancewillett even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-28T20:38:30Z">8:38 pm <em>on</em> February 28, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/28/it-was-pointed-out-that-when-using-the/#comment-8165" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F28%2Fit-was-pointed-out-that-when-using-the%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8165" class="commentcontent"><p>This is great, thank you.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3074" class="post-3074 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/lessbloat/" title="Posts by lessbloat ( @lessbloat )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/lessbloat/" title="Posts by lessbloat ( @lessbloat )">lessbloat</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T16:40:55Z">4:40 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/27/menus-update-227/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F27%2Fmenus-update-227%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3074" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/27/menus-update-227/">Menus Update, 2/27 </a></h2><p>We’ve all been distracted with other stuff these past 2 weeks. DrewAPicture put together <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23607">a parent ticket</a> for all of the remaining menu items. </p> <p><strong>Remaining Tasks</strong></p> <ul> <li>Menu items as accordion (@jkudish)</li> <li>Show the menu select area at all times (@DrawAPicture)</li> <li>Additional menus accessibility (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/lessbloat/" class="mention">@lessbloat</a>)</li> <li>Menus help text changes (@DrawAPicture)</li> <li>Test delete link at the bottom (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/lessbloat/" class="mention">@lessbloat</a>)</li> </ul> <p>I’d like to try and wrap all of these up ASAP.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/100d7f127a250ac5007dc33b5e154329?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://corvannoorloos.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Cor van Noorloos</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> lessbloat, and <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3074" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8158" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T16:46:43Z">4:46 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/27/menus-update-227/#comment-8158" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F27%2Fmenus-update-227%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8158" class="commentcontent"><p>What’s the ticket?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8160" class="comment byuser comment-author-lessbloat bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> lessbloat <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T17:01:11Z">5:01 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/27/menus-update-227/#comment-8160" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F27%2Fmenus-update-227%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8160" class="commentcontent"><p>Sorry. That would be helpful, hey? <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley"/> Edited a link in there.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8168" class="comment byuser comment-author-corvannoorloos even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/100d7f127a250ac5007dc33b5e154329?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://corvannoorloos.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Cor van Noorloos</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-01T08:00:29Z">8:00 am <em>on</em> March 1, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/27/menus-update-227/#comment-8168" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F27%2Fmenus-update-227%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8168" class="commentcontent"><p>Hi Dave, I hope it still would be OK to have a few suggestions/comments?</p> <p>The <code>.nav-menus-php .delete-action a { color: #bc0b0b; }</code> currently is in the wrong color (should be red) and it missing the <code>1px 2px</code> padding.</p> <p>Besides that I think the new menu contains a bit to much info (or perhaps displayed at the wrong place).</p> <p>Instead of a complete walkthrough I’d prefer some strong statements like “No menu’s yet” as is done almost everywhere else.<br/> Or if required a general <code>.description</code> classed paragraph with some further explaination including some anekedote about Jazz.</p> <p>The <code>#nav-menu-header</code> also looks a bit awkward. Especially its height. (it always has, even though it’s looking <b>much</b> better now. +1)<br/> Have you thought about moving <code>.button button-primary</code><code> above and below the metabox?</code></p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3072" class="post-3072 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6 tag-post-formats"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/helen/" title="Posts by Helen Hou-Sandi ( @helen )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/helen/" title="Posts by Helen Hou-Sandi ( @helen )">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-22T20:56:46Z">8:56 pm <em>on</em> February 22, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/post-formats/" rel="tag">post formats ( 11 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3072" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/">Post Formats UI Update, 2/21 </a></h2><p>First run commit, mostly for soaking of functionality, went into trunk on Monday. This includes fallback output for theme compat and fields in the admin. The admin UI does not represent anything final – especially of note is the tabs, which are essentially the way they are in order to reuse CSS and avoid adding temporary code to core.</p> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#more-3072" class="more-link">(More …)</a></p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fd31a266dce0d06308e9736c8011953a?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> Anointed, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a 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src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/205e460b479e2e5b48aec07710c08d50?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://dentedreality.com.au/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Beau Lebens</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-22T22:59:06Z">10:59 pm <em>on</em> February 22, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8115" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8115" class="commentcontent"><p>Also of interest is<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23282"> #23282</a>, which adds audio and video players to core to handle those post formats (and optionally be used anywhere else).</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8118" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-23T00:53:40Z">12:53 am <em>on</em> February 23, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" 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rel="external nofollow" class="url">Harish Chouhan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-23T19:30:03Z">7:30 pm <em>on</em> February 23, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8127" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8127" class="commentcontent"><p>Is it final that mediaelement would be used?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8193" class="comment byuser comment-author-anointed odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fd31a266dce0d06308e9736c8011953a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Anointed <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T02:50:56Z">2:50 am <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8193" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8193" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m hoping that other systems other than medialementjs will be considered. Another ‘top” Option is definitely mwEmbed by Kaltura <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/https://github.com/kaltura/mwEmbed" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/kaltura/mwEmbed</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8194" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen bypostauthor even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T02:52:21Z">2:52 am <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8194" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8194" class="commentcontent"><p>Licensing?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8195" class="comment byuser comment-author-anointed odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fd31a266dce0d06308e9736c8011953a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Anointed <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T03:02:40Z">3:02 am <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8195" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8195" class="commentcontent"><p>All mwEmbed code is released under the AGPLv3 unless a different license for a particular library is specified in the applicable library path</p> <p>*I’m sure it could be adjusted if necessary</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8196" class="comment byuser comment-author-anointed even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fd31a266dce0d06308e9736c8011953a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Anointed <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-07T03:05:33Z">3:05 am <em>on</em> March 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8196" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8196" class="commentcontent"><p>Also, spend a few mins on the git site. Check the level of work put into this project over the years as one of the top active code sets on git. Then do a little digging into who kaltura is, (if you have watched a movie on an airplaine in the last few years, then odds are, it was built by kaltura). Bottom line, kaltura is one huge beast that would benefit both WP and Kaltura.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8125" class="comment byuser comment-author-hchouhan odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d02da2293e2b033825b24f37c85a332f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.harishchouhan.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Harish Chouhan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-23T18:54:31Z">6:54 pm <em>on</em> February 23, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8125" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8125" class="commentcontent"><p>Just a question,<br/> For the meta field Image, will only attachment ID work, or if in a theme we are saving URL of the image in the “_wp_format_image” field, once WP 3.6 is released, will it work?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8126" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-23T18:58:27Z">6:58 pm <em>on</em> February 23, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8126" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8126" class="commentcontent"><p>A URL will work – the media modal just hasn’t had that panel added yet.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8145" class="comment byuser comment-author-hchouhan odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d02da2293e2b033825b24f37c85a332f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.harishchouhan.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Harish Chouhan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-26T14:07:28Z">2:07 pm <em>on</em> February 26, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8145" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8145" class="commentcontent"><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/helen/" class="mention">@helen</a>,<br/> Currently the URL field for formats such as Link, Image & Quote is saved as _wp_format_url. Is this approach final? Or there is still chance of this being changed?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8147" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen bypostauthor even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-26T15:02:01Z">3:02 pm <em>on</em> February 26, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8147" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8147" class="commentcontent"><p>It shouldn’t really matter to you if the meta key name changes or not – we’ve already introduced get_post_format_meta() as a helper retrieval function. It might be helpful if you could explain why you are asking these questions.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8148" class="comment byuser comment-author-hchouhan odd alt depth-5"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d02da2293e2b033825b24f37c85a332f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.harishchouhan.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Harish Chouhan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-26T18:16:47Z">6:16 pm <em>on</em> February 26, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8148" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8148" class="commentcontent"><p>Hi Helen, since a year or more I have been using CF-Post-Format plugin which has different URL meta fields for Link & Quote format. I run a WordPress network and to avoid changes to my new themes in future, I am trying to follow the meta_key name based on WordPress 3.6. This will ensure I just have to remove the plugin when 3.6 is released.</p> <p>I also wanted to make a suggestion about Gallery meta box. Can you please let me know the best place to make that suggestion?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8149" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen bypostauthor even depth-5"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-26T18:22:18Z">6:22 pm <em>on</em> February 26, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8149" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8149" class="commentcontent"><p>We’re in active development – I would not change anything you are currently doing yet. You can make your suggestion here or on<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/19570"> #19570</a>.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8134" class="comment byuser comment-author-rudwolf odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/673cad2797b42372ee6b38c2c750ac4c?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://meucanto.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">rudwolf</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-25T03:41:32Z">3:41 am <em>on</em> February 25, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8134" 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<span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-25T19:07:04Z">7:07 pm <em>on</em> February 25, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8141" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8141" class="commentcontent"><p>No, post formats are not extensible and we will not be changing that.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8144" class="comment byuser comment-author-lancewillett odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-26T06:00:13Z">6:00 am <em>on</em> February 26, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8144" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8144" class="commentcontent"><p>I added a bunch of related tickets to for the default themes:</p> <p>Twenty Ten: gallery post format –<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23617"> #23617</a><br/> Twenty Eleven: gallery post format –<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/22907"> #22907</a><br/> Twenty Eleven: link post format –<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23618"> #23618</a><br/> Twenty Thirteen: link post format –<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23619"> #23619</a><br/> Twenty Thirteen: video and image post formats –<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23620"> #23620</a><br/> Twenty Thirteen: gallery post format –<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23621"> #23621</a></p> <p>Seems like only Twenty Thirteen will need <code>add_theme_support( 'structured-post-formats' );</code> at this time.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8182" class="comment byuser comment-author-lessbloat even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> lessbloat <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-04T18:35:58Z">6:35 pm <em>on</em> March 4, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8182" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8182" class="commentcontent"><p>Played with another design for the post formats selector this morning.</p> <p>Have a look:</p> <p><strong>On load</strong> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://f.cl.ly/items/160y3o2o3N1C0y1n0h1g/post-edit-ui-selector.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/160y3o2o3N1C0y1n0h1g/post-edit-ui-selector.jpg"/></a><br/> <strong>Active</strong> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://f.cl.ly/items/1v0l1734380Z1t0A450o/post-edit-ui-selector-active.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/1v0l1734380Z1t0A450o/post-edit-ui-selector-active.jpg"/></a><br/> <strong>Formats without a title</strong> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://f.cl.ly/items/0h1M0c3v0D0s1z2P103j/post-edit-ui-selector-no-title2.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/0h1M0c3v0D0s1z2P103j/post-edit-ui-selector-no-title2.jpg"/></a></p> <p>I figured it would be fairly discoverable, much less in your face than tabs, and work well for accessibility.</p> <p>Thoughts?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8190" class="comment byuser comment-author-smrubenstein odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/57b36d3c9aeecb76cfed635080c8f327?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/smrubenstein/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Seth Rubenstein</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-06T20:54:27Z">8:54 pm <em>on</em> March 6, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8190" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8190" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m a fan. Agreed, much less in your face than tabs. Discoverable but out of the way.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8188" class="comment byuser comment-author-drewapicture even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/95c934fa2c3362794bf62ff8c59ada08?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.werdswords.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Drew Jaynes (DrewAPicture)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-03-05T18:49:14Z">6:49 pm <em>on</em> March 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/22/post-formats-ui-update-221/#comment-8188" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F22%2Fpost-formats-ui-update-221%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8188" class="commentcontent"><p>I really like this a lot. It fits with the existing UI much more seamlessly and it’s discoverable enough while not completely taking over the post editor like the tabs.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3055" class="post-3055 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-post tag-3-6 tag-theme tag-twentythirteen"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/lancewillett/" title="Posts by Lance Willett ( @lancewillett )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/lancewillett/" title="Posts by Lance Willett ( @lancewillett )">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T18:58:47Z">6:58 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/theme/" rel="tag">theme ( 4 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/twentythirteen/" rel="tag">twentythirteen ( 4 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3055" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/">Twenty Thirteen project update </a></h2><p>The Twenty Thirteen team jumped into 3.6 with two two first office hours this week; things are off to a great start. We’re meeting in #wordpress-dev IRC on Tuesdays and Thursdays at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=17&min=00&sec=0&p1=0">17 UTC</a>.</p> <h3>Who we are</h3> <p>(These are WP.org usernames.)</p> <ul> <li>Leads: lancewillett and obenland</li> <li>Contributors joining us for office hours this week: johnbillion kwight clakeb karmatosed sabreuse taupecat jorbin bpetty MikeHansenMe georgestephanis jayjdk nacin</li> </ul> <p>Many other folks already contributed patches and tickets, <strong>thank you</strong>.</p> <h3>What we’re working on</h3> <p>Tuesday we started by dividing things up a bit:</p> <ul> <li>Color contrast and general accessibility (sabreuse and jorbin)</li> <li>Mobile behavior, the navbar and menu need some work (obenland, johnbillion, and karmatosed)</li> <li>Device testing (karmatosed)</li> <li>General bug reporting and patches (everyone)</li> </ul> <p>We also looked at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&status=reviewing&component=Bundled+Theme&summary=~Thirteen&group=milestone&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&order=priority">open tickets</a> for Twenty Thirteen.</p> <p>Thursday we had a more open discussion style. Based on people grabbing tasks I’ve added a “point person” in bold after each — if you want to jump in look for “Unassigned” here and drop a comment or ping me in IRC.</p> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#more-3055" class="more-link">(More …)</a></p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> Bryan Petty, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ce2a269e424156d79cb0c4e1d4d82db1?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.wp-tricks.co.il/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Rami Yushuvaev</a>, and 2 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3055" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8097" class="comment byuser comment-author-chipbennett even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1299e8d336a2d5faa4fc440d07ea44f8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.chipbennett.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chip Bennett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T19:05:37Z">7:05 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8097" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8097" class="commentcontent"><p>How can I help with Standard Theme Hooks? Related to the Theme Review Team, I have a vested interest in seeing standard Theme hooks ironed out, integrated into Twenty Thirteen, and then backported to Twenty Twelve and Twenty Eleven (and Twenty Ten?).</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8098" class="comment byuser comment-author-lancewillett bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T19:08:22Z">7:08 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8098" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8098" class="commentcontent"><p>Hi Chip—I’d say start by testing the latest patch on the ticket — and leave comments there in Trac if you see need for improvements.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8099" class="comment byuser comment-author-chipbennett even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1299e8d336a2d5faa4fc440d07ea44f8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.chipbennett.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chip Bennett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T19:12:50Z">7:12 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8099" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8099" class="commentcontent"><p>I’ve been running the “latest patch” in Oenology for many months. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> It looks like that ticket needs final decisions/consensus in order to move forward. I would be happy to submit a patch for Twenty Thirteen, but it would be somewhat counterproductive to do so before we’ve got those final decisions/consensus.</p> <p>Looking at that ticket, it appears that the status is “everyone agrees in principle, but there are minor disagreements on the finer points of implementation.” I’m happy to submit any patches necessary, but who makes the “where do we go from here” decision?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8107" class="comment byuser comment-author-lancewillett bypostauthor odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T23:56:27Z">11:56 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8107" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8107" class="commentcontent"><p>It’d be cool if you drove it forward.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8100" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T20:08:35Z">8:08 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8100" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8100" class="commentcontent"><p>In case anyone else is wondering (as I was) what the ticket is for Standard Theme Hooks, it’s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21506" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21506</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8101" class="comment byuser comment-author-lancewillett bypostauthor odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/ddc339d9565077190a08a9e5da7a5f44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://simpledream.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lance Willett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T20:43:51Z">8:43 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8101" 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2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8105" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8105" class="commentcontent"><p>And what about <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21256" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21256</a> ?</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8138" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-25T16:44:45Z">4:44 pm <em>on</em> February 25, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/21/twenty-thirteen-project-update/#comment-8138" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Ftwenty-thirteen-project-update%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8138" class="commentcontent"><p>The status of the 3.6+ requirement can be found in<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/13780"> #13780</a></p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3042" class="post-3042 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6 tag-revisions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/ethitter/" title="Posts by Erick Hitter ( @ethitter )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fcf17d516139b240f405706d6fc8fc10?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/ethitter/" title="Posts by Erick Hitter ( @ethitter )">Erick Hitter</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T21:45:16Z">9:45 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/revisions/" rel="tag">revisions ( 10 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3042" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/">Revisions Update, 2/19 </a></h2><p>Following two consecutive days of office hours, we’ve reached a consensus on what the UI should be for comparing a single revision to the current version of a post:</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/23396/comparing-one.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3045" alt="comparing-one" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/files/2013/02/comparing-one.png"/></a></p> <p>Based on the above mockup from @karmatosed, @adamsilverstein is continuing development of the new revisions interface on ticket<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23497"> #23497</a>.</p> <p>Once we have an acceptable, working prototype, we’ll revisit how to present the interface for comparing two different revisions. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/nacin/" class="mention">@nacin</a> suggested, and we generally agreed, that a single slider with two grabbers would likely be a workable approach, but we’ll discuss that further once the above interface is implemented.</p> <p>No progress to report on the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&status=reviewing&component=Revisions&milestone=3.6&group=type&col=id&col=summary&col=component&col=milestone&col=status&col=type&col=priority&order=priority">other tickets scoped for 3.6</a> as we’ve been focused on UI lately.</p> <p>[<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/https://irclogs.wordpress.org/chanlog.php?channel=wordpress-dev&day=2013-02-19&sort=asc#m559091">IRC log</a>]</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/https://make.wordpress.org/updates/2013/02/21/core-team-update-feb-20/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">WordPress › Core team update « Make.WordPress.Org Updates</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/067ed1cdcbec6bf1ab4999637f9cef73?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://aldo-roman.blogspot.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">aldo.roman</a>, and 3 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3042" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8049" class="comment byuser comment-author-bentrem even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2c2c2c8f9e42a145f54f257111c6e84d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Bentrem" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ben Tremblay</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T21:58:46Z">9:58 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/#comment-8049" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Frevisions-update-219%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8049" class="commentcontent"><p>1st thought: the chunks appear w/o context. (I imagine it with a snippet of before and after.) You okay with that?<br/> #JustSayin’</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8053" class="comment byuser comment-author-grantpalin odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/21ec4a8be46b7367360f2808fb5524c9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://grantpalin.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Grant Palin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T22:50:22Z">10:50 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/#comment-8053" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Frevisions-update-219%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8053" class="commentcontent"><p>Agreed, context is important. Just where in the document the shown snippet is located can make a dig difference.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8056" class="comment byuser comment-author-adamsilverstein even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/08001a0a424aed1382375a446ed690d6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://earthbound.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">adamsilverstein</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T23:27:58Z">11:27 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/#comment-8056" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Frevisions-update-219%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8056" class="commentcontent"><p>yes, for sure. </p> <p>although the mockup doesn’t make it clear, you will actually see your full document content, showing what has been removed, added (and what stayed the same), so the context is shown.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8092" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T15:23:20Z">3:23 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/#comment-8092" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Frevisions-update-219%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8092" class="commentcontent"><p>The chunks appear without context because the mockup happens to show a full post rewrite <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8074" class="comment byuser comment-author-aldoroman even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/067ed1cdcbec6bf1ab4999637f9cef73?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://aldo-roman.blogspot.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">aldo.roman</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T19:11:35Z">7:11 pm <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/revisions-update-219/#comment-8074" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Frevisions-update-219%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8074" class="commentcontent"><p>I follow the GIT (or others) DIFF as the mockup shows a ‘ + ‘ and a ‘ – ‘ signs, but I don’t think the end user will need them. Maybe the colours is enough and we can have a cleaner screen.</p> </div> </li> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3039" class="post-3039 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-post tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T16:46:38Z">4:46 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3039" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/">Dropping Editorial Flow </a></h2><p>I’ve decided to drop the Editorial Flow feature from the 3.6 roster. A few things happened. We looked into what the main feature (“forking” a published post and allowing it to be edited then reintegrated) would involve, and found that there were some really fundamental hurdles that were unlikely to be resolved in the time given. A lot of time was spent on the planning stage, and we just kept surfacing more questions. Moreover, because the hurdles were so low-level, they would have required a significant amount of time from a core lead like me, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/nacin/" class="mention">@nacin</a>, or <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/ryan/" class="mention">@ryan</a> — time that we just didn’t have to give this cycle due to other responsibilities. What that left was<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12706"> #12706</a> — a somewhat related ticket with a long-running monster patch. This similarly needed (and still needs) a core lead to dedicate a lot of time to planning, reviewing, and committing it. That might happen, or might not. It didn’t seem fair to keep <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/danielbachhuber/" class="mention">@danielbachhuber</a> and @kovshenin responsible for something that might or might not make it, subject to other people’s availability.</p> <p>Though disappointing, this effort wasn’t wasted. We learned a lot about the challenges involved, and we’re better positioned to tackle it in the future with more advance planning and a better understanding of the core team resources that need time dedicated to it.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ab1f64abf81653d5a60d78a86a26bec1?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/nbachiyski/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Nikolay Bachiyski</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/875f0f35ff2640e24b81fd98a46e94fb?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.robertlillywebdeveloper.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robert Lilly</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d22c48810052c48be3559293fa07f85f?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://scribu.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">scribu</a>, and 2 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-3039" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-8041" class="comment byuser comment-author-alsnd12 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a0ac0eb5f230b3a7a03e63013d849196?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://alisonfoxall.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Alison Foxall</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T16:49:48Z">4:49 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/#comment-8041" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Fdropping-editorial-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8041" class="commentcontent"><p>Understandable. I had been loosely following what was going on and it just seemed like a huge task to undertake. Looking forward to getting more involved in the future.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8043" class="comment byuser comment-author-markoheijnen odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3c0d20db0e8911bc94be89c0cd9c0399?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://markoheijnen.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Marko Heijnen</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T16:58:02Z">4:58 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/#comment-8043" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Fdropping-editorial-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8043" class="commentcontent"><p>I guess for 12706 it makes sense to develop it on Github. Like what happend with WP_Image_Editor. You still get an monster patch in the end but the changes can be better maintained. If I would make a change on the code now literally no one would find out precisely what I changed.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8064" class="comment byuser comment-author-nbachiyski even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ab1f64abf81653d5a60d78a86a26bec1?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/nbachiyski/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Nikolay Bachiyski</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T10:39:37Z">10:39 am <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/#comment-8064" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Fdropping-editorial-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8064" class="commentcontent"><p>This or we actually start using branches.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8045" class="comment byuser comment-author-scribu odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d22c48810052c48be3559293fa07f85f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://scribu.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">scribu</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T17:18:18Z">5:18 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/#comment-8045" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Fdropping-editorial-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8045" class="commentcontent"><p>Is there some place where the lessons learned from the planning stage are summarized?</p> <p>At the very least, links to some IRC logs would be good.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8047" class="comment byuser comment-author-rclilly even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/875f0f35ff2640e24b81fd98a46e94fb?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.robertlillywebdeveloper.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robert Lilly</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T20:45:36Z">8:45 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/19/dropping-editorial-flow/#comment-8047" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F19%2Fdropping-editorial-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8047" class="commentcontent"><p>Sorry to hear this won’t make it into the next release, but glad to realize that the issues involved are being thought through and that this will be addressed in the near future. I think this is a feature that is really needed whenever there is more than one person involved in creating/editing/maintaining posts.</p> <p>In my fantasy I’m imagining something like the Review feature of Microsoft Word, specifically the Track Changes and Add Comments functions.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3023" class="post-3023 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-post tag-3-6 tag-theme tag-twentythirteen"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:10:50Z">11:10 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/theme/" rel="tag">theme ( 4 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/twentythirteen/" rel="tag">twentythirteen ( 4 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3023" class="postcontent"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://twentythirteendemo.wordpress.com/"><img alt="Screen Shot 2013-02-18 at 5.15.50 PM" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/files/2013/02/Screen-Shot-2013-02-18-at-5.15.50-PM.png" width="874" height="200"/></a></p> <p>A first draft of the Twenty Thirteen theme is now in core, for your inspection and iteration. See:<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/23452"> r23452</a></p> <p>A <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://twentythirteendemo.wordpress.com/">demo site is available</a> for you to browse.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/matt/" class="mention">@matt</a> set the goals for this theme: a focus on blogging, and great support for post formats (which are getting attention on the backend in 3.6 as well). Under Matt’s guidance, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/joen/" class="mention">@joen</a> explored the artistic possibilities and was joined by <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/obenland/" class="mention">@obenland</a> and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/lancewillett/" class="mention">@lancewillett</a> in bringing it to fruition.</p> <p>What you’ll notice first is the colors. Way more use of color than a bundled WordPress theme has had before. Each post format has its own color, so each is distinct, yet they are all complimentary. The bold colors encourage authors to try out all the different formats. This color extends the full width of the window, which breaks your blog up into a lush, segmented timeline. This effect is even more pronounced on mobile browsers, where the screen can be dominated by one or two posts at a time, in all of their chromatic fullness.</p> <p>On closer inspection, you’ll notice details, like the font-based icons (“Genericons”, by <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/joen/" class="mention">@joen</a>) that scale up to any resolution or zoom level and can be easily recolored using CSS.</p> <p>You may notice some playful details, like the size-offset pagination arrows:</p> <p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3024" alt="Screen Shot 2013-02-18 at 4.52.23 PM" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/files/2013/02/Screen-Shot-2013-02-18-at-4.52.23-PM.png" width="668" height="134"/></p> <p>Or the 404 page (which I’ll leave to you to find).</p> <p>One of the goals of having a new theme every year was to give ourself room to experiment. That hasn’t really happened. We’ve been far too conservative, trying to make themes that work reasonably well for everyone, but don’t push boundaries too much. That changes with Twenty Thirteen. It’s hard not to have a strong feeling about the theme, one way or another. It defies you to give it a shrug or a kurt nod. Some of you will hate it. And that’s okay. We’ll still be shipping Twenty Twelve, which is an excellent base theme and a canvas on which you can build anything from a blog to a static content site. But with Twenty Thirteen we’re taking a bold stance: this theme was meant for blogging, and it’s not a blank canvas. It comes pre-marinated with playfulness and warmth and opinions.</p> <p>Twenty Thirteen really prefers a single column layout. Widgets live best in the footer, where jQuery Masonry bricks them together (but it supports a sidebar, if you really insist). Header images have a fixed width and height, and will be cropped at smaller resolutions, so the best choice is an artistic header where not 100% needs to be shown all the time (it ships with three).</p> <p>Now that we have a first draft of Twenty Thirteen in core, it’s time to start iterating and sanding off some of the rough edges. Accessibility is still important, even when making bold artistic statements, and I’d be surprised if we didn’t have work to do there. We’ll need testing on lots of different browsers and platforms, and with lots of different plugins. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/helen/" class="mention">@helen</a>‘s Post Format UI team will need to give feedback on upgrading Twenty Thirteen to use the new post format API functions that are available.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/lancewillett/" class="mention">@lancewillett</a> and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/obenland/" class="mention">@obenland</a> will be holding Twenty Thirteen office hours on Tuesdays and Thursdays at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=17&min=00&sec=0p1=0">1700 UTC</a>. Interested parties should make an effort to attend and help us get this beauty ready for beta!</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e2f1a13e0e82934711ef7d4bdcfe9744?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://brunoscopelliti.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">bru.scopelliti</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eed0e8d62f562daf038f182de7f1fd42?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://designsimply.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">designsimply</a>, <img alt="" 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://amyhendrix.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Amy Hendrix (sabreuse)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:18:08Z">11:18 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7972" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7972" class="commentcontent"><p>First impression: WOW</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7973" class="comment byuser comment-author-tw2113 odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a5d7c934621fa1c025b83ee79bc62366?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://michaelbox.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Michael Beckwith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:18:41Z">11:18 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7973" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7973" class="commentcontent"><p>Holy color!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7975" class="comment byuser comment-author-alsnd12 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a0ac0eb5f230b3a7a03e63013d849196?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://alisonfoxall.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Alison Foxall</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:24:10Z">11:24 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7975" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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Was there a reason for this or can this be changed by the user? And of course I\’m wondering if the user will be able to change those colors for each post format. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8005" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T02:26:56Z">2:26 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8005" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8005" class="commentcontent"><p>It’s a known issue, and something I’d like rectified. The dropdown menu that you get on small screens would be great up there. And colors could be overridden by a child theme — probably a lot of option overload if we exposed that.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7976" class="comment byuser comment-author-melchoyce even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2dc245d4cf9e5579dfb0e13e7dcb75db?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://choycedesign.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mel Choyce</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:30:09Z">11:30 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7976" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7976" class="commentcontent"><p>WOW, instant love! The colors are bold but harmonious, the type is GREAT, and it’s got such a fabulous funky retro futurist feel. Thumbs up!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7977" class="comment byuser comment-author-emiluzelac odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f39667f421e661fbd22a119ce33e6f76?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://themeid.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Emil Uzelac</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:34:24Z">11:34 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7977" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7977" class="commentcontent"><p>Pretty good for the first draft!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7980" class="comment byuser comment-author-xibe even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c16970a350d2de8ced3017a5a8514969?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://xavier.borderie.net/blog/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Xavier Borderie</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T23:46:52Z">11:46 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7980" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7980" class="commentcontent"><p>Wow indeed! I too was getting a feeling that the “clear white” theme spirit could feel overplayed if 2013 had it. I for one am very glad that the team is making such a bold move in a creative direction. I trust there will be enough theme option and color schemes so that users can make it their own in a few clicks.</p> <p>Great work!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7983" class="comment byuser comment-author-aradams odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3925addc85330895bd343f739f80ba09?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> aradams <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:10:30Z">12:10 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7983" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7983" class="commentcontent"><p>Love the colors, love the flow. Nice to see creativity unleashed on the default theme!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7984" class="comment byuser comment-author-ipstenu even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/abfd4ff9c24957f1a9f0435e23de1f73?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://halfelf.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:13:59Z">12:13 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7984" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7984" class="commentcontent"><p>Nice! Just … Amazingly nice. I’m gonna have to find a site to use that on. Maybe my own!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7985" class="comment byuser comment-author-micromaniac odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/213ce50b76c7c131c56cb703f6cb0f08?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.project-wp.nl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Marcel van der Horst</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:14:29Z">12:14 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7985" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7985" class="commentcontent"><p>Can’t wait to try it out..</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7986" class="comment byuser comment-author-brentleavitt even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/85352b9d5a50be6634287d582a207842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.sunswingmedia.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">BrentLeavitt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:22:41Z">12:22 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7986" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7986" class="commentcontent"><p>I find that to be just delightful!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7987" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://ran.ge/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:23:52Z">12:23 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7987" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7987" class="commentcontent"><p>So excited to have this in. It really is great!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7988" class="comment byuser comment-author-tonyscott even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ac4d373888c64bef65b832339f3768ab?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/tonyscott/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tony Scott</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:27:19Z">12:27 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7988" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7988" class="commentcontent"><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://genericons.com/" rel="nofollow">http://genericons.com/</a> seems to be behind a WP.com password.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7991" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://ran.ge/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:51:01Z">12:51 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7991" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7991" class="commentcontent"><p>The genericon site isn’t up yet. I think you can see the icons here for now: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://moc.co/a8c/genericons/example.html" rel="nofollow">http://moc.co/a8c/genericons/example.html</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7992" class="comment byuser comment-author-tonyscott even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ac4d373888c64bef65b832339f3768ab?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/tonyscott/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tony Scott</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:54:29Z">12:54 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7992" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7992" class="commentcontent"><p>Yep – got it!</p> <p>Many thanks Aaron.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8080" class="comment byuser comment-author-jonmanness odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/44460da7647e2f547ce3abc88ee05423?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.jonathanmanness.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">JonManness</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T21:21:07Z">9:21 pm <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8080" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8080" class="commentcontent"><p>@Aaron, the theme and genericons look great! Are there plans to create icons for SoundCloud, IMDb, Vimeo, and YouTube?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8157" class="comment byuser comment-author-designsimply even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eed0e8d62f562daf038f182de7f1fd42?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://designsimply.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">designsimply</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T16:38:26Z">4:38 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8157" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8157" class="commentcontent"><p>Vimeo and and a minimal YouTube icon have been added already! We might be able to add SoundCloud and IMDb in the future at some point too. I expect the font to grow. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8156" class="comment byuser comment-author-designsimply odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eed0e8d62f562daf038f182de7f1fd42?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://designsimply.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">designsimply</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T16:36:38Z">4:36 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8156" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8156" class="commentcontent"><p>You guys probably have noticed by now that <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://genericons.com/" rel="nofollow">http://genericons.com/</a> is live. I just added a post to themeshaper.com about them too, if you’re interested.<br/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://themeshaper.com/2013/02/27/genericons-icon-font/" rel="nofollow">http://themeshaper.com/2013/02/27/genericons-icon-font/</a></p> <p>I love icon fonts!</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7989" class="comment byuser comment-author-ryno267 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22bac44175a8d184f052df428668656d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ryno267/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chuck Reynolds</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:32:44Z">12:32 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7989" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7989" class="commentcontent"><p>Looking forward to the post format specific layouts and metadata.<br/> Would be nice if the video, once ‘fetched’, would autopopulate the title.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7990" class="comment byuser comment-author-mercime odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fae451be6708241627983570a1a1817a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://buddypress.org/community/members/mercime/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">@mercime</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T00:50:47Z">12:50 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7990" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7990" class="commentcontent"><p>Very Nice! Shades of BuddyPress <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7993" class="comment byuser comment-author-trishasalas even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6f10f5d44aa062e91b0cba561ec09379?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://pixeldustmedia.us/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">trishasalas</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T01:01:14Z">1:01 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7993" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7993" class="commentcontent"><p>…beautiful, you’ve managed to stick with the mimimal yet spice it up with jazzy colors. Instant LOVE <3</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7994" class="comment byuser comment-author-austyfrosty odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0c7de27d12098a36df8d5b6c0f86d094?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://austinpassy.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Austin Passy</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T01:03:10Z">1:03 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7994" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7994" class="commentcontent"><p>The theme demo looks great. Like the direction it heading in.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7995" class="comment byuser comment-author-jcastaneda even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6a536594efc08dd1ea8303e03776e926?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://josemcastaneda.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jose Castaneda</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T01:09:36Z">1:09 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7995" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7995" class="commentcontent"><p>Looking forward to testing the formats. Now to get home and uptade core.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7997" class="comment byuser comment-author-eduardozulian odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5036eff8c466556f4112b0fa4822e2ce?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/eduardozulian/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eduardo Zulian</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T01:36:32Z">1:36 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7997" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7997" class="commentcontent"><p>Just finished testing Twenty Thirteen with the new post formats scheme. Sweet. : )</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7999" class="comment byuser comment-author-bmonster99 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/689df283a180b15b96f822ee51b0248e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://beedragon.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Lori Berkowitz</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T01:37:51Z">1:37 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-7999" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7999" class="commentcontent"><p>Looks great! Also nice to see some post formats love <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8000" class="comment byuser comment-author-cais odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f9bb98e439bf7efdf51993e1e70957ae?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/cais/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Edward Caissie</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T01:39:49Z">1:39 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8000" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8000" class="commentcontent"><p>Except for the header trick … sorry, it’s just not doing anything for me.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8007" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T02:31:15Z">2:31 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8007" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8007" class="commentcontent"><p>What if it had menu access like the mobile menu?</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8001" class="comment byuser comment-author-ahortin odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/685a185234185f6d1242d48097c83f37?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://maddisondesigns.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Anthony Hortin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T02:00:01Z">2:00 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8001" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8001" class="commentcontent"><p>It’s lookin’ great so far! Well done to all involved!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8003" class="comment byuser comment-author-matt even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/767fc9c115a1b989744c755db47feb60?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://ma.tt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Matt Mullenweg</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T02:12:54Z">2:12 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8003" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8003" class="commentcontent"><p>It’s counterintuitive because this is a visually much more aesthetically opinionated base than we’ve had probably since Kubrick, but I think we’ll see a lot more customization and variations on Twenty Thirteen than Eleven or Twelve. It’s a delightful canvas to play on.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8006" class="comment byuser comment-author-jcastaneda odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6a536594efc08dd1ea8303e03776e926?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://josemcastaneda.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jose Castaneda</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T02:29:42Z">2:29 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8006" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8006" class="commentcontent"><p>I agree, it does seem like it can be a great starting point for future themes and child themes.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8050" class="comment byuser comment-author-pseudoxiah even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ca359cd4ed13e95e704ce53290f5d09?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.onedesigns.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Daniel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T22:10:52Z">10:10 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8050" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8050" class="commentcontent"><p>While the CSS is pretty opinionated, as you call it, the theme’s markup is clean and streamlined. I believe this is a canvas just as good as any other core bundled theme.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8013" class="comment byuser comment-author-jtsternberg odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/41215c4c449bd8b8b439e3d9ee949692?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/jtsternberg/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Justin Sternberg</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T04:25:13Z">4:25 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8013" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8013" class="commentcontent"><p>Nice work all around! I couldn’t help myself: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://jtsternberg.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jtsternberg.com/</a></p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8014" class="comment byuser comment-author-sovitranjitkar even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eddcb013a482973744fa1700822f67bc?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://themehorse.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Sovit - (Theme Horse)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T05:37:31Z">5:37 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8014" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8014" class="commentcontent"><p>This one will be the great example to show that without choosing white color can also make clean and beautiful theme. Love the way designer play the colors.<br/> Thanks to all contributors. Its really Fantastic ! Can’t wait to see it out in my themes directory.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8016" class="comment byuser comment-author-noel_tock odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/885c9f48988bfd9f008bbc1d13572510?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.noeltock.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Noel Tock</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T08:04:20Z">8:04 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8016" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8016" class="commentcontent"><p>Love the new direction, looking versatile and fluid, +1</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8018" class="comment byuser comment-author-ryanhellyer even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c822828d07eb9ea433404cb27f84c4d6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://geek.ryanhellyer.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan Hellyer</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T09:37:58Z">9:37 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8018" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8018" class="commentcontent"><p>And here I was thinking that WordPress default themes need to be bland and white.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8020" class="comment byuser comment-author-petya-r odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b5223ebc4690c47d881722e5adb3a177?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.mazelabs.bg/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Petya Raykovska</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T09:50:23Z">9:50 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8020" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8020" class="commentcontent"><p>Wow. Bold move, I love it. </p> <p>I’d make the main navigation sticky though, together with the search bar and the site name.</p> <p>And it would be great to have some color palettes to choose from as visually color is the first thing you experience with this theme.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8021" class="comment byuser comment-author-emzo even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e98a9031130d274a31d5a8b30c8dcd7b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> emzo <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T10:06:34Z">10:06 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8021" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8021" class="commentcontent"><p>Default WordPress themes have always been great, but they’ve needed to be versatile and cater to the majority, and in doing so have had to be more conservative. This puts the fun back into WordPress, and definitely brings a smile to my face. I do agree that the collapsed mobile menu should be placed in the fixed header when scrolling though.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8023" class="comment byuser comment-author-ldebrouwer odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e581f0158a922ec320311aa3ca780639?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.lucdebrouwer.nl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Luc De Brouwer</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T10:55:01Z">10:55 am <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8023" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8023" class="commentcontent"><p>This. Looks. Awesome.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8027" class="comment byuser comment-author-lonchbox even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8601939d8bec5039420d6bdfd8cd17df?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://lonchbox.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">lonchbox</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T12:14:30Z">12:14 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8027" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8027" class="commentcontent"><p>Excellent work! I love the post formats styles <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8029" class="comment byuser comment-author-sourceforge odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3094298ee1d4ce597e3b5319436e3e99?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> sourceforge <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T12:59:57Z">12:59 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8029" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8029" class="commentcontent"><p>there was a theme in tumblr directory by peter vidani, which used the colors for post types!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8033" class="comment byuser comment-author-monika even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/518f2a0fb595224fa459177d9e7c786b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.webdesign-in.de/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Monika</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T14:01:08Z">2:01 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8033" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8033" class="commentcontent"><p>it looks like Windows8 <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley"/> colorful and dizzying.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8034" class="comment byuser comment-author-mindctrl odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/312c5f5d2be71e9347abaf9e4a9058aa?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> mindctrl <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T14:12:57Z">2:12 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8034" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8034" class="commentcontent"><p>Nice and different direction. With this new bold approach, I’d like to see the base font size increased a bit more. Chrome is telling me it’s 16px, and with Source Sans Pro 16px looks more like 14px. It looks good and is easier to read at 18 or even 20px.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8036" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaronaiken even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/12fdccf1a735f7f0bbfc4732c218fb1c?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.aikenwebsolutions.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron Aiken</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T14:50:32Z">2:50 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8036" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8036" class="commentcontent"><p>Absolutely beautiful. Good work!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8037" class="comment byuser comment-author-adegans odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/70b56f2fbcdaf82e34471d97456fb2a7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.ajdg.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Arnan de Gans</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T15:15:04Z">3:15 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8037" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8037" class="commentcontent"><p>Sponsored by Ubuntu I see…</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8046" class="comment byuser comment-author-alex-ye even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eba70909d1752812495149883c41c86c?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.nashwan-d.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Nashwan Doaqan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T20:08:17Z">8:08 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8046" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8046" class="commentcontent"><p>It’s really a beautiful theme , but I don’t think It’s good to be a default theme ,It’s too colourful … Yes it’s different direction but many of WP users like the default themes because they are simple and have a less colours , I was thinking if you can make the colours system is optional in the theme control panel ….</p> <p>As I am seeing now , Its seems to be hard to use it as a framework , the default theme should be simple , clean , easy to customize and express WordPress main features !</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-8076" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://ran.ge/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T20:24:58Z">8:24 pm <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8076" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8076" class="commentcontent"><p>Twenty Twelve will still be packaged with WordPress too. I do however think this theme will actually be pretty easy to extend.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8086" class="comment byuser comment-author-emiluzelac even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f39667f421e661fbd22a119ce33e6f76?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://themeid.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Emil Uzelac</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T00:40:04Z">12:40 am <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8086" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8086" class="commentcontent"><p>This is actually going to be a perfect default Theme and honestly, very easy to customize as well. </p> <p>Colors are post formats and they can be changed or removed <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-8051" class="comment byuser comment-author-pseudoxiah odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ca359cd4ed13e95e704ce53290f5d09?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.onedesigns.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Daniel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-19T22:15:47Z">10:15 pm <em>on</em> February 19, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8051" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8051" class="commentcontent"><p>Is there a reason why the fixed navbar replaces the navigation menu with the site title? Doesn’t that pretty much defeat the purpose of the fixed navbar to provide better accessibility to the site’s navigation? Why would I need a static bar with just a link to the front page?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8057" class="comment byuser comment-author-dpaule even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/251f435844b86f462c9ac088c0975abe?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.whatsthebigidea.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">David Radovanovic</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T00:37:15Z">12:37 am <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8057" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8057" class="commentcontent"><p>ooooooooo, ahhhhhh – very awesome indeed! The long scrolling homepage, ever-adaptive elements, and I’m sure much more will be realized with a test drive. Thanks!! BTW – why the persistent header with banner on all pages? Am I alone in wondering why is the banner needed on pages other the homepage?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8059" class="comment byuser comment-author-jfarsen odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/915adb64fd263405a814788c5d1c7113?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://arseneault.ca/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jean-Francois Arseneault</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T05:35:05Z">5:35 am <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8059" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8059" class="commentcontent"><p>Surprised to still see ‘Links’ in there as a post type…</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8078" class="comment byuser comment-author-shazdeh even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0466f9ae4f90333eee0fc56dbc936186?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://tween.ir/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">shazdeh</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T21:03:04Z">9:03 pm <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8078" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8078" class="commentcontent"><p>Love at first sight. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8082" class="comment byuser comment-author-zgani odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01f66f47f7862f3573ede7a5cfd71306?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://bloinstallationservice.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Zulfikar Nore</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-20T22:47:06Z">10:47 pm <em>on</em> February 20, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8082" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8082" class="commentcontent"><p>Bold And Beautiful! A total change in direction from previous “Default” themes – this will make an awesome parent theme for developers to tinker with.</p> <p>Would like to chime in on the menu though….the sticky menu “bar” minus the menu is not doing it for me – I would like to see the menus as I scroll the page instead of a blank “bar”.</p> <p>Further more, since its bold in terms of color scheme – I would like to see the options to adjust the various sections incorporated in the Customizer’s Color section and not having to rely on changing them via child themes. As it is the child theme option would work for developer but not for the novice end user.</p> <p>But all in all, I’m totally loving what I see so far – now its time to go break it apart and see what I can conjure up <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8088" class="comment byuser comment-author-bjornsennbrink even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6e23858bd48f6c91574318a82394e0a8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.bjornsennbrink.se/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">bjornsennbrink</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T09:48:24Z">9:48 am <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8088" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8088" class="commentcontent"><p>What is up with the breaking of words in titles and in text? It was there in Twenty Twelve and is still around. Any insight on the word-breaking thingy would be great <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8091" class="comment byuser comment-author-alvarogois odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fa986d6c48555d9dc105e5f77958fab1?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.ovni.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">alvarogois</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T14:58:51Z">2:58 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8091" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8091" class="commentcontent"><p>Strange unanimity… I’m a guy who likes color and bold, though I’m more for minimal. I don’t understand this theme and can’t picture it as a default WordPress theme. Maybe the focus here is on blogs, I get it, and giving the author a panoplia of customization options. I get it too. Nevertheless, I fail to realise how one goes from twentytwelve to this twentythirteen. Sure, it’s a cut, but I don’t see it as a step forward, something new, more like something else. </p> <p>(I could be wrong, though… me and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8046" rel="nofollow">Nashwan Doaqan</a> up there…)</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8093" class="comment byuser comment-author-marco-raaphorst even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/326664b633a5f1d96078cf68a4a3920b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://marcoraaphorst.nl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Marco Raaphorst</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T15:55:40Z">3:55 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8093" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8093" class="commentcontent"><p>cool, love it!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8095" class="comment byuser comment-author-rilwis odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a2d93c6b2d52da8eaf11b934b3c23123?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.deluxeblogtips.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">rilwis</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T17:32:59Z">5:32 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8095" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8095" class="commentcontent"><p>Amazing theme. I like it and have a good feeling when I see it at first. It’s great when you can push the boundaries so far. It’s time to show people that WordPress is easy to customize.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8102" class="comment byuser comment-author-wordpresssites even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d5279c8b66d25549a0ec3c8dd46a3d1a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://wpsites.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Brad Dalton</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T21:16:17Z">9:16 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8102" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8102" class="commentcontent"><p>Its like it or not based on my readers feedback. Personally i love it but also know you guys could seriously blow the socks off any premium theme out there. Built in hooks and conditional tags is where its headed i think. WordPress theme users are smarter now and want more. They understand the basics of coding. Extend further.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8103" class="comment byuser comment-author-tomjanski odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c1c0fcafa705507caef97715796ce148?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://wpaction.pl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">tomjanski</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-21T21:44:08Z">9:44 pm <em>on</em> February 21, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8103" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8103" class="commentcontent"><p>The bold colors and bold theme. Bravo. It’s going to be a good one.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8108" class="comment byuser comment-author-bungeshea even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/97ae8906bcccc535ddf52bbd5474fda8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://bungeshea.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Shea Bunge</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-22T04:39:53Z">4:39 am <em>on</em> February 22, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8108" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8108" class="commentcontent"><p>Wow… really, really good. It”d be nice to get the default theme out early this year. (I;ve always thought that the annual themes should be released at the <em>start</em> of the year, not the <em>end</em> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8112" class="comment byuser comment-author-lisafirke odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0d926e1fd6c596392b9965e95bbc82e8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.lisafirke.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">lisafirke</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-22T15:34:06Z">3:34 pm <em>on</em> February 22, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8112" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8112" class="commentcontent"><p>Gorgeous and playful. Bravo!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8132" class="comment byuser comment-author-tatianeps even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f1051817b421b9c6fc4510ef41dc7ffe?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://tatianeps.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tatiane Pires</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-24T15:06:08Z">3:06 pm <em>on</em> February 24, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8132" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8132" class="commentcontent"><p>Great!<br/> I can’t wait to make a new theme for my blog based on Twentythirteen.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8154" class="comment byuser comment-author-suzybyrnes odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/64e6e38e584f572b83d590436e051e70?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://suzybyrnes.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">suzybyrnes</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T12:54:59Z">12:54 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8154" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8154" class="commentcontent"><p>love the full width. Agree with comments about fixed nav bar. Look forward to seeing what people do with it. Thanks v much.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-8159" class="comment byuser comment-author-bruscopelliti even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e2f1a13e0e82934711ef7d4bdcfe9744?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://brunoscopelliti.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">bru.scopelliti</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-27T16:50:51Z">4:50 pm <em>on</em> February 27, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/introducing-twenty-thirteen/#comment-8159" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F02%2F18%2Fintroducing-twenty-thirteen%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-8159" class="commentcontent"><p>What I have seen is very promising. Can’t wait the release</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-3012" class="post-3012 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6 tag-revisions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/ethitter/" title="Posts by Erick Hitter ( @ethitter )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fcf17d516139b240f405706d6fc8fc10?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/ethitter/" title="Posts by Erick Hitter ( @ethitter )">Erick Hitter</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-02-18T17:22:52Z">5:22 pm <em>on</em> February 18, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/revisions-update-218/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 53 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/revisions/" rel="tag">revisions ( 10 )</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-3012" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/02/18/revisions-update-218/">Revisions Update, 2/18 </a></h2><p>We’ve scheduled an additional office hours for <strong>Tuesday, February 19, at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=20&min=00&sec=0p1=0">2000 UTC</a></strong> in #wordpress-dev.</p> <p>During today’s meeting, we reviewed @adamsilverstein’s prototype on<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23497"> #23497</a>, which led to a lengthy discussion about how the prototype related to our mockups, specifically <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/23396/revisions9.png">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/23396/revisions9.png</a>.</p> <p>@karmatosed will prepare a revised mockup for tomorrow that incorporates the slider introduced in<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130308152728/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23497"> #23497</a>, and @adamsilverstein will tweak the prototype as well so that comparing a revision to the current version is the default behaviour.</p> <p>The feeling is that we’re straying from our intended goals, and I didn’t want to wait until our Thursday office hours to refocus. 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