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However I think it is necessary to classify which one of the Kurdish dialects it is. Kurdish language family consists of many major dialects: Kurmanji, Sorani, Palewani, Zaza and Gorani. Mostly spoken among these are Kurmanji and Sorani.<br> I am guessing the Kurdish listed in Common Voice is the Sorani dialect since it is predominantly written in the Perso-Arabic script.<br> I would like to collect voice samples in Kurmanji dialect, which is written in latin-based Hawar script and spoken by 15 million people.<br> Would it be possible to add it to Pontoon as a new language so that Kurmanji speakers can also contribute?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> <div class='crawler-linkback-list' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/ItemList'> <div itemprop='itemListElement' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/ListItem'> <a itemprop='url' href="https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/kurdish-kurmancji-langugage-is-not-listed/60842/3">Kurdish(kurmancji) langugage is not listed</a> <meta itemprop='position' content='1'> </div> </div> </div> <div id='post_2' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/nukeador'><span itemprop='name'>nukeador</span></a> (Rubén Martín [❌ taking a break from Mozilla]) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-03-25T12:13:47Z' class='post-time'> March 25, 2020, 12:13pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-02T11:39:51Z'> <span itemprop='position'>2</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>If the language is on our standard list, it can be added to pontoon as a new language:</p> <p><a href="https://unicode-org.github.io/cldr-staging/charts/37/supplemental/languages_and_scripts.html" class="onebox" target="_blank">https://unicode-org.github.io/cldr-staging/charts/37/supplemental/languages_and_scripts.html</a></p> <p>If it’s not listed there as a language, we’ll capture phonetic differences through accents. Today I’ll be posting an big update on our language and accents strategy.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_3' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/nukeador'><span itemprop='name'>nukeador</span></a> (Rubén Martín [❌ taking a break from Mozilla]) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-03-25T17:41:23Z' class='post-time'> March 25, 2020, 5:41pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-03-25T17:41:23Z'> <span itemprop='position'>3</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Published now: <a href="https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/common-voice-languages-and-accent-strategy-v5/56555/" class="inline-onebox">Common Voice languages and accent strategy v5</a></p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_4' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/Fatih_Kurt'><span itemprop='name'>Fatih_Kurt</span></a> (Fatih Kurt) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-01T23:54:07Z' class='post-time'> June 1, 2020, 11:54pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-01T23:54:07Z'> <span itemprop='position'>4</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>do we have any updates here? We still dont have Kurmanji with latin script option.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_5' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/nukeador'><span itemprop='name'>nukeador</span></a> (Rubén Martín [❌ taking a break from Mozilla]) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-02T11:43:35Z' class='post-time'> June 2, 2020, 11:43am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-02T11:43:35Z'> <span itemprop='position'>5</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Can you help us understand which language are you referring to?</p> <p>I see:</p> <ul> <li>Central Kurdish <a href="https://unicode-org.github.io/cldr-staging/charts/37/supplemental/languages_and_scripts.html#ckb">ckb</a> N Arabic</li> <li>Kurdish <a href="https://unicode-org.github.io/cldr-staging/charts/37/supplemental/languages_and_scripts.html#ku">ku</a> N Arabic Cyrillic Latin</li> <li>Southern Kurdish <a href="https://unicode-org.github.io/cldr-staging/charts/37/supplemental/languages_and_scripts.html#sdh">sdh</a> N Arabic</li> </ul> <p>Thanks!</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_6' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/Fatih_Kurt'><span itemprop='name'>Fatih_Kurt</span></a> (Fatih Kurt) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-02T12:15:51Z' class='post-time'> June 2, 2020, 12:15pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-02T12:17:25Z'> <span itemprop='position'>6</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>I am referring to Northern Kurdish (ku) in Latin script. (Honestly I dont think this dialect is used in Arabic or Cyrillic script at all. Latin should be sufficient.)</p> <p>I am seeing the language in the list, but strangely I cannot contribute to that. Is there any other process involved in that?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_7' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/nukeador'><span itemprop='name'>nukeador</span></a> (Rubén Martín [❌ taking a break from Mozilla]) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-02T12:20:48Z' class='post-time'> June 2, 2020, 12:20pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-02T12:20:48Z'> <span itemprop='position'>7</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>OK, I see where the issue is coming from, the Kudish enabled on pontoon was localized using the Arabic script instead of the Latin one.</p> <p>We are currently investigating how we can enable a language with different scripts. Let me circle back to the team since we need to understand how to make our platform support this.</p> <p>Thanks for your patience.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_8' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/osmanoca'><span itemprop='name'>osmanoca</span></a> (Osman mamoste) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-03T10:52:52Z' class='post-time'> June 3, 2020, 10:52am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-03T10:52:52Z'> <span itemprop='position'>8</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>For kurdish language now there are 3 common active dialects<br> 1- Kurmanji</p> <ul> <li>the most common dialect in kurdish - usage latin 95%<br> so you can write kurmanci as kurdish(kurmanji)<br> -kurmanji -usage arabic 5% this very little<br> you can write its name in arabic as kurdish(کورمانجی)</li> </ul> <p>2-Sorani -arabic<br> you can write its name as kurdish(سورانی)</p> <p>3-Zazaki - latin kurdish(zazaki)</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_9' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/nukeador'><span itemprop='name'>nukeador</span></a> (Rubén Martín [❌ taking a break from Mozilla]) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-03T13:57:45Z' class='post-time'> June 3, 2020, 1:57pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-03T13:57:45Z'> <span itemprop='position'>9</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>It would great if you could check the list I linked to let us know which locale codes are you referring to. In the list there are no common names, just Kurdish and the script used.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_10' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/osmanoca'><span itemprop='name'>osmanoca</span></a> (Osman mamoste) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-03T17:21:00Z' class='post-time'> June 3, 2020, 5:21pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-03T17:21:00Z'> <span itemprop='position'>10</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>ok in that list kurdish is so:<br> |Kurdish|[ku]</p> <p>|Arabic|Arab||<br> |Cyrillic|Cyrl|<br> |Latin|Latn|</p> <p>Then as this list you will show kurdish in three names<br> 1-Kurdish /Arabic<br> 2-Kurdish/Cyrillic<br> 3-Kurdish/Latin</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_11' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/nukeador'><span itemprop='name'>nukeador</span></a> (Rubén Martín [❌ taking a break from Mozilla]) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-06-03T17:34:43Z' class='post-time'> June 3, 2020, 5:34pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-06-03T17:34:43Z'> <span itemprop='position'>11</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Thanks for the info, we are still scoping how to support different scripts, which is something we haven’t done yet.</p> <p>I’ve passed this to the dev team and we will come back once we have more clarity on a plan. Thanks for your patience!</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_12' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/ftyers'><span itemprop='name'>ftyers</span></a> (Francis Tyers) </span> <link itemprop="image" href="https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/mozilla/original/3X/9/d/9ddfc886b6ef7e4a2353dd5858b6d08b41e214cc.png"> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-08-21T12:28:07Z' class='post-time'> August 21, 2020, 12:28pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-08-22T10:12:05Z'> <span itemprop='position'>12</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>I brought this up with the Pontoon/Localisation team in February. Here is what I wrote:</p> <blockquote> <p>I just went to look at Kurdish in Pontoon, and it appears that the two-letter language code, ‘ku’ is being used for Sorani (Southern) Kurdish<br> Usually the two letter code is used for Kurmanji (Northern) Kurdish. But it might be better to just use the three-letter codes:<br> ckb – Sorani<br> kmr – Kurmanji<br> Examples from Wikipedia:<br> <a href="https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destp%C3%AAk" class="inline-onebox">Wîkîpediya</a><br> <a href="https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%DB%95%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%BE%DB%8E%DA%A9" class="inline-onebox">ویکیپیدیا، ئینسایکڵۆپیدیای ئازاد</a><br> I don’t know what the process is for changing this, or if it can be changed.<br> Thanks!<br> Fran</p> </blockquote> <p><a class="mention" href="/u/osmanoca">@osmanoca</a> <a class="mention" href="/u/fatih_kurt">@Fatih_Kurt</a> <a class="mention" href="/u/ok_alp">@ok_alp</a> I recommend getting in contact with the <a href="https://pontoon.mozilla.org/contributors/kLNZGKM4NhAncVUoV2CSjc9gEDA/">Locale lead for Kurdish</a> on Pontoon, Davud Kakaie.</p> <p>Please feel free to reply here, or visit us on Matrix, in <a href="https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#common-voice:mozilla.org" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">#Common Voice</a> and in <a href="https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#pontoon:mozilla.org" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">#Pontoon</a>.</p> <p>I brought the issue up on <a class="hashtag-cooked" href="/c/pontoon/258" data-type="category" data-slug="pontoon" data-id="258"><span class="hashtag-icon-placeholder"><svg class="fa d-icon d-icon-square-full svg-icon svg-node"><use href="#square-full"></use></svg></span><span>Pontoon</span></a> just now:<br> <div class="lightbox-wrapper"><a class="lightbox" href="https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/mozilla/original/3X/9/d/9ddfc886b6ef7e4a2353dd5858b6d08b41e214cc.png" data-download-href="/uploads/short-url/mwCpOzmR93Mev72pmiAkmNNKDWA.png?dl=1" title="Captura de 2020-08-21 13-36-19"><img src="https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/mozilla/optimized/3X/9/d/9ddfc886b6ef7e4a2353dd5858b6d08b41e214cc_2_690x483.png" alt="Captura de 2020-08-21 13-36-19" data-base62-sha1="mwCpOzmR93Mev72pmiAkmNNKDWA" width="690" height="483" 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<div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_13' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/ftyers'><span itemprop='name'>ftyers</span></a> (Francis Tyers) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-08-25T20:06:05Z' class='post-time'> August 25, 2020, 8:06pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-08-25T20:06:05Z'> <span itemprop='position'>13</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>The Common Voice team are now planning to remove <code>ku</code> and migrating the content to <code>ckb</code>, here is the issue:<br> <a href="https://github.com/mozilla/common-voice/issues/2886" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://github.com/mozilla/common-voice/issues/2886</a></p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <span class='post-likes'>1 Like</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_14' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/roseman'><span itemprop='name'>roseman</span></a> (Roseman) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-08-26T18:12:24Z' class='post-time'> August 26, 2020, 6:12pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-08-26T18:12:24Z'> <span itemprop='position'>14</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Expected confusion. When I first began working on translating Common Voice I did contact Peipying about the expected situation for Kurdish, stemming from the fact that Kurdish includes 2 major dialects, Centrak (ckb) primarily using Arabic script and Kurmanji being based on Latin. I also spoke about the possiblity of adding ckb so I could work on translating that, however the decision back then was to continue with the current status until further notice. Now is the time to act. Considering that most Kurdish population speaks Kurmanji, keeping ku as general for Kurdish is also possible, however sticking with ISO codes is the best we can do: ckb (Sorani/Central-Arabic) and kmr (Kurmanji)</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <span class='post-likes'>1 Like</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_15' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/ftyers'><span itemprop='name'>ftyers</span></a> (Francis Tyers) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-08-26T18:49:22Z' class='post-time'> August 26, 2020, 6:49pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-08-26T18:49:22Z'> <span itemprop='position'>15</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Yep, I agree with this. I am trying to contact the Kurmanji speakers from this post, with some success, but if you know anyone else, please consider passing it on.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_16' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/ftyers'><span itemprop='name'>ftyers</span></a> (Francis Tyers) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-09-01T19:25:35Z' class='post-time'> September 1, 2020, 7:25pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-09-01T21:42:08Z'> <span itemprop='position'>16</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Update on Kurmanji:</p> <ul> <li>Kurmanji is now in Pontoon: <a href="https://pontoon.mozilla.org/kmr/">https://pontoon.mozilla.org/kmr/</a> </li> <li>Kurmanji Common Voice is now in Pontoon: <a href="https://pontoon.mozilla.org/kmr/common-voice/">https://pontoon.mozilla.org/kmr/common-voice/</a> </li> <li>Now just waiting for sentence-collector!</li> </ul> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <span class='post-likes'>2 Likes</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_17' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/mbranson'><span itemprop='name'>mbranson</span></a> </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2020-09-01T23:10:14Z' class='post-time'> September 1, 2020, 11:10pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2020-09-01T23:10:14Z'> <span itemprop='position'>17</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Thanks for the persistence and follow up all. <img src="https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=9" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:"></p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <span class='post-likes'>1 Like</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_18' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://discourse.mozilla.org/u/Mesut_Keskin'><span itemprop='name'>Mesut_Keskin</span></a> (Mesut Keskin) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-04-30T16:11:02Z' class='post-time'> April 30, 2024, 4:11pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-04-30T16:11:02Z'> <span itemprop='position'>18</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Dear ladies and gentlemen,</p> <p>Kurdish consists of 3 languages: Kurmanjî (Northern), Soranî (Central) and Kalhurî (Southern).<br> Zazaki and Gorani/Hawrami are independent northwest Iranian languages. So also it’s the linguistic classification. There is no linguisitic reason or argument to classify Zazaki among Kurdish.</p> <p>I ask to correct the classification of Zazaki in Mozilla to “Zazaki”.<br> The phrase “Kurdî (Zazakî)” would sound like “German (English)” or “Farsî (Kurdî)”</p> <p>Best regards</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <span class='post-likes'>1 Like</span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer class="container wrap"> <nav class='crawler-nav'> <ul> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='/' itemprop="url">Home </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='/categories' itemprop="url">Categories </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='/guidelines' itemprop="url">Guidelines </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/terms/mozilla/' itemprop="url">Terms of Service </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='https://www.mozilla.org/privacy/websites/' itemprop="url">Privacy Policy </a> </span> </li> </ul> </nav> <p class='powered-by-link'>Powered by <a href="https://www.discourse.org">Discourse</a>, best viewed with JavaScript enabled</p> </footer> <div class="buorg"><div>Unfortunately, <a href="https://www.discourse.org/faq/#browser">your browser is unsupported</a>. 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