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2022.</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" style="width:100%"><table class="article-history-milestones mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%;font-size:90%"><tbody><tr><th colspan="3" style="font-size:110%"><span style="float:left"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="On this day..."><img alt="On this day..." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/20px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/30px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></a></span></span> Article milestones</th></tr><tr style="text-align:left"><th>Date</th><th>Process</th><th>Result</th></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=84090069">October 27, 2006</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Armenian_Genocide/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Armenian Genocide/archive1">Peer review</a></b></td><td>Reviewed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=169853722">November 7, 2007</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide/Archive_18#GA_Review" title="Talk:Armenian genocide/Archive 18">Good article nominee</a></b></td><td>Not listed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=202978830">April 4, 2008</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Armenian_Genocide/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Armenian Genocide/archive1">Featured article candidate</a></b></td><td>Not promoted</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=565431716">July 23, 2013</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Armenian_Genocide/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Armenian Genocide/archive2">Peer review</a></b></td><td>Reviewed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=607974101">May 10, 2014</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Armenian_Genocide/archive3" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Armenian Genocide/archive3">Peer review</a></b></td><td>Reviewed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=611750336">June 5, 2014</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide/GA1" title="Talk:Armenian genocide/GA1">Good article nominee</a></b></td><td>Not listed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=805259789">October 21, 2017</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide/GA2" title="Talk:Armenian genocide/GA2">Good article nominee</a></b></td><td>Not listed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=805259789">April 24, 2021</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide/GA3" title="Talk:Armenian genocide/GA3">Good article nominee</a></b></td><td>Listed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=1024585367">June 16, 2021</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/Armenian_Genocide" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Armenian Genocide">WikiProject A-class review</a></b></td><td>Approved</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=1031889052">July 4, 2021</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Armenian_genocide/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Armenian genocide/archive1">Featured article candidate</a></b></td><td>Not promoted</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_genocide&oldid=1069967007">February 5, 2022</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Armenian_genocide/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Armenian genocide/archive2">Featured article candidate</a></b></td><td>Promoted</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="width:100%"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" 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font-size:11.9px;"> <hr /> This page has archives. </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p><p><br /> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect-20240721183200"><span id="Infobox_text_in_.E2.80.9CArmenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire.E2.80.9D_incorrect"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect-20240721183200"></span>Infobox text in “Armenians in the Ottoman Empire” incorrect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect-20240721183200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240721183200-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect"></span>There is a miscount in the Infobox to the right of the “Armenians in the Ottoman Empire” subtitle. Another of the editors’ absurdities. Listed are five vilayets but then the text says that they represented “the six most heavily Armenian-populated Ottoman vilayets”. Sivas, the sixth one, is missing, dearest editors. And one falsification of an RS text in ref. 4. Nowhere on p. 279 does Kévorkian (<a href="/wiki/The_Armenian_Genocide:_A_Complete_History" title="The Armenian Genocide: A Complete History">The Armenian Genocide: A Complete History</a>) say that these vilayets were “the six most heavily Armenian-populated Ottoman vilayets”. This is what the author says on p. 279, ad verbum: “According to the figures presented in the previous chapter, of the 2,925 towns and villages of the empire in which Armenians lived, no fewer than 2,084 were located on the Armenian high plateau, properly speaking – that is, in the vilayets of Erzerum, Van, Bitlis, Mamuret ul-Aziz, and Dyarbekir.” By the way, did I mention that Kévorkian uses “the Armenian high plateau” and not “Anatolia” in this particular clause? Cheers<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240721183200-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240721183200-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240721183200-Infobox_text_in_“Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire”_incorrect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700-73.173.64.115-20240721183200"></span>Good points. The caption now includes Sivas, and the text more closely matches Kevorkian's village-based analysis. There is still a problem, since Kevorkian doesn't use the "Six Villayets" concept explicitly on the page cited. Also, if we want to introduce the "Six Villayets", just doing so in this caption is odd. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700-73.173.64.115-20240721183200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700-73.173.64.115-20240721183200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700-73.173.64.115-20240721183200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240723165800-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700"></span>Thank you.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240723165800-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240723165800-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240723165800-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240723181600-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700"></span>During the <a href="/wiki/Congress_of_Berlin" title="Congress of Berlin">Congress of Berlin</a> in 1878, these vilayets were referred to as Six Armenian Vilayets, not Six Vilayets.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240723181600-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240723181600-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240723181600-Firefangledfeathers-20240723155700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700-73.173.64.115-20240723181600"></span>Yes, but the cluster is given so many names by the sources, and I'd prefer to use the title of the linked article. You might want to propose a move of the linked article if you think that "Six Armenian Vilayets" would be a better title. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700-73.173.64.115-20240723181600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700-73.173.64.115-20240723181600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700-73.173.64.115-20240723181600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240724154700-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700"></span>Six Armenian Vilayets (or, more precisely, "the provinces inhabited by the Armenians") was the name originally figuring in the official documents of the 1878 <a href="/wiki/Congress_of_Berlin" title="Congress of Berlin">Congress of Berlin</a>. Turks, of course, labored to drop anything "Armenian" in their "best" traditions, and I'm sorry to say, the title of the linked article, <a href="/wiki/Six_Vilayets" title="Six Vilayets">Six Vilayets</a>, follows this Turkish preference. Whereas one would think the title must have followed the original name version and not the Turkish distortion.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240724154700-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240724154700-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240724154700-Firefangledfeathers-20240723194700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalists_literally_fought_against_the_CUP…" data-mw-thread-id="h-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis-20240728083100"><span id=".E2.80.9CCUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists.E2.80.9D_is_hypocrisy.2C_the_Turkish_nationalists_literally_fought_against_the_CUP.E2.80.A6"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis-20240728083100"></span>“CUP regrouped as Turkish nationalists” is hypocrisy, the Turkish nationalists literally fought against the CUP…<span data-mw-comment-end="h-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis-20240728083100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Youprayteas-20240728083100-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis"></span>Yeah, someone care to explain? <a href="/wiki/User:Youprayteas" title="User:Youprayteas">Youprayteas</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Youprayteas" title="User talk:Youprayteas"><sup>talk</sup></a><sup>/</sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Youprayteas" title="Special:Contributions/Youprayteas"><sup>contribs</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Youprayteas-20240728083100-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Youprayteas-20240728083100-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Youprayteas-20240728083100-“CUP_regrouped_as_Turkish_nationalists”_is_hypocrisy,_the_Turkish_nationalis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buidhe-20240728102700-Youprayteas-20240728083100"></span>What you wrote is not really true and the sources that say so are decades out of date. This was Zürcher's big contribution and now most historians changed their view (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe"><span style="color: black">buidhe</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Buidhe-20240728102700-Youprayteas-20240728083100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buidhe-20240728102700-Youprayteas-20240728083100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buidhe-20240728102700-Youprayteas-20240728083100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Youprayteas-20240728190900-Buidhe-20240728102700"></span>The Istanbul Government is the CUP… which was allied to the Entente… which was fighting Turkish nationalists… <a href="/wiki/User:Youprayteas" title="User:Youprayteas">Youprayteas</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Youprayteas" title="User talk:Youprayteas"><sup>talk</sup></a><sup>/</sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Youprayteas" title="Special:Contributions/Youprayteas"><sup>contribs</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Youprayteas-20240728190900-Buidhe-20240728102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Youprayteas-20240728190900-Buidhe-20240728102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Youprayteas-20240728190900-Buidhe-20240728102700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buidhe-20240728200100-Youprayteas-20240728190900"></span>You've got it backwards. The CUP as an organization didn't outlast World War I, but most of the leading figures in the Turkish Nationalist movement were ex-CUP. If you doubt me, there are literally three sources cited in the article, I would recommend checking them out. (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe"><span style="color: black">buidhe</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Buidhe-20240728200100-Youprayteas-20240728190900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buidhe-20240728200100-Youprayteas-20240728190900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buidhe-20240728200100-Youprayteas-20240728190900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?-20240728172500"><span id="How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?-20240728172500"></span>How to contact editors with extra privileges?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?-20240728172500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728172500-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?"></span>I understand there are Wikipedia editors who have responsibilities or an ability to perform certain administrative actions, called “editors with extra privileges”, if I’m not mistaken? Could anyone visiting this Talk page (other than these two, for the love of God, (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe">buidhe</a></b> and <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>)) help with how such editors can be contacted? The highhandedness of the authors and editors of this article, who refuse to implement RS-based edits containing significant viewpoints in violation of Wikipedia’s policies and who are involved in falsification of original source texts, needs to stop for the common good of the entire Wikipedia community. Thank you in advance.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240728172500-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728172500-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240728172500-How_to_contact_editors_with_extra_privileges?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_administrators" title="Category:Wikipedia administrators"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buidhe-20240728180200-73.173.64.115-20240728172500"></span>Category:Wikipedia administrators</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe"><span style="color: black">buidhe</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Buidhe-20240728180200-73.173.64.115-20240728172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buidhe-20240728180200-73.173.64.115-20240728172500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buidhe-20240728180200-73.173.64.115-20240728172500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728181500-Buidhe-20240728180200"></span>I said "other than this one (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe">buidhe</a></b>". Are you deaf and dumb?<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240728181500-Buidhe-20240728180200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728181500-Buidhe-20240728180200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240728181500-Buidhe-20240728180200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240728181700-73.173.64.115-20240728181500"></span>You pinged us. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Firefangledfeathers-20240728181700-73.173.64.115-20240728181500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240728181700-73.173.64.115-20240728181500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firefangledfeathers-20240728181700-73.173.64.115-20240728181500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20240728182000-73.173.64.115-20240728172500"></span>As an uninvolved administrator... I'm not sure what sort of intervention you're looking for here. To be clear, administrators also do not have the final call on content decisions, as they are instead determined by a consensus of all editors. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Elli-20240728182000-73.173.64.115-20240728172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20240728182000-73.173.64.115-20240728172500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20240728182000-73.173.64.115-20240728172500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728182100-Elli-20240728182000"></span>Thanks for this. What administrative actions do they perform then? Could you elaborate?<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240728182100-Elli-20240728182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728182100-Elli-20240728182000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240728182100-Elli-20240728182000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20240728182400-73.173.64.115-20240728182100"></span>Uh, all sorts of stuff? You can see some information on the role at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">Wikipedia:Administrators</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Elli-20240728182400-73.173.64.115-20240728182100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20240728182400-73.173.64.115-20240728182100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20240728182400-73.173.64.115-20240728182100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728182600-Elli-20240728182400"></span>Thank you for responding to my inquiry. Have a nice day.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240728182600-Elli-20240728182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728182600-Elli-20240728182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240728182600-Elli-20240728182400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728183900-73.173.64.115-20240728182600"></span>I don't remember that there has ever been a consensus on this Talk page re: the number of Armenians killed, Armenian total population numbers, and the name of historical Armenian habitat. The author's and editors' highhandedness must therefore be reported and an administrative sanction imposed. Will look into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">Wikipedia:Administrators</a> for that. Thanks again.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115" title="Special:Contributions/73.173.64.115">73.173.64.115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:73.173.64.115" title="User talk:73.173.64.115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-73.173.64.115-20240728183900-73.173.64.115-20240728182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a>Davidian<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.173.64.115-20240728183900-73.173.64.115-20240728182600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.173.64.115-20240728183900-73.173.64.115-20240728182600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Note_to_self:_new_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Note_to_self:_new_sources"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Note_to_self:_new_sources"></span>Note to self: new sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Note_to_self:_new_sources"></span></h2></div> <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite id="CITEREFAkçam2023" class="citation book cs1">Akçam, Taner (2023). "The Armenian Genocide: An Overview". <i>The Cambridge World History of Genocide: Volume 3: Genocide in the Contemporary Era, 1914–2020</i>. Cambridge University Press. pp. <span class="nowrap">67–</span>92. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-1-108-76711-8" title="Special:BookSources/978-1-108-76711-8"><bdi>978-1-108-76711-8</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Armenian+Genocide%3A+An+Overview&rft.btitle=The+Cambridge+World+History+of+Genocide%3A+Volume+3%3A+Genocide+in+the+Contemporary+Era%2C+1914%E2%80%932020&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E67-%3C%2Fspan%3E92&rft.pub=Cambridge+University+Press&rft.date=2023&rft.isbn=978-1-108-76711-8&rft.aulast=Ak%C3%A7am&rft.aufirst=Taner&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AArmenian+genocide" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite id="CITEREFAkçam2024" class="citation journal cs1">Akçam, Taner (2024). "Top-Down and Local Violence in the Late Ottoman Empire: The Role of Security Concerns and a Century of "Accumulated Experience"<span class="cs1-kern-right"></span>". <i>Journal of Genocide Research</i>. <b>26</b> (2): <span class="nowrap">121–</span>141. <a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1080%2F14623528.2022.2127488">10.1080/14623528.2022.2127488</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Journal+of+Genocide+Research&rft.atitle=Top-Down+and+Local+Violence+in+the+Late+Ottoman+Empire%3A+The+Role+of+Security+Concerns+and+a+Century+of+%E2%80%9CAccumulated+Experience%E2%80%9D&rft.volume=26&rft.issue=2&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E121-%3C%2Fspan%3E141&rft.date=2024&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1080%2F14623528.2022.2127488&rft.aulast=Ak%C3%A7am&rft.aufirst=Taner&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AArmenian+genocide" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sayfo" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sayfo-20241205211100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sayfo-20241205211100"></span>Sayfo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sayfo-20241205211100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo"></span>Should the introduction not include the <a href="/wiki/Sayfo" title="Sayfo">Sayfo</a>? This was the systematic genocide of the Assyrian, Chaldean, and Syriac peoples, committed by the Ottoman Empire and their collaborators, the Kurdish tribes and other local Muslim Arab populations of the area. The intro should read something like this: </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd></dd></dl></dd></dl> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">The <b>Armenian genocide</b><sup id="cite_ref-names_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-names-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>a<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>' was the systematic destruction of the <a href="/wiki/Armenians_in_the_Ottoman_Empire" title="Armenians in the Ottoman Empire">Armenian people and identity</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Sayfo" title="Sayfo">Assyrian, Chaldean, and Syriac</a> peoples in the <a href="/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a> during <a href="/wiki/World_War_I" title="World War I">World War I</a>.<i></i> </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>Considering the fact that, based on various sources, the number of Assyrians alone (not including Chaldean) who fell victim to Ottoman/Turkish, Kurdish, and Arab persecutions between 1895 and 1925 was 800,000-1,100,000. Of these, between 150,000-400,000 (most reliable number is considered to be around 250,000 Assyrians) perished in the <a href="/wiki/Sayfo" title="Sayfo">Sayfo</a>, which occurred concurrently with and was closely related to the Armenian genocide (which in reality was more of a Christian genocide than just an Armenian genocide). Assyrian and Chaldean deaths comprised almost half of the genocide deaths in the "Armenian genocide." <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:FJZAJV&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:FJZAJV (page does not exist)">FJZAJV</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FJZAJV" title="User talk:FJZAJV">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 5 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo-1"></span>Sources: </p> <ul><li><small> * <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite id="CITEREFDonef2017" class="citation book cs1">Donef, Racho (2017). "Sayfo and Denialism: A New Field of Activity for Agents of the Turkish Republic". <i>Let Them Not Return: Sayfo – The Genocide Against the Assyrian, Syriac, and Chaldean Christians in the Ottoman Empire</i>. <a href="/wiki/Berghahn_Books" title="Berghahn Books">Berghahn Books</a>. pp. <span class="nowrap">205–</span>218. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-1-78533-499-3" title="Special:BookSources/978-1-78533-499-3"><bdi>978-1-78533-499-3</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=Sayfo+and+Denialism%3A+A+New+Field+of+Activity+for+Agents+of+the+Turkish+Republic&rft.btitle=Let+Them+Not+Return%3A+Sayfo+%E2%80%93+The+Genocide+Against+the+Assyrian%2C+Syriac%2C+and+Chaldean+Christians+in+the+Ottoman+Empire&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E205-%3C%2Fspan%3E218&rft.pub=Berghahn+Books&rft.date=2017&rft.isbn=978-1-78533-499-3&rft.aulast=Donef&rft.aufirst=Racho&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AArmenian+genocide" class="Z3988"></span></small></li> <li><small> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite id="CITEREFGaunt_et_al.2017" class="citation book cs1">Gaunt, David; Atto, Naures; Barthoma, Soner O. (2017). "Introduction: Contextualizing the Sayfo in the First World War". <i>Let Them Not Return: Sayfo – The Genocide Against the Assyrian, Syriac, and Chaldean Christians in the Ottoman Empire</i>. <a href="/wiki/Berghahn_Books" title="Berghahn Books">Berghahn Books</a>. pp. <span class="nowrap">1–</span>32. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-1-78533-499-3" title="Special:BookSources/978-1-78533-499-3"><bdi>978-1-78533-499-3</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=Introduction%3A+Contextualizing+the+Sayfo+in+the+First+World+War&rft.btitle=Let+Them+Not+Return%3A+Sayfo+%E2%80%93+The+Genocide+Against+the+Assyrian%2C+Syriac%2C+and+Chaldean+Christians+in+the+Ottoman+Empire&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E1-%3C%2Fspan%3E32&rft.pub=Berghahn+Books&rft.date=2017&rft.isbn=978-1-78533-499-3&rft.aulast=Gaunt&rft.aufirst=David&rft.au=Atto%2C+Naures&rft.au=Barthoma%2C+Soner+O.&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AArmenian+genocide" class="Z3988"></span></small></li> <li><small>* <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite id="CITEREFGaunt2011" class="citation book cs1">Gaunt, David (2011). "The Ottoman Treatment of the Assyrians". <a href="/wiki/A_Question_of_Genocide" class="mw-redirect" title="A Question of Genocide"><i>A Question of Genocide: Armenians and Turks at the End of the Ottoman Empire</i></a>. <a href="/wiki/Oxford_University_Press" title="Oxford University Press">Oxford University Press</a>. pp. <span class="nowrap">245–</span>259. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-19-978104-1" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-19-978104-1"><bdi>978-0-19-978104-1</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Ottoman+Treatment+of+the+Assyrians&rft.btitle=A+Question+of+Genocide%3A+Armenians+and+Turks+at+the+End+of+the+Ottoman+Empire&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E245-%3C%2Fspan%3E259&rft.pub=Oxford+University+Press&rft.date=2011&rft.isbn=978-0-19-978104-1&rft.aulast=Gaunt&rft.aufirst=David&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AArmenian+genocide" class="Z3988"></span></small></li></ul> <p><br /> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:FJZAJV&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:FJZAJV (page does not exist)">FJZAJV</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FJZAJV" title="User talk:FJZAJV">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 5 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FJZAJV-20241205211100-Sayfo-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bitspectator-20241220051100-FJZAJV-20241205211100"></span>Which sources describe the Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac genocides as part of the Armenian genocide? The Wiki article for <a href="/wiki/Sayfo" title="Sayfo">Sayfo</a> distinguishes it from the Armenian genocide. <a href="/wiki/User:Bitspectator" title="User:Bitspectator"><span style="color:#3366cc;font-family:Trebuchet MS">Bitspectator</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bitspectator" title="User talk:Bitspectator"><span style="border-radius:1em;background:linear-gradient(#d8d29a 60%, #3366cc 40%)">⛩️</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Bitspectator-20241220051100-FJZAJV-20241205211100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bitspectator-20241220051100-FJZAJV-20241205211100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bitspectator-20241220051100-FJZAJV-20241205211100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buidhe-20241220062000-Bitspectator-20241220051100"></span>It's complicated, but IMO most of the Sayfo cannot be considered simply a part or even a spill over of the Armenian genocide. (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe"><span style="color: black">buidhe</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Buidhe-20241220062000-Bitspectator-20241220051100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buidhe-20241220062000-Bitspectator-20241220051100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buidhe-20241220062000-Bitspectator-20241220051100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923" data-mw-thread-id="h-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923-20250108073900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923-20250108073900"></span>End date of 1917 instead of 1923<span data-mw-comment-end="h-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923-20250108073900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nlblough-20250108073900-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923"></span>I strongly oppose the change of the date to 1917 as opposed to 1923. Genocide was not only committed by the CUP/Ottoman Empire, but also by TNC and Ataturk. The genocide continued in systematic massacres of Armenian (many of who returned from deportations), but also in economic and cultural erasure. The article discusses how the Genocide ‘ended 2000 years of Armenian residence to the region.’ If that is the case, you simply have to expand the date to 1923, because TNC/ Ataturk’s policy were the final nail in the coffin. From systematic massacres, such as the aftermath of the Battle of Maras; to seizure of most Armenian property, and the systematic destruction of Armenian heritage (Ani being one of several examples); it’s hard to justify their exclusion. Would like to hear the moderators argument, of keeping those events-which truly did end Armenian presence in the region-from inclusion in the genocide. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nlblough&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nlblough (page does not exist)">Nlblough</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nlblough&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Nlblough (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Nlblough-20250108073900-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nlblough-20250108073900-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nlblough-20250108073900-End_date_of_1917_instead_of_1923"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buidhe-20250108144500-Nlblough-20250108073900"></span>As it's possible to make the case either way, this is why I support removing the infobox. However, most sources end it at 1916, 1917, or 1918 so I don't support changing it. (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe"><span style="color: black">buidhe</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_genocide#c-Buidhe-20250108144500-Nlblough-20250108073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buidhe-20250108144500-Nlblough-20250108073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buidhe-20250108144500-Nlblough-20250108073900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buidhe-20250108145900-Buidhe-20250108144500"></span>A more nuanced version of the infobox, but less helpful to our readers, would go something like follows:</dd> <dd>Location</dd> <dd>Ottoman Empire (but also parts of Iran and arguably the Republic of Turkey)</dd> <dd>Date</dd> <dd>1915–1917 (some sources start at 1914 or earlier, and you can see 1916, 1918, 1923 or the present as end dates)</dd> <dd>Target</dd> <dd>Ottoman Armenians (but some would bundle in Assyrians and perhaps Greeks)</dd> <dd>Attack type</dd> <dd>Genocide, death march, Islamization</dd> <dd>Deaths</dd> <dd>600,000–1.5 million</dd> <dd>Perpetrators</dd> <dd>Committee of Union and Progress (but also random ottoman Muslims, Kurdish tribes, ottoman bureaucracy etc.) (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buidhe" title="User talk:Buidhe">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Buidhe" title="Special:Contributions/Buidhe">c</a>) <b><a href="/wiki/User:Buidhe" title="User:Buidhe"><span style="color: black">buidhe</span></a></b> <a 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