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class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=110197&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">Joram</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-01T02:18:08+00:00">October 1st, 2010, 2:18 am</time> </p> <div class="content">I never know where to post questions/comments about a mainline campaign. <img class="smilies" src="./../images/smilies/icon_augh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":augh:" title="Augh"> <br> <br> Anyway, here I am. Not wishing to start an argument, since my opinion really doesn't matter, but I thought I'd lodge a minor complaint over changing Relnan to a female. I simply feel that a man fits the role better. There is a camaraderie that develops between men thrown in tough situations with each other over and over again that just doesn't happen the same way when there's a woman involved. Relnan and Baldric struck me as old friends who had been through it all together. The message at the end reinforced that. Now... it's somewhat spoiled. <img class="smilies" src="./../images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":(" title="Sad"> <br> <br> Since I haven't even played the campaign with said changes, there's all the more reason to ignore me. <img class="smilies" src="./../images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":mrgreen:" title="Mr. Green"></div> <div id="sig459129" class="signature">The Fires of Pride 0.3, a heavily story based campaign.<br> On hold while I try and finish my book</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p459143" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile459143"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=104773&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img src="//secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3d4e9fedab340332415341b909f4814f?s=100" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=104773&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #8621FF;" class="username-coloured">Iris</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Site Administrator</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=104773&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">6800</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> November 14th, 2006, 5:54 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Chile</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact Iris"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact Iris</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://irydacea.me/" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content459143"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=459143&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p459143">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=459143&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=459143&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p459143" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=104773&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #8621FF;" class="username-coloured">Iris</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-01T05:14:33+00:00">October 1st, 2010, 5:14 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Joram wrote:</cite>Relnan and Baldric struck me as old friends who had been through it all together. The message at the end reinforced that. Now... it's somewhat spoiled. <img class="smilies" src="./../images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":(" title="Sad"> </div></blockquote> Baldras, not Baldric.<br> <br> After playing the campaign on trunk a few days ago (where Relnan is still male), I have to agree with Joram, although I'm not completely sure why. There's just something in the narrative that feels fitting only for a male Relnan. Now apparently Baldras has an unseen wife according to his death event line, so it'd feel even more weird if there was yet another close female character. Overall, this sounds like a change being made for the sake of a change, and not for any strong reasons in particular.</div> <div id="sig459143" class="signature"><span style="font-size:90%;line-height:116%">Author of the unofficial UtBS sequels <a class="postlink" href="//forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=43309"><em class="text-italics">Invasion from the Unknown</em></a> and <a class="postlink" href="//forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=32091"><em class="text-italics">After the Storm</em></a>.</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p459628" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile459628"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=121964&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=121964_1346817248.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=121964&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #CC0066;" class="username-coloured">Mountain_King</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Translator</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=121964&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">569</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 31st, 2010, 7:54 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content459628"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=459628&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p459628">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=459628&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=459628&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p459628" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=121964&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #CC0066;" class="username-coloured">Mountain_King</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-04T06:40:32+00:00">October 4th, 2010, 6:40 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Maybe Relna will be his sister...though that still doesn't quite make sense within the storyline and character studies... ah well. <blockquote><div><cite>Joram wrote:</cite> Relnan and Baldras struck me as old friends who had been through it all together. The message at the end reinforced that. 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I just started Liberty again today, and it really makes no sense to me. Why is this?</div> <div id="sig460226" class="signature">"Oh, to the hades with the manners - he's a complete [censored], and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"<br> -Nalia De'Arnise</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p460425" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile460425"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=107763&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=107763_1228101269.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=107763&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">Mica</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=107763&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">577</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 4th, 2007, 5:18 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content460425"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460425&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460425">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=460425&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460425&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460425" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=107763&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">Mica</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-09T22:58:39+00:00">October 9th, 2010, 10:58 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Just a minor suggestion, instead of peasant, why not ruffian? Since ruffian is the level 0 for the outlaws.</div> <div id="sig460425" class="signature">Mica says one who cheats, cheats himself.<br> <br> You are an Elvish Shyde - Beautiful, natural, and helpful, though sometimes under-appreciated.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p460468" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile460468"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=123332&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=123332_1323978519.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=123332&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">Reepurr</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=123332&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">1088</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 29th, 2010, 5:38 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content460468"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460468&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460468">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=460468&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460468&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460468" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=123332&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">Reepurr</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-10T11:22:04+00:00">October 10th, 2010, 11:22 am</time> </p> <div class="content">For Scenario 2, Ruffian is a bad idea, because they're villagers and Peasants, rather than crazy rogues.<br> <br> I know of no other places where Peasants are used in Liberty, but then I haven't played it for a loooong time. Since 1.7, in fact.</div> <div id="sig460468" class="signature">"What do you mean, "a dwarvish dragonguard with marksman is overpowered"?"<br> <br> <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31729" class="postlink">Story of a Drake Outcast</a> | <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=31752" class="postlink">The Nonsense Era</a><br> Played HttT-Underground Channels? 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There's only 3. I was suggesting the ruffian image, or the footpad (as that's what they used for the units)</div> <div id="sig460559" class="signature">Mica says one who cheats, cheats himself.<br> <br> You are an Elvish Shyde - Beautiful, natural, and helpful, though sometimes under-appreciated.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p460690" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile460690"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=117108&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">monochromatic</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=117108&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">1549</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 18th, 2009, 1:45 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content460690"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460690&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460690">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=460690&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460690&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460690" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=117108&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">monochromatic</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-11T20:13:16+00:00">October 11th, 2010, 8:13 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I'm not sure whether I should post this here because I don't have any replays to backup my assumptions. But I'll say anyway, and if I get a useful replay I'll post it.<br> <br> It is of my opinion that the Rogue Mage line is strangely balanced. The lvl 1 seems fine, but the lvl 2 seems underpowered as the lvl3 seems overpowered. I would like to propose the following revision:<br> <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>Rogue Mage - level 1 30HP 6MP 55XP 17 gold short sword 5-3 melee blade ice blast 7-2 ranged cold magical Shadow Mage - level 2 43HP 6MP 120XP 39 gold (leadership) magical blade 7-3 melee blade magical shadow blast 10-2 ranged cold magical Shadow Lord - level 3 54HP 6MP 56 gold (leadership) astral blade 9-3 melee blade magical shadow bolt 13-2 ranged cold magical shadow blast 7-3 ranged impact magical Basically, I drastically reduced the costs of the Shadow Mage/Lord (it was ridiculous before), increased the hitpoints of the Shadow Mage/Lord, decreased the experienced needed for the Shadow Mage, boosted the attacks of the Shadow Mage, revised the attacks of the Shadow Lord, and renamed a number of the attacks.</code></pre></div> But I don't know, I don't have replays to prove that these units are strangely balanced. I just remember from experience and know that now it is strange to play them at the moment. Also, when the animations for the new sprites are in, do you guys think these guys could be wired into core? <span style="font-size:50%;line-height:116%">That's because I'm planning a campaign featuring outlaws, and I want these guys in.</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p460705" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile460705"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=914&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=914_1218291216.png" width="84" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=914&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">zookeeper</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">WML Wizard</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=914&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">9742</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> September 11th, 2004, 10:40 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Finland</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content460705"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460705&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460705">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=460705&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460705&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460705" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=914&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">zookeeper</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-11T23:06:23+00:00">October 11th, 2010, 11:06 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Thanks, looks like good suggestions; I've committed almost all of them as-is.<br> <br> However, I feel that we should be doing more to make these guys more interesting: at the very least I think the Shadow Lord should get something new and unique either as an ability or as a weapon special on his second magic attack. <img class="smilies" src="./../images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif" width="17" height="16" alt=":hmm:" title="Pensive"></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p460708" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile460708"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=117108&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">monochromatic</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=117108&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">1549</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 18th, 2009, 1:45 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content460708"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460708&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460708">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=460708&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460708&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460708" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=117108&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">monochromatic</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-11T23:31:40+00:00">October 11th, 2010, 11:31 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">A wild idea, but how about nightstalk? I guess I came up with that with the outlaw play-style in mind: fast, light, elusive, and hard-hitting at night. Plus the implications in the name (Shadow).<br> Or, with dark magic in mind, maybe de-illumination? (Of course with a better name).</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p460735" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile460735"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108870&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=108870_1414989857.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108870&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">Astoria</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Inactive Developer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=108870&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">1007</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 20th, 2008, 5:54 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Netherlands</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content460735"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460735&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460735">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=460735&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=460735&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p460735" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108870&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">Astoria</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-12T06:24:12+00:00">October 12th, 2010, 6:24 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>elvish_sovereign wrote:</cite>A wild idea, but how about nightstalk? I guess I came up with that with the outlaw play-style in mind: fast, light, elusive, and hard-hitting at night. Plus the implications in the name (Shadow).<br> Or, with dark magic in mind, maybe de-illumination? (Of course with a better name).</div></blockquote> Maybe, but the Rogue Mage line is the only magical line, and that will cause them to be a lot less powerful due to balance.<br> De-illumination isn't the best choice, as these mages aren't evil, they're exiled mages, not necromancers.</div> <div id="sig460735" class="signature">Formerly known as the creator of <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=38109" class="postlink">Era of Chaos</a> and maintainer of <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=36901" class="postlink">The Aragwaithi</a> and the <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=10231" class="postlink">Era of Myths</a>.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p463579" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile463579"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=123769&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">shadowhawke</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=123769&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">6</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2010, 4:31 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content463579"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=463579&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p463579">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=463579&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=463579&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p463579" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=123769&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">shadowhawke</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2010-10-31T18:13:11+00:00">October 31st, 2010, 6:13 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I was playing Liberty recently on 1.8 and I noticed that Harper doesn't have a silver crown to show he's a hero. This made me lose a couple times as I didn't realise it was him. Argh.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p528215" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile528215"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=111201&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=111201_1243239358.jpg" width="74" height="74" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=111201&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">SkyOne</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=111201&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">1310</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 3rd, 2009, 7:23 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content528215"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=528215&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p528215">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=528215&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=528215&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p528215" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=111201&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" class="username">SkyOne</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2012-05-10T06:51:31+00:00">May 10th, 2012, 6:51 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Hi,<br> I am testing new Rogue and Shadow Mage and Shadow Lord on one of own UMC in order to update them from ones on 1.8 version (animated ones) by using BfW 1.10.2. It seems that the halo for <em class="text-italics">ice blast</em> of Rogue Mage doesn’t show consistently even attacking an enemy in the same direction. Is that possible to happen on them with the current code? I have added a sprite for the attack, but I don’t think it causes to the issue. Also, I have tested another set of halo, but the result is the same.<br> <br> Maybe, adding projectiles is better on him in the [missile_frame] tag?<br> <br> <br> EDIT:<br> <img class="smilies" src="./../images/smilies/icon_augh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":augh:" title="Augh"> Oops, it seems that the issue caused to my bad...<br> The attack name has been replaced from <em class="text-italics">magic missile</em> to <em class="text-italics">ice blast</em>. Modifying frames is usually reset from the old ones even using save files, but changing the attack name is a different story.<br> <br> Sorry, zookeeper. <br> I attach a couple each of the frames (defend and magic). Not too different from the base frame (*), but feel free to install them, and feel free <strong class="text-strong">not</strong> to use them. I will use them anyway.<br> I think that the magic one will be usable for the leading animation, also.<br> <br> What in Shadow Lord’s hand is the astral blade, right? I guessed it was not a staff. <br> <br> (*) - defend: from the base frame, 2 pixels to left, edit legs, moved a few pixels the sword and the hand, redraw colors <br> - magic: from the base frame, 1 pixel up except legs, edit legs, moved a few pixels the sword and the hand, redraw colors <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./../download/file.php?id=56938&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">liberty-mages.zip</a></dt> <dd>(18.17 KiB) Downloaded 1010 times</dd> </dl> </div> EDIT: on Sep. 6th<br> Just in a case, these are updated ones, including melee images. Some magenta parts were not really right on the previous images... Right on these... <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./../download/file.php?id=58444&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">mages-updated.zip</a></dt> <dd>(46.57 KiB) Downloaded 1301 times</dd> </dl> </div> <br> Thanks</div> <div id="sig528215" class="signature"><a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=26327" class="postlink">Fate of a Princess</a>/<a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&amp;p=430196#p430196" class="postlink">feedback thread</a>: "<em class="text-italics">What is in own heart that is the most important, not who you are.</em>" <br> Drake Campaign: <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=27043" class="postlink">Brave Wings</a>/<a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&amp;p=426386#p426386" class="postlink">feedback thread</a>, Naga Campaign: <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=524273#p524273" class="postlink">Return of the Monster</a>, Saurian Campaign: <a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;p=586585#p586585" class="postlink">Across the Ocean</a> <br> <a href="http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=574440#p574440" class="postlink">Northern Forces</a> - now on 1.12 server</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p586758" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile586758"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=124329&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Konrad2</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Forum Moderator</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=124329&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7">3374</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> November 24th, 2010, 6:30 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content586758"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=586758&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p586758">Re: Liberty</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=586758&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=586758&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7#p586758" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=124329&amp;sid=b0fe22abdcad403ab082d79877a543f7" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Konrad2</a></strong> &raquo; 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</span><time datetime="2018-03-17T23:17:18+00:00">March 17th, 2018, 11:17 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">As I'm playing Liberty in 1.13.11 and because 2 and a half years have passed without this 'bug' being fixed... I'm not editing my old post but rather making a new one. As I wasn't the first to point this out (I found a review from 2014 pointing out the exact same issue), the enemy leader does never recruit. Because he lacks a recruit list. While there is that event about him stopping passive, that event only makes him say one sentence.<br> If it is intended for him to be unable to recruit, I'd suggest giving him 0 gold (instead of letting him have 100) and/or make it clear in the code that it's intended behavior by doing this: 'canrecruit=no'.<br> <br> EDIT: Apparently the no recruiting thing was pointed out in this thread by turuk in 2007. 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