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And what makes "young people" different ? What is the definition of "young" ; all ages between children and 25 year ? --[[User:Foroa|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 05:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC) ::Now I see that whole [[:Category:Young people]] exists and is well populated. ::So creating the usual subcategories is OK, and we should discuss it at a higher category level. ::[[:Category:Girls]] is placed in [[:Category:Children]], but contains many young women. ::--[[User:Ikar.us|Ikar.us]] ([[User talk:Ikar.us|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC) :"Young people in Russia" might be better than "Young people of Russia" because the location of the photograph is easier to know than the actual nationality of the depicted people. (American tourists in front of a Russian tourist spot in Moscow can be "young people in Russia", even if the photographer didn't ask them to show their passport). [[User:Teofilo|Teofilo]] ([[User talk:Teofilo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC) :We already have [[:Category:Young women by country]] and I think a similar "by country" subcategorization would be a convenient way to diffuse overcrowded [[:Category:Young men]] too. The "young people" categories should be used as :1) supercategories for "young men" and "youg women" subcategories :2) a categorization of pictures showing groups of young men and young women together. : [[User:Teofilo|Teofilo]] ([[User talk:Teofilo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC) ::Before I had read the remarks to this category, I had tried to sort the [[:Category:People by age]] (also the associated Files). There had been many double relations in the files and especially in the categories. I mean, the [[:Category:Young people by Russia]] should remain, but in assimilation to the categories of other countries and age classes it should be called [[:Category:Young people in Russia]]. --[[User:R. Engelhardt|R. Engelhardt]] ([[User talk:R. 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