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data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs-September_30-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs-September_30-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs" title="Category:Obwalden geography stubs">Category:Obwalden geography stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs-September_30-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/30&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:Obwalden geography stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>upmerge to <a href="/wiki/Category:Switzerland_geography_stubs" title="Category:Switzerland geography stubs">Category:Switzerland geography stubs</a>. The Lucerne one will need a separate sfd nomination.</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> Only 4 articles. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&amp;wikifam=.wikipedia.org&amp;basecat=Obwalden&amp;basedeep=3&amp;mode=cs&amp;tagcat=Switzerland+geography+stubs+&amp;tagdeep=3&amp;go=Scan&amp;format=html&amp;userlang=en">Scan</a> can find 18 - not enough for a stub category. <b>Upmerge</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z-Category:Obwalden_geography_stubs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"></span>Upmerge, might have a look at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Canton_of_Lucerne_geography_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Canton of Lucerne geography stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Canton of Lucerne geography stubs</a> as well which appears to only have 12 articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-10-06T21:47:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-30T13:58:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_27" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_27-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_27-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"></span>September 27<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_27-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/27&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 27"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}-September_27-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"><span id="Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs.2F.7B.7BMB-manufac-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}-September_27-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Mountain bike manufacturer stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Mountain bike manufacturer stubs</a>/<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:MB-manufac-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:MB-manufac-stub (page does not exist)">MB-manufac-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}-September_27-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/27&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:Mountain bike manufacturer stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-10-05T08:01:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>Delete</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-10-05T08:01:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><b> </b><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-10-05T08:01:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-05T08:01:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-10-05T08:01:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs\/{{MB-manufac-stub}}","replies":[],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-10-05T08:01:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}"></span> <br/> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}"></span> Replaced by <a href="/wiki/Category:Cycle_manufacturer_stubs" title="Category:Cycle manufacturer stubs">Category:Cycle manufacturer stubs</a>/<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cycle-manufacturer-stub" title="Template:Cycle-manufacturer-stub">cycle-manufacturer-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - replacement and re-organization according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Discoveries/Log/2009/July" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Log/2009/July">discussion</a>. Stub template and category has no longer any articles. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kslotte" title="User:Kslotte">Kslotte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kslotte" title="User talk:Kslotte">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z-Category:Mountain_bike_manufacturer_stubs/{{MB-manufac-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:13:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:13:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-27T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:13:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:13:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EdgeNavidad-2009-09-29T08:36:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b> was already discussed. --<a href="/wiki/User:EdgeNavidad" title="User:EdgeNavidad">EdgeNavidad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EdgeNavidad" title="User talk:EdgeNavidad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-EdgeNavidad-2009-09-29T08:36:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EdgeNavidad-2009-09-29T08:36:00.000Z-Kslotte-2009-09-27T11:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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30 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:12:00.000Z-EdgeNavidad-2009-09-29T08:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-30T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:12:00.000Z-EdgeNavidad-2009-09-29T08:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:12:00.000Z-EdgeNavidad-2009-09-29T08:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}-September_27-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BAustralia-botanical-garden-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}-September_27-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Australia-botanical-garden-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Australia-botanical-garden-stub (page does not exist)">Australia-botanical-garden-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}-September_27-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/27&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-3" title="Edit section: {{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>rename to Australia-garden-stub, delete redirect</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> A peculiar case, this one. Rosiestep correctly proposes <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Botanical-garden-stub" title="Template:Botanical-garden-stub">Botanical-garden-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Arboretum-stub" title="Template:Arboretum-stub">Arboretum-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, then creates both and this national variety less than a day into the discussion of them (there are both support and oppose comments at the discussion on the generic types, and other alternatives have been suggested). Given that (a) there's no decision yet on the generic types; (b) no discussion at all on by-nation types; (c) a good possibility that if they are approved they will be with different names; (d) no indication that by-nation types are even needed for such a generic stub type; and (e) no clear indication of whether both botanical gardens and botanic gardens should be covered by this (they are not always identical), <s>I feel that this should be <b>deleted</b>.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}","replies":["c-Hesperian-2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z","c-Grutness-2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z-{{Australia-botanical-garden-stub}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hesperian-2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b>; not enough of them. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hesperian" title="User talk:Hesperian">Hesperian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Hesperian-2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hesperian-2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z","author":"Hesperian","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hesperian-2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hesperian-2009-09-29T06:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"></span>After discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WSS/P" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WSS/P">WP:WSS/P</a>, I'm changing this nomination to <b>rename</b> to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Australia-garden-stub" title="Template:Australia-garden-stub">Australia-garden-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, but without keeping the current name as a redirect. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-10-07T00:19:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-27T22:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_24" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_24-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_24-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span>September 24<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_24-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/24&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 24"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Anxiolytic_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs-September_24-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs-September_24-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Anxiolytic_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Anxiolytic stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Anxiolytic stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs-September_24-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/24&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:Anxiolytic stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:08:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was Upmerge to <a href="/wiki/Category:Psychoactive_drug_stubs" title="Category:Psychoactive drug stubs">Category:Psychoactive drug stubs</a>. -<a href="/wiki/User:Mairi" title="User:Mairi">Mairi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mairi" title="User talk:Mairi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:08:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:08:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-11T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Mairi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:08:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:08:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs"></span><br/> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs"></span> Underpopulated (only 28 pages). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&amp;wikifam=.wikipedia.org&amp;basecat=Anxiolytics&amp;basedeep=3&amp;mode=cs&amp;tagcat=Psychoactive+drug+stubs&amp;tagdeep=3&amp;go=%D7%A1%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7&amp;format=html&amp;userlang=en">Scan</a> shows only a few more. <b>Upmerge</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z","c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z-Category:Anxiolytic_stubs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span>Upmege until someone creates another 30 or so. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-30T13:10:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span>Upmerge</b> Scope is too limited. <a href="/wiki/User:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User:A Stop at Willoughby">A Stop at Willoughby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User talk:A Stop at Willoughby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z","author":"A Stop at Willoughby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:09:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T08:22:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_22" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_22-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_22-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span>September 22<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_22-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 22"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs-September_22-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs-September_22-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Jewish theologian stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Jewish theologian stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs-September_22-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:Jewish theologian stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:01:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b> </b> <br/> </p> <pre><b>delete</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizardman" title="User:Wizardman"><span style="color:#060"><i><b>Wizardman</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:01:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:01:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-30T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Wizardman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:01:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:01:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs"></span> </pre> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs"></span>An intersection of <a href="/wiki/Category:Judaism_stubs" title="Category:Judaism stubs">Category:Judaism stubs</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Theologian_stubs" title="Category:Theologian stubs">Category:Theologian stubs</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&amp;wikifam=.wikipedia.org&amp;basecat=Judaism+stubs&amp;basedeep=3&amp;mode=cs&amp;tagcat=Theologian+stubs&amp;tagdeep=3&amp;go=Scan&amp;format=html&amp;userlang=en">This intersection appears to only contain 4 articles</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z","c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z-Category:Jewish_theologian_stubs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b> - and delete the template as well. Not only is it poorly named, but it is highly misleading if it is intended to be an intersection of Judaism stubs and theologian stubs - the template states that it is for Jewish theologians - i.e., for theologians whose religious persuasion is Jewish, irrespective of whether their specialist area of research is Judaism or not. The category states that it is for articles related to <a href="/wiki/Jewish_theology" class="mw-redirect" title="Jewish theology">jewish theology</a> (a redirect to <a href="/wiki/Jewish_philosophy" title="Jewish philosophy">Jewish philosophy</a>). Given that it is more than likely that some Jewish theologians - template definition - are concerned with other religious studies rather than Jewish theology - category definition - in the same way, for example, as there are Christians who are experts on Buddhism, the whole nature of the purpose for this stub type is pretty unclear. In any case, the topic is pretty thoroughly covered by <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Judaism-bio-stub" title="Template:Judaism-bio-stub">Judaism-bio-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - a stub type which seems, BTW, to be being fairly thoroughly misused to apply to any Jewish biography, whether the person whose article is marked with this template is notable for their religious work or not (why, for instance, are <a href="/wiki/Sigmund_Livingston" title="Sigmund Livingston">Sigmund Livingston</a>, <a href="/wiki/Henri_Bernstein" title="Henri Bernstein">Henri Bernstein</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wilhelm_Salomon_Freund" title="Wilhelm Salomon Freund">Wilhelm Salomon Freund</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Jeff_Ballabon" title="Jeff Ballabon">Jeff Ballabon</a> marked with that stub? The various reli-bio-stub types - including this one -are for people whose main claim to fame is their religious work, not for people who simply happen to be of one particular faith) <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:11:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b> A category of stubs about theologians specializing in Judaism is one thing. But theologians who just so happen to be Jewish is another entirely. <a href="/wiki/User:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User:A Stop at Willoughby">A Stop at Willoughby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User talk:A Stop at Willoughby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z","author":"A Stop at Willoughby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:12:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-22T08:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs-September_22-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs-September_22-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Chinese biologist stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Chinese biologist stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs-September_22-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-3" title="Edit section: Category:Chinese biologist stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b> </b> <br/> </p><p><b>double upmerge</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizardman" title="User:Wizardman"><span style="color:#060"><i><b>Wizardman</b></i></span></a> 20:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC) An intersection of <a href="/wiki/Category:Biologist_stubs" title="Category:Biologist stubs">Category:Biologist stubs</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Chinese_scientist_stubs" title="Category:Chinese scientist stubs">Category:Chinese scientist stubs</a>, which doesn't seem to have that many stubs. <b>Double upmerge</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z","author":"Wizardman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z","c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z-Category:Chinese_biologist_stubs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"></span>Double upmerge per nom</b> unless this can be brought up to 60 stubs. Cat Scan suggests that there are only eight likely candidates at the moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-22T11:17:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"></span>Double upmerge</b> per Grutness. <a href="/wiki/User:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User:A Stop at Willoughby">A Stop at Willoughby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User talk:A Stop at Willoughby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z","author":"A Stop at Willoughby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:14:00.000Z-Wizardman-2009-11-30T20:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_21" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_21-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_21-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z"></span>September 21<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_21-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/21&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 21"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:EP_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:EP_stubs-September_21-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:EP_stubs-September_21-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z"></span>Category:EP stubs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:EP_stubs-September_21-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/21&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:EP stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Category:EP_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>withdrawn as nominator.</b> — <a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit"><span style="color:#8B008B;"><b>ξ</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Explicit" title="User talk:Explicit"><sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Category:EP_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Category:EP_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","author":"Explicit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Category:EP_stubs","replies":["c-Explicit-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","c-Grutness-2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03be"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Category:EP_stubs"></span><br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Explicit-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Propose renaming:</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:EP_stubs" title="Category:EP stubs">Category:EP stubs</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Extended_play_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Extended play stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Extended play stubs</a></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale: Rename</b>. Follow through with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_September_21#EPs_categories" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 September 21">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 September 21#EPs categories</a>, the category should be expanded to match, <a href="/wiki/Extended_play" title="Extended play">extended play</a>. Also to avoid ambiguity, as <a href="/wiki/EP" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="EP">EP</a> leads to a disambiguation page. — <a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit"><span style="color:#8B008B;"><b>ξ</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Explicit" title="User talk:Explicit"><sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Explicit-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Explicit-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Explicit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Explicit-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u03be"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Explicit-2009-09-21T21:59:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Support (with caveat)</b> - I support uniformity with whatever decision is reached at CFD. If the categories there are changed this shoudl be -if not, then this shouldn't either. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 21 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-21T23:06:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span>String support to match the CFD</b> - and I have made a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_discussions#Renaming_of_multiple_categories,_including_one_or_more_stub_categories" title="Wikipedia talk:Deletion discussions">proposal</a> to have these stub categories not need a separate process. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z","c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span>Oh dear - not again. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-25T00:35:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span>Note: The CFD discussion has been closed as "No consensus", so the categories weren't renamed. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-29T08:43:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Withdrawn</b>. Unfortunately, the CfD didn't go as expected, so I might as well withdraw this. — <a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit"><span style="color:#8B008B;"><b>ξ</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Explicit" title="User talk:Explicit"><sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","author":"Explicit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u03be"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z-Explicit-2009-10-01T03:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_15" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_15-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_15-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"></span>September 15<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_15-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/15&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 15"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country" data-mw-thread-id="h-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country-September_15-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country-September_15-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"></span>International cricket tour stubs by country<span data-mw-comment-end="h-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country-September_15-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/15&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: International cricket tour stubs by country"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>upmerge</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:International_cricket_tour_of_New_Zealand_stubs" title="Category:International cricket tour of New Zealand stubs">Category:International cricket tour of New Zealand stubs</a> (1 article)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:International_cricket_tour_of_India_stubs" title="Category:International cricket tour of India stubs">Category:International cricket tour of India stubs</a> (9 articles)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:International_cricket_tour_of_Pakistan_stubs" title="Category:International cricket tour of Pakistan stubs">Category:International cricket tour of Pakistan stubs</a> (1 article)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:International_cricket_tour_of_South_Africa_stubs" title="Category:International cricket tour of South Africa stubs">Category:International cricket tour of South Africa stubs</a> (5 articles)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:International_cricket_tour_of_Sri_Lanka_stubs" title="Category:International cricket tour of Sri Lanka stubs">Category:International cricket tour of Sri Lanka stubs</a> (4 articles)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:International_cricket_tour_of_West_Indies_stubs" title="Category:International cricket tour of West Indies stubs">Category:International cricket tour of West Indies stubs</a> (2 articles)</li></ul> <p><b>Upmerge</b> - all seem to be too small. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z-International_cricket_tour_stubs_by_country"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"></span>Looks like there's been some good work done by WP Cricket. When these were <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/Archive/May_2007#Split_of_Cat:International_cricket_tour_stubs" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/May 2007">proposed</a>, the parent had over 600 stubs. if these are re-upmerged, the parent will only have about 50 articles. So <b>reupmerge</b> seems a good option. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T15:58:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z"></span>BTW, none of these categories had a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Sfd-c&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Sfd-c (page does not exist)">sfd-c</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> notification template on it. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</a> (they do now)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}-September_15-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"><span id="Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs.2F.7B.7BRamanagara-geo-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}-September_15-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Ramanagara district geography stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Ramanagara district geography stubs</a>/<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ramanagara-geo-stub" title="Template:Ramanagara-geo-stub">Ramanagara-geo-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}-September_15-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/15&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-3" title="Edit section: Category:Ramanagara district geography stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>Upmerge until it gains sufficient stubs, per original creation proposal</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> Exists since December 2008, yet still empty. <b>Delete</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs\/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z-Category:Ramanagara_district_geography_stubs/{{Ramanagara-geo-stub}}"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"></span>Was proposed (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/Archive/December_2008#Split_of_Cat:Karnataka_geography_stubs_and_.7B.7BKarnataka-geo-stub.7D.7D" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/December 2008">here</a>), but with the proviso that the categories should only be made for those which reach 60 stubs. As such, <b>Upmerge</b> template, with no prejudice against re-creation of category later if needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-15T10:57:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z"></span>BTW, neither the category nor the template had a notification template on it. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</a> (they do now)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-16T00:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_10" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_10-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_10-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z"></span>September 10<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_10-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/10&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 10"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs-September_10-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"><span id="Category:Hindu_people_stubs_.E2.86.92_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs-September_10-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Hindu_people_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Hindu people stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Hindu people stubs</a> → <a href="/wiki/Category:Hindu_biography_stubs" title="Category:Hindu biography stubs">Category:Hindu biography stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs-September_10-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/10&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:Hindu people stubs → Category:Hindu biography stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-23T17:27:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>rename</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-23T17:27:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)</a><b> </b><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-23T17:27:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-23T17:27:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-23T17:27:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_\u2192_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs","replies":[],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-23T17:27:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"></span> <br/> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"></span> Rename, to match all other subcategories of <a href="/wiki/Category:Religious_biography_stubs" title="Category:Religious biography stubs">Category:Religious biography stubs</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_\u2192_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z","c-Mm40-2009-09-14T11:45:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z-Category:Hindu_people_stubs_→_Category:Hindu_biography_stubs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> for consistency. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mm40-2009-09-14T11:45:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"></span>Support renaming</b> for consistency with not only the other subcategories, but the main category. <a href="/wiki/User:Mm40" title="User:Mm40">Mm40</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mm40" title="User talk:Mm40">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Mm40-2009-09-14T11:45:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mm40-2009-09-14T11:45:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs-September_10-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BLivonia-stub.7D.7D.2F.7B.7BLivonia-geo-stub.7D.7D.2FCategory:Livonia_stubs"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs-September_10-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Livonia-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Livonia-stub (page does not exist)">Livonia-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>/<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Livonia-geo-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Livonia-geo-stub (page does not exist)">Livonia-geo-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>/<a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Livonia_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Livonia stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Livonia stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs-September_10-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/10&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-3" title="Edit section: {{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>Delete</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> Given the number of unsubcategorised <a href="/wiki/Category:Latvia_stubs" title="Category:Latvia stubs">Category:Latvia stubs</a>, splitting off regions seems a poor option. It could be seen as a good move with <a href="/wiki/Category:Latvia_geography_stubs" title="Category:Latvia geography stubs">Category:Latvia geography stubs</a>, since that is getting close to the golden number of 800 stubs, but if we were to split it, then Livonia would not be a prime candidate for a split. Latvia's administrative reguions are a bit difficult, since they've recently changed from <a href="/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Latvia" class="mw-redirect" title="List of regions of Latvia">five regions</a> divided into <a href="/wiki/Districts_of_Latvia" class="mw-redirect" title="Districts of Latvia">26 districts and 7 cities</a>, but this year they changed to <a href="/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Latvia_(2009)" class="mw-redirect" title="Administrative divisions of Latvia (2009)"><i>109</i> municipalities</a>. But even if we used the old <a href="/wiki/Historical_regions_of_Latvia" class="mw-redirect" title="Historical regions of Latvia">Historical regions of Latvia</a> (which are too vague to use easily) we wouldn't be considering Livonia as a major split. I suggest <b>deleting</b> these and considering a proposal to split the geo-stubs either into the five regions, 33 districts/cities, or 109 municipalities. Each of the nominated templates was only used on one article, BTW. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z-{{Livonia-stub}}\/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}\/Category:Livonia_stubs","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z-{{Livonia-stub}}/{{Livonia-geo-stub}}/Category:Livonia_stubs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"></span>delete</b> as too vague a region <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:54:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T12:03:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs-September_10-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs-September_10-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z"></span>Category:KwaZulu Natal geography stubs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs-September_10-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/10&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-4" title="Edit section: Category:KwaZulu Natal geography stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snigbrook-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>Rename</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><i>Moved from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CFD">WP:CFD</a></i></dd> <dd><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:KwaZulu Natal geography stubs (page does not exist)">Category:KwaZulu Natal geography stubs</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:KwaZulu-Natal_geography_stubs" title="Category:KwaZulu-Natal geography stubs">Category:KwaZulu-Natal geography stubs</a></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> <b>Rename</b>. Should be renamed for consistency with <a href="/wiki/KwaZulu-Natal" title="KwaZulu-Natal">KwaZulu-Natal</a> and other related articles and categories. <a href="/wiki/User:Snigbrook" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Snigbrook">snigbrook</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snigbrook" title="User talk:Snigbrook">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Snigbrook-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snigbrook-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z","author":"Snigbrook","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snigbrook-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snigbrook-2009-09-09T19:36:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs"></span>rename</b> per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z-Category:KwaZulu_Natal_geography_stubs"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Rename per article and perm category. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z"></span></b><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-12T14:51:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-10T22:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_8" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_8-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_8-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z"></span>September 8<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_8-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/8&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{UCF-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{UCF-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BUCF-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{UCF-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:UCF-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:UCF-stub (page does not exist)">UCF-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{UCF-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/8&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: {{UCF-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z-{{UCF-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>delete</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <ul><li>Unused. <a href="/wiki/User:Borgarde" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Borgarde">Borgarde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgarde" title="User talk:Borgarde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z-{{UCF-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z-{{UCF-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z","author":"Borgarde","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z-{{UCF-stub}}","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z-{{UCF-stub}}"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"></span>Delete as unused. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:07:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z"></span>And as badly named. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-08T23:33:00.000Z-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{Pipidae-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Pipidae-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BPipidae-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Pipidae-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Pipidae-stub" title="Template:Pipidae-stub">Pipidae-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Pipidae-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/8&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-3" title="Edit section: {{Pipidae-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>upmerge</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <ul><li>Used on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&amp;target=Template%3APipidae-stub&amp;namespace=0">1</a> article. Category definitely not needed. If kept should be upmerged somewhere. <a href="/wiki/User:Borgarde" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Borgarde">Borgarde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgarde" title="User talk:Borgarde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z","author":"Borgarde","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:06:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:26:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}"></span>may turn out to be useful, upmerge to <a href="/wiki/Category:Amphibian_stubs" title="Category:Amphibian stubs">Category:Amphibian stubs</a> to see if it grows any. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:26:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:26:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T12:26:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:26:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:26:00.000Z-{{Pipidae-stub}}"></span></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{Dravidian-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Dravidian-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BDravidian-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Dravidian-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Dravidian-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Dravidian-stub (page does not exist)">Dravidian-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Dravidian-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/8&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-4" title="Edit section: {{Dravidian-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z-{{Dravidian-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>delete</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <ul><li>Unused. Don't know if this is useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Borgarde" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Borgarde">Borgarde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgarde" title="User talk:Borgarde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z-{{Dravidian-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:04, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z-{{Dravidian-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z","author":"Borgarde","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z-{{Dravidian-stub}}","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z-{{Dravidian-stub}}"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"></span>Delete as unused and possibly confusing. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:27:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:04:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BD.26DVG_stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:D%26DVG_stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:D&amp;DVG stub (page does not exist)">D&amp;DVG stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/8&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-5" title="Edit section: {{D&amp;DVG stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>Rename and upmerge, for now at least - current name not kept as a redirect</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <ul><li>Incorrectly named, used on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&amp;target=Template%3AD%26DVG+stub&amp;namespace=0">3</a> stubs I think. If kept should be renamed to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:D%26D-videogame-stub" title="Template:D&amp;D-videogame-stub">D&amp;D-videogame-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> per other templates and kept upmerged. <a href="/wiki/User:Borgarde" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Borgarde">Borgarde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgarde" title="User talk:Borgarde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z","author":"Borgarde","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T04:01:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:28:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span>Delete as incorrectly named, had it been at the name suggested I would have said upmerge, but I don't think it is worth creating. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:28:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:28:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T12:28:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:28:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:28:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drilnoth-2009-09-29T21:05:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span>Rename and keep</b>. I think that there are enough articles that could have this template (a lot of the pages in <a href="/wiki/Category:Dungeons_%26_Dragons_video_games" title="Category:Dungeons &amp; Dragons video games">Category:Dungeons &amp; Dragons video games</a> and its subcats are stubs), that having this template is better than both the VG and D&amp;D stub templates on the same article. However, there would be only, say, thirty articles to which it would apply, and I'm not sure about the stub guidelines on this matter. –<a href="/wiki/User:Drilnoth" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Drilnoth">Drilnoth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drilnoth" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Drilnoth">T</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drilnoth" title="Special:Contributions/Drilnoth">C</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Drilnoth" title="Special:Log/Drilnoth">L</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Drilnoth-2009-09-29T21:05:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drilnoth-2009-09-29T21:05:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-29T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Drilnoth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drilnoth-2009-09-29T21:05:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drilnoth-2009-09-29T21:05:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span>Delete</b>—<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals">Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals</a> says 60 articles, or 30 if it's primary stub type of a WikiProject. I don't believe we have a project specifically for <i>D&amp;D</i> video games. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Pagrashtak" title="User:Pagrashtak"><span style="color:#8855DD;">Pagra</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pagrashtak" title="User talk:Pagrashtak"><span style="color:#6666AA;">shtak</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z","author":"Pagrashtak","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}","replies":["c-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pagra"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z-{{D&amp;DVG_stub}}"></span> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:D%26DTF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:D&amp;DTF"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z"></span>WP:D&amp;DTF</a>? –<a href="/wiki/User:Drilnoth" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Drilnoth">Drilnoth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drilnoth" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Drilnoth">T</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drilnoth" title="Special:Contributions/Drilnoth">C</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Drilnoth" title="Special:Log/Drilnoth">L</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z","author":"Drilnoth","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z-Pagrashtak-2009-10-17T01:13:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z"></span>That's a task force, not a WikiProject. Although, I don't spend a lot of time around the stub proposal area, so I don't know how that's interpreted. Consider my vote a rename if that's how stubs usually go. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Pagrashtak" title="User:Pagrashtak"><span style="color:#8855DD;">Pagra</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pagrashtak" title="User talk:Pagrashtak"><span style="color:#6666AA;">shtak</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z","author":"Pagrashtak","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pagra"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pagrashtak-2009-10-21T01:06:00.000Z-Drilnoth-2009-10-17T02:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BParliamentary-procedure-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Parliamentary-procedure-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Parliamentary-procedure-stub (page does not exist)">Parliamentary-procedure-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}-September_8-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/8&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-6" title="Edit section: {{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>delete</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <ul><li>This template was proposed in March with a recommendation not to create, it is not used on any articles. Should be deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:Borgarde" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Borgarde">Borgarde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgarde" title="User talk:Borgarde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z","author":"Borgarde","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borgarde-2009-09-08T03:55:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:29:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"></span>Delete as unused. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:29:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:29:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T12:29:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:29:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:29:00.000Z-{{Parliamentary-procedure-stub}}"></span></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_7-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_7-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"></span>September 7<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_7-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/7&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 7"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs-September_7-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs-September_7-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Paraguayan writer stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Paraguayan writer stubs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs-September_7-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/7&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: Category:Paraguayan writer stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>delete</b> <br/> </p><p><br/> A category for 5 articles? I think the template should be upmerged to <a href="/wiki/Category:Paraguayan_people_stubs" title="Category:Paraguayan people stubs">Category:Paraguayan people stubs</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Writer_stubs" title="Category:Writer stubs">Category:Writer stubs</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Borgarde" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Borgarde">Borgarde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgarde" title="User talk:Borgarde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z","author":"Borgarde","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z-Category:Paraguayan_writer_stubs"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Upmerge</b>. Indeed it should - even more so since this has only <i>four</i> articles (you counted the template!). Looks like it was created without proposal two years ago by <a href="/wiki/User:Jbmurray" title="User:Jbmurray">User:Jbmurray</a>, and hasn't gained any more stubs in all that time. Of course, if another 56 can be found, it would be worth keeping, but judging from the size of the two stub parent categories and the history of the category so far, that doesn't seem likely. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z-Borgarde-2009-09-07T10:38:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Find another 56, I don't think theres that many in the parent and its permanent sub cats, defeinite upmerge. <a href="/wiki/User:Waacstats" title="User:Waacstats">Waacstats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waacstats" title="User talk:Waacstats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z","author":"Waacstats","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Waacstats-2009-09-08T12:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-07T10:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="September_1" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_1-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_1-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z"></span>September 1<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_1-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/1&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-1" title="Edit section: September 1"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}-September_1-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BPL-stub.7D.7D_.2F_.7B.7BProg-lang-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}-September_1-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PL-stub" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:PL-stub">PL-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> / <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Prog-lang-stub" title="Template:Prog-lang-stub">Prog-lang-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}-September_1-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/1&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-2" title="Edit section: {{PL-stub}} / {{Prog-lang-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:26:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was Rename to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Prog-lang-stub" title="Template:Prog-lang-stub">Prog-lang-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, delete <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PL-stub" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:PL-stub">PL-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> --<a href="/wiki/User:Mairi" title="User:Mairi">Mairi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mairi" title="User talk:Mairi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:26:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:26:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-11T20:26:00.000Z","author":"Mairi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:26:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_\/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:26:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}"></span><br/> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}"></span> Unproposed stub which defies the naming conventions for stub templates. PL could stand for <a href="/wiki/PL" class="mw-disambig" title="PL">any of dozens of things</a>, of which Poland would seem the most likely by some distance. It is, however, for computer programming language. The template certainly seems useful enough, and its associated category (which also needs renaming from the plural to the singular as <a href="/wiki/Category:Programming_language_topic_stubs" title="Category:Programming language topic stubs">Category:Programming language topic stubs</a>) is full enough. <b>Rename</b>, but do not keep the current name as a redirect. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_\/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}","replies":["c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","c-Cybercobra-2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z-{{PL-stub}}_/_{{Prog-lang-stub}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span>I've renamed it to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Prog-lang-stub" title="Template:Prog-lang-stub">Prog-lang-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, which is probably sufficiently explicit give how the other stubs in <a href="/wiki/Category:Computer_science_stub_templates" title="Category:Computer science stub templates">Category:Computer science stub templates</a> are named. You'll probably need to use a script to fix all uses if you delete the redirect though. No objection to renaming the category. <a href="/wiki/User:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Pohta ce-am pohtit">Pcap</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit"><small>ping</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z","author":"Pohta ce-am pohtit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grutness-2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pcap"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z"></span>I wish you'd read the note at the top of the page which says "DO NOT rename any stub type that has been nominated here while discussion is still in progress. Any necessary renaming will be done when the discussion is closed." Prog-lang-stub is an equally bad name, since this is a computing-based stub - not a linguistics one, and lang-stub types are all for linguistics stubs (also, prog could be progressive, computer program, television programme, or any of several other things). I've added the new name to the nomination - it should also be deleted and renamed <i>once a rename to a more appropriate name has been discussed, and not before</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-02T03:37:00.000Z-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T23:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span>Rename</b> to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Proglang-stub&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Proglang-stub (page does not exist)">proglang-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, and delete redirects. I believe that the claim that "prog" has other meanings is irrelevant, since none of them have anything called "language". However, "lang-stub" isn't a natural component, since a programming language isn't really a language. <a href="/wiki/User:Od_Mishehu" title="User:Od Mishehu">עוד מישהו</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">Od Mishehu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z","author":"Od Mishehu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3\u00a0\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z"></span>Linguists consider programming languages languages, e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://books.google.com/books?q=%22it+is+a+language%2C+yes%22&amp;btnG=Search+Books">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Pohta ce-am pohtit">Pcap</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit"><small>ping</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 2 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z","author":"Pohta ce-am pohtit","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pcap"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T09:19:00.000Z-Od_Mishehu-2009-09-02T07:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cybercobra-2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span>Rename</b> to "prog-lang-stub". This name is quite natural to use and I don't find any of the names it could supposedly be confused for to be at all plausible. --<a href="/wiki/User:Cybercobra" title="User:Cybercobra"><b style="color:#3773A5;">Cyber</b><span style="color:#FFB521;">cobra</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cybercobra" title="User talk:Cybercobra">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Cybercobra-2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cybercobra-2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z","author":"Cybercobra","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cybercobra-2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cybercobra-2009-09-03T12:50:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span>Rename</b> per Od Mishehu and Cybercobra. Sorry, Grutness, but I don't think those other uses of "prog" could be used plausibly with "lang" or "language." <a href="/wiki/User:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User:A Stop at Willoughby">A Stop at Willoughby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User talk:A Stop at Willoughby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z","author":"A Stop at Willoughby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:18:00.000Z-Grutness-2009-09-01T23:47:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Computer_language_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Computer_language_stubs-September_1-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Computer_language_stubs-September_1-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z"></span>Category:Computer language stubs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Computer_language_stubs-September_1-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September/1&amp;action=edit&amp;section=T-3" title="Edit section: Category:Computer language stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background: #ebfefa; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Category:Computer_language_stubs"></span>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was Merge to <a href="/wiki/Category:Programming_language_topic_stubs" title="Category:Programming language topic stubs">Category:Programming language topic stubs</a>. -<a href="/wiki/User:Mairi" title="User:Mairi">Mairi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mairi" title="User talk:Mairi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Category:Computer_language_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Category:Computer_language_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Mairi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Category:Computer_language_stubs","replies":["c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","c-Cybercobra-2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","c-Miym-2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","c-Ruud_Koot-2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","c-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","c-Grutness-2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Category:Computer_language_stubs"></span><br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>The following - up to the dividing line - is from the listing at WP:CFD.</i></dd> <dd><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Computer_language_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Computer language stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Computer language stubs</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Computer_language_stubs&amp;action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Computer_language_stubs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Computer language stubs (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Computer_language_stubs&amp;action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Computer_language_stubs">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Computer_language_stubs&amp;action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;page=%3ACategory%3AComputer+language+stubs">logs</a>)</span></span><br/></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Since we don't have an article on "<a href="/wiki/Computer_language" title="Computer language">computer language</a>" for almost a year now, I propose this category be deleted. The only reason I'm doing this busy work rater than redirecting <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Compu-lang-stub" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Compu-lang-stub">compu-lang-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PL-stub" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:PL-stub">PL-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is that an administrator <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Od_Mishehu#Any_reason_for_this.3F" title="User talk:Od Mishehu">thinks it is necessary</a> and undid my redirect although he has no comment on content of my action, only the form thereof. <a href="/wiki/User:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Pohta ce-am pohtit">Pcap</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit"><small>ping</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z","author":"Pohta ce-am pohtit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pcap"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-01T10:49:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cybercobra-2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b> the category and <b>Redirect</b> the stub. "Computer language" = "Programming language", the two are synonyms, having parallel stub templates and categories is duplicative and unnecessary. --<a href="/wiki/User:Cybercobra" title="User:Cybercobra"><b style="color:#3773A5;">Cyber</b><span style="color:#FFB521;">cobra</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cybercobra" title="User talk:Cybercobra">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Cybercobra-2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cybercobra-2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z","author":"Cybercobra","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cybercobra-2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cybercobra-2009-09-01T11:13:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miym-2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b>. Looks like uncontroversial maintenance to me. — <a href="/wiki/User:Miym" title="User:Miym">Miym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Miym" title="User talk:Miym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Miym-2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miym-2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z","author":"Miym","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Miym-2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miym-2009-09-01T11:20:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruud_Koot-2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> I think the stub and category where originally named "computer language" so they could include languages which where not specifically designed for use as programming languages (e.g. PostScript, XML and friends). It might still be useful to use a somewhat more generic name for this reason, but may also be over-generification, as I suspect a vast majority of these stubs are indeed only related to programming concepts. —<i><a href="/wiki/User:Ruud_Koot" title="User:Ruud Koot">Ruud</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Ruud_Koot-2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruud_Koot-2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z","author":"Ruud Koot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ruud_Koot-2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ruud"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruud_Koot-2009-09-01T11:45:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Close</b> - and relist at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SFD">WP:SFD</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Otto4711" title="User:Otto4711">Otto4711</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otto4711" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Otto4711">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z","author":"Otto4711","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z"></span>Apparently Twinkle cannot automatically file the stub category deletion discussion in the right place. Someone care to move this discussion over there? <a href="/wiki/User:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Pohta ce-am pohtit">Pcap</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pohta_ce-am_pohtit" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit"><small>ping</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z","author":"Pohta ce-am pohtit","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pcap"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pohta_ce-am_pohtit-2009-09-02T00:30:00.000Z-Otto4711-2009-09-01T12:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <hr/> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Merge</b> into the <a href="/wiki/Category:Programming_language_topic_stubs" title="Category:Programming language topic stubs">Category:Programming language topic stubs</a> listed immediately above. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-Grutness-2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2009-09-05T00:59:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Merge</b> per Grutness. "Computer language" and "programming language" are one and the same. <a href="/wiki/User:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User:A Stop at Willoughby">A Stop at Willoughby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Stop_at_Willoughby" title="User talk:A Stop at Willoughby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2009/September#c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z","author":"A Stop at Willoughby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Stop_at_Willoughby-2009-11-09T03:21:00.000Z-Mairi-2009-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). 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