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Do <b>not</b> use <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/dated" title="Template:Requested move/dated">requested move/dated</a>}}</code> directly.</i> </small><div class="floatright"><small style="line-height:1.2em;"><i>Links:</i> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/move&amp;page=Attitude+%28psychology%29">current log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/move&amp;page=Attitude">target log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MovePage&amp;wpOldTitle=Attitude+%28psychology%29&amp;wpNewTitle=Attitude&amp;wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARequested+moves%7Crequested+move%5D%5D%3B+see+%5B%5BTalk%3AAttitude%5D%5D&amp;wpMovetalk=1">direct move</a></small></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Attitude_(psychology)" title="Attitude (psychology)">Attitude (psychology)</a> → <a href="/wiki/Attitude" class="mw-disambig" title="Attitude">Attitude</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Attitude" class="mw-disambig" title="Attitude">Attitude</a> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attitude_(disambiguation)&amp;redirect=no">Attitude (disambiguation)</a></span></li></ul> <p>– This reads to me like the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC">primary topic</a> for "attitude". Not a subject-matter expert, but I don't think anyone who types "Attitude" in the search bar and arrives at this article would be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ASTONISH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ASTONISH">caught off-guard</a> by the contents. <a href="/wiki/User:DigitalIceAge" title="User:DigitalIceAge">DigitalIceAge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DigitalIceAge" title="User talk:DigitalIceAge">talk</a>) 03:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC) <small>— <i><b>Relisting.</b></i> <a href="/wiki/User:Raladic" title="User:Raladic">Raladic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Raladic" title="User talk:Raladic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900-Requested_move_23_November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900-Requested_move_23_November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123033900","author":"DigitalIceAge","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900-Requested_move_23_November_2024","replies":["c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Arnoutf-20241124173100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Necrothesp-20241129123100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Raladic-20241130184700-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Raladic-20241130185300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Tito_Omburo-20241130193300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Deeday-UK-20241130195000-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-David_Eppstein-20241130195200-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","c-Jacobolus-20241201050900-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900-Requested_move_23_November_2024"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Oppose</b>. There's no evidence of long-term significance, and for usage although the page is the most popular (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&amp;agent=user&amp;source=wikilinks&amp;range=all-time&amp;sort=views&amp;direction=1&amp;view=list&amp;target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attitude">[1]</a>) it isn't more popular than everything else put together. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123112500","author":"Shhhnotsoloud","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":["c-DigitalIceAge-20241124045900-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DigitalIceAge-20241124045900-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500"></span>That massviews analysis tool is extremely misleading and should be taken with a grain of salt. For (1) It includes entries that don't contain "Attitude" in the titles and which are only listed in the disambiguation page for reasons like non-notable songs in notable albums titled "Attitude" etc. (see <i>Reload</i>); (2) it contains redirects having "Attitude" in the title redirecting to popular pages (see <a href="/wiki/Attitude_Records" class="mw-redirect" title="Attitude Records">Attitude Records</a>, which nets about 1 pageview/day redirecting to Gary Glitter, which gets 2,354 pageviews/day); and (3) it contains <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLEPTM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLEPTM">TITLEPTM</a> partial matches and out-of-scope homonyms listed in the See also section like <a href="/wiki/Altitude" title="Altitude">Altitude</a>, <a href="/wiki/Attitude_Era" title="Attitude Era">Attitude Era</a>, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:DigitalIceAge" title="User:DigitalIceAge">DigitalIceAge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DigitalIceAge" title="User talk:DigitalIceAge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-DigitalIceAge-20241124045900-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DigitalIceAge-20241124045900-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124045900","author":"DigitalIceAge","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DigitalIceAge-20241124045900-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DigitalIceAge-20241124045900-Shhhnotsoloud-20241123112500"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Oppose</b> No obvious primary topic here. <a href="/wiki/User:Zxcvbnm" title="User:Zxcvbnm">ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zxcvbnm" title="User talk:Zxcvbnm">ᴛ</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124130100","author":"Zxcvbnm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":["c-DigitalIceAge-20241124172700-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100"],"displayName":"\u1d22x\u1d04\u1d20\u0299\u0274\u1d0d"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DigitalIceAge-20241124172700-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100"></span>"No obvious primary topic here" "no evidence of long-term significance" Huh? Isn't the behavioral sense of the word "attitude", which this article covers, far and away more common than any other sense? Again I'm not an expert but there's multiple books written soley about this specific subject, which are cited in the article. It looks like a major pillar to me. <a href="/wiki/User:DigitalIceAge" title="User:DigitalIceAge">DigitalIceAge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DigitalIceAge" title="User talk:DigitalIceAge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-DigitalIceAge-20241124172700-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DigitalIceAge-20241124172700-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124172700","author":"DigitalIceAge","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DigitalIceAge-20241124172700-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DigitalIceAge-20241124172700-Zxcvbnm-20241124130100"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arnoutf-20241124173100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Discuss</b> If this is not the primary topic what is? (keeping in mind that many other articles are derivates of the psychological construct, e.g.) and that attitude was coined in the 1920's by Thurstone (does that count as long term significance), is central to Ajzen's 1991 paper on the theory of planned behaviour (which belongs to the top 100 most cited papers across all sciences). If we strictly look at geometric positioning (not even counting for natural science bias at Wikipedia) it seems the psychological construct is really the primary use of the term. Other usages seem really really really minor. I have no strong opinion but I think there is some merit to moving this article up in searches. <a href="/wiki/User:Arnoutf" title="User:Arnoutf">Arnoutf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arnoutf" title="User talk:Arnoutf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Arnoutf-20241124173100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arnoutf-20241124173100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124173100","author":"Arnoutf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Arnoutf-20241124173100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arnoutf-20241124173100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Necrothesp-20241129123100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Support</b> per nom. Clear primary topic. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Necrothesp" title="User:Necrothesp">Necrothesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Necrothesp" title="User talk:Necrothesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Necrothesp-20241129123100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Necrothesp-20241129123100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241129123100","author":"Necrothesp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Necrothesp-20241129123100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Necrothesp-20241129123100-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raladic-20241130184700-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Relisting comment</b>: Relisting for more time for discussion. Note that there is a <a href="/wiki/Talk:Attitude#Requested_move" title="Talk:Attitude">previous RM in 2008 that found that there is no primary topic</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Raladic" title="User:Raladic">Raladic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Raladic" title="User talk:Raladic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Raladic-20241130184700-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raladic-20241130184700-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raladic-20241130184700-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130184700","author":"Raladic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Raladic-20241130184700-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span></dd> <dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raladic-20241130185300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Note: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Psychology" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology">WikiProject Psychology</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Engineering" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Engineering">WikiProject Engineering</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation">WikiProject Aviation</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spaceflight" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight">WikiProject Spaceflight</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics">WikiProject Mathematics</a> have been notified of this discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Raladic" title="User:Raladic">Raladic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Raladic" title="User talk:Raladic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Raladic-20241130185300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raladic-20241130185300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raladic-20241130185300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130185300","author":"Raladic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Raladic-20241130185300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tito_Omburo-20241130193300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Oppose</b> per previous RM. The adoption of "attitude" for psychology is actually just a figurative usage of an already established English word meaning position and bearing. So the primary meaning actually cuts the other way. <a href="/wiki/User:Tito_Omburo" title="User:Tito Omburo">Tito Omburo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tito_Omburo" title="User talk:Tito Omburo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Tito_Omburo-20241130193300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tito_Omburo-20241130193300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130193300","author":"Tito Omburo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tito_Omburo-20241130193300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tito_Omburo-20241130193300-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deeday-UK-20241130195000-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Oppose</b> – What Tito Omburo said. 'Attitude' is a common term whose primary meaning (see <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/attitude" class="extiw" title="wiktionary:attitude">Wiktionary entry</a>) is "<i>The position of the body or way of carrying oneself</i>", and from there it came to mean a number of other things in psychology, engineering, ballet and so on. It seems more logical to leave <a href="/wiki/Attitude" class="mw-disambig" title="Attitude">Attitude</a> itself as disambiguation page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Deeday-UK" title="User:Deeday-UK">Deeday-UK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deeday-UK" title="User talk:Deeday-UK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Deeday-UK-20241130195000-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deeday-UK-20241130195000-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130195000","author":"Deeday-UK","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deeday-UK-20241130195000-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deeday-UK-20241130195000-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20241130195200-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Oppose</b>. As a colloquial English word, none of its technical usages is primary. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-David_Eppstein-20241130195200-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20241130195200-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130195200","author":"David Eppstein","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-David_Eppstein-20241130195200-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20241130195200-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacobolus-20241201050900-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span>Oppose</b>. The meaning described in <a href="/wiki/Attitude_(psychology)" title="Attitude (psychology)">Attitude (psychology)</a> doesn't seem to precisely match the plain language meaning of the word even in the sense of a way of thinking or a behavior. We can leave it to Wiktionary to describe the common meanings of the English word (though <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/attitude" class="extiw" title="wikt:attitude">wikt:attitude</a> could really use more quotations), and point to the various jargon meanings at Wikipedia using a disambiguation list. –<a href="/wiki/User:Jacobolus" title="User:Jacobolus">jacobolus</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacobolus" title="User talk:Jacobolus">(t)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attitude_(psychology)#c-Jacobolus-20241201050900-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacobolus-20241201050900-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241201050900","author":"Jacobolus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jacobolus-20241201050900-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacobolus-20241201050900-DigitalIceAge-20241123033900"></span></li></ul> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐6b68c86545‐d7jjg Cached time: 20241202114206 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.016 seconds CPU time usage: 0.265 seconds Real time usage: 0.529 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1372/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 42274/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 4673/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 16/100 Expensive parser function count: 34/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 14692/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.128/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 3193655/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 444.984 1 -total 44.74% 199.107 1 Template:Talk_header 27.29% 121.445 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 20.46% 91.037 1 Template:Requested_move/dated 19.60% 87.216 1 Template:Ifsubst 17.79% 79.141 1 Template:WikiProject_Psychology 13.89% 61.815 1 Template:Tmbox 12.10% 53.852 1 Template:Pagetype 12.08% 53.753 1 Template:Yearly_archive_list 10.54% 46.881 1 Template:For_loop --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:695788:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241202114206 and revision id 1260512985. 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