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You can leave a comment or opinion on <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Bot_status#Global_bot_status_requests" class="extiw" title="m:Steward requests/Bot status">the relevant page</a>! </p><p>Best regards --<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Superpes15" class="extiw" title="m:User:Superpes15">Superpes15</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Superpes15" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Superpes15">talk</a>) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:ProcBot_purge_task" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:ProcBot_purge_task-20240821113900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:ProcBot_purge_task-20240821113900"></span>User:ProcBot purge task<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:ProcBot_purge_task-20240821113900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: User:ProcBot purge task"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-20240821113900-User:ProcBot_purge_task"></span>Hey, can you reactive the purge task? I've added a category to the one off list at <a href="/wiki/User:ProcBot/PurgeList" title="User:ProcBot/PurgeList">User:ProcBot/PurgeList</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Gonnym-20240821113900-User:ProcBot_purge_task" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20240821113900-User:ProcBot_purge_task"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20240821113900-User:ProcBot_purge_task"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700-Gonnym-20240821113900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> Forgot to reply here, but this should be done. (Let me know if you think it didn't work properly?) In future, it should automatically respond to one-time category purge requests on that page. <a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700-Gonnym-20240821113900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700-Gonnym-20240821113900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700-Gonnym-20240821113900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-20240902065500-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700"></span>Thanks, it finished. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Gonnym-20240902065500-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20240902065500-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20240902065500-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-20240924141800-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700"></span>Hey @<a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a>, can the bot can purge modules and can it purge deleted modules? <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Gonnym-20240924141800-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20240924141800-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20240924141800-ProcrastinatingReader-20240901135700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200-Gonnym-20240924141800"></span>Deleted ones I don't think would work.</dd> <dd>For non-deleted, let's see... I used to have old code which purged transclusions of templates. It's disabled (and I'd have written the code for it differently today), but I can re-enable it, and it might work mostly as-is for modules. <a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200-Gonnym-20240924141800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200-Gonnym-20240924141800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200-Gonnym-20240924141800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200"></span>I think it's not immediately going to work, so I've disabled template transclusion purges for now. I'll need to look into it a bit more, but not sure when I'll have time in the immediate future. <a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300-ProcrastinatingReader-20240925200200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-20240927142100-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300"></span>OK, thanks for letting me know. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Gonnym-20240927142100-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20240927142100-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20240927142100-ProcrastinatingReader-20240927141300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span>RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span>Hi there! The trial of the <strong>RfA discussion-only period</strong> passed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA2024">WP:RFA2024</a> has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Discussion-only_period" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period</a></b>. Cheers, and happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot-20241015093600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot-20241015093600"></span>Global bot approval request for Leaderbot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot-20241015093600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Global bot approval request for Leaderbot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EPIC-20241015093600-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot"></span>Hello! </p><p>I apologize for sending this message in English. Please help translate to other languages.. </p><p>In accordance to <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bot_policy#Global_bots" class="extiw" title="m:Bot policy">the policy</a>, this message is to notify you that there is a new approval request for a global bot. </p><p>The discussion is available at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Bot_status#Global_bot_status_for_Leaderbot" class="extiw" title="m:Steward requests/Bot status">Steward requests/Bot status#Global bot status for Leaderbot</a> on Meta. </p><p>Thank you for your time. </p><p>Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:EPIC" title="User:EPIC">EPIC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EPIC" title="User talk:EPIC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-EPIC-20241015093600-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EPIC-20241015093600-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EPIC-20241015093600-Global_bot_approval_request_for_Leaderbot"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFC_close_clarification_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFC_close_clarification_request-20241019200100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFC_close_clarification_request-20241019200100"></span>RFC close clarification request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFC_close_clarification_request-20241019200100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: RFC close clarification request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100-RFC_close_clarification_request"></span>Hello friend. I hope you're well. In your recent RFC close at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AELECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:AELECT">WT:AELECT</a>, you wrote <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">any voter guides will not be linked to from this page</q>. I'm wondering if you'd be willing to amend it to be clearer about what <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">this page</q> applies to? Does it apply to subpages? (I assume yes.) Does it apply to AELECT talk pages? (Completely unsure on this one, "this page" is technically the talk page.) Does it apply to any non AELECT pages? (I assume no.) Thanks for your consideration. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100-RFC_close_clarification_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100-RFC_close_clarification_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100-RFC_close_clarification_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100"></span>Better clarify subpages too. I assumed that voter guides can't be mentioned there, but <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Administrator_elections&curid=76398811&diff=1252116259&oldid=1252114622">another editor assumed they can</a>. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241019213100-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000"></span>I'd say disallowing a mention on any sub page falls under the discouraged category personally. "I saw on josh's non existent guide about xyz..." would then be disallowed. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241019213100-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241019213100-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241019213100-Novem_Linguae-20241019213000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100"></span>Hey, "this page" was supposed to mean <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections" title="Wikipedia:Administrator elections">Wikipedia:Administrator elections</a>. The close is not supposed to be a gag order, but it tries to toe the line between an effective prohibition (where voter guides are discentivised to the point where if anyone writes one in userspace, it may as well not exist), and the open way voter guides at ACE exist and are promoted/encouraged. I appreciate it's an awkward balance, and likely will be revisited after this election, but I think a balance should be workable for this election.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>With respect to the specific scenarions queried; for subpages of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AELECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AELECT">WP:AELECT</a> and talk pages: linking to voter guides in a signed comment by editors is not prohibited, and thus a user may link to them as naturally arises in the course of discussion, or in a question if they wish to cross-reference against something on another page (such as in <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a>'s example <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1252118356/1252119658">here</a>, which would be within the spirit of the close). But this shouldn't be used to take the mick, e.g. a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Mbox" title="Template:Mbox">mbox</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> at the top of every discussion page with a list of voter guides referencing the candidate, which would be tantamount to option 2. The close doesn't extend to non-AELECT pages, which are outside the scope of the process. Does this help? <a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800-Novem_Linguae-20241019200100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tryptofish-20241020003600-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800"></span>Thanks very much for that. As one of the involved editors, I find that quite helpful. As a follow-up, does the close permit anything on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections" title="Wikipedia:Administrator elections">Wikipedia:Administrator elections</a> saying that voter guides are not to be linked from there, or should any edits attempting to make such links just be reverted when and if they happen? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Tryptofish-20241020003600-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tryptofish-20241020003600-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tryptofish-20241020003600-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020002800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200-Tryptofish-20241020003600"></span>The latter - revert if links are added to that page <a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200-Tryptofish-20241020003600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200-Tryptofish-20241020003600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200-Tryptofish-20241020003600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tryptofish-20241020004500-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200"></span>Thanks. I'm going to link to this at the talk page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-Tryptofish-20241020004500-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tryptofish-20241020004500-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tryptofish-20241020004500-ProcrastinatingReader-20241020004200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices-20241024213900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices-20241024213900"></span>Question at TFD about the COVID-19 edit notices<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices-20241024213900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Question at TFD about the COVID-19 edit notices"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ToBeFree-20241024213900-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:ProcrastinatingReader" title="User:ProcrastinatingReader">ProcrastinatingReader</a>, please see <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#Template:Editnotices/Page/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Africa">[1]</a> for a question – you haven't edited for 4 days, so I was afraid you might not notice the ping. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#c-ToBeFree-20241024213900-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ToBeFree-20241024213900-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ToBeFree-20241024213900-Question_at_TFD_about_the_COVID-19_edit_notices"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProcrastinatingReader-20241029222000-ToBeFree-20241024213900"></span>Hey. I think you found<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-ToBeFree-20241024214800-ToBeFree-20241024213700">[2]</a> the answer to your particular question? 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