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Do you have any information about the meeting of the 49th Guards Rifle division with American allies? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span>(Talk page stalker): Thanks for your note, tovarishch. The information on the first contact in the vicinity of <a href="/wiki/Torgau" title="Torgau">Torgau</a> is at <a href="/wiki/Line_of_contact" class="mw-redirect" title="Line of contact">Line of contact</a> and <a href="/wiki/Elbe_Day" title="Elbe Day">Elbe Day</a>. However the contact appears to have been made by <a href="/wiki/58th_Guards_Rifle_Division" title="58th Guards Rifle Division">58th Guards Rifle Division</a>. Can you please supply date or other details of when the <a href="/wiki/49th_Guards_Rifle_Division" title="49th Guards Rifle Division">49th Guards Rifle Division</a> met U.S. forces? Kind regards <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 27 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z"></span>It appears that <a href="/wiki/9th_Armored_Division_(United_States)" title="9th Armored Division (United States)">9th Armored Division</a> was in the Linz area, and the <a href="/wiki/11th_Armored_Division_(United_States)" title="11th Armored Division (United States)">11th Armored Division</a> actually liberated the city<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.mauthausen-memorial.org/en/Gusen/The-Concentration-Camp-Gusen/Liberation-1/Regional-liberation-and-the-taking-of-Linz">[1]</a>. These units were part of the Patton's Third Army. I can't find any information on the meeting from the Soviet side, though there may be information in the documents on pamyat-naroda.ru. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 27 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-27T21:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a>:</span> - <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=130399095&backurl=division%5C49%20%D0%B3%D0%B2.%20%D1%81%D0%B4">[2]</a> Here is the combat diary of the 49th GRD for 1 January-30 June 1945. The information you want should be there. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 27 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T22:55:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the answer! But I would like to get acquainted with the English-speaking sources. In particular, I am interested in the awarding of American awards to soldiers of the 49th Guard RD. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T22:55:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 27 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T22:55:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T22:55:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-27T21:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T00:51:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a>:</span> Which Soviet soldiers are you specifically looking for information on? I've assumed that you are looking for the soldiers mentioned at the end of the ruwiki article:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Margelov - can't find any trace of him getting Bronze Star and Legion of Merit from American side in English sources</li> <li>Mirolevich - nothing on his Bronze Star</li> <li>Lubenchenko - same as above</li> <li>Kotlyarsky - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.omsa.org/files/jomsa_arch/Splits/2008/6947_JOMSA_Vol59_2_16.pdf">this article has information on his award</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T00:51:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 28 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T00:51:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T00:51:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! But I have a lot of questions. What about major Combarov Alexey Ivanovich (Комбаров Алексей Иванович) Bronze Star? Are there any lists of the awarded? If you can tell who signed the award document Kotlyarsky (name)? Competence award - the level of the division commander (regiment, brigade) or higher level? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 28 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Kges1901 do we need to get on to the records/issuing authority? Is that CMH? Do you know? If not I'm a little busy here IRL, but can assist over a longer period... <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 28 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-28T11:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z"></span>Георгий: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://valor.militarytimes.com">[3]</a> has citations for those awarded decorations, but it is not very complete. I wasn't able to find anything on Kombarov either. Kotlyarsky's citation, following the standard procedure of the time, was signed by the Secretary of War and the Adjutant General of the United States (though technically presented by the President). U.S. Awards are recommended by a superior usually (though that superior's name doesn't make it into the final citation that gets publicized) but the procedure for foreign recipients is/was different - it's likely that the presentation of awards to Soviet soldiers was in some way coordinated as a gesture of Allied friendship. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-1"></span>Buckshot: the issuing authority for the Bronze Star and Legion of Merit would be the Department of War, so whatever records there are on this would be DoD. Unfortunately, the army doesn't keep a list of award recipients nor does it keep the citations.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.homeofheroes.com/verify/">[4]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-28T21:24:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z"></span>Thankyou Kges1901. This is ridiculous that we cannot definitively help from the official records. OK, different track. What was the formation/unit that encountered 49 GRD, and thus which formation/unit submitted these award recommendations? If it's either 9 AD or 11 AD they would have histories, archival material, documents etc.. <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:28, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-28T22:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z"></span>I can't find the formation that actually encountered 49th GRD on the internet. I'm sure that the meeting with the Soviets would be recorded in a unit's operational summaries. I would suggest that combing through Third Army division records for early May 1945 would work best, then work down from there. Records are at NARA. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-29T02:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Was document signed by Edward Fuller Witsell and Robert P. Patterson? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-27T18:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z"></span>Yes, indeed. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T08:59:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T06:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"></span>According to the 49th GRD battle log at 3 pm on May 10, 1945 near the town of Grein (Upper Austria) a meeting was held with units of the 11th AD (United States). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T20:15:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z"></span>Then the 49th wasn't the first Soviet unit to make contact with the 11th Armored. On 8 May, according to American reports, troops of the 41st Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron met up with Soviet soldiers of the <a href="/wiki/7th_Guards_Airborne_Division" class="mw-redirect" title="7th Guards Airborne Division">7th Guards Airborne Division</a> (I'm pretty sure its this division because of the American use of the term "Parachute" in some accounts) near <a href="/wiki/Amstetten" class="mw-disambig" title="Amstetten">Amstetten</a>. This was the first Third Army contact with the Red Army, and the 11th Armored was at the end of the war the easternmost American unit. I was able to find <a href="/wiki/Grein,_Austria" title="Grein, Austria">Grein, Austria</a>, it is 50 km east of Linz and 15 km north of Amstetten, so it matches up. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T20:15:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T20:15:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-29T20:15:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-29T11:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"></span>Dear Kges1901! Yes! According document "Raid of the advanced detachment of 7th Guards Airborne Division to join forces with the US Army" ("Рейд передового отряда 7 гв. вдд на соединение с войсками американской армии") May 08, 1945. Have you read this document in Russian? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 31 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z-49th_Guards_Rifle_division_/_First_meeting_with_U.S._forces"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z"></span>No, I haven't. Can you provide a link? <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 31 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-08-31T16:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z"></span>Citation both please!! Kges1901 would you please mind sourcing (generally) your statement, and Georgi Palkin, a link would be great!! But great work on both sides so far, with citations, this can all be added to the appropriate articles!! <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-08-31T20:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-01T05:03:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z"></span>Link <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=235982917&backurl=q%5C7%20%D0%B3%D0%B2%20%D0%B2%D0%B4%D0%B4">[5]</a> (If, something is not clear in the text, I'll try to translate). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-01T05:03:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 1 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-01T05:03:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-01T05:03:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-01T09:25:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z"></span>My source is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=7B3X6aKMVooC&pg=PA214&dq=11th+armored+division+7th+guards+amstetten&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSrqqq1YPWAhVD5YMKHZ4QDfIQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=11th%20armored%20division%207th%20guards%20amstetten&f=false">Last Shots for Patton's Third Army</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-09-01T09:25:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 1 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-01T09:25:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-09-01T09:25:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-08-31T22:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest" data-mw-thread-id="h-August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest-2017-09-01T22:57:00.000Z"><span id="August_2017_Military_History_Writers.27_Contest"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest-2017-09-01T22:57:00.000Z"></span>August 2017 Military History Writers' Contest<span data-mw-comment-end="h-August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest-2017-09-01T22:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: August 2017 Military History Writers' Contest"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 2px solid lightsteelblue; 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Well done and congratulations, <a href="/wiki/User:AustralianRupert" title="User:AustralianRupert">AustralianRupert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AustralianRupert" title="User talk:AustralianRupert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-AustralianRupert-2017-09-01T22:57:00.000Z-August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AustralianRupert-2017-09-01T22:57:00.000Z-August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AustralianRupert-2017-09-01T22:57:00.000Z-August_2017_Military_History_Writers'_Contest"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_mover_granted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_mover_granted-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_mover_granted-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z"></span>Page mover granted<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_mover_granted-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Page mover granted"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alex_Shih-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z-Page_mover_granted"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_page_mover.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Wikipedia_page_mover.svg/80px-Wikipedia_page_mover.svg.png" decoding="async" width="80" height="80" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Wikipedia_page_mover.svg/120px-Wikipedia_page_mover.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Wikipedia_page_mover.svg/160px-Wikipedia_page_mover.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello, Kges1901. 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Thank you, and happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:Alex_Shih" title="User:Alex Shih">Alex Shih</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alex_Shih" title="User talk:Alex Shih"><sup>Talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Alex_Shih-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z-Page_mover_granted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 3 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alex_Shih-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z-Page_mover_granted"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alex_Shih-2017-09-03T14:27:00.000Z-Page_mover_granted"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army" data-mw-thread-id="h-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"><span id="266th_Rifle_Division_.26_35th_Army"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span>266th Rifle Division & 35th Army<span data-mw-comment-end="h-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: 266th Rifle Division & 35th Army"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For your careful creation of <a href="/wiki/266th_Rifle_Division_(Soviet_Union)" class="mw-redirect" title="266th Rifle Division (Soviet Union)">266th Rifle Division (Soviet Union)</a>, picking the most appropriate title (most notable actions were probably Second World War), linking all descendant formations & creating redirects for them, and creating a fully, practically up to date, article. Also, importantly, for removing refs to Feskov et al 2004 from <a href="/wiki/35th_Army_(Soviet_Union)" class="mw-redirect" title="35th Army (Soviet Union)">35th Army (Soviet Union)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 3 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z-266th_Rifle_Division_&_35th_Army"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-04T13:54:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span>We recently met! But how amazing I was a soldier of the 35th Army. Miracles!!! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-04T13:54:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 4 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-04T13:54:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-04T13:54:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-04T16:22:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Interesting, what unit did you serve in? <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-09-04T16:22:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 4 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-04T16:22:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-09-04T16:22:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span>566th Separate Anti-Aircraft Rocket Division. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 5 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z"></span>Thankyou Georgi. Was the 566th Separate Anti-Aircraft Rocket <i>Divizion</i> a unit that was part of a motor-rifle or tank division, or reported directly to the Staff of 35th Army? It' not listed in Kges1901's fine re-transcription of the Army Troops units from Feskov et al 2013... Cheers and very many thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 5 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-05T13:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z"></span>A difficult question for a simple Red Army sergeant. As far as I understand and remember the 566th was part of a (separate?) motor-rifle brigade. I do not remember the number of the brigade, and probably never knew. The brigade was part of the 35th Army. (Feskov - Вооруженные Силы СССР после Второй Мировой войны: от Красной армии к Советской? 2013 - year of publication or year of translation of the book?). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 6 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-05T20:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z"></span>That's the book. Kges1901 can tell you where to download it from the internet; I don't have it at present. Should show you the whole organisation of the DVVO. <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 6 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T10:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://nkvd.tomsk.ru/researches/publication/ussrmilitaryforces/"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-06T20:28:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z"></span>Tomsk NKVD Museum</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-09-06T20:28:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 6 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-06T20:28:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-09-06T20:28:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-06T20:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T22:00:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span>If this is a specified book, then everything is simple. There is mentioned 1414th Anti-Aircraft Rocket Regiment. 566th Separate Anti-Aircraft Rocket Divizion is his successor. And the brigade I was talking about was probably the successor of 192nd Motor Rifle Division. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Георгий Палкин (page does not exist)">Георгий Палкин</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="User talk:Георгий Палкин">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T22:00:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 6 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T22:00:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Георгий_Палкин-2017-09-06T22:00:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-03T21:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII.2C_September_2017"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/September_2017/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/September 2017/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/September_2017/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/September 2017/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/September_2017/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/September 2017/Book reviews">Nick-D and Hawkeye7 look at two recent releases</a></i></li> <li>Op-ed: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/September_2017/Op-ed" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/September 2017/Op-ed">Hawkeye7 on ANZACs in the Third Ypres Offensive</a></i></li> <li>Timeline: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/September_2017/World_War_I_timeline" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/September 2017/World War I timeline">This month in World War I</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Nick-D-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 8 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-2017-09-08T23:32:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXVII,_September_2017"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z"></span>Cannon AFB squadron reflagging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Cannon AFB squadron reflagging"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=522d_Special_Operations_Squadron&diff=801180816&oldid=800638133">this</a> edit I have amended "reflagged" to inactivated. <a href="/wiki/User:Lineagegeek" title="User:Lineagegeek">User:Lineagegeek</a> will tell you that in formal lineage terms, squadrons are not reflagged, they are inactivated. The new squadron is then "activated". Lineagegeek, would you please check my amendment to 522 SOS and you may also wish to check the wording at 9 SOS now.. <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z-Cannon_AFB_squadron_reflagging"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a>:</span>, I really had no idea what was going on there so I followed the wording in the 9 SOS article. The news articles on the inactivation called it a redesignation, but I didn't use that because redesignation to me implies transfer of lineage which seems to not have happened. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 18 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T04:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T09:43:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z"></span>Anytime you've got any questions, check AFHRA on lineage terms (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.afhra.af.mil/Portals/16/documents/Organizational-Records/AFD-090611-010.pdf">from page 6</a>, and then take a look/ask at LG's talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T09:43:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 18 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T09:43:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-18T09:43:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-18T11:21:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z"></span>Although I'd personally expand what happened, the use of reflagged with quotation marks is fine. the <a href="/wiki/9th_Special_Operations_Squadron" title="9th Special Operations Squadron">9th Special Operations Squadron</a> page Wiki article uses AFHRA lineage information that is out of date and the AFHRA page, although bearing a 2017 date, only brings L&H materials up to 2013, meaning that for references, Public Affairs press releases must be used as sources, and they aren't always entirely accurate on these matters. Another phrase to watch out for is "in a ceremony on (date) the XX Foo Squadron was . . ." The date in the press release is the date of the ceremony, which is sometimes not the date of the action -- ceremonies are sometimes scheduled to agree with some general's calendar, so I frequently use a "circa" date when press releases are the only available source. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lineagegeek" title="User:Lineagegeek">Lineagegeek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lineagegeek" title="User talk:Lineagegeek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-18T11:21:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 18 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-18T11:21:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-18T11:21:00.000Z-Kges1901-2017-09-18T07:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Russian_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Russian_Wikipedia-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Russian_Wikipedia-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z"></span>Russian Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Russian_Wikipedia-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Russian Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wreck_Smurfy-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z-Russian_Wikipedia"></span>Thanks for your edit on 87th Guards. I was intending to remove that myself, just didn't quite get to it last night. <a href="/wiki/User:Wreck_Smurfy" title="User:Wreck Smurfy">Wreck Smurfy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wreck_Smurfy" title="User talk:Wreck Smurfy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Wreck_Smurfy-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z-Russian_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 18 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wreck_Smurfy-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z-Russian_Wikipedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wreck_Smurfy-2017-09-18T19:17:00.000Z-Russian_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Page_Reviewer_Newsletter" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Page_Reviewer_Newsletter-2017-09-19T02:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Page_Reviewer_Newsletter-2017-09-19T02:16:00.000Z"></span>New Page Reviewer Newsletter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Page_Reviewer_Newsletter-2017-09-19T02:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: New Page Reviewer Newsletter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border:2px solid #90C0FF; background:#F0F0FF; width:99%; padding:4px"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TonyBallioni-2017-09-19T02:16:00.000Z-New_Page_Reviewer_Newsletter"></span> Hello Kges1901/2017, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!<figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/120px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/180px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/240px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><b>Backlog update</b>: </p> <ul><li>The new page backlog is currently at <big><a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">14304 </a></big> pages. 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For the current tranche of Coordinators, <a href="/wiki/User:AustralianRupert" title="User:AustralianRupert">AustralianRupert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AustralianRupert" title="User talk:AustralianRupert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-AustralianRupert-2017-09-21T10:39:00.000Z-2017_Military_history_WikiProject_Coordinator_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AustralianRupert-2017-09-21T10:39:00.000Z-2017_Military_history_WikiProject_Coordinator_election"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AustralianRupert-2017-09-21T10:39:00.000Z-2017_Military_history_WikiProject_Coordinator_election"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_on_"reflagging"" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_on_"reflagging"-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z"><span id="More_on_.22reflagging.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_on_"reflagging"-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z"></span>More on "reflagging"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_on_"reflagging"-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: More on "reflagging""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z-More_on_"reflagging""></span>I'll confess the source doesn't make it clear, but the <a href="/wiki/73d_Special_Operations_Squadron" class="mw-redirect" title="73d Special Operations Squadron">73d Special Operations Squadron</a> was not "reflagged" as the 16th. The <a href="/wiki/16th_Special_Operations_Squadron" title="16th Special Operations Squadron">16th Special Operations Squadron</a> has been at Cannon since 2009. This was a straight inactivation of the 73d, with the 16th absorbing its remaining resources in addition to those it already had. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lineagegeek" title="User:Lineagegeek">Lineagegeek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lineagegeek" title="User talk:Lineagegeek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z-More_on_"reflagging"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 21 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z-More_on_"reflagging""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z-More_on_"reflagging""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-21T21:31:00.000Z-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z"></span>Ok, thanks for providing your expertise on the subject. I was trying to guess what happened from the press releases. <a href="/wiki/User:Kges1901" title="User:Kges1901">Kges1901</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901#top" title="User talk:Kges1901">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Kges1901-2017-09-21T21:31:00.000Z-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 21 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kges1901-2017-09-21T21:31:00.000Z-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kges1901-2017-09-21T21:31:00.000Z-Lineagegeek-2017-09-21T20:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Malta_convoys'_mistake" data-mw-thread-id="h-Malta_convoys'_mistake-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z"><span id="Malta_convoys.27_mistake"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Malta_convoys'_mistake-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z"></span>Malta convoys' mistake<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Malta_convoys'_mistake-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Malta convoys' mistake"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lord_Ics-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z-Malta_convoys'_mistake"></span>I beg your pardon for my faulty citation in <a href="/wiki/Talk:Malta_convoys" title="Talk:Malta convoys">Talk:Malta convoys</a>. I was too rush and mistakes follow. <a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Ics" title="User:Lord Ics">Lord Ics</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lord_Ics" title="User talk:Lord Ics">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Lord_Ics-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z-Malta_convoys'_mistake" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lord_Ics-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z-Malta_convoys'_mistake"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lord_Ics-2017-09-27T07:49:00.000Z-Malta_convoys'_mistake"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z"><span id="Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing.21.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z"></span>Lineage DOES NOT equal the subunits of a wing!!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Lineage DOES NOT equal the subunits of a wing!!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!"></span>Think about this!! If you stick 'components' under 'lineage' neither makes sense!! This is why the USAF official fact sheets break up each of these sections individually, and is why I've had at times to create a horrible long heading 'Lineage, assignments, components, stations, equipment' [etc]. <a href="/wiki/User:Buckshot06" title="User:Buckshot06">Buckshot06</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06" title="User talk:Buckshot06">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September#c-Buckshot06-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buckshot06-2017-09-29T06:36:00.000Z-Lineage_DOES_NOT_equal_the_subunits_of_a_wing!!"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&oldid=817725050">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kges1901/2017/September&oldid=817725050</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden categories: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:MonthlyArchive_without_startyear" title="Category:MonthlyArchive without startyear">MonthlyArchive without startyear</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:MonthlyArchive_without_monthformat" title="Category:MonthlyArchive without monthformat">MonthlyArchive without monthformat</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 30 December 2017, at 05:29<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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