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Video </div> </figure> <h3 class="entry-title mh-posts-grid-title"> <a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/beautiful-breechloading-wheellock-video/" title="Beautiful Breechloading Wheellock (Video)" rel="bookmark"> Beautiful Breechloading Wheellock (Video) </a> </h3> <div class="mh-meta entry-meta"> <span class="entry-meta-date updated"><i class="far fa-clock"></i><a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/2016/11/">November 11, 2016</a></span> <span class="entry-meta-author author vcard"><i class="fa fa-user"></i><a class="fn" href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/author/imccollum/">Ian McCollum</a></span> <span class="entry-meta-categories"><i class="far fa-folder-open"></i><a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/category/video/" rel="category tag">Video</a>, <a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/category/wheel-lock/" rel="category tag">Wheel lock</a></span> <span class="entry-meta-comments"><i class="far fa-comment"></i><a 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Now I am extremely confused, why steel used by FEDERAL is Peek and not ferrum alloy? Or maybe Peak is new-fangled name for ferrum? Anyway this material allows higher pressure of 80000, as opposed to typical 65000. Supposedly<br /> <i>round can be run in regular rifles because the Peak Alloy case acts as a vessel that contains the excess pressure, preventing the action or receiver from experiencing more pressure than normal.</i><br /> But would not that result in higher thrust at bolt (and therefore locking system) which I would expect to be proportional to product of base area and pressure?</p> </div><!-- .comment-content --> <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4712488" data-commentid="4712488" data-postid="32979" data-belowelement="div-comment-4712488" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Daweo" aria-label="Reply to Daweo">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-4712708" class="comment odd alt depth-2 entry-content"> <article id="div-comment-4712708" class="comment-body"> <footer class="comment-meta"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9f408afa0166b497318d986e0772e4d?s=50&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9f408afa0166b497318d986e0772e4d?s=100&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">schwensen</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> <div class="comment-metadata"> <a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/enjoying-black-powder-episode-8-mauser-71-84/#comment-4712708"><time datetime="2025-02-22T09:08:30-07:00">February 22, 2025 at 9:08 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> <div class="comment-content"> <p>According to the article in American Rifleman, they allude to the new case material gripping the chamber walls, thus lowering the rearward force transmitted through the cartridge base. Maybe an analog to the differing materials gripping each other as supposedly happens with the original Thompson SMG &#8220;Blish Lock&#8221;.</p> <p>In my opinion this is one of many current marketing gimmicks, such as lever action AR&#8217;s and the .21 Sharps rimfire cartridges: attempting to sell more expensive alternatives to an already saturated USA gun market.</p> </div><!-- .comment-content --> <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4712708" data-commentid="4712708" data-postid="32979" data-belowelement="div-comment-4712708" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to schwensen" aria-label="Reply to schwensen">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> </li><!-- #comment-## --> <li id="comment-4712725" class="comment even depth-2 entry-content"> <article id="div-comment-4712725" class="comment-body"> <footer class="comment-meta"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d98f025162a6021d3b1938753577974?s=50&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d98f025162a6021d3b1938753577974?s=100&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Mike</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> <div class="comment-metadata"> <a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/enjoying-black-powder-episode-8-mauser-71-84/#comment-4712725"><time datetime="2025-02-22T09:15:58-07:00">February 22, 2025 at 9:15 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> <div class="comment-content"> <p>Marketing-speak aside, the only real difference is that it can be pushed to pressures that would burst brass cases. You are of course correct about bolt thrust, although using a Mauser base diameter should mitigate that (most modern actions are rated for Short and Ultra magnums).</p> </div><!-- .comment-content --> <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4712725" data-commentid="4712725" data-postid="32979" data-belowelement="div-comment-4712725" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Mike" aria-label="Reply to Mike">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> </li><!-- #comment-## --> </ul><!-- .children --> </li><!-- #comment-## --> </ol> <div id="respond" class="comment-respond"> <h3 id="reply-title" class="comment-reply-title">Leave a Reply <small><a rel="nofollow" id="cancel-comment-reply-link" href="/enjoying-black-powder-episode-8-mauser-71-84/#respond" style="display:none;">Cancel reply</a></small></h3><form action="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-comments-post.php" method="post" id="commentform" class="comment-form" novalidate><p class="comment-notes">Your email address will not be published.</p><p class="comment-form-comment"><label for="comment">Comment</label><br/><textarea autocomplete="new-password" id="f4f0d58121" name="f4f0d58121" cols="45" rows="5" aria-required="true"></textarea><textarea id="comment" aria-label="hp-comment" aria-hidden="true" name="comment" autocomplete="new-password" style="padding:0 !important;clip:rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px) !important;position:absolute !important;white-space:nowrap !important;height:1px !important;width:1px !important;overflow:hidden !important;" tabindex="-1"></textarea><script data-noptimize>document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "ae5e0a79fc042d5220e245786fbca047" );document.getElementById("f4f0d58121").setAttribute( "id", "comment" );</script></p><p class="comment-form-author"><label for="author">Name </label><span class="required">*</span><br/><input id="author" name="author" type="text" value="" size="30" aria-required='true' /></p> <p class="comment-form-email"><label for="email">Email </label><span class="required">*</span><br/><input id="email" name="email" type="text" value="" size="30" aria-required='true' /></p> <p class="comment-form-url"><label for="url">Website</label><br/><input id="url" name="url" type="text" value="" size="30" /></p> <p class="comment-form-cookies-consent"><input id="wp-comment-cookies-consent" name="wp-comment-cookies-consent" type="checkbox" value="yes" /><label for="wp-comment-cookies-consent">Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.</label></p> <p class="comment-subscription-form"><input type="checkbox" name="subscribe_comments" id="subscribe_comments" value="subscribe" style="width: auto; 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