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href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=671513&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=671513&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p671513" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=242377&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" class="username">RufDerMacht</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2022-02-12T05:57:14+00:00">February 12th, 2022, 5:57 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Pretty much all of the Main Campaign walkthroughs in the wiki - at least the ones I've looked at - are partly considerably out of date. This also applies to many other aspects of the wiki. The obvious reason for this is that nobody feels like keeping them up to date. That's understandable, because it's just annoying to keep track of every little change to the campaigns (and other aspects).<br> <br> This gives rise to some questions: Can one at some point assume that at least some main campaigns will be finished and then stay that way? Can't you just say that this or that campaign is now finished and that there will be no more changes? Or are there problems that I don't see that make this impossible?<br> <br> The consequence of this unreliability, as I would like to call it, is poor accessibility of the game, and thus poorer response. Which I think is a shame, because I think the game deserved a better response in the community.<br> <br> That leads me to one final question: is there a body on the development team where such decisions - this and that aspect of the game is now finalized - can be made?<br> <br> I find the question very relevant, because it depends on the acceptance of the game by the public. Because hardly anyone wants to submit to a design policy that is perceived as arbitrary.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p671518" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile671518"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=121854&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=121854_1351160483.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=121854&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" style="color: #16a589;" class="username-coloured">Lord-Knightmare</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Discord Moderator</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=121854&sr=posts&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3">2459</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 24th, 2010, 5:26 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Somewhere in the depths of Irdya, gathering my army to eventually destroy the known world.</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact Lord-Knightmare"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact Lord-Knightmare</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://tahsinjahinkhalid.github.io/" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content671518"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=671518&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p671518">Re: Walkthroughs Main Campaign in the Wiki are outdated</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=671518&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=671518&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p671518" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=121854&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" style="color: #16a589;" class="username-coloured">Lord-Knightmare</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2022-02-12T10:13:42+00:00">February 12th, 2022, 10:13 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote class="uncited"><div> Pretty much all of the Main Campaign walkthroughs in the wiki - at least the ones I've looked at - are partly considerably out of date. This also applies to many other aspects of the wiki. The obvious reason for this is that nobody feels like keeping them up to date. That's understandable, because it's just annoying to keep track of every little change to the campaigns (and other aspects). </div></blockquote> I agree with you. I did take an effort to write an up-to-date walkthrough for a campaign (WoF) but it's just one in a sea of many. <br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div> This gives rise to some questions: Can one at some point assume that at least some main campaigns will be finished and then stay that way? Can't you just say that this or that campaign is now finished and that there will be no more changes? Or are there problems that I don't see that make this impossible? </div></blockquote> Hmm, good question...I think it depends on how the campaigns are rated/reviewed. Normally, the ones being reworked or due for a revision are ones which received bad feedback (DM/EI/LoW/NR). However, when those revisions will be done is another issue. Nobody knows.<br> <br> We're all volunteers. We give our time and efforts to this game out of the love for the game. <br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div> That leads me to one final question: is there a body on the development team where such decisions - this and that aspect of the game is now finalized - can be made? </div></blockquote> The Project Council's SP content Member and MP Content Members as well as the Project Manager.<br> <br> Lastly, if you wish to do your version of the walkthroughs, you can make a new page on the wiki and get started. I guess you can start SotA, DW, DiD and UtBS, HttT, and TSG. 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I see the difficulties. There may be no easy solutions.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p672028" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile672028"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=172119&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" class="username">mal_shubertal</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=172119&sr=posts&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3">93</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 1st, 2018, 6:58 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content672028"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=672028&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p672028">Re: Walkthroughs Main Campaign in the Wiki are outdated</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=672028&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=672028&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p672028" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=172119&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" class="username">mal_shubertal</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2022-03-05T22:28:49+00:00">March 5th, 2022, 10:28 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Hi! I have been away from the game for a while, so I'm planning to play through some of the campaigns that have changed since I last saw them. I was thinking I could help out by updating some of the walkthroughs as I play through the campaigns. But I'm not sure about how to do that in a way that is not too disruptive/disrespectful. For example, if I go through one of these campaigns, and I see that the walkthrough is still pretty accurate for scenario 1 but very inaccurate for scenario 2, my instinct would be to make some edits on the scenario 1 section, and then totally erase and rewrite the scenario 2 section. I know this is all volunteer run, but I just want to know if I need to get some kind of permission or consult with someone before I start erasing big chunks of other people's writing?</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p672037" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile672037"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=113928_1671328089.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Project Manager</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=113928&sr=posts&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3">5692</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 22nd, 2009, 10:50 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Earth (occasionally)</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content672037"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=672037&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p672037">Re: Walkthroughs Main Campaign in the Wiki are outdated</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=672037&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=672037&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3#p672037" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2022-03-06T06:14:00+00:00">March 6th, 2022, 6:14 am</time> </p> <div class="content">You could check the history and see who edited it last. If they have a forum account or some other way to contact them you could try that, otherwise feel free to go ahead with your updates.</div> <div id="sig672037" class="signature">99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs<br> take one down, patch it around<br> -2,147,483,648 little bugs in the code</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./posting.php?mode=reply&t=55407&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./viewtopic.php?t=55407&sid=7aea792e0bc4d767a415e82238024ad3"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button 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