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Fashion Unzipped podcast: Bryony Gordon on sizeism, body image, and why Mark Zuckerberg is the Marlboro Man of our generation

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And I was like: 'I'm the most disgusting person in the world.' And then this little voice in my head went: 'Bryony, you have done far worse things in a bed over the years - get over yourself! This is an improvement. So what? You ate some crisps and watched some Netflix; the world's still spinning.'&quot;</p> <p>Age 38, she's learned to ignore the size label and wear what looks good, to avoid fitting rooms, to take a compliment when it's given, to wear her hair how she likes (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/hair/bryony-gordon-38-erased-lifetime-blonde-gone-pink/">it's currently pink</a>). But her relationship with fashion hasn't always been straightforward.</p> <p>&quot;For so long I felt dictated to by it - my body doesn't fit that type of thing, or I don't think I look good in that look; and as a larger lady, fashion doesn't appear to have been made for people like me.&quot;</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="dynamicMpu section"> <div id="advert_tmg_dyn_0" class="js-advert advert " data-adtype="dyn_0"></div> </div> <div class="articleBodyText section"> <div class="article-body-text component "> <div class="component-content"> <p>&quot;When I was growing up there was one type woman who was portrayed in the mainstream media,&quot; she says, &quot;and she was thin, and she was white, and she was pretty, and she was straight. Those kinds of women are perfectly valid; the problem is that if you don't happen to be that woman, you feel like you somehow don't fit - and even if you are that woman, you'll think that you're not thin or pretty enough.&quot;</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="articleBodyImage section"> <div class="article-body-image component " itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ImageObject" data-frz-ancestor> <div class="component-content"> <figure> <span class="article-body-image-image-container"> <div class="lazy-image article-body-image-image" style="padding-top:66.68%;" data-js="LazyImage" data-src="/web/20190128191609oe_/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=480" data-srcset="/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=480 480w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=960 960w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=580 580w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1160 1160w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=620 620w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240 1240w" data-sizes="100vw,(min-width: 480px) 480px,(min-width: 730px) 580px,(min-width: 1008px) 620px" data-alt="Bryony Gordon in the podcast studio"> <noscript> <img class="responsive article-body-image-image" src="/web/20190128191609im_/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=480" alt="Bryony Gordon in the podcast studio"> </noscript> </div> </span> <figcaption> <span itemprop="caption" class="article-body-image-caption">Bryony Gordon in the podcast studio</span> <span itemprop="copyrightHolder" class="article-body-image-copyright"> <span class="article-body-image-copyright-label">Credit:</span> Heathcliff O&#39;Malley </span> </figcaption> </figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="articleBodyText section"> <div class="article-body-text component "> <div class="component-content"> <p><span class="m_first-letter m_first-letter--flagged">S</span>hops exacerbate the problem, keeping anything with an L or XL tag in the stockroom - so while they're catering for a range of sizes, you wouldn't know it from the shopfloor. And as for social media? While she finds the variety of faces - and bodies - visible on instagram refreshing, &quot;I'm pretty sure that in ten years we'll look back on this period of social media as like the Wild West. A bit like we look back now on when they had adverts for smoking - like Mark Zuckerberg is our Marlboro Man.&quot;</p> <p><em>To listen to the full episode, click<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://apple.co/2QtA8iZ"> here</a> or search 'Fashion Unzipped' wherever you normally get your podcasts.</em></p> <p><em>Send us your feedback and fashion questions at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/http://telegraph.co.uk/">unzipped@telegraph.co.uk</a>, and check back soon for a new episode. 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