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Fashion Unzipped podcast: Bryony Gordon on sizeism, body image, and why Mark Zuckerberg is the Marlboro Man of our generation
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She's written openly about her <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/bryony-gordon-on-her-struggles-with-drugs-bulimia-and-ocd-cocain/">struggle with bulimia</a>, and making the decision to <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/bryony-gordon-taken-lifetime-stop-loathing-body/">stop loathing her body</a> - now, with a daughter of her own, she wants to pass on some of what she's learned. </p> <p>For example: "the other night, I sat in my bed and I watched <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/2019/01/11/sex-education-netflix-review-addictive-teen-comedy-drama-empathy/">Sex Education</a>, which I just love, and I ate a whole big tube of Pringles and a grab bag of Doritos. And I was like: 'I'm the most disgusting person in the world.' And then this little voice in my head went: 'Bryony, you have done far worse things in a bed over the years - get over yourself! This is an improvement. So what? You ate some crisps and watched some Netflix; the world's still spinning.'"</p> <p>Age 38, she's learned to ignore the size label and wear what looks good, to avoid fitting rooms, to take a compliment when it's given, to wear her hair how she likes (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/hair/bryony-gordon-38-erased-lifetime-blonde-gone-pink/">it's currently pink</a>). But her relationship with fashion hasn't always been straightforward.</p> <p>"For so long I felt dictated to by it - my body doesn't fit that type of thing, or I don't think I look good in that look; and as a larger lady, fashion doesn't appear to have been made for people like me."</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="dynamicMpu section"> <div id="advert_tmg_dyn_0" class="js-advert advert " data-adtype="dyn_0"></div> </div> <div class="articleBodyText section"> <div class="article-body-text component "> <div class="component-content"> <p>"When I was growing up there was one type woman who was portrayed in the mainstream media," she says, "and she was thin, and she was white, and she was pretty, and she was straight. Those kinds of women are perfectly valid; the problem is that if you don't happen to be that woman, you feel like you somehow don't fit - and even if you are that woman, you'll think that you're not thin or pretty enough."</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="articleBodyImage section"> <div class="article-body-image component " itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ImageObject" data-frz-ancestor> <div class="component-content"> <figure> <span class="article-body-image-image-container"> <div class="lazy-image article-body-image-image" style="padding-top:66.68%;" data-js="LazyImage" data-src="/web/20190128191609oe_/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=480" data-srcset="/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=480 480w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=960 960w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=580 580w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1160 1160w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=620 620w,/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240 1240w" data-sizes="100vw,(min-width: 480px) 480px,(min-width: 730px) 580px,(min-width: 1008px) 620px" data-alt="Bryony Gordon in the podcast studio"> <noscript> <img class="responsive article-body-image-image" src="/web/20190128191609im_/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/fashion/2019/01/23/TELEMMGLPICT000186403503_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=480" alt="Bryony Gordon in the podcast studio"> </noscript> </div> </span> <figcaption> <span itemprop="caption" class="article-body-image-caption">Bryony Gordon in the podcast studio</span> <span itemprop="copyrightHolder" class="article-body-image-copyright"> <span class="article-body-image-copyright-label">Credit:</span> Heathcliff O'Malley </span> </figcaption> </figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="articleBodyText section"> <div class="article-body-text component "> <div class="component-content"> <p><span class="m_first-letter m_first-letter--flagged">S</span>hops exacerbate the problem, keeping anything with an L or XL tag in the stockroom - so while they're catering for a range of sizes, you wouldn't know it from the shopfloor. And as for social media? While she finds the variety of faces - and bodies - visible on instagram refreshing, "I'm pretty sure that in ten years we'll look back on this period of social media as like the Wild West. A bit like we look back now on when they had adverts for smoking - like Mark Zuckerberg is our Marlboro Man."</p> <p><em>To listen to the full episode, click<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/https://apple.co/2QtA8iZ"> here</a> or search 'Fashion Unzipped' wherever you normally get your podcasts.</em></p> <p><em>Send us your feedback and fashion questions at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190128191609/http://telegraph.co.uk/">unzipped@telegraph.co.uk</a>, and check back soon for a new episode. 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