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En conversaciones con protagonistas del proceso y personalidades colombianas, Santos revela detalles no conocidos por la opinión pública sobre las dificultades que surgieron durante el proceso de paz.\n\nEste es un contenido educativo de la Biblioteca Abierta del Proceso de Paz colombiano – BAPP (www.bapp.com.co).","genre":["Gobierno","Podcasts"],"url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-historia-no-contada-del-proceso-de-paz/id1771334367","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/b3/95/b2/b395b22c-7717-a37f-9633-679879d525f5/mza_3267399045890873886.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp","aggregateRating":{"@type":"AggregateRating","ratingValue":0,"reviewCount":0,"itemReviewed":{"@type":"CreativeWorkSeries","name":"La historia no contada del proceso de paz","description":"Juan Manuel Santos, expresidente de Colombia y Premio Nobel de Paz, comparte anécdotas y reflexiones sobre la negociación que logró ponerle fin a más de 50 años de conflicto con las FARC-EP, la guerrilla más antigua y poderosa del hemisferio occidental. En conversaciones con protagonistas del proceso y personalidades colombianas, Santos revela detalles no conocidos por la opinión pública sobre las dificultades que surgieron durante el proceso de paz.\n\nEste es un contenido educativo de la Biblioteca Abierta del Proceso de Paz colombiano – BAPP (www.bapp.com.co).","genre":["Gobierno","Podcasts"],"url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-historia-no-contada-del-proceso-de-paz/id1771334367","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/b3/95/b2/b395b22c-7717-a37f-9633-679879d525f5/mza_3267399045890873886.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"}},"workExample":[{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-11-27","description":"El proceso de paz con las FARC estuvo lleno de obstáculos y momentos de crisis, como se ha abordado en los episodios anteriores. Cuando por fin se veía la luz, después de la renegociación y de la firma de un nuevo Acuerdo, venía lo más complejo: implementar el acuerdo de paz más completo y ambicioso hasta ese momento negociado. Más de 300 páginas repletas de transformaciones necesarias para empezar el largo camino de la construcción de paz después de 50 años de conflicto. \n\nLa implementación ya no dependía de las partes negociadoras, sino de que todo el aparato estatal se activara para echar a andar múltiples reformas. Todo esto, en medio de la marcada polarización que vivía el país después del plebiscito. \n\nEn este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con Gloria Castrillón, una de las periodistas con más experiencia en el cubrimiento de procesos de paz en el país, sobre los múltiples tropiezos que ha tenido la implementación, pero también sobre las ‘pequeñas grandes victorias’ que han ocurrido desde que se firmó el Acuerdo. \n\nPara conocer más sobre el proceso de dejación de armas de las FARC-EP, uno de los hitos más importantes en la fase de implementación, los invitamos a ver esta infografía: https://bapp.com.co/infografia-sobre-cese-al-fuego-y-dejacion-de-armas/. También a leer la carta de Jean Arnault, Jefe de la Misión de las Naciones Unidas en Colombia, en la que se detallan el armamento y municiones recolectados, y se indica que el material está almacenado a la espera de su destino para la construcción de tres monumentos https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-al-presidente-juan-manuel-santos-calderon-sobre-finalizacion-de-certificacion-de-dejacion-de-armas/.\n\nSi creen que saben cuáles fueron las zonas donde las FARC se agruparon después de la firma del Acuerdo, los invitamos a probar su conocimiento con este juego: https://bapp.com.co/recursos/juegos/mapa-zvtn/.\n\nFinalmente, les compartimos el último informe del Secretario General de Naciones Unidas sobre la Misión de Verificación en Colombia: https://bapp.com.co/documento/informe-trimestral-del-secretario-general-sobre-la-mision-de-verificacion-en-colombia-s-2024-694/ y la infografía de ese informe, por si no quieren leerlo completo: https://bapp.com.co/documento/infografia-del-informe-trimestral-del-secretario-general-sobre-la-mision-de-verificacion-en-colombia-s-2024-694/","duration":"PT32M4S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Firmamos el Acuerdo, ¿y ahora qué?","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-27","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/firmamos-el-acuerdo-y-ahora-qu%C3%A9/id1771334367?i=1000678360526","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/83/53/19/83531976-8e88-fcfd-090e-115da5d10afc/mza_103814083568678721.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-11-20","description":"En este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con quien fue su jefe negociador en La Habana, Humberto de La Calle. \n\nComo en todo proceso de paz, durante el proceso con las FARC también hubo saboteadores que cuestionaron, criticaron y pusieron trabas a las negociaciones en La Habana. \n\nPor una parte, el Centro Democrático, que tenía todo el derecho a hacer oposición, optó por prácticas irresponsables y mentirosas para ejercerla. También funcionarios públicos, como el entonces Procurador General de la Nación, Alejandro Ordoñez, aprovecharon su cargo y la institución que representaban para dirigir ataques al proceso de paz y manipular la información al respecto. \n\nPor otro lado estaban los militares retirados, que tenían preocupaciones absolutamente legítimas, pero que generaron ruido en la opinión pública. \n\nAdemás, las FARC con sus pronunciamientos radicales y beligerantes tampoco ayudaron a que los colombianos vieran con esperanza el proceso de paz.\n\nPara mayor contexto los invitamos a conocer la carta que el expresidente Santos le envió, en su momento, al Procurador General Alejandro Ordoñez: https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-del-presidente-santos-dirigida-al-procurador-general-alejandro-ordonez-maldonado/ ; las declaraciones de Humberto de La Calle desmintiendo los mitos y mentiras sobre el proceso de paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-jefe-de-la-delegacion-del-gobierno-nacional-humberto-de-la-calle-sobre-los-mitos-del-proceso-de-paz/ ; y la declaración del General (ra) Jorge Enrique Mora sobre las líneas rojas en la negociación: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-general-ra-jorge-enrique-mora-rangel/ \n\n\n\n\nAdemás, pueden consultar el documento de ACORE con observaciones al Acuerdo de Paz después del plebiscito: https://bapp.com.co/documento/observaciones-a-los-acuerdos-pactados-con-las-farc-ep/ y el documento de sistematización de opciones y propuestas de los voceros del “No” y lo que quedó acordado después de la renegociación: https://bapp.com.co/documento/documento-de-trabajo-sistematizacion-de-opciones-y-propuestas-de-voceros-del-no-y-lo-acordado-en-el-nuevo-acuerdo/","duration":"PT34M16S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Los saboteadores de la paz","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-20","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/los-saboteadores-de-la-paz/id1771334367?i=1000677588210","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/2d/bd/42/2dbd42d2-0824-dffe-19d9-f242f8cfbaec/mza_12791496430225428156.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-11-13","description":"Después de casi un año y medio de discusiones, por fin se alcanzó un acuerdo sobre el punto de víctimas, que contemplaba la creación del Sistema Integral de Verdad, Justicia, Reparación y No Repetición. El tema se había vuelto tan complicado que fue necesario sacarlo de la mesa y designar a un grupo de expertos externos, 3 personas escogidas por cada parte, para que pudieran encontrar una alternativa viable.\n\n\n\n\nFinalmente, todo proceso de paz se reduce a dónde se traza la línea entre justicia y paz.\n\n\n\n\nEn este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con dos de los protagonistas de esta negociación: Juan Carlos Henao (q.e.p.d.) expresidente de la Corte Constitucional, docente, exrector de la Universidad Externado y asesor experto del Gobierno para el punto 5 del Acuerdo de Paz; y Enrique Santiago, político y abogado español, y asesor jurídico de las FARC-EP en la mesa de conversaciones.\n\n\n\n\nPara que tengan un poco más de contexto, les compartimos el discurso del presidente Santos sobre la línea divisoria entre justicia y paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/palabras-del-presidente-santos-en-la-condecoracion-a-la-corporacion-excelencia-en-la-justicia/ y el discurso de Rodrigo Londoño Jiménez, máximo comandante de las FARC-EP, en la ceremonia de la firma del acuerdo sobre la Jurisdicción Especial para la Paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-del-comandante-timoleon-jimenez-en-el-cierre-del-acuerdo-sobre-la-jurisdiccion-especial-para-la-paz/ \n\n\n\n\nLa señora chilena que se escucha en el episodio es Antonia Urrejola, nombrada por el Alto Comisionado de ONU DDHH como experta internacional en derechos humanos para identificar los obstáculos a la implementación del Acuerdo de Paz de 2016. Aquí pueden ver la presentación de su informe sobre la implementación del Acuerdo de Paz en Colombia: https://bapp.com.co/documento/presentacion-del-informe-de-la-experta-internacional-en-derechos-humanos-antonia-urrejola-sobre-la-implementacion-del-acuerdo-de-paz-en-colombia/ \n\n\n\n\nSi necesitan un resumen de lo que se acordó sobre el punto 5 del Acuerdo, les recomendamos la infografía: “Todo sobre el Sistema Integral de Verdad, Justicia, Reparación y No Repetición”: https://bapp.com.co/sistema-integral-verdad-justicia-reparacion-repeticion/ y el video “El papel de las víctimas en el acuerdo de paz”: https://bapp.com.co/el-papel-de-las-victimas-en-el-acuerdo-de-paz/\n\n\n\n\nFinalmente, aquí encontrarán algunas fotos de momentos clave durante la negociación de ese punto: la reunión en Bogotá del equipo de juristas (Gobierno y FARC) https://bapp.com.co/documento/asesores-juridicos-del-gobierno-logran-borrador-de-acuerdo/ ; la intervención de los representantes de las víctimas en el evento de anuncio del acuerdo sobre el punto 5: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-de-los-representantes-de-las-victimas-en-el-evento-de-anuncio-del-acuerdo-sobre-el-punto-5/ ; y la reunión del segundo grupo de víctimas con las delegaciones: https://bapp.com.co/documento/reunion-del-segundo-grupo-de-victimas-con-las-delegaciones/","duration":"PT34M20S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"La paz paralizada por la justicia","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-13","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-paz-paralizada-por-la-justicia/id1771334367?i=1000676752185","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/42/58/b4/4258b408-3cd8-c8d6-e915-dacf7c13936d/mza_10698106935334963813.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-11-06","description":"Aunque las FARC no querían hablar de narcotráfico durante los diálogos de paz, para el Gobierno era indispensable que se incluyera un punto sobre el problema de las drogas en la agenda y en el Acuerdo. Finalmente, la guerrilla aceptó que había una marcada relación entre los cultivos ilícitos y la guerra, y que el narcotráfico había financiado el conflicto. \n\nEn este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con el general Óscar Naranjo, exvicepresidente de la República, exdirector de la Policía Nacional y negociador plenipotenciario del Gobierno en La Habana, y recuerdan esta dura negociación y la crisis que suscitó la discusión sobre el problema de las drogas, uno de los fenómenos más delicados, violentos y complejos de la historia del país. \n\nPara mayor contexto sobre el punto 4 del Acuerdo les recomendamos el video “Una solución innovadora para el eterno problema de las drogas”: https://bapp.com.co/una-solucion-innovadora-para-el-eterno-problema-de-las-drogas/ ; la intervención del entonces presidente Santos ante la Asamblea General de la ONU sobre la necesidad de un cambio en la política antidrogas: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-del-presidente-santos-ante-la-asamblea-general-de-la-onu-en-su-65-periodo-de-sesiones-ordinarias/ ; las declaraciones de Humberto de la Calle al inicio de la discusión del punto sobre la solución al problema de drogas ilícitas: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-jefe-de-la-delegacion-del-gobierno-nacional-humberto-de-la-calle-al-inicio-de-la-discusion-del-cuarto-punto-de-la-agenda-de-paz-solucion-al-problema-de-las-drogas-ilicitas/ ; y el discurso del presidente Santos después de alcanzado el acuerdo en ese punto https://bapp.com.co/documento/palabras-del-presidente-santos-en-el-foro-politica-de-drogas-tras-25-anos-de-la-muerte-de-luis-carlos-galan-que-tanto-hemos-avanzado/ \n\n\nTambién les recomendamos conocer el acuerdo para poner en marcha un esfuerzo de sustitución voluntaria de cultivos de uso ilícito en 10 veredas del municipio de Briceño, Antioquia, como medida de desescalamiento y construcción de confianza: https://bapp.com.co/documento/acuerdo-para-poner-en-marcha-un-esfuerzo-conjunto-de-sustitucion-voluntaria-de-cultivos-de-uso-ilicito-en-el-municipio-de-bricen%cc%83o-antioquia/","duration":"PT25M6S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Narcotráfico, una piedra en el camino.","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-06","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/narcotr%C3%A1fico-una-piedra-en-el-camino/id1771334367?i=1000675857529","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/45/fb/07/45fb07a1-0f46-6b64-9e00-5df24fc9f4d9/mza_18105290594453283329.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-30","description":"Uno de los aspectos más difíciles de cualquier proceso de paz es el manejo de las comunicaciones. Como se evidenció durante la fase secreta, la confidencialidad fue muy conveniente para avanzar en los diálogos, pero rápidamente fue necesario cambiar el rumbo y empezar a informarle al país sobre la negociación. La ciudadanía y los medios de comunicación necesitaban información para poder sentir confianza y esperanza frente al proceso de paz. \n\nEl hecho de que el gobierno optara por ser reservado frente a lo que sucedía en La Habana fue generando un vacío de información que la oposición aprovechó para dominar la narrativa alrededor de lo que supuestamente pasaba en la mesa de negociaciones. \n\nEn este episodio, María Elvira Samper y Roberto Pombo, dos periodistas que conocieron de cerca el proceso de paz, conversan con el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos sobre el acceso a la información, el papel de los medios en el cubrimiento de los diálogos de paz y, en general, sobre los retos de comunicar una negociación que ocurrió en otro país. \n\nLes recomendamos ver la declaración de Humberto de la Calle antes de viajar a Oslo a la instalación de la Mesa: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-antes-del-viaje-a-oslo-para-la-instalacion-de-la-mesa-de-conversaciones/ \n\nTambién una entrevista de Sergio Jaramillo para el programa Urna de Cristal, en junio de 2014: https://bapp.com.co/documento/entrevista-a-sergio-jaramillo-alto-comisionado-de-paz-en-el-programa-urna-de-cristal/\n\n\nY por último, los invitamos a visitar la sección sobre “¿Cómo cubrir el proceso de paz?”, una iniciativa de pedagogía para la paz dirigida a periodistas, que se implementó entre marzo de 2013 y diciembre de 2015: https://bapp.com.co/iniciativas/como-cubrir-el-proceso-de-paz/","duration":"PT24M18S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Contar o no contar, ese era el dilema","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-10-30","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/contar-o-no-contar-ese-era-el-dilema/id1771334367?i=1000674962257","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/bc/85/30/bc85306a-03b7-80f8-f59f-87f4903cdb80/mza_14331936338004614509.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-23","description":"Paradójicamente, las Fuerzas Militares y de Policía no fueron incluidas, ni tenidas en cuenta, en los intentos anteriores de negociación con las FARC. Eso cambió en el proceso de La Habana, no solo con la designación de dos generales retirados como negociadores plenipotenciarios, sino con la participación de militares y policías activos en la subcomisión para el fin del conflicto, la instancia en la que se definiría el proceso para que la guerrilla dejara las armas e iniciara su tránsito a la vida civil. \n\nDesde el principio las FARC habían insistido en un cese al fuego, pero el gobierno fue claro en que iban a negociar como si no hubiera guerra y combatir como si no hubiera proceso de paz. Pero, ¿era viable seguir negociando y al mismo tiempo contar muertos de lado y lado? \n\nEn este episodio, el General Alberto José Mejía, excomandante de las Fuerzas Militares, y el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos recuerdan el ataque de la guerrilla a los soldados en Buenos Aires, Cauca; el secuestro del General Alzate; y otros momentos que llevaron a la opinión pública a cuestionar el proceso de paz e incluso considerarlo fallido.\n\nPara conocer más sobre los retos de negociar en la guerra los invitamos a ver este video: https://bapp.com.co/los-retos-de-negociar-en-la-guerra/ \n\nTambién pueden leer el comunicado de las FARC-EP sobre el secuestro del general Rubén Darío Alzate: https://bapp.com.co/documento/comunicado-sobre-el-general-ruben-dario-alzate/, y la alocución del entonces presidente Juan Manuel Santos cuando se supo del secuestro: https://bapp.com.co/documento/alocucion-del-presidente-de-la-republica-juan-manuel-santos-calderon/ \n\nAquí podrán escuchar las palabras del primer mandatario sobre el atentado a los soldados en el Cauca: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-presidente-juan-manuel-santos-sobre-atentado-a-soldados-en-cauca-2/ \n\nY para que conozcan un poco más sobre la participación de los militares y policías activos en la mesa de conversaciones, los invitamos a ver este video sobre el proceso de dejación de armas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4PzPfTmNFU","duration":"PT14M19S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Negociar la paz en medio de la guerra","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-10-23","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/negociar-la-paz-en-medio-de-la-guerra/id1771334367?i=1000674106247","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/cb/b1/15/cbb11599-8aa3-d505-b6d0-d6524351a720/mza_3143805264828362270.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-16","description":"El 04 de noviembre de 2011 fue abatido Guillermo León Sáenz, alias ‘Alfonso Cano’, el entonces comandante de las FARC. 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Cuando por fin se veía la luz, después de la renegociación y de la firma de un nuevo Acuerdo, venía lo más complejo: implementar el acuerdo de paz más completo y ambicioso hasta ese momento negociado. Más de 300 páginas repletas de transformaciones necesarias para empezar el largo camino de la construcción de paz después de 50 años de conflicto. La implementación ya no dependía de las partes negociadoras, sino de que todo el aparato estatal se activara para echar a andar múltiples reformas. Todo esto, en medio de la marcada polarización que vivía el país después del plebiscito. En este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con Gloria Castrillón, una de las periodistas con más experiencia en el cubrimiento de procesos de paz en el país, sobre los múltiples tropiezos que ha tenido la implementación, pero también sobre las ‘pequeñas grandes victorias’ que han ocurrido desde que se firmó el Acuerdo. Para conocer más sobre el proceso de dejación de armas de las FARC-EP, uno de los hitos más importantes en la fase de implementación, los invitamos a ver esta infografía: https://bapp.com.co/infografia-sobre-cese-al-fuego-y-dejacion-de-armas/. También a leer la carta de Jean Arnault, Jefe de la Misión de las Naciones Unidas en Colombia, en la que se detallan el armamento y municiones recolectados, y se indica que el material está almacenado a la espera de su destino para la construcción de tres monumentos https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-al-presidente-juan-manuel-santos-calderon-sobre-finalizacion-de-certificacion-de-dejacion-de-armas/. Si creen que saben cuáles fueron las zonas donde las FARC se agruparon después de la firma del Acuerdo, los invitamos a probar su conocimiento con este juego: https://bapp.com.co/recursos/juegos/mapa-zvtn/. Finalmente, les compartimos el último informe del Secretario General de Naciones Unidas sobre la Misión de Verificación en Colombia: https://bapp.com.co/documento/informe-trimestral-del-secretario-general-sobre-la-mision-de-verificacion-en-colombia-s-2024-694/ y la infografía de ese informe, por si no quieren leerlo completo: https://bapp.com.co/documento/infografia-del-informe-trimestral-del-secretario-general-sobre-la-mision-de-verificacion-en-colombia-s-2024-694/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">32 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/los-saboteadores-de-la-paz/id1771334367?i=1000677588210" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #cfcfcf; --aspect-ratio: 1; --placeholder-bg-color: #cfcfcf; "> <picture class="svelte-3e3mdo"><source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/2d/bd/42/2dbd42d2-0824-dffe-19d9-f242f8cfbaec/mza_12791496430225428156.jpg/188x188bb.webp 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/2d/bd/42/2dbd42d2-0824-dffe-19d9-f242f8cfbaec/mza_12791496430225428156.jpg/376x376bb.webp 376w" type="image/webp"> <source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/2d/bd/42/2dbd42d2-0824-dffe-19d9-f242f8cfbaec/mza_12791496430225428156.jpg/188x188bb-60.jpg 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/2d/bd/42/2dbd42d2-0824-dffe-19d9-f242f8cfbaec/mza_12791496430225428156.jpg/376x376bb-60.jpg 376w" type="image/jpeg"> <img alt="Los saboteadores de la paz" class="artwork-component__contents artwork-component__image svelte-3e3mdo" loading="lazy" src="/assets/artwork/1x1.gif" decoding="async" width="188" height="188" style="opacity: 1;"></picture> </div> </div> <div class="episode-details-container svelte-zoxxje"><section class="episode-details-container svelte-5dvoy6 episode-details-container--wide-layout episode-details-container--has-episode-artwork" data-testid="episode-content"><div class="episode-details svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="episode-details__eyebrow svelte-5dvoy6"> <p class="episode-details__published-date svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-details__published-date">20 NOV</p> </div> <div class="episode-details__title svelte-5dvoy6"> <h3 class="episode-details__title-wrapper svelte-5dvoy6" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 3;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa"><span class="episode-details__title-text" data-testid="episode-lockup-title">Los saboteadores de la paz</span></span> </div></h3> </div> <p class="episode-details__summary svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-content__summary" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 1;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa">En este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con quien fue su jefe negociador en La Habana, Humberto de La Calle. Como en todo proceso de paz, durante el proceso con las FARC también hubo saboteadores que cuestionaron, criticaron y pusieron trabas a las negociaciones en La Habana. Por una parte, el Centro Democrático, que tenía todo el derecho a hacer oposición, optó por prácticas irresponsables y mentirosas para ejercerla. También funcionarios públicos, como el entonces Procurador General de la Nación, Alejandro Ordoñez, aprovecharon su cargo y la institución que representaban para dirigir ataques al proceso de paz y manipular la información al respecto. Por otro lado estaban los militares retirados, que tenían preocupaciones absolutamente legítimas, pero que generaron ruido en la opinión pública. Además, las FARC con sus pronunciamientos radicales y beligerantes tampoco ayudaron a que los colombianos vieran con esperanza el proceso de paz. Para mayor contexto los invitamos a conocer la carta que el expresidente Santos le envió, en su momento, al Procurador General Alejandro Ordoñez: https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-del-presidente-santos-dirigida-al-procurador-general-alejandro-ordonez-maldonado/ ; las declaraciones de Humberto de La Calle desmintiendo los mitos y mentiras sobre el proceso de paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-jefe-de-la-delegacion-del-gobierno-nacional-humberto-de-la-calle-sobre-los-mitos-del-proceso-de-paz/ ; y la declaración del General (ra) Jorge Enrique Mora sobre las líneas rojas en la negociación: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-general-ra-jorge-enrique-mora-rangel/ Además, pueden consultar el documento de ACORE con observaciones al Acuerdo de Paz después del plebiscito: https://bapp.com.co/documento/observaciones-a-los-acuerdos-pactados-con-las-farc-ep/ y el documento de sistematización de opciones y propuestas de los voceros del “No” y lo que quedó acordado después de la renegociación: https://bapp.com.co/documento/documento-de-trabajo-sistematizacion-de-opciones-y-propuestas-de-voceros-del-no-y-lo-acordado-en-el-nuevo-acuerdo/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">34 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-paz-paralizada-por-la-justicia/id1771334367?i=1000676752185" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #cdcdcd; --aspect-ratio: 1; --placeholder-bg-color: #cdcdcd; "> <picture class="svelte-3e3mdo"><source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/42/58/b4/4258b408-3cd8-c8d6-e915-dacf7c13936d/mza_10698106935334963813.jpg/188x188bb.webp 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/42/58/b4/4258b408-3cd8-c8d6-e915-dacf7c13936d/mza_10698106935334963813.jpg/376x376bb.webp 376w" type="image/webp"> <source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/42/58/b4/4258b408-3cd8-c8d6-e915-dacf7c13936d/mza_10698106935334963813.jpg/188x188bb-60.jpg 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/42/58/b4/4258b408-3cd8-c8d6-e915-dacf7c13936d/mza_10698106935334963813.jpg/376x376bb-60.jpg 376w" type="image/jpeg"> <img alt="La paz paralizada por la justicia" class="artwork-component__contents artwork-component__image svelte-3e3mdo" loading="lazy" src="/assets/artwork/1x1.gif" decoding="async" width="188" height="188" style="opacity: 1;"></picture> </div> </div> <div class="episode-details-container svelte-zoxxje"><section class="episode-details-container svelte-5dvoy6 episode-details-container--wide-layout episode-details-container--has-episode-artwork" data-testid="episode-content"><div class="episode-details svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="episode-details__eyebrow svelte-5dvoy6"> <p class="episode-details__published-date svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-details__published-date">13 NOV</p> </div> <div class="episode-details__title svelte-5dvoy6"> <h3 class="episode-details__title-wrapper svelte-5dvoy6" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 3;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa"><span class="episode-details__title-text" data-testid="episode-lockup-title">La paz paralizada por la justicia</span></span> </div></h3> </div> <p class="episode-details__summary svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-content__summary" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 1;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa">Después de casi un año y medio de discusiones, por fin se alcanzó un acuerdo sobre el punto de víctimas, que contemplaba la creación del Sistema Integral de Verdad, Justicia, Reparación y No Repetición. El tema se había vuelto tan complicado que fue necesario sacarlo de la mesa y designar a un grupo de expertos externos, 3 personas escogidas por cada parte, para que pudieran encontrar una alternativa viable. Finalmente, todo proceso de paz se reduce a dónde se traza la línea entre justicia y paz. En este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con dos de los protagonistas de esta negociación: Juan Carlos Henao (q.e.p.d.) expresidente de la Corte Constitucional, docente, exrector de la Universidad Externado y asesor experto del Gobierno para el punto 5 del Acuerdo de Paz; y Enrique Santiago, político y abogado español, y asesor jurídico de las FARC-EP en la mesa de conversaciones. Para que tengan un poco más de contexto, les compartimos el discurso del presidente Santos sobre la línea divisoria entre justicia y paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/palabras-del-presidente-santos-en-la-condecoracion-a-la-corporacion-excelencia-en-la-justicia/ y el discurso de Rodrigo Londoño Jiménez, máximo comandante de las FARC-EP, en la ceremonia de la firma del acuerdo sobre la Jurisdicción Especial para la Paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-del-comandante-timoleon-jimenez-en-el-cierre-del-acuerdo-sobre-la-jurisdiccion-especial-para-la-paz/ La señora chilena que se escucha en el episodio es Antonia Urrejola, nombrada por el Alto Comisionado de ONU DDHH como experta internacional en derechos humanos para identificar los obstáculos a la implementación del Acuerdo de Paz de 2016. Aquí pueden ver la presentación de su informe sobre la implementación del Acuerdo de Paz en Colombia: https://bapp.com.co/documento/presentacion-del-informe-de-la-experta-internacional-en-derechos-humanos-antonia-urrejola-sobre-la-implementacion-del-acuerdo-de-paz-en-colombia/ Si necesitan un resumen de lo que se acordó sobre el punto 5 del Acuerdo, les recomendamos la infografía: “Todo sobre el Sistema Integral de Verdad, Justicia, Reparación y No Repetición”: https://bapp.com.co/sistema-integral-verdad-justicia-reparacion-repeticion/ y el video “El papel de las víctimas en el acuerdo de paz”: https://bapp.com.co/el-papel-de-las-victimas-en-el-acuerdo-de-paz/ Finalmente, aquí encontrarán algunas fotos de momentos clave durante la negociación de ese punto: la reunión en Bogotá del equipo de juristas (Gobierno y FARC) https://bapp.com.co/documento/asesores-juridicos-del-gobierno-logran-borrador-de-acuerdo/ ; la intervención de los representantes de las víctimas en el evento de anuncio del acuerdo sobre el punto 5: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-de-los-representantes-de-las-victimas-en-el-evento-de-anuncio-del-acuerdo-sobre-el-punto-5/ ; y la reunión del segundo grupo de víctimas con las delegaciones: https://bapp.com.co/documento/reunion-del-segundo-grupo-de-victimas-con-las-delegaciones/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">34 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/narcotr%C3%A1fico-una-piedra-en-el-camino/id1771334367?i=1000675857529" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #d0d0d0; --aspect-ratio: 1; --placeholder-bg-color: #d0d0d0; "> <picture class="svelte-3e3mdo"><source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/45/fb/07/45fb07a1-0f46-6b64-9e00-5df24fc9f4d9/mza_18105290594453283329.jpg/188x188bb.webp 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/45/fb/07/45fb07a1-0f46-6b64-9e00-5df24fc9f4d9/mza_18105290594453283329.jpg/376x376bb.webp 376w" type="image/webp"> <source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/45/fb/07/45fb07a1-0f46-6b64-9e00-5df24fc9f4d9/mza_18105290594453283329.jpg/188x188bb-60.jpg 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/45/fb/07/45fb07a1-0f46-6b64-9e00-5df24fc9f4d9/mza_18105290594453283329.jpg/376x376bb-60.jpg 376w" type="image/jpeg"> <img alt="Narcotráfico, una piedra en el camino." class="artwork-component__contents artwork-component__image svelte-3e3mdo" loading="lazy" src="/assets/artwork/1x1.gif" decoding="async" width="188" height="188" style="opacity: 1;"></picture> </div> </div> <div class="episode-details-container svelte-zoxxje"><section class="episode-details-container svelte-5dvoy6 episode-details-container--wide-layout episode-details-container--has-episode-artwork" data-testid="episode-content"><div class="episode-details svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="episode-details__eyebrow svelte-5dvoy6"> <p class="episode-details__published-date svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-details__published-date">6 NOV</p> </div> <div class="episode-details__title svelte-5dvoy6"> <h3 class="episode-details__title-wrapper svelte-5dvoy6" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 3;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa"><span class="episode-details__title-text" data-testid="episode-lockup-title">Narcotráfico, una piedra en el camino.</span></span> </div></h3> </div> <p class="episode-details__summary svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-content__summary" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 1;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa">Aunque las FARC no querían hablar de narcotráfico durante los diálogos de paz, para el Gobierno era indispensable que se incluyera un punto sobre el problema de las drogas en la agenda y en el Acuerdo. Finalmente, la guerrilla aceptó que había una marcada relación entre los cultivos ilícitos y la guerra, y que el narcotráfico había financiado el conflicto.  En este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con el general Óscar Naranjo, exvicepresidente de la República, exdirector de la Policía Nacional y negociador plenipotenciario del Gobierno en La Habana, y recuerdan esta dura negociación y la crisis que suscitó la discusión sobre el problema de las drogas, uno de los fenómenos más delicados, violentos y complejos de la historia del país.  Para mayor contexto sobre el punto 4 del Acuerdo les recomendamos el video “Una solución innovadora para el eterno problema de las drogas”: https://bapp.com.co/una-solucion-innovadora-para-el-eterno-problema-de-las-drogas/ ; la intervención del entonces presidente Santos ante la Asamblea General de la ONU sobre la necesidad de un cambio en la política antidrogas: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-del-presidente-santos-ante-la-asamblea-general-de-la-onu-en-su-65-periodo-de-sesiones-ordinarias/ ; las declaraciones de Humberto de la Calle al inicio de la discusión del punto sobre la solución al problema de drogas ilícitas: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-jefe-de-la-delegacion-del-gobierno-nacional-humberto-de-la-calle-al-inicio-de-la-discusion-del-cuarto-punto-de-la-agenda-de-paz-solucion-al-problema-de-las-drogas-ilicitas/ ; y el discurso del presidente Santos después de alcanzado el acuerdo en ese punto https://bapp.com.co/documento/palabras-del-presidente-santos-en-el-foro-politica-de-drogas-tras-25-anos-de-la-muerte-de-luis-carlos-galan-que-tanto-hemos-avanzado/   También les recomendamos conocer el  acuerdo para poner en marcha un esfuerzo de sustitución voluntaria de cultivos de uso ilícito en 10 veredas del municipio de Briceño, Antioquia, como medida de desescalamiento y construcción de confianza: https://bapp.com.co/documento/acuerdo-para-poner-en-marcha-un-esfuerzo-conjunto-de-sustitucion-voluntaria-de-cultivos-de-uso-ilicito-en-el-municipio-de-bricen%cc%83o-antioquia/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">25 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/contar-o-no-contar-ese-era-el-dilema/id1771334367?i=1000674962257" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #b3b3b3; 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Como se evidenció durante la fase secreta, la confidencialidad fue muy conveniente para avanzar en los diálogos, pero rápidamente fue necesario cambiar el rumbo y empezar a informarle al país sobre la negociación. La ciudadanía y los medios de comunicación necesitaban información para poder sentir confianza y esperanza frente al proceso de paz.  El hecho de que el gobierno optara por ser reservado frente a lo que sucedía en La Habana fue generando un vacío de información que la oposición aprovechó para dominar la narrativa alrededor de lo que supuestamente pasaba en la mesa de negociaciones.  En este episodio, María Elvira Samper y Roberto Pombo, dos periodistas que conocieron de cerca el proceso de paz, conversan con el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos sobre el acceso a la información, el papel de los medios en el cubrimiento de los diálogos de paz y, en general, sobre los retos de comunicar una negociación que ocurrió en otro país.   Les recomendamos ver la declaración de Humberto de la Calle antes de viajar a Oslo a la instalación de la Mesa: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-antes-del-viaje-a-oslo-para-la-instalacion-de-la-mesa-de-conversaciones/  También una entrevista de Sergio Jaramillo para el programa Urna de Cristal, en junio de 2014: https://bapp.com.co/documento/entrevista-a-sergio-jaramillo-alto-comisionado-de-paz-en-el-programa-urna-de-cristal/ Y por último, los invitamos a visitar la sección sobre “¿Cómo cubrir el proceso de paz?”, una iniciativa de pedagogía para la paz dirigida a periodistas, que se implementó entre marzo de 2013 y diciembre de 2015: https://bapp.com.co/iniciativas/como-cubrir-el-proceso-de-paz/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">24 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/negociar-la-paz-en-medio-de-la-guerra/id1771334367?i=1000674106247" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #afafaf; 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Eso cambió en el proceso de La Habana, no solo con la designación de dos generales retirados como negociadores plenipotenciarios, sino con la participación de militares y policías activos en la subcomisión para el fin del conflicto, la instancia en la que se definiría el proceso para que la guerrilla dejara las armas e iniciara su tránsito a la vida civil.  Desde el principio las FARC habían insistido en un cese al fuego, pero el gobierno fue claro en que iban a negociar como si no hubiera guerra y combatir como si no hubiera proceso de paz. Pero, ¿era viable seguir negociando y al mismo tiempo contar muertos de lado y lado?  En este episodio, el General Alberto José Mejía, excomandante de las Fuerzas Militares, y el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos recuerdan el ataque de la guerrilla a los soldados en Buenos Aires, Cauca; el secuestro del General Alzate; y otros momentos que llevaron a la opinión pública a cuestionar el proceso de paz e incluso considerarlo fallido. Para conocer más sobre los retos de negociar en la guerra los invitamos a ver este video: https://bapp.com.co/los-retos-de-negociar-en-la-guerra/  También pueden leer el comunicado de las FARC-EP sobre el secuestro del general Rubén Darío Alzate: https://bapp.com.co/documento/comunicado-sobre-el-general-ruben-dario-alzate/, y la alocución del entonces presidente Juan Manuel Santos cuando se supo del secuestro: https://bapp.com.co/documento/alocucion-del-presidente-de-la-republica-juan-manuel-santos-calderon/  Aquí podrán escuchar las palabras del primer mandatario sobre el atentado a los soldados en el Cauca: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-presidente-juan-manuel-santos-sobre-atentado-a-soldados-en-cauca-2/  Y para que conozcan un poco más sobre la participación de los militares y policías activos en la mesa de conversaciones, los invitamos a ver este video sobre el proceso de dejación de armas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4PzPfTmNFU</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">14 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-ca%C3%ADda-del-pen%C3%BAltimo-comandante-de-las-farc/id1771334367?i=1000673256274" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #afafaf; 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No solo era el golpe más fuerte que había recibido la guerrilla en toda su historia, y una importante victoria para las Fuerzas Militares, sino que había una particularidad: para ese momento, el gobierno y las FARC ya habían iniciado unas conversaciones exploratorias que serían el preludio del proceso de paz. Las reglas de juego eran claras: negociarían como si no hubiese guerra y combatirían como si no hubiese negociación. En este episodio, Juan Manuel Santos y Rodrigo Londoño, el último comandante de las FARC-EP y actual presidente del Partido Comunes, conversan sobre la caída de ‘Alfonso Cano’, lo que significó para la guerrilla y las repercusiones en los incipientes diálogos de paz.  Para conocer el anuncio sobre la operación Odiseo, les recomendamos esta alocución del presidente Juan Manuel Santos: https://bapp.com.co/documento/alocucion-del-presidente-santos-tras-la-caida-de-alfonso-cano/  También pueden leer el mensaje que el presidente Santos envió a las FARC, a través del facilitador Henry Acosta, después de la muerte de Cano: https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-de-henry-acosta-a-pablo-catatumbo-mensaje-del-presidente-santos-a-las-farc-ep/,   Y en este comunicado podrán encontrar la reacción de las FARC-EP: https://bapp.com.co/documento/comunicado-de-las-farc-ep-reconociendo-la-muerte-de-alfonso-cano/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">11 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/todo-se-derrumb%C3%B3-y-el-proceso-no-hab%C3%ADa-empezado/id1771334367?i=1000672316637" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #c1c1c1; --aspect-ratio: 1; --placeholder-bg-color: #c1c1c1; "> <picture class="svelte-3e3mdo"><source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/09/6e/81/096e81fd-a145-1c19-b996-1aa6c4b143f1/mza_17160007092607125468.jpg/188x188bb.webp 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/09/6e/81/096e81fd-a145-1c19-b996-1aa6c4b143f1/mza_17160007092607125468.jpg/376x376bb.webp 376w" type="image/webp"> <source sizes="188px" srcset="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/09/6e/81/096e81fd-a145-1c19-b996-1aa6c4b143f1/mza_17160007092607125468.jpg/188x188bb-60.jpg 188w,https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/09/6e/81/096e81fd-a145-1c19-b996-1aa6c4b143f1/mza_17160007092607125468.jpg/376x376bb-60.jpg 376w" type="image/jpeg"> <img alt="Todo se derrumbó y el proceso no había empezado" class="artwork-component__contents artwork-component__image svelte-3e3mdo" loading="lazy" src="/assets/artwork/1x1.gif" decoding="async" width="188" height="188" style="opacity: 1;"></picture> </div> </div> <div class="episode-details-container svelte-zoxxje"><section class="episode-details-container svelte-5dvoy6 episode-details-container--wide-layout episode-details-container--has-episode-artwork" data-testid="episode-content"><div class="episode-details svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="episode-details__eyebrow svelte-5dvoy6"> <p class="episode-details__published-date svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-details__published-date">9 OCT</p> </div> <div class="episode-details__title svelte-5dvoy6"> <h3 class="episode-details__title-wrapper svelte-5dvoy6" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 3;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa"><span class="episode-details__title-text" data-testid="episode-lockup-title">Todo se derrumbó y el proceso no había empezado</span></span> </div></h3> </div> <p class="episode-details__summary svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-content__summary" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 1;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa">La única vez que la mesa de conversaciones con las FARC-EP se rompió formalmente, y los negociadores de la guerrilla estuvieron a punto de regresar a la selva colombiana, fue cuando se comenzó a hablar de dejación de armas durante la fase exploratoria. Un punto de honor para las FARC-EP y una línea roja para el gobierno. En esta conversación, el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos y Sergio Jaramillo, Alto Comisionado de Paz en esa época, recuerdan detalles y anécdotas que no se conocen sobre los momentos de tensión durante la etapa secreta, cuando se hizo evidente la fragilidad de los diálogos. Para conocer más sobre la fase exploratoria de las negociaciones, les recomendamos este video “¿Cuál fue el origen de los diálogos de paz entre el Estado y las FARC-EP en 2012?” en: https://bapp.com.co/cual-fue-el-origen-de-los-dialogos-de-paz-entre-el-estado-y-las-farc-ep-en-2012/ y visitar la línea del tiempo en: https://bapp.com.co/fase-exploratoria/#fase-exploratoria Como bonus, les dejamos un documento histórico, el “Acta de la primera reunión entre el gobierno nacional y las FARC-EP” que pueden consultar en: https://bapp.com.co/documento/acta-primera-reunion-preparatoriaentre-delegados-del-gobierno-de-colombia-y-de-las-farc-ep/</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container svelte-4y8aap lockup-has-artwork uses-wide-layout"><div class="episode-block svelte-4y8aap"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--duration svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Reproducir" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div> <div class="episode-duration-container svelte-4y8aap"><div class="duration svelte-rzxh9h duration--alt" data-testid="episode-duration"><div class="progress-bar svelte-rzxh9h"></div> <div class="progress-time svelte-rzxh9h">22 min</div> </div></div> <div class="cloud-buttons-wrapper svelte-4y8aap"><div class="cloud-buttons svelte-1k199x4" data-testid="cloud-buttons"><div class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-1k199x4"><div slot="override-save-button" class="cloud-buttons__save svelte-4y8aap"></div></div> <amp-contextual-menu-button config="[object Object]" class="svelte-aofnlv"> <span aria-label="MÁS" class="more-button svelte-aofnlv more-button--non-platter" data-testid="more-button" slot="trigger-content"><svg width="28" height="28" viewBox="0 0 28 28" class="glyph" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><circle fill="var(--iconCircleFill, transparent)" cx="14" cy="14" r="14"></circle><path fill="var(--iconEllipsisFill, white)" d="M10.105 14c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.564-1.55-.862 0-1.557.695-1.557 1.55 0 .848.695 1.55 1.557 1.55.855 0 1.564-.702 1.564-1.55zm5.437 0c0-.87-.68-1.55-1.542-1.55A1.55 1.55 0 0012.45 14c0 .848.695 1.55 1.55 1.55.848 0 1.542-.702 1.542-1.55zm5.474 0c0-.87-.687-1.55-1.557-1.55-.87 0-1.564.695-1.564 1.55 0 .848.694 1.55 1.564 1.55.848 0 1.557-.702 1.557-1.55z"></path></svg></span> </amp-contextual-menu-button> </div></div></div></section></div></div></a> </div> </li><li class="svelte-8rlk6b"><div class="episode svelte-zoxxje"> <a data-testid="click-action" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-plebitusa-colombia-le-dijo-no-a-la-paz/id1771334367?i=1000671502035" class="link-action svelte-1wtdvjb"> <div data-testid="episode-wrapper" class="episode-wrapper svelte-zoxxje uses-wide-layout has-artwork has-episode-artwork"><div class="artwork svelte-zoxxje" data-testid="episode-wrapper__artwork"><div data-testid="artwork-component" class="artwork-component artwork-component--aspect-ratio artwork-component--orientation-square svelte-3e3mdo container-style artwork-component--fullwidth artwork-component--has-borders" style=" --artwork-bg-color: #9e9e9e; 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Detrás de ese resultado hubo todo tipo de desinformación, miedos, mentiras malintencionadas y un huracán en el Caribe, pero también muchas personas que genuinamente no apoyaban el Acuerdo. Ocho años después, el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos y el escritor Ricardo Silva Romero se encontraron para hablar sobre el plebiscito, las campañas del Sí y del No, y lo que se vivió ese día, que fue de tusa para unos y de celebración para otros. Para que la plebitusa no los deprima, les recomendamos una dosis de esperanza recordando todas las manifestaciones ciudadanas a favor del Acuerdo. Pueden ver la galería fotográfica “Los colombianos marchan por la paz” en la BAPP: https://bapp.com.co/marchan-por-paz/ Para conocer qué fue lo que pasó después del plebiscito, los invitamos a consultar la sección sobre la ‘Fase de renegociación’ en la línea del tiempo interactiva que encontrarán en la página principal de la BAPP o en https://bapp.com.co/fase-de-renegociacion/#fase-de-renegociacion Por último, si todavía tienen dudas sobre los ajustes que sufrió el Acuerdo después de la renegociación, pueden comparar el Acuerdo firmado el 26 de septiembre en Cartagena con el Acuerdo que se firmó el 24 de noviembre en el Teatro Colón, visitando la sección ‘El Acuerdo de Paz’ en https://bapp.com.co/el-acuerdo-de-paz/ y activando la opción ‘¿Qué cambió en la renegociación?’.</span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" 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class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Turkmenistan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/uz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Uzbekistan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/vu/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Vanuatu</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/vn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Vietnam</span></a> </li> </ul><div class="region-header svelte-vqg5px"><h2 class="svelte-vqg5px">Europa</h2> <button slot="button" class="see-all-button svelte-1gg2msz">Ver todo </button></div> <ul class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/am/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Armenia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/at/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Österreich</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/by/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" 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class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ee/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Estonia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/fi/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Finland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/fr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>France (Français)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ge/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Georgia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/de/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Deutschland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/gr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Greece</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/hu/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Hungary</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/is/browse" 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href="/az/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Azerbaijan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bh/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Bahrain</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bj/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Benin</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Botswana</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Brunei Darussalam</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bf/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Burkina Faso</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Cameroun</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cv/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Cape Verde</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/td/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Chad</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ci/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Côte d’Ivoire</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cd/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Congo, The Democratic Republic Of The</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/eg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Egypt</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Eswatini</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ga/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Gabon</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/gm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Gambia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/gh/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Ghana</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/gw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Guinea-Bissau</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/in/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>India</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/iq/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Iraq</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/il/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Israel</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/jo/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Jordan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ke/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Kenya</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/kw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Kuwait</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/lb/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Lebanon</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/lr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Liberia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ly/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Libya</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Madagascar</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Malawi</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ml/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Mali</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Mauritania</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mu/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Mauritius</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ma/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Morocco</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Mozambique</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/na/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Namibia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ne/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Niger (English)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ng/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Nigeria</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/om/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Oman</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/qa/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Qatar</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Congo, Republic of</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/rw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Rwanda</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sa/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Saudi Arabia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Senegal</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sc/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Seychelles</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sl/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Sierra Leone</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/za/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>South Africa</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/lk/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Sri Lanka</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/tj/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Tajikistan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/tz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Tanzania, United Republic Of</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/tn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Tunisia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/tm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Turkmenistan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ae/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>United Arab Emirates</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ug/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Uganda</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ye/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Yemen</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/zm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Zambia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/zw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Zimbabwe</span></a> </li> </ul><div class="region-header svelte-vqg5px"><h2 class="svelte-vqg5px">Asia-Pacífico</h2> <button slot="button" class="see-all-button svelte-1gg2msz">Ver todo </button></div> <ul class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/au/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Australia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bt/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Bhutan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/kh/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Cambodia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>中国大陆</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/fj/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Fiji</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/hk/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>香港</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/id/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Indonesia (English)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/jp/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>日本</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/kz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Kazakhstan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/kr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>대한민국</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/kg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Kyrgyzstan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/la/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Lao People's Democratic Republic</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mo/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>澳門</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/my/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Malaysia (English)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mv/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Maldives</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/fm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Micronesia, Federated States of</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Mongolia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Myanmar</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/np/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Nepal</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/nz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>New Zealand</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/pg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Papua New Guinea</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ph/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Philippines</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Singapore</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sb/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Solomon Islands</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/tw/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>台灣</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/th/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Thailand</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/to/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Tonga</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/tm/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Turkmenistan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/uz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Uzbekistan</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/vu/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Vanuatu</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/vn/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Vietnam</span></a> </li> </ul><div class="region-header svelte-vqg5px"><h2 class="svelte-vqg5px">Europa</h2> <button slot="button" class="see-all-button svelte-1gg2msz">Ver todo </button></div> <ul class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/am/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Armenia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/at/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Österreich</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/by/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Belarus</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/be/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Belgium</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ba/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Bosnia and Herzegovina</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/bg/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Bulgaria</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/hr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Croatia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cy/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Cyprus</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/cz/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Czechia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/dk/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Denmark</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ee/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Estonia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/fi/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Finland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/fr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>France (Français)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ge/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Georgia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/de/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Deutschland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/gr/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Greece</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/hu/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Hungary</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/is/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Iceland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ie/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Ireland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/it/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Italia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/xk/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Kosovo</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/lv/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Latvia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/lt/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Lithuania</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/lu/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Luxembourg (English)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mt/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Malta</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/md/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Moldova, Republic Of</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/me/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Montenegro</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/nl/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Nederland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/mk/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>North Macedonia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/no/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Norway</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/pl/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Poland</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/pt/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Portugal (Português)</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ro/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Romania</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/ru/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Россия</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/rs/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Serbia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a href="/sk/browse" data-testid="region-list-link" class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><span>Slovakia</span></a> </li><li class="svelte-1uxhjdt"><a 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de los aspectos más difíciles de cualquier proceso de paz es el manejo de las comunicaciones. 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También funcionarios públicos, como el entonces Procurador General de la Nación, Alejandro Ordoñez, aprovecharon su cargo y la institución que representaban para dirigir ataques al proceso de paz y manipular la información al respecto. \n\nPor otro lado estaban los militares retirados, que tenían preocupaciones absolutamente legítimas, pero que generaron ruido en la opinión pública. \n\nAdemás, las FARC con sus pronunciamientos radicales y beligerantes tampoco ayudaron a que los colombianos vieran con esperanza el proceso de paz.\n\nPara mayor contexto los invitamos a conocer la carta que el expresidente Santos le envió, en su momento, al Procurador General Alejandro Ordoñez: https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-del-presidente-santos-dirigida-al-procurador-general-alejandro-ordonez-maldonado/ ; las declaraciones de Humberto de La Calle desmintiendo los mitos y mentiras sobre el proceso de paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-jefe-de-la-delegacion-del-gobierno-nacional-humberto-de-la-calle-sobre-los-mitos-del-proceso-de-paz/ ; y la declaración del General (ra) Jorge Enrique Mora sobre las líneas rojas en la negociación: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-general-ra-jorge-enrique-mora-rangel/ \n\n\n\n\nAdemás, pueden consultar el documento de ACORE con observaciones al Acuerdo de Paz después del plebiscito: https://bapp.com.co/documento/observaciones-a-los-acuerdos-pactados-con-las-farc-ep/ y el documento de sistematización de opciones y propuestas de los voceros del “No” y lo que quedó acordado después de la renegociación: https://bapp.com.co/documento/documento-de-trabajo-sistematizacion-de-opciones-y-propuestas-de-voceros-del-no-y-lo-acordado-en-el-nuevo-acuerdo/","duration":"PT34M16S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Los saboteadores de la paz","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-20","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/los-saboteadores-de-la-paz/id1771334367?i=1000677588210","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/2d/bd/42/2dbd42d2-0824-dffe-19d9-f242f8cfbaec/mza_12791496430225428156.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-11-13","description":"Después de casi un año y medio de discusiones, por fin se alcanzó un acuerdo sobre el punto de víctimas, que contemplaba la creación del Sistema Integral de Verdad, Justicia, Reparación y No Repetición. El tema se había vuelto tan complicado que fue necesario sacarlo de la mesa y designar a un grupo de expertos externos, 3 personas escogidas por cada parte, para que pudieran encontrar una alternativa viable.\n\n\n\n\nFinalmente, todo proceso de paz se reduce a dónde se traza la línea entre justicia y paz.\n\n\n\n\nEn este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con dos de los protagonistas de esta negociación: Juan Carlos Henao (q.e.p.d.) expresidente de la Corte Constitucional, docente, exrector de la Universidad Externado y asesor experto del Gobierno para el punto 5 del Acuerdo de Paz; y Enrique Santiago, político y abogado español, y asesor jurídico de las FARC-EP en la mesa de conversaciones.\n\n\n\n\nPara que tengan un poco más de contexto, les compartimos el discurso del presidente Santos sobre la línea divisoria entre justicia y paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/palabras-del-presidente-santos-en-la-condecoracion-a-la-corporacion-excelencia-en-la-justicia/ y el discurso de Rodrigo Londoño Jiménez, máximo comandante de las FARC-EP, en la ceremonia de la firma del acuerdo sobre la Jurisdicción Especial para la Paz: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-del-comandante-timoleon-jimenez-en-el-cierre-del-acuerdo-sobre-la-jurisdiccion-especial-para-la-paz/ \n\n\n\n\nLa señora chilena que se escucha en el episodio es Antonia Urrejola, nombrada por el Alto Comisionado de ONU DDHH como experta internacional en derechos humanos para identificar los obstáculos a la implementación del Acuerdo de Paz de 2016. Aquí pueden ver la presentación de su informe sobre la implementación del Acuerdo de Paz en Colombia: https://bapp.com.co/documento/presentacion-del-informe-de-la-experta-internacional-en-derechos-humanos-antonia-urrejola-sobre-la-implementacion-del-acuerdo-de-paz-en-colombia/ \n\n\n\n\nSi necesitan un resumen de lo que se acordó sobre el punto 5 del Acuerdo, les recomendamos la infografía: “Todo sobre el Sistema Integral de Verdad, Justicia, Reparación y No Repetición”: https://bapp.com.co/sistema-integral-verdad-justicia-reparacion-repeticion/ y el video “El papel de las víctimas en el acuerdo de paz”: https://bapp.com.co/el-papel-de-las-victimas-en-el-acuerdo-de-paz/\n\n\n\n\nFinalmente, aquí encontrarán algunas fotos de momentos clave durante la negociación de ese punto: la reunión en Bogotá del equipo de juristas (Gobierno y FARC) https://bapp.com.co/documento/asesores-juridicos-del-gobierno-logran-borrador-de-acuerdo/ ; la intervención de los representantes de las víctimas en el evento de anuncio del acuerdo sobre el punto 5: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-de-los-representantes-de-las-victimas-en-el-evento-de-anuncio-del-acuerdo-sobre-el-punto-5/ ; y la reunión del segundo grupo de víctimas con las delegaciones: https://bapp.com.co/documento/reunion-del-segundo-grupo-de-victimas-con-las-delegaciones/","duration":"PT34M20S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"La paz paralizada por la justicia","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-13","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-paz-paralizada-por-la-justicia/id1771334367?i=1000676752185","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/42/58/b4/4258b408-3cd8-c8d6-e915-dacf7c13936d/mza_10698106935334963813.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-11-06","description":"Aunque las FARC no querían hablar de narcotráfico durante los diálogos de paz, para el Gobierno era indispensable que se incluyera un punto sobre el problema de las drogas en la agenda y en el Acuerdo. Finalmente, la guerrilla aceptó que había una marcada relación entre los cultivos ilícitos y la guerra, y que el narcotráfico había financiado el conflicto. \n\nEn este episodio el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos conversa con el general Óscar Naranjo, exvicepresidente de la República, exdirector de la Policía Nacional y negociador plenipotenciario del Gobierno en La Habana, y recuerdan esta dura negociación y la crisis que suscitó la discusión sobre el problema de las drogas, uno de los fenómenos más delicados, violentos y complejos de la historia del país. \n\nPara mayor contexto sobre el punto 4 del Acuerdo les recomendamos el video “Una solución innovadora para el eterno problema de las drogas”: https://bapp.com.co/una-solucion-innovadora-para-el-eterno-problema-de-las-drogas/ ; la intervención del entonces presidente Santos ante la Asamblea General de la ONU sobre la necesidad de un cambio en la política antidrogas: https://bapp.com.co/documento/intervencion-del-presidente-santos-ante-la-asamblea-general-de-la-onu-en-su-65-periodo-de-sesiones-ordinarias/ ; las declaraciones de Humberto de la Calle al inicio de la discusión del punto sobre la solución al problema de drogas ilícitas: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-jefe-de-la-delegacion-del-gobierno-nacional-humberto-de-la-calle-al-inicio-de-la-discusion-del-cuarto-punto-de-la-agenda-de-paz-solucion-al-problema-de-las-drogas-ilicitas/ ; y el discurso del presidente Santos después de alcanzado el acuerdo en ese punto https://bapp.com.co/documento/palabras-del-presidente-santos-en-el-foro-politica-de-drogas-tras-25-anos-de-la-muerte-de-luis-carlos-galan-que-tanto-hemos-avanzado/ \n\n\nTambién les recomendamos conocer el acuerdo para poner en marcha un esfuerzo de sustitución voluntaria de cultivos de uso ilícito en 10 veredas del municipio de Briceño, Antioquia, como medida de desescalamiento y construcción de confianza: https://bapp.com.co/documento/acuerdo-para-poner-en-marcha-un-esfuerzo-conjunto-de-sustitucion-voluntaria-de-cultivos-de-uso-ilicito-en-el-municipio-de-bricen%cc%83o-antioquia/","duration":"PT25M6S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Narcotráfico, una piedra en el camino.","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-11-06","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/narcotr%C3%A1fico-una-piedra-en-el-camino/id1771334367?i=1000675857529","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/45/fb/07/45fb07a1-0f46-6b64-9e00-5df24fc9f4d9/mza_18105290594453283329.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-30","description":"Uno de los aspectos más difíciles de cualquier proceso de paz es el manejo de las comunicaciones. Como se evidenció durante la fase secreta, la confidencialidad fue muy conveniente para avanzar en los diálogos, pero rápidamente fue necesario cambiar el rumbo y empezar a informarle al país sobre la negociación. La ciudadanía y los medios de comunicación necesitaban información para poder sentir confianza y esperanza frente al proceso de paz. \n\nEl hecho de que el gobierno optara por ser reservado frente a lo que sucedía en La Habana fue generando un vacío de información que la oposición aprovechó para dominar la narrativa alrededor de lo que supuestamente pasaba en la mesa de negociaciones. \n\nEn este episodio, María Elvira Samper y Roberto Pombo, dos periodistas que conocieron de cerca el proceso de paz, conversan con el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos sobre el acceso a la información, el papel de los medios en el cubrimiento de los diálogos de paz y, en general, sobre los retos de comunicar una negociación que ocurrió en otro país. \n\nLes recomendamos ver la declaración de Humberto de la Calle antes de viajar a Oslo a la instalación de la Mesa: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-antes-del-viaje-a-oslo-para-la-instalacion-de-la-mesa-de-conversaciones/ \n\nTambién una entrevista de Sergio Jaramillo para el programa Urna de Cristal, en junio de 2014: https://bapp.com.co/documento/entrevista-a-sergio-jaramillo-alto-comisionado-de-paz-en-el-programa-urna-de-cristal/\n\n\nY por último, los invitamos a visitar la sección sobre “¿Cómo cubrir el proceso de paz?”, una iniciativa de pedagogía para la paz dirigida a periodistas, que se implementó entre marzo de 2013 y diciembre de 2015: https://bapp.com.co/iniciativas/como-cubrir-el-proceso-de-paz/","duration":"PT24M18S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Contar o no contar, ese era el dilema","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-10-30","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/contar-o-no-contar-ese-era-el-dilema/id1771334367?i=1000674962257","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/bc/85/30/bc85306a-03b7-80f8-f59f-87f4903cdb80/mza_14331936338004614509.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-23","description":"Paradójicamente, las Fuerzas Militares y de Policía no fueron incluidas, ni tenidas en cuenta, en los intentos anteriores de negociación con las FARC. Eso cambió en el proceso de La Habana, no solo con la designación de dos generales retirados como negociadores plenipotenciarios, sino con la participación de militares y policías activos en la subcomisión para el fin del conflicto, la instancia en la que se definiría el proceso para que la guerrilla dejara las armas e iniciara su tránsito a la vida civil. \n\nDesde el principio las FARC habían insistido en un cese al fuego, pero el gobierno fue claro en que iban a negociar como si no hubiera guerra y combatir como si no hubiera proceso de paz. Pero, ¿era viable seguir negociando y al mismo tiempo contar muertos de lado y lado? \n\nEn este episodio, el General Alberto José Mejía, excomandante de las Fuerzas Militares, y el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos recuerdan el ataque de la guerrilla a los soldados en Buenos Aires, Cauca; el secuestro del General Alzate; y otros momentos que llevaron a la opinión pública a cuestionar el proceso de paz e incluso considerarlo fallido.\n\nPara conocer más sobre los retos de negociar en la guerra los invitamos a ver este video: https://bapp.com.co/los-retos-de-negociar-en-la-guerra/ \n\nTambién pueden leer el comunicado de las FARC-EP sobre el secuestro del general Rubén Darío Alzate: https://bapp.com.co/documento/comunicado-sobre-el-general-ruben-dario-alzate/, y la alocución del entonces presidente Juan Manuel Santos cuando se supo del secuestro: https://bapp.com.co/documento/alocucion-del-presidente-de-la-republica-juan-manuel-santos-calderon/ \n\nAquí podrán escuchar las palabras del primer mandatario sobre el atentado a los soldados en el Cauca: https://bapp.com.co/documento/declaracion-del-presidente-juan-manuel-santos-sobre-atentado-a-soldados-en-cauca-2/ \n\nY para que conozcan un poco más sobre la participación de los militares y policías activos en la mesa de conversaciones, los invitamos a ver este video sobre el proceso de dejación de armas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4PzPfTmNFU","duration":"PT14M19S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Negociar la paz en medio de la guerra","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-10-23","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/negociar-la-paz-en-medio-de-la-guerra/id1771334367?i=1000674106247","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts221/v4/cb/b1/15/cbb11599-8aa3-d505-b6d0-d6524351a720/mza_3143805264828362270.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-16","description":"El 04 de noviembre de 2011 fue abatido Guillermo León Sáenz, alias ‘Alfonso Cano’, el entonces comandante de las FARC. No solo era el golpe más fuerte que había recibido la guerrilla en toda su historia, y una importante victoria para las Fuerzas Militares, sino que había una particularidad: para ese momento, el gobierno y las FARC ya habían iniciado unas conversaciones exploratorias que serían el preludio del proceso de paz. Las reglas de juego eran claras: negociarían como si no hubiese guerra y combatirían como si no hubiese negociación.\n\nEn este episodio, Juan Manuel Santos y Rodrigo Londoño, el último comandante de las FARC-EP y actual presidente del Partido Comunes, conversan sobre la caída de ‘Alfonso Cano’, lo que significó para la guerrilla y las repercusiones en los incipientes diálogos de paz. \n\nPara conocer el anuncio sobre la operación Odiseo, les recomendamos esta alocución del presidente Juan Manuel Santos: https://bapp.com.co/documento/alocucion-del-presidente-santos-tras-la-caida-de-alfonso-cano/ \n\nTambién pueden leer el mensaje que el presidente Santos envió a las FARC, a través del facilitador Henry Acosta, después de la muerte de Cano: https://bapp.com.co/documento/carta-de-henry-acosta-a-pablo-catatumbo-mensaje-del-presidente-santos-a-las-farc-ep/, \n\n Y en este comunicado podrán encontrar la reacción de las FARC-EP: https://bapp.com.co/documento/comunicado-de-las-farc-ep-reconociendo-la-muerte-de-alfonso-cano/ ","duration":"PT11M16S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"La caída del penúltimo comandante de las FARC","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-10-16","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/la-ca%C3%ADda-del-pen%C3%BAltimo-comandante-de-las-farc/id1771334367?i=1000673256274","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/9c/4c/34/9c4c34b9-cd71-94a9-176d-55a936d3c49d/mza_3845986057889857917.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-09","description":"La única vez que la mesa de conversaciones con las FARC-EP se rompió formalmente, y los negociadores de la guerrilla estuvieron a punto de regresar a la selva colombiana, fue cuando se comenzó a hablar de dejación de armas durante la fase exploratoria. Un punto de honor para las FARC-EP y una línea roja para el gobierno. \n\nEn esta conversación, el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos y Sergio Jaramillo, Alto Comisionado de Paz en esa época, recuerdan detalles y anécdotas que no se conocen sobre los momentos de tensión durante la etapa secreta, cuando se hizo evidente la fragilidad de los diálogos.\n\nPara conocer más sobre la fase exploratoria de las negociaciones, les recomendamos este video “¿Cuál fue el origen de los diálogos de paz entre el Estado y las FARC-EP en 2012?” en: https://bapp.com.co/cual-fue-el-origen-de-los-dialogos-de-paz-entre-el-estado-y-las-farc-ep-en-2012/ y visitar la línea del tiempo en: https://bapp.com.co/fase-exploratoria/#fase-exploratoria \n\n\n\n\nComo bonus, les dejamos un documento histórico, el “Acta de la primera reunión entre el gobierno nacional y las FARC-EP” que pueden consultar en: https://bapp.com.co/documento/acta-primera-reunion-preparatoriaentre-delegados-del-gobierno-de-colombia-y-de-las-farc-ep/","duration":"PT22M10S","genre":["Gobierno"],"name":"Todo se derrumbó y el proceso no había empezado","offers":[{"@type":"Offer","category":"free","price":0}],"requiresSubscription":"no","uploadDate":"2024-10-09","url":"https://podcasts.apple.com/ve/podcast/todo-se-derrumb%C3%B3-y-el-proceso-no-hab%C3%ADa-empezado/id1771334367?i=1000672316637","thumbnailUrl":"https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/09/6e/81/096e81fd-a145-1c19-b996-1aa6c4b143f1/mza_17160007092607125468.jpg/1200x1200bf.webp"},{"@type":"AudioObject","datePublished":"2024-10-02","description":"El 02 de octubre de 2016, antes de las tres de la tarde, se conoció el resultado del plebiscito por la paz: 6.424.385 personas le dijeron NO al acuerdo de paz entre el gobierno y las FARC-EP. Detrás de ese resultado hubo todo tipo de desinformación, miedos, mentiras malintencionadas y un huracán en el Caribe, pero también muchas personas que genuinamente no apoyaban el Acuerdo. \n\nOcho años después, el expresidente Juan Manuel Santos y el escritor Ricardo Silva Romero se encontraron para hablar sobre el plebiscito, las campañas del Sí y del No, y lo que se vivió ese día, que fue de tusa para unos y de celebración para otros. \n\nPara que la plebitusa no los deprima, les recomendamos una dosis de esperanza recordando todas las manifestaciones ciudadanas a favor del Acuerdo. 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