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id="toc-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Massachusetts vandal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Yusuf" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Yusuf"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Yusuf</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Yusuf-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Plastic_Beach" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Plastic_Beach"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Plastic Beach</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Plastic_Beach-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Record_collector_vandal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Record_collector_vandal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Record collector vandal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Record_collector_vandal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Operation_Barbarossa" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Operation_Barbarossa"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Operation Barbarossa</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Operation_Barbarossa-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>4eva Is a Mighty Long Time</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-*sigh*" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#*sigh*"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>*sigh*</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-*sigh*-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Edit warring instead of discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lou_Reed" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lou_Reed"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Lou Reed</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Lou_Reed-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Check_out" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Check_out"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Check out</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Check_out-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Frenchie_Vandal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Frenchie_Vandal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Frenchie Vandal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Frenchie_Vandal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ANI_Experiences_survey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ANI_Experiences_survey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>ANI Experiences survey</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ANI_Experiences_survey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_Page_Reviewing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_Page_Reviewing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>New Page Reviewing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_Page_Reviewing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hndrxx" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hndrxx"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Hndrxx</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hndrxx-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Littlemixfan!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Littlemixfan!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Littlemixfan!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Littlemixfan!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_check_this_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_check_this_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Please check this article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Please_check_this_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_voting" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_voting"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_voting-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>User edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-User_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXL, December 2017</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Spanish_or_Basque_descent" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Spanish_or_Basque_descent"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Spanish or Basque descent</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Spanish_or_Basque_descent-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Doki" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Doki"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Doki</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Doki-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Melanie_C" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Melanie_C"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Melanie C</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Melanie_C-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removed_information" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Removed_information"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Removed information</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Removed_information-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reverting_category_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reverting_category_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Reverting category edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reverting_category_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Peter Rabbit (TV series)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Space_Rock" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Space_Rock"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Space Rock</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Space_Rock-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Regarding Shaher at Docufiction</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User_group_for_Military_Historians" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User_group_for_Military_Historians"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>User group for Military Historians</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-User_group_for_Military_Historians-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_war" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_war"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Edit war</span> 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Articles for Creation Reviewing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proyecto_Eskhata" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proyecto_Eskhata"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Proyecto Eskhata</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Proyecto_Eskhata-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> 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href="#Britpop_revival"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Britpop revival</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Britpop_revival-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#To_Pimp_a_Butterfly"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>To Pimp a Butterfly</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sweet_Caroline" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sweet_Caroline"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Sweet Caroline</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sweet_Caroline-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXLI, January 2018</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Guadalcanal_Campaign" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Guadalcanal_Campaign"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Guadalcanal Campaign</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Guadalcanal_Campaign-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Blanking_talk_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Blanking_talk_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Blanking talk pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Blanking_talk_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Possible_sock" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Possible_sock"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Possible sock</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Possible_sock-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Maurice Gibb's 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id="h-Composer_Emanuel_Leplin-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z"></span>Composer Emanuel Leplin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Composer_Emanuel_Leplin-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z-Composer_Emanuel_Leplin"></span>Hello again from your friend at Commons! I am so appreciative of the times you have helped when issues have popped up due to photographs. We have that again here with <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Leplin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Leplin</a> . Some of the following information is from Commons discussions about the pictures. The article was written by a son of the composer who also uploaded images. It's bannered with a very correct "too close to subject" header, but the citations are lengthy and valid. I am hoping that there is a process by which this article can be reviewed and that header removed. I acknowledge I don't do enough high-level en:wiki editing any more to confidently undertake this, and I looked for perhaps a working group, and then I realized that he was a composer - and thought of you. Again, thank you for all your help with Wikipedia and particularly the issues I bring you. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ellin_Beltz" title="User talk:Ellin Beltz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z-Composer_Emanuel_Leplin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z-Composer_Emanuel_Leplin"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z-Composer_Emanuel_Leplin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-01T16:26:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z"></span>I'm pretty sure I can check into this some time today. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-01T16:26:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 1 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-01T16:26:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-01T16:26:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2017-11-01T15:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lil_Pump" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lil_Pump-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lil_Pump-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Lil_Pump" title="Lil Pump">Lil Pump</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lil_Pump-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bapreme-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z-Lil_Pump"></span>The reason why I removed that paragraph is because it is already stated below in another section. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bapreme" title="User:Bapreme"><span style="background:black; color:brown; padding:2px;">BAP</span><span style="background:red; color:white; padding:2px;"><i>reme</i></span></a></b> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bapreme" title="User talk:Bapreme"><span style="color:red"><i>T</i></span></a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bapreme" title="Special:Contributions/Bapreme"><span style="color:red"><i>C</i></span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Bapreme-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z-Lil_Pump" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bapreme-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z-Lil_Pump"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bapreme-2017-11-02T11:13:00.000Z-Lil_Pump"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z"><span id="Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu.2C_music_subsection.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z"></span>Can I borrow some notability-fu, music subsection?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Four_Year_Strong" title="Four Year Strong"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?"></span>Four Year Strong</a> is now listed as <a href="/wiki/Worcester,_Massachusetts#Notable_people" title="Worcester, Massachusetts">Notable people</a> from <a href="/wiki/Worcester,_Massachusetts" title="Worcester, Massachusetts">Wormtown</a>. That looks a little...I dunno, overeaching? On the other hand, the whole section seems to be full of also-rans, <a href="/wiki/Robert_Goddard" class="mw-redirect" title="Robert Goddard">Robert Goddard</a> is the only pukka notable among them, and I can easily think of as many people who are far more notable. I see the sourcing, but it doesn't mean as much to me as maybe it should. <a href="/wiki/User:Anmccaff" title="User:Anmccaff">Anmccaff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anmccaff" title="User talk:Anmccaff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 6 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z-Can_I_borrow_some_notability-fu,_music_subsection?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z"></span>The bar is fairly low for lists of this sort. I'm pretty sure the guideline at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LISTPEOPLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LISTPEOPLE">WP:LISTPEOPLE</a> addresses the issue. Generally, you only need a Wikipedia page about you and you can be listed at articles where you have some relevance. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 6 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T01:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z"></span>that looks to me like if the section were filled with everyone meeting the same level of notabilty, it'd have at least a thousand people. Just unning through the major colleges I've prolly broke a hundred, and I'm not through...and those are just the live ones. But, say, when you are talking popular music, and <a href="/wiki/Four_Year_Strong" title="Four Year Strong">Four Year Strong</a> is listed, and <a href="/wiki/The_J._Geils_Band" title="The J. Geils Band">the J. Geils Band</a> ain't, that sends up a signal, even if he is dead now. <a href="/wiki/User:Anmccaff" title="User:Anmccaff">Anmccaff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anmccaff" title="User talk:Anmccaff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T03:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z"></span>Editors who are interested in list articles such as <a href="/wiki/List_of_people_from_Worcester,_Massachusetts" title="List of people from Worcester, Massachusetts">List of people from Worcester, Massachusetts</a>, may choose a tighter inclusion criteria. For instance, because of local consensus, <a href="/wiki/List_of_people_from_New_York_City" title="List of people from New York City">List of people from New York City</a> is not supposed to include people who <i>moved</i> there from somewhere else, while <a href="/wiki/List_of_people_from_Pittsburgh" title="List of people from Pittsburgh">List of people from Pittsburgh</a> includes anybody who lived there for a significant time. Perhaps the folks interested in Worcester can start a discussion about inclusion criteria. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 6 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:58:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z"></span>Well, I'd've expect the short list in the Worcester article to be tighter still, listing only very prominent people with a strong association, , and these guys like many of the others, just don't seem to have that prominence. Either that, or I'm completely out of touch with the music, which is quite likely. <a href="/wiki/User:Anmccaff" title="User:Anmccaff">Anmccaff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anmccaff" title="User talk:Anmccaff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:58:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:58:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anmccaff-2017-11-06T04:58:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-06T04:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX.2C_November_2017"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXXXIX, November 2017<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2017/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2017/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2017/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2017/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2017/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2017/Book reviews">Recent external reviews</a></i></li> <li>Op-ed: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2017/Op-ed" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2017/Op-ed">TomStar81 on late 1917 naval warfare</a></i></li> <li>Timeline: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2017/World_War_I_timeline" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2017/World War I timeline">This month in World War I</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Nick-D-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 7 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-2017-11-07T13:29:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXXXIX,_November_2017"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tabla" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tabla-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tabla-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z"></span>Tabla<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tabla-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z-Tabla"></span>Hi, just wanted to let you know that since 2012 an IP user from Hartford, CT, has been adding references to <a href="/wiki/Bongos" class="mw-redirect" title="Bongos">bongos</a> on the <a href="/wiki/Tabla" title="Tabla">tabla</a> article despite being repeatedly reverted (since bongos and tabla are not similar or related). He generally reverts again within 24 h. Is there anything that could be done? Protecting the page maybe? Let me know what you think, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Neodop" title="User:Neodop">Neodop</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neodop" title="User talk:Neodop">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z-Tabla" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z-Tabla"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z-Tabla"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-08T16:17:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z"></span>This guy also disrupts the bongo article in the same way, adding his unreferenced original research, which is wrong. Perhaps a rangeblock on <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:252:D27:DA20:0:0:0:0/64" title="Special:Contributions/2602:252:D27:DA20:0:0:0:0/64">Special:Contributions/2602:252:D27:DA20:0:0:0:0/64</a> might help, although other IPs such as <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/155.43.77.85" title="Special:Contributions/155.43.77.85">Special:Contributions/155.43.77.85</a> have been involved. In any case, I'll keep track along with you so we can keep down the nonsense. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-08T16:17:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 8 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-08T16:17:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-08T16:17:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-08T10:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse.2FCause_of_death_vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal" title="Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Cause of death vandal">Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Cause of death vandal</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal"></span>Hello Bink, you may be interested to know that the above has recently been making the same unsourced edits again under the following IP's <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:86.174.164.157&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:86.174.164.157 (page does not exist)">86.174.164.157</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:86.174.164.157" title="User talk:86.174.164.157">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.174.164.157" title="Special:Contributions/86.174.164.157">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/86.174.164.157" title="Special:DeletedContributions/86.174.164.157">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/86.174.164.157" title="Special:Log/86.174.164.157">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=86.174.164.157">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/86.174.164.157" title="Special:Block/86.174.164.157">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3A86.174.164.157">block log</a>)</span> and recently <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:86.174.165.34&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:86.174.165.34 (page does not exist)">86.174.165.34</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:86.174.165.34" title="User talk:86.174.165.34">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.174.165.34" title="Special:Contributions/86.174.165.34">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/86.174.165.34" title="Special:DeletedContributions/86.174.165.34">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/86.174.165.34" title="Special:Log/86.174.165.34">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=86.174.165.34">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/86.174.165.34" title="Special:Block/86.174.165.34">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3A86.174.165.34">block log</a>)</span>. They have now reached 3RR on the <a href="/wiki/Richard_Farnsworth" title="Richard Farnsworth">Richard Farnsworth</a> article. I have therefore reported them to the incidents page. Thought you would like to know, as you have previously been involved. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:David_J_Johnson" title="User:David J Johnson">David J Johnson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_J_Johnson" title="User talk:David J Johnson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 13 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Cause_of_death_vandal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-13T22:18:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span>Okay, thanks for the note. I'll keep an eye out. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-13T22:18:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 13 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-13T22:18:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-13T22:18:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2017-11-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proto-metal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proto-metal-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proto-metal-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Proto-metal" class="mw-redirect" title="Proto-metal">Proto-metal</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proto-metal-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z-Proto-metal"></span>Can we civilly discuss your issue with proto-metal? I don't think I "misunderstood" the sources, as one of the sources I provided listed it as a subgenre, as well as another one stating it is lo-fi and amateur compared to heavy metal and hard rock, and one saying that it was influenced by psychedelic rock. Proto-punk has it's own page with sources, even though it is very similar to garage rock stylistically, but has a different feel. This is the same case with proto-metal, sounds similar to hard rock and heavy metal, but has it's share of stylistic differences. Bands like Deep Purple, The Zoot, and Iron Claw are stylistically different from heavy metal bands like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath. Feel free to share your thoughts. <i><a href="/wiki/User:SuperLuigi22" title="User:SuperLuigi22">SuperLuigi22</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SuperLuigi22" title="User talk:SuperLuigi22">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22" title="Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z-Proto-metal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z-Proto-metal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z-Proto-metal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z"></span>Civil, sure. I read all the sources you provided and none of them say what you think they say. So it's hard to have a conversation about that. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span>I truly don't see what you mean. I read the sources, they don't say anything about it just being <a href="/wiki/Hard_rock" title="Hard rock">hard rock</a> except one, which I can admit that source was faulty. But all of the other ones that I read only describe it as it's own thing. Psychedelic rock and blues rock fused to make amateur, heavy, and distorted rock music. <i><a href="/wiki/User:SuperLuigi22" title="User:SuperLuigi22">SuperLuigi22</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SuperLuigi22" title="User talk:SuperLuigi22">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22" title="Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z"></span>This discussion should take place at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Heavy_metal_music" title="Talk:Heavy metal music">Talk:Heavy metal music</a> where it is already underway. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:43:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z"></span>Alright, I'll post my comments from your talk page on there. <i><a href="/wiki/User:SuperLuigi22" title="User:SuperLuigi22">SuperLuigi22</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SuperLuigi22" title="User talk:SuperLuigi22">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22" title="Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:43:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 15 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:43:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SuperLuigi22-2017-11-15T23:43:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-15T23:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span>Talk:The Center for Medical Progress sanctions notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice"></span>I was a bit surprised to see the sanctions notice commented out (you removed the commenting <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress&diff=810684742&oldid=810684436">[1]</a> here), so I went back through the history expecting to find an IP editor surreptitiously commenting it out, but I think it's even simpler than that. The headers were originally added <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress&diff=673898631&oldid=672888640">[2]</a> here and the notice was commented out when it was added, possibly to have it easily available if needed but not at first. I'm not familiar enough with the sanctions process to know if it takes an admin to formally put something under sanctions or if anyone can. I think that the article *should* have the notice, the past disruption is easily enough and the recent push should absolutely be enough. Not sure though. <a href="/wiki/User:Ravensfire" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ravensfire"><b style="color:darkred;">Ravensfire</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ravensfire" title="User talk:Ravensfire"><span style="color:black;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 16 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z-Talk:The_Center_for_Medical_Progress_sanctions_notice"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span>I did the same thing you did, after I "restored" the sanctions notice. Like you, I found that the commented-out sanctions notice was added in that form in the first few edits by an editor in good standing.</dd> <dd>Anyone can add the sanctions notice to an article which contains issues falling within the abortion topic. Such articles are already covered by the sanctions, but the template makes it explicit. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/G.I._Joe:_A_Real_American_Hero_(1985_TV_series)" class="mw-redirect" title="G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (1985 TV series)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:42:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z"></span>And now you know!</a> 'Perciate the info. <a href="/wiki/User:Ravensfire" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ravensfire"><b style="color:darkred;">Ravensfire</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ravensfire" title="User talk:Ravensfire"><span style="color:black;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:42:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 16 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:42:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ravensfire-2017-11-16T21:42:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-16T21:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse.2FMassachusetts_vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Massachusetts vandal (page does not exist)">Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Massachusetts vandal</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal"></span>I created another LTA casepage. Feel free if any improvements. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Destiny_Leo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Destiny Leo (page does not exist)">Destiny Leo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Destiny_Leo" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Destiny Leo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Massachusetts_vandal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z"></span>You might want to move the case page to reflect the fact that the involved IP addresses geolocate to <a href="/wiki/Waltham,_Massachusetts" title="Waltham, Massachusetts">Waltham, Massachusetts</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T05:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Whoops, sorry for mislocating. But the current IP returns and accuse Edgar181 to create an SPI report. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Edgar181&diff=prev&oldid=811214637">[3]</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Destiny_Leo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Destiny Leo (page does not exist)">Destiny Leo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Destiny_Leo" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Destiny Leo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T05:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z"></span>LTA case pages are handy for keeping track of individual vandals but they are supposed to be started only after the vandal has been blocked multiple times. Can you point to a block log or two to show that this has happened? Take a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse" title="Wikipedia:Long-term abuse">Wikipedia:Long-term abuse</a> to see what kinds of vandals deserve a case page. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-20T08:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z"></span>For that matter, can someone please provide an example of me vandalizing a page? Many users are calling me a vandal, but whenever I ask them to give me proof, they go silent. The page Destiny Leo made doesn't actually show that I have vandalized anything. I add genres to song pages, and they are sourced and later approved by other editors. This whole thing is beginning to feel like a witch hunt. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.64.152.58" title="Special:Contributions/129.64.152.58">129.64.152.58</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:129.64.152.58" title="User talk:129.64.152.58">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 2 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-20T15:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Yes, it's a real concern, with <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Destiny_Leo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Destiny Leo (page does not exist)">Destiny Leo</a> not having shown proof yet of previous blocks. I have to run off and do my job for a couple of days, but I'll check back and see what's going on when I have a chance. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 2 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z-129.64.152.58-2017-12-02T20:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-05T07:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for taking the time to look into this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.64.152.58" title="Special:Contributions/129.64.152.58">129.64.152.58</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:129.64.152.58" title="User talk:129.64.152.58">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-05T07:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 5 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-05T07:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.64.152.58-2017-12-05T07:01:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yusuf" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yusuf-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yusuf-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Yusuf<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yusuf-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z-Yusuf"></span>Hello there, you was reverted my edits on page <a href="/wiki/Yusuf" title="Yusuf">Yusuf</a>. Why? <b><a href="/wiki/User:HindWIKI" title="User:HindWIKI">HINDWIKI</a></b> • <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HindWIKI" title="User talk:HindWIKI"><span style="color:#035">CHAT</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z-Yusuf" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z-Yusuf"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:03:00.000Z-Yusuf"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for you work. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HindWIKI" title="User:HindWIKI">HINDWIKI</a></b> • <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HindWIKI" title="User talk:HindWIKI"><span style="color:#035">CHAT</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-21T16:40:00.000Z-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-21T16:40:00.000Z-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-21T16:40:00.000Z-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-21T16:40:00.000Z-HindWIKI-2017-11-21T13:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Plastic_Beach" data-mw-thread-id="h-Plastic_Beach-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Plastic_Beach-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Plastic_Beach" title="Plastic Beach">Plastic Beach</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Plastic_Beach-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z-Plastic_Beach"></span>It appears that Mrwallace05 is also editing as <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RobFeatherszzz" title="Special:Contributions/RobFeatherszzz">RobFeatherszzz</a>. For the time being, it's probably best to just keep an eye on it. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.164.202.73" title="Special:Contributions/115.164.202.73">115.164.202.73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.164.202.73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.164.202.73 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z-Plastic_Beach" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:03, 23 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z-Plastic_Beach"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z-Plastic_Beach"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z"></span>I reverted with its further revision, per <a href="/wiki/Talk:Plastic_Beach#socks" title="Talk:Plastic Beach">Talk:Plastic Beach#socks</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.164.50.41" title="Special:Contributions/115.164.50.41">115.164.50.41</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.164.50.41&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.164.50.41 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 24 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z-115.164.202.73-2017-11-23T11:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-24T17:22:00.000Z-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z"></span>But non-admin user is continuing to change genres without discussion or sources when saying "generalizing genres". <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plastic_Beach&diff=811561405&oldid=811391385">[4]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plastic_Beach&diff=811852689&oldid=811823150">[5]</a></s> Already reverted. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Destiny_Leo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Destiny Leo (page does not exist)">Destiny Leo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Destiny_Leo" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Destiny Leo">talk</a>) 17:22, 24 November 2017 (UTC) (Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Destiny_Leo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Destiny Leo (page does not exist)">Destiny Leo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Destiny_Leo" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Destiny Leo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-24T17:22:00.000Z-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 25 November 2017 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-24T17:22:00.000Z-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Destiny_Leo-2017-11-24T17:22:00.000Z-115.164.50.41-2017-11-24T06:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Record_collector_vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Record_collector_vandal-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Record_collector_vandal-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z"></span>Record collector vandal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Record_collector_vandal-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z-Record_collector_vandal"></span>Hi, just letting you know of an IP vandal that keeps adding himself to <a href="/wiki/List_of_record_collectors" title="List of record collectors">List of record collectors</a> (now with fake refs taken from other parts of the article, how clever), been doing so for over a year, and he keeps undoing my reverts. <a href="/wiki/User:Neodop" title="User:Neodop">Neodop</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neodop" title="User talk:Neodop">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z-Record_collector_vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 24 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z-Record_collector_vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z-Record_collector_vandal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-25T22:43:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z"></span>I watchlisted the article, so I can help watch for this guy. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-25T22:43:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:43, 25 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-25T22:43:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-25T22:43:00.000Z-Neodop-2017-11-24T23:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Operation_Barbarossa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Operation_Barbarossa"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Operation_Barbarossa"></span><a href="/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa" title="Operation Barbarossa">Operation Barbarossa</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Operation_Barbarossa"></span></h2></div> <p>Would you mind discussing this issue of floods on the Talk: my edits are based on RS. Where are any source to justify floods as the most important reason? </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time" data-mw-thread-id="h-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time" title="4eva Is a Mighty Long Time">4eva Is a Mighty Long Time</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time"></span>An editor add this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time&type=revision&diff=812220559&oldid=810849200">genre</a> in the article, do the source explicitly stated it's Southern hip hop? <a href="/wiki/User:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User:TheAmazingPeanuts">TheAmazingPeanuts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 26 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z-4eva_Is_a_Mighty_Long_Time"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z"></span>It certainly says that <a href="/wiki/Big_K.R.I.T." title="Big K.R.I.T.">Big K.R.I.T.</a>'s genre is Southern hip hop, explicitly. If you give some leeway to the source's wording – if you allow for some reading comprehension-based interpretation – it's also saying that the first half of the album is Southern hip hop, while the second half is more introspective. So I wouldn't rush to remove that genre. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 26 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T12:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T14:08:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z"></span>I did read the source, I just wanna hear a second opinion on it to make sure it's correctly says it is. If the source explicitly stated it's a Southern hip hop album, I will not remove it. <a href="/wiki/User:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User:TheAmazingPeanuts">TheAmazingPeanuts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T14:08:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 26 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T14:08:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-11-26T14:08:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-11-26T19:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="*sigh*" data-mw-thread-id="h-*sigh*-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z"><span id=".2Asigh.2A"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-*sigh*-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z"></span>*sigh*<span data-mw-comment-end="h-*sigh*-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shearonink-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z-*sigh*"></span>Yeah, so, again, I am done with the TJ article. I don't disagree with your edits and would love to collaborate on the article but judging from some of the edit summaries the atmosphere around editing it is not what I come to Wikipedia for. Good luck. <a href="/wiki/User:Shearonink" title="User:Shearonink">Shearonink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shearonink" title="User talk:Shearonink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Shearonink-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z-*sigh*" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 27 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shearonink-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z-*sigh*"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shearonink-2017-11-27T23:45:00.000Z-*sigh*"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z"></span>Edit warring instead of discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Stop icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson" title="Thomas Jefferson">Thomas Jefferson</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a>. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Please discuss any difference of opinion on the Jefferson talk page, rather than perpetuating edit wars. Nothing but the facts were added. Also, please do not continue to make reverts out of ignorance. You thought DNA evidence only pointed to Thomas, and not any of his male relatives. This is a major oversight. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gwillhickers" title="User:Gwillhickers"><i>Gwillhickers</i></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gwillhickers" title="User talk:Gwillhickers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z-Edit_warring_instead_of_discussion"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T01:36:00.000Z-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z"></span>You woefully misrepresent my thoughts. And you know perfectly well the kind of brinksmanship reversions you were performing. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T01:36:00.000Z-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T01:36:00.000Z-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T01:36:00.000Z-Gwillhickers-2017-11-28T00:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lou_Reed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lou_Reed-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lou_Reed-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z"></span>Lou Reed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lou_Reed-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z-Lou_Reed"></span>Hi there, why the re-edits of the <a href="/wiki/Lou_Reed" title="Lou Reed">Lou Reed</a> article? Did you bother to note that the "descent into drug addiction for the rest of his career" was 100% in-accurate? That's why I changed it to provide actual context to what the man did between 1972 - 1989 in that specific paragraph. Feel free to re-insert my edits in there, unless you can come up with something better then needlessly hitting a 'delete' button. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/173.30.181.164" title="Special:Contributions/173.30.181.164">173.30.181.164</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:173.30.181.164#top" title="User talk:173.30.181.164">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z-Lou_Reed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z-Lou_Reed"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z-Lou_Reed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T03:47:00.000Z-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z"></span>I looked at your wording and found it unencyclopedic: you mispelled words and introduced links to the wrong stuff such as <a href="/wiki/Transformer" title="Transformer">Transformer</a> and <a href="/wiki/Berlin" title="Berlin">Berlin</a> which are supposed to be albums. You didn't use italics on the album names nor did you put quotes around song names. You used two <a href="/wiki/Grocer%27s_apostrophe" class="mw-redirect" title="Grocer's apostrophe">grocer's apostrophes</a> where they don't belong. You put poor grammar into your version of the "descent" sentence. I don't think you're cut out for writing the encyclopedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T03:47:00.000Z-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T03:47:00.000Z-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T03:47:00.000Z-173.30.181.164-2017-11-28T03:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Check_out" data-mw-thread-id="h-Check_out-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Check_out-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span>Check out<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Check_out-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z-Check_out"></span>Bink, as I watched this <a href="/wiki/Score_(2016_film)" class="mw-redirect" title="Score (2016 film)">film</a> on a flight to LAX today, I thought of you. Shirley you've seen it! In which case, please review my edits – and make improvements! – <a href="/wiki/User:Srich32977" title="User:Srich32977">S. Rich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Srich32977" title="User talk:Srich32977">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z-Check_out" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z-Check_out"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z-Check_out"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T06:56:00.000Z-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span>You're right, I want to see this film! I already have the article on my watchlist. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T06:56:00.000Z-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T06:56:00.000Z-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T06:56:00.000Z-Srich32977-2017-11-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Frenchie_Vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Frenchie_Vandal-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Frenchie_Vandal-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z"></span>Frenchie Vandal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Frenchie_Vandal-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z-Frenchie_Vandal"></span>Hey there! Are you sure about 82.132.240.33? Seems to not fit any of the MOs nor subject material. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:JesseRafe" title="User:JesseRafe">JesseRafe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JesseRafe" title="User talk:JesseRafe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z-Frenchie_Vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z-Frenchie_Vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z-Frenchie_Vandal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T15:51:00.000Z-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z"></span>You're right, it's not Frenchie. Instead, it's from a group that I have been tracking as <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet/Kent_IPs" title="User:Binksternet/Kent IPs">'Kent IPs'</a>. I will move the entry. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T15:51:00.000Z-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T15:51:00.000Z-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-11-28T15:51:00.000Z-JesseRafe-2017-11-28T14:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_Experiences_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_Experiences_survey-2017-12-01T18:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_Experiences_survey-2017-12-01T18:24:00.000Z"></span>ANI Experiences survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_Experiences_survey-2017-12-01T18:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PEarley_(WMF)-2017-12-01T18:24:00.000Z-ANI_Experiences_survey"></span>The Wikimedia Foundation Community health initiative (led by the Safety and Support and Anti-Harassment Tools team) is conducting a survey for en.wikipedia contributors on their experience and satisfaction level with the Administrator’s Noticeboard/Incidents. 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Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but <u>it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines</u>; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol">the tutorial</a> before making your decision. Thanks. — <i><b><small><a href="/wiki/User:Insertcleverphrasehere" title="User:Insertcleverphrasehere">Insertcleverphrasehere</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Insertcleverphrasehere" title="User talk:Insertcleverphrasehere">or here</a>)</sup></small></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z-New_Page_Reviewing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z-New_Page_Reviewing"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z-New_Page_Reviewing"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T06:18:00.000Z-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the offer. It looks like a lot of work, which would have the effect of shifting my focus some undetermined degree away from maintaining articles that are already in place, articles that are in my areas of interest. But I will consider the proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T06:18:00.000Z-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:18, 2 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T06:18:00.000Z-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T06:18:00.000Z-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-01T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hndrxx" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hndrxx-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hndrxx-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Hndrxx" title="Hndrxx">Hndrxx</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hndrxx-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z-Hndrxx"></span>An editor add this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hndrxx&type=revision&diff=813287855&oldid=812900521">genre</a> in the article, while the source did say New Jack Swing, but I don't know the source explicitly states the album is that genre. What your opinion on it? <a href="/wiki/User:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User:TheAmazingPeanuts">TheAmazingPeanuts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z-Hndrxx" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 2 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z-Hndrxx"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z-Hndrxx"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z"></span>The source says the album is "new jack soul" which is not one of our genres with an article. The source also says the album is trap swing. At any rate, the infobox is for genres that are generally true, while specific details should be placed in the article body as prose. If the album is not widely called a new jack swing album then we can assume the source is an outlier. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 2 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T16:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z"></span>I take the genre is acceptable, as long the genre is sourced. <a href="/wiki/User:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User:TheAmazingPeanuts">TheAmazingPeanuts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 2 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-02T22:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-03T20:38:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z"></span>Yes, that's usually true. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-03T20:38:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 3 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-03T20:38:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-03T20:38:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-12-02T18:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, Binksternet. 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Please have a look and respond there. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/183.171.181.3" title="Special:Contributions/183.171.181.3">183.171.181.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:183.171.181.3" title="User talk:183.171.181.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Littlemixfan!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 4 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Littlemixfan!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Littlemixfan!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-04T19:48:00.000Z-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z"></span>Looking... <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-04T19:48:00.000Z-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 4 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-04T19:48:00.000Z-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-04T19:48:00.000Z-183.171.181.3-2017-12-04T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_check_this_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_check_this_article-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_check_this_article-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z"></span>Please check this article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_check_this_article-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Srich32977-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z-Please_check_this_article"></span>I've done some editing on <a href="/wiki/Darlene_Koldenhoven" title="Darlene Koldenhoven">Darlene Koldenhoven</a>, but you're the go-to-guy for these topics. Thanks (and best regards). – <a href="/wiki/User:Srich32977" title="User:Srich32977">S. Rich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Srich32977" title="User talk:Srich32977">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Srich32977-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z-Please_check_this_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Srich32977-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z-Please_check_this_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Srich32977-2017-12-05T06:47:00.000Z-Please_check_this_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_voting" data-mw-thread-id="h-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z"></span>2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot"></span>As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards#"Military_historian_of_the_Year"" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards">Military Historian of the Year</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards#"Military_history_Newcomer_of_the_Year"" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards">Military History Newcomer of the Year</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators">co-ordinators</a> invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Nominations_for_military_historian_of_the_year_for_2017_now_open!" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history">here</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Nominations_for_military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_for_2017_now_open!" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history">here</a>. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-08T08:35:00.000Z-2017_Military_Historian_of_the_Year_and_Newcomer_of_the_Year_nominations_and_vot"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_edits-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_edits-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z"></span>User edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_edits-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z-User_edits"></span>Would you have a moment to look at the edits of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2604:2000:98C4:8C00:14D:8D3B:B9B7:AC12">this user</a>. You are very good at identifying appropriate edits to music articles. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Magnolia677" title="User:Magnolia677">Magnolia677</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnolia677" title="User talk:Magnolia677">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z-User_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 9 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z-User_edits"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z-User_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-09T14:18:00.000Z-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z"></span>It's really <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2604:2000:98C4:8C00:0:0:0:0/64" title="Special:Contributions/2604:2000:98C4:8C00:0:0:0:0/64">Special:Contributions/2604:2000:98C4:8C00:0:0:0:0/64</a>, which is a range of IPs in Queens, New York, with activity going back to October 2016. This person has received numerous warnings about adding unreferenced stuff, but as far as I know, they have not communicated back. Among the warnings are some from you: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:C4E4:FFC2:34F2:9F2A" title="User talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:C4E4:FFC2:34F2:9F2A">this one</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:FCFA:6698:DAF2:14DA" title="User talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:FCFA:6698:DAF2:14DA">this one</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User_talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:89EE:216F:A1E2:C6E" title="User talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:89EE:216F:A1E2:C6E">this one</a>, all from February, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:975:6BE:A26:B576" title="User talk:2604:2000:98C4:8C00:975:6BE:A26:B576">and this one from March</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Materialscientist" title="User:Materialscientist">Materialscientist</a> blocked this user in March.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2604%3A2000%3A98C4%3A8C00%3AA592%3AD80F%3A77B8%3A918C">[6]</a></dd> <dd>Some of what they add to articles is verifiable, but a lot is not. That's the problem we all have with this user. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-09T14:18:00.000Z-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 9 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-09T14:18:00.000Z-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-09T14:18:00.000Z-Magnolia677-2017-12-09T12:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL.2C_December_2017"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXL, December 2017<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/December_2017/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/December 2017/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/December_2017/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/December 2017/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/December_2017/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/December 2017/Book reviews">Recent external reviews</a></i></li> <li>Op-ed: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/December_2017/Op-ed" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/December 2017/Op-ed">TomStar81 on the Halifax Explosion of 1917</a></i></li> <li>Timeline: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/December_2017/World_War_I_timeline" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/December 2017/World War I timeline">This month in World War I</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Nick-D-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 10 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-2017-12-10T11:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXL,_December_2017"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spanish_or_Basque_descent" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spanish_or_Basque_descent-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spanish_or_Basque_descent-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Spanish or Basque descent<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spanish_or_Basque_descent-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z-Spanish_or_Basque_descent"></span>I noticed an IP user replaced Basque with Spanish across several articles. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.167.129.54" title="Special:Contributions/89.167.129.54">Special:Contributions/89.167.129.54</a> I see you undid the edit on <a href="/wiki/Berryessa,_San_Jose" title="Berryessa, San Jose">Berryessa, San Jose</a>. I have no idea what Wikipedia policy is on this topic is, but the IP edits seem "motivated" to me. I also brought the issue up here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment" title="Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment">Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Knulclunk" title="User:Knulclunk">Knulclunk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knulclunk" title="User talk:Knulclunk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z-Spanish_or_Basque_descent" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 11 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z-Spanish_or_Basque_descent"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z-Spanish_or_Basque_descent"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-11T21:40:00.000Z-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Okay, thanks. Discussion is always good. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-11T21:40:00.000Z-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-11T21:40:00.000Z-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-11T21:40:00.000Z-Knulclunk-2017-12-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Doki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Doki-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Doki-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Doki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Doki-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z-Doki"></span>Hi B, I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doki_(TV_series)&diff=815072859&oldid=815070619">restored</a> some of the content you reverted at <a href="/wiki/Doki_(TV_series)" title="Doki (TV series)">Doki</a>. It's definitely not a commentary on your reversion. I was cleaning up some of the cruddy grammar and had an edit conflict with you. Since I was able to verify one or two of the entries, (Zeke is an armadillo who flies a hot-air balloon and Sticks Bamberg is a character whose name is voiced clearly by one of the other characters) I'm left with the impression that the content was submitted in good faith, even if I haven't been able to vet it all. I may protect the article just to get that kid to start talking. It's certainly not cool to have to keep cleaning up his grammar. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z-Doki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z-Doki"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z-Doki"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Okay, thanks. Glad you're on it. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 12 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z"></span>I do note that the submitting IP has been problematic for quite a while. I don't know what to make of crap like <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doki_(TV_series)&diff=814017078&oldid=814015199">this</a> where we're to believe that characters from this Discovery Kids series appears in a Nelvana series playing Nintendo characters? I mean, maybe that's possible, but it seems like it would be a licensing nightmare. Anyway, short story, I still think we should be circumspect about that user. <a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 12 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:38:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Yes, the user is problematic, with lots of unreferenced and dubious stuff added, and like a stopped clock, sometimes hits the mark correctly. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:38:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 12 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:38:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-12T16:38:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2017-12-12T16:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Melanie_C" data-mw-thread-id="h-Melanie_C-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Melanie_C-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z"></span>Melanie C<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Melanie_C-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z-Melanie_C"></span>Hello. I have included all information provided by sources, and the image and audio files are already on wikipedia, as you can check. I ask you to restore, or not to cancel. You can verify that what I say is really like this---<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/188.135.196.244" title="Special:Contributions/188.135.196.244">188.135.196.244</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:188.135.196.244" title="User talk:188.135.196.244">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z-Melanie_C" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z-Melanie_C"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z-Melanie_C"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-13T00:56:00.000Z-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z"></span>"Already on Wikipedia" is not enough. Each non-free file must have a specific rationale for it to be use in every single article where it appears. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-13T00:56:00.000Z-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-13T00:56:00.000Z-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-13T00:56:00.000Z-188.135.196.244-2017-12-13T00:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removed_information" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removed_information-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removed_information-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z"></span>Removed information<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removed_information-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z-Removed_information"></span>This is not intended to be an offensive question, but could you please explain to me why you removed large sections from the article <a href="/wiki/Creation_science" title="Creation science">Creation science</a>? Just curious.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.223.163.36" title="Special:Contributions/73.223.163.36">73.223.163.36</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:73.223.163.36&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:73.223.163.36 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z-Removed_information" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 15 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z-Removed_information"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z-Removed_information"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-15T01:13:00.000Z-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z"></span>The text was not neutral. The text set up a false equivalence between evolution and creationism, between science and religion. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-15T01:13:00.000Z-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-15T01:13:00.000Z-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-15T01:13:00.000Z-73.223.163.36-2017-12-15T01:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverting_category_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverting_category_edits-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverting_category_edits-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Reverting category edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverting_category_edits-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z-Reverting_category_edits"></span>I cannot understand why you reverted my percussion categories, because I owuldn't add them if certain drummers don't play them, so please don't assume that I'm intending to vandalize or making destructive edits. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/61.69.217.3" title="Special:Contributions/61.69.217.3">61.69.217.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:61.69.217.3" title="User talk:61.69.217.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z-Reverting_category_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z-Reverting_category_edits"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z-Reverting_category_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-17T23:18:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Did you read the guideline at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATDEF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATDEF">WP:CATDEF</a>? That's where it explains how categories must be definitive. If a drummer is famous for sitting behind a rock drum kit then they are in the category of drummer. If that drummer sometimes plays congas or other percussion, they are not in the category of conga player or percussionist because that's not what defines them. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-17T23:18:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 17 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-17T23:18:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-17T23:18:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2017-12-17T21:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z"><span id="Peter_Rabbit_.28TV_series.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z"></span>Peter Rabbit (TV series)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArchAngelAvenger-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)"></span>Whoever did the edit before my last one did something similar and that was left untouched, so I assumed it would be fine. I see that I was wrong. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ArchAngelAvenger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ArchAngelAvenger (page does not exist)">ArchAngelAvenger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArchAngelAvenger" title="User talk:ArchAngelAvenger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-ArchAngelAvenger-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArchAngelAvenger-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArchAngelAvenger-2017-12-18T02:40:00.000Z-Peter_Rabbit_(TV_series)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Space_Rock" data-mw-thread-id="h-Space_Rock-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Space_Rock-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z"></span>Space Rock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Space_Rock-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z-Space_Rock"></span>Not sure why you felt the 21st century info in the intro paragraph on the space rock page mentioning the resurgence of the term only belongs further down in the 21C section? It had been in that intro paragraph for a couple years til someone took it and a bunch of other info out of the intro and the article in 2016. Happy to hear what you have to say before adding it back in again - at present, doesn't seem to make sense that the genre's intro would end with the 20th century. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HaroldPalmer2000&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HaroldPalmer2000 (page does not exist)">HaroldPalmer2000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HaroldPalmer2000#top" title="User talk:HaroldPalmer2000">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HaroldPalmer2000" title="Special:Contributions/HaroldPalmer2000">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z-Space_Rock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z-Space_Rock"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z-Space_Rock"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-19T05:56:00.000Z-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z"></span>You wrote that the <a href="/wiki/Space_rock" title="Space rock">space rock</a> "term was revived in the 21st century to refer to a new crop of groups..." but none of the sources say this. Instead, the three sources each describe one band as a space rock band. So you have <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SYNTH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SYNTH">synthesized s conclusion</a> which was assembled from A+B+C. The conclusion is your own, not supported by the literature. So I determined that these new details should be removed from the lead section and repositioned down into the article body, with your synthesized conclusion removed. According to the guideline at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LEAD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LEAD">WP:LEAD</a>, the lead section should be a summary of the article body. The lead section is not the first place to stick new details. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-19T05:56:00.000Z-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 19 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-19T05:56:00.000Z-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-19T05:56:00.000Z-HaroldPalmer2000-2017-12-19T05:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spcranger-2017-12-20T23:51:00.000Z-Space_Rock"></span>That makes sense, thanks for explaining. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Spcranger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Spcranger (page does not exist)">Spcranger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spcranger#top" title="User talk:Spcranger">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spcranger" title="Special:Contributions/Spcranger">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Spcranger-2017-12-20T23:51:00.000Z-Space_Rock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 20 December 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spcranger-2017-12-20T23:51:00.000Z-Space_Rock"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spcranger-2017-12-20T23:51:00.000Z-Space_Rock"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z"></span>Regarding Shaher at Docufiction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span>Hi Only reverted once. also Shaher won the Best narration award at DIFF (Delhi International film festival.) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/45.118.158.60" title="Special:Contributions/45.118.158.60">45.118.158.60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:45.118.158.60" title="User talk:45.118.158.60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-20T07:34:00.000Z-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z"></span>Best narration? I cannot find anything about such an award. The DIFF website says nothing about an award for narration. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.delhiinternationalfilmfestival.com/indian-showcase/shehar/">This page about <i>Shaher</i> at DIFF</a> doesn't say the film won any award. And they spell it wrong: <i>Shehar</i>. You will need to find proof that the film has received an award. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-20T07:34:00.000Z-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 20 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-20T07:34:00.000Z-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-20T07:34:00.000Z-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T07:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T11:20:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span>Yes I did notice that, will update as soon they post the link. There isnt many Docufiction films coming from India, and as the film was competing with films from Iran and other Asian films and having won, I thought that was significant. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/45.118.158.60" title="Special:Contributions/45.118.158.60">45.118.158.60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:45.118.158.60#top" title="User talk:45.118.158.60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T11:20:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 20 December 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T11:20:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-20T11:20:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-21T15:45:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span>Shaher is a Hindi word and so sometimes written both ways as Shaher or Shehar. </p> <pre>-BEST NARRATION | SHEHAR| FF | RAJIV MUDGAL |INDIA </pre> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/ram.parcha/posts/10155945371229817">https://www.facebook.com/ram.parcha/posts/10155945371229817</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://scontent.fdel8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498293_10155945369164817_6098938405638647310_n.jpg?oh=e564079366886b0004c2f2ddba2964f9&oe=5AFE9AC3">https://scontent.fdel8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498293_10155945369164817_6098938405638647310_n.jpg?oh=e564079366886b0004c2f2ddba2964f9&oe=5AFE9AC3</a> I hope that helps. </p> <dl><dd>The photo doesn't help me because I don't recognize the people, but the Facebook post is a start. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-21T15:45:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 21 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-21T15:45:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-21T15:45:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-21T15:58:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span>Just found out that it was selected from thousands of films to be showcased at EFF BRICS Moscow <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://echofestbrics.com/docs/FeatureFilms.pdf">http://echofestbrics.com/docs/FeatureFilms.pdf</a> There was some writeup too but couldn't trace it. I will leave it to your judgement. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/45.118.158.60" title="Special:Contributions/45.118.158.60">45.118.158.60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:45.118.158.60#top" title="User talk:45.118.158.60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-21T15:58:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-21T15:58:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-45.118.158.60-2017-12-21T15:58:00.000Z-Regarding_Shaher_at_Docufiction"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_group_for_Military_Historians" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_group_for_Military_Historians-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_group_for_Military_Historians-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z"></span>User group for Military Historians<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_group_for_Military_Historians-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z-User_group_for_Military_Historians"></span>Greetings, </p><p>"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Discussion_to_incubate_a_user_group_for_Wikipedia_Military_Historians" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians">Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z-User_group_for_Military_Historians" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z-User_group_for_Military_Historians"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-21T11:29:00.000Z-User_group_for_Military_Historians"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_war" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_war-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_war-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Edit war<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_war-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z-Edit_war"></span>You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on GoldenEye. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. </p><p>Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: </p><p>Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.148.42.186" title="Special:Contributions/5.148.42.186">5.148.42.186</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:5.148.42.186" title="User talk:5.148.42.186">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z-Edit_war" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 23 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z-Edit_war"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z-Edit_war"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z"></span>It takes two to tango. Neither of you have tried to discuss the issue, as far as I can tell. Both of you are just reverting each other, which amounts to an edit war even though neither of you have crossed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">WP:3RR</a> yet. If this goes on, admin intervention may become necessary to stop that edit war. Please don't let it come to that. I'll leave a similar note on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:5.148.42.186" title="User talk:5.148.42.186">User talk:5.148.42.186</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Huon" title="User:Huon">Huon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huon" title="User talk:Huon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 23 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z-5.148.42.186-2017-12-23T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T20:35:00.000Z-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z"></span>I threw a few comments into some of the talk pages just now (<a href="/wiki/Talk:GoldenEye" title="Talk:GoldenEye">Talk:GoldenEye</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Shirley_Bassey" title="Talk:Shirley Bassey">Talk:Shirley Bassey</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Rock_Profile" title="Talk:Rock Profile">Talk:Rock Profile</a>), but my overarching concern is that this IP editor is evading a block. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T20:35:00.000Z-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T20:35:00.000Z-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T20:35:00.000Z-Huon-2017-12-23T19:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seasons'_Greetings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seasons'_Greetings-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z"><span id="Seasons.27_Greetings"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seasons'_Greetings-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z"></span>Seasons' Greetings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seasons'_Greetings-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z-Seasons'_Greetings"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:The_Great_White_North.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/The_Great_White_North.jpg/100px-The_Great_White_North.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="133" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/The_Great_White_North.jpg/150px-The_Great_White_North.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/The_Great_White_North.jpg/200px-The_Great_White_North.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1536" data-file-height="2048"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>...to you and yours, from the Great White North! <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">FWiW Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z-Seasons'_Greetings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 23 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z-Seasons'_Greetings"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z-Seasons'_Greetings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T18:01:00.000Z-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z"></span>Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T18:01:00.000Z-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T18:01:00.000Z-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-23T18:01:00.000Z-Bzuk-2017-12-23T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z"></span>Mislabeled on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:123.136.112.133" title="User talk:123.136.112.133">User talk:123.136.112.133</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133"></span>it is still mislabeled as a sockpuppet. The user is actually from Malaysia, not from UK. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/123.136.118.104" title="Special:Contributions/123.136.118.104">123.136.118.104</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:123.136.118.104&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:123.136.118.104 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 26 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z-Mislabeled_on_User_talk:123.136.112.133"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-26T15:23:00.000Z-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b>. Got it! <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-26T15:23:00.000Z-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 26 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-26T15:23:00.000Z-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-26T15:23:00.000Z-123.136.118.104-2017-12-26T11:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z"></span>Articles for Creation Reviewing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background:#E6FFE6; border:1px solid #000080; padding: 10px; width: auto"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="position:relative; right:6px"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:AFC-Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AFC-Logo.svg/110px-AFC-Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="110" height="110" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AFC-Logo.svg/165px-AFC-Logo.svg.png 1.5x, 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abbr{color:var(--color-base)!important}}@media print{.mw-parser-output .navbar{display:none!important}}</style><div class="navbar plainlinks hlist navbar-mini"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:AfC_status/original" title="Template:AfC status/original"><abbr title="View this template">v</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:AfC_status/original" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:AfC status/original"><abbr title="Discuss this template">t</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:AfC_status/original" title="Special:EditPage/Template:AfC status/original"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div></td> </tr></tbody></table> <p>I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation">AfC</a>, <u>which is also extremely backlogged.</u> <br/> <b>Would you please consider becoming an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants">Articles for Creation reviewer</a>?</b> Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but <u>it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia inclusion policies and guidelines</u>; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants#Requests" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants">requesting to be added to the project</a>, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions">the reviewing instructions</a> before making your decision. Thanks. — <i><b><small><a href="/wiki/User:Insertcleverphrasehere" title="User:Insertcleverphrasehere">Insertcleverphrasehere</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Insertcleverphrasehere" title="User talk:Insertcleverphrasehere">or here</a>)</sup></small></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2017-12-29T03:01:00.000Z-Articles_for_Creation_Reviewing"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proyecto_Eskhata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proyecto_Eskhata-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proyecto_Eskhata-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z"></span>Proyecto Eskhata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proyecto_Eskhata-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheRealBoognish-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z-Proyecto_Eskhata"></span>Not promoting. Yes, they are important, in diversifying the sound. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:TheRealBoognish" title="User:TheRealBoognish">TheRealBoognish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheRealBoognish#top" title="User talk:TheRealBoognish">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheRealBoognish" title="Special:Contributions/TheRealBoognish">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-TheRealBoognish-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z-Proyecto_Eskhata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:07, 29 December 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheRealBoognish-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z-Proyecto_Eskhata"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheRealBoognish-2017-12-29T08:07:00.000Z-Proyecto_Eskhata"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Tay-K" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tay-K-Proyecto_Eskhata-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tay-K-Proyecto_Eskhata-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z"></span>Tay-K<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tay-K-Proyecto_Eskhata-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z-Tay-K"></span>Those remixes I added that were made to his trac The Race made by those guys. They're on YouTube, and have even been talked about by XXL. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Grinchnight14&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Grinchnight14 (page does not exist)">Grinchnight14</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grinchnight14#top" title="User talk:Grinchnight14">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grinchnight14" title="Special:Contributions/Grinchnight14">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z-Tay-K" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z-Tay-K"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z-Tay-K"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-30T21:51:00.000Z-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z"></span>The XXL source should be cited, then. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2017-12-30T21:51:00.000Z-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 30 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2017-12-30T21:51:00.000Z-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2017-12-30T21:51:00.000Z-Grinchnight14-2017-12-30T21:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Edits on Led Zeppelin songs article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article"></span>I want to know why you are reverting my edits to Led Zeppelin song articles in regards to John Bonham's percussion playing? A ching-ring (a tambourine that is often mounted on a hi-hat stand) is clearly audible on "Moby Dick" and a gong can be heard on "What is and What Should Never Be", both obviously by Bonham and maracas appear to be audible on "Custard Pie" in unison with the hi-hats.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/61.69.217.3" title="Special:Contributions/61.69.217.3">61.69.217.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:61.69.217.3" title="User talk:61.69.217.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z-Edits_on_Led_Zeppelin_songs_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-05T16:05:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span>You are listening to the song and writing down what you hear, as expressed in your edit summaries. Wikipedia is built on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SECONDARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SECONDARY">WP:SECONDARY</a> sources, which means that your own findings are not supposed to be in the encyclopedia. On your talk page, I directed you to read the instructions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">WP:No original research</a>, which is a hard policy, not negotiable. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-05T16:05:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-05T16:05:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-05T16:05:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Britpop_revival" data-mw-thread-id="h-Britpop_revival-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Britpop_revival-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Britpop_revival" class="mw-redirect" title="Britpop revival">Britpop revival</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Britpop_revival-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z-Britpop_revival"></span>Do you think this article should be deleted? This could easily be added to the <a href="/wiki/Britpop" title="Britpop">Britpop</a> article and is very similar to the already good article <a href="/wiki/Post-Britpop" title="Post-Britpop">post-Britpop</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/User:SuperLuigi22" title="User:SuperLuigi22">SuperLuigi22</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SuperLuigi22" title="User talk:SuperLuigi22">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22" title="Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z-Britpop_revival" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 6 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z-Britpop_revival"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z-Britpop_revival"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-06T06:01:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Yes, nominated for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-06T06:01:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-06T06:01:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-06T06:01:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="To_Pimp_a_Butterfly" data-mw-thread-id="h-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/To_Pimp_a_Butterfly" title="To Pimp a Butterfly">To Pimp a Butterfly</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly"></span>An editor made this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=To_Pimp_a_Butterfly&type=revision&diff=819164880&oldid=819090658">edit</a> with a source, should it stay that way since the source says: <i>This bizarre and supposedly "challenging" album was universally acclaimed and, apparently, unimpeachable.</i> What do you think of it? <a href="/wiki/User:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User:TheAmazingPeanuts">TheAmazingPeanuts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAmazingPeanuts" title="User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z-To_Pimp_a_Butterfly"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T01:53:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span>The IP editor is cherry-picking the best few words from the review, which mainly focuses on how the album is difficult listening, not enjoyable. The IP editor is misrepresenting the source. Your removal was appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T01:53:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T01:53:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T01:53:00.000Z-TheAmazingPeanuts-2017-01-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sweet_Caroline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sweet_Caroline-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sweet_Caroline-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z"></span>Sweet Caroline<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sweet_Caroline-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline"></span>I am perplexed that you keep reverting this page back to an incorrect date of June 1969 for this release....The song was OFFICIALLY released by Diamond's label on September 16th, 1969...The label apparently provided the song to a few labels 8 or so weeks earlier, but the OFFICIAL release date was September 16th, 1969 </p><p>Here are some simple cites that you could have found on your own with Google using only the wording "Sweet Caroline", and "September 16"... The first two links are interviews with Diamond himself where he states the same. By the way, the Guardian article is from 2007 or 11 years ago: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2808898/I-needed-three-syllable-Singer-Neil-Diamond-reveals-Sweet-Caroline-love-song-wife-Marcia-not-rhyme.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2808898/I-needed-three-syllable-Singer-Neil-Diamond-reveals-Sweet-Caroline-love-song-wife-Marcia-not-rhyme.html</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/20/usa.musicnews">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/20/usa.musicnews</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://societyofrock.com/neil-diamond-serenades-the-crowd-with-sweet-caroline-live-2/">http://societyofrock.com/neil-diamond-serenades-the-crowd-with-sweet-caroline-live-2/</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://lyrics.elvispresley.com.au/sweet-caroline.html">https://lyrics.elvispresley.com.au/sweet-caroline.html</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://songlyricstoday.com/sweet-caroline-lyrics">http://songlyricstoday.com/sweet-caroline-lyrics</a> </p><p>I could just Google 25 more if you need them. I don't edit anything and this is my first edit, but it is correct. </p><p>Please revert it back to the correct date per my proof and links...I don't know how to add the cites on the page without ruining the text. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Weintzer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Weintzer (page does not exist)">Weintzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Weintzer#top" title="User talk:Weintzer">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Weintzer" title="Special:Contributions/Weintzer">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T05:45:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z"></span>Diamond's record company was Uni. Uni released the 45 rpm single in late May or June 1969. I have provided good sources for this on your talk page. It doesn't inspire confidence that you lead your charge here with a link to the unreliable <i>Daily Mail</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T05:45:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T05:45:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T05:45:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline"></span> I have given you multiple sources including quotes from DIAMOND HIMSELF on this and yet you have decided to police something based on your one obscure link, when I can send you dozens? </p><p>I am detecting that no matter what I show you may not be able to admit that you are wrong. You have also edited this article three times in one 24 hour period. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Weintzer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Weintzer (page does not exist)">Weintzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Weintzer" title="User talk:Weintzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z-Sweet_Caroline"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T14:57:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z"></span>The inescapable problem with your position is that the song went to its highest point in the charts a month before you say it was released. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T14:57:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T14:57:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-08T14:57:00.000Z-Weintzer-2018-01-08T05:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI.2C_January_2018"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXLI, January 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/January_2018/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/January 2018/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/January_2018/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/January 2018/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/January_2018/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/January 2018/Book reviews">Hawkeye7 looks at tropical medicine and Operation Market Garden</a></i></li> <li>Op-ed: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/January_2018/Op-ed" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/January 2018/Op-ed">Hawkeye7 on US Army doctrine in World War I</a></i></li> <li>Timeline: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/January_2018/World_War_I_timeline" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/January 2018/World War I timeline">This month in World War I</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Nick-D-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-2018-01-08T13:15:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLI,_January_2018"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Guadalcanal_Campaign" data-mw-thread-id="h-Guadalcanal_Campaign-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Guadalcanal_Campaign-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Guadalcanal_Campaign" class="mw-redirect" title="Guadalcanal Campaign">Guadalcanal Campaign</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Guadalcanal_Campaign-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kablammo-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z-Guadalcanal_Campaign"></span>Hello Bink. Some months ago Dweller made a list of featured articles to appear on the main page. Among them was <a href="/wiki/Guadalcanal_Campaign" class="mw-redirect" title="Guadalcanal Campaign">Guadalcanal Campaign</a>, and next month marks the 75th anniversary of the successful conclusion of that battle. I am going through it to fix and conform cites, renew accessdates, and do any other needed cleanup. As you are familiar with the article, any suggestions by you for its improvement would be welcome. Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:Kablammo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kablammo">Kablammo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kablammo" title="User talk:Kablammo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Kablammo-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z-Guadalcanal_Campaign" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kablammo-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z-Guadalcanal_Campaign"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kablammo-2018-01-10T02:23:00.000Z-Guadalcanal_Campaign"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Blanking_talk_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blanking_talk_pages-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blanking_talk_pages-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z"></span>Blanking talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blanking_talk_pages-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z-Blanking_talk_pages"></span>I have a question. If somebody blanks their talk page over and over to avoid responding to an issue, what do you do? I've tried to add my question over and over again but the user keeps blanking the page. I need to get this issue settled out, but the user is making it hard. I didn't know where to ask this question, so I am asking you since you are a "higher-up" user. Thanks. <i><a href="/wiki/User:SuperLuigi22" title="User:SuperLuigi22">SuperLuigi22</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SuperLuigi22" title="User talk:SuperLuigi22">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22" title="Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z-Blanking_talk_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 10 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z-Blanking_talk_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z-Blanking_talk_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z"></span>It looks like Piriczki doesn't want to talk to you, so if you want to get the issue settled, then take the matter to one of several places on Wikipedia for dispute resolution. At <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution</a>, the suggestion is to take the matter to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN">the dispute resolution noticeboard</a>, or if the dispute is just between the two of you, then you can go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion" title="Wikipedia:Third opinion">Wikipedia:Third opinion</a>. Other noticeboards are listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SEEKHELP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SEEKHELP">WP:SEEKHELP</a>.</dd> <dd>In my opinion, the version of the <a href="/wiki/Power_pop" title="Power pop">power pop</a> article that is preferred by Piriczki is the better choice. It's been cleaned up to a greater degree. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 10 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T21:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T22:23:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your input. I think <a href="/wiki/Power_pop" title="Power pop">power pop</a> should stay a <a href="/wiki/Pop_rock" title="Pop rock">pop rock</a> subgenre because there isn't a source that says it's plain rock, but there is a couple that says it's a form of pop rock. Plus, it has pop in the name. <i><a href="/wiki/User:SuperLuigi22" title="User:SuperLuigi22">SuperLuigi22</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SuperLuigi22" title="User talk:SuperLuigi22">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22" title="Special:Contributions/SuperLuigi22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T22:23:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T22:23:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SuperLuigi22-2018-01-10T22:23:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-10T22:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Possible_sock" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possible_sock-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possible_sock-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span>Possible sock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possible_sock-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z-Possible_sock"></span>Hey Binksternet. It seems <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Villagegreen347" title="Special:Contributions/Villagegreen347">Special:Contributions/Villagegreen347</a> a possibly sock of <a href="/wiki/User:Mrwallace05" title="User:Mrwallace05">Mrwallace05</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/819741387" title="Special:Diff/819741387">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/819371672" title="Special:Diff/819371672">2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/818626232" title="Special:Diff/818626232">3</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/819741071" title="Special:Diff/819741071">4</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.164.73.183" title="Special:Contributions/115.164.73.183">115.164.73.183</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:115.164.73.183" title="User talk:115.164.73.183">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z-Possible_sock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 13 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z-Possible_sock"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z-Possible_sock"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-13T10:00:00.000Z-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I've been keeping an eye on that. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-13T10:00:00.000Z-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 13 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-13T10:00:00.000Z-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-13T10:00:00.000Z-115.164.73.183-2018-01-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z"><span id="Maurice_Gibb.27s_alcoholism"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z"></span>Maurice Gibb's alcoholism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism"></span>These facts that I wrote about Maurice's alcoholism are true and he himself acknowledged all of this in his 1992 interview with <a href="/wiki/Lynn_Redgrave" title="Lynn Redgrave">Lynn Redgrave</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/61.69.217.3" title="Special:Contributions/61.69.217.3">61.69.217.3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:61.69.217.3" title="User talk:61.69.217.3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z-Maurice_Gibb's_alcoholism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IINFO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IINFO"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-14T07:15:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of facts.</a> We discriminate against too much detail because this is an encyclopedia, with general facts and figures. The article already talks about his alcoholism, so more detail is not needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-14T07:15:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-14T07:15:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-14T07:15:00.000Z-61.69.217.3-2018-01-14T07:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Who?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Who?-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z"><span id="Who.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Who?-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span>Who?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Who?-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:248:C000:0:0:0:0:0/37"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z-Who?"></span>Any idea?</a> You posted <a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:248:C400:CF0:29C1:6B45:DB3C:4898" title="User talk:2601:248:C400:CF0:29C1:6B45:DB3C:4898">here</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:NeilN" title="User:NeilN"><b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:NeilN" title="User talk:NeilN"><i style="color:blue">talk to me</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z-Who?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z-Who?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z-Who?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span>I have never seen this person use a registered username, if that's what you're asking. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z"></span>Okay, thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:NeilN" title="User:NeilN"><b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:NeilN" title="User talk:NeilN"><i style="color:blue">talk to me</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 15 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-01-15T06:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:NeilN" title="User:NeilN"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-27T19:46:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z"></span>NeilN</a>, she supplied her name in an angry comment <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2601:248:C400:CF0:8D0B:24B5:3F49:B922">here</a>, and off-site sources show that she's a schoolgirl. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-27T19:46:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 27 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-27T19:46:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-27T19:46:00.000Z-NeilN-2018-01-15T09:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fight_IRL?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fight_IRL?-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z"><span id="Fight_IRL.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fight_IRL?-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z"></span>Fight IRL?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fight_IRL?-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z-Fight_IRL?"></span>You have un-covered my plan to make the beach boys out to look to be the greatest band ever on wikipedia. So, if you were to agree, i'd like to fight you in real life. I'm not joking, 100 percent serious. If I win, you back off, if you win I leave wikipedia for ever, no more proxy IP's. I want a genuine reply to this comment, if you delete it, then you are a coward. Cheers and have a good day. - PapayaMan <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA" title="Special:Contributions/2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA">2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z-Fight_IRL?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z-Fight_IRL?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z-Fight_IRL?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-17T14:26:00.000Z-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z"></span>That's funny... Got a good grin out of me. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-17T14:26:00.000Z-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-17T14:26:00.000Z-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-17T14:26:00.000Z-2601:155:0:7CD0:78EF:D391:AE5:AFEA-2018-01-17T08:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z"><span id="I_need_the_recurring_characters_back.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z"></span>I need the recurring characters back!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-190.47.95.32-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!"></span>I want the recurring Doki characters back! If you bring it back, you will rule the 3 revision rule. If you don't bring it back, i might get you to start talking. Goodbye! <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/190.47.95.32" title="Special:Contributions/190.47.95.32">190.47.95.32</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:190.47.95.32#top" title="User talk:190.47.95.32">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-190.47.95.32-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</a></small> . In <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/820959683">this edit</a>, HOW DARE YOU DELETE THE RECURRING DOKI CHARACTERS! THESE CHARACTERS ARE IMPORTANT! THAT'S IT! YOU ARE GROUNDED GROUNDED GROUNDED GROUNDED GROUNDED FOREVER! Goodbye!<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-190.47.95.32-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-190.47.95.32-2018-01-17T17:06:00.000Z-I_need_the_recurring_characters_back!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Entry_on_June_Foray" data-mw-thread-id="h-Entry_on_June_Foray-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Entry_on_June_Foray-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Entry on June Foray<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Entry_on_June_Foray-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z-Entry_on_June_Foray"></span>I got your message; "Hello, I'm Binksternet. I noticed that you made a change to an article, June Foray, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 08:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)" </p><p>I am June's cousin and made the changes I did from the family tree I have developed from civil and family records. I should find it a favor if you could educate me in how to properly cite such sourcing. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:FitzStewart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:FitzStewart (page does not exist)">FitzStewart</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FitzStewart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:FitzStewart (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/FitzStewart" title="Special:Contributions/FitzStewart">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z-Entry_on_June_Foray" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z-Entry_on_June_Foray"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z-Entry_on_June_Foray"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-18T02:26:00.000Z-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Well, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:FitzStewart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:FitzStewart (page does not exist)">FitzStewart</a>, the main problem is that Wikipedia has a core policy of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">WP:No original research</a>, requiring facts that people put into the encyclopedia be previously published. If the family history has been published, you can cite that. Otherwise, the information, while true as far as you know, is original research. Authors of books, reporters at newspapers, scientists at universities – all of these are expected to perform original research. But for Wikipedia, the facts in the articles are supposed to be a summary of what can be found in published works. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-18T02:26:00.000Z-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 18 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-18T02:26:00.000Z-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-18T02:26:00.000Z-FitzStewart-2018-01-18T01:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Waylon_Jennings:" data-mw-thread-id="h-Waylon_Jennings:-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Waylon_Jennings:-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z"></span>Waylon Jennings:<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Waylon_Jennings:-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z-Waylon_Jennings:"></span>Why does it matter how many associates we add? He was associated with them! Other articles have more! <a href="/wiki/User:Matt_Campbell" title="User:Matt Campbell">Matt Campbell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matt_Campbell" title="User talk:Matt Campbell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z-Waylon_Jennings:" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:08, 22 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z-Waylon_Jennings:"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z-Waylon_Jennings:"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-22T06:40:00.000Z-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z"></span>"Other articles" may not be in compliance with the instructions at <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts" title="Template:Infobox musical artist">Template:Infobox musical artist#associated_acts</a> where it says that more than one song together is needed to list an artist in the infobox. If you point me to those other articles I will go there and trim the infobox of excess associated acts.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Matt_Campbell" title="User:Matt Campbell">Matt Campbell</a>, I'm not preventing you from telling the reader about song collaborations between two artists, using prose to describe the connection, with the goal of fleshing out the article body text. I'm just trying to limit the stuff that's seen in the infobox, to suit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INFOBOXPURPOSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INFOBOXPURPOSE">the purpose of the infobox</a>, which is to show the reader the main points of a biography. All of the smaller points go in the article body. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-22T06:40:00.000Z-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 22 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-22T06:40:00.000Z-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-22T06:40:00.000Z-Matt_Campbell-2018-01-22T04:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="110.238.52.150_is_return" data-mw-thread-id="h-110.238.52.150_is_return-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-110.238.52.150_is_return-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/110.238.52.150" title="Special:Contributions/110.238.52.150">110.238.52.150</a> is return<span data-mw-comment-end="h-110.238.52.150_is_return-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-123.136.107.52-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z-110.238.52.150_is_return"></span>The IP is return as an obviously <a href="/wiki/User:Littlemixfan!" title="User:Littlemixfan!">Littlemixfan!</a> sock. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/123.136.107.52" title="Special:Contributions/123.136.107.52">123.136.107.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:123.136.107.52" title="User talk:123.136.107.52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-123.136.107.52-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z-110.238.52.150_is_return" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 27 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-123.136.107.52-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z-110.238.52.150_is_return"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-123.136.107.52-2018-01-27T08:00:00.000Z-110.238.52.150_is_return"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z-Question"></span>Hi, I'm hoping you can help out with something here. I'm not really familiar with how to deal with sockpuppets, and I've seen you dealing with the very user I suspect, on their investigation page. Would you mind taking a look and seeing what, if anything, could/should be done here? </p> <ul><li>suspected sock: <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ErnstPatsze&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ErnstPatsze (page does not exist)">User:ErnstPatsze</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ErnstPatsze" title="User talk:ErnstPatsze">talk</a>)</li> <li>suspected master: <a href="/wiki/User:HarveyCarter" title="User:HarveyCarter">User:HarveyCarter</a></li> <li>page involved: <a href="/wiki/Talk:George_S._Patton" title="Talk:George S. Patton">Talk:George S. Patton</a> <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_S._Patton/Archive_4#February_2017">here</a> (with this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.159.6.131">UP user </a>) and</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_S._Patton#January_2018">here</a> (with "ErnstPatsze")</li></ul></li></ul> <p>Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><i><a href="/wiki/User:Thewolfchild" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Thewolfchild"><sup>the</sup><b><big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big></b><small>child</small></a></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z-Question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-29T02:49:00.000Z-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z"></span>Looks to me like you've done all the right things. The ErnstPatsze account you tagged will probably be abandoned now. If not, I'll report it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPI">WP:SPI</a> to get it blocked, or you can. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-29T02:49:00.000Z-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 29 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-29T02:49:00.000Z-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-29T02:49:00.000Z-Thewolfchild-2018-01-28T18:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Boy_band_vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Boy_band_vandal-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Boy_band_vandal-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z"></span>Boy band vandal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Boy_band_vandal-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z-Boy_band_vandal"></span>Hello, I'm an it.wiki user. Since the "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Boy_band_vandal" title="Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Boy band vandal">Boy band vandal</a>" is a cross-wiki vandal, may you do a <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/17694282/17694527" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:Diff/17694282/17694527">request for global block</a> whenever you identify it? Thanks, --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Horcrux92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Horcrux92 (page does not exist)">Horcrux92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horcrux92" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Horcrux92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z-Boy_band_vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z-Boy_band_vandal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z-Boy_band_vandal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-31T15:00:00.000Z-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z"></span>Okay, thanks for the note. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-01-31T15:00:00.000Z-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 31 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-01-31T15:00:00.000Z-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-01-31T15:00:00.000Z-Horcrux92-2018-01-31T08:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_Will_Rock_You" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_Will_Rock_You-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_Will_Rock_You-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z"></span>We Will Rock You<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_Will_Rock_You-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z-We_Will_Rock_You"></span>Hello, I recently had my edit replacing the phrase 'the song has become a staple at sporting events' to 'the song has become a cliche at sporting events' removed. I'm am willing to assert that use of the song HAS become a cliche, and moved beyond being a 'staple'. It's use at sporting events has become a) utterly predictable, and b) overused to the point where it no longer serves it's intended function, ie to fire up the crowd and get them clappin' and thigh slappin'. How does something become a cliche? By predictable overuse, and the use of We Will Rock You has certainly achieved this. I will not edit the article again - it will be a waste of everybody's time', but I don't see why the use of the more genteel 'staple' has more validity than the - thoroughly accurate - 'cliche'. And thank you for taking the time to explain why the edit was reverted back.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/203.220.212.117" title="Special:Contributions/203.220.212.117">203.220.212.117</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:203.220.212.117" title="User talk:203.220.212.117">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z-We_Will_Rock_You" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z-We_Will_Rock_You"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z-We_Will_Rock_You"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-02T15:56:00.000Z-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z"></span>First, your change was not supported by a citation to a source talking about the sporting event usage as being cliché. Second, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nicholasjennings.com/queen-we-will-rock-you">writings such as this</a> contradict your conclusion, though there are certainly other writers who agree.</dd> <dd>If the playing of the song was not enjoyed by the sports fans, then it would not be played so much by the production staff at games. Is it possible for something to be cliché and well-received at the same time? From the various writings about the song and its persistence in sports I would say it's not a foregone conclusion that the song played at sports games is cliché. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-02T15:56:00.000Z-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-02T15:56:00.000Z-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-02T15:56:00.000Z-203.220.212.117-2018-02-02T15:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z"><span id="Coldplay_.26_other_music_related_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span>Coldplay & other music related articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles"></span>I have noticed a regular editing patten within the Coldplay related articles by you and the Kent IP addresses. It is very good how you manage to spot the sock puppetry edits that these IP addresses have made. <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Iggy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iggy_the_Swan#top" title="User talk:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z-Coldplay_&_other_music_related_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-05T19:24:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the support, <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>. I track a bunch of problem editors in my own namespace. In this case the page is <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet/Kent_IPs" title="User:Binksternet/Kent IPs">User:Binksternet/Kent IPs</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-05T19:24:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 5 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-05T19:24:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-05T19:24:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version" data-mw-thread-id="h-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z"><span id="Evermore_.28Beauty_and_the_Beast_song.29.23Josh_Groban_version"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version" class="mw-redirect" title="Evermore (Beauty and the Beast song)">Evermore (Beauty and the Beast song)#Josh Groban version</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version"></span>I already explained Musicnotes.com is reliable for the music arrangement related details, not for genres. (See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_56#Musicnotes.com" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 56">Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_56#Musicnotes.com</a>) but a non-admin user reverted it back and asked "says who?"<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)&diff=prev&oldid=819551837">[7]</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.164.181.250" title="Special:Contributions/115.164.181.250">115.164.181.250</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.164.181.250&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.164.181.250 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z-Evermore_(Beauty_and_the_Beast_song)#Josh_Groban_version"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-07T20:30:00.000Z-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the note. I have reverted and tweaked the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-07T20:30:00.000Z-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-07T20:30:00.000Z-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-07T20:30:00.000Z-115.164.181.250-2018-02-07T11:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-B-bot-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg</a></b>. 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Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B-bot" title="User talk:B-bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-B-bot-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-B-bot-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-B-bot-2018-02-07T18:23:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Brinkley-KSHS.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_comment-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_comment-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_comment-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z-Request_for_comment"></span>Hey there. I've started a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Musicians#RfC:_What_number_of_line-up_changes_should_constitute_a_separate_"list_of_members"_subpage?" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians">request for comment</a> that you might be interested in – feel free to have your say when you get a chance. Thanks. <b style="font-family:Arial"><a href="/wiki/User:4TheWynne" title="User:4TheWynne"><span style="color:darkblue">4TheWynne</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:4TheWynne" title="User talk:4TheWynne"><span style="color:darkblue">(talk)</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/4TheWynne" title="Special:Contributions/4TheWynne"><span style="color:darkblue">(contribs)</span></a></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z-Request_for_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 8 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z-Request_for_comment"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z-Request_for_comment"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:31:00.000Z-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:31:00.000Z-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:31:00.000Z-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:31:00.000Z-4TheWynne-2018-02-08T03:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bon_Jovi_album_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bon_Jovi_album_articles-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bon_Jovi_album_articles-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z"></span>Bon Jovi album articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bon_Jovi_album_articles-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z-Bon_Jovi_album_articles"></span>So, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A00:23C5:11F5:E700:F13D:1202:A098:C930" title="Special:Contributions/2A00:23C5:11F5:E700:F13D:1202:A098:C930">this guy</a>.. Not sure if it's the Kent IP, but is there anything that we can do other than hit rollback every time? He's been making the same edits at the same articles for many months, always overlinking "Canada"; confusingly removing Jon's name from all instances of "Jon Bon Jovi"; and inserting a pointless "the" in <a href="/wiki/Little_Mountain_Sound_Studios" title="Little Mountain Sound Studios">Little Mountain Sound Studios</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Mac_Dreamstate" title="User:Mac Dreamstate">Mac Dreamstate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mac_Dreamstate" title="User talk:Mac Dreamstate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z-Bon_Jovi_album_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 8 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z-Bon_Jovi_album_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z-Bon_Jovi_album_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:32:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z"></span>That is certainly the Kent LTA at work. I think we need another rangeblock. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:32:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:32:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-08T17:32:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2018-02-08T17:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII.2C_February_2018"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue CXLII, February 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/February_2018/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2018/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/February_2018/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2018/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/February_2018/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2018/Book reviews">Nick-D on the Napoleonic Wars and Hawkeye7 on World War II</a></i></li> <li>Op-ed: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/February_2018/Op-ed" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2018/Op-ed">Hawkeye7 on generalship in 1918</a></i></li> <li>Timeline: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/February_2018/World_War_I_timeline" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2018/World War I timeline">This month in World War I</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Nick-D-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 11 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-2018-02-11T07:16:00.000Z-The_Bugle:_Issue_CXLII,_February_2018"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_comment_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_comment_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_comment_2"></span>Request for comment 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_comment_2"></span></h2></div> <p>Hey there. I've started a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Musicians" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians">request for comment</a> that you might be interested in – feel free to have your say when you get a chance. Thanks. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="86.144.111.198" data-mw-thread-id="h-86.144.111.198-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-86.144.111.198-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z"></span>86.144.111.198<span data-mw-comment-end="h-86.144.111.198-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z-86.144.111.198"></span>This is another Kent IP which has been evading a block from 86.164.191.216, I have noticed that from Coldplay related articles again. I have managed to spot them possibly because you haven't been logged in yet - and the IP geolocate helped me deduce they are from the same place. <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Iggy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iggy_the_Swan#top" title="User talk:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z-86.144.111.198" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 18 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z-86.144.111.198"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z-86.144.111.198"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-18T15:38:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the note. That's the guy! <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-18T15:38:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 18 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-18T15:38:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-18T15:38:00.000Z-Iggy_the_Swan-2018-02-18T10:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_Westlife" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Westlife-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Westlife-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z"></span>Re: Westlife<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Westlife-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span>Kindly just edit the copyrighted ones and not delete the whole thing. I put reference links to most of it. Thank you. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Myxxd" title="User:Myxxd">Myxxd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myxxd#top" title="User talk:Myxxd">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myxxd" title="Special:Contributions/Myxxd">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>The problems go deeper than that. How about the extensive, unreferenced list of collaborating artists? How about the huge image size you prefer? How about the puffery in the wording? <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 19 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narky_Blert-2018-02-19T19:38:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Myxxd" title="User:Myxxd">Myxxd</a>:</span> adding vast amounts of unsourced material, especially when they include large numbers of links to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DAB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DAB">WP:DAB</a> pages, is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DISRUPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DISRUPT">WP:DISRUPTive</a>. No editor will have the patience to go through a 30k edit trying to fix the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTDAB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTDAB">WP:INTDAB</a> errors it introduced. <a href="/wiki/User:Narky_Blert" title="User:Narky Blert">Narky Blert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narky_Blert" title="User talk:Narky Blert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Narky_Blert-2018-02-19T19:38:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narky_Blert-2018-02-19T19:38:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narky_Blert-2018-02-19T19:38:00.000Z-Binksternet-2018-02-19T05:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:42:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span>Kindly specifically point out the unsourced contents. I can see so many citations needed on the current Westlife page compared to the one I edited, I put out reference links, it just need to be polished. Thank you </p><p>About the <a href="/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_and_performed_by_Westlife" class="mw-redirect" title="List of songs recorded and performed by Westlife">List of songs recorded and performed by Westlife</a>, I aim for it to look like <a href="/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Steps" title="List of songs recorded by Steps">List of songs recorded by Steps</a> or <a href="/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_One_Direction" title="List of songs recorded by One Direction">List of songs recorded by One Direction</a>. About <a href="/wiki/Stay_With_Me_(Ironik_song)" class="mw-redirect" title="Stay With Me (Ironik song)">Stay With Me (Ironik song)</a> released in 2008, it sampled Westlife's song Written in the Stars published in 2002. About the <a href="/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_in_the_Philippines" title="List of best-selling albums in the Philippines">List of best-selling albums in the Philippines</a>, have you seen the table below, it has reference to it. </p> <dl><dd>You are using poor English, unreliable sources, and you are biased in favor of the band so much so that your writing is affected with puffery and promotion. I think you should practice in <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Myxxd/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Myxxd/sandbox (page does not exist)">your sandbox</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:42:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:42:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:42:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:50:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span>Then edit the poor English, as long as it has authentic sites as references I believe it should not be deleted. Biased? I am just stating facts with reference. I am not grossly hooked with Wikipedia to have sandbox, stars, awards and stuff. I am just here to add information with the reliable sources and then somebody could help to improve the articles. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Myxxd" title="User:Myxxd">Myxxd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myxxd#top" title="User talk:Myxxd">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myxxd" title="Special:Contributions/Myxxd">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>No, you are creating a problem, and I am here to stop the problem from developing further. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:50:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:50:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:50:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T18:12:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span>I went to your page and you're an American from California and are totally clueless with the band. Just collaborate with an Irish or British if you wish to check the reference links and verify its data reliability. Just remember Wikipedia's purpose, a free encyclopedia. </p> <dl><dd>Free, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDISCRIMINATE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDISCRIMINATE">not an indiscriminate collection of information</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T18:12:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T18:12:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T18:12:00.000Z-Re:_Westlife"></span></dd></dl> <p>If I am biased with the group, I will delete the critic's names, the news of them not breaking in to America, and will put information with no reference links. But did I do that? </p><p>Problem? Am I life-threatening to you? Yeah right talking about being indiscriminate. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reliable_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reliable_sources-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reliable_sources-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Reliable sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reliable_sources-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-03-05T21:48:00.000Z-Reliable_sources"></span>I need help with reliable sources and adding of citation needed for claims. Thank you. </p><p>The book about John Bonham by Chris Welch is a reliable source and specifically states that the cowbell is heard on "Good Times, Bad Times". It's not always included as part of a drum kit, but rather it can be an optional add-on, and as a drummer myself, I can tell you from experience. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249" title="Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249">60.240.8.249</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:60.240.8.249#top" title="User talk:60.240.8.249">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-60.240.8.249-2018-03-05T21:48:00.000Z-Reliable_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-03-05T21:48:00.000Z-Reliable_sources"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-60.240.8.249-2018-03-05T21:48:00.000Z-Reliable_sources"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249" title="Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z-Reliable_sources"></span>60.240.8.249</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:60.240.8.249" title="User talk:60.240.8.249">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z-Reliable_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 20 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z-Reliable_sources"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-20T20:19:00.000Z-Reliable_sources"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Everybody_Hurts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Everybody_Hurts-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Everybody_Hurts-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z"></span>Everybody Hurts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Everybody_Hurts-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts"></span>Have you seen the music videos? There are differences on editing and shots. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://vimeo.com/28130829">https://vimeo.com/28130829</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7350062/">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7350062/</a> </p><p>You know what I am just here to add information. Please just help. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Myxxd" title="User:Myxxd">Myxxd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myxxd#top" title="User talk:Myxxd">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myxxd" title="Special:Contributions/Myxxd">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>You misunderstand Wikipedia's purpose. It's not here for you to document the things you notice. It's here to summarize all the things that have been published about a topic. So if you want to expand the information in an article, you should be reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">WP:Reliable sources</a> and summarizing them. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T05:09:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:49:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts"></span>They were professional and official music videos uploaded in Youtube. I heard one was the Director's Cut. If it's a different music artist and more well-known, no one will delete it as long as it has the reference. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Myxxd" title="User:Myxxd">Myxxd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myxxd#top" title="User talk:Myxxd">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myxxd" title="Special:Contributions/Myxxd">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>A video is not a reference for your analysis of editing and shots. You need to find a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SECONDARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SECONDARY">WP:SECONDARY</a> source talking about the difference. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:49:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:49:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T17:49:00.000Z-Everybody_Hurts"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military" data-mw-thread-id="h-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z"></span>Prostitutes in South Korea for the U.S. military<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military"></span>chinese women : </p><p>Some of these workers face conditions indicative of forced labor. Foreign women on E6-2 entertainment visas—mostly from the Philippines, China, and Kyrgyzstan—are subjected to forced prostitution in entertainment establishments near ports and U.S. military bases. </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2015/243469.htm">https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2015/243469.htm</a> </p><p>one million : </p><p>How an average of less than 20,000 women are in the shape of a million people for decades? </p><p>The official statistics do not exist. Realistically, it is an insane figure. Shall be demonstrated from your basis for the claim is the author of the book. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dfdjveradf2234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dfdjveradf2234 (page does not exist)">Dfdjveradf2234</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dfdjveradf2234#top" title="User talk:Dfdjveradf2234">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dfdjveradf2234" title="Special:Contributions/Dfdjveradf2234">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T14:43:00.000Z-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z"></span>Professor Donna M. Hughes wrote in 2007: "Over the past six decades, U.S. troops have used an estimated 1 million Korean women in prostitution." It's cited in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T14:43:00.000Z-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T14:43:00.000Z-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T14:43:00.000Z-Dfdjveradf2234-2018-02-21T13:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T15:48:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military"></span>Donna M. Hughes : Some of the statistics are based on unsound assumptions. </p> <dl><dd>Wikipedia doesn't work like that. If Donna M. Hughes published a conclusion, then that conclusion is part of the topic. You cannot simply wish it away. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T15:48:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T15:48:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-21T15:48:00.000Z-Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> If so, shall be recorded that claims so unilaterally. There is a different opinion that we can not do with common sense </p><p>Some of these workers face conditions indicative of forced labor. Foreign women on E6-2 entertainment visas—mostly from the Philippines, China, and Kyrgyzstan—are subjected to forced prostitution in entertainment establishments near ports and U.S. military bases. </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2015/243469.htm">https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2015/243469.htm</a> </p><p>this part ok?? </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song"-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z"><span id="Clavinet_on_.22The_Logical_Song.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song"-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z"></span>Clavinet on "The Logical Song"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song"-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song""></span>I think you may have reverted my edit by mistake. There is in fact a clavinet on "The Logical Song" - I think you may have misread the text in the source - but the original part was retracked and this time, Rick Davies used a wah-wah pedal. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249" title="Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249">60.240.8.249</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:60.240.8.249" title="User talk:60.240.8.249">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-24T02:41:00.000Z-Clavinet_on_"The_Logical_Song""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Persistent_block_evader" data-mw-thread-id="h-Persistent_block_evader-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Persistent_block_evader-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z"></span>Persistent block evader<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Persistent_block_evader-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z-Persistent_block_evader"></span>Hi Binksternet. It looks like the warning you posted on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:186.155.113.87" title="User talk:186.155.113.87">that anonymous IP's talk page</a> hasn't been heeded. I've reverted some further edits which follow the same pattern of changing musical genres without explanation, but it looks like this might be worth keeping an eye on. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Dom_Kaos" title="User:Dom Kaos">~dom Kaos~</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dom_Kaos" title="User talk:Dom Kaos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z-Persistent_block_evader" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 24 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z-Persistent_block_evader"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z-Persistent_block_evader"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T01:32:00.000Z-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the note. I am definitely keeping an eye on this persistent block evader! You can see my case history page <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Binksternet/Colombia">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T01:32:00.000Z-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T01:32:00.000Z-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T01:32:00.000Z-Dom_Kaos-2018-02-24T22:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lead_guitar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lead_guitar-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lead_guitar-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z"></span>Lead guitar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lead_guitar-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Eddy_Grant" title="Eddy Grant"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z-Lead_guitar"></span>Eddy Grant</a> was indeed the lead guitarist for <a href="/wiki/The_Equals" title="The Equals">The Equals</a> while Patrick Lloyd was the rhythm guitarist, so lead guitarist is a defining characteristic of him. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249" title="Special:Contributions/60.240.8.249">60.240.8.249</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:60.240.8.249" title="User talk:60.240.8.249">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z-Lead_guitar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z-Lead_guitar"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z-Lead_guitar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T02:40:00.000Z-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z"></span>Please cite a source. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T02:40:00.000Z-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T02:40:00.000Z-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T02:40:00.000Z-60.240.8.249-2018-02-25T02:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-47.18.61.176-2018-02-27T03:45:00.000Z-Lead_guitar"></span>I was just trying to differentiate between the two guitars for both Avenged Sevenfold and Cannibal Corpse, Synyster Gates is definitely lead guitar for a7x, as for Cannibal Corpse, yes both guitarists occasionally do alternate, but Pat O'Brien plays lead a majority of time thanks.--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.18.61.176" title="Special:Contributions/47.18.61.176">47.18.61.176</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:47.18.61.176" title="User talk:47.18.61.176">talk</a>) 03:45, 27 February 2018 (UTC)Mike DeNicola--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.18.61.176" title="Special:Contributions/47.18.61.176">47.18.61.176</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:47.18.61.176" title="User talk:47.18.61.176">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-47.18.61.176-2018-02-27T03:45:00.000Z-Lead_guitar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 27 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-47.18.61.176-2018-02-27T03:45:00.000Z-Lead_guitar"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-47.18.61.176-2018-02-27T03:45:00.000Z-Lead_guitar"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Excuse_you?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Excuse_you?-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z"><span id="Excuse_you.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Excuse_you?-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span>Excuse you?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Excuse_you?-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z-Excuse_you?"></span>The comfort women page is not your personal playground, Dude. YOU reverted something that I did not add, but did judge to be properly cited, like it or not. <a href="/wiki/User:Jusenkyoguide" title="User:Jusenkyoguide">Jusenkyoguide</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jusenkyoguide" title="User talk:Jusenkyoguide">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z-Excuse_you?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z-Excuse_you?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z-Excuse_you?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T15:20:00.000Z-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span>There's a history of Japanese nationalist editors who add <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.exordio.com/1939-1945/codex/Documentos/report-49-USA-orig.html">a single primary document from the US Army</a> to the article in order to diminish the comfort women story. This one primary document is dismissed as unreliable by many historians. In any case, Wikipedia is built on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SECONDARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SECONDARY">WP:SECONDARY</a> sources, not primary ones. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T15:20:00.000Z-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T15:20:00.000Z-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-25T15:20:00.000Z-Jusenkyoguide-2018-02-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_contributions_to_the_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_contributions_to_the_articles-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_contributions_to_the_articles-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z"></span>My contributions to the articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_contributions_to_the_articles-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-139.20.171.32-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z-My_contributions_to_the_articles"></span>Thanks for telling me that. All I post is with citation so in most of my editings I post links to it. You can check it out. I'm not a vandalist. In the article <i><a href="/wiki/...But_Seriously" title="...But Seriously">...But Seriously</a></i> I posted the wiki-links <a href="/wiki/Brit_Award_for_British_Male_Solo_Artist#Winners_and_nominees" title="Brit Award for British Male Solo Artist">British Male Artist</a> and <a href="/wiki/Brit_Award_for_British_Single_of_the_Year#Winners_and_nominees" class="mw-redirect" title="Brit Award for British Single of the Year">British Single</a> instead of the unlinked words but it was rechanged who knows why. My changes were true and not vandalism.<small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/139.20.171.32" title="Special:Contributions/139.20.171.32">139.20.171.32</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:139.20.171.32#top" title="User talk:139.20.171.32">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-139.20.171.32-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z-My_contributions_to_the_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-139.20.171.32-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z-My_contributions_to_the_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-139.20.171.32-2018-02-28T03:31:00.000Z-My_contributions_to_the_articles"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revert_on_Rico_Love" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revert_on_Rico_Love-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revert_on_Rico_Love-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z"></span>Revert on Rico Love<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revert_on_Rico_Love-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z-Revert_on_Rico_Love"></span>On <a href="/wiki/Rico_Love" title="Rico Love">Rico Love</a> you reverted my disambiguation of <a href="/wiki/Danja" class="mw-disambig" title="Danja">Danja</a> to <a href="/wiki/Danja_(record_producer)" title="Danja (record producer)">Danja (record producer)</a> with an edit summary of "Rv... Block evasion by User:MusicLover650.". I do not understand this I am not and have never heard of User:MusicLover650.— <a href="/wiki/User:Rodw" title="User:Rodw">Rod</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rodw" title="User talk:Rodw">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z-Revert_on_Rico_Love" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z-Revert_on_Rico_Love"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z-Revert_on_Rico_Love"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-28T14:33:00.000Z-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z"></span>I reverted past your edit to remove the stuff added from the person before you. That person added Danja, which is why I removed not only Danja but also your disambiguation effort. As far as I can see, Danja and Rico Love don't have enough sigificant artistic interconnectivity. Danja produced the Rico Love songs "Days Go By" and "Bitches Be Like". Producers are not normally listed in the "associated acts" field. You can read about what goes in that parameter at <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts" title="Template:Infobox musical artist">Template:Infobox musical artist#associated_acts</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">Binksternet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#top" title="User talk:Binksternet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47#c-Binksternet-2018-02-28T14:33:00.000Z-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Binksternet-2018-02-28T14:33:00.000Z-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Binksternet-2018-02-28T14:33:00.000Z-Rodw-2018-02-28T07:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/40px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/60px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/80px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="text-align:center">This is an <b><a href="/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page" title="Help:Archiving a talk page">archive</a></b> of past discussions with <a href="/wiki/User:Binksternet" title="User:Binksternet">User:Binksternet</a>. <b>Do not edit the contents of this page.</b> If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet" title="User talk:Binksternet">current talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47&oldid=1038117225">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Binksternet/Archive47&oldid=1038117225</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 10 August 2021, at 16:37<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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