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class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'\u00e8_un_posto_giusto_per_te-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'\u00e8_un_posto_giusto_per_te&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partecipa ora a Wiki Loves Monuments: c'\u00e8 un posto giusto per te&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Partecipa ora a Wiki Loves Monuments: c'\u00e8 un posto giusto per te&quot;}--><h2 id="Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'è_un_posto_giusto_per_te" data-mw-thread-id="h-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c&#039;è_un_posto_giusto_per_te-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'\u00e8_un_posto_giusto_per_te-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'\u00e8_un_posto_giusto_per_te&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partecipa ora a Wiki Loves Monuments: c'\u00e8 un posto giusto per te&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Partecipa ora a Wiki Loves Monuments: c'\u00e8 un posto giusto per te&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'è_un_posto_giusto_per_te"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="https://wikilovesmonuments.wikimedia.it/concorso-fotografico-wlm/" rel="nofollow"><img resource="/wiki/File:WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg/220px-WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="284" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg/330px-WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg/440px-WLM_ITA_DEF_V.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="357" data-file-height="461"/></a><figcaption>Concorso Wiki Loves Monuments Italia 2018 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikilovesmonuments.wikimedia.it/landing-eng/">English version</a>)</figcaption></figure> <p>Gentile Andrew Dalby, ti scrivo per <b>ringraziarti del tuo contributo</b> alle voci sul territorio italiano, in particolare <b><a href="/wiki/Palermo" title="Palermo">Palermo</a></b>. </p><p>Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM), il più grande concorso fotografico del mondo, si svolge anche questo settembre per documentare e promuovere il patrimonio culturale italiano, con una licenza copyright libera. Quest'anno è doppiamente facile partecipare: gli oggetti fotografabili coprono quasi 1000 comuni in più, <b>compresi i luoghi di cui hai scritto</b> in Wikipedia in italiano. Hanno infatti aderito centinaia di nuovi enti fra cui Roma, e si possono fotografare circa 2000 alberi monumentali. </p><p>Controlla le liste di <b><a href="/wiki/Progetto:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018/Monumenti" title="Progetto:Wiki Loves Monuments 2018/Monumenti">monumenti fotografabili</a> e carica tutte le foto che vuoi entro il 30 settembre</b>. Potresti anche scoprire un monumento da visitare fra quelli che ancora non hanno una foto. </p><p>Grazie, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" class="extiw" title="m:User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'è_un_posto_giusto_per_te" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:16, 21 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z-Partecipa_ora_a_Wiki_Loves_Monuments:_c'è_un_posto_giusto_per_te"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-21T06:16:00.000Z","author":"Nemo 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id="Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te" data-mw-thread-id="h-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z"></span>Un grazie e un libro sulla conoscenza libera per te<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section&#039;s source code: Un grazie e un libro sulla conoscenza libera per te"><span>modifica wikitesto</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te","timestamp":"2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Un grazie e un libro sulla conoscenza libera per te&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Un grazie e un libro sulla conoscenza libera per te&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/" title="Wikimedia Italia"><img alt="Wikimedia Italia" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Wikimedia_Italia-logo.svg/220px-Wikimedia_Italia-logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="220" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Wikimedia_Italia-logo.svg/330px-Wikimedia_Italia-logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Wikimedia_Italia-logo.svg/440px-Wikimedia_Italia-logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1673" data-file-height="1674"/></a><figcaption>Wikimedia Italia</figcaption></figure> <p>Gentile Andrew Dalby, </p><p>oggi ti scrivo a nome dell'<a href="https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/" class="extiw" title="wmit:">associazione Wikimedia Italia</a> per ringraziarti del tempo che hai dedicato ai <a href="https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Siti_sostenuti" class="extiw" title="wmit:Siti sostenuti">progetti Wikimedia</a>. </p><p>Come piccolo omaggio avremmo piacere di spedirti una copia (tutta in carta riciclata) del libro di Carlo Piana, <a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/it:Open_source,_software_libero_e_altre_libert%C3%A0" class="extiw" title="s:it:Open source, software libero e altre libertà"><i>Open source, software libero e altre libertà</i></a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://framaforms.org/ricevi-una-copia-di-open-source-software-libero-e-altre-liberta-1582226211"><b>Fornisci un recapito per ricevere una copia del libro</b></a>. </p><p>Pochi giorni fa il mondo ha festeggiato la <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wikimedia.it/noi-amiamo-il-software-libero-e-tu/">giornata dell'amore per il software libero</a>, ma ogni giorno è buono per ricordare le <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_knowledge_based_on_Creative_Commons_licenses/it" class="extiw" title="m:Free knowledge based on Creative Commons licenses/it">garanzie delle licenze libere</a> e le centinaia di migliaia di persone che si sono unite per costruire questo bene comune della conoscenza. Speriamo che questo libro ti sia utile per apprezzare quanto hai fatto e per trasmettere la passione della conoscenza libera a una persona a te vicina. </p><p>Se desideri una copia ma non puoi fornirci un indirizzo a cui spedirla, <a href="https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Contatti" class="extiw" title="wmit:Contatti">contatta la segreteria Wikimedia Italia</a> e troviamo una soluzione insieme. </p><p>Grazie ancora e a presto, </p><p><a href="https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Utente:Laurentius" class="extiw" title="wmit:Utente:Laurentius">Lorenzo Losa</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Laurentius" title="Discussioni utente:Laurentius">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 24 feb 2020 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z","author":"Laurentius","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te","replies":[],"displayName":"Lorenzo Losa"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurentius-2020-02-24T10:25:00.000Z-Un_grazie_e_un_libro_sulla_conoscenza_libera_per_te"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Anaxicrates-20240910073300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico-20240910073300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico&quot;,&quot;c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia in greco classico&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia in greco classico&quot;}--><h2 id="Wikipedia_in_greco_classico" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico-20240910073300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico-20240910073300"></span>Wikipedia in greco classico<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico-20240910073300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section&#039;s source code: Wikipedia in greco classico"><span>modifica wikitesto</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Anaxicrates-20240910073300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico-20240910073300","replies":["c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico","c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100","timestamp":"20241129220400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Anaxicrates-20240910073300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico-20240910073300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico&quot;,&quot;c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia in greco classico&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia in greco classico&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"></span>Χαῖρε! Ho notato che sulla tua pagina scrivi di conoscere il greco antico, quindi mi chiedevo se considereresti di scrivere degli articoli per la <a href="https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc" class="extiw" title="incubator:Wp/grc">Wikipedia in greco antico nell'incubatore di Wikipedia</a>. </p><p>Inoltre, sto cercando nove aiutanti (per ora siamo in cinque) per tradurre <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Physical_map_of_Ancient_Greece-ru.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Physical map of Ancient Greece-ru.svg">questa mappa russa</a> dell'antica Grecia in greco classico (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pt0vx0jwq6hswy2bcojr7/Division-of-work.png?rlkey=wvhdqta8d02qr04362ppi6ruv&amp;st=ec6q79ln&amp;dl=0">circa 100-150 toponimi a testa</a>). Fortunatamente, si basa su una <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ancient_Greece_(Droysen).jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Ancient Greece (Droysen).jpg">vecchia mappa latina</a>. Saresti disposto a tradurre circa 150 toponimi dal latino al greco antico? Poi, io inserirei i toponimi greci nella mappa. </p><p>Sarebbe anche fantastico se potessi firmare e condividere <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.change.org/wiki-greca">questa petizione</a>, indirizzata al Comitato linguistico della Fondazione Wikimedia, cui suggeriamo di riconoscere la possibilità che lingue classiche come il greco antico (ed il latino) sviluppino i loro progetti. Il testo è disponibile in diverse lingue europee. Confido nel tuo supporto! Grazie mille! </p><p>Cordialmente, --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Anaxicrates" title="Discussioni utente:Anaxicrates">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 10 set 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240910073300","author":"Anaxicrates","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anaxicrates-20240910073300-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"></span>Hi <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a>]</b></small>. Thanks for writing. I'd prefer to continue the conversation in English if that's OK with you -- I read Italian, but rather slowly!</dd> <dd>It's a lovely map and it is a very good idea to translate it. I'm busy (always) but I will help if I can.</dd> <dd>For four reasons it would be a good idea to produce an SVG version in Latin, and then a version in Greek. Perhaps someone has already done the conversion to a Latin SVG? If not, I'll explain why it would be good: <ol><li>The non-SVG original by Droysen is in Latin. The existence of that model would make it easy to fill the right SVG boxes with the right Latin names</li> <li>The Latin SVG version could be re-used, with very little editing, as an English SVG version, since for all but a few major names (e.g. Thebes, Athens, Corinth, Aegean Sea) the Latin place names are standard in English too</li> <li>The Latin SVG version could be used exactly as it is on the Latin Vicipaedia (which I love)</li> <li>The Latin SVG version would be easy to convert to Ancient Greek: with few exceptions, the classical Latin names for ancient Greek places were transliterated in a fairly standard way from the original Greek. Also the forms could be checked in reference sources, which usually give both Latin and Greek</li></ol></dd></dl> <p>Yes, I could offer to help, along with others, with the creation of a Latin SVG version, and with the creation of an English SVG version based on the Latin (very quick and easy) and also with the ancient Greek SVG version. Tell me what you think of this method. <a href="/wiki/Utente:Andrew_Dalby" title="Utente:Andrew Dalby">Andrew Dalby</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 11 set 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911140800","author":"Andrew Dalby","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico","replies":["c-Anaxicrates-20240911152200-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800-Wikipedia_in_greco_classico"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anaxicrates-20240911152200-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800"></span>Hi <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="/wiki/Utente:Andrew_Dalby" title="Utente:Andrew Dalby">Andrew Dalby</a>]</b></small>! Of course we can continue in English! In fact, sorry if I didn't notice you could barely speak Italian. First of all, thanks for your help!</dd> <dd>While it would be nice to produce also a Latin version, every version requires a lot of work, and at the moment I prefer to focus on the Ancient Greek one. We could ask the help of the users of Vicipaedia in a second time. Consider that, as of now, no Greek-language map of Ancient Greece is available on Wikipedia. Prioritizing the Latin version isn't really necessary, as I'm going to explain. The help I need is very simple: you should <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Ancient_Greece_%28Droysen%29.jpg">look at the Droysen map</a> (you don't need to work with the Russian map). If that's okay for you, I'd like to assign you the area East of the 26° E meridian and North of the 39° N parallel: that is, the upper right corner of the map (Hellespont and Aeolis-Mysia). You only have to write a list of Latin-Ancient Greek correspondences: e.g., Mytilene = Μυτιλήνη, and so on. Please do it rectangle by rectangle, in geographical order of proximity, so that afterwards I can easily enter the names into the map. I don't speak Russian but I can easily read the Cyrillic alphabet, so I won't have problems to understand what is what.</dd> <dd>Here are some useful web resources:</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://topostext.org/the-places">https://topostext.org/the-places</a> (geographical lexicon, with Greek place names)</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://pleiades.stoa.org">https://pleiades.stoa.org</a> (geographical lexicon, with ancient sources)</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://logeion.uchicago.edu/">https://logeion.uchicago.edu/</a> (attested Greek words, including toponyms)</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3atext%3a1999.04.0064">https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3atext%3a1999.04.0064</a> (Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography)</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://books.google.com/">https://books.google.com/</a> (to check if a form exists)</dd> <dd>This morning I also managed to obtain <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/uviscamzdwnre82hq5utq/Karolid-s-Istorikos-atlas-1927-Vol.-I-carta-3A.jpg?rlkey=l3yujf3pdqz8dntbuqs09a2kn&amp;st=n55pq0zr&amp;dl=0">this old Greek map</a>: unfortunately, it's value is doubtful, since it's affected by many typos, demonstrating that it's not so easy to convert names from Latin to Greek, even for a Greek scholar: Iasus (Ἰασοῦς!?) is actually not like Myus (Μυοῦς), and accents need to be placed well (Μαντινεία!? Λεβέδος!?). Handle it with care! If you are unsure about a toponym (e.g., you don't find reliable attestation), let me know! Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Anaxicrates" title="Discussioni utente:Anaxicrates">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Anaxicrates-20240911152200-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 11 set 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anaxicrates-20240911152200-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911152200","author":"Anaxicrates","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Anaxicrates-20240911152200-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800","replies":["c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100-Anaxicrates-20240911152200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anaxicrates-20240911152200-Andrew_Dalby-20240911140800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100-Anaxicrates-20240911152200"></span>OK, <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a>]</b></small> that makes good sense. Thanks for that handy list of sources. I will do the section that you suggest, but I'm travelling now and it will be best for me to start when I get back home to my desktop computer. This will be about 23 September. Is that OK? <a href="/wiki/Utente:Andrew_Dalby" title="Utente:Andrew Dalby">Andrew Dalby</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100-Anaxicrates-20240911152200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 11 set 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100-Anaxicrates-20240911152200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911192100","author":"Andrew Dalby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100-Anaxicrates-20240911152200","replies":["c-Anaxicrates-20240912090600-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100","c-Anaxicrates-20241007184100-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100","c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100-Anaxicrates-20240911152200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anaxicrates-20240912090600-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"></span>Yes. Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Anaxicrates" title="Discussioni utente:Anaxicrates">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Anaxicrates-20240912090600-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 12 set 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anaxicrates-20240912090600-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240912090600","author":"Anaxicrates","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Anaxicrates-20240912090600-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anaxicrates-20240912090600-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anaxicrates-20241007184100-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"></span>Hi <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="/wiki/Utente:Andrew_Dalby" title="Utente:Andrew Dalby">Andrew Dalby</a>]</b></small>, how is it going? I have created a Telegram group for the map translation project. It helps us communicate more easily and exchange files without problems. If you want to join, you are welcome: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://t.me/+sZ1pp94wMdlkYWZk">https://t.me/+sZ1pp94wMdlkYWZk</a> --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Anaxicrates" title="Discussioni utente:Anaxicrates">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Anaxicrates-20241007184100-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 7 ott 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anaxicrates-20241007184100-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007184100","author":"Anaxicrates","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Anaxicrates-20241007184100-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anaxicrates-20241007184100-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"></span>Hi <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="/wiki/Utente:Andrew_Dalby" title="Utente:Andrew Dalby">Andrew Dalby</a>]</b></small></dd> <dd>I'd like to share with you this tutorial for searching obscure toponyms (I hope it can be of help):</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/u2d4ec9gdgb3xgsn77w6z/How-to-find-obscure-toponyms.avi?rlkey=9b4ffjqft0sle2805at6haboo&amp;st=wpzozbdm&amp;dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/u2d4ec9gdgb3xgsn77w6z/How-to-find-obscure-toponyms.avi?rlkey=9b4ffjqft0sle2805at6haboo&amp;st=wpzozbdm&amp;dl=0</a></dd> <dd>I've also prepared for you a collage of map scans (from the Barrington Atlas). It can be useful to find the original Greek toponyms, since it contains a Latin transliteration instead of a Latin translation (contrary to Droysen). Please use it only for the sake of this job (don’t circulate it!). How can I share it with you privately?</dd> <dd>I also send you the Directory of the toponyms contained in the Atlas (this can also be downloaded directly from the publisher's website):</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/i6ptmjsixnvoejo28vpwl/Talbert-Richard-J.-A.-Map-By-Map-Directory-to-Accompany-the-Barrington-Atlas-2-Volume-Set-Princeton-University-Press-2000.pdf?rlkey=h4ebvqpplihtctaj4k0oi1lss&amp;st=6vblu04y&amp;dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/i6ptmjsixnvoejo28vpwl/Talbert-Richard-J.-A.-Map-By-Map-Directory-to-Accompany-the-Barrington-Atlas-2-Volume-Set-Princeton-University-Press-2000.pdf?rlkey=h4ebvqpplihtctaj4k0oi1lss&amp;st=6vblu04y&amp;dl=0</a> --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Anaxicrates" title="Utente:Anaxicrates">Anaxicrates</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Anaxicrates" title="Discussioni utente:Anaxicrates">msg</a>) <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Andrew_Dalby#c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 29 nov 2024 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241129220400","author":"Anaxicrates","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anaxicrates-20241129220400-Andrew_Dalby-20240911192100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐74f675c4bb‐lsz8r Cached time: 20241129220458 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [user‐signature] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.013 seconds CPU time usage: 0.099 seconds Real time usage: 0.116 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 827/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 3578/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 145/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 9/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 10/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.014/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 923507/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 76.457 1 -total 55.60% 42.509 1 Progetto:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018/Luoghi_e_utenti 34.78% 26.594 5 Template:Ping 9.66% 7.386 5 Template:IP? 4.33% 3.314 1 Template:Soft_redirect 4.01% 3.066 1 Utente:Laurentius/SLAL-URL --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key itwiki:pcache:idhash:379690-0!canonical and timestamp 20241129220458 and revision id 142388299. 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