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padding: 0;"><div> <div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox mw-inputbox-form-inline" action="/wiki/Special:Search"><div class="cdx-text-input"><input class="mw-searchInput searchboxInput cdx-text-input__input" name="search" placeholder="" size="50" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="User talk:John of Reading/" name="prefix"/> <input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Search archives" class="cdx-button"/><input type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"/></form></div> </div></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removing_Template_Assistance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_Template_Assistance-20240524050300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_Template_Assistance-20240524050300"></span>Removing Template Assistance<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_Template_Assistance-20240524050300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Removing Template Assistance"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-144.86.34.230-20240524050300-Removing_Template_Assistance"></span>Hi, I'm not an experienced editor here, though I did contribute significantly lately to the <a href="/wiki/Zahran_tribe" title="Zahran tribe">Zahran tribe</a> page and would like you to review the authenticity of the template that reads "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/144.86.34.230" title="Special:Contributions/144.86.34.230">144.86.34.230</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:144.86.34.230&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:144.86.34.230 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-144.86.34.230-20240524050300-Removing_Template_Assistance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-144.86.34.230-20240524050300-Removing_Template_Assistance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-144.86.34.230-20240524050300-Removing_Template_Assistance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-144.86.34.230-20240524050400-144.86.34.230-20240524050300"></span>Also, happy birthday! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/144.86.34.230" title="Special:Contributions/144.86.34.230">144.86.34.230</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:144.86.34.230&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:144.86.34.230 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-144.86.34.230-20240524050400-144.86.34.230-20240524050300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-144.86.34.230-20240524050400-144.86.34.230-20240524050300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-144.86.34.230-20240524050400-144.86.34.230-20240524050300"></span> <dl><dd><span id="Zahran_tribe"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Zahran_tribe" title="Zahran tribe"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240526104800-144.86.34.230-20240524050400"></span>Zahran tribe</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Zahran_tribe" title="Special:EditPage/Zahran tribe">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:Zahran_tribe" title="Talk:Zahran tribe">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Zahran_tribe" title="Special:PageHistory/Zahran tribe">history</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a href="/wiki/Special:ProtectPage/Zahran_tribe" title="Special:ProtectPage/Zahran tribe">protect</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletePage/Zahran_tribe" title="Special:DeletePage/Zahran tribe">delete</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Zahran_tribe&limit=999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zahran_tribe&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Zahran+tribe">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=Zahran_tribe&project=en.wikipedia.org">views</a>)</span></dd> <dd>Thank you for the birthday wishes - that's a few weeks ago now.</dd> <dd>Let's see. The tag was <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/867648533" title="Special:Diff/867648533">added in 2018</a> by <a href="/wiki/User:Bradv" title="User:Bradv">Bradv</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bradv" title="User talk:Bradv">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bradv" title="Special:Contributions/Bradv">contribs</a>) when the article <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/867648533" title="Special:PermanentLink/867648533">looked like this</a>. Since then, yes, the article has <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/867648533/1225728256" title="Special:Diff/867648533/1225728256">changed substantially</a>, and many new sources have been added. I'm going to remove the tag. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240526104800-144.86.34.230-20240524050400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240526104800-144.86.34.230-20240524050400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240526104800-144.86.34.230-20240524050400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox-20240606163200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox-20240606163200"></span>Direct uses of Template:Infobox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox-20240606163200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Direct uses of Template:Infobox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox"></span>A decade(!) ago, you kindly created <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Direct_calls_to_Infobox" title="User:Pigsonthewing/Direct calls to Infobox">User:Pigsonthewing/Direct calls to Infobox</a>. Please could you repeat that exercise (feel free to overwrite the original). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200-Direct_uses_of_Template:Infobox"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240606164300-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_wait.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Pictogram_voting_wait.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_wait.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Pictogram_voting_wait.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_wait.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Pictogram_voting_wait.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_wait.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span><b> Doing...</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240606164300-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240606164300-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240606164300-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240606171700-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Pigsonthewing</a>:</span> <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> - pretty speedy now I have the uncompressed dump on an SSD drive. At the bottom of <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Direct_calls_to_Infobox" title="User:Pigsonthewing/Direct calls to Infobox">User:Pigsonthewing/Direct calls to Infobox</a> there's a short list of articles using redirects to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox" title="Template:Infobox">Infobox</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. There aren't many redirects, and they aren't used much, so I looked through them all manually. I fixed <a href="/wiki/Federal_College_of_Agriculture,_Akure" title="Federal College of Agriculture, Akure">Federal College of Agriculture, Akure</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240606171700-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240606171700-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240606171700-Pigsonthewing-20240606163200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000-John_of_Reading-20240606171700"></span>Very helpful. Thank you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000-John_of_Reading-20240606171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000-John_of_Reading-20240606171700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000-John_of_Reading-20240606171700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA-20241004143600-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000"></span>@ <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA" title="Special:Contributions/2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA">2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA-20241004143600-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA-20241004143600-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:EE0:4A69:AE90:5455:6C41:CE0F:70BA-20241004143600-Pigsonthewing-20240607165000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_policy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_policy-20240724194800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_policy-20240724194800"></span>Deletion policy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_policy-20240724194800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Deletion policy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800-Deletion_policy"></span>Hello, what is the deletion policy? <a href="/wiki/User:Gdfctjmm" title="User:Gdfctjmm">Gdfctjmm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gdfctjmm" title="User talk:Gdfctjmm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800-Deletion_policy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800-Deletion_policy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800-Deletion_policy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gdfctjmm" title="User:Gdfctjmm">Gdfctjmm</a>:</span> You can read about Wikipedia's deletion policy at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">Wikipedia:Deletion policy</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gdfctjmm-20240724194800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Always_precious" data-mw-thread-id="h-Always_precious-20240802093700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Always_precious-20240802093700"></span>Always precious<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Always_precious-20240802093700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Always precious"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700-Always_precious"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/110px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG" decoding="async" width="110" height="110" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/165px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/220px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="1000"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Ten years ago, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#John_of_Reading" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">you</a> were found precious. That's what you are, always. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700-Always_precious" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700-Always_precious"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700-Always_precious"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a>:</span> How the time flies! Thank you. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240803072500-Gerda_Arendt-20240802093700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_edits-20240827034600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_edits-20240827034600"></span>Wikipedia edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_edits-20240827034600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Wikipedia edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarianoMora23-20240827034600-Wikipedia_edits"></span>Good evening, I wanted to ask about a problem I'm having. In this account (MarianoMora23) I can move articles to the mainspace with no problem after barely making 10 edits. However in this SAME account (MarianoMora23) but in the SPANISH wikipedia I have more than 20 edits and still can't move from my sandbox to the mainspace. Any idea why? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MarianoMora23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MarianoMora23 (page does not exist)">MarianoMora23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarianoMora23" title="User talk:MarianoMora23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-MarianoMora23-20240827034600-Wikipedia_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarianoMora23-20240827034600-Wikipedia_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarianoMora23-20240827034600-Wikipedia_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240827064500-MarianoMora23-20240827034600"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MarianoMora23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MarianoMora23 (page does not exist)">MarianoMora23</a>:</span> Each version of Wikipedia sets its own rules. At <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayuda:C%C3%B3mo_cambiar_el_nombre_de_una_p%C3%A1gina" class="extiw" title="es:Ayuda:Cómo cambiar el nombre de una página">es:Ayuda:Cómo cambiar el nombre de una página</a>, it says you have to be autoconfirmed to move a page; at <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmados" class="extiw" title="es:Wikipedia:Autoconfirmados">es:Wikipedia:Autoconfirmados</a>, it says you have to make <i>50</i> edits to be autoconfirmed - as opposed to only 10 at the English-language Wikipedia. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240827064500-MarianoMora23-20240827034600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240827064500-MarianoMora23-20240827034600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240827064500-MarianoMora23-20240827034600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi_John!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi_John!-20240908162100"><span id="Hi_John.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi_John!-20240908162100"></span>Hi John!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi_John!-20240908162100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Hi John!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240908162100-Hi_John!"></span>You like typofixing? I got tens of thousands of typos and I can't fix em all alone. Perhaps we can combine our forces? <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typos" title="User:Polygnotus/typos">User:Polygnotus/typos</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240908162100-Hi_John!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240908162100-Hi_John!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240908162100-Hi_John!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908164700-Polygnotus-20240908162100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a>:</span> Interesting. I'm finding typos by running regular expressions on a database dump; how are you creating your work list? What's your false positive rate?</dd> <dd>I confess I'm so used to working with AWB and my 4000+ regular expressions that I'm unlikely to switch to a radically different method. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240908164700-Polygnotus-20240908162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908164700-Polygnotus-20240908162100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240908164700-Polygnotus-20240908162100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240908171400-John_of_Reading-20240908164700"></span>I take a list of the most frequently used words, create typos with a Levenshtein distance of 1, and check which occur in the dump. Then I do a bunch of filtering and I check which exist in the live version of Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>Which programming languages, if any, are you familiar with?</dd> <dd>We could use a custom AWB module in C# or perhaps just use some custom Selenium-based tool (which would be pretty damn similar, not radically different). Or perhaps a JWB-like interface on wiki. Haven't really decided how to approach that yet.</dd> <dd>I never really bothered to create stats of the amount of skips vs the amount of fixes but that is a good idea to have.</dd> <dd>I use a <b>lot</b> of regex to avoid typos that shouldn't be fixed, see <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typo.js" title="User:Polygnotus/typo.js">User:Polygnotus/typo.js</a>.</dd> <dd>I have at least 60.000 potential typos left to fix so it is probably worth it to create a decent tool for that.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240908171400-John_of_Reading-20240908164700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240908171400-John_of_Reading-20240908164700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240908171400-John_of_Reading-20240908164700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908180800-Polygnotus-20240908171400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a>:</span> Languages? Assembler, BCPL, C, C++ - all unused for a decade, I'm afraid. But I've used regular expressions on a copy of <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typos" title="User:Polygnotus/typos">User:Polygnotus/typos</a> to extract the 3000+ article names and the alleged typos, and have begun an AWB run to detect those words in those articles. So far I've saved 23 edits and have skipped 25 other articles - not a bad hit rate, by my standards, so I'll press on with this over the next few days. "Gettig" is a surname; "protectin" is a kind of protein; <a href="/wiki/Supremme_de_Luxe" title="Supremme de Luxe">Supremme de Luxe</a> is a stage name; and so on. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240908180800-Polygnotus-20240908171400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908180800-Polygnotus-20240908171400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240908180800-Polygnotus-20240908171400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240908181500-John_of_Reading-20240908180800"></span>Yeah that is <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typos" title="User:Polygnotus/typos">3489 typos</a> and then we got <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Polygnotus/typolist&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Polygnotus/typolist (page does not exist)">2800 here</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Polygnotus/typolist2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Polygnotus/typolist2 (page does not exist)">9300 there</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Polygnotus/typolist3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Polygnotus/typolist3 (page does not exist)">1200 here</a>. When my Raspberry Pi is done I will have another ~60.000. The typos already have very similar regex ran on them as you saw in typo.js so much of the WONTFIX stuff has been filtered out already. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240908181500-John_of_Reading-20240908180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240908181500-John_of_Reading-20240908180800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240908181500-John_of_Reading-20240908180800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240908184400-John_of_Reading-20240908180800"></span>In an ideal world, AWB would accept <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Polygnotus/typolist&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Polygnotus/typolist (page does not exist)">lists</a> in this format (<i>christmas|chirstmas|My Christmas</i>) as a list generator source. And AWB would contain code (very similar to <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typo.js" title="User:Polygnotus/typo.js">typo.js</a>) to not fix typos in certain situations. Do you know how we can get closer to that goal? <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB">WP:AWB</a> lists some developers in the infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240908184400-John_of_Reading-20240908180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240908184400-John_of_Reading-20240908180800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240908184400-John_of_Reading-20240908180800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908185000-Polygnotus-20240908184400"></span>AWB has two checkboxes at the top left of the "Find & Replace" configuration, which aim to cover the "certain situations". I run with those turned off, though, so that I <i>do</i> fix errors in quotations, references, foreign-language text and so on - with appropriate care and checking. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240908185000-Polygnotus-20240908184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908185000-Polygnotus-20240908184400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240908185000-Polygnotus-20240908184400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240908194000-John_of_Reading-20240908185000"></span>I boldy created the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:QUOTETYPO&action=history">WP:QUOTETYPO</a> shortcut at some point and it hasn't been reverted yet. It doesn't really make sense to faithfully reproduce simple mistakes made by others when they are irrelevant and only distract imo. Your approach does affect the hitrate tho. Are there others who I should contact? I assume the 16789 typos above will keep you busy for a while but you know where to find me when you want more. Perhaps I should stick the lists in a subpage of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TYPO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TYPO">WP:TYPO</a>? I'll dive in the AWB code, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240908194000-John_of_Reading-20240908185000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240908194000-John_of_Reading-20240908185000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240908194000-John_of_Reading-20240908185000"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Quotations" title="Wikipedia:Quotations"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908201400-Polygnotus-20240908194000"></span>Wikipedia:Quotations</a> is marked as an essay; the authoritative guide is at <a href="/wiki/MOS:QUOTE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:QUOTE">MOS:QUOTE</a>. Fortunately they say the same thing! I do fix typos in quotations if I think they are "insignificant" or are likely to have been copying errors. See <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading/Typo_fixing_with_AutoWikiBrowser#Editing_quotes,_book_titles_and_such_like" title="User:John of Reading/Typo fixing with AutoWikiBrowser">User:John of Reading/Typo fixing with AutoWikiBrowser#Editing quotes, book titles and such like</a>.</dd> <dd>If you post your links at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Typo_Team" title="Wikipedia talk:Typo Team">Wikipedia talk:Typo Team</a> you may attract more helpers. Oh, and are you aware of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Typo_Team/moss" title="Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss">Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss</a> project? That's another attempt at co-ordinated checking using data-crunching techniques. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240908201400-Polygnotus-20240908194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240908201400-Polygnotus-20240908194000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240908201400-Polygnotus-20240908194000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240909043000-John_of_Reading-20240908201400"></span>Thank you, redirect target improved. I combined typolist, typolist2 and typolist3 above (but not <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typos" title="User:Polygnotus/typos">User:Polygnotus/typos</a>, which you imported into AWB) into <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/Data/Typolist" title="User:Polygnotus/Data/Typolist">User:Polygnotus/Data/Typolist</a>. If you want some, please delete them from the list so that its clear that they've been handled.</dd> <dd>I added Moss and the (code behind the) AWB checkboxes to my todolist, thanks again! <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240909043000-John_of_Reading-20240908201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240909043000-John_of_Reading-20240908201400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240909043000-John_of_Reading-20240908201400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240909072600-Polygnotus-20240908162100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a>:</span> I've restarted the list after telling AWB not to sort the pages alphabetically, so I'm now processing them in the same order as they were listed in <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/typos" title="User:Polygnotus/typos">User:Polygnotus/typos</a>. This makes it easier for me, as the fixes for the same target word turn up together, and perhaps for you, since you can compare my contribution list with the list I'm working from.</dd> <dd>Two of your "don't fix" tests aren't working correctly:</dd></dl> <ul><li>In many cases the typo is embedded within a URL - example <code>mmiller</code> within <a href="/wiki/Merle_Miller" title="Merle Miller">Merle Miller</a></li> <li>In some cases the typo is embedded within a file name - example <code>distribuion</code> within <a href="/wiki/Lesser_blue-eared_starling" title="Lesser blue-eared starling">Lesser blue-eared starling</a>. I exclude those by peeking ahead for a known image suffix - <code>(?![ \.\,\;\-\'\"\+\&\%\w\d]*\.(?i:(?:gif|jpe?g|ogg|ogv|pdf|png|svg|tiff?|webm))\b)</code> - this regular expression isn't perfect, I know.</li></ul> <dl><dd>-- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240909072600-Polygnotus-20240908162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240909072600-Polygnotus-20240908162100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240909072600-Polygnotus-20240908162100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240910033300-John_of_Reading-20240909072600"></span>I make the lists with Java and then I use Javascript to actually make the edits. When I improved the url regex in Javascript I forgot to add it to the Java code as well. I had a bunch of ideas to improve my workflow so I am cooking up a fresh batch for you. Might take a while, even on a modern pc. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240910033300-John_of_Reading-20240909072600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240910033300-John_of_Reading-20240909072600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240910033300-John_of_Reading-20240909072600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240910034100-John_of_Reading-20240909072600"></span>Originally I used <code>((http|https)://)(www.)?[-a-z0-9@:%._\+~#?&//=]{2,256}\.[-a-z]{2,26}\b([-a-z0-9@:%._\+~#?&//=]*)</code>for URLs but a lot of them escaped the wrath of the regex.</dd> <dd>I am considering using something like:</dd> <dd><code>\b((?:https?://|www\.)(?:\S+(?::\S*)?@)?(?:(?:[0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3}|(?:(?:[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]-*)*[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]+)(?:\.(?:[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]-*)*[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]+)*(?:\.(?:[a-z\u00a1-\uffff]{2,})))(?::\d{2,5})?(?:[/?#]\S*)?\b)</code></dd> <dd>instead unless you have a better idea.</dd> <dd>For files I used:</dd> <dd>File:(.*?)(\\.|\\|)"</dd> <dd>Image:(.*?)\\.</dd> <dd>Category:(.*?)\\.</dd> <dd>and I haven't really decided how to improve on that. Not all of them have file extensions. Perhaps <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MediaStatistics">Commons Special:MediaStatistics</a> and the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MediaStatistics">local one</a> can be used?</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/Todoes" title="User:Polygnotus/Todoes">My todolist</a> is steadily growing. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240910034100-John_of_Reading-20240909072600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240910034100-John_of_Reading-20240909072600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240910034100-John_of_Reading-20240909072600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20240910070100-Polygnotus-20240910034100"></span>Are the URL regexes running with "ignore case" turned on? If not, the first URL regex fails to match the whole URL in the <a href="/wiki/Merle_Miller" title="Merle Miller">Merle Miller</a> example because parts of it are uppercase.</dd> <dd>The filename in the <a href="/wiki/Lesser_blue-eared_starling" title="Lesser blue-eared starling">Lesser blue-eared starling</a> has no <code>File:</code> prefix because it is being used as an infobox parameter. To exclude those, you'll either have to look backwards for <code>range_map =</code> or similar, or look forwards for <code>.png</code> or similar. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20240910070100-Polygnotus-20240910034100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20240910070100-Polygnotus-20240910034100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20240910070100-Polygnotus-20240910034100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240910074700-John_of_Reading-20240910070100"></span>I use <code>Pattern.CASE_INSENSITIVE</code> and <code>Pattern.UNICODE_CASE</code>. I have added range_map to the list of disallowed parameters. I am currently trying to figure out whether <a href="/w/index.php?title=Ollama&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Ollama (page does not exist)">Ollama</a> can help identify typos better than a coinflip. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20240910074700-John_of_Reading-20240910070100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240910074700-John_of_Reading-20240910070100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240910074700-John_of_Reading-20240910070100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20241112164900-Polygnotus-20240908162100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a>:</span> Thank you very much for preparing these lists; I've had an enjoyable couple of months working through them. If my record-keeping and arithmetic can be trusted, I've made about 4,500 corrections from your 11,700 candidates. I'd be happy to work on another list like this one, but not immediately: I feel I've neglected some of my other self-assigned tasks and would like to spend some time on those.</dd> <dd>I ran into one more problem further down the list: by the time the data was saved in <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus/Data/Typolist" title="User:Polygnotus/Data/Typolist">User:Polygnotus/Data/Typolist</a>, any special characters in page names had got corrupted. For example <a href="/w/index.php?title=2014%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9315_Presbyterian_Blue_Hose_men%27s_basketball_team&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2014â15 Presbyterian Blue Hose men's basketball team (page does not exist)">2014â15 Presbyterian Blue Hose men's basketball team</a> should have been an ndash, and <a href="/w/index.php?title=History_of_%C3%83%C2%85land&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="History of Ãland (page does not exist)">History of Ãland</a> should have been <a href="/wiki/History_of_%C3%85land" title="History of Åland">History of Åland</a>. I managed to guess the intended article names in most cases. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20241112164900-Polygnotus-20240908162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20241112164900-Polygnotus-20240908162100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20241112164900-Polygnotus-20240908162100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines_has_an_RfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines_has_an_RfC-20241016181400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines_has_an_RfC-20241016181400"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines</a> has an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">RfC</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines_has_an_RfC-20241016181400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines has an RfC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnomingstuff-20241016181400-Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines_has_an_RfC"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines</a></b> has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Talk_page_guidelines#Request_for_comment:_Do_the_guidelines_in_WP:TPO_also_apply_to_archived_talk_pages?" title="Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines">discussion page</a></b>. 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