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Sembla que els paràmetres que els diferents usuaris creuen que s'han de tenir en compte són:\u003C/p\u003E\n\u003Col data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[187,270,0,0]}\"\u003E\u003Cli data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[187,206,1,0]}\"\u003E Extensió del text\u003C/li\u003E\n\u003Cli data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[207,230,1,0]}\"\u003E Extensió de l'article\u003C/li\u003E\n\u003Cli data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[231,257,1,0]}\"\u003E Presència de referències\u003C/li\u003E\n\u003Cli data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[258,270,1,0]}\"\u003E Completesa\u003C/li\u003E\u003C/ol\u003E\n\u003Cp data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[271,800,0,0]}\"\u003EEn la meva humil opinió, hauria d'estar bàsicament relacionat amb 1, excepte en casos molt excepcionals, en què es podria tenir en compte 4 (ho comentava \u003Ca href=\"/wiki/Usuari:Pau_Colominas\" title=\"Usuari:Pau Colominas\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" about=\"#mwt1\" typeof=\"mw:Transclusion\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Usuari:Pau_Colominas\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Usuari:Pau Colominas\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[425,444,null,null],\u0026quot;pi\u0026quot;:[[{\u0026quot;k\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;spc\u0026quot;:[\u0026quot;\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;\u0026quot;]}]]}\" data-mw=\"{\u0026quot;parts\u0026quot;:[{\u0026quot;template\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;target\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;u\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Plantilla:U\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;params\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Pau Colominas\u0026quot;}},\u0026quot;i\u0026quot;:0}}]}\"\u003EPau Colominas\u003C/a\u003E \u003Ca rel=\"mw:ExtLink\" href=\"https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sx585k5jmjnozeoe\u0026amp;topic_showPostId=sy23gugmi5srinz2#flow-post-sy23gugmi5srinz2\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;targetOff\u0026quot;:572,\u0026quot;contentOffsets\u0026quot;:[572,576],\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[445,577,127,1]}\" class=\"external\"\u003Eaquí\u003C/a\u003E). En tot cas, també d'acord amb \u003Ca href=\"/wiki/Usuari:Bestiasonica\" title=\"Usuari:Bestiasonica\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" about=\"#mwt2\" typeof=\"mw:Transclusion\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Usuari:Bestiasonica\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Usuari:Bestiasonica\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[610,628,null,null],\u0026quot;pi\u0026quot;:[[{\u0026quot;k\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;spc\u0026quot;:[\u0026quot;\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;\u0026quot;]}]]}\" 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[n]" accesskey="n"><span>Discussió per aquest IP</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </header> </div> <div class="mw-page-container"> <div class="mw-page-container-inner"> <div class="vector-sitenotice-container"> <div id="siteNotice"></div> </div> <div class="vector-column-start"> <div class="vector-main-menu-container"> <div id="mw-navigation"> <nav id="mw-panel" class="vector-main-menu-landmark" aria-label="Lloc"> <div id="vector-main-menu-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> </div> </nav> </div> </div> </div> <div class="mw-content-container"> <main id="content" class="mw-body"> <header class="mw-body-header vector-page-titlebar"> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading">Viquipèdia Discussió:Esborrany</h1> <div id="p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown mw-portlet mw-portlet-lang mw-portlet-lang-icon-only" > <input type="checkbox" id="p-lang-btn-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox mw-interlanguage-selector-empty" aria-label="Aquest article només existeix en aquesta llengua. 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Per rebre l'atribució amb el vostre nom en lloc de l'adreça IP, podeu <a class="external text" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:UserLogin?returnto=Viquip%25C3%25A8dia_Discussi%25C3%25B3%3AEsborrany">registrar-vos</a> o <a class="external text" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:UserLogin/signup?returnto=Viquip%25C3%25A8dia_Discussi%25C3%25B3%3AEsborrany">crear un compte</a>.<span class="flow-ui-tooltip-triangle"></span> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="insert" > <div class="flow-anon-warning-desktop"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-left flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">No heu iniciat cap sessió. Per rebre l'atribució amb el vostre nom en lloc de l'adreça IP, podeu <a class="external text" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:UserLogin?returnto=Viquip%25C3%25A8dia_Discussi%25C3%25B3%3AEsborrany">registrar-vos</a> o <a class="external text" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:UserLogin/signup?returnto=Viquip%25C3%25A8dia_Discussi%25C3%25B3%3AEsborrany">crear un compte</a>.<span class="flow-ui-tooltip-triangle"></span> </div> </div> </script></div> <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topiclist_replyTo" value="sk865x624685pgfq" /> <input name="topiclist_topic" class="mw-ui-input mw-ui-input-large" required type="text" placeholder="Comenceu un nou tema" data-role="title" /> </form> </div> </div> <div class="flow-topics"> <div class="flow-topic flow-load-interactive" id="flow-topic-sy22r03f5v0bvig4" data-flow-id="sy22r03f5v0bvig4" data-flow-load-handler="topic" data-flow-toc-scroll-target=".flow-topic-titlebar" data-flow-topic-timestamp-updated="1624157937000" > <div class="flow-topic-titlebar"> <div class="flow-topic-titlebar-container"> <h2 class="flow-topic-title flow-load-interactive " data-flow-topic-title="Quan és un esborrany?" data-flow-load-handler="topicTitle" > Quan és un esborrany?</h2> <div class="flow-topic-meta"> 28 comentaris • <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1624157937" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">03:58, 20 juny 2021</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 3 anys</span> </span> </a> </div> <span class="flow-reply-count"><span class="flow-reply-count-number">28</span></span> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-container " > <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary"> <div class="flow-topic-summary-author"> Resum per Paucabot </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-content mw-parser-output"> <section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><link rel="mw:PageProp/Category" href="./Categoria:Converses_sobre_infraesborranys" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Categoria:Converses_sobre_infraesborranys"},"sa":{"href":"Categoria:Converses sobre infraesborranys"},"dsr":[0,45,null,null]}"/></section> </div> <div style="clear: both;"></div> </div> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show topic action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet flow-ui-edit-title-link" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=edit-title&topic_postId=sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_format=wikitext"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-edit"><span>Modifica el títol</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-clock"><span>Historial</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet flow-ui-summarize-topic-link" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Modifica el resum del tema</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga el tema</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-sy22r03f5yye3mec" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="sy22r03f5yye3mec" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,264,0,0]}">Vegeu <a href="/wiki/Tema:Swul5wa0fofzebkc" title="Tema:Swul5wa0fofzebkc" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Tema:Swul5wa0fofzebkc"},"sa":{"href":"Tema:Swul5wa0fofzebkc"},"dsr":[6,31,2,2]}">Tema:Swul5wa0fofzebkc</a> i <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sx585k5jmjnozeoe&topic_showPostId=sy1ycv9s9pvvgrtf#flow-post-sy1ycv9s9pvvgrtf" data-parsoid="{"targetOff":160,"contentOffsets":[160,160],"dsr":[34,161,126,1]}" class="external"></a>. <span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"pi":[[{"k":"1","spc":["","","",""]}]],"dsr":[163,181,null,null]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"Ping","href":"./Plantilla:Ping"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Kippelboy"}},"i":0}}]}">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Kippelboy" title="Usuari:Kippelboy" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1">Kippelboy</a><span about="#mwt1">:</span>. Vegeu l'historial d'aquesta pàgina a <a href="/wiki/Viquip%C3%A8dia_Discussi%C3%B3:Esborrany/Arxiu_1" title="Viquipèdia Discussió:Esborrany/Arxiu 1" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Viquipèdia_Discussió:Esborrany/Arxiu_1"},"sa":{"href":"Viquipèdia Discussió:Esborrany/Arxiu 1"},"dsr":[221,263,2,2]}">Viquipèdia Discussió:Esborrany/Arxiu 1</a>.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=sy22r03f5yye3mec#flow-post-sy22r03f5yye3mec" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1455013257" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:20, 9 feb 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=sy22r03f5yye3mec#flow-post-sy22r03f5yye3mec"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=sy22r03f5yye3mec&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-sy27wueasom82y32" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="sy27wueasom82y32" > <div class="flow-post-main flow-post-moderated"> <span class="flow-moderated-post-content"> <span class="plainlinks">2804:389:7028:4C1C:0:17:FC35:7301 ha amagat aquest apunt (<a class="external text" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history">historial</a>)</span> </span> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-sy2a9lettngh20ia" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="sy2a9lettngh20ia" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,186,0,0]}">Si no vaig errat, sembla haver-hi diferents opinions a l'hora de definir què és un esborrany. Sembla que els paràmetres que els diferents usuaris creuen que s'han de tenir en compte són:</p> <ol data-parsoid="{"dsr":[187,270,0,0]}"><li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[187,206,1,0]}"> Extensió del text</li> <li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[207,230,1,0]}"> Extensió de l'article</li> <li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[231,257,1,0]}"> Presència de referències</li> <li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[258,270,1,0]}"> Completesa</li></ol> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[271,800,0,0]}">En la meva humil opinió, hauria d'estar bàsicament relacionat amb 1, excepte en casos molt excepcionals, en què es podria tenir en compte 4 (ho comentava <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pau_Colominas" title="Usuari:Pau Colominas" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Pau_Colominas"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Pau Colominas"},"dsr":[425,444,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1","spc":["","","",""]}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"u","href":"./Plantilla:U"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Pau Colominas"}},"i":0}}]}">Pau Colominas</a> <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sx585k5jmjnozeoe&topic_showPostId=sy23gugmi5srinz2#flow-post-sy23gugmi5srinz2" data-parsoid="{"targetOff":572,"contentOffsets":[572,576],"dsr":[445,577,127,1]}" class="external">aquí</a>). En tot cas, també d'acord amb <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Bestiasonica" title="Usuari:Bestiasonica" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Bestiasonica"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Bestiasonica"},"dsr":[610,628,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1","spc":["","","",""]}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"u","href":"./Plantilla:U"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Bestiasonica"}},"i":0}}]}">Bestiasonica</a> que articles d'una línia inampliables serien casos en què no hi ha cobertura significativa i en els que la solució més raonable seria una fusió per manca d'admissibilitat.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=sy2a9lettngh20ia#flow-post-sy2a9lettngh20ia" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=sy2aa5s6e9loown0" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1455021372" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:36, 9 feb 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=sy2a9lettngh20ia#flow-post-sy2a9lettngh20ia"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=sy2a9lettngh20ia&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-sy3081up6vova99e" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="sy3081up6vova99e" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Bestiasonica" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Bestiasonica</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Bestiasonica" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Bestiasonica">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Bestiasonica" title="Contribucions/Bestiasonica">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,608,0,0]}">En general són alguns criteris que acostumo a tenir en compte a l'hora d'aplicar alguna plantilla d'esborrany. Però considero que el criteri 1 acostuma a estar sempre entre els requisits que m'autoimposo. Tanmateix marcar un límit precís en extensió de paraules pot resultar impostat. És clar que es pot marcar un límit arbitrari sobre el que hi estem més o menys d'acord. Però no en tots els casos pot resoldre temes d'esbiaixament. Es a dir la brevetat podria comportar que no es veiessin tots els punts clau per a identificar el subjecte.Aquí entren en joc altres plantilles con <a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Neutralitat" title="Plantilla:Neutralitat" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Plantilla:Neutralitat"},"sa":{"href":"plantilla:neutralitat"},"dsr":[582,607,2,2]}">plantilla:neutralitat</a>?</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[610,834,0,0]}">D'altra banda No sé si m'estic flipant una mica, però em sembla recordar que hi ha algun giny que afegeix automàticament la <a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Esborrany" title="Plantilla:Esborrany" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Plantilla:Esborrany"},"sa":{"href":"plantilla:esborrany"},"dsr":[734,757,2,2]}">plantilla:esborrany</a> quan s'edita un article per sota d'una determinada mida. A algú més li sona?</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[836,1243,0,0]}">Conceptualment per mi és un article breu en que només es tracta uns pocs aspectes. Ara restringir-ho a un sòl paràgraf em sembla marcar un llindar fàcilment esquivable afegint un salt de pàgina que no resol en absolut el la necessita d'engrandiment de l'article mostrant diversos aspectes que pot desenvolupar un article. O articles amb una breu secció introductòria seguida d'una inacabable llista de noms.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=sy3081up6vova99e#flow-post-sy3081up6vova99e" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=sy9kqhb09lb0qho9" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1455304135" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">20:08, 12 feb 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=sy3081up6vova99e#flow-post-sy3081up6vova99e"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=sy3081up6vova99e&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-sy9mg5ftaxonkslf" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="sy9mg5ftaxonkslf" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,234,0,0]}">No és fàcil delimitar-ho, però, es podrien fer uns mínims com <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[62,160,2,2]}">si un article té almanco 200 paraules de text, podeu llevar sense problemes l'avís d'esborrany</i>. Segurament amb menys es podria eliminar, però podríem començar per aquí.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=sy9mg5ftaxonkslf#flow-post-sy9mg5ftaxonkslf" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1455305981" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">20:39, 12 feb 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=sy9mg5ftaxonkslf#flow-post-sy9mg5ftaxonkslf"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=sy9mg5ftaxonkslf&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-syb62ih21pvifdvv" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="syb62ih21pvifdvv" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Bestiasonica" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Bestiasonica</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Bestiasonica" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Bestiasonica">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Bestiasonica" title="Contribucions/Bestiasonica">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,536,0,0]}">Trobo que és un bon començament, tanmateix coneixent que la gent s'aferra a aquestes afirmacions com si fos un clau ardent. Trobo bé poder deixar una frase més oberta (no tant taxativa) de l'estil "no existeix gaire controvèrsia a l'hora de considerar que un article assoleix les dues centes paraules en l'espai principal ja no es tracta d'un esborrany". En aquest cas també s'exclourien p.ex. els articles de tàxons que consten només d'una breu redacció inicial i una llista d'enllaços interns. O els articles redactats com una llista.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=syb62ih21pvifdvv#flow-post-syb62ih21pvifdvv" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1455365906" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:18, 13 feb 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=syb62ih21pvifdvv#flow-post-syb62ih21pvifdvv"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=syb62ih21pvifdvv&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-syb6dkre0uiidc5y" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="syb6dkre0uiidc5y" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,245,0,0]}">Malgrat que duia cometes, la frase no volia ser literal, volia ser el més il·lustrativa possible. D'acord que s'hauria d'expressar més políticament correcta. A veure que diuen els altres i si podem començar a elaborar el consens a partir d'aquí.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=syb6dkre0uiidc5y#flow-post-syb6dkre0uiidc5y" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1455366237" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:23, 13 feb 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=syb6dkre0uiidc5y#flow-post-syb6dkre0uiidc5y"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=syb6dkre0uiidc5y&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-szluszoy4t4dolrt" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="szluszoy4t4dolrt" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,239,0,0]}">A veure. Proposta: <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[19,239,2,2]}">Hi ha consens en que un article que té almanco 200 paraules de text ja no és un esborrany. Si és aquest el cas, es recomana eliminar l'avís per tal que la definició d'esborrany sigui el més útil i homogènia possible.</i></p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=szluszoy4t4dolrt#flow-post-szluszoy4t4dolrt" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457176702" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:18, 5 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=szluszoy4t4dolrt#flow-post-szluszoy4t4dolrt"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=szluszoy4t4dolrt&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-szme5b8dw0pajprw" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="szme5b8dw0pajprw" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Yuanga" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Yuanga</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Yuanga" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Yuanga">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Yuanga" title="Contribucions/Yuanga">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,59,0,0]}">Hi ha alguna manera ràpida de contar aquestes 200 paraules?</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=szme5b8dw0pajprw#flow-post-szme5b8dw0pajprw" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457197541" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:05, 5 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=szme5b8dw0pajprw#flow-post-szme5b8dw0pajprw"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=szme5b8dw0pajprw&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-szme8h1i9jjal1wj" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="szme8h1i9jjal1wj" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,25,0,0]}"><a rel="nofollow mw:ExtLink" href="https://wordcounter.net" data-parsoid="{"stx":"url","dsr":[0,23,0,0]}" class="external">https://wordcounter.net</a> ?</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=szme8h1i9jjal1wj#flow-post-szme8h1i9jjal1wj" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457197636" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:07, 5 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=szme8h1i9jjal1wj#flow-post-szme8h1i9jjal1wj"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=szme8h1i9jjal1wj&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-szmeaoq4htzc0lv8" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="szmeaoq4htzc0lv8" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,78,0,0]}">Segons aquesta eina, el quart comentari de <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Bestiasonica" title="Usuari:Bestiasonica" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Bestiasonica"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Bestiasonica"},"dsr":[43,61,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"u","href":"./Plantilla:U"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Bestiasonica"}},"i":0}}]}">Bestiasonica</a> té 201 paraules.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=szmeaoq4htzc0lv8#flow-post-szmeaoq4htzc0lv8" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457197702" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:08, 5 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=szmeaoq4htzc0lv8#flow-post-szmeaoq4htzc0lv8"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=szmeaoq4htzc0lv8&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Yuanga" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Yuanga</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Yuanga" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Yuanga">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Yuanga" title="Contribucions/Yuanga">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,45,0,0]}">Em referia a dins de la pròpia viquipèdia<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace mw:Placeholder" data-parsoid="{"src":" ","isDisplayHack":true,"dsr":[41,42,null,0]}"> </span>:D </p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[47,71,0,0]}">Per mi ok a la proposta.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi#flow-post-szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457211255" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">21:54, 5 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi#flow-post-szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=szmqvjcz9w1ir6oi&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-sznt33vryqz7d0wm" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="sznt33vryqz7d0wm" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,46,0,0]}">Crec que la Viquipèdia no té cap eina similar.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[48,231,0,0]}">En tot cas, propòs tirar endavant aquesta proposta de mínims per tal d'almanco eliminar l'avís dels articles més llargs. Si després, hem de baixar la xifra a 150 o a 100, ja ho farem.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=sznt33vryqz7d0wm#flow-post-sznt33vryqz7d0wm" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457252422" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">09:20, 6 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=sznt33vryqz7d0wm#flow-post-sznt33vryqz7d0wm"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=sznt33vryqz7d0wm&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-szqef6ymov01k74b" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="szqef6ymov01k74b" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Barcelona" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Barcelona</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Barcelona" class="" title="Usuària Discussió:Barcelona">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Barcelona" title="Contribucions/Barcelona">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,188,0,0]}">Em sembla bé eliminar l'avís dels articles més llargs per treure plantilles però crec que l'esborrany no es pot definir només per mida. De moment, tanmateix, traiem i ja seguirem discussió</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=szqef6ymov01k74b#flow-post-szqef6ymov01k74b" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457352980" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:16, 7 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=szqef6ymov01k74b#flow-post-szqef6ymov01k74b"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=szqef6ymov01k74b&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t03m26wm8jnx6jwc" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t03m26wm8jnx6jwc" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,29,0,0]}">De <a href="/wiki/Tema:T03kvi7vxpt4o2dq" title="Tema:T03kvi7vxpt4o2dq" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Tema:T03kvi7vxpt4o2dq"},"sa":{"href":"Tema:T03kvi7vxpt4o2dq"},"dsr":[3,28,2,2]}">Tema:T03kvi7vxpt4o2dq</a>:</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[31,313,0,0]}"><i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[31,313,2,2]}">Va aparèixer el tema "què és un esborrany?" Es va arribar a la conclusió que no es pot jutjar què és un esborrany amb un criteri de recompte de paraules -- si l'article és Terra i és de només 10k, seria un esborrany, però si un altre article no dóna per més, no és un esborrany.</i></p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t03m26wm8jnx6jwc#flow-post-t03m26wm8jnx6jwc" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457865425" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:37, 13 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t03m26wm8jnx6jwc#flow-post-t03m26wm8jnx6jwc"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t03m26wm8jnx6jwc&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t03mdssyrruu5d18" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t03mdssyrruu5d18" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,383,0,0]}">Respecte dels articles de 10k octets que es podrien qualificar com a <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[69,83,2,2]}">esborranys</i>, potser estaria bé posar-los un altre nom per diferenciar-los dels articles més curts. En realitat, ja els tenim classificats d'una altra manera: usam la plantilla <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[248,264,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Massacurt"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Massacurt" class="mw-redirect" title="Plantilla:Massacurt" rel="mw:WikiLink">Massacurt</a>}}</span> en lloc de <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[276,292,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Esborrany"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Esborrany" title="Plantilla:Esborrany" rel="mw:WikiLink">Esborrany</a>}}</span>. Podeu veure els que ja tenim a hores d'ara a <a href="/wiki/Categoria:Articles_b%C3%A0sics_per_millorar" title="Categoria:Articles bàsics per millorar" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Categoria:Articles_bàsics_per_millorar"},"sa":{"href":":Categoria:Articles bàsics per millorar"},"dsr":[339,382,2,2]}">Categoria:Articles bàsics per millorar</a>.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t03mdssyrruu5d18#flow-post-t03mdssyrruu5d18" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457865773" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:42, 13 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t03mdssyrruu5d18#flow-post-t03mdssyrruu5d18"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t03mdssyrruu5d18&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t044ib0r4i49decj" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t044ib0r4i49decj" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Barcelona" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Barcelona</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Barcelona" class="" title="Usuària Discussió:Barcelona">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Barcelona" title="Contribucions/Barcelona">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,37,0,0]}">El que es va parlar va ser el següent</p> <ul data-parsoid="{"dsr":[38,569,0,0]}"><li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[38,135,1,0]}"> esborrany és una crida a ampliar perquè la informació és incompleta i insuficient per al lector</li> <li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[136,377,1,0]}"> no té a veure només amb la mida, perquè hi ha articles molt curts dels quals no es pot saber res més i per tant no té sentit etiquetar-los (no convidarem a afegir contingut i avisar que un tema és curt és absurd perquè el lector ja ho veu)</li> <li data-parsoid="{"dsr":[378,569,1,0]}"> el que sí té consens és que no cal posar etiqueta als articles que ja tenen una certa mida i que per tant aporten informació introductòria suficient, tots són ampliables de manera potencial</li></ul></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t044ib0r4i49decj#flow-post-t044ib0r4i49decj" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457885301" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">17:08, 13 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t044ib0r4i49decj#flow-post-t044ib0r4i49decj"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t044ib0r4i49decj&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t045u2snh279rcro" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t045u2snh279rcro" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,424,0,0]}">La idea és racionalitzar l'ús de la plantilla <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[46,62,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"esborrany"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Esborrany" title="Plantilla:Esborrany" rel="mw:WikiLink">esborrany</a>}}</span>, ja que segons quina definició en facem, per exemple, <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[117,159,2,2]}">incompleta i insuficient per al lector</i>, es podria aplicar al 99% dels articles de la Viquipèdia. Per aquest motiu és pel qual crec que s'usa aquesta plantilla indiscriminadament i per omplir. Per tant, per això, proposava usar altres avisos com <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[366,382,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Massacurt"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Massacurt" class="mw-redirect" title="Plantilla:Massacurt" rel="mw:WikiLink">Massacurt</a>}}</span> per aplicar a les diferents casuístiques.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[426,718,0,0]}">Els articles aquests que són molt curts però que no es poden ampliar, potser és cert que no són esborranys. El problema potser sigui que les fonts fiables disponibles no en parlen de manera significativa i que segurament s'haurien de fusionar en articles més genèrics per contextualitzar-los.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t045u2snh279rcro#flow-post-t045u2snh279rcro" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457886730" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">17:32, 13 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t045u2snh279rcro#flow-post-t045u2snh279rcro"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t045u2snh279rcro&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t046i9ecjma5omxr" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t046i9ecjma5omxr" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,494,0,0]}">Diria que ens estem saltant un pas previ que és saber per a què volem saber què és un esborrany. Si la idea és que la plantilla d'esborrany sigui una crida a ampliar l'article, aleshores la qüestió d'on la posem és només el dubte d'on serà més efectiva. Ara bé, sabeu si mai s'ha donat el cas d'un editor que hagi ampliat un article motivat per la plantilla d'esborrany? Si no s'ha donat, o si no és dóna raonablement sovint, les discussions sobre on posem la plantilla són una pèrdua de temps.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t046i9ecjma5omxr#flow-post-t046i9ecjma5omxr" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457887454" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">17:44, 13 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t046i9ecjma5omxr#flow-post-t046i9ecjma5omxr"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t046i9ecjma5omxr&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t048erpy0nof4apu" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t048erpy0nof4apu" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pau_Colominas" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pau Colominas</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pau_Colominas" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pau Colominas">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pau_Colominas" title="Contribucions/Pau Colominas">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,288,0,0]}">Per mi l'objectiu de la plantilla esborrany ha de ser indicar aquells articles que no tenen prou contingut per formar el lector en el tema que tracten. Evidentment això és un criteri molt subjectiu, però crec que podria servir com a base per intentar extreure un criteri no només numèric.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[290,543,0,0]}">Pel que fa a si van dirigits a editors o a lectors, crec que són importants pel lector no per la informació que donen per si mateixos, sinó com a mostra d'humilitat. Són un "Disculpeu, som conscients que això no té prou qualitat i volem posar-hi remei".</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t048erpy0nof4apu#flow-post-t048erpy0nof4apu" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1457889504" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:18, 13 març 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t048erpy0nof4apu#flow-post-t048erpy0nof4apu"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t048erpy0nof4apu&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t8iirueg9ywv95gj" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t8iirueg9ywv95gj" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,134,0,0]}">Començ a ser bastant escèptic sobre aquesta plantilla i crec que començ a entendre en Pere quan demana per a què serveix la plantilla.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[136,417,0,0]}">Si efectivament la funció de la plantilla és <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[181,262,2,2]}">Disculpau, som conscients que això no té prou qualitat i volem posar-hi remei</i>, crec que valdria la pena fer una passa més i substituir-ho per <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[327,341,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Obsolet"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Obsolet" title="Plantilla:Obsolet" rel="mw:WikiLink">Obsolet</a>}}</span>, <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[343,359,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Incomplet"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Incomplet" title="Plantilla:Incomplet" rel="mw:WikiLink">Incomplet</a>}}</span>, <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt3" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[361,370,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"MF"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:MF" class="mw-redirect" title="Plantilla:MF" rel="mw:WikiLink">MF</a>}}</span> o la plantilla específica que més li escaigui.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t8iirueg9ywv95gj#flow-post-t8iirueg9ywv95gj" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1469613979" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:06, 27 jul 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t8iirueg9ywv95gj#flow-post-t8iirueg9ywv95gj"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t8iirueg9ywv95gj&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t8tj915n471n68bj" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t8tj915n471n68bj" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pau_Colominas" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pau Colominas</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pau_Colominas" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pau Colominas">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pau_Colominas" title="Contribucions/Pau Colominas">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,646,0,0]}">La pega de la <span typeof="mw:Nowiki" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[14,33,8,9]}">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Incomplet" title="Plantilla:Incomplet" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Plantilla:Incomplet"},"sa":{"href":"Plantilla:Incomplet"},"dsr":[33,66,22,2]}">Incomplet</a><span typeof="mw:Nowiki" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[66,85,8,9]}">}}</span> (que és la que aplica a la majoria d'articles marcats com a esborranys) és que no categoritza per temàtica (categorització que és útil per les quinzenes de qualitat o per editors que treballen millorant camps de coneixement específics). Dues opcions: buscar les interseccions entre les categories d'incomplet i (sub-)categories normals (amb el risc que molts articles incomplets estiguin pobrement categoritzats) o bé diversificar la plantilla <span typeof="mw:Nowiki" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[530,549,8,9]}">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Incomplet" title="Plantilla:Incomplet" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Plantilla:Incomplet"},"sa":{"href":"Plantilla:Incomplet"},"dsr":[549,582,22,2]}">Incomplet</a><span typeof="mw:Nowiki" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[582,601,8,9]}">}}</span> per temàtiques com fem amb les d'esborranys.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t8tj915n471n68bj#flow-post-t8tj915n471n68bj" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1470041137" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">09:45, 1 ago 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t8tj915n471n68bj#flow-post-t8tj915n471n68bj"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t8tj915n471n68bj&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t8tk5jng2bnbtt91" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t8tk5jng2bnbtt91" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,165,0,0]}">D'acord amb en Pau. Per a la subcategorització, jo miraria d'usar les interseccions, més que crear moltes subplantilles especialitzades. És més senzill de gestionar.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[167,389,0,0]}">Això sí, <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[176,192,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Incomplet"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Incomplet" title="Plantilla:Incomplet" rel="mw:WikiLink">Incomplet</a>}}</span> hauria de ser per a articles manifestament incomplets i no per a articles curts. Sinó, traslladam el problema de la plantilla <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[319,335,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Esborrany"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Esborrany" title="Plantilla:Esborrany" rel="mw:WikiLink">Esborrany</a>}}</span> a la plantilla <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt3" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[351,367,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Incomplet"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Incomplet" title="Plantilla:Incomplet" rel="mw:WikiLink">Incomplet</a>}}</span>. Només canvia el nom.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t8tk5jng2bnbtt91#flow-post-t8tk5jng2bnbtt91" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1470042110" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:01, 1 ago 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t8tk5jng2bnbtt91#flow-post-t8tk5jng2bnbtt91"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t8tk5jng2bnbtt91&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t8tk83zw7m4ziaku" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t8tk83zw7m4ziaku" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Barcelona" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Barcelona</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Barcelona" class="" title="Usuària Discussió:Barcelona">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Barcelona" title="Contribucions/Barcelona">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,274,0,0]}">Comparteixo que no s'ha de substituir una per una altra, incomplet vol dir inacabat, mancances òbvies, seccions... Esborrany per a mi no és article curt, com ja vaig dir al seu moment, ja que hi ha temes breus dels que no se sap res més i no caldria marcar amb cap plantilla</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t8tk83zw7m4ziaku#flow-post-t8tk83zw7m4ziaku" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1470042187" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:03, 1 ago 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t8tk83zw7m4ziaku#flow-post-t8tk83zw7m4ziaku"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t8tk83zw7m4ziaku&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t8tknfnzxsng3338" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t8tknfnzxsng3338" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,188,0,0]}"><i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,13,2,2]}">Incomplet</i> i <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[16,28,2,2]}">inacabat</i> no els usam com a sinònims. <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[57,73,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"Tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Incomplet"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Incomplet" title="Plantilla:Incomplet" rel="mw:WikiLink">Incomplet</a>}}</span> és per quan l'article presenta llacunes importants i <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"stx":"html","dsr":[127,142,null,null],"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Inacabat"}},"i":0}}]}"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Inacabat" class="mw-redirect" title="Plantilla:Inacabat" rel="mw:WikiLink">Inacabat</a>}}</span> l'empram quan s'està treballant en l'article.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[190,378,0,0]}">Respecte de la definició d'esborrany, el que és cert que no està clara. Cadascú l'interpreta de manera diferent i això fa que la plantilla (i les categories) no tenguin cap utilitat clara.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t8tknfnzxsng3338#flow-post-t8tknfnzxsng3338" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1470042646" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:10, 1 ago 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 8 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t8tknfnzxsng3338#flow-post-t8tknfnzxsng3338"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t8tknfnzxsng3338&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-t8tn5mbizdzlw4do" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="t8tn5mbizdzlw4do" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pau_Colominas" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pau Colominas</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pau_Colominas" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pau Colominas">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pau_Colominas" title="Contribucions/Pau Colominas">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,349,0,0]}">D'acord amb vosaltres. No parlo de substuir una per l'altra, només manifestava que una bona part dels articles marcats com esborranys són en realitat articles incomplets (però no tots!). Fer aquest filtratge i substituir les plantilles d'esborrany per d'altres més específiques és el que facilitarà identificar els problemes i solucionar-los.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=t8tn5mbizdzlw4do#flow-post-t8tn5mbizdzlw4do" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Editat per Paucabot </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=w4mkf2gsi6u1ae89" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1614984910" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">23:55, 5 març 2021</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 3 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=t8tn5mbizdzlw4do#flow-post-t8tn5mbizdzlw4do"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=t8tn5mbizdzlw4do&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-ti1h87l7ucue62w7" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="ti1h87l7ucue62w7" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Yuanga" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Yuanga</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Yuanga" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Yuanga">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Yuanga" title="Contribucions/Yuanga">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,186,0,0]}">Un dels grans blocs de la <a href="/wiki/Viquip%C3%A8dia:Gran_Quinzena_Anual_de_la_Qualitat/2016" title="Viquipèdia:Gran Quinzena Anual de la Qualitat/2016" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Viquipèdia:Gran_Quinzena_Anual_de_la_Qualitat/2016"},"sa":{"href":"Viquipèdia:Gran Quinzena Anual de la Qualitat/2016"},"dsr":[26,109,53,2]}">Gran Quinzena de la Qualitat</a> són els esborranys. Queda a criteri personal treure aquesta plantilla doncs?</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=ti1h87l7ucue62w7#flow-post-ti1h87l7ucue62w7" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1482915842" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:04, 28 des 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 7 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post 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<span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paucabot" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paucabot</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paucabot" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paucabot">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paucabot" title="Contribucions/Paucabot">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,16,0,0]}">Jo diria que sí.</p></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=reply&topic_postId=sy22r03f5v0bvig4#flow-post-sy22r03f5v0bvig4" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1482916050" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:07, 28 des 2016</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 7 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Sy22r03f5v0bvig4&topic_showPostId=ti1hf5t3mnxgjk2d#flow-post-ti1hf5t3mnxgjk2d"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" 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